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| rosmaita | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 28 14:00:22 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| jokke_ | o/ | 14:00 |
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| rosmaita | looks like not a big turnout | 14:01 |
| gb21 | Hi @rosmaita | 14:02 |
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| arcolife | rosmaita, Hello | 14:02 |
| jokke_ | moar peoples! :D | 14:02 |
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| smcginnis | o/ | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | ok, hello everyone | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | #topic updates | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "updates (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:03 | |
| nikhil | o/ | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | nikhil! | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | first update: spec proposal freeze is now in effect | 14:03 |
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| nikhil | Ha, yes that's me :) | 14:03 |
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| gb21 | Hi @nikhil | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | i'll put up a patch later opening a 'rocky' directory for new proposals | 14:04 |
| nikhil | Ohai gb21 | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | also, you may have noticed that i'm changing the way we do lite specs | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | i had to put up like 5 of them yesterday, and don't want to deal with merge conflicts | 14:04 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: ref that, if the "copy-from" needs its own, I can get that written over the weekend | 14:04 |
| jokke_ | if not we can just point to the IIR spec | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | so i'll be changing the spec-lite template | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | jokke_ : i was thinking just use the original IIR spec | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | anyway, the key point is that we all need to review specs so that people can meet the deadline for the spec freeze | 14:06 |
| belmoreira | Hi everyone | 14:06 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: I noticed ... that will still get messy on the spec page so we might want to put them to their own dir and have the page generated from those for specs.openstack.org | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | which is next Friday, 5 oct | 14:06 |
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| rosmaita | jokke_ : let's wait until the spec page actually gets messy | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | i figure "messy" == more than 10 titles | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | or say, 12, an even dozen | 14:07 |
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| rosmaita | i think we will be under that | 14:07 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: indeed ^^, thus I +2'd most of yours earlier ;) | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | but i do see your point, it's an evolving process! | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | ok, that's it for updates ... if people want to discuss specific aspects of some of the specs, we can do that in general discussion | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | which we should have plenty of time for, light agenda today | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | nikhil : someone has posted a quotas spec, you might want to take a look | 14:09 |
| nikhil | Sure | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | #topic image import testing | 14:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "image import testing (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:09 | |
| belmoreira | rosmaita what's the priority for quotas? | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | belmoreira: don't know, it really depends on whether the proposers are serious about working on them or not | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | we are going to be low on reviewer bandwidth, so they'd need to happen early in the cycle | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | but also, i haven't looked at the proposal yet | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | it needs to be consistent with the plans to eventually store limits in keystone | 14:11 |
| jokke_ | so I did poke our QE folks for help. By the looks of it they are quite busy trying to get their queues cleaned before Israel shuts down, so I assume no help from there short term. Abhishek promised to start working on those next week os will sync up with him | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | because we don't want to do this twice | 14:11 |
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| rosmaita | yeah, back to the image import testing | 14:11 |
| arcolife | I've seen nikhil's video on youtube regarding an interoperable sprint, about 1 year ago.. ? read the docs and etherpad, have an idea. is | 14:12 |
| arcolife | do we have a time for a quick video chat to summarize things for me to get started ? | 14:12 |
| arcolife | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-image-import-tests | 14:12 |
| belmoreira | rosmaita my understanding is that the work in keystone limits is stale. | 14:12 |
| arcolife | these are what we'd like in there? and there's 0 work regarding that ? | 14:12 |
| arcolife | ^^ | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | arcolife: yes, that;'s the initial list of stuff | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | belmoreira: let's hold off on quotas until open discussion | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | arcolife: you are interested in working on the import tests, i take it? | 14:13 |
| arcolife | rosmaita, yes, that's what seems available atm ? | 14:13 |
| arcolife | is there anything else higher priority and starting point ? | 14:13 |
| jokke_ | arcolife: what timezone you're on? Abhishek is utc +5.5 IIRC so it would likely be super helpful to catch up with him on the testing work | 14:14 |
| gb21 | @rosmaita, I am willing to work along arcolife on the tests | 14:14 |
| arcolife | jokke_, utc+5:30 | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | gb21 tha's great | 14:14 |
| arcolife | yep same | 14:14 |
| jokke_ | I'm sure he will be more than happy to have helping hands there and I'll do what ever I can to help out | 14:14 |
| jokke_ | arcolife: brilliant. Do you know Abhishek? | 14:14 |
| arcolife | jokke_, we started an email thread :) | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | arcolife: sorry, did not recognize your nick | 14:15 |
| jokke_ | :) | 14:15 |
| arcolife | rosmaita, ah. :D | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | arcolife why don't you ping abhishek and set up a time to talk with him? | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | that way you can all talk at a reasonable hour | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | also, we should all wish Abhishek's daughter a happy birthday | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | (that's why he's not here) | 14:16 |
| arcolife | rosmaita, thought we'd be doing a thurs knowledge sharing session. realized it's an irc scrum later. | 14:16 |
| arcolife | goodies. will setup a mtg now | 14:16 |
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| jokke_ | arcolife: if you schedule something around this with Abhishek and you manage to get it to your afternoon, feel free to count me in, I'll try to make time for it | 14:17 |
| arcolife | jokke_, 3.5 hrs behind 5.5 are we? | 14:18 |
| jokke_ | arcolife: I'm in Ireland so 5.5 behind you guys | 14:18 |
| arcolife | gotcha | 14:18 |
| jokke_ | and no, I won't be waking up silly-o-clock for that ... but voluteered as I'm sure rosmaita won't either to join us :P | 14:18 |
| jokke_ | and I don't want to hold you guys working until super late just to get us all there | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | well, depends on what time you all agree on :) | 14:19 |
| arcolife | rosmaita, iteroperable image import, there was a discussion an year back on YT in a sprint. we were concerned about not letting too much leeway for people to add non-standardized import formats ? | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | arcolife right, you can look over the original spec to see all the issues and how they're being addressed for interoperability | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | #link https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/glance-specs/specs/mitaka/approved/image-import/image-import-refactor.html | 14:20 |
| jokke_ | arcolife: prepare full pot of coffee ... that will take a while to digest ... good bedtime reading 'though | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | also, you can look in the current api-ref to see what's been implemented so far | 14:20 |
| nikhil | Look at the review of the spec too | 14:20 |
| nikhil | That will help much more | 14:21 |
| arcolife | roger that 0_0 | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | #link https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/image/v2/#interoperable-image-import | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | here's the review nikhil mentioned: | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232371/ | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | and also | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278086/ | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | and also | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/318313/ | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | that should keep you busy for a while! | 14:24 |
| nikhil | ;) | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | also, there's a section in the glance admin docs about how to turn on image import | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | #link https://docs.openstack.org/glance/latest/admin/interoperable-image-import.html | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | and then of course there's the code | 14:25 |
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| rosmaita | anyway, please organize a chat with abhishekk and you can get started ... glad to have you helping us out with testing! | 14:26 |
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| arcolife_ | rosmaita, referring to this link (lost you after #link) http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2017/glance.2017-09-28-14.00.log.txt ) | 14:26 |
| arcolife_ | rosmaita, glad to be a part. cheers. will read up and get back | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | ok, cool ... ty~ | 14:27 |
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| rosmaita | ok, time for open discussion | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | #topic open discussion | 14:27 |
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| rosmaita | ok, i've got one | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | i need some feedback on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468179/ | 14:29 |
| * arcolife_ too | 14:29 | |
| rosmaita | jokke_ doesn't like it | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | but i think he is being unreasonable | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | but that's just me | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | so it would be good to get some wider opinions | 14:30 |
| * smcginnis opens tab | 14:30 | |
| rosmaita | and maybe i should take tim bell's advice and do an operator survey | 14:30 |
| smcginnis | rosmaita: Maybe even just an email to openstack-operators to get some feedback? | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | smcginnis yeah, maybe that would be quicker | 14:31 |
| belmoreira | openstack-operators will be good. I need to revive my memory about it | 14:31 |
| belmoreira | just uploaded https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508133/ few hours ago. Can it be considered for this cycle? | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | ok, i'll do that and we can get some operator feedback | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | belmoreira yes, you got it in before the proposal freeze | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | i haven't looked it over yet | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | so not sure what resources it requires | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | but i'll read and comment later today | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | and we can continue the discussion on the patch | 14:33 |
| belmoreira | I think it needs some iterations but it will be great to have feedback and new ideas on it | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | sounds good | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | belmoreira honestly, i doubt we will have dev resources to do it in queens | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | unless you have a dev team available? | 14:34 |
| jokke_ | belmoreira: that touches very very closely to the Image Lifecycle discussion we had in PTG | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | but if we can get it refined before the sydney summit, and get feedback at the summit/forum, maybe it can be ready to do early in rocky | 14:35 |
| belmoreira | this was based in the discussion in the mailing list and the other spec that is as reference | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | ok, well i should shut up and read it | 14:35 |
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| rosmaita | no sense speculating about how much effort it will take without knowing what it's about :) | 14:36 |
| belmoreira | I think it will be more to trigger discussing than having an implementation immediately. let's see | 14:37 |
| belmoreira | and about quotas? | 14:37 |
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| rosmaita | sure, what are your thoughts about quotas? | 14:37 |
| jokke_ | belmoreira: so I'd be pretty confident saying that your proposal will not be done, but that said you might end up with something like "stale":true that is not listed by default | 14:38 |
| jokke_ | we will most likely not be filtering by default based on any given property needing to be set | 14:38 |
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| jokke_ | but having property, set of properties that is basis for something fitered out of the list is way more likely to go through | 14:39 |
| belmoreira | jokke_ it will be great to have feedback and find a good solution for this problem | 14:39 |
| belmoreira | about quotas... I feel that a solution in glance is being postponed for a long time | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | you are right about that! | 14:40 |
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| jokke_ | belmoreira: there is light capture of what we were brainstorming in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-queens-ptg-lifecycle | 14:40 |
| belmoreira | I agree about the dependencies (limits, hierarchical projects...) but it will be great if we find a compromise | 14:41 |
| jokke_ | ok so what comes to quotas, we had some people working on that cycles ago | 14:42 |
| nikhil | Maybe the dependency on hierarchical is gone? rosmaita ? | 14:42 |
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| rosmaita | so this is the spec that was proposed: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487777/ | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | i thought it had been updated, but apparently not | 14:43 |
| belmoreira | as private cloud that don't charge the users I rely on quotas. Deployments like mine can't control the image utilization. Any user can basically use all our storage for images. | 14:43 |
| jokke_ | the work got halted as there was supposed to be first cross project spec how this is done across projects, then it moved to Keystone coordinating it and providing the tools (read storing the actual quotas) and like some of you mentioned earlier it has been pretty quiet lately | 14:43 |
| nikhil | Ack ,ty | 14:44 |
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| rosmaita | belmoreira there is a user_storage_quota, but i guess that is insufficient for your use case? | 14:45 |
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| jokke_ | so I'm frankly not interested to talk about Glance specific solution again unless 1) we get OS community agreement that this is not going to be done "ever" as coordinated effort or 2) that coordinated effort moves to the point where we can use it and be aligned | 14:46 |
| belmoreira | in my case needs to be very large because some projects actually need it, but then all projects have that large quota available | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | belmoreira i understand | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | belmoreira are you at CERN? | 14:47 |
| nikhil | belmoreira: what storage backends do you use? Fs, swift, cinder? | 14:47 |
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| belmoreira | it would be great have a basic quota system (allowed used_space per project). That would solve my problem. And then we can iterate for the common solution with the other projects | 14:48 |
| belmoreira | rosmaita yes, I'm at CERN | 14:48 |
| belmoreira | nikhil we use ceph | 14:48 |
| nikhil | Ack | 14:49 |
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| rosmaita | belmoreira is storage your only concern? | 14:49 |
| belmoreira | at the moment our ceph poll only for images has 200TB | 14:49 |
| jokke_ | belmoreira: that actually makes the thing bit more difficult :P | 14:49 |
| jokke_ | belmoreira: IIRC your snapshots actually shows up as 0 size images in glance :( | 14:50 |
| belmoreira | rosmaita that is my bigger concern. If I can limit the amount of space that a project can use the number of images/snapshots is not a very big issue | 14:51 |
| belmoreira | jokke_ wow. I didn't noticed | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | yeah, but if jokke_ is correct, we won't be able to enforce it accurately | 14:51 |
| jokke_ | belmoreira: not 100% sure about that, but I remember discussion not so long ago. Apparently when Nova uses the ceph backend together with Glance it does not populate the size as the snapshot image is never streamed through glance API | 14:53 |
| belmoreira | but is that should be the case for nova ephemeral storage with ceph | 14:53 |
| belmoreira | we use the local storage in the compute nodes | 14:54 |
| jokke_ | so implementing quota that can't handle again that special case with Ceph is one of those things that is just security bug waiting to be filed | 14:54 |
| jokke_ | belmoreira: oh, so you're not affected by that very specific thing then | 14:54 |
| belmoreira | jokke_ I believe not. I never noticed that snapshots are marked with 0 size. But what you mentioned adds complexity in finding a proper solution | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | well, i've been thinking as quotas as a broad topic, but if we limit it to storage only, might be a good stopgap (assuming htere's a good way around the 0-size snapshot problem) | 14:56 |
| jokke_ | belmoreira: indeed | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | i imagine the 0 size is because nova is using user creds, and not allowed to set size on the image record? | 14:56 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: I think that would need poking the locations code (and I'm not sure how ceph reports the size of snapshots) | 14:57 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: I think that might be the case | 14:57 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: yet another thing that could be solved with the service tokens | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | i was just about to say that | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | we need to get a good sense of how stable the service token stuff is in keystone | 14:58 |
| jokke_ | ++ | 14:58 |
| rosmaita | because there are several improvements we could make if we use them | 14:58 |
| jokke_ | but my main point on that was, that as long as we have these kind of "show stoppers" there is really no good way to make that happen | 14:58 |
| rosmaita | we're running low on time | 14:58 |
| rosmaita | i think the first step would be figuring out what's necessary to get accurate image size reporting in glance | 14:59 |
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| rosmaita | and after that, we can tackle a simple quota for space consumed per tenant | 14:59 |
| jokke_ | Also if that quotas need is big enough, it might be good opportunity to get first quota type into keystone and file down how that is going to look like in larger scale | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | no sense going for a quota if we can't accurately measure what's limited | 14:59 |
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| arcolife_ | rosmaita, the service token thing blew up for >100 tenants w/ CFME https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1476371 | 14:59 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1476371 in -- Unknown "CFME has multiple issues adding OSP 8 and OSP 10 as providers with >100 projects/tenants via AD CF User" [Low,New] - Assigned to jhardy | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | arrrrgh | 15:00 |
| rosmaita | arcolife_ thanks for that link, will take a look | 15:00 |
| arcolife_ | we fixed that partially with new patches of cfme. | 15:00 |
| jokke_ | thanks all! | 15:00 |
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| rosmaita | ok, we are out of time, thanks everyone | 15:00 |
| nikhil | Thanks | 15:00 |
| rosmaita | continue discussion in glance channel if you want | 15:00 |
| arcolife_ | but the fix relies on generating 100k tokens or so, per 24 hrs. it was going much more than that/ | 15:00 |
| arcolife_ | cool. thanks all | 15:00 |
| rosmaita | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 28 15:00:46 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2017/glance.2017-09-28-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2017/glance.2017-09-28-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2017/glance.2017-09-28-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
| gb21 | Thanks | 15:00 |
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| sjmc7 | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:13 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 28 15:13:53 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sjmc7. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:13 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:13 |
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| sjmc7 | Sorry I’m so late; got caught up in something | 15:14 |
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| sjmc7 | Will give it a few minutes to see who’s about. The only news I really have is that we have the dubious distinction of being the first project to go into maintenance mode - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/502849/ | 15:16 |
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| sjmc7 | Hopefully activity will pick up and we can reevaluate that, but for now it seems like a good call. Thanks to Brian for sorting that out | 15:17 |
| lei-zh | \o | 15:17 |
| lei-zh | sorry I'm late | 15:17 |
| sjmc7 | I was too :) | 15:18 |
| lei-zh | I guess you are talking about maintenance mode | 15:18 |
| jokke_ | sjmc7: I'm happy that was option you guys decided to go for instead of letting the project being closed off | 15:18 |
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| sjmc7 | yep lei-zh | 15:19 |
| sjmc7 | jokke_: yeah, me too. we’re actually using it internally a lot, and my hope is that we can pick back up again | 15:19 |
| sjmc7 | so many companies drastically scaled back their commitment to openstack that it hit us pretty hard | 15:19 |
| jokke_ | sjmc7: well we were discussing about searchlight with some people during the PTG and the reality is that the problem it's solving has not gone away | 15:20 |
| sjmc7 | yeah… one thing that we’ve found it really good for is for delpoyments with lots of regions | 15:20 |
| jokke_ | and there's stuff like Lifecycle Management that could utilize lots of the info you're already providing to improve those things | 15:20 |
| jokke_ | I can see that! | 15:21 |
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| sjmc7 | yep. the project in the state it’s in works; i’m going to keep an eye on nova so we can hopefully move fully onto just consuming notifications, but i think it’s a good decision to make a note of projects with little activity so consumers aren’t deceived | 15:22 |
| sjmc7 | there’re still people who can work on it part time so we can fix bugs etc | 15:22 |
| jokke_ | yeah ... and that maintenance mode governance is there for good reason ... not everything needs to be in crazy full blast development all the time | 15:23 |
| sjmc7 | yeah. i’m honored we’re the first to use it (i think?) | 15:23 |
| jokke_ | as long as the health is monitored/taken care of that's brilliant if you're in the spot you can tell that "Hey, we're done(ish) we keep looking for security bugs and changes on our dependencies to keep the things that way) | 15:24 |
| sjmc7 | yeah. there’s stuff i’d like to have got to, but it’s hard if nobody’s being paid to do it :) | 15:24 |
| jokke_ | that was like Plan C or D for Glance earlier this year, fortunately we did not need to do it because the reasoning would have been "wrong" | 15:25 |
| sjmc7 | well, glance is one of the ‘too big to fail’ projects | 15:25 |
| jokke_ | and the interest might surface to do those things more when there is no demand or expectation of tight timelines and big changes every cycle | 15:26 |
| sjmc7 | so it is a different scenario. i think with the explosion of projects after the big tent change, there’ll be more that find themselves in our boat | 15:26 |
| sjmc7 | yep | 15:26 |
| jokke_ | well sorry to take over your meeting time. Just wanted to bring up that the situation did not go unnoticed ;) | 15:27 |
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| TravT | o/ | 15:28 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, appreciate it, and sorry i couldn’t be at the PTG to fight our corner | 15:28 |
| sjmc7 | again, i really appreciate brian’s involvement | 15:29 |
| TravT | +2 | 15:29 |
| sjmc7 | hey. we were just wrapping up | 15:29 |
| TravT | sorry, i got pulled into another meeting | 15:30 |
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| sjmc7 | did anyone have any other topics they wanted to discuss? | 15:31 |
| sjmc7 | ok, in that case i guess i’ll end it here | 15:34 |
| sjmc7 | thanks everyone. thanks jokke_ for your interest! | 15:34 |
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| sjmc7 | #endmeeting | 15:36 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 28 15:36:46 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:36 |
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| evrardjp | o/ | 15:59 |
| hwoarang | o/ | 16:00 |
| spotz | Hey all | 16:01 |
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| evrardjp | hey | 16:01 |
| spotz | #startmeeting openstack_ansible_meeting | 16:01 |
| spotz | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-ansible#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 16:01 |
| spotz | #topic Roll Call | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 28 16:01:50 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is spotz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
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| evrardjp | o/ | 16:02 |
| * hwoarang is around | 16:02 | |
| evrardjp | in da place even! | 16:02 |
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| spotz | Let's see if we get anyone else as it's a short agenda | 16:03 |
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| evrardjp | well I have things to say, let's hope at least some ppl will listen :p | 16:04 |
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| logan- | o/ | 16:04 |
| spotz | :) | 16:04 |
| spotz | hehe I was getting my reping ready:) | 16:05 |
| jmccrory | o/ | 16:05 |
| evrardjp | works apparently :) | 16:06 |
| spotz | #topic Forum @ Sydney Summit - 6-8 November - Sydney, AU | 16:06 |
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| spotz | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osa-sydney-summit-planning | 16:06 |
| evrardjp | ok for the forum, I proposed a generic "ops" session | 16:06 |
| spotz | Makes sense, there going to be onboarding again? | 16:07 |
| evrardjp | please don't hesitate to add the things you'd like to talk/have a feedback about (whether you can attend or not) | 16:07 |
| evrardjp | I don't know | 16:07 |
| evrardjp | there is a hackathon before | 16:07 |
| evrardjp | But it seems it's already organized and I am not sure we can simply join | 16:08 |
| cloudnull | o/ | 16:08 |
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| prometheanfire | o/ | 16:08 |
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| evrardjp | I think that's all we can say | 16:08 |
| evrardjp | next topic? | 16:09 |
| spotz | evrardjp: hackathon is different there is the Upstream Institute before hand which is more open intro and some onboarding as well | 16:09 |
| spotz | #topic Release Planning and Decisions | 16:09 |
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| spotz | that's you:) | 16:09 |
| evrardjp | yeah that's a big topic | 16:10 |
| evrardjp | at least today | 16:10 |
| evrardjp | let's start with the easy things | 16:10 |
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| cloudnull | re: sydney, I talked to robin from ansible the other day | 16:10 |
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| evrardjp | cloudnull: go ahead | 16:10 |
| cloudnull | they're planning an ansible day | 16:10 |
| cloudnull | it be good to contribute | 16:10 |
| evrardjp | oh great | 16:10 |
| evrardjp | yes indeed. Let's be present! | 16:11 |
| cloudnull | they're also going to do a couple talks/meetups | 16:11 |
| cloudnull | itd be good to participate there too | 16:11 |
| spotz | Definitely | 16:11 |
| evrardjp | thanks for the networking cloudnull! :D | 16:11 |
| cloudnull | I think they're still looking for folks to join pannels etc | 16:11 |
| evrardjp | if you know more, ping me. I will deal with it :) | 16:12 |
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| evrardjp | ok to go back to releases | 16:12 |
| prometheanfire | isn't she still around castle today? | 16:12 |
| evrardjp | I have submitted releases for Pike and Ocata, which are right now stuck in infra/releases limbo. I will track that to get a release soon | 16:13 |
| evrardjp | Newton will get the same treatment | 16:13 |
| evrardjp | this way we have aligned releases | 16:13 |
| prometheanfire | is this the last newton, or does osa have one more? | 16:13 |
| spotz | What are we going to do about newton-EOL, will that affect the COA as it uses our stuff | 16:13 |
| evrardjp | (I will come back to that later) | 16:13 |
| logan- | is the virt type fix in this ocata tag? | 16:14 |
| evrardjp | so, before that | 16:14 |
| evrardjp | P and O have will have a tag that includes libvirt qemu instead of kvm fix | 16:14 |
| evrardjp | however they won't have the centos fix you included logan- | 16:14 |
| logan- | ok | 16:15 |
| logan- | cool | 16:15 |
| evrardjp | I'd rather leave the patches as is, and if we consider it critical, bump directly in the integrated repo, this way it's included for next release for sure | 16:15 |
| evrardjp | the current "release" patches as is | 16:16 |
| evrardjp | so it brings me to the big topic I wanted to discuss about releases | 16:16 |
| evrardjp | How we will do releases in the future | 16:16 |
| evrardjp | In the future, we'll continue to have 2 week's release schedule | 16:16 |
| evrardjp | and we can continue to submit "emergency" releases in case of security issues | 16:17 |
| evrardjp | but I'd like this process to be straightforward for anyone | 16:17 |
| evrardjp | so I am cleaning the release process, in order for anyone to be able to submit a release. | 16:17 |
| evrardjp | This way, no bus factor or anything :p | 16:17 |
| evrardjp | In the future, the two week schedule should be aligned with the end of month | 16:18 |
| evrardjp | this way we'll always release before end of month, and people at the beggining of the month can consume a new OpenStack-Ansible | 16:19 |
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| evrardjp | There will still be room at the community meeting to discuss about the "end of month" release | 16:19 |
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| evrardjp | but these discussions should be fairly limited | 16:20 |
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| evrardjp | the idea behind all of that is: | 16:20 |
| evrardjp | - We have a fixed scheduled train, so we don't ask ourselves questions, it's simple, and no need to think about it | 16:20 |
| evrardjp | - We shouldn't even discuss it because everything is on rails :) | 16:21 |
| evrardjp | (toot toot) | 16:21 |
| hwoarang | hehe | 16:21 |
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| evrardjp | There would be sometimes exceptions to this 2 week release train, like next week for newton EOL | 16:21 |
| evrardjp | (or maybe it will be after next week) | 16:22 |
| hwoarang | sounds reasonable to me. so basically you propose some kind of 'automated' 2 week release unless something major blocks it | 16:22 |
| cloudnull | ++ that'd be great | 16:22 |
| evrardjp | no it's automated 2 week release train, let's not think about major blocking :) | 16:23 |
| evrardjp | but we can have extra ones | 16:23 |
| evrardjp | for special cases | 16:23 |
| evrardjp | (EOL, security) | 16:23 |
| evrardjp | but also simplified for everyone and documented | 16:23 |
| hwoarang | ok | 16:24 |
| evrardjp | we still need human intervention to qualify what a release is, because we are using semver, and we don't auto bump to a minor instead of a patch with our code | 16:25 |
| evrardjp | anyway, long story short, except mid month and end of month releases, and we discuss those EOM | 16:25 |
| hwoarang | ok | 16:26 |
| evrardjp | prometheanfire: so to answer your question, newton will still get one now, and we should have one when the other projects are EOL, to consume EOL projects. | 16:27 |
| odyssey4me | the reason for not doing that and for having the PTL do the release requests has been because the release process is manual and needs human judgment here and there | 16:27 |
| evrardjp | agreed | 16:27 |
| prometheanfire | evrardjp: cool | 16:27 |
| evrardjp | but that knowledge need to be spread | 16:27 |
| odyssey4me | if we make the scripts less clunky, more reliable, etc then we could probably just automate it | 16:27 |
| logan- | ++ sounds great | 16:27 |
| evrardjp | I am working on that already | 16:27 |
| evrardjp | simple functions, with a documentation that could go to our release guidelines | 16:28 |
| odyssey4me | sounds good | 16:28 |
| odyssey4me | don't work yourself to death ;) | 16:28 |
| evrardjp | technically only PTL and liaisons should request releases, but this way we have guidelines | 16:28 |
| logan- | i have a python thing that will bump ansible-role-requirements to the head of branches and maintain comments in the format we have like "HEAD of XXXX as of <date>" would be happy to share that evrardjp | 16:28 |
| evrardjp | odyssey4me: well in case of death, you'd have something that help you releasing :p | 16:28 |
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| evrardjp | we already have some in our code tree too logan-, but definitely worth checking with you | 16:29 |
| evrardjp | I think I quickly drafted this this morning though :p | 16:29 |
| evrardjp | let's move to another topic :) | 16:29 |
| evrardjp | (but thanks logan- :) I will have a look! ) | 16:30 |
| logan- | sure | 16:30 |
| odyssey4me | logan- I think you may have meant to refer to the git sources for the service projects, not a-r-r ? | 16:31 |
| logan- | both odyssey4me | 16:31 |
| odyssey4me | oh neat | 16:31 |
| logan- | actually no, I don't think ti would support the service projects yet but it could be made to do so easily | 16:31 |
| odyssey4me | anything to replace my crufty bash script :p | 16:31 |
| cloudnull | yay crufty bash ! | 16:31 |
| evrardjp | odyssey4me: I already wrote something in python that is now handling ordered dict for YAML loading for easier reviews. Works already for A-R-R | 16:31 |
| logan- | #link https://gist.github.com/Logan2211/f8ad9a03502e69971d2eee96049719d7 | 16:32 |
| spotz | When newton goes EOL are they going to still be able to access it for the COA? | 16:32 |
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| spotz | #topic Blueprint work | 16:32 |
| * cloudnull a fan of cruft bash :D | 16:32 | |
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| evrardjp | spotz: yeah it's just becoming a tag instead of a branch | 16:32 |
| spotz | evrardjp: ok I'll give Anne a heads up | 16:32 |
| odyssey4me | spotz yes, it will still work for as long as the git repo exists | 16:32 |
| spotz | I figured it would but I know devstack and packstack break when EOL | 16:33 |
| spotz | Blueprints! | 16:33 |
| evrardjp | for blueprint work, I think there are 4 things that I find very important right now | 16:33 |
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| evrardjp | The first two are odyssey4me and cloudnull's | 16:34 |
| evrardjp | one for hyperconverged | 16:34 |
| cloudnull | i'd like to see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499882/ get in --cc jmccrory | 16:34 |
| evrardjp | and one (well two basically) to change the build process | 16:34 |
| evrardjp | cloudnull: on the hyper converged stuff, we need to make sure the periodics don't break ;) | 16:35 |
| evrardjp | I trust you! | 16:35 |
| evrardjp | I'd hate revert again... | 16:35 |
| cloudnull | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/476121/ -- is very interesting from a tech perspective | 16:35 |
| odyssey4me | from what I saw this morning, the periodics are still not quite there yet - upgrades are still busted | 16:35 |
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| evrardjp | only for ceph | 16:35 |
| cloudnull | evrardjp: I would not lie to you | 16:36 |
| cloudnull | :D | 16:36 |
| evrardjp | well we can discuss the false positives on openstack health dashboard another time :) | 16:36 |
| odyssey4me | evrardjp you may not have seen yet, but cloudnull has revised the spec with the promise to provide upgrade tooling to clean up the inventory | 16:36 |
| evrardjp | so cloudnull and odyssey4me if you need any help | 16:36 |
| evrardjp | just ping | 16:36 |
| cloudnull | yes i have | 16:36 |
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| odyssey4me | thanks for doing that cloudnull :) | 16:37 |
| evrardjp | yeah. I will review it as soon as possible | 16:37 |
| cloudnull | tyvm | 16:37 |
| evrardjp | I didn't see that | 16:37 |
| evrardjp | so thank you! | 16:37 |
| evrardjp | for the rest of the blueprints | 16:37 |
| evrardjp | there are a few interesting ones, like the ovs, the messaging changes but also the inventory cleaning and the uwsgi | 16:38 |
| odyssey4me | I looked through the specs repo this morning - it looked like some needed an update after the PTG... and for the sake of my own sanity I'm staying away from the networking ones. :p | 16:38 |
| evrardjp | I didn't got the chance to work on uwsgi | 16:38 |
| evrardjp | haha | 16:39 |
| evrardjp | ok | 16:39 |
| evrardjp | well like I said, for this cycle, you two have prio | 16:39 |
| odyssey4me | whoh agreed to put together that uwsgi/load balancing spec? was it jmccrory and logan- ? | 16:39 |
| spotz | 20 minute warning with only open discussion left | 16:39 |
| evrardjp | jmccrory: logan- and I | 16:39 |
| evrardjp | will be working on that | 16:39 |
| evrardjp | but anyone free to join :) | 16:39 |
| evrardjp | a quick update for the inventory cleaning work | 16:40 |
| odyssey4me | ah ok, that'll be interesting although not entirely essential - I think cloudnull might be ineterested to know more about it though so get the spec up soon :) | 16:40 |
| jmccrory | think andymccr's spec for initial uwsgi+nginx may still be out there, some of that could probably be split out to start this new one | 16:40 |
| evrardjp | I'd rather work on the priorities right now, but yes if logan- or jmccrory could spend some cycles on uwsgi fast router that would be great | 16:41 |
| evrardjp | (according to what we said @ the PTG) | 16:41 |
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| odyssey4me | hmm, that's weird - nothing published since newton apparently: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-ansible-specs/ | 16:42 |
| evrardjp | what we've said at the ptg was discussing the position of LB + uwsgi for "new kind" of apps, and still remain with "old kind" if need be. So we'd need a new spec | 16:42 |
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| evrardjp | I am only checking on https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-specs :D | 16:43 |
| spotz | ok email heads up sent to Anne at the foundation | 16:43 |
| logan- | yeah my focus was more on replacing our haproxy role with something less rigid. i don't know much about the uwsgi stuff | 16:44 |
| evrardjp | jmccrory: FYI I didn't got the chance to push changes since our last convo about the inventory. But It's very cleanable, and we are close to have an ansible ready static inventory that's generated from our thing. | 16:44 |
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| evrardjp | logan-: that's great and that's completely appropriate! | 16:45 |
| evrardjp | I heard ppl hoping for that | 16:45 |
| evrardjp | anyone has something to ask about specs? | 16:45 |
| evrardjp | Or to raise? | 16:45 |
| odyssey4me | I have something to raise, but it's not related to specs - more open discussion. | 16:46 |
| evrardjp | odyssey4me: I will not chase this web page. It's not easy to find by contributors anyway :p | 16:46 |
| evrardjp | ok | 16:46 |
| evrardjp | let's move to that topic then! | 16:46 |
| evrardjp | #topic open discussion | 16:46 |
| odyssey4me | evrardjp no worries, it looks like the specs pages for other projects are fine so it's likely our job broken or something - I'll check it out | 16:46 |
| spotz | #topic open discussion | 16:46 |
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| spotz | *phhbts* | 16:46 |
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| odyssey4me | :) | 16:47 |
| evrardjp | :) | 16:47 |
| odyssey4me | alrighty - I've sent http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-September/122794.html to the ML related to a little thing I'm doing on the side to try and cut down some of our tech debt | 16:47 |
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| odyssey4me | I'm hoping we get a more positive response from the packagers than previously. | 16:47 |
| evrardjp | oh yes it had an impact on release's toolkit :D | 16:47 |
| odyssey4me | So far the RDO crew via reviews have been very welcoming. | 16:48 |
| evrardjp | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-September/122794.html | 16:48 |
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| evrardjp | I love the effort | 16:48 |
| evrardjp | thank you | 16:48 |
| spotz | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-September/122794.html | 16:48 |
| spotz | ok no diff:) | 16:49 |
| odyssey4me | looks like gerritbot might be broken or something | 16:49 |
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| spotz | :( | 16:49 |
| odyssey4me | anyway, I thought I'd just raise it as a heads-up | 16:49 |
| odyssey4me | the hope I have is that we can kill templates and the git sourcing and keep it simpler | 16:50 |
| odyssey4me | if we can't do that, then the build process for packages is going to have to carry it, which isn't nice | 16:50 |
| evrardjp | but I don't understand how you want to do that, like template it at the destination? | 16:50 |
| evrardjp | or a push pull mechanism? | 16:51 |
| evrardjp | pull/push* | 16:51 |
| evrardjp | but I like the idea of having it uniform and not in three | 16:51 |
| evrardjp | tree* | 16:51 |
| evrardjp | so thanks! | 16:51 |
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| spotz | 8 minute warning | 16:52 |
| logan- | thanks odyssey4me | 16:52 |
| evrardjp | On open discussion I have something to add, I have made a ics (google agenda) with what will happen in this cycle for OSA that's not already in the standard dev calendar | 16:52 |
| logan- | nice to see many projects are merging it | 16:52 |
| odyssey4me | yeah, not sure yet - those details can be figured out once we have the upstream stuff done | 16:52 |
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| evrardjp | odyssey4me: if we build on localhost problem is solved :p | 16:53 |
| odyssey4me | evrardjp not entirely | 16:53 |
| evrardjp | I know ;) | 16:53 |
| odyssey4me | if it's not in the wheel we're forced to git clone - if it's in the wheel, no git clone needed :) | 16:53 |
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| evrardjp | ok on another topic | 16:55 |
| evrardjp | I will appoint liaisons soon, I will send a series of mails next week | 16:55 |
| spotz | 5 minute warning:) | 16:55 |
| evrardjp | if you're interested by taking more work, ping me anytime :D | 16:56 |
| odyssey4me | alright, nothing more from me - I'm hoping to find some time to get cracking on revising a role or two based on the specs now that they're merged | 16:56 |
| odyssey4me | any thoughts on milestones we'd like to see major changes stop at ? | 16:56 |
| odyssey4me | M3? | 16:57 |
| evrardjp | I've said a lot today, I'm good | 16:57 |
| odyssey4me | or RC1? | 16:57 |
| evrardjp | it's m3 according to agenda I think | 16:57 |
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| odyssey4me | yes, the standard upstream schedule puts feature freeze at M3 | 16:57 |
| evrardjp | but before m3 it's packed with small breaking updates too , so let's play it by ear. | 16:57 |
| evrardjp | Let's focus on m3 | 16:57 |
| spotz | 2 minutes:) We haven't run this long in ages:) | 16:58 |
| evrardjp | https://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ansible/latest/contributor/contribute.html#development-cycle-checklist | 16:58 |
| odyssey4me | are we holding back on major changes up to M1 to allow easier backports, or are we going ahead straight away? | 16:58 |
| evrardjp | Because M1 is kinda nice and easy for us, we could move our deliverables from M2 into M1 then do these massive changes | 16:59 |
| spotz | 1 minute | 16:59 |
| evrardjp | but I don't think this should be an objection on your 2 big specs odyssey4me and cloudnull | 16:59 |
| dianyu | Hi, I recently hit an error when launch instance on horizon as following: Error: No sql_connection parameter is established with newest networking master and devstack stable/pike. Anyone met the similar problem? | 17:00 |
| LouisF | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:00 |
| openstack | LouisF: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 17:00 |
| odyssey4me | I'd suggest moving all the M2 stuff to M1, and make M2's goal to be features like M3 | 17:00 |
| evrardjp | let's wrap up! | 17:00 |
| spotz | Times up gang | 17:00 |
| spotz | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
| evrardjp | odyssey4me: agreed | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 28 17:00:22 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2017/openstack_ansible_meeting.2017-09-28-16.01.html | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2017/openstack_ansible_meeting.2017-09-28-16.01.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2017/openstack_ansible_meeting.2017-09-28-16.01.log.html | 17:00 |
| spotz | Sorry LouisF | 17:00 |
| spotz | all yours | 17:00 |
| LouisF | spotz: thx | 17:00 |
| LouisF | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 28 17:00:41 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is LouisF. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining' | 17:00 |
| LouisF | #topic agenda | 17:01 |
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| LouisF | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ServiceFunctionChainingMeeting | 17:01 |
| vks1 | hi all | 17:02 |
| igordc | hi | 17:02 |
| dianyu | hi | 17:02 |
| LouisF | hi all | 17:02 |
| bcafarel | hello | 17:02 |
| LouisF | #topic API reference | 17:03 |
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| LouisF | pcarver: what is status? | 17:03 |
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| LouisF | #topic Tap SF | 17:04 |
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| LouisF | vks1: what is status? | 17:04 |
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| vks1 | LouisF: I have debugged the test case with extension. it's failing | 17:05 |
| vks1 | talked with amotoki, he said we should do in 2nd week of oct | 17:05 |
| vks1 | he is on vacation | 17:05 |
| LouisF | vks1: ok thanks | 17:05 |
| LouisF | #topic SFC graph | 17:06 |
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| LouisF | igordc: how is SFC graph progressing? | 17:06 |
| bcafarel | I saw a few W+1 here | 17:06 |
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| LouisF | bcafarel: yes i expect this will merge soon | 17:07 |
| bcafarel | nice | 17:07 |
| LouisF | ok moving on | 17:08 |
| igordc | yep just waiting for it to merge | 17:08 |
| vks1 | has anyone tried any extension in networking-sfc ? | 17:08 |
| bcafarel | that means we should start reviewing the NSH patch then? | 17:08 |
| LouisF | igordc: thanks | 17:08 |
| LouisF | bcafarel: yes that is next item | 17:08 |
| LouisF | #topic NSH work | 17:08 |
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| bcafarel | :) | 17:09 |
| csun | Which version of OVS includes NSH support? | 17:09 |
| LouisF | all please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/373465/ | 17:09 |
| igordc | csun: 2.8, if you use the userspace datapath | 17:09 |
| csun | I see, thinks. | 17:09 |
| LouisF | we should get ovs with nsh tested to make sure in is in queens | 17:10 |
| bcafarel | ack, will try to take a look at it next week | 17:11 |
| LouisF | bcafarel: thanks | 17:11 |
| igordc | thanks bcafarel | 17:11 |
| igordc | we need to find a nice way of generating nsh packets | 17:11 |
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| igordc | tho for the networking-sfc esting of it, OVS itself can be the one | 17:12 |
| csun | igordc: Do you have a good example of how to generate nsh packets? | 17:12 |
| LouisF | igordc: if nsh encap is specified the ingress classifier should generate nsh packets - right? | 17:12 |
| igordc | and the SFs can also be running OVS+NSH simply decrementing the index and giving the traffic back | 17:13 |
| igordc | LouisF: yes exactly;, <-- csun this | 17:13 |
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| LouisF | igordc: nsh-aware sfs is another issue | 17:13 |
| LouisF | does your implementation support nsh-aware SFs? | 17:14 |
| LouisF | or does it just implement proxy functionality? | 17:15 |
| igordc | LouisF: both | 17:15 |
| bcafarel | by setting correlation on the PPG I suppose? | 17:15 |
| igordc | LouisF: it will expect packets to come back with a decremented SI | 17:15 |
| LouisF | igordc: how are you testing nsh-aware SFs? | 17:15 |
| igordc | bcafarel: yeah | 17:15 |
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| igordc | LouisF: I'm not yet testing that... Daire started working on it during her placement but then it finished | 17:16 |
| csun | Any known issues with nsh support? I’d like to do some testing about the change. | 17:16 |
| igordc | LouisF: I'm not sure how much and if I will have time to do proper testing with the SFs | 17:16 |
| LouisF | igordc: i see that there will be a lot of interest from SF vendors | 17:16 |
| igordc | csun: would you like to test networking-sfc + nsh-aware VMs? | 17:17 |
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| csun | Yes, I’d like to give a try. | 17:17 |
| LouisF | csun: sounds like a good idea | 17:18 |
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| LouisF | csun: thanks | 17:18 |
| igordc | csun: cool cool, ping me if you need anything | 17:18 |
| igordc | csun: #networking-sfc | 17:18 |
| csun | igordc: I would definitely need your help. | 17:18 |
| igordc | csun: are you Ching Sun? | 17:19 |
| csun | igordc: Yes. | 17:20 |
| igordc | alright | 17:20 |
| LouisF | #topic Transparent SF | 17:21 |
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| LouisF | this work is progressing | 17:21 |
| LouisF | #topic OVN-SFC work | 17:22 |
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| LouisF | looks like John is not on the channel | 17:22 |
| LouisF | #topic other items | 17:23 |
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| dianyu | I have hitten an error when launch a new instance on Horizon as following: Error: No sql_connection parameter is established. Anyone has similar error or idea? | 17:23 |
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| LouisF | dianyu: is this on the master? | 17:24 |
| dianyu | with newest master networking-sfc and devstack stable/pike | 17:24 |
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| igordc | dianyu: use master devstack | 17:25 |
| LouisF | has anyone else encountered this? | 17:25 |
| csun | I encountered the same thing. | 17:26 |
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| LouisF | csun: on stable/pike? | 17:26 |
| csun | I am using stable/pike devstack. | 17:26 |
| csun | master networking-sfc | 17:26 |
| bcafarel | it may be some leftover installed packages from stable/pike run | 17:26 |
| dianyu | igordc: will try | 17:27 |
| bcafarel | with everything on master I restacked 2-3 days ago and VMS booted fine | 17:27 |
| csun | I will try to use master devstack today. | 17:27 |
| LouisF | igordc: thanks | 17:27 |
| LouisF | dianyu: can you try that | 17:28 |
| dianyu | LouisF: yes, definitely | 17:28 |
| LouisF | dianyu: thanks | 17:28 |
| bcafarel | other topic, I chatted a bit with other people on split tempest plugins ( https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/queens/split-tempest-plugins.html ) | 17:29 |
| LouisF | ok, any other items to discuss? | 17:29 |
| bcafarel | we are indeed expected to be in the "migration done" list :) | 17:29 |
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| bcafarel | I can take a look (it should mostly be splitting git history and repo gates configuration) | 17:29 |
| LouisF | bcafarel: that would be great, thanks | 17:30 |
| LouisF | ok, anything else? | 17:30 |
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| LouisF | ok thanks all | 17:31 |
| LouisF | bye all | 17:31 |
| dianyu | thanks everyone | 17:31 |
| csun | bye all | 17:31 |
| bcafarel | thanks, and bye! | 17:31 |
| igordc | bye all | 17:31 |
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| LouisF | #endmeeting | 17:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 28 17:31:57 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2017/service_chaining.2017-09-28-17.00.html | 17:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2017/service_chaining.2017-09-28-17.00.txt | 17:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2017/service_chaining.2017-09-28-17.00.log.html | 17:32 |
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