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openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 5 17:00:19 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_notification' | 17:00 |
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mriedem | o/ | 17:00 |
gibi | hi | 17:00 |
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gibi | I have one think to discuss today | 17:01 |
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gibi | the complex server group policy code change tries to rename and retype the policies attribute of the server group https://review.openstack.org/#/c/563401/9/nova/notifications/objects/server_group.py | 17:01 |
gibi | in the notification object | 17:01 |
gibi | either we do a major version bump on the notifiation and delete the old policies field | 17:02 |
gibi | or do a minor bump and keep both the old policies field and add the new policy field | 17:02 |
mriedem | i wasn't expecting a major version bump - was more expecting along the lines of what he's doing in the InstanceGroup object https://review.openstack.org/#/c/563375/11/nova/objects/instance_group.py | 17:03 |
mriedem | deprecate policies, add policy | 17:03 |
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gibi | OK, so the instance group still has the old polcies field available | 17:03 |
gibi | that helps | 17:03 |
mriedem | yes although it doesn't set it | 17:03 |
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gibi | so we don't have the value to populate the notification payload | 17:04 |
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gibi | we might reuse the obj_make_compatible call to get the value back | 17:04 |
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mriedem | true | 17:05 |
mriedem | i thought we didn't use obj_make_compatible in the versioned objects though | 17:05 |
mriedem | i.e. are you suggesting we set both policies and policy in the notification payload? | 17:05 |
gibi | to keep the meaning of the minor bump we should populate the policies field in the payload | 17:06 |
gibi | as somebody using the parser for the older minor version still try to use that | 17:06 |
mriedem | have we done a major bump in the versioned notification objects yet? | 17:07 |
gibi | it only make sense to me to to send the old field if we send real value in that field | 17:07 |
gibi | no, this would be the first major bump on the payload | 17:08 |
gibi | the NotificationPublisher has version 2.2 but that is not directly serialized into the notification | 17:08 |
mriedem | is there any problem in sending a new major version of this payload? | 17:09 |
mriedem | we don't know who or how these are consumed so it's hard to say | 17:09 |
gibi | sending is easy | 17:09 |
gibi | but as you said we don't know who is receiving it | 17:09 |
gibi | btw, how we keep the REST API compatible for the older microversions regardin the polcies field? | 17:10 |
mriedem | i defer to what you think's best here | 17:10 |
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mriedem | the caller of the rest api gets the response body back based on the version | 17:10 |
mriedem | with notifications, no one is calling with the version they want | 17:10 |
mriedem | they just get what we give them | 17:10 |
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gibi | mriedem: I mean with <2.62 the REST API should return a polcies field with real value | 17:11 |
gibi | mriedem: so we have the data available | 17:12 |
gibi | I mean have to have the data available | 17:12 |
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mriedem | yes | 17:12 |
gibi | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/567534/9/nova/api/openstack/compute/server_groups.py@102 | 17:12 |
mriedem | that's true for the rest api | 17:12 |
gibi | the API does a db query like objects.InstanceGroup.get_by_uuid(context, id) | 17:13 |
gibi | it does not specify the object version | 17:13 |
gibi | so I assume it gets the latest | 17:13 |
gibi | and still assumes that the group.polcies field is populated in the object | 17:14 |
gibi | so I don't see how the notification codepath cannot make the same assumption | 17:14 |
mriedem | because of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/563375/11/nova/objects/instance_group.py@185 | 17:14 |
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mriedem | i'm not sure where you're going with this, if you want the notification payload to just populate both fields (if possible) then i think that's fine | 17:16 |
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gibi | mriedem: yeah, I would go with the minor bump and populate both fields | 17:17 |
mriedem | probably with a note that the policies field is for legacy compat | 17:17 |
gibi | mriedem: I might misunderstand your statement about not haveing the old field populated | 17:17 |
mriedem | i meant https://review.openstack.org/#/c/563375/11/nova/objects/instance_group.py@158 | 17:17 |
gibi | so for the new groups the polcies field will not be set and the REST API < 2.63 will return sort of false information for those as well | 17:19 |
gibi | or I'm confused | 17:20 |
gibi | :0 | 17:20 |
gibi | what will https://review.openstack.org/#/c/563375/11/nova/objects/instance_group.py@207 do | 17:20 |
gibi | anyhow I will comment on the patch | 17:21 |
gibi | bottom line, i try to go with the minor bump if we can have the old polcies field populated | 17:21 |
mriedem | it looks like when pulling one of these out of the database, both the policies and policy fields will be set | 17:21 |
mriedem | so the rest api can go either way | 17:21 |
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gibi | hm, but the value of 'policy' will be someting complex so putting that into the policies field will not work | 17:22 |
mriedem | policy is an object with a policy field, which is the policy name | 17:22 |
gibi | as the polcies field is just a sting | 17:22 |
mriedem | so it sets policies = [policy.policy] | 17:22 |
mriedem | yes | 17:22 |
mriedem | list of strings | 17:22 |
gibi | OK L 177 does that but L 207 does polcies = [policy] | 17:23 |
mriedem | i think this is a good opportunity for you to leave comments on the review :) | 17:23 |
mriedem | and for me to have lunch | 17:23 |
gibi | exactly | 17:23 |
gibi | I will do that | 17:23 |
gibi | thanks for your time | 17:24 |
mriedem | yw | 17:24 |
mriedem | ttyl | 17:24 |
gibi | have a good lunch | 17:24 |
gibi | #endmeeting | 17:24 |
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