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| ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 08:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 21 08:00:43 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 08:00 |
| ifat_afek | Hi :-) | 08:00 |
| eyalb | \o/ | 08:00 |
| yujunz | Hi | 08:00 |
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| annarez | Hi :) | 08:02 |
| idan_hefetz | Hi | 08:02 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Status and Updates | 08:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status and Updates (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:03 | |
| idankin | Hi | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | Reminder: Sydney CFP is open | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/call-for-presentations/ | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | Feel free to add your ideas to the etherpad below. The CFP deadline is July 14th. | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vitrage-sydney-cpf | 08:04 |
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| ifat_afek | For now what we had in mind is a vitrage project updates session (as we had in Boston), an advanced use cases session, and the hands-on lab again | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | More ideas are welcome | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | Last week was the OPNFV Summit in Beijing. I don’t have any update regarding that. | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | yujunz, dwj: was there anything interesting? | 08:05 |
| yujunz | I have some updates from doctor project | 08:06 |
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| yujunz | We did some experimental improvement about notification time performance | 08:06 |
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| yujunz | By replacing nova reset-state with a direct notification to consumer | 08:07 |
| yujunz | #link https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1thwtzSLSDcfZsRvDWnZmEFipux9RzQPPyjLLN7BXOOs/edit | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | Thanks for the link, I’ll go over it after the meeting | 08:08 |
| ifat_afek | The consumer is a VNFM? | 08:08 |
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| yujunz | Could be. Or application manager if in a more general concept | 08:09 |
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| danoffek | Hi guys | 08:09 |
| yujunz | The one who cares about the resource status and do the active/standby switch | 08:09 |
| yujunz | The results is from sample inspector and congress, it could be quite interesting to see how vitrage performance in this part | 08:10 |
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| ifat_afek | Of course | 08:10 |
| yujunz | And we tried to use osprofiler to reveal the details | 08:11 |
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| ifat_afek | I need to finish adding Vitrage to the Doctor test (I guess I will need to refactor my existing change, since many changes were made in the tests). Then I’ll be happy to do the performance tests for Vitrage | 08:11 |
| Alon | Hi :) | 08:11 |
| yujunz | But met some limitation on asynchronous operation such as event notification | 08:11 |
| ifat_afek | Where did you use the osprofiler? in which project(s)? | 08:12 |
| yujunz | Some details in slide 25 | 08:12 |
| yujunz | Plus the sample inspector and monitor | 08:12 |
| ifat_afek | What does a star stand for? | 08:13 |
| yujunz | tick for supported, start for needed :-) | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | :-) | 08:13 |
| yujunz | As written in title | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | That’s very interesting, I’ll be happy to add Vitrage to the tests | 08:13 |
| yujunz | That's the basic content about the presentation. | 08:14 |
| ifat_afek | Thanks for the update. Was there something interesting in the design sessions? | 08:14 |
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| yujunz | #link https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/doctor-profiler | 08:15 |
| yujunz | The etherpad page of the discussion for profiling | 08:15 |
| ifat_afek | Thanks! | 08:15 |
| yujunz | #link https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/doctor-maintenance | 08:16 |
| yujunz | #link https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/doctor-python | 08:16 |
| yujunz | Some other things discussed, but not highly related to vitrage | 08:16 |
| ifat_afek | I’ll go over it, thanks for the links | 08:17 |
| yujunz | I didn't attend the other two, you may ask tomi or dwj for details if anything unclear :-) | 08:17 |
| ifat_afek | Ok :-) | 08:18 |
| dwj | Nothing special from my side, just continue to work the refactoring with python. | 08:18 |
| ifat_afek | Does it mean refactoring the tests? | 08:18 |
| dwj | Yes, test script | 08:18 |
| ifat_afek | Ok, so I’ll talk with you when I’ll get back to working on the Vitrage script | 08:19 |
| ifat_afek | Too bad I didn’t finish it back then, I guess… | 08:20 |
| dwj | with pleasure. :) | 08:20 |
| ifat_afek | Thanks! | 08:20 |
| ifat_afek | So here is my update: I started implementing the external actions spec, as a first step to support the integration with Mistral | 08:20 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/vitrage/+spec/support-external-actions | 08:21 |
| ifat_afek | I’m almost done with the first stage, of adding an execute_mistral action in the template, and converting it to a general-purpose ExecuteExternal action in the code. The ExecuteExternal action can later on be used for an integration with Congress for example | 08:22 |
| ifat_afek | I also did some refactoring in the template validation code, so it will be easier to add external actions validations | 08:22 |
| ifat_afek | I will push this change before I continue to the actual execution phase (of calling the Mistral notifier) | 08:22 |
| eyalb | +1 for that | 08:23 |
| ifat_afek | That’s it for me | 08:23 |
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| eyalb | i will update | 08:23 |
| eyalb | pushed two patches to gerrit | 08:23 |
| eyalb | one for client and one for server | 08:23 |
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| eyalb | to support different kind of authentication types | 08:24 |
| eyalb | first stage is to be able to work with vitrage without authentication i.e. without keystone | 08:25 |
| eyalb | use will configure the auth_mode to be noauth in vitrage | 08:25 |
| eyalb | and will use the client with the noauth plugin | 08:25 |
| eyalb | which will ask for an endpoint , user and project id | 08:26 |
| eyalb | when connecting to vitrage | 08:26 |
| yujunz | What is `noauth` for? Just for development purpose or there is also use case in production? | 08:26 |
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| eyalb | second phase i will implement a keycloak plugin to use instead of keystone | 08:26 |
| eyalb | you can use noauth for testing | 08:27 |
| eyalb | and if you want to use it in your own project and you dont want to use keystone or any other authentication | 08:27 |
| eyalb | I a also added some api test for the vitrage api | 08:28 |
| eyalb | and did some refactoring of old code | 08:28 |
| eyalb | and added a healthcheck option for vitrage which will return 200 ok when calling with /healthcheck url | 08:29 |
| ifat_afek | Cool | 08:29 |
| ifat_afek | Who is calling the healthcheck? | 08:29 |
| eyalb | this ca be used in load balancers | 08:29 |
| eyalb | no one at the moment | 08:29 |
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| eyalb | but if you have an ha proxy or zabbix that wants to check the api you can use ir | 08:30 |
| eyalb | it only retruns 200 ok to see that its alive | 08:30 |
| eyalb | its a feature added by oslo middleware that other projects use | 08:31 |
| eyalb | please review the changes | 08:31 |
| eyalb | thats all | 08:31 |
| ifat_afek | Ok, I’ll review. Thanks! | 08:31 |
| yujunz | Does it reflects the living status of api server? Or it does the healthy checks on other services such as listener, graph and etc? | 08:32 |
| ifat_afek | yujunz: we got some requirements to use Vitrage in a non-openstack environment. Since it is architectured in a pluggable way, you can connect different datasources and the engine should work the same. This is one motivation for eyalb’s change | 08:33 |
| ifat_afek | Of course, the main use cases of Vitrage are still openstack | 08:33 |
| eyalb | just that the api is healthy ie the web server is alive | 08:33 |
| eyalb | you can probably extend it to check the other backends | 08:33 |
| yujunz | I see. Thanks eyalb | 08:34 |
| eyalb | it has a detail option which is off at the moment | 08:34 |
| eyalb | where you can give more information on the health status | 08:35 |
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| eyalb | #link https://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.middleware/healthcheck_plugins.html | 08:35 |
| yujunz | ifat_afek I assume you were answering my question on 'noauth', not 'healthcheck'. Yes, that would be useful for non-openstack usage. | 08:35 |
| ifat_afek | Right | 08:35 |
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| ifat_afek | Anything else on that issue? | 08:38 |
| yujunz | No more from my side | 08:38 |
| eyalb | nope | 08:38 |
| danoffek | I'll update | 08:38 |
| danoffek | On the Northbound interface / rest notifications. | 08:38 |
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| danoffek | Aside from the notifications spec which I pushed last week, I pushed a "registration" spec for the http post notification's address / credentials / regex | 08:39 |
| danoffek | Since I need DB, same as Alosha and probably a few other developers, I'm working on a requirements spec for sqlalchemy / db requirements / other for first / second stage development | 08:40 |
| eyalb | we will need it also for CRUD templates | 08:41 |
| danoffek | Yup | 08:41 |
| danoffek | That doesn't mean that SQLAlchemy isn't currently developed in parallel by other team member(s) that might update in this IRC | 08:41 |
| danoffek | That's it | 08:41 |
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| eyalb | you should look at other openstack projects that use sqlalchemy and see what is best | 08:42 |
| alexey_weyl | I will update | 08:42 |
| danoffek | I went over AODH / Heat / Nova, and my requirements are adapted accordingly | 08:42 |
| danoffek | I'm a strong believer on copy paste from good sources | 08:43 |
| ifat_afek | +1 | 08:43 |
| alexey_weyl | I will update | 08:43 |
| alexey_weyl | I have a several updates | 08:43 |
| danoffek | "a" or "several" ? | 08:43 |
| alexey_weyl | 1. I have opened a new linux service called the collector which will be responsible for collecting the data from the datasources | 08:44 |
| alexey_weyl | it will now use the rabbitmq to push the data to the processor | 08:44 |
| alexey_weyl | instead of using the multiprocessing queue | 08:45 |
| alexey_weyl | The reason we have done that is because of the HA vision | 08:45 |
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| alexey_weyl | 2. I have started to work on the Persistent Service which will be responsible to push the events to the Database | 08:46 |
| alexey_weyl | and also remove old events and snapshots | 08:46 |
| yujunz | Wow, what is the database backend for the moment? | 08:46 |
| yujunz | Already integrated? | 08:46 |
| alexey_weyl | The snapshot thread (oslo service) will run in the processor service because it needs to read the whole graph | 08:46 |
| alexey_weyl | it will be done by exporting the graph to a json using the networkx export and then push it to the db as a blob and then retrieve it from there when needed | 08:47 |
| ifat_afek | yujunz: I have written an “HA vision” document which is still under review, you are welcome to read (and comment) | 08:47 |
| alexey_weyl | 3. One of the things that are missing is the DB API that we don't have at the moment | 08:47 |
| alexey_weyl | Danny has talked about it a bit | 08:48 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455065/ | 08:48 |
| alexey_weyl | I have already started working on it, because we need it ASAP | 08:48 |
| alexey_weyl | yujunz: the database backend is what ever you have in the openstack/devstack | 08:49 |
| alexey_weyl | meaning mysql/postgres | 08:49 |
| alexey_weyl | We are using the new datamodel for history that we talked about in the HA vision | 08:49 |
| alexey_weyl | which is to use the event sourcing | 08:49 |
| alexey_weyl | it is all explained in the HA vision that Ifat has wrote | 08:50 |
| alexey_weyl | thats it for now | 08:50 |
| yujunz | OK I'll review it after meeting. | 08:51 |
| danoffek | Yujun, | 08:51 |
| yujunz | yes? | 08:51 |
| danoffek | You'll of course need to configure basic parameters in vitrag.conf, same as any other project | 08:51 |
| danoffek | For example : | 08:51 |
| danoffek | connection = mysql://root:pass@127.0.0.1:8999/vitrage | 08:52 |
| danoffek | mysql_sql_mode = TRADITIONAL | 08:52 |
| danoffek | idle_timeout = 3600 | 08:52 |
| danoffek | min_pool_size = 1 | 08:52 |
| danoffek | And so on.... | 08:53 |
| danoffek | It's done in heat, aodh, and other. | 08:53 |
| yujunz | Thanks danoffek | 08:53 |
| danoffek | The SQLAlchemy implementation is already being written by Alosho. | 08:53 |
| danoffek | Alosha | 08:53 |
| annarez | I will update now | 08:54 |
| annarez | I am working on the machine learning feature | 08:54 |
| annarez | I am working on the machine learning feature | 08:54 |
| annarez | As a first step, it will be able to find correlations between alarms in order to help to build new templates, based on this information | 08:54 |
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| annarez | I hope I will finish this step soon, it's almost finished already | 08:54 |
| annarez | In the future this tool should be able to identify causation between alarms, not only correlation, and maybe also build templates automatically | 08:54 |
| annarez | But it will take some time till that happens | 08:55 |
| ifat_afek | Great, thanks | 08:55 |
| annarez | thats all | 08:56 |
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| ifat_afek | An another update: I know that idan_hefetz did some performance improvements. But he is not here at the moment to update | 08:57 |
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| ifat_afek | Anything else? it was a long meeting ;-) | 08:57 |
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| yujunz | nope | 08:58 |
| danoffek | bye | 08:58 |
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| ifat_afek | Bye | 08:58 |
| eyalb | bye | 08:58 |
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| annarez | bye | 08:58 |
| alexey_weyl | bye bye | 08:58 |
| ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 08:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 21 08:59:04 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-06-21-08.00.html | 08:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-06-21-08.00.txt | 08:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-06-21-08.00.log.html | 08:59 |
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| alex_xu | #startmeeting nova api | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 21 13:00:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova api)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_api' | 13:00 |
| alex_xu | who is here today? | 13:00 |
| gmann_ | o/ | 13:00 |
| mriedem | o/ for about 15 minutes | 13:00 |
| alex_xu | sdague: are you around for api meeting? | 13:00 |
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| alex_xu | ok, looks like just three of us | 13:01 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: we can talk your item directly | 13:01 |
| mriedem | ok i need to find the link | 13:02 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391941/ | 13:02 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: ^ here is | 13:02 |
| mriedem | yeah, | 13:02 |
| mriedem | so that's part of the series for allowing tags when attaching volumes and interfaces | 13:02 |
| mriedem | that patch is currently checking to see if the user is trying to attach a volume to a shelved offloaded instance with a tag and if so, it fails | 13:03 |
| mriedem | if the instance is not shelved offloaded, we make an rpc call to the compute to reserve the block device name, and as part of that check on the compute it's checking a capabilities flag for the virt driver to see if it supports tagged attach | 13:03 |
| mriedem | since in the case of shelved offloaded instances there isn't a compute host, we can't do that rpc call so artom decided to not support it | 13:03 |
| Kevin_Zheng | o/ | 13:04 |
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| mriedem | now, i think we could support attaching a volume with a tag to a shelved offloaded instances, the tag wouldn't be applied until we prep block devices during unshelve - which is similar to how we handle tagged bdms during normal server create | 13:04 |
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| mriedem | the main difference with unshelve and normal server create, if the driver doesn't support tagged devices, is that with server create, the instance goes to ERROR state and the build is aborted, | 13:05 |
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| mriedem | with unshelve, we don't put the instance into error state. we'll record a fault but that's it. | 13:05 |
| mriedem | so it's less obvious that something went wrong when you tried unshelving | 13:05 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: yea, probably a record in instance-action | 13:05 |
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| mriedem | i really don't like shelve as an operation | 13:06 |
| artom | Wasn't alex_xu saying that we rollback the instance to offloaded? | 13:06 |
| mriedem | it's incomplete | 13:06 |
| artom | That way it's obvious something went wrong | 13:06 |
| artom | Since your VM isn't active | 13:06 |
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| artom | But you'd still have to go look in instance_actions | 13:06 |
| mriedem | artom: no, the vm state doesn't change until unshelve is successful | 13:06 |
| mriedem | the task state changes, but it's reverted to None on failure | 13:06 |
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| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/manager.py#L4548 | 13:07 |
| * artom tries to think of precedent | 13:07 | |
| alex_xu | mriedem: what do mean about doesn't like shevle as an operation? | 13:07 |
| artom | What happens if we attach a volume to an offloaded instance, then delete the volume and attempt unshelving? | 13:07 |
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| artom | Does it just silently unshelve without the volume? | 13:08 |
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| mriedem | artom: you can detach the volume and the bdm is deleted | 13:08 |
| mriedem | in the api | 13:08 |
| gmann_ | mriedem: alex_xu artom if people tagged device on shelve offload it means they know it is supported or not so unshelve should be either error(if no tagging supported) or successful (if it is) | 13:08 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: shelve is a weird api with bugs | 13:08 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: like if unshelve fails, we don't cleanup volume connections on the host | 13:09 |
| mriedem | probably similar for vifs | 13:09 |
| mriedem | gmann_: the problem with putting the instance in error state is the user can't attempt to unshelve it again, | 13:09 |
| mriedem | without the admin resetting the state | 13:09 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: will we fix the shelve API in the future? | 13:09 |
| artom | gmann_, assuming a hybrid cloud with some virt drivers that support tagged attach and some that don't, we don't know whether the particular host on which the unshelved instance will end up will support tagged attach | 13:09 |
| alex_xu | or expect to deprecate the API | 13:09 |
| artom | gmann_, so that error can only happen at unshelve-time, not at attach-time | 13:09 |
| gmann_ | humm | 13:10 |
| mriedem | it might be possible to put the instance on a host via some aggregate metadata for the shelved image, but i'm not sure - it's a mess | 13:10 |
| artom | gmann_, or more implementation-wise, it's a cast to the compute manager, not a call, so we have to way to get an error back to the user | 13:10 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: i don't know if we'll deprecate it, that's kind of the issue i'm struggling with, | 13:10 |
| artom | *no way | 13:10 |
| mriedem | do we pile more feature complexity into an already semi broken API | 13:11 |
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| artom | Do we have number on how often people use it? | 13:11 |
| mriedem | no idea | 13:11 |
| mriedem | the other side of this is, | 13:11 |
| artom | I guess if bugs are reported in it frequently it's used *somewhere* | 13:11 |
| mriedem | is if i'm an api user and can attach a volume to a shelved offloaded instance, and can attach a volume with a tag to a normal running instance, is it reasonable for me to expect that i can attach a volume with a tag to a shelved offloaded instance? | 13:12 |
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| mriedem | from an end user point of view, it seems like an odd restriction | 13:12 |
| alex_xu | yea | 13:12 |
| artom | This could technically all be fixed if the virt driver becomes a resource provider with traits | 13:13 |
| alex_xu | if we stop to enable new features on the unshelve API, that sounds like we give up the API :) | 13:13 |
| artom | Instead of capabilities | 13:13 |
| artom | So the scheduler would know not to put instance with certain features on hosts that don't support them | 13:13 |
| artom | But that's *waay* off in the future | 13:13 |
| gmann_ | mriedem: you mean cannot attach volume with tag on shelve offload right? | 13:14 |
| mriedem | gmann_: that's what is currently written in artom's patch | 13:14 |
| gmann_ | yea | 13:14 |
| sfinucan | o/ | 13:14 |
| mriedem | so i don't have a good answer, or a strong opinion either way. i feel like i'll be unhappy about either direction. :) | 13:15 |
| * sfinucan would love to kill shelve - it's caused him much pain in the past also | 13:15 | |
| mriedem | yes i also really dislike shelve | 13:15 |
| sfinucan | (and it seems to be only RAX that care(d?), fwict) | 13:15 |
| sfinucan | but I digress | 13:15 |
| artom | I understand the breaking expectations aspect... | 13:15 |
| alex_xu | I only clearly to know I'm on the side not set the instance to error state if we plan to support tag on a shelve offload instance | 13:15 |
| artom | But wouldn't a workaround be to unshelve first, *then* do the tagged attach? | 13:16 |
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| gmann_ | for me, behaving like same as boot instance can be consistent by considering that user did operation waht can cause xyz behaviour | 13:16 |
| gmann_ | and we document that risk of tagging on shelve offload instance clearly | 13:16 |
| mriedem | artom: you could, but i assume people wanted to be able to attach a volume to a shelved offloaded instance for a reason | 13:16 |
| mriedem | artom: also, if you did that, the tag wouldn't get in the config drive | 13:16 |
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| artom | mriedem, tagged attach already discounted the config drive | 13:17 |
| artom | So it's not a huge stretch | 13:17 |
| mriedem | artom: for unshelve it's a new spawn, | 13:17 |
| mriedem | new guest, | 13:17 |
| mriedem | so you'd have a new config drive | 13:17 |
| artom | I get that | 13:17 |
| artom | But from an API pov, it's the tagged attachment | 13:17 |
| mriedem | i'm not following you | 13:18 |
| artom | And we're already saying tagged attach doesn't update the config drive | 13:18 |
| mriedem | except it would when unshelving, if we allowed that | 13:18 |
| artom | So tagged attach to a shelved instance can also not update the config drive, and we're staying consistent in our message | 13:18 |
| mriedem | sure it's not an 'update', | 13:18 |
| mriedem | we'd be 'creating' config drive | 13:18 |
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| mriedem | but that's a pretty thin play on words | 13:19 |
| mriedem | you must have been a lawyer in a past life :) | 13:19 |
| artom | That reminds me of a thing my mom says, but that's neither here nor there | 13:19 |
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| mriedem | the other thing is we could land this now and add support for tagged attached to a shelved offloaded instance later if someone wanted that | 13:20 |
| mriedem | it pushes the decision to the future | 13:20 |
| mriedem | at the expense of weird conditions on the API behavior today | 13:20 |
| sfinucan | personally, I'd opt for that, so long as it's well documented | 13:21 |
| sfinucan | YAGNI, and all that | 13:21 |
| artom | See my comment about virt drivers become RPs with traits in the future :) | 13:21 |
| artom | Side-step that problem entirely by only scheduling instances on hosts that can support all their features | 13:21 |
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| mriedem | i don't know if we plan on putting traits on compute node resource providers with their driver capabilties | 13:22 |
| mriedem | would be a question for jaypipes | 13:22 |
| mriedem | but yeah i see it as an option, | 13:22 |
| mriedem | the request spec for unshelve could have a required trait | 13:22 |
| alex_xu | I remember that is part of capabilities API, not part of traits | 13:22 |
| alex_xu | of course, no progress on capabilities API... | 13:22 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: right, although the capabilities API is probably even further in the future since it does'nt have an owner or a plan | 13:22 |
| mriedem | jinx :) | 13:23 |
| artom | I don't know much about RPs/traits/caps api - it just sounded like a cool solution to our problem | 13:23 |
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| artom | It would also apply device tagging in general - ie, avoid the BuildAbort situation we currently have | 13:24 |
| artom | And probably a whole bunch of other things | 13:25 |
| mriedem | yes, i'll ask jay about it today | 13:25 |
| mriedem | so as much as i don't really like it, i'm ok with deferring support for tagged attach to shelved offloaded instances | 13:25 |
| mriedem | like i said, i don't like doing either | 13:25 |
| mriedem | alternatively, if all the virt drivers supported tagged devices we wouldn't have this issue as much | 13:26 |
| * artom finds he doesn't really prefer one option over the other, though he secretly hopes the consensus would be to keep whatever's currently written in place to save work ;) | 13:26 | |
| artom | mriedem, I don't see that happening | 13:26 |
| artom | Claudiu added tagging to hyperv | 13:26 |
| artom | xenapi has been in progress since Newton | 13:26 |
| artom | But nothing else | 13:27 |
| mriedem | the powervm guys are pretty on top of things, | 13:27 |
| mriedem | but i don't know if they can technically do it with their hypervisor, would have to ask | 13:27 |
| mriedem | as for vmware, i guess we'll ask cdent when he starts there in 2 weeks :) | 13:27 |
| alex_xu | wow, news | 13:27 |
| gmann_ | :) | 13:28 |
| alex_xu | :) | 13:28 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: gmann_: are you also ok with just restricting tagged attachments to non-shelved offloaded instances for now? | 13:28 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: i'm ok | 13:28 |
| gmann_ | mriedem: for now ok. | 13:29 |
| mriedem | ok let's go with that then | 13:29 |
| mriedem | thanks everyone, i've got to drop off now | 13:29 |
| sfinucan | o/ | 13:29 |
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| gmann_ | should we discuss that in spec with revised version? | 13:29 |
| artom | Thanks mriedem! | 13:29 |
| sfinucan | (that was goodbye wave) | 13:29 |
| artom | gmann_, I think so - I'll push a new revision addressing mriedem's feedback based on what we've decided here, and you guys can review | 13:30 |
| alex_xu | artom: cool | 13:30 |
| gmann_ | artom: nice, thanks. | 13:30 |
| alex_xu | ok, let us move on | 13:31 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bug/1693168 | 13:31 |
| alex_xu | thanks gmann_ for working on the fix | 13:31 |
| gmann_ | alex_xu: np! | 13:31 |
| alex_xu | I already +2, so sfinucan mriedem sdague ^ it is your turn :) | 13:31 |
| gmann_ | mriedem: sfinucan if you can check those | 13:31 |
| sfinucan | (y) | 13:32 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/api-no-more-extensions-pike | 13:32 |
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| gmann_ | alex_xu: i will push the follow up on quota keys refactoring, that was nice catch | 13:32 |
| alex_xu | gmann_: thanks | 13:32 |
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| gmann_ | alex_xu: i remember to do that for schema also not to import anything from object etc but need to check whether i fixed those or not | 13:33 |
| alex_xu | gmann_: sorry, I didn't get you | 13:33 |
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| gmann_ | alex_xu: like this #link https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/validation/parameter_types.py#L424 | 13:35 |
| gmann_ | alex_xu: if things changed on object.* it change the schema and very dangerous | 13:35 |
| gmann_ | alex_xu: we should have hard coded values on schema side | 13:35 |
| alex_xu | gmann_: yea | 13:36 |
| alex_xu | the API shoudn't bind with object | 13:36 |
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| gmann_ | ll fix those in this week, planned long time ago but always forget | 13:36 |
| alex_xu | gmann_: cool | 13:36 |
| alex_xu | for remove stevedore, when I work on extension_info and version API, I saw circular import.... | 13:37 |
| alex_xu | I hate that, but I didn't get a chance to find a good way to resolve that | 13:37 |
| gmann_ | alex_xu: oh, you have patch up? | 13:38 |
| alex_xu | gmann_: no, I gave up those change | 13:38 |
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| alex_xu | gmann_: think of maybe leave those two in the last, and try to remove the loaded_extension_info together, maybe get rid of those problem | 13:38 |
| gmann_ | alex_xu: ohk | 13:39 |
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| alex_xu | althought not sure that works, because I only can see a very strange error message, but let us see | 13:40 |
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| alex_xu | that is all I have | 13:41 |
| alex_xu | anymore more people want to bring up? | 13:41 |
| sfinucan | Nothing from me | 13:41 |
| gmann_ | nothing for me too | 13:41 |
| alex_xu | ok, thanks all! | 13:42 |
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| alex_xu | #endmeeting | 13:42 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 21 13:42:20 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-06-21-13.00.html | 13:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-06-21-13.00.txt | 13:42 |
| gmann_ | alex_xu: thanks | 13:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-06-21-13.00.log.html | 13:42 |
| sfinucan | o/ | 13:42 |
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| inc0 | #startmeeting kolla | 15:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 21 15:59:46 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is inc0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 15:59 |
| inc0 | #topic w00t for Kolla | 15:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "w00t for Kolla (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:59 | |
| inc0 | show of hands, make noise! | 16:00 |
| duonghq | w00t | 16:00 |
| duonghq | o/ | 16:00 |
| egonzalez | wOot! | 16:00 |
| berendt | woot/ | 16:00 |
| rwellum | WoOt | 16:00 |
| Jeffrey4l | woot | 16:00 |
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| jascott1 | woot | 16:00 |
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| pbourke | o/ | 16:01 |
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| vhosakot | o/ | 16:01 |
| spsurya_ | 0/ | 16:01 |
| vhosakot | S | 16:01 |
| vhosakot | I meant spsurya_ has a big head today :) | 16:01 |
| krtaylor | o/ | 16:02 |
| vhosakot | better than ./ | 16:02 |
| vhosakot | :) | 16:02 |
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| spsurya_ | vhosakot: will finish early | 16:02 |
| hrw | o/ | 16:02 |
| vhosakot | cool | 16:02 |
| spsurya_ | everything on earther pad | 16:02 |
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| mandre | woot | 16:03 |
| spsurya_ | w00t | 16:03 |
| inc0 | ok, it's going to be short meeting | 16:04 |
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| inc0 | #topic Announcements | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:04 | |
| inc0 | anyone? I have nothing | 16:04 |
| Jeffrey4l | 4.0.2 is release :) | 16:04 |
| inc0 | right, good point, speaking of which, we should push images;) | 16:04 |
| inc0 | or hold on | 16:05 |
| inc0 | and wait for automatic | 16:05 |
| Jeffrey4l | when and where the automatic will be landed? | 16:05 |
| spsurya_ | inc0: Jeffrey4l: pbourke thanks for vote | 16:05 |
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| inc0 | I'm kinda worried how many people uses our images from dockerhub without updates | 16:05 |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l: you know what? let's make this topic | 16:05 |
| inc0 | I'll give you all status | 16:05 |
| inc0 | so let's move on | 16:06 |
| Jeffrey4l | kolla cores please make vote for propose spsurya_ as cores ;) | 16:06 |
| inc0 | #topic Triaging of bugs for this week (spsurya) | 16:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Triaging of bugs for this week (spsurya) (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:06 | |
| spsurya_ | inc0: Jeffrey4l https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-bug-triage-week | 16:06 |
| spsurya_ | added the status of triaged on it | 16:06 |
| inc0 | thanks | 16:06 |
| spsurya_ | anyone want to pick to fix can take from here | 16:07 |
| spsurya_ | some of them i found invalid | 16:07 |
| spsurya_ | some are in progress | 16:07 |
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| spsurya_ | inc0: please update https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-bug-triage-week | 16:08 |
| inc0 | ok, if anyone have any time to spare, this is good way to do it | 16:08 |
| spsurya_ | inc0: anything to add or remove on this | 16:08 |
| spsurya_ | ? | 16:08 |
| rwellum | I might pick one up... | 16:08 |
| inc0 | let's move on | 16:08 |
| inc0 | thanks rwellum let me know if you need any help | 16:08 |
| rwellum | sure | 16:09 |
| inc0 | #topic Question - upstream a tool (or not)? rwellum | 16:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Question - upstream a tool (or not)? rwellum (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:09 | |
| inc0 | which tool is it?;) | 16:09 |
| rwellum | Thanks inc0 ! Simple question: I have written a tool to deploy kubernetes and then additionally kolla-kubernetes. I wrote it when going through the deployment guide process. This was before the shell-script and ansible playbook came about and now I've just continued to develop it. It's written in python, it handles multiple versions of all the tools we use, runs on both centos and ubuntu just fine and I added a | 16:09 |
| rwellum | 'demo' mode which walks the user through the whole process. Really just to help me and my teams at $$job. Anyway question is should I upstream it - or not? If there's no interest then I won't. Or upstream it and see what the interest is? | 16:09 |
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| inc0 | rwellum: funny, jascott1 wrote something similar;) | 16:10 |
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| rwellum | ansible though right? | 16:10 |
| inc0 | https://github.com/jascott1/arboreal/ | 16:10 |
| inc0 | yeah | 16:10 |
| inc0 | and terraform | 16:10 |
| rwellum | Yeah I like that hence my qn - do we need another tool? | 16:10 |
| inc0 | since you wrote it, sure | 16:10 |
| inc0 | or we can converge on single and put it in tree | 16:11 |
| inc0 | make it official:) | 16:11 |
| krtaylor | +1 | 16:11 |
| rwellum | Ok - I personally like jascott1 much better for an official tool but I'll upstream mine and see if it garners interest or not. | 16:11 |
| inc0 | rwellum: publish it somewhere and we'll compare | 16:11 |
| inc0 | maybe we'll take parts of your tool, put it into Arboreal and put it all in tree | 16:12 |
| rwellum | It's out on github already - so I can point folks to that | 16:12 |
| krtaylor | maybe someone would volunteer to do a comparison? | 16:12 |
| rwellum | Yeah good point. | 16:12 |
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| inc0 | I'll take a look | 16:12 |
| rwellum | https://github.com/RichWellum/k8s/blob/master/k8s.py | 16:13 |
| rwellum | Stupid name of course | 16:13 |
| rwellum | Thanks - that's it from me. | 16:13 |
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| inc0 | there are 2 hard things in computer science, caching and naming things | 16:13 |
| berendt | inc0: confirmed :) | 16:14 |
| inc0 | #topic Dockerfile publisher update | 16:14 |
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| inc0 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475469/ | 16:14 |
| inc0 | this is prototype | 16:14 |
| inc0 | I'm very close to finish it, maybe even today | 16:15 |
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| inc0 | that will handle build->test->publish to tarballs.o.o | 16:15 |
| inc0 | next step is pretty straightforward, pull from tarballs, retag, push to dockerhub | 16:15 |
| inc0 | I wrote small tool that will do this https://github.com/inc0/kolla_dockerhub_pusher | 16:16 |
| Jeffrey4l | so tag build will be pushed, right ? | 16:16 |
| inc0 | yes, today we'll have tag ocata, ocata-1 and master | 16:17 |
| inc0 | ocata-1 is autoincrement | 16:17 |
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| inc0 | later we can create 4.0.3 and 4.0.3-1 | 16:17 |
| inc0 | in fact, I think we should stop pushing manually asap because images will be stale | 16:18 |
| inc0 | and CVEs might be there | 16:18 |
| inc0 | and until we have automatic pushing with updates daily, point everyone to self building | 16:18 |
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| inc0 | questions? | 16:19 |
| inc0 | guess not:) | 16:20 |
| inc0 | ok, this is short meeting. | 16:20 |
| inc0 | #topic open discussion | 16:20 |
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| inc0 | can someone tag +w here? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/476178/ | 16:21 |
| inc0 | deploy gates in kolla needs fixing | 16:21 |
| mandre | done | 16:21 |
| inc0 | thanks:) | 16:21 |
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| inc0 | ok, thank you all for coming | 16:22 |
| mandre | hey, so I wanted to raise awareness on a series of changes I'm doing to set_configs.py | 16:22 |
| mandre | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:set_config_changes | 16:22 |
| mandre | this includes a bit of refactoring, and new options that are super useful in the case you have config files you've extracted from a running container | 16:22 |
| inc0 | kk, I'll review this | 16:23 |
| mandre | thanks :) | 16:23 |
| inc0 | anything else anyone | 16:23 |
| inc0 | ? | 16:23 |
| inc0 | ok, I'll give you 30min of your lives back:) have a great day/night everyone! | 16:24 |
| inc0 | #endmeeting kolla | 16:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:24 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 21 16:24:16 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-06-21-15.59.html | 16:24 |
| Jeffrey4l | mandre, set_permission is used. | 16:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-06-21-15.59.txt | 16:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-06-21-15.59.log.html | 16:24 |
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