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| jokke_ | Courtesy meeting reminder on #openstack-meeting-4: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishek, bunting, dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat, aavraham, alex_bash | 13:59 |
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| jokke_ | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 8 14:00:04 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jokke_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| jokke_ | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:00 |
| jokke_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:00 |
| jokke_ | o/ | 14:00 |
| jokke_ | We have short agenda today | 14:00 |
| mfedosin | o/ | 14:00 |
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| jokke_ | giving minute or two it seems we have quite thin participation as well | 14:01 |
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| abhishekk | jokke_: thank you for review | 14:02 |
| jokke_ | ok lets get moving | 14:03 |
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| jokke_ | #topic Updates (python_glanceclient release) | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Updates (python_glanceclient release) (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:03 | |
| jokke_ | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/release-announce/2017-June/001786.html | 14:03 |
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| jokke_ | seems like we did not break the world this time releasing the client \o/ | 14:04 |
| jokke_ | #topic Updates (Glance P-2 release) | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Updates (Glance P-2 release) (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:04 | |
| jokke_ | i sent the release request for P-2 earlier today. Waiting for it to be reviewed and merged | 14:05 |
| jokke_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472241/ | 14:05 |
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| jokke_ | This means that IIR MVP nor the wsgi community goal did make to the P-2 | 14:06 |
| jokke_ | Thanks for everyone who has reviewed the weeks priorities | 14:06 |
| jokke_ | Any questions about the releases? | 14:07 |
| abhishekk | jokke_: no, so IIR now will be part of p-3 | 14:08 |
| abhishekk | hopefully | 14:08 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk: hopefully | 14:08 |
| jokke_ | and no we did not release glance_store prior to P-2 | 14:09 |
| jokke_ | ok moving on | 14:09 |
| jokke_ | #topic set global_request_id when request_id is passed in | 14:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "set global_request_id when request_id is passed in (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:09 | |
| jokke_ | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-June/117906.html | 14:10 |
| jokke_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468443/ | 14:10 |
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| jokke_ | so I have personally bit of a problem about this proposal | 14:11 |
| jokke_ | due to the fact that it's backwards incompatible API breaking change | 14:11 |
| jokke_ | even I don't think it's tracked nor tested by the major shareolders (mainly InterOperability group) | 14:12 |
| abhishekk | jokke_: right | 14:12 |
| jokke_ | if you guys have no comments about it now, I'd like you to look into it and chime in either to the mailchain and/or to the review | 14:14 |
| jokke_ | going once | 14:15 |
| jokke_ | going twice | 14:15 |
| abhishekk | ok, i recollect your comment about return request-id caller | 14:16 |
| abhishekk | where you have suggested to pass same request-id for list case | 14:16 |
| jokke_ | yeah | 14:16 |
| abhishekk | so this will be problematic in this case | 14:17 |
| jokke_ | so yeah I don't recall the exact code path there, but I think we would be getting rolling request from that stream (we have 2 req-id's global and "local" and when we get that local in we send it in next request where it gets updated to globaland new one will be returned as req-id which is again sent back | 14:18 |
| abhishekk | yes | 14:19 |
| jokke_ | so we would have no single req-id in those calls at all | 14:19 |
| jokke_ | ok .. that reinforces my stance that we should not do this ... I'm fine our client sending the global req-id per default and us accepting that but we need to keep the current req-id behavior | 14:19 |
| abhishekk | jokke_: I will revisit that code and check again | 14:20 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk: thanks a lot! | 14:20 |
| abhishekk | jokke_: np | 14:21 |
| jokke_ | anything else about req IDs for now? | 14:21 |
| abhishekk | no | 14:21 |
| jokke_ | ok moving on to Open Discussion then | 14:21 |
| jokke_ | #topic Open Discussion | 14:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:21 | |
| jokke_ | I have one thing kind of to preload here as I did not put it to the agenda in time | 14:22 |
| abhishekk | go ahead | 14:22 |
| jokke_ | Tempest has decided _again_ to break the gate and not take the responsibility for it https://review.openstack.org/#/c/471352/ | 14:23 |
| jokke_ | they do have non-voting test runs that we have for example in glance_store and they merge tests that will break those jobs without caring that other projects actually gates on them | 14:24 |
| jokke_ | this is not the first time and for example glance is already non-voting on that job, I think cinder as well because they keep breaking it | 14:24 |
| jokke_ | So unless they get their act together I'm gonna propose next week that for saving our precious dev cycles and the infra cycles we stop running any of those jobs | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | across the glance repos | 14:26 |
| abhishekk | jokke_: are you gonna send mail for this? | 14:27 |
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| jokke_ | abhishekk: yes ... I'm gonna see if they take action on that revert (and apparently there is another one merged that breaks that same job) and I'll put mail out next week | 14:28 |
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| abhishekk | jokke_: sounds good | 14:28 |
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| jokke_ | but I'm likely gonna propose that we drop any tempest test runs from our check and gate that tempest does not gate themselves | 14:29 |
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| jokke_ | that will reduce our test footprint and coverage a lot, but I'm sick and tired of them breaking something every other month and not taking responsibility of it | 14:30 |
| abhishekk | true | 14:30 |
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| jokke_ | thats all from me | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | big hand to mfedosin taking the time and reviewing the two last IIR MVP patches | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | good comments there Mike I will revisit | 14:32 |
| mfedosin | jokke_: my pleasure | 14:32 |
| mfedosin | hope it will be merged soon | 14:33 |
| jokke_ | and thanks to you abhishekk as well ... good catches | 14:33 |
| abhishekk | jokke_: thank you :) | 14:33 |
| jokke_ | oh one more thing unless you noticed. We do not enforce log translations anymore :) | 14:33 |
| abhishekk | yes | 14:34 |
| jokke_ | so logging team not doing them and we not enforcing the usage of translations functions, we can now start merging changes that does not have them in place | 14:34 |
| jokke_ | I'm still inclined not to start merging changes removing those function from out current codebase | 14:35 |
| jokke_ | we really don't have the bandwidth to review all those carefully and make sure they don't cause any regressions | 14:35 |
| abhishekk | totally agree | 14:36 |
| jokke_ | so I'd suggest we take noop on that for now and just make sure we do not add more of them | 14:36 |
| abhishekk | sure | 14:36 |
| jokke_ | anyone else or should we free up 20min today? | 14:37 |
| abhishekk | good idea!!! | 14:38 |
| jokke_ | ok last chance before I end the meeting | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | TY all | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | #endmeeting | 14:39 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 8 14:39:46 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2017/glance.2017-06-08-14.00.html | 14:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2017/glance.2017-06-08-14.00.txt | 14:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2017/glance.2017-06-08-14.00.log.html | 14:39 |
| abhishekk | thank you all!! | 14:39 |
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| spotz | #startmeeting openstack_ansible_meeting | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 8 16:01:57 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is spotz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
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| spotz | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-ansible#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 16:02 |
| spotz | #topic Roll Call | 16:02 |
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| andymccr | o/ | 16:02 |
| d34dh0r53 | o/ | 16:02 |
| spotz | d34dh0r53: Hey! | 16:02 |
| odyssey4me | o/ | 16:02 |
| jmccrory | o/ | 16:02 |
| d34dh0r53 | hiya spotz | 16:02 |
| spotz | Someone poke cloudnull - he's up first | 16:03 |
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| spotz | #topic Review action items from 2 weeks ago | 16:03 |
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| spotz | cloudnull to fix up upgrades/spec for hyperconverge path - our only action item | 16:04 |
| andymccr | yeah! | 16:04 |
| andymccr | I know odyssey4me has reverted some of it already | 16:04 |
| spotz | Yeah odyssey4me! | 16:04 |
| andymccr | cloudnull: we're gonna just have to revert some of that, we're at m2 now, so there is a bit of time | 16:04 |
| odyssey4me | it's still in review | 16:04 |
| andymccr | but if we hit m3 and are still pending this we're gonna have to just get it reverted | 16:05 |
| andymccr | which is the last week or so in july (24-28) | 16:05 |
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| andymccr | but cloudnull isn't here, im sure he'll get the backscroll - gonna add it again as an action item | 16:05 |
| odyssey4me | doing the hyperconvergance will force us to re-think how we do service restarts across multiple hosts, especially when they need to be done in a specific order and we're serialising the deployments to cater for rolling upgrades | 16:05 |
| andymccr | #action cloudnull to fix up upgrades/spec for hyperconverge path - our only action item | 16:05 |
| odyssey4me | so right now I've proposed the revert as a safety measure | 16:06 |
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| andymccr | odyssey4me: yeah agreed although we don't force service locations, its designed to be flexible i guess | 16:06 |
| odyssey4me | yep, but we need to cater to our defaults | 16:06 |
| andymccr | well either way, its impossible to upgrade cleanly in the current method | 16:06 |
| andymccr | so im thinking | 16:07 |
| andymccr | we revert and talk about it at the PTG a bit more | 16:07 |
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| spotz | Ok moving on before we get talking PTG here! | 16:08 |
| andymccr | yeah | 16:08 |
| andymccr | hahaha | 16:08 |
| spotz | #topic Developer mode changes | 16:08 |
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| andymccr | ok yes! so this was meant for last weeks meeting, but since i wasnt available - i'll talk about it here | 16:08 |
| spotz | Be honest you stood us up... | 16:08 |
| andymccr | we've merged a new dev mode path, that will allow upstream roles to use our tests | 16:09 |
| andymccr | for example keystone are implementing our upgrade tests now | 16:09 |
| andymccr | here is a blog about it: http://blog.andy.mc.it/osa-dev-env/ | 16:09 |
| andymccr | i'll be adding some docs in the dev docs but just as a point of interest | 16:09 |
| andymccr | and yeah sorry about that spotz :(( | 16:09 |
| spotz | uh huh... Any questions? Or go read the blog first and then hit andymccr up:) | 16:10 |
| andymccr | spotz: yeah i mean more just to let people know thats happened :) | 16:10 |
| andymccr | and that we'll start having some more testing in other projects (i know nova-lxd are looking at it, and ara already has it) | 16:10 |
| spotz | Ok moving on to our favorite then:) | 16:10 |
| spotz | #topic PTG - 11-15 September - Denver, Colorado | 16:10 |
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| andymccr | haha | 16:10 |
| andymccr | ok PTG you know what to do people :D | 16:10 |
| andymccr | we still have quite a bit of time, so for now just start looking at getting there if possible! | 16:11 |
| spotz | Still waiting to hear the status of my talk that week in LA, then I'll know if I can go | 16:11 |
| andymccr | excellent! | 16:11 |
| spotz | We have an ether started or anything? Folks will need to know what days and such to help with planning | 16:12 |
| xgerman_ | +1 | 16:12 |
| andymccr | nope not yet - we have some time, so maybe at m3 we can start that | 16:12 |
| andymccr | since it's still 3 months away or so | 16:12 |
| andymccr | but yeah! | 16:12 |
| andymccr | i'll leave it on for the meetings | 16:13 |
| spotz | Ok sooner folks know how many days the sooner they can ask work | 16:13 |
| andymccr | ahh you mean from a day perspective | 16:13 |
| andymccr | ok lemme dig into that | 16:13 |
| spotz | yeah | 16:13 |
| andymccr | i'll investigate and get back to you | 16:13 |
| andymccr | #action andymccr to look into specific OSA dates for the PTG | 16:13 |
| spotz | First 2 days are cross project I read, but they said to talk to your PTL about the other days:) | 16:13 |
| spotz | So get on it!:) | 16:14 |
| andymccr | will do | 16:14 |
| spotz | #topic Release Planning and Decisions | 16:14 |
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| andymccr | ok! SO - we have milestone 2 released! yay | 16:14 |
| spotz | woot | 16:14 |
| andymccr | as an FYI that means nothing can be added to the official release - so no new repos, although they will still be branched/tagged etc. | 16:15 |
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| andymccr | other than that, im out next week - but evrardjp will be doing the release for Ocata/Newton next week. | 16:15 |
| spotz | We want to cancel this meeting? | 16:15 |
| andymccr | spotz: yeah maybe for next week. | 16:16 |
| andymccr | i think at the PTG we should discuss the meeting in general, perhaps once every 2 weeks is fine | 16:16 |
| spotz | ok I'll send a mail out when we're done | 16:16 |
| andymccr | or it seems to be at least | 16:16 |
| andymccr | thanks spotz! | 16:16 |
| spotz | Yeah we're definitely going faster and having less people:( | 16:16 |
| spotz | #topic uWSGI/NGinx Blueprint: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458595/ | 16:16 |
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| andymccr | spotz: yeah i think i keep it going because people can read the notes etc later, so it makes sense. but yeah | 16:16 |
| andymccr | ok so - i updated the blueprint, i see i have more comments now so ineed to go through that ;D | 16:17 |
| evrardjp | Will review latest. | 16:17 |
| andymccr | so i'll add that as a todo item for me | 16:17 |
| spotz | Did you already split it? | 16:17 |
| andymccr | i'll update it soon and get another round of feedback, and i need to update the patch so thats on me :P | 16:17 |
| spotz | Ok | 16:18 |
| spotz | So last topic then | 16:18 |
| spotz | #topic Open Discussion | 16:18 |
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| andymccr | sweet :) | 16:18 |
| andymccr | as an fyi - we're adding some bits to do a translation checksite | 16:19 |
| andymccr | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472296/ | 16:19 |
| andymccr | & https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467222/ | 16:19 |
| andymccr | which will allow the i18n team to use OSA as their testing infrastructure for a release | 16:19 |
| andymccr | nothing to do right now - just for those interested :) | 16:19 |
| spotz | That'll make ianychoi happy:) | 16:19 |
| evrardjp | that's good | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | :) | 16:20 |
| evrardjp | for i18n will we go that far as nova consoles? | 16:20 |
| evrardjp | (just for curiosity) | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | you're doing great work connecting OSA to other teams andymccr - that's just what I think will help grow the community | 16:20 |
| andymccr | odyssey4me: hoping so - if we can get the keystone patch merged to show how to integrate testing that'd help | 16:21 |
| evrardjp | agreed. Congrats | 16:21 |
| spotz | Now if only we could look at conf files without having to go into the lxc:) | 16:21 |
| andymccr | evrardjp: not sure. i think they could use nova: no-op driver | 16:22 |
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| spotz | We've got 35 minutes of meeting time. Keep chatting here or want to end? | 16:22 |
| andymccr | i dont have anything else right now. happy to leave it open for a bit incase anybody has other points of conversation! | 16:23 |
| evrardjp | yeah this was fast | 16:23 |
| evrardjp | we have many bugs, please have a look at them. I will add the organisation of a bug smash somewhere in our timeline maybe? | 16:24 |
| evrardjp | I think nobody was against | 16:24 |
| andymccr | evrardjp: yeah thats probably a good idea | 16:24 |
| odyssey4me | evrardjp I think that rickbox and jrosser_ might be interested in hosting that. | 16:25 |
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| evrardjp | would be great | 16:28 |
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| andymccr | ok so i think we're good then :) | 16:31 |
| evrardjp | thanks everyone! | 16:31 |
| andymccr | thanks everybody | 16:31 |
| andymccr | spotz: feel free to close itup! | 16:31 |
| spotz | #end-meeting | 16:35 |
| spotz | #endmeeting | 16:35 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 8 16:35:36 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2017/openstack_ansible_meeting.2017-06-08-16.01.html | 16:35 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2017/openstack_ansible_meeting.2017-06-08-16.01.txt | 16:35 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2017/openstack_ansible_meeting.2017-06-08-16.01.log.html | 16:35 |
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| LouisF | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:00 |
| vks1_ | Hi all | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 8 17:00:47 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is LouisF. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining' | 17:00 |
| LouisF | vks1_: hi | 17:00 |
| bcafarel | hello | 17:01 |
| igordcard | hi all | 17:01 |
| LouisF | bcafarel: hi | 17:01 |
| LouisF | igordcard: hi | 17:01 |
| pcarver | hi | 17:01 |
| LouisF | pcarver: hi | 17:01 |
| LouisF | #topic agenda | 17:01 |
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| LouisF | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ServiceFunctionChainingMeeting | 17:02 |
| LouisF | doonhammer: hi | 17:02 |
| LouisF | aby items to add? | 17:02 |
| LouisF | any | 17:02 |
| igordcard | pcarver: awesome commit message :p | 17:02 |
| pcarver | igordcard: thanks, I think | 17:02 |
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| bcafarel | quick item: igordcard added a project-config review to get the bot in #networking-sfc | 17:03 |
| LouisF | +1 | 17:03 |
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| bcafarel | most of you should already be in the review list I think | 17:03 |
| LouisF | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472282 | 17:04 |
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| LouisF | #topic CLI | 17:05 |
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| LouisF | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409759/ | 17:05 |
| LouisF | mohan has posted a new patch | 17:05 |
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| igordcard | I'll review soon hopefully | 17:05 |
| LouisF | igordcard: thanks | 17:05 |
| LouisF | #topic API reference | 17:06 |
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| LouisF | pcarver: thanks for update | 17:06 |
| pcarver | LouisF: Yeah, this is just excruciating | 17:07 |
| pcarver | I have to trace back the chain of imports and figure out what can be done differently. | 17:07 |
| pcarver | We can't keep the networking-sfc or neutron.api imports in neutron-lib | 17:07 |
| LouisF | pcarver: did neutron-lib folks have any suggestions? | 17:08 |
| igordcard | pcarver: the big dependencies are the ones in sfc.py and flowclassifier.py right? | 17:09 |
| pcarver | LouisF: I haven't asked yet. Way to many meetings internal to AT&T. | 17:09 |
| pcarver | I think the only networking-sfc import is for the i18n translations of exception messages | 17:09 |
| pcarver | I don't really know the details of how translations work, but I assume the translations can be moved from networking-sfc's i18n to neutron-lib's i18n | 17:10 |
| igordcard | pcarver: oops, wrong files | 17:10 |
| igordcard | pcarver: I just wanted to mention neutron_lib/api/definitions/flowclassifier.py | 17:10 |
| pcarver | The neutron imports have to do with the API extension mechanism | 17:10 |
| pcarver | igordcard: yes, flowclassifier imports from neutron.api and neutron.api.v2 | 17:11 |
| igordcard | pcarver: the i18n thing doesn't seem to be used in the extension file though.. | 17:11 |
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| pcarver | one of the imported functions is pretty trivial, but the other depends on yet other imports | 17:11 |
| igordcard | and the import of extensions should come from neutron-lib I expect? | 17:12 |
| igordcard | pcarver: looking at ExtensionDescriptor | 17:12 |
| pcarver | igordcard: the i18n import is the _ used on all of the text of the exceptions | 17:12 |
| vks1_ | pcarver:i18n Shud not be issue in neutron-lib | 17:12 |
| igordcard | pcarver: oh yes | 17:13 |
| pcarver | I assume I can use the equivalent function in neutron-lib but need to figure out if I also need to relocate translated message text from somewhere. | 17:13 |
| vks1_ | I think we are moving for fwaas | 17:13 |
| igordcard | pcarver: ExtensionDescriptor will come from here https://github.com/openstack/neutron-lib/blob/ae5efb1ee47d0868e25caee4e0aaf1c857ec9eaa/neutron_lib/api/extensions.py | 17:13 |
| igordcard | pcarver: pcarver i18n from here https://github.com/openstack/neutron-lib/blob/master/neutron_lib/_i18n.py | 17:14 |
| pcarver | igordcard: thanks. I just haven't had time to go looking for it | 17:14 |
| igordcard | pcarver: messages stay in the api def | 17:14 |
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| pcarver | igordcard: I know the English messages remain in the exceptions in neutron-lib, but if I just switch to the neutron_lib/_i18n.py will it find the other language translations? | 17:15 |
| bcafarel | in neutron translated messages are in locale/ so is it just that we do not have other translations for now? | 17:15 |
| igordcard | pcarver: just a moment, I've never seen where the other languages are stored | 17:15 |
| pcarver | I haven't looked to find out where the other language message strings are stored or whether the logic in neutron-lib's i18n is identical to what's in networking-sfc | 17:16 |
| pcarver | bcafarel: I don't know. I just haven't had time to go tracking it down yet. | 17:16 |
| pcarver | I don't know why networking-sfc implemented its own i18n module, but I'm defaulting to assuming there was some reason | 17:16 |
| pcarver | otherwise I would think it would have just imported i18n from upstream rather than implementing a module in networking-sfc | 17:17 |
| LouisF | is it possible to get rid od the networking-sfc i18n? | 17:17 |
| pcarver | LouisF: that's what I haven't had time to figure out yet. | 17:18 |
| igordcard | bcafarel: pcarver: so it should be as easy as having the default english + i18n import in neutron-lib, and then openstack/networking-sfc will store the remaining messages right? | 17:18 |
| pcarver | I assume there was some reason why that module exists in networking-sfc rather than being imported from elsewhere | 17:18 |
| bcafarel | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Translations#Internationalization_.28i18n.29 <- yep the locale/ path seems pretty standard | 17:18 |
| bcafarel | igordcard: looks like so indeed | 17:18 |
| pcarver | but I haven't read through the implementation to figure out what, if anything, it does that justifies its existence | 17:18 |
| igordcard | LouisF: shouldn't be too hard | 17:19 |
| igordcard | https://github.com/openstack/neutron-lib/blob/master/neutron_lib/_i18n.py | 17:19 |
| pcarver | if it's really just copy/paste code and doesn't need to exist then I will definitely remove it and just use neutron-lib's implementation | 17:19 |
| vks1_ | +1 | 17:19 |
| igordcard | https://github.com/openstack/networking-sfc/blob/master/networking_sfc/_i18n.py | 17:19 |
| pcarver | but I want to compare them before assuming that the networking-sfc one doesn't do anything unique | 17:19 |
| LouisF | pcarver: +1 | 17:20 |
| pcarver | I assume that if it were 100% generic then it shouldn't have been implemented in networking-sfc in the first place | 17:20 |
| LouisF | pcarver: not sure why it was | 17:20 |
| bcafarel | apparently it's the recommended way: https://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.i18n/usage.html | 17:20 |
| pcarver | So, I'm thinking there's probably at least something it does that might need to be migrated | 17:20 |
| bcafarel | so the domain is set in each project | 17:21 |
| vks1_ | What possibly can break if neutron-lib's i18n gets used? | 17:22 |
| pcarver | bcafarel: I need time to read the docs, but assuming that "domain" has something to do with how it finds the language strings to replace with other language strings, then that's what I meant about seeing if there are translation string files that need to be moved | 17:22 |
| pcarver | vks1_: most likely won't break, but I'm thinking maybe it won't find the text strings needed to translate the messages | 17:22 |
| pcarver | I know practically nothing about i18n, so I just need to read docs and figure out how it all works to make sure I don't break it | 17:23 |
| LouisF | pcarver: what is behavior if text strings are not found? | 17:23 |
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| pcarver | LouisF: I'm guessing it probably just displays English messages, but again, I know practically nothing about i18n | 17:24 |
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| LouisF | pcarver: ok | 17:24 |
| pcarver | I'm American so I assume everybody is fine with 7 bit ASCII in English :-) | 17:24 |
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| pcarver | I have no experience with running software in non-English languages | 17:25 |
| vks1_ | Doug can clarify | 17:25 |
| bcafarel | pcarver: domain is mostly for the locale file name, so yes you should be fine just using neutron-lib module (so generated translation files will end up properly in neutron-lib) | 17:25 |
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| LouisF | moving on | 17:27 |
| LouisF | #topic Tap SF | 17:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tap SF (Meeting topic: service_chaining)" | 17:27 | |
| LouisF | vks1_: what is status? | 17:27 |
| vks1_ | LouisF hv added notes in doc. Need reviews | 17:28 |
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| LouisF | vks1_: thanks for the update to the Tap spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/471725/ | 17:28 |
| LouisF | vks1_: added some comments | 17:28 |
| bcafarel | I should have time tomorrow to finally take a look at these (hopefully) | 17:28 |
| vks1_ | All please review | 17:28 |
| vks1_ | Also I have to add UTs for agent | 17:29 |
| LouisF | vks1_: thanks | 17:29 |
| vks1_ | bcafarel thnx | 17:29 |
| igordcard | I might take a bit longer to review.. | 17:30 |
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| bcafarel | igordcard: stop sleeping, you could do reviews and write code instead! | 17:31 |
| igordcard | bcafarel: genius | 17:31 |
| LouisF | #topic SF Graph | 17:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "SF Graph (Meeting topic: service_chaining)" | 17:31 | |
| LouisF | igordcard: status? | 17:31 |
| igordcard | the 3 patches are essentially finished | 17:31 |
| igordcard | but I have to do actual manual testing | 17:32 |
| igordcard | so at the moment I'm making the cli for service graphs so I can easily test them and fix anything along the way | 17:32 |
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| igordcard | but I don't expect the code to change much at this point | 17:32 |
| LouisF | igordcard: ok thanks - will review | 17:33 |
| igordcard | documentation will come later | 17:33 |
| LouisF | igordcard: ok | 17:33 |
| igordcard | heat support and OSC will also come later, probably someone else from my side will do those 2 | 17:33 |
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| LouisF | igordcard: ok | 17:34 |
| LouisF | #topic OVN work | 17:34 |
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| LouisF | doonhammer: how is the OVN SFC work? | 17:34 |
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| LouisF | moving on | 17:36 |
| doonhammer | I have been sucked into getting ready for our annual user conference - but that has involved building demos for containers and sfc | 17:36 |
| bcafarel | some recent comments ovs-dev (like 20 min ago) for the ovs part | 17:36 |
| doonhammer | I need to get a patch sumbitted asap | 17:36 |
| LouisF | doonhammer: ok | 17:36 |
| doonhammer | I will be free after tomorrow | 17:36 |
| LouisF | doonhammer: ok thanks | 17:37 |
| LouisF | #topic other items | 17:38 |
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| LouisF | support for legacy SF using the SFC proxy is seen as useful | 17:39 |
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| LouisF | in particular non-transparent SF | 17:39 |
| LouisF | we added support for that | 17:39 |
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| igordcard | LouisF: and what about L2 insertion modes? | 17:40 |
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| igordcard | LouisF: without mac rewrites | 17:40 |
| LouisF | igordcard: can you elaborate? | 17:40 |
| vks1_ | I guess we discussed we will add that | 17:40 |
| vks1_ | After tap | 17:41 |
| igordcard | LouisF: just being able to push frames into a VM, with the VM running its interfaces in promiscuous mode | 17:41 |
| igordcard | LouisF: and running e.g. an OVS instance inside that VM, to do multiple networking functions | 17:41 |
| vks1_ | insertion-mode support | 17:41 |
| LouisF | igordcard: are you thinking of containers inside a VM? | 17:42 |
| igordcard | LouisF: not necessarily, just simply VMs in promiscuous mode | 17:43 |
| igordcard | LouisF: right now (without nsh) it still looks like packets are routed to the VM | 17:43 |
| igordcard | LouisF: instead of "switched" to the VM | 17:43 |
| vks1_ | LouisF: It's a L2 mode insertion | 17:43 |
| igordcard | vks1_: yeah | 17:44 |
| LouisF | igordcard: so how would a promiscous VM affect current port-chain OVS operation | 17:44 |
| vks1_ | We have in ML | 17:44 |
| igordcard | LouisF: I might have to investigate that a bit more, there might be some loss of information that makes the steering ambiguous (if we don't match on the mac addresses inserted by the groups anymore) | 17:45 |
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| igordcard | LouisF: particularly in multi node | 17:45 |
| LouisF | igordcard: can you maybe put ideas into a BP? | 17:46 |
| igordcard | LouisF: but basically, everything regarding writing or matching on mac addresses would disappear | 17:46 |
| LouisF | igordcard: nsh would achieve that right? | 17:47 |
| igordcard | LouisF: I can but will take a long time, as I have to finish on my current tasks.. | 17:47 |
| igordcard | LouisF: yeah NSH makes insertion modes irrelevant | 17:47 |
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| igordcard | LouisF: L2 insertion mode would be simply an increase in the scope of legacy service chaining achieved by networking-sfc | 17:48 |
| igordcard | LouisF: so I was just wondering what was the interest around that, I personally don't have any interest | 17:48 |
| LouisF | igordcard: vks1_ is looking at that | 17:49 |
| LouisF | igordcard: however, regarding non-transparent SF, I have added a new BP that outlines a scheme mapping SFC to SF instances | 17:49 |
| LouisF | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+spec/sfc-proxy-port-correlation | 17:50 |
| igordcard | LouisF: thanks, yes I still have to review what has been done so far around that | 17:50 |
| LouisF | this avoids need for re-classification of packets from SG egress port | 17:51 |
| LouisF | ok, other items? | 17:52 |
| igordcard | call for presentations at the summit is now open | 17:52 |
| igordcard | and since bcafarel's adoption of the ovs l2 agent extension, kolla can't deploy networking-sfc... | 17:52 |
| igordcard | there's someone working to fix that though, and correctly deploy networking-sfc with ovs | 17:53 |
| LouisF | igordcard: who is working on that? | 17:53 |
| igordcard | a person from my team, I'll send the review link when there's something up | 17:54 |
| LouisF | igordcard: thanks | 17:54 |
| bcafarel | I think I saw some discussion on containerization of neutron agents (and related modules) | 17:54 |
| bcafarel | igordcard: I think I will find it interesting :) | 17:54 |
| LouisF | bcafarel: +1 | 17:54 |
| LouisF | all i have for now | 17:55 |
| LouisF | btw, i will be way for next two weeks | 17:55 |
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| LouisF | cathy will run the meetings | 17:56 |
| LouisF | thanks all | 17:56 |
| LouisF | bye | 17:57 |
| igordcard | LouisF: alright! | 17:57 |
| igordcard | bye | 17:57 |
| bcafarel | ok, see you later | 17:57 |
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| LouisF | #endmeeting | 17:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:57 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 8 17:57:14 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2017/service_chaining.2017-06-08-17.00.html | 17:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2017/service_chaining.2017-06-08-17.00.txt | 17:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2017/service_chaining.2017-06-08-17.00.log.html | 17:57 |
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| pcarver | igordcard: You mentioned ExtensionDescriptor was that in reference to the neutron.api imports? | 18:11 |
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