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rosmaita | Courtesy meeting reminder on #openstack-meeting-4: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishek, bunting, dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat, aavraham, alex_bash | 13:59 |
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rosmaita | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 15 14:00:36 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
rosmaita | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
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rosmaita | hello everyone (anyone?) | 14:01 |
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abhishekk | o/ | 14:01 |
rosmaita | \o | 14:01 |
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jokke_ | o/ | 14:02 |
rosmaita | \o | 14:02 |
jokke_ | rosmaita: welcome back | 14:02 |
mfedosin | \o/ | 14:02 |
rosmaita | ty | 14:02 |
abhishekk | \o/ | 14:02 |
rosmaita | hi mike | 14:02 |
jokke_ | hopefully you had good break | 14:02 |
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rosmaita | had some quality time with the family, did some interviewing | 14:03 |
rosmaita | no news though | 14:03 |
rosmaita | ok, here's the link to the agenda (not much on it today): | 14:03 |
rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:03 |
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rosmaita | #topic updates | 14:03 |
*** openstack changes topic to "updates (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:03 | |
rosmaita | #topic updates - docs | 14:03 |
*** openstack changes topic to "updates - docs (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:03 | |
rosmaita | there's a proposal to move more docs into individual project repos | 14:04 |
rosmaita | as far as i can tell, it's just movement, no new writing requirements at this point | 14:04 |
rosmaita | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472275/ | 14:04 |
rosmaita | take a look if you're interested | 14:05 |
jokke_ | rosmaita: well it will put the maintenance burden to the individual projects 'though | 14:05 |
jokke_ | which kind of probably should have been there anyways | 14:05 |
rosmaita | yes, it will, but things were going in that direction anyway | 14:05 |
rosmaita | what you just said | 14:05 |
mfedosin | what's the main point of standalone repo for docs? | 14:05 |
mfedosin | this repos will somehow be treated differently? | 14:06 |
rosmaita | main point of the patch is working out a common structure for the doc part of the project repos | 14:06 |
rosmaita | mfedosin: sorry, i wasn't clear | 14:06 |
rosmaita | the user-facing docs will be moved over to the project repos | 14:06 |
rosmaita | some of this was maintained previously in a separate repo by the docs team | 14:06 |
rosmaita | main reason for the repo was to have easy +2, +A abilities for the docs team without giving them the same in a code repo | 14:07 |
mfedosin | ah, now I got it | 14:07 |
rosmaita | now, they'll only have +1 | 14:07 |
mfedosin | There seems to be no other choice | 14:07 |
rosmaita | but, now there are also fewer of them | 14:07 |
mfedosin | okay, I'll read the proposal | 14:08 |
rosmaita | thanks | 14:08 |
rosmaita | main impact on us may be some renaming and moving stuff around a bit inside the docs/ part of the project repos | 14:09 |
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rosmaita | also, iirc the patch mentions a cli-reference | 14:10 |
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rosmaita | but i'm now thinking that should be handled in the python-glanceclient repo, not the glance repo | 14:10 |
jokke_ | yeah | 14:10 |
jokke_ | doesn't make sense to put glanceclient docs into glance repo | 14:10 |
rosmaita | ok, anyone who gets a chance to read over the patch, please keep the above in mind | 14:11 |
rosmaita | #action rosmaita reread doc migration patch to see where the cli ref is supposed to go | 14:11 |
rosmaita | ok, that's all on that from me | 14:11 |
rosmaita | #topic updates - catching up | 14:12 |
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rosmaita | i missed last week for vacation and am just getting caught up | 14:12 |
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rosmaita | jokke_: i saw the glanceclient was released | 14:12 |
rosmaita | did we release P2 for glance? | 14:13 |
jokke_ | yes and glance P-2 as well | 14:13 |
rosmaita | excellent, ty | 14:13 |
jokke_ | ofc | 14:13 |
rosmaita | ok, that clears the table to get the wsgi stuff taken care of | 14:14 |
rosmaita | that will be the #1 priority for the next week | 14:15 |
rosmaita | a quick look is that the code basically looks ok | 14:15 |
rosmaita | i haven't had time to test it out yet though | 14:15 |
jokke_ | what rosmaita just said | 14:15 |
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rosmaita | anything else need to be on the priority list for next week? | 14:16 |
rosmaita | actually i can think of a few things | 14:16 |
jokke_ | also thanks to mfedosin and flaper87 reviews the IIRC MVP has landed | 14:17 |
rosmaita | last i looked, my patch to get the priorities published for Pike hasn't been approved | 14:17 |
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rosmaita | mfedosin: flaper87: good work! | 14:17 |
jokke_ | rosmaita: I think I have +2 on that | 14:17 |
rosmaita | jokke_: yes, you are in the clear | 14:17 |
mfedosin | my please :) | 14:17 |
rosmaita | this could also use some love: https://review.openstack.org/469693 | 14:18 |
rosmaita | get the 'untargeted' specs set up on the off chance someone shows up and wants to work on glance | 14:18 |
rosmaita | mfedosin: need you to look at https://review.openstack.org/468035 | 14:18 |
rosmaita | (that's the one with jokke_ 's +2) | 14:19 |
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jokke_ | so I'm prioritizing to get client supporting the MVP and looking into for getting perhaps ceph support for the bikeshed aand maybe copy-from as well | 14:20 |
mfedosin | rosmaita: okay, added it in my review list | 14:20 |
rosmaita | ty | 14:20 |
rosmaita | jokke_: sounds good, probably copy-from would be higher priority than ceph support, but your employer may feel differently :) | 14:21 |
rosmaita | client support for the MVP would be great | 14:21 |
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rosmaita | jokke_: probably nothing there yet to review? | 14:22 |
jokke_ | rosmaita: well I kind of dislike the fact that only way to deploy HA and direct upload (as in use the new import) is to put the bikeshed on nfs | 14:22 |
jokke_ | rosmaita: not yet | 14:23 |
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rosmaita | jokke_: i agree with your dislike, but it's an MVP | 14:23 |
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jokke_ | rosmaita: indeed | 14:24 |
rosmaita | let's see how things shake out for you this week | 14:24 |
rosmaita | ok, so review priorities will be matt's wsgi common goal stuff | 14:24 |
rosmaita | jokke_ will be working on IIR stuff so we can start reviews next week | 14:24 |
jokke_ | yeah, lets try to test that wsgi and get it in | 14:25 |
rosmaita | ok, good | 14:25 |
rosmaita | ok, last update | 14:25 |
rosmaita | #topic update - ML discussion | 14:25 |
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rosmaita | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-June/118173.html | 14:26 |
rosmaita | flavio started a discussion that he and mostly mfedosin have been contributing to | 14:26 |
rosmaita | if you haven't seen it, you should read through | 14:26 |
rosmaita | i'll just point out what i think about this, namely: | 14:27 |
mfedosin | A provocative letter requires a provocative response, doesn't it? :) | 14:27 |
rosmaita | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-June/118271.html | 14:27 |
rosmaita | mfedosin: :) | 14:27 |
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* jokke_ blew up on that already. mfedosin no insults intended, sorry if you took it that way. And again sorry I should have calmed down before writing that mail | 14:28 | |
rosmaita | anyway, short story is i think mike raises some good points, but we should think about them for queens PRG, not pike | 14:28 |
mfedosin | not Pike, for sure | 14:28 |
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mfedosin | I hope that I expressed my idea clearly there | 14:28 |
rosmaita | ok, cool | 14:29 |
rosmaita | we've got enough to do with few enough people that i don't want it to be a distraction | 14:29 |
rosmaita | at the same time, if we're going to make a good decision about the future of glance, we need to have some discussion during pike | 14:30 |
rosmaita | so that we don't wind up putting it off again in queens | 14:30 |
mfedosin | rosmaita: I'll provide some details next Thursday | 14:31 |
jokke_ | mfedosin: just to clarify the background a bit. We've been in quite deep shait for past 2-3months. As I understood Flavio was looking something to improve the situation (that has stressed me to very thin line) right now, not in 2 years ... so I took your proposal as in the context of that, not long term | 14:31 |
rosmaita | so, please continue to discuss, but please also don't let it get in the way of reviewing the glance priorities! | 14:31 |
rosmaita | mfedosin: jokke_ | 14:31 |
rosmaita | oops | 14:31 |
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rosmaita | was just going to say, i took it the way jokke_ did | 14:31 |
rosmaita | i am glad to hear it you did not mean it as a short term thing | 14:31 |
rosmaita | ok, that's all for updates | 14:33 |
mfedosin | I did not mean to offend anyone... And again, sorry if I wasn't clear in the first message | 14:33 |
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rosmaita | mfedosin: no offense taken | 14:33 |
rosmaita | and sorry if i misunderstood | 14:34 |
rosmaita | just want to be clear that we need to focus on the pike deliverables during pike | 14:34 |
rosmaita | #topic open discussion | 14:34 |
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mfedosin | it's absolutely clear that pike is pike | 14:34 |
mfedosin | and we discussed it many times | 14:35 |
mfedosin | and I'm happy to help all activities we planned for pike before moving forward | 14:35 |
rosmaita | excellent, thank you | 14:36 |
mfedosin | actually I have several exciting news, but I'm going to postpone them till the next meetings | 14:36 |
jokke_ | mfedosin: thanks ... you know that your expertise is greatly appreciated | 14:36 |
rosmaita | mfedosin: will look forward to your exciting news! | 14:36 |
jokke_ | also for Open Discussion | 14:38 |
rosmaita | ok, anything else? | 14:38 |
rosmaita | looks like jokke_ has something | 14:39 |
jokke_ | we're still screwed with glance_store gate being bonked by Tempest | 14:39 |
jokke_ | that has been case for past 3 weeks I think | 14:39 |
rosmaita | at least | 14:39 |
jokke_ | So I'd like to bring up an idea that we drop every Tempest test run from our test suite that tempest does not gate themselves | 14:40 |
jokke_ | to avoid them breaking us and not doing anything about it | 14:40 |
jokke_ | and by tempest gating I mean woting jobs | 14:41 |
jokke_ | if tempest runs the job non-voting we don't run it (like in the case of this specific job that keeps breaking as Tempest cores don't care if it breaks and merges those breaking changes anyways) | 14:41 |
rosmaita | (sorry for the delay, i am looking at some patches to see wha's up) | 14:42 |
rosmaita | looks like this got through clean a few days ago: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/431677/ | 14:45 |
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jokke_ | rosmaita: that was stable | 14:46 |
rosmaita | oops | 14:46 |
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jokke_ | honestly I do not know where tose jobs differs if they do | 14:46 |
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rosmaita | what's failing the most? for a while it was a shelving test not being able to delete a cinder snapsot or something | 14:47 |
jokke_ | but the tempest-dsvm-full-ceph has not passed in master once since tempest guys merged the breaking changes | 14:48 |
jokke_ | rosmaita: I think it's the new shelving test I proposed revert and it seems that they merged another breaking test as well | 14:48 |
rosmaita | that is quite annoying | 14:49 |
jokke_ | and it's not first time they do this | 14:49 |
rosmaita | ok, so the disable shelve is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/473897/ | 14:49 |
jokke_ | so they have jobs non-voting that us and cinder (used to) gate and they merge stuff even if those non-voting jobs breaks | 14:50 |
jokke_ | so at this point my proposal is that we don't run any jobs from tempest that tempest don't gate on themselves | 14:51 |
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jokke_ | saves quite a bit of developer and infra cycles | 14:51 |
rosmaita | well, that does seem reasonable | 14:51 |
rosmaita | tell you what ... let's collaborate on an etherpad for an ML item | 14:52 |
jokke_ | ++ | 14:52 |
rosmaita | (that way i can add some "please"s) | 14:52 |
rosmaita | :) | 14:52 |
jokke_ | :P | 14:52 |
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rosmaita | anything else? | 14:52 |
jokke_ | like "Could you_, please,_ go and feck yourself" :P | 14:53 |
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rosmaita | #action rosmaita jokke collaborate on ML message to qa/tempest | 14:53 |
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jokke_ | and no I would not go that far | 14:53 |
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rosmaita | i was just going to say, you *have* learned to say "please"! | 14:54 |
jokke_ | ;) | 14:54 |
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rosmaita | ok, sounds like that's all for today. Let's quit early and maybe jokke_ and i can get this tempest thing done real quick | 14:54 |
jokke_ | but that's all from me | 14:54 |
rosmaita | #endmeeting | 14:55 |
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jokke_ | sounds good | 14:55 |
openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 15 14:55:01 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:55 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2017/glance.2017-06-15-14.00.html | 14:55 |
jokke_ | thanks all | 14:55 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2017/glance.2017-06-15-14.00.txt | 14:55 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2017/glance.2017-06-15-14.00.log.html | 14:55 |
rosmaita | oh yeah, i should have said "thanks everyone" too | 14:55 |
rosmaita | thanks everyone! | 14:55 |
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sjmc7 | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 15 15:00:44 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sjmc7. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search' | 15:00 |
lei-zh | o/ | 15:01 |
Kevin_Zheng | o/ | 15:01 |
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sjmc7 | for once it’s not morning for me | 15:02 |
Kevin_Zheng | where are u? | 15:03 |
sjmc7 | so good afternoon and evening | 15:03 |
sjmc7 | in the UK | 15:03 |
Kevin_Zheng | cool | 15:03 |
lei-zh | dark night prevails : ) | 15:03 |
sjmc7 | yeah. i’ve been partly on vacation all week so i don’t have much of an agenda today | 15:04 |
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lei-zh | cool, enjoy your vacation | 15:05 |
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sjmc7 | just looking through the open reviews | 15:05 |
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sjmc7 | looks like you updated the uwsgi one? | 15:06 |
lei-zh | yeah, mainly on the sample files you suggested | 15:06 |
sjmc7 | ok. i’ll give it another check and approve that | 15:06 |
lei-zh | and endpoint name | 15:07 |
lei-zh | thanks | 15:07 |
sjmc7 | and i’ll take a look at your comments on the nova notificationsone | 15:07 |
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lei-zh | ok, I find sometimes 'state' value not synced | 15:09 |
Kevin_Zheng | question | 15:09 |
Kevin_Zheng | do we want “STATUS” field | 15:09 |
Kevin_Zheng | In notify payload? | 15:10 |
sjmc7 | STATUS seems a bit shouty | 15:10 |
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sjmc7 | for instances? | 15:10 |
Kevin_Zheng | Yeah | 15:10 |
sjmc7 | we have it, don’t we? | 15:10 |
sjmc7 | as well as task_state | 15:10 |
Kevin_Zheng | No | 15:10 |
Kevin_Zheng | It's cmon | 15:10 |
Kevin_Zheng | Vm stake | 15:10 |
Kevin_Zheng | ... damn autocorrect | 15:11 |
Kevin_Zheng | Vm-state | 15:11 |
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lei-zh | 'status' is a combination of vm state and task state? | 15:11 |
Kevin_Zheng | Status is a mapping of vm-state + task state | 15:11 |
lei-zh | ok | 15:11 |
Kevin_Zheng | Yeah | 15:11 |
sjmc7 | oh, weird | 15:11 |
sjmc7 | i’d never noticed that | 15:12 |
lei-zh | I find 'status' exists in server detail api | 15:12 |
Kevin_Zheng | I didn't check it we handled it with API | 15:12 |
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Kevin_Zheng | Yeah | 15:12 |
sjmc7 | yeah. the update notification has ‘state’ which i think is the same | 15:12 |
lei-zh | so it should be better to have it? | 15:12 |
Kevin_Zheng | I asked yesterday in nova | 15:13 |
Kevin_Zheng | They seems not wanting to add it just for SL | 15:13 |
sjmc7 | ok. well, i can add it in the serialization | 15:13 |
sjmc7 | or actually, let’s do it separately | 15:14 |
sjmc7 | can you file a bug? | 15:14 |
Kevin_Zheng | Sure | 15:14 |
sjmc7 | i’d never noticed that before | 15:14 |
Kevin_Zheng | I also have some notify updates | 15:14 |
sjmc7 | go for it | 15:14 |
Kevin_Zheng | After you finish the versioned patch I will update them | 15:15 |
sjmc7 | ok. i’ll take a look at the state_update thing again | 15:16 |
sjmc7 | i still need to get the ui project building, as well | 15:17 |
sjmc7 | there’s an NPM error i don’t understand and havne’t been able to get hold of anyone that does | 15:17 |
lei-zh | nodejs is completely a new area for me... | 15:18 |
sjmc7 | seemingly for everyone else, too :) | 15:18 |
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sjmc7 | i’ll see if i can get hold of rob again | 15:19 |
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sjmc7 | ok, like i say, i didn’t really have anything on the agenda for today. thanks for bringing up the zaqar thread again | 15:19 |
sjmc7 | we’ll see if we can get some movement there | 15:19 |
lei-zh | yeah, I'm looking at their PoC code | 15:20 |
lei-zh | will try to continue works on that patch | 15:20 |
sjmc7 | ok. there was another mailing list thread yesterday where searchlight came up, about not having good paging support in horizon because the services themselves are a little difficult to page through | 15:21 |
sjmc7 | we’ll see if anything comes of that | 15:21 |
sjmc7 | ok, unless you guys have anytihng else i’ll let you get back to your evenings | 15:22 |
yingjun | nothing from me | 15:22 |
lei-zh | nope | 15:22 |
lei-zh | I love premier league | 15:23 |
Kevin_Zheng | Nope | 15:23 |
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sjmc7 | :) | 15:24 |
sjmc7 | i’ve lost touch with football a bit since i moved | 15:25 |
sjmc7 | ok, have a good weekend all! | 15:25 |
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sjmc7 | #endmeetin | 15:27 |
sjmc7 | #endmeeting | 15:27 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 15 15:27:58 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:28 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2017/openstack_search.2017-06-15-15.00.html | 15:28 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2017/openstack_search.2017-06-15-15.00.txt | 15:28 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2017/openstack_search.2017-06-15-15.00.log.html | 15:28 |
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