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| Liat | Hi | 07:55 |
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| ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 08:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 22 08:00:23 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 08:00 |
| ifat_afek | Hi :-) | 08:00 |
| yujunz | Hi o/ | 08:00 |
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| eyalb | (ό‿ὸ)ﾉ | 08:01 |
| idan_hefetz | Yo :) | 08:02 |
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| ifat_afek | Today’s agenda: | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | •Status and Updates | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | •Open Discussion | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Status and Updates | 08:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status and Updates (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:04 | |
| ifat_afek | I don’t have many updates of my own. I started looking on the required change to make Vitrage-Mistral integration fully functional. | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | We need to pass to Mistral as a parameter one of the matched resources from the condition. For example: | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | - action: | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | action_type: execute_mistral | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | properties: | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | workflow: migrate_server | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | input: | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | server_to_migrate: ${instance} | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | another_input: blabla | 08:05 |
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| ifat_afek | The missing part is the ${instance} | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | That’s it for me | 08:06 |
| yujunz | What is the ${...} here? yaml syntax? | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | The syntax that I plan to propose. We already have it in nagios_conf.yaml | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | It means: take the instance from the condition | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | Or maybe it’s ok without the $ ?… | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | As in action_target | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | Well, I need to give it some more thought… | 08:07 |
| yujunz | Yes, I just want to mention action_target | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | But we need to distinguish (in the code) between the ‘blabla’ in the example, and the ‘instance’ which is a reference to a matched instance in the graph | 08:08 |
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| nivolas | hey | 08:08 |
| ifat_afek | So I thought that the ${instance} will make it more clear | 08:09 |
| ifat_afek | In action_target, it is always a reference | 08:09 |
| yujunz | I would prefer to keep consistency. Currently all reference in vitrage template does not require extra token | 08:09 |
| ifat_afek | Right, but how can you distinguish between these two? | 08:09 |
| ifat_afek | server_to_migrate: instance | 08:09 |
| ifat_afek | another_input: blabla | 08:10 |
| yujunz | We have referenced entity and relationship in condition as well | 08:10 |
| ifat_afek | But how can you tell that blabla is a string, and not a missing reference (that should be detected by the template validator)? | 08:10 |
| yujunz | Need to think more about it :-) | 08:11 |
| yujunz | Maybe ${..} is the only choice... I'm not sure | 08:11 |
| ifat_afek | Ok, let me know if you have a better idea | 08:12 |
| ifat_afek | That’s it for me | 08:12 |
| yujunz | Short update from me | 08:13 |
| yujunz | The blueprint of proactive RCA is almost done | 08:13 |
| yujunz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/519264/ | 08:14 |
| yujunz | Please let me know if you have additional questions | 08:14 |
| yujunz | The detail implementation will be proposed in sub blueprints. This one will explain the general ideas of this evolution. | 08:14 |
| yujunz | And I recommend the reviewer read the HTML output along with rst source | 08:15 |
| ifat_afek | I’m probably ok with it, but would like to give it a little more thought. And I also want more people to review it... | 08:15 |
| yujunz | #link http://logs.openstack.org/64/519264/15/check/build-openstack-sphinx-docs/298cb8f/html/specs/queens/approved/proactive-rca.html | 08:15 |
| ifat_afek | The HTML format definitely helps | 08:16 |
| yujunz | Another patch helps you write rst | 08:16 |
| yujunz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521410/ | 08:16 |
| yujunz | It will build html automatically on any changes | 08:16 |
| ifat_afek | Cool, I will review it later | 08:17 |
| yujunz | No need to run tox -edoc and refresh the browser again and again | 08:17 |
| yujunz | That's all from my side | 08:17 |
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| idan_hefetz | This link is help full, i have to say the blueprint was not very clear to me. i hope the sub blueprint will help me understand the change better. | 08:19 |
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| yujunz | Sure idan_hefetz | 08:20 |
| idan_hefetz | Ok, i'll update | 08:20 |
| idan_hefetz | The event api now allows creating custom alarms: | 08:20 |
| idan_hefetz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521775/ | 08:20 |
| idan_hefetz | So we can now easily create dummy alarms using this cli: | 08:20 |
| idan_hefetz | vitrage event post --type 'compute.bad.stuff' --details '{"hostname": "compute-0-0","source": "sample_monitor","cause": "another alarm","severity": "critical","status":"down","monitor_id": "sample monitor","monitor_event_id": "456"}' | 08:20 |
| ifat_afek | Cool!! | 08:21 |
| idan_hefetz | :) | 08:21 |
| idan_hefetz | It will be also available in the tempest using the vitrage_utils.py method 'generate_fake_host_alarm' | 08:21 |
| idan_hefetz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521851/ | 08:21 |
| idan_hefetz | Also regarding tempest, please see the folder 'vitrage/vitrage_tempest_tests/tests/common/' | 08:21 |
| idan_hefetz | It contains many utility functions for testing, please use and add your own. | 08:21 |
| yujunz | Cool. This really helps during local development | 08:22 |
| idan_hefetz | use the status 'up' or 'down' to raise/remove | 08:23 |
| ifat_afek | Note that you should use the ‘doctor’ datasource for this. Make sure you have it in your vitrage.conf | 08:23 |
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| idan_hefetz | That's it for me | 08:24 |
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| ifat_afek | An update on behalf of Muhamad Najjar: he is about to finish the persistor implementation | 08:25 |
| dwj | It seems that 'status' in detail is positional. | 08:25 |
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| idan_hefetz | what do you mean? | 08:27 |
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| dwj | It seems that 'status' in detail is always required. :) | 08:28 |
| yujunz | A mandatory attribute? | 08:28 |
| ifat_afek | dwj: do you see a real use case where it doesn’t appear? | 08:28 |
| ifat_afek | Without the status, we need to write in Vitrage: if event_type==‘compute.host.down’ then raise alarm; else if event_type==‘compute.host.up’ then clear the ‘compute.host.down’ alarm… | 08:29 |
| yujunz | What is this event from? Is the key always named "status"? | 08:30 |
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| yujunz | Or it is an internal vitrage event format? | 08:30 |
| ifat_afek | The format was copied&pasted from the Doctor SB API definition | 08:30 |
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| ifat_afek | And I believe that dwj is right and status is not mandatory | 08:31 |
| dwj | yes, i know. I'm thinking about other monitor using the event API, maybe they not use 'status'. | 08:31 |
| idan_hefetz | I will try to address this issue in the commit. | 08:32 |
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| idan_hefetz | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521775/ | 08:32 |
| idan_hefetz | we can continue the discussion there | 08:32 |
| ifat_afek | I guess we can just ignore events that don’t have a status, instead of failing. But we won’t raise or clear an alarm in this case (we won’t know what to do) | 08:33 |
| dwj | OK, thanks~ | 08:33 |
| ifat_afek | Anyone else has an update? | 08:33 |
| yujunz | I'll leave something to open discussion :-) | 08:34 |
| ifat_afek | I have something for open discussion too :-) | 08:35 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Open Discussion | 08:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:35 | |
| ifat_afek | yujunz: you go first | 08:35 |
| yujunz | Ok, I now have some idea for implementing an old blueprint | 08:35 |
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| yujunz | #link https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/vitrage-specs/specs/pike/approved/datasource-skeleton-generator.html | 08:35 |
| ifat_afek | I remember this one | 08:36 |
| yujunz | Shall I moved it to queens/approved before working on? | 08:36 |
| ifat_afek | Yes, I think so | 08:36 |
| yujunz | I want to utilize cookiecutter for it | 08:36 |
| yujunz | #link https://github.com/audreyr/cookiecutter | 08:36 |
| yujunz | It is used for creating project skeleton such as Python packages, jQuery plugin | 08:37 |
| ifat_afek | Looks cool | 08:37 |
| yujunz | Should be suitable for data source as well | 08:37 |
| ifat_afek | Go for it | 08:37 |
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| yujunz | Another thing is that how frequent shall we follow up the prioritized goals in queens | 08:38 |
| ifat_afek | Good question. Do you want to go over the list now? | 08:38 |
| yujunz | As you wish :-) | 08:38 |
| yujunz | I think if weekly is too frequent, we can make it monthly | 08:38 |
| ifat_afek | Ok | 08:38 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vitrage-ptg-queens | 08:39 |
| ifat_afek | Must | 08:39 |
| ifat_afek | Queens goals - ifat_afek | 08:39 |
| ifat_afek | Move tempests tests to a separate repository | 08:39 |
| ifat_afek | Policies in the code | 08:39 |
| ifat_afek | Rewrite Aodh datasource (Ceilometer API is being removed these days) - Wenjuan | 08:39 |
| ifat_afek | Support Networkx 2.0 - if the global requirements are changed to adopt the new version, we must support it - Nokia | 08:39 |
| ifat_afek | So let’s go over it | 08:39 |
| ifat_afek | Queens goals: the policy refactoring is over | 08:39 |
| ifat_afek | The tempest tests - idan_hefetz and nivo are working on tempest refactory and fixes, so I’m waiting for them to finish first | 08:40 |
| ifat_afek | But it’s not a big task, so I’m not worried about it | 08:40 |
| ifat_afek | dwj: are you still here? the rewrite Aodh datasource is over, right? | 08:40 |
| dwj | yes, it's done. | 08:41 |
| ifat_afek | Networkx 2.0: I know that annarez started working on it, but she didn’t finish and she is now in New Zealand :-) one of us will have to take over this task | 08:41 |
| ifat_afek | Looks like the ‘musts’ are in a very good state | 08:41 |
| yujunz | Yeah \o/ | 08:42 |
| ifat_afek | Very Important | 08:42 |
| ifat_afek | Improve the tempest tests - Nokia | 08:42 |
| ifat_afek | Make sure all existing tests run in the gate | 08:42 |
| ifat_afek | Add tempest tests to python-vitrageclient | 08:42 |
| ifat_afek | Should wait for the zuul migration to finish ? | 08:42 |
| ifat_afek | what about vitrage-dashboard ? need to understand how to test ui ? | 08:42 |
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| ifat_afek | copy&paste is stages since it’s a long list | 08:42 |
| ifat_afek | Run existing tests in the gate - in progress (idan_hefetz and nivo) | 08:43 |
| ifat_afek | tempest in python-vitrageclient - not started | 08:43 |
| ifat_afek | same for vitrage-dashboard | 08:43 |
| yujunz | Anyone assigned for those two? | 08:43 |
| ifat_afek | Configurable notifications API - in progress | 08:43 |
| ifat_afek | yujunz: no | 08:43 |
| ifat_afek | I believe most of us are working on more urgent issues | 08:44 |
| yujunz | OK. I just ask. I'm not familiar with these fields so can't help much :-( | 08:44 |
| ifat_afek | Me neither… eyalb is familiar with the python-vitrageclient. Regarding the vitrage-dashboard, none of us knows how to handle it, if at all there is a standard way to do it | 08:45 |
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| ifat_afek | Moving on | 08:45 |
| ifat_afek | HA - Muhamad Najjar | 08:45 |
| ifat_afek | This one is in progress | 08:45 |
| ifat_afek | Parallel evaluation of vitrage templates - done (idan_hefetz) | 08:45 |
| ifat_afek | Bi-directional deducing - ZTE | 08:46 |
| ifat_afek | Template simplification | 08:46 |
| ifat_afek | Suspect status | 08:46 |
| ifat_afek | Diagnostic action | 08:46 |
| ifat_afek | Equivalence and aggregation - ZTE | 08:46 |
| ifat_afek | Resource equivalence | 08:46 |
| ifat_afek | Edge equivalence | 08:46 |
| ifat_afek | Aggregation of equivalent entities (resources, edges, alarms) | 08:46 |
| ifat_afek | I believe these are all in progress, right? | 08:46 |
| yujunz | Yes. Most of them are covered by proactive RCA | 08:46 |
| ifat_afek | Ok. Done with the very important. Moving to important | 08:47 |
| ifat_afek | alarm history | 08:47 |
| ifat_afek | Discovery agent - Nir Cohen | 08:47 |
| ifat_afek | Integration with doctor - Wenjuan | 08:47 |
| ifat_afek | support TripleO | 08:47 |
| ifat_afek | call Nova reset-server-state | 08:47 |
| ifat_afek | Use case respository - Liyin | 08:47 |
| ifat_afek | fault model for openstack core services such as nova, neutron and etc... | 08:47 |
| ifat_afek | SNMP parsing service - Peipei | 08:47 |
| ifat_afek | alarm history - depends on the HA. I believe we will get to it only in Rocky | 08:47 |
| ifat_afek | Discovery agent - not started | 08:47 |
| ifat_afek | Integration with Doctor - in progress | 08:48 |
| ifat_afek | support TripleO - not started | 08:48 |
| ifat_afek | call Nova reset-server-state - in progress | 08:48 |
| ifat_afek | Use case respository - yujunz, do you know anything about it? | 08:48 |
| yujunz | I think it is not started. Could you confirm with Liyin? peipei | 08:48 |
| ifat_afek | SNMP parsing service - spec was approved | 08:49 |
| ifat_afek | yujunz, is it you updating the etherpad? :-) | 08:49 |
| ifat_afek | Good idea | 08:49 |
| ifat_afek | And regarding the medium priority: | 08:49 |
| yujunz | Yes, it's me | 08:49 |
| ifat_afek | Template CRUD - idan_kinory is working on it | 08:50 |
| ifat_afek | The others were not started | 08:50 |
| ifat_afek | I believe that’s it? | 08:50 |
| yujunz | Sound good | 08:50 |
| ifat_afek | I feel that we are in a very good state, comparing to the previous releases | 08:50 |
| yujunz | So do I. A good start in queens | 08:51 |
| ifat_afek | :-) | 08:51 |
| ifat_afek | Ok, we are almost running out of time, but I have two issues to discuss. We don’t have time for a real discussion, but at least we can think about them offline | 08:52 |
| ifat_afek | I got an email from Greg Waines from WindRiver. They are thinking about new features in Vitrage. | 08:52 |
| ifat_afek | One of them might be related to the alarm aggregation blueprint by Yujunz. It might also relate to the ‘host maintenance’ feature by Doctor. | 08:52 |
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| ifat_afek | WindRiver would like to clear all alarms on the host and its contained resources, in case the host is being rebooted. | 08:52 |
| ifat_afek | My initial thoughts were that maybe the API function that returns the aggregated graph will filter out these alarms. Not sure exactly how, because ‘host reboot’ is an event and not an alarm. If you have any other ideas, let’s discuss them. | 08:52 |
| ifat_afek | Another issue by WindRiver is that they wish to store and query events in Vitrage. | 08:53 |
| ifat_afek | Examples: | 08:53 |
| ifat_afek | •new compute hosts being added to system, | 08:53 |
| ifat_afek | •Administrative lock / unlock of host | 08:53 |
| ifat_afek | •Administrative request for switch of activity between Active/Standby Controllers, | 08:53 |
| ifat_afek | •software patch applied to host | 08:53 |
| ifat_afek | •nova instance evacuated | 08:53 |
| ifat_afek | I think such events could be useful for better RCA, but we need to think how they can be combined with the alarms mechanism. | 08:53 |
| ifat_afek | Let me know if you have any feedback now, or we can discuss it in the next meeting (or maybe they’ll suggest a blueprint) | 08:54 |
| yujunz | I think we may need to take "event" into vitrage template as well | 08:55 |
| ifat_afek | Could be | 08:55 |
| yujunz | In additional to current entity "resource" and "alarm" | 08:55 |
| ifat_afek | Good idea | 08:56 |
| yujunz | It may not be present in graph but there need to be some way to define actions on events | 08:56 |
| ifat_afek | And we need to relate the events to the resources | 08:56 |
| ifat_afek | Somehow | 08:56 |
| yujunz | Or it could be in graph. I'm not sure yet | 08:56 |
| ifat_afek | And show an event list, but that’s the easy part | 08:56 |
| ifat_afek | Another question is when to clear events. Unlike alarms, they will never disappear on their own. | 08:57 |
| ifat_afek | And after a certain time, they should no longer be considered for the RCA (host reboot that happened yesterday is irrelevant, right?). So we might need to introduce a time window concept | 08:58 |
| ifat_afek | Interesting :-) | 08:58 |
| ifat_afek | Well, we should end the meeting in 1 minute | 08:59 |
| ifat_afek | Bye :-) | 08:59 |
| eyalb | bye | 08:59 |
| yujunz | Bye | 08:59 |
| ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 08:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 22 08:59:43 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-11-22-08.00.html | 08:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-11-22-08.00.txt | 08:59 |
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| gmann | #startmeeting nova api | 12:58 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 22 12:58:05 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:58 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova api)" | 12:58 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_api' | 12:58 |
| gmann | who all here today? | 12:58 |
| alex_xu | o/ | 12:58 |
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| gmann | alex_xu: seems like two of us. | 12:59 |
| alex_xu | gmann: yea | 12:59 |
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| gmann | may be we can close early | 13:00 |
| gmann | from me, want review on this series - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/json-schema-validation-for-query-param | 13:00 |
| alex_xu | yea :) | 13:00 |
| alex_xu | gmann: got it, put it in my list | 13:01 |
| gmann | alex_xu: thanks | 13:01 |
| alex_xu | np | 13:01 |
| gmann | other part is mriedem send etherpad link for BP tracking | 13:01 |
| gmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-queens-blueprint-status | 13:01 |
| gmann | we have all BP there, | 13:01 |
| gmann | policy removal one, i am waiting for oslo-policy to release with policy deprecation feature | 13:02 |
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| gmann | i talked to gcb in summit and he will be releasing it soon | 13:02 |
| alex_xu | cool | 13:02 |
| gmann | alex_xu: thats all from me, you have anything | 13:03 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:fix-api-guide | 13:03 |
| alex_xu | I only have this | 13:03 |
| gmann | +1 | 13:03 |
| alex_xu | get few people help on the bugsmash | 13:03 |
| gmann | i have not reviewed all, but its in my list | 13:04 |
| alex_xu | gmann: thanks, I will push people update the patch tomorrow, and then try to catch other core review them | 13:04 |
| gmann | though its long weekend in japan from today, 4 days :) but ll be working sometime during that | 13:04 |
| gmann | alex_xu: +1 | 13:04 |
| gmann | alex_xu: hows bug smash going as overall? | 13:05 |
| alex_xu | gmann: it is also holiday in japan? | 13:05 |
| gmann | alex_xu: yea from tomorrow till monday | 13:05 |
| alex_xu | gmann: good, we have probably 8 nova contributors at here | 13:06 |
| gmann | wow. | 13:06 |
| alex_xu | but most of them are new | 13:06 |
| alex_xu | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenStack-Bug-Smash-Queens-Wuhan-Bugs-List | 13:06 |
| gmann | np, you can teach them you are good mentor | 13:07 |
| alex_xu | here is the list for bug people try to fix | 13:07 |
| alex_xu | yea, try my best | 13:07 |
| gmann | thanks | 13:07 |
| gmann | i see highest activity on nova side, ll keep checking | 13:07 |
| gmann | till when is bugsmash | 13:07 |
| alex_xu | gmann: thanks! | 13:08 |
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| gmann | anything else you have or we can close it. | 13:10 |
| alex_xu | I think we can close it :) | 13:10 |
| gmann | ok | 13:10 |
| gmann | thanks | 13:10 |
| gmann | #endmeeting | 13:10 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 22 13:10:42 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:10 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-11-22-12.58.html | 13:10 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-11-22-12.58.txt | 13:10 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-11-22-12.58.log.html | 13:10 |
| alex_xu | gmann: thanks for running the meeting | 13:10 |
| gmann | alex_xu: np! | 13:10 |
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| inc0 | #startmeeting kolla | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 22 16:00:16 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is inc0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 16:00 |
| inc0 | #topic woot! | 16:00 |
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| inc0 | good morning | 16:00 |
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| duonghq | wo0t | 16:00 |
| spsurya__ | morning w00t | 16:00 |
| egonzalez90 | Woot | 16:00 |
| * inc0 is sleepy :( | 16:00 | |
| Jeffrey4l | woot | 16:01 |
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| sdake | o/ | 16:02 |
| vhosakot | o/ | 16:02 |
| duonghq | \o o/ \o/ | 16:02 |
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| inc0 | ok let's gett this going | 16:03 |
| inc0 | #topic announcements | 16:03 |
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| inc0 | happy thanksgiving to our US folk | 16:03 |
| gema | happy thanksgiving everyone! | 16:03 |
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| inc0 | anyone wants to add any announcement?:) | 16:03 |
| vhosakot | turkey day all! | 16:04 |
| vhosakot | https://1funny.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/thanksgiving_funny_picture_07.jpg | 16:04 |
| inc0 | :) | 16:05 |
| inc0 | soo we don't have agenda | 16:05 |
| duonghq | again | 16:05 |
| inc0 | yeah | 16:05 |
| vhosakot | inc0: the Sydney sessions went well. Sorry I missed last week's meeting. | 16:05 |
| inc0 | it's slow last couple of weeks | 16:05 |
| inc0 | no worries | 16:05 |
| inc0 | I'm glad, I watched videos | 16:05 |
| vhosakot | cool | 16:05 |
| inc0 | let me do one thing before we go to open discussion | 16:06 |
| inc0 | #topic gate updates | 16:06 |
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| inc0 | soo some of you might've missed, but we're not using tarballs.o.o any more | 16:06 |
| inc0 | I mean we're in process of getting rid of them | 16:06 |
| inc0 | now kolla gates builds images, publish to dockerhub itself | 16:06 |
| inc0 | and kolla gates uses dockerhub | 16:07 |
| inc0 | + caching proxy in nodepools | 16:07 |
| gema | inc0: where do images end? | 16:07 |
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| inc0 | https://hub.docker.com/u/kolla/ | 16:07 |
| gema | cool, thanks | 16:07 |
| egonzalez90 | Im not seeing all images pushed, only source and not all of them | 16:08 |
| inc0 | right | 16:08 |
| inc0 | we use only source in gates | 16:08 |
| inc0 | and we don't use all images in ansible gates:) | 16:08 |
| Jeffrey4l | inc0, 1. should we push all images? 2. should we push binary images? | 16:08 |
| inc0 | so reason I did what I did (limit images) | 16:08 |
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| inc0 | is because 1. we want to conserve bandwidth | 16:09 |
| Jeffrey4l | yes. i am un-limit this ;( | 16:09 |
| inc0 | 2. some images are often broken | 16:09 |
| inc0 | and that will affect arguably more important images | 16:09 |
| inc0 | but if you want to push all, I'm fine with it | 16:10 |
| Jeffrey4l | i propose to push them. especially for stable branch. they are more stable ;D | 16:10 |
| inc0 | well both stable and master should push same set of images tbh | 16:11 |
| Jeffrey4l | yes. so let us push them until we really meet issue ( like network or stability ) | 16:11 |
| hrw | o/ | 16:11 |
| inc0 | ok | 16:12 |
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| chason | Sorry for late o/ | 16:12 |
| gema | inc0: you push on every commit? | 16:12 |
| inc0 | gema: no, it's once a day | 16:12 |
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| gema | inc0: ok, makes sense | 16:12 |
| gema | then I am with Jeffrey4l , push them all | 16:12 |
| Jeffrey4l | inc0, btw, i am trying to push the commit once a day + every commit. | 16:13 |
| inc0 | I think that's a bit overkill | 16:13 |
| Jeffrey4l | push the image* | 16:13 |
| gema | Jeffrey4l: that's too much | 16:13 |
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| Jeffrey4l | kolla repo is not changed too much | 16:13 |
| gema | how many commits a day? | 16:13 |
| * Jeffrey4l is calculating | 16:14 | |
| gema | (ballpark figure, average) | 16:14 |
| Jeffrey4l | i think less 1 per day recently. | 16:15 |
| inc0 | yeah, it's not changing that much | 16:15 |
| gema | then once a day like inc0 is saing makes sense, no? | 16:15 |
| inc0 | it might be issue when we find out bug and our gates gets unblocked only after one day | 16:16 |
| gema | inc0: cannot you make a manual push if needed? | 16:16 |
| duonghq | I think we will have more and more commit in some rush case (like in the end of cycle when we fix bug) | 16:16 |
| Jeffrey4l | inc0, yes. | 16:16 |
| inc0 | right duonghq is right | 16:16 |
| gema | duonghq: yeah, that's why once a day makes sense | 16:16 |
| inc0 | and that will impact merge speed negatively | 16:16 |
| gema | we don't want to clog infra during release rush | 16:17 |
| Jeffrey4l | duonghq, if it is really two much. we can disable this. not it is just in-project jobs. very easy to control by ours. | 16:17 |
| inc0 | if we need to merge few things, very long publish gates, more prone to error too, will make it harder | 16:17 |
| inc0 | frankly? I'd keep it in periodic | 16:17 |
| inc0 | we also need to be careful about shared infra | 16:17 |
| duonghq | I agreed with gema on we should have some mechanism for force push beside once a day policy | 16:18 |
| inc0 | it's not just our project that will get impacted | 16:18 |
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| gema | inc0: +1 | 16:18 |
| inc0 | so let's keep it daily for now please | 16:19 |
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| inc0 | if we need to push manually for whatever reason, we can quickly merge gate change | 16:19 |
| inc0 | as Jeffrey said | 16:19 |
| inc0 | and rollback if needed later | 16:19 |
| Jeffrey4l | so daily push, without every commit push, right? | 16:20 |
| inc0 | yes | 16:20 |
| inc0 | I'd keep it this way | 16:20 |
| inc0 | that being said, we still need push for pike and ocata | 16:20 |
| Jeffrey4l | and push all type of image? | 16:20 |
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| inc0 | I'd be ok with that, I don't think it's needed, but sure, why not | 16:21 |
| Jeffrey4l | btw, i am think we can implement that when commmit mesage container "push-the-image" string, then it push the image for that commit. | 16:22 |
| inc0 | that's be cool | 16:22 |
| inc0 | like new commit msg tag ForceImagePush | 16:22 |
| Jeffrey4l | yeah. i will try this later. | 16:23 |
| chason | Jeffrey4l good idea :p | 16:23 |
| inc0 | anything else on that topic? | 16:23 |
| Jeffrey4l | no from me. | 16:24 |
| inc0 | #topic open discussion | 16:24 |
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| inc0 | anyone | 16:24 |
| inc0 | ? | 16:24 |
| inc0 | guess not:) | 16:25 |
| duonghq | ah | 16:25 |
| duonghq | I have one | 16:25 |
| inc0 | shoot | 16:25 |
| duonghq | spsurya__, ping | 16:25 |
| spsurya__ | inc0: <spsurya> can we mark https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+spec/ks-rolling-upgrade-role implemented | 16:25 |
| spsurya__ | duonghq: yeah | 16:25 |
| inc0 | if it's implemented:) | 16:25 |
| inc0 | sure | 16:25 |
| inc0 | great job! | 16:25 |
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| spsurya__ | small downtime after containers restart | 16:26 |
| spsurya__ | so i added in description tab | 16:26 |
| spsurya__ | about that | 16:26 |
| spsurya__ | and will mark as implented | 16:26 |
| spsurya__ | duonghq: ^^ | 16:27 |
| duonghq | I agreed with spsurya__ | 16:27 |
| duonghq | but it's your bp, inc0 | 16:27 |
| duonghq | how about you? | 16:27 |
| spsurya__ | yeah that is why need inc0 view | 16:27 |
| inc0 | haha, I trust you guys completely | 16:27 |
| inc0 | also sub-second downtime on keystone won't even be visible | 16:28 |
| duonghq | iirc, I conducted small benchmark and I can see a little dark here, I posted the result in one passed meeting | 16:29 |
| hrw | or add 'forcepush' like we have with 'recheck'? | 16:29 |
| inc0 | I marked it completed | 16:29 |
| inc0 | hrw: well commit message not commit comment | 16:29 |
| inc0 | you can't push to hub from not-merged change | 16:30 |
| inc0 | secrets won't work | 16:30 |
| hrw | inc0: kind of 'after merge comment' for core revs | 16:30 |
| inc0 | no, zuul doesn't have this mechanism | 16:30 |
| inc0 | but we might be able to parse commit message in gates | 16:30 |
| hrw | anyway it goes through review anyway so it can be 'please add forcepush into commit msg' comment ;D | 16:30 |
| inc0 | right | 16:31 |
| Jeffrey4l | btw here is the patch related to push images to dockerhub, please review https://review.openstack.org/519969 | 16:31 |
| hrw | gave +1 as looks ok for me but no idea much about infra | 16:33 |
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| Jeffrey4l | thanks. | 16:34 |
| inc0 | I'll review it later | 16:34 |
| Jeffrey4l | okay | 16:35 |
| inc0 | anything else anyone? | 16:35 |
| hrw | can someone look at my patches? | 16:35 |
| hrw | 4 kolla, 1 kolla-ansible. 3 master, 2 backports... | 16:36 |
| hrw | ;D | 16:36 |
| spsurya__ | hrw: sure | 16:36 |
| hrw | or rather :8 (trying to imitate Cat from Shrek movie) | 16:37 |
| inc0 | ok everyone, let's wrap it up :) | 16:37 |
| inc0 | and give everyone 20min back | 16:37 |
| gema | thank you guys! o/ | 16:37 |
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| inc0 | again, happy thanksgiving and thank you all for coming! | 16:38 |
| inc0 | #endmeeting kolla | 16:38 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 22 16:38:06 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-11-22-16.00.html | 16:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-11-22-16.00.txt | 16:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-11-22-16.00.log.html | 16:38 |
| ener938 | I wish everybody a wonderful Thanksgiving! | 16:38 |
| ener938 | I am sure Openstack will be closed tomorrow. | 16:38 |
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| ener938 | See you all Friday! | 16:38 |
| gema | I can keep the shop open, our turkey won't be there until Xmas ;) | 16:38 |
| gema | ener938: have a happy one | 16:39 |
| hrw | cu guys | 16:39 |
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