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| jokke_ | Courtesy meeting reminder on #openstack-meeting-4: flwang1, jokke_, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, rosmaita, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishekk, dshakhray, kairat, alex_bash, smcginnis, arcolife, Brin, Roamer` | 14:01 |
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| jokke_ | #startmeeting glance | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 28 14:01:26 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jokke_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:01 | |
| jokke_ | #topic roll-call | 14:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:01 |
| abhishekk | ./ | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll-call (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:01 | |
| McClymontS | o/ but in and out | 14:01 |
| jokke_ | o/ | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 14:01 |
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| jokke_ | cool, we have almost full room :) | 14:02 |
| jokke_ | #topic updates | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "updates (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:02 | |
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| smcginnis | o/ | 14:03 |
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| jokke_ | 10mile high view of PTG schedule is out | 14:03 |
| jokke_ | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-June/131881.html | 14:03 |
| abhishekk | great | 14:04 |
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| jokke_ | That's all of non-release related updates I have atm. | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | i need to start reading the ML again | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | looks like foundation travel support closes tomorrow, if anyone needs it | 14:05 |
| jokke_ | oh, that | 14:05 |
| jokke_ | thanks rosmaita | 14:05 |
| McClymontS | Cost is high for the PTG in general | 14:05 |
| jokke_ | yup! | 14:06 |
| McClymontS | 599 is the base price right? | 14:06 |
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| jokke_ | $399 is the registration price atm. | 14:06 |
| McClymontS | Thought that was only early bird, not a bad deal | 14:07 |
| jokke_ | the $599 is after Aug 23rd/on-site | 14:07 |
| McClymontS | Ah okay my bad | 14:07 |
| abhishekk | early bird was $199 i guess | 14:07 |
| jokke_ | yeap | 14:07 |
| jokke_ | ok, lets move on | 14:08 |
| jokke_ | #topic release updates | 14:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release updates (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:08 | |
| smcginnis | PTG does include two Summit passes, so if you are going to go to Summits that does make the price a little nicer. | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | not much has changed since last week | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | one failure on glance periodic jobs, but just once and this morning | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | i will keep an eye on it over the next few days, info is on the agenda | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | client and store are both green | 14:09 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: ok, lets keep eye on it and dig deeper if it keeps failing | 14:09 |
| jokke_ | thnx | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | upcoming deadlines are on the agenda too | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | same as last week except one week closer | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | that's all from me | 14:10 |
| jokke_ | About the deadlines | 14:10 |
| jokke_ | lets try to aim releasing 0.25 glance_store at least week early | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | ok, makes sense | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | also that addresses the next item | 14:11 |
| jokke_ | so we have bit leverage _if_ for any reason the multi back-end stuff breaks the world | 14:11 |
| jokke_ | I don't see it happening but just in case | 14:11 |
| abhishekk | makes sense | 14:11 |
| jokke_ | which means we need to get those patches reviewed | 14:12 |
| * rosmaita hides | 14:12 | |
| jokke_ | I did my first round of reading them through instead of just eyeballing them yesterday | 14:12 |
| abhishekk | I have tried to keep it simple (atleast I think so :P) | 14:12 |
| jokke_ | they look pretty good fwiw | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | i did some eyeballing also, but need to buckle down and actually review | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | i agree with jokke_ , code looks good at first glance | 14:13 |
| jokke_ | which leads us to next topic | 14:13 |
| jokke_ | #topic glance_store version | 14:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "glance_store version (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:13 | |
| jokke_ | I guess I answered the question already ;) | 14:14 |
| abhishekk | yeah | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | yeah, so we have some flexibility with version numbering on the store | 14:14 |
| jokke_ | So the release containing the multi store stuff will be .25 | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | basically, we can do whatever we want | 14:14 |
| abhishekk | and I kept it 0.25 in the doc so no need to change | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | ok, i will update launchpad | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | it makes sense to me | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | unless smcginnis sees a problem? | 14:14 |
| jokke_ | I think once we get to removing the old configs, will be when we push that to 1.0.0 due to backwards incompatibility | 14:15 |
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| smcginnis | rosmaita: I'll double check, but sounds reasonable. | 14:15 |
| jokke_ | Unless we _want_ to release the multi back-end stuff stable in Stein as 1.0 | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | we can decide that in Stein | 14:16 |
| smcginnis | We have some flexibility until we get to a 1.0 release, but I do think it's a good idea to get there soon. | 14:16 |
| jokke_ | but the changes are definitely big enough that 0.24.1 is not an option | 14:16 |
| smcginnis | ++ | 14:17 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk: you had something under this topic as well | 14:18 |
| abhishekk | ok, I have send a mail to driver maintainers to make them aware about our work | 14:18 |
| abhishekk | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-June/131877.html | 14:18 |
| abhishekk | I asked for help in testing cinder, vmware and sheepdog drivers or way to configure them using devstack so that I can do that testing | 14:18 |
| abhishekk | I am 99% sure that it will not break though | 14:19 |
| smcginnis | Cinder and sheepdog are probably reasonable for us to test, but we would probably need VMware to set up third party CI to get coverage there. | 14:19 |
| abhishekk | smcginnis, yes | 14:20 |
| abhishekk | that's it for this topic | 14:20 |
| jokke_ | So the VMWare driver maintainer has changed (need to update the wiki once I get into contact with the new person) I'll forward your mail directly to the new maintainer as well | 14:21 |
| abhishekk | jokke_, thanks | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | abhishekk: nice job on that email | 14:22 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, you only suggested that | 14:22 |
| jokke_ | ok | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | yes, but nice implementation! | 14:22 |
| jokke_ | indeed | 14:23 |
| abhishekk | thank you :d | 14:23 |
| jokke_ | #topic open discussion | 14:23 |
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| rosmaita | sorry, back to sean's point | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | i think VMware already has 3rd party cli on glance | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | or is it on glance_store | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | it's on something | 14:23 |
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| rosmaita | so maybe won't be too hard for them to config multistore test | 14:24 |
| abhishekk | ok | 14:24 |
| jokke_ | I think it's glance as we really did not have any functional tests in glance_store when that was built | 14:24 |
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| rosmaita | you are correct, it's on glance | 14:25 |
| jokke_ | which is one of the reasons I'd like to get the release out bit ahead of time as I'm not sure if they use release of glance_store or tip of the repo | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | it's showing failure on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/574582/, btw | 14:26 |
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| jokke_ | it's been on/off broken for a while ... I need to figure out if the new driver maintainer is also looking after that or if I need to find someone else stabilizing it | 14:27 |
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| jokke_ | I hope/assume they have someone maintaining it as it does get fixed when there is unrelated breakages | 14:28 |
| abhishekk | me too | 14:28 |
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| abhishekk | I have couple of questions related to hide old images | 14:28 |
| jokke_ | shoot | 14:28 |
| abhishekk | 1. In specs it is mentioned that for queens update call with hidden attribute will rejected with 400 Bad request, but as per current code it is returning 409 conflict saying "Property 'hidden' does not exist", so do I change it to return 400? | 14:29 |
| abhishekk | https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/api/v2/images.py#L245 | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | no, let's change the spec to reflect reality | 14:29 |
| abhishekk | ok | 14:29 |
| jokke_ | what rosmaita just said | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | though 409 seems weird for that | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | but, too late | 14:30 |
| jokke_ | indeed | 14:30 |
| abhishekk | ok | 14:30 |
| abhishekk | 2. if hidden=true is passed to GET v2/images call then it should return only hidden images or it should return all images (hidden + other)? | 14:30 |
| jokke_ | well it's kind of justifiable as it's filtering | 14:30 |
| McClymontS | I don't mind a 409 there | 14:30 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk: only hidden | 14:30 |
| abhishekk | great, | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | no objection from me | 14:31 |
| jokke_ | it's filtering option (I don't think we allow wild card filtering) | 14:31 |
| abhishekk | 3. For show image call if it is hidden then is it required to show hidden=True in the output (this is not considered in the specs, and also I don't think it makes sense to show it) | 14:31 |
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| rosmaita | i think we do want to show it | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | otherwise, how do you know it's hidden? | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | I mean we do not allow hidden=[*|any|all] type of filtering at which point it would be reasonable to return all images | 14:32 |
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| rosmaita | i mean, if someone does an update image call setting hidden=true, the response should show that | 14:33 |
| jokke_ | 3. yes | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | so i think hidden=true on regular image-show is correct | 14:33 |
| abhishekk | yes response shows it | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | ok, maybe i misunderstood your question | 14:33 |
| jokke_ | in general we do not hide image properties from the user without good reason and I don't see good reason for hiding this | 14:34 |
| abhishekk | but image show does not show it as of now so I need to make that change | 14:34 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk: ok, is it server not returning it or client not showing it? | 14:35 |
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| rosmaita | someone went through at some point and revised the schema so that "empty" core image properties have null JSON value if they are empty | 14:35 |
| jokke_ | and was that something you did on implementation or why does that happen? | 14:35 |
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| abhishekk | jokke_, server is returning this but client is not showing it | 14:36 |
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| jokke_ | rosmaita: no, that is fine. If it's not set we can omit it. If it's set 'though we definitely should show it | 14:36 |
| rosmaita | agreed | 14:36 |
| abhishekk | ok, got it I will modify my patch accordingly | 14:37 |
| jokke_ | I'm gonna be completely hones with this. I'm not gonna spend time reviewing this feature before the multi back-end and v1 removals are in | 14:38 |
| abhishekk | Also we need to document this right, means I also need to change docs and api-ref | 14:38 |
| abhishekk | jokke_, makes sense (I will just keep it ready in spare time) | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | ohhh ... regarding documentation. I think we need to be clear about the Experimental status of multi back-end in the docs | 14:39 |
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| abhishekk | yeah, I have added a note in the docs mentioning the same | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | good point, i missed that | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | also I did not check if the doc patch was depending the implementation, but lets not merge it before the feature lands | 14:40 |
| abhishekk | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576075/6/doc/source/admin/multistores.rst@19 | 14:40 |
| abhishekk | jokke_, its depending on the implementation | 14:40 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk: indeed, thanks | 14:40 |
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| rosmaita | i don't think the api-ref mentions experimental? | 14:41 |
| abhishekk | :D | 14:41 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, no | 14:41 |
| jokke_ | that likely was where I was missing it | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | we can dig up the old import patch and see how we did it for pike | 14:41 |
| abhishekk | do we need to add it there as well, if yes please point out the exact position | 14:41 |
| jokke_ | also we need to do the experimental dance on the glance/api/versions.py on the glance patch of that feature which is not there | 14:41 |
| abhishekk | for pike we have added it in the docs only I guess not in the api-ref | 14:42 |
| jokke_ | the api ref should pick it up from the versions.py, right? | 14:43 |
| jokke_ | or do we need to do it manually? | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | no, has to be done manually | 14:43 |
| jokke_ | ok, then we have next problem | 14:43 |
| abhishekk | what is it? | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | we did mention experimental in pike api-ref | 14:44 |
| jokke_ | if we flag 2.7 EXPERIMENTAL and it's returned only if the multi back-end configs are used, what do we do about the hidden images if it lands in Rocky? | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/glance/commit/?id=8005ee994cbbfb25575d13cd2d243e510c5e33d1 | 14:44 |
| jokke_ | that is API change that needs version bump | 14:45 |
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| rosmaita | may have to land multistore last | 14:45 |
| abhishekk | can we mark that experimental as well? | 14:45 |
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| abhishekk | rosmaita, thank you for the link, I will modify the api-ref based on it | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | may have to do hidden + multihash = 2.7, multiple-backends = 2.8 EXP | 14:47 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: that's what I was thinking as well, we might need to land the glance part of multi store at the very end and provide 2.7 stable 2.8 experimental in Rocky | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | kind of sucks, but i don't see what else to do | 14:47 |
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| jokke_ | in that note, Please do not merge the glance patch yet then | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | ok | 14:48 |
| jokke_ | also please make sure we're ok with the state of the spec | 14:48 |
| abhishekk | it will not get merge unless glance_store patches get merged | 14:48 |
| abhishekk | it has a dependency | 14:48 |
| jokke_ | we should merge the spec amendment once we're in agreement of the implementation | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | we need to merge the store patches soon, though | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | but that's ok, we can have support in store and not use it yet | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | (in glance) | 14:49 |
| jokke_ | yeah, we need to merge the store patches way earlier to be able to release the glance_store in 4 weeks or so | 14:49 |
| abhishekk | jokke_, its better if we manage to release it before that | 14:49 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk: Oh I totally agree ... I would not like to see those patches hanging on review for next month you rebasing them | 14:50 |
| abhishekk | I guess most of the people will be on leave in next week (mostly who stays in US) | 14:50 |
| abhishekk | :D | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | i'll just be taking one day | 14:50 |
| jokke_ | I know how painful it is | 14:50 |
| abhishekk | actually, I have decided that I will never create a chain of dependent patches :D | 14:51 |
| smcginnis | :) | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | it is a world of pain | 14:51 |
| abhishekk | (but if patch is to large then its actually gets difficult to review it in a one go) | 14:52 |
| abhishekk | s/to/too | 14:52 |
| abhishekk | So in document should I mention api version 2.8? | 14:52 |
| abhishekk | we have only 8 minutes remaining | 14:53 |
| jokke_ | Not yet | 14:53 |
| abhishekk | ok | 14:53 |
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| jokke_ | we get there once we see what is landing this cycle and if we need it | 14:53 |
| abhishekk | ack | 14:54 |
| jokke_ | ok, anything else? | 14:54 |
| abhishekk | jokke_, I will shortly make store_description related change and upload new patches (may be after an hour) | 14:54 |
| abhishekk | nothing | 14:54 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk: amazing, I don't mind if it's tomorrow, I know it's getting late for you | 14:55 |
| abhishekk | jokke_, ok will try if possible otherwise will push it tomorrow | 14:55 |
| jokke_ | ok, clets close up. there is always #openstack-glance if something pops up | 14:56 |
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| jokke_ | Thanks all! | 14:56 |
| abhishekk | thank you all, have a nice time ahead | 14:56 |
| jokke_ | -c | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | bye! | 14:56 |
| jokke_ | #endmeeting | 14:56 |
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