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| ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 08:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 17 08:00:37 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 08:00 |
| ifat_afek | Hi :-) | 08:00 |
| yujunz | Hi | 08:01 |
| usman | Hi Everyone! | 08:01 |
| annarez | Hi! | 08:01 |
| alexey_weyl | Hello | 08:01 |
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| ifat_afek_ | #topic Boston Summit recap | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek_ | I think that the Boston summit was very successful for Vitrage. IMO, the most important activities were the hands-on lab and the ongoing demos in Nokia’s booth. | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek_ | A list of our sessions: | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek_ | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/18067/get-hands-on-with-vitrage-the-fault-management-service-for-root-cause-analysis-and-deduced-alarms | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek_ | #link https://www.openstack.org/videos/boston-2017/beyond-automation-taking-vitrage-into-the-realm-of-machine-learning | 08:05 |
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| ifat_afek | #link https://www.openstack.org/videos/boston-2017/intel-collectd-and-vitrage-integration-an-eventful-demo | 08:05 |
| eyalb | \o/ | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://www.openstack.org/videos/boston-2017/collectd-and-vitrage-integration-an-eventful-presentation | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://www.openstack.org/videos/boston-2017/the-vitrage-story-from-nothing-to-the-big-tent | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://www.openstack.org/videos/boston-2017/advanced-use-cases-for-root-cause-analysis | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://www.openstack.org/videos/boston-2017/project-update-vitrage | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/18799/vitrage-usability-and-new-insights-where-do-we-go-next | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | I’ll send a summit recap email in the coming days. | 08:06 |
| yujunz | Wonderful | 08:06 |
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| ifat_afek | #topic Status and Updates | 08:07 |
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| ifat_afek | Not much on my side. I’m spending most of my time responding to emails that I missed… | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | Other than that, I guess you noticed the interesting discussions on our mailing list, about monitoring Nova heartbeat and pushing the alarms to Vitrage | 08:08 |
| ifat_afek | That’s it for me. Anyone else wants to update? | 08:08 |
| alexey_weyl | A quick update | 08:09 |
| alexey_weyl | there is a small problem in the gate at the moment. Hopefully will be fixed today. | 08:09 |
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| ifat_afek | Anyone else? | 08:10 |
| yujunz | I will | 08:10 |
| yujunz | Proposed the change of entity equivalent during summit | 08:10 |
| yujunz | A bit messed up today during rebasing. | 08:11 |
| yujunz | Since the patches have dependency, I would suggest to review them in time order | 08:11 |
| yujunz | But it would be good to look at all of them to have a complete understanding. | 08:11 |
| ifat_afek | OK. You mean by the time you first submitted each patch? | 08:12 |
| yujunz | Yes, by the submit time | 08:12 |
| ifat_afek | Ok, I’ll do it today | 08:12 |
| yujunz | Document -> loading -> refactoring -> building | 08:12 |
| yujunz | In this order | 08:12 |
| ifat_afek | Did you finish the coding, or is anything left? | 08:12 |
| yujunz | Nothing left on my side | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | Great | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | And sorry again for the delay in our reviews | 08:13 |
| yujunz | The refactoring is submit for building scenario dynamically | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | I’m not so familiar with the scenario loading. What do you mean by that? | 08:14 |
| yujunz | Loading equivalence | 08:14 |
| ifat_afek | Makes sense | 08:14 |
| yujunz | That one was simple and safe to merge. No affect on current function | 08:14 |
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| ifat_afek | OK | 08:15 |
| ifat_afek | Anything else? | 08:15 |
| yujunz | That's it | 08:15 |
| ifat_afek | Thanks. Anyone else wants to update? | 08:16 |
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| ifat_afek | Short meeting today :-) | 08:18 |
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| ifat_afek | Bye, see you next week | 08:19 |
| yujunz | Bye | 08:19 |
| dwj | bye | 08:19 |
| annarez | bye :) | 08:19 |
| eyalb | bye | 08:19 |
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| ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 08:19 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 17 08:19:46 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:19 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-05-17-08.00.html | 08:19 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-05-17-08.00.txt | 08:19 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-05-17-08.00.log.html | 08:19 |
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| gmann | #startmeeting nova api | 13:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 17 13:02:37 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_api' | 13:02 |
| gmann | who all here today? | 13:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | o/ | 13:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | struggling a touch with my new dev setup, but here | 13:03 |
| gmann | johnthetubaguy: hi you are here, did not find you on nova channel :) | 13:03 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, my new IRC client suddenly decided to tell znc to leave all channels, no idea why!! | 13:03 |
| gmann | sdague: mriedem meeting time | 13:03 |
| gmann | oh | 13:04 |
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| sdague | o/ | 13:04 |
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| gmann | let's start | 13:05 |
| gmann | #topic priorities | 13:05 |
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| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/policy-docs | 13:05 |
| gmann | policy doc are all up for review | 13:05 |
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| gmann | but it is not very much readable on generated sample #link https://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/sample_policy.html | 13:06 |
| gmann | may be after some new line etc on oslo side will make it more clear doc | 13:07 |
| gmann | or this one - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460097/ | 13:07 |
| gmann | once all patches are merged we can check formatting etc if needed | 13:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh, something broke again | 13:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh no wait, we need this patch approving | 13:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460097/ | 13:08 |
| gmann | yea #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460097/ | 13:09 |
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| johnthetubaguy | there is a bump of the oslo.policy minimum thats needed too, so we don't need any of the above patch | 13:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | but the docs are the important bit, so I am happy to see the progress there | 13:09 |
| gmann | ok. | 13:09 |
| gmann | is new line things done at oslo side? or needs to be done | 13:10 |
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| johnthetubaguy | its that patch we linked | 13:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | that fixes it | 13:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | probably need a follow up oslo patch after the oslo bump, but lets see | 13:10 |
| gmann | ok | 13:11 |
| gmann | johnthetubaguy: unused policy removal etc how we are going to do, just remove or any other process we need to follow ? | 13:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think we have just removed the stuff that unsued, with a reno note | 13:12 |
| gmann | johnthetubaguy: ok, we have still some of them. | 13:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | the stuff that is means something, needs deprecating | 13:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, seemed best to leave a bunch of those till the end and remove them all | 13:12 |
| gmann | ok. | 13:13 |
| gmann | johnthetubaguy: anything else on policy things you want to discuss. | 13:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | not really, there is a policy meeting later | 13:14 |
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| johnthetubaguy | there was good discussion at the forum I guess | 13:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | around API keys and restricting what they can do | 13:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | keeping that a bit separate from policy for the moment | 13:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | but its clearly very related | 13:15 |
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| johnthetubaguy | anyways, thats all I think | 13:15 |
| gmann | API keys? | 13:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, a keystone feature thats in spec at the moment | 13:16 |
| gmann | ohk | 13:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | looking for a link | 13:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450415/ | 13:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | basically a different way to authenticate, that isn't your LDAP password | 13:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | there is a ML thread on that right now | 13:17 |
| gmann | i see, thanks. ll check looks helpful. | 13:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | its part of the cross project efforts around making it easier for applciations to make use of our APIs | 13:18 |
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| gmann | ok | 13:18 |
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| gmann | let's move next | 13:19 |
| gmann | sdague: this is last one for wsgi side right? -#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457715/ | 13:19 |
| gmann | anyways let's jump to open if no other priority items ? | 13:21 |
| gmann | #topic open | 13:22 |
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| gmann | API extensions removal | 13:22 |
| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/api-no-more-extensions-pike | 13:22 |
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| gmann | nice progress on this. many of those need another +2 | 13:23 |
| gmann | johnthetubaguy: sdague ^^ will be quick | 13:23 |
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| gmann | i will target these tomorrow or on friday | 13:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, not really "working" right now, been meaning to get through the +2 backlog | 13:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | attempting to get a sane-ish dev environment is proving distracting | 13:24 |
| gmann | oh | 13:24 |
| gmann | I do not have any other items (may be alex_xu will follow up in next meeting) | 13:26 |
| gmann | johnthetubaguy: anything else you have or we close meeting early ? | 13:26 |
| cdent | sorry for showing up late, had to be on the phone | 13:26 |
| gmann | cdent: hi | 13:26 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I don't really have anything, we highlighted two lots of stuff that needs some eyes, that's probably the main bit at this point I guess | 13:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | not sure there were any massive changes in direction from the forum to discuss as such | 13:27 |
| gmann | ok | 13:27 |
| gmann | cdent: looking at wsgi things , in case you want to bring/discuss- #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457715/ | 13:27 |
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| cdent | there's a minor thing to fix there, but it is mostly okay | 13:28 |
| gmann | cdent: ok. | 13:29 |
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| gmann | anything else cdent from your side? | 13:30 |
| cdent | no, not at the moment, still getting resituated after summit | 13:32 |
| gmann | yea, same here. i am still on report side tough | 13:32 |
| gmann | ok. let's close early. | 13:32 |
| gmann | thanks. | 13:32 |
| gmann | #endmeeting | 13:33 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 17 13:33:01 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-05-17-13.02.html | 13:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-05-17-13.02.txt | 13:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-05-17-13.02.log.html | 13:33 |
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| alexchadin | #startmeeting watcher | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 17 14:00:14 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alexchadin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'watcher' | 14:00 |
| alexchadin | hi! | 14:00 |
| alexchadin | Today's agenda is https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#05.2F17.2F2017 | 14:03 |
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| vincentfrancoise | o/ | 14:03 |
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| alexchadin | #topic Announcements | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 14:03 | |
| alexchadin | Watcher team made great work on Summit! We have had project on-boarding, team meeting and 2 presentations. | 14:04 |
| alexchadin | #info Watcher team made great work on Summit! We have had project on-boarding, team meeting and 2 presentations. | 14:04 |
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| alexchadin | #info Automating Noisy Neighbor Detection with OpenStack Watcher record on youtube | 14:04 |
| alexchadin | #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y68bBiKiDwo | 14:04 |
| sballe_ | hi sorry for bein glate | 14:04 |
| alexchadin | hi sballe_ | 14:05 |
| Yumeng__ | Hi | 14:05 |
| alexchadin | #info Help Telecom Operators Save Energy and Reduce Cost of Data Center with OpenStack Watcher record on youtube | 14:05 |
| alexchadin | #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gVztRCC3z8 | 14:05 |
| alexchadin | Yumeng__, sballe_, vincentfrancoise how are you?:) | 14:06 |
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| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: great and you ? | 14:06 |
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| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: fine | 14:07 |
| Yumeng__ | Good 😊 thank you | 14:07 |
| alexchadin | #info Corey Bryant from Canonical maintains Watcher packages for Ubuntu. | 14:07 |
| lakerzhou | Hi Wachers, this is Bin Zhou, I had network issue, sorry to join late | 14:07 |
| alexchadin | hi lakerzhou | 14:07 |
| vincentfrancoise | lakerzhou: hi! | 14:07 |
| lakerzhou | Hi Alex and Vincent, My very first watcher IRC meeting :) | 14:08 |
| alexchadin | lakerzhou: you are welcome:) | 14:08 |
| vincentfrancoise | lakerzhou: Welcome! | 14:08 |
| Yumeng__ | Welcome zhou! | 14:09 |
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| alexchadin | any other announcements? | 14:09 |
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| alexchadin | let's go to the open discussions then | 14:10 |
| alexchadin | #topic Open Discussions | 14:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussions (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 14:10 | |
| alexchadin | #info It would be great to begin support of juju charms. We should wait for Gnocchi to have a charm. How many people do we need to start charm development? | 14:10 |
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| alexchadin | since I had a long conversations with Canonical guys, I plan to take charms development on my own | 14:11 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: just as a reminder of the conversation for people who didn't attend, Canonical folks told us they provision 6 weeks to charm-up a new project | 14:11 |
| vincentfrancoise | including testing and everything | 14:12 |
| lakerzhou | Vincent, can you please explain the context of charm work a little bit? | 14:13 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: thx. and they have snap-packages that seems to be easier to maintain | 14:14 |
| alexchadin | some openstack projects already has snap packages for their services | 14:14 |
| sballe_ | alexchadin: vincentfrancoise can you please review noisy neightbor? I added a comment to vincentfrancoise's comment | 14:15 |
| vincentfrancoise | lakerzhou: basically, charms is the Ubuntu project that aims at making the modeling and deployment of an app very easy | 14:15 |
| vincentfrancoise | lakerzhou: including openstack | 14:16 |
| vincentfrancoise | lakerzhou: but the problem is that they only package the core services of OpenStack and leave the rest up to the community | 14:16 |
| alexchadin | sballe_: sure, I will mention noisy neighbor soon | 14:17 |
| sballe_ | ok sorry I noticed it above and was wonderign if I missed the discussion because I was late | 14:17 |
| vincentfrancoise | lakerzhou: so they told us just that but ensured that they would at least test our Watcher juju charm if we manage to create one | 14:17 |
| lakerzhou | Vincent, thanks. So it is just a setup/startup effort? | 14:17 |
| vincentfrancoise | lakerzhou: don't know what we have to do but in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/watcher-Boston-meetings , they gave https://github.com/openstack/charm-manila as a good starting point to help us | 14:18 |
| alexchadin | lakerzhou: yes, and it will help us to use Watcher without needs to setup devstack and it should attract more contributors | 14:18 |
| vincentfrancoise | lakerzhou: I think the work is similar to the one you do to develop and test an Ansible playbook but it's only a feeling | 14:19 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: potentially yes | 14:19 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: obviously, we need our own charm-repo :) | 14:20 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: I guess so | 14:21 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: a https://github.com/openstack/charm-watcher repo then | 14:21 |
| alexchadin | I may take it on my own since Dmitrii Shcherbakov from Canonical (he lives in Moscow) can help me with charms locally | 14:22 |
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| alexchadin | he is charm developer and maintains code base of juju platform | 14:22 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: cool! | 14:23 |
| lakerzhou | vincent, sounds a great start. I thought watcher would integrate charm for work flow management. | 14:23 |
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| alexchadin | lakerzhou: have you tried to deploy watcher on your dev cloud? | 14:23 |
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| lakerzhou | Alex, that is my plan this week | 14:25 |
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| alexchadin | lakerzhou: great! don't forget to send us your questions about watcher on openstack-watcher channel | 14:26 |
| alexchadin | any other discussions? | 14:26 |
| lakerzhou | Alex, I will. thanks. | 14:27 |
| alexchadin | #topic Review Action Items | 14:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 14:27 | |
| alexchadin | Watcher specs | 14:27 |
| alexchadin | Build baremetal data model in watcher needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448016/ | 14:27 |
| alexchadin | Yumeng__: when do you plan to update this spec? | 14:28 |
| Yumeng__ | Yes , will do tomorrow | 14:29 |
| alexchadin | #action Yumeng__ update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448016/ with new PS | 14:29 |
| alexchadin | update action description needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459529/ | 14:30 |
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| alexchadin | Add new actions "power on" and "power off" in Watcher needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/435436/ | 14:31 |
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| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: whether David Tardivel have time to review it or not? | 14:32 |
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| alexchadin | ok, I'll try to do it | 14:33 |
| alexchadin | #action alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/435436/ | 14:33 |
| Yumeng__ | I will ping Vincent later, loooks like he had network issue | 14:34 |
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| alexchadin | extend-node-status needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464549/ | 14:34 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: I will try | 14:34 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: I've seen you already reviewed it :) | 14:35 |
| Yumeng__ | +1 | 14:35 |
| alexchadin | thanks, Yumeng__ | 14:35 |
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| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: for the extend-node-status, it looks similar to vm metadata | 14:35 |
| alexchadin | #action vincentfrancoise Yumeng__ review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464549/ | 14:35 |
| alexchadin | cluster-maintance-strategy needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464602/ | 14:35 |
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| alexchadin | Noisy Neighbor Strategy needs core reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398162/ | 14:36 |
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| alexchadin | sballe_, vincentfrancoise I've seen you have had some disagreements | 14:37 |
| sballe_ | I am not sure it is disagrements | 14:37 |
| sballe_ | I just was clarifying our goals | 14:38 |
| vincentfrancoise | sballe_: +1 | 14:38 |
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| sballe_ | I wanted to make sure vincentfrancoise 's comment was addressed | 14:38 |
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| sballe_ | and not buried in an old patch ;-) | 14:39 |
| alexchadin | sballe_: oh, fine :) | 14:39 |
| alexchadin | I will review it by EOW | 14:40 |
| vincentfrancoise | sballe_: I didn't have any hard thought on it but I was playing the devil's advocate so that we take into account the audience's feedback from the summit | 14:40 |
| sballe_ | :-) | 14:40 |
| alexchadin | #action alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398162/ | 14:41 |
| alexchadin | move on to Watcher | 14:41 |
| alexchadin | Watcher | 14:41 |
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| alexchadin | Add action description needs reviews and Add action description notification needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/dynamic-action-description | 14:42 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: have you seen changes on this PS? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450720/ | 14:44 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: no but put me on it | 14:44 |
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| alexchadin | #action vincentfrancoise review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450720/ | 14:45 |
| alexchadin | Noisy Neighbor Strategy needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454359/ | 14:45 |
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| alexchadin | sballe_: do Pru plan to answer on comments soon? | 14:46 |
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| alexchadin | Versioned Notifications for service object needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437333/ | 14:49 |
| sballe_ | which comment | 14:49 |
| alexchadin | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454359/ | 14:49 |
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| sballe_ | alexchadin: yes on the answer | 14:49 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: just posted a draft comment on Service notification | 14:50 |
| sballe_ | pru will address | 14:50 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: but it's a small one | 14:50 |
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| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: Vladimir on his vacation, he will publish new PS ASAP | 14:51 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: no problem ;) | 14:52 |
| alexchadin | sballe_: great | 14:52 |
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| alexchadin | Reduced the code complexity needs code reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441873/ | 14:52 |
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| alexchadin | unfortunately, hidekazu is not here yet | 14:54 |
| alexchadin | Watcher official install-guide soon will need code reviews | 14:55 |
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| alexchadin | I'm happy to announce that we will have official install guide soon! | 14:55 |
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| alexchadin | adisky will try to complete it by next Wednesday | 14:56 |
| Yumeng__ | Great! | 14:56 |
| alexchadin | seems that we are out of time soon :) | 14:57 |
| Yumeng__ | yep | 14:57 |
| alexchadin | I'm happy that code review activity is higher than before summit :) | 14:58 |
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| alexchadin | well, let's end meeting | 14:59 |
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| Yumeng__ | Bye Alex | 14:59 |
| alexchadin | have a good day/evening | 14:59 |
| alexchadin | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 17 14:59:54 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-05-17-14.00.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-05-17-14.00.txt | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-05-17-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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| serverascode | #startmeeting operators_telco_nfv | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 17 15:00:45 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is serverascode. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: operators_telco_nfv)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'operators_telco_nfv' | 15:00 |
| serverascode | #topic roll call | 15:00 |
| ad_rien_ | o/ | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: operators_telco_nfv)" | 15:01 | |
| serverascode | hi ad_rien_ :) | 15:01 |
| ad_rien_ | Hi guys | 15:01 |
| shintaro | hi | 15:01 |
| serverascode | cool hi shintaro :) | 15:01 |
| shintaro | hi serverascode | 15:01 |
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| serverascode | anybody else here for the telecom-nfv meeting? | 15:01 |
| serverascode | I was hoping for at least a couple new people :) | 15:02 |
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| serverascode | I'll give it a minute or so and we will see | 15:02 |
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| gianpietro | Hi, I'm new! Gianpietro Lavado from Whitestack, a relatively new startup trying to help operators in Latin America in their NFV deployments | 15:03 |
| serverascode | great, hi gianpietro :) | 15:03 |
| serverascode | ok so we have just the four of us now | 15:03 |
| serverascode | I wonder if there are people lurking...if so do please speak up :) | 15:04 |
| shintaro | great to have new people! | 15:04 |
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| gianpietro | heard about this group from Ildiko Vancsa, during the Openstack Mini Summit at the ONS 2017 conference | 15:04 |
| serverascode | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-telco-nfv-meeting-agenda | 15:05 |
| serverascode | there's the agenda I had put together, not a lot on it | 15:05 |
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| serverascode | I'm going to start with open discussion/introductions | 15:05 |
| serverascode | #topic open discussion / introductions | 15:05 |
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| serverascode | does anyone have anything they would like to talk about that is not on the agenda? | 15:05 |
| serverascode | given there are only the four of us I'm not sure how valid the agenda is | 15:06 |
| serverascode | gianpeitro do you want to give us a bit of an introduction to yourself and what you are up to? | 15:06 |
| gianpietro | Yes... | 15:06 |
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| serverascode | ok while you are working on that, shintaro, ad_rien_ do you have anything that you wanted to add? | 15:08 |
| ad_rien_ | yes | 15:08 |
| shintaro | yes, 6.2 | 15:08 |
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| ad_rien_ | Shintaro if I'm right you attended the meeting with Ildiko | 15:09 |
| ad_rien_ | regarding how we can improve discussions/collaborations between the different WGs. | 15:09 |
| ad_rien_ | right ? | 15:09 |
| shintaro | the forum, yes | 15:09 |
| shintaro | I was the moderator with Ildiko | 15:09 |
| ad_rien_ | one action was to setup a monthly meeting where each WG chair can highlight accomplished works and ongoing actions. | 15:09 |
| shintaro | I remember ad_rien_ was from Massively Distributed Team, right? | 15:10 |
| gianpietro | I work at Whitestack and have a lot of background in the telco space (Cisco, Global Crossing, etc), we have worked in some demos of NFV using OSM, OpenBaton and Tacker as orchestrators over OpenStack, and have awaken the interest in many Latin America operations, my intention of joining the group is to share feedback and experiences from this part of the world, and also learn from other operators trying to build their NFV en | 15:10 |
| gianpietro | vironments...also, to collaborate in design and documentation | 15:10 |
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| ad_rien_ | shintaro: yes ;) | 15:10 |
| serverascode | thanks gianpietro, that's great, I think you are in the right place :) we are still working on getting enough people to attend the meetings to do useful things :) | 15:11 |
| shintaro | ad_rien_: Ildiko got an action to contact UC (i.e. Edger) | 15:11 |
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| serverascode | gianpietro were you at the opentstack summit in boston? | 15:11 |
| ad_rien_ | ok. I think we should add that to our minute to be sure we move forward on that aspect | 15:11 |
| gianpietro | serverascode: yes, but couldn't make it to this groups' meeting :/ | 15:12 |
| serverascode | ok thanks gianpeitro | 15:12 |
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| ad_rien_ | serverascode: could you please add an action : keep in mind progress regarding monthly WG chairs meeting. | 15:12 |
| serverascode | ok will do | 15:12 |
| ad_rien_ | thanks | 15:12 |
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| shintaro | I will check with Ildiko about the action items | 15:13 |
| ad_rien_ | sure. I think we should find a way to combine our efforts. | 15:13 |
| ad_rien_ | There are several interests and at different levels/under different viewpoints. | 15:13 |
| ad_rien_ | users perspectives, devops… | 15:13 |
| serverascode | #action: keep in mind progress regarding monthly WG chairs meeting. | 15:13 |
| ad_rien_ | All actions make sense but we should definitely try to mitigate redundant actions | 15:14 |
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| ad_rien_ | For instance, just identifying ongoing-actions and targets of each WG that deals with NFV/multisite deployments would be valuable for our community | 15:14 |
| serverascode | +1 | 15:15 |
| shintaro | agree | 15:15 |
| shintaro | OPNFV has a lot of WGs that might overlap with OpenStack teams | 15:15 |
| ad_rien_ | yes | 15:15 |
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| serverascode | might be worthwhile to try to get their charis to the meeting too... | 15:16 |
| serverascode | *chairs | 15:16 |
| gianpietro | not sure if there is already, but maybe we can work on a list of NFV 'production environments' from which other operators can learn? I don't have much to add from this region, but for sure can help with building some structured documentation around that | 15:16 |
| serverascode | gianpietro yes that's an interesting idea, I'm not sure how many public examples there are, but it would be worthwhile to bring them together somewhere... | 15:17 |
| shintaro | I believe AT&T and Verison had some session in the Summit | 15:17 |
| gianpietro | serverascode: I will look for potential examples from summit videos and other posts, and will come back with a first list, maybe then we can grab the attention from the operators behind them | 15:18 |
| serverascode | that's great! | 15:18 |
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| serverascode | #action: gianpietro gather a list of potential NFV deployment examples | 15:18 |
| serverascode | if you come to meetings you get action items :) | 15:18 |
| serverascode | haha | 15:18 |
| ad_rien_ | :-) | 15:19 |
| serverascode | ok, anything else on the "working group chairs meeting" or should we move onto shintaro's item? | 15:19 |
| gianpietro | :) | 15:19 |
| ad_rien_ | maybe just one point | 15:19 |
| ad_rien_ | serverascode: can you please give a follow up to my emails regarding how all WGs can collaborate (i.e. the first session on monday after our talk, unless I am mistaken, I did not find concrete follow-ups) | 15:20 |
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| serverascode | ok, yeah I will respond to that | 15:21 |
| serverascode | I will be interested to see what kind of attendance you get at the Massively Distributed meeting next week (which I will go to for sure) | 15:21 |
| ad_rien_ | subjects: WG Chairs Collaboration session (May 8th @ 12:05PM) | 15:21 |
| ad_rien_ | ;) | 15:21 |
| ad_rien_ | yes the same from my side to be honest ;) | 15:21 |
| serverascode | #action: serverascode to respond to WG chairs collaboration session email thread | 15:21 |
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| ad_rien_ | I think we should really investigate how we can federate cross-actions | 15:22 |
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| ad_rien_ | to be more fruitful | 15:22 |
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| ad_rien_ | that's ok from my side. Please go ahead with 6.2 | 15:22 |
| shintaro | now moved to item3 | 15:22 |
| serverascode | #topic timeslot | 15:23 |
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| serverascode | I'm open to moving the meeting to any time slot :) | 15:23 |
| shintaro | yes. I was wondering if the time slot was an issue for west coast people? | 15:23 |
| shintaro | to join this meeting | 15:23 |
| ad_rien_ | The time slot is ok from my side (PARIS time zone) | 15:23 |
| serverascode | I'm in mountain time, so it's 9AM | 15:24 |
| serverascode | pacific time would be 8AM | 15:24 |
| gianpietro | for me as well (GMT-5, Bogota/Lima time, 10am) | 15:24 |
| serverascode | so it is early for west coast people | 15:24 |
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| gianpietro | ad_rien_: would an hour later work for you? | 15:24 |
| ad_rien_ | not really | 15:25 |
| ad_rien_ | because in France we are switching | 15:25 |
| ad_rien_ | between Summer and winter time | 15:25 |
| ad_rien_ | but if it really helps to attract more people | 15:25 |
| ad_rien_ | please go ahead | 15:25 |
| serverascode | shintaro do you know people on the west coast that might attend at a better time? | 15:25 |
| serverascode | frankly I think the problem with telecoms is they won't/can't use IRC | 15:25 |
| serverascode | in general they prefer conference calls | 15:26 |
| serverascode | though, that said, shintaro you are in tokyo so it's after midnight there | 15:26 |
| serverascode | we might have lost shintaro :) | 15:26 |
| ad_rien_ | :-P | 15:27 |
| ad_rien_ | using slack would be ok from my side | 15:27 |
| ad_rien_ | I mean any tool where I can write is preferrable I think for a multi-cultural consortium ;) | 15:27 |
| serverascode | I agree, conference calls aren't great for worldwide groups | 15:28 |
| ad_rien_ | ;) | 15:28 |
| gianpietro | I'm new to IRC and find it awesome, maybe is just a matter of help them get started? in my case, my motivation came during the "upstream training" from the guys at the OpenStack Foundation ... | 15:28 |
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| serverascode | oh interesting, that's great to hear! | 15:28 |
| serverascode | I think we table this now for next meeting | 15:29 |
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| shintaro | sorry, I got disconnected...:( | 15:29 |
| ad_rien_ | Shintaro, we were wondering what time is it from your side ? | 15:29 |
| shintaro | its 0am | 15:29 |
| ad_rien_ | ok so I'm understanding why you would appreciate to arrange another time slot | 15:30 |
| ad_rien_ | maybe we can alternate? | 15:30 |
| shintaro | well, this time is ok with me. It's calm :) | 15:31 |
| serverascode | shintaro do you know people from the west coast that might attend at a different time? | 15:31 |
| shintaro | no, but I believe many telcos in the US might be there. | 15:32 |
| serverascode | ok, I think what I would say is that if this time works for everyone in the meeting today, then we just leave it as is until we get some people that come that would like to change the time, in which case we can do that, or alternate, or some other option | 15:33 |
| shintaro | If the less attendance is not the timeslot issue, then I'm good. | 15:33 |
| ad_rien_ | ok | 15:33 |
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| ad_rien_ | so as I said, time slot is ok from my side. | 15:33 |
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| serverascode | cool, ok, but we'll certainly stay open to changes | 15:34 |
| gianpietro | ok ! | 15:34 |
| serverascode | so I have a few more things on the agenda, but if there is just the 4 of us I don't know if we need to go through them all | 15:34 |
| serverascode | #info I had to redo the top of the agenda page b/c it was translated | 15:35 |
| serverascode | I just wanted to mention I had to redo the top of the agenda page b/c it was translated somehow, not b/c I wanted to take credit for a bunch of changes :) | 15:35 |
| ad_rien_ | BTW serverascode do you know why it has been translated? This occurs also on the FEMDC etherpad | 15:35 |
| ad_rien_ | ? | 15:35 |
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| serverascode | I'm not sure, I noticed one other page, presumably someones browser is setup to translate or something? | 15:35 |
| serverascode | I have no idea | 15:35 |
| serverascode | #topic Boston Summit review | 15:36 |
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| serverascode | ok, how about we do one more thing, was there anything anyone wanted to mention about the boston summit? | 15:36 |
| serverascode | any interesting things? | 15:37 |
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| serverascode | how about the "openstack helm" project, did anyone see that? I thought it was very interesting, also that it is being lead by AT&T | 15:37 |
| ad_rien_ | not yet unfortunately from my side (I'm managing plenty of TODOs and thus I did not suceed to make an good summary of what I saw/did during this last week). | 15:38 |
| shintaro | my link is unstable today.. but I'm back | 15:38 |
| serverascode | #link https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-helm/ | 15:38 |
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| ad_rien_ | is similar to kolla? | 15:38 |
| serverascode | I believe in that it deploys openstack on k8s it is similar yeah | 15:38 |
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| serverascode | but also completely different... :) | 15:39 |
| gianpietro | both at the ONS and the Summit, I've seen a trend of using containers as VNFs, found that interesting | 15:39 |
| serverascode | VNFs in containers, yes that is going to be interesting | 15:39 |
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| serverascode | also it sounded like AT&T deploys openstack clouds in pairs, kind of like availability zones in AWS | 15:40 |
| shintaro | making VNFs cloud-native is more interesting. | 15:40 |
| serverascode | I need to find out more about that | 15:40 |
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| serverascode | yeah, legacy VNFs are difficult to deploy into openstack | 15:41 |
| shintaro | jamemcc might be able to give us some idea on AT&T deployment | 15:42 |
| serverascode | good point, I would be interested to hear about that | 15:42 |
| serverascode | does anyone know when the LCOO meeting is? | 15:42 |
| serverascode | I can't seem to figure out where/when it is | 15:42 |
| shintaro | tomorrow 1400UTC | 15:42 |
| ad_rien_ | It is a skype meeting | 15:42 |
| ad_rien_ | if I'm correct. | 15:43 |
| serverascode | ah, ok, thanks! | 15:43 |
| serverascode | If I can I should go just to listen | 15:43 |
| shintaro | yes skype meeting but the link is open I believe | 15:43 |
| ad_rien_ | I don't know where is the link | 15:43 |
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| gianpietro | didn't know about that group | 15:44 |
| serverascode | gianpietro have you heard of the LCOO group? | 15:44 |
| gianpietro | here it is https://openstack-lcoo.atlassian.net/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=8847424 | 15:44 |
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| serverascode | thanks! | 15:44 |
| serverascode | ok well I don't have anything else from my side | 15:45 |
| serverascode | does anyone have anything else to add? | 15:45 |
| ad_rien_ | not yet | 15:46 |
| ad_rien_ | thanks | 15:46 |
| shintaro | I'm with LCOO so I can add an agenda for tomorrow's meeting | 15:46 |
| serverascode | ok well thanks everyone for attending, gianpietro I hope to see you at the next meeting :) and thanks for coming | 15:46 |
| serverascode | thanks shintaro! | 15:46 |
| ad_rien_ | Thanks for chairingserverascode | 15:46 |
| serverascode | #endmeeting | 15:46 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 17 15:46:47 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_telco_nfv/2017/operators_telco_nfv.2017-05-17-15.00.html | 15:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_telco_nfv/2017/operators_telco_nfv.2017-05-17-15.00.txt | 15:46 |
| shintaro | thank you | 15:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_telco_nfv/2017/operators_telco_nfv.2017-05-17-15.00.log.html | 15:46 |
| gianpietro | will definitely be here, and I've got homework :) | 15:46 |
| gianpietro | bye~! | 15:46 |
| ad_rien_ | ++ | 15:46 |
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| inc0 | #startmeeting Kolla | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 17 16:00:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is inc0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 16:00 |
| hrw | o/ | 16:00 |
| inc0 | #topic rollcall | 16:00 |
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| inc0 | w00t! | 16:00 |
| spsurya_ | o/ | 16:00 |
| duonghq | o/ | 16:00 |
| duonghq | wo0t | 16:00 |
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| egonzalez | w00t \o/ | 16:00 |
| rwellum | o/ | 16:00 |
| vhosakot | o/ | 16:00 |
| mandre | o/ | 16:00 |
| kfox1111 | o/ | 16:00 |
| sdake | o/ | 16:01 |
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| krtaylor | o/ | 16:01 |
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| inc0 | lets give it few more minutes for slackers | 16:02 |
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| gema | thanks x) | 16:02 |
| gema | o/ | 16:02 |
| inc0 | :D | 16:03 |
| inc0 | #topic Announcements | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Kolla)" | 16:03 | |
| inc0 | We're back! Summit was interesting and it was awesome to meet lots of you there | 16:03 |
| krtaylor | +1 | 16:03 |
| vhosakot | +1 | 16:03 |
| gema | +1 | 16:03 |
| inc0 | that's it from me, any community announcements?:) | 16:03 |
| rwellum | +1 | 16:03 |
| Serlex | :) +1 | 16:03 |
| spsurya_ | +1 | 16:03 |
| gema | thanks for everybody's help in getting the multi arch main change in | 16:04 |
| gema | \o/ | 16:04 |
| hrw | +1 | 16:04 |
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| inc0 | that's a good change, thank you for doing the heavy lifting | 16:04 |
| inc0 | ok let's move on to agenda | 16:05 |
| inc0 | #topic Image sharing on docker hub (inc0) | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Image sharing on docker hub (inc0) (Meeting topic: Kolla)" | 16:05 | |
| inc0 | sooo...if you follow ML, that's topic of the day yesterday | 16:05 |
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| duonghq | ya, hot topic | 16:06 |
| inc0 | if you haven't, don't read it now as it's...long | 16:06 |
| daidv | o/ | 16:07 |
| inc0 | bottom line, depends how TC will move from there, that will affect this topic | 16:07 |
| krtaylor | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-May/116677.html | 16:07 |
| inc0 | I think it's premature to discuss technical details of how we want to do it until this concludes, so for now I encourage everyone to follow this thread and chime in | 16:07 |
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| Jeffrey4l_ | o/ | 16:08 |
| inc0 | anything anyone want to add to this? | 16:08 |
| gema | i'd like to add something | 16:08 |
| britthouser | 0/ sorry i'm alte | 16:08 |
| inc0 | go ahead | 16:08 |
| gema | we will need, for ARM64 to publish the containers regardless of the resolution | 16:08 |
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| gema | what I mean is, if the community decides to go against it we will have to do it somehow under linaro's umbrella | 16:09 |
| inc0 | well nobody can, or want, to stop you | 16:09 |
| krtaylor | yep, same for ppc64le | 16:09 |
| gema | not sure if power is in the same boat or not | 16:09 |
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| inc0 | I think issue is "openstack publishing" | 16:09 |
| inc0 | linaro can do what linaro wants | 16:09 |
| gema | so we are pretty much in favor of doing this upstream so that we can just be consumers (and fix any issues we find) | 16:09 |
| krtaylor | but that is just pushing to a different docker hub namespace, right? | 16:10 |
| gema | krtaylor: right | 16:10 |
| hrw | I was thinking about kolla-aarch64 user or sth like that | 16:10 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. | 16:10 |
| inc0 | not sure how we'll handle that | 16:10 |
| inc0 | depends a lot on resolution | 16:10 |
| gema | hrw: that'll depend on the resolution | 16:10 |
| kfox1111 | docker hub suposidly supports multiarch tags. | 16:10 |
| hrw | inc0: sure | 16:10 |
| hrw | kfox1111: it does? nice | 16:10 |
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| kfox1111 | where different arch versions can be uploaded with the same tag, | 16:10 |
| inc0 | like, if we won't push to kolla, I'd be reluctant to push to kolla-aarch64 | 16:10 |
| kfox1111 | and depending on the arch of docker, will pull the right image. | 16:10 |
| gema | kfox1111: wasn't aware of that, that is useful indeed | 16:10 |
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| kfox1111 | I read a blog on it somewhere... | 16:11 |
| hrw | kfox1111: docker 17.xx needed or 0.12 is fine? | 16:11 |
| kfox1111 | I'll try and dig it back up. | 16:11 |
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| hrw | thx kfox1111 | 16:11 |
| gema | kfox1111: thanks! | 16:11 |
| krtaylor | yes, but few populate the metadata from what I understand | 16:11 |
| gema | krtaylor: so we'll do it | 16:11 |
| gema | at least for kolla iamges | 16:11 |
| gema | images | 16:11 |
| inc0 | well there will be more challenges | 16:11 |
| inc0 | like, infra can't build arch | 16:12 |
| hrw | inc0: we work on 3rdparty CI | 16:12 |
| inc0 | so it's up to you guys | 16:12 |
| gema | yep, we will fix that | 16:12 |
| inc0 | I know, not sure how this is going to fit with infra workflow | 16:12 |
| inc0 | but that's logistics | 16:12 |
| inc0 | we'll figure sth out | 16:12 |
| hrw | inc0: our goal is to follow upstream afaik | 16:12 |
| gema | krtaylor: you will probably be the guinea pic as your 3rd party CI is already there | 16:12 |
| inc0 | right now, we need to wait for TC resolution and provide feedback for them | 16:12 |
| gema | pig x) | 16:13 |
| gema | (guinea pig, gosh it came across wrong) | 16:13 |
| kfox1111 | gema: https://integratedcode.us/2016/04/22/a-step-towards-multi-platform-docker-images/ I think. | 16:13 |
| krtaylor | hehheh | 16:13 |
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| gema | kfox1111: thanks, bookmarked for reading later | 16:14 |
| hrw | #link https://integratedcode.us/2016/04/22/a-step-towards-multi-platform-docker-images/ | 16:14 |
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| krtaylor | for 3rd party CI, that would only apply is multi arch was tested upstream, else its on our systems - or am I missing something | 16:14 |
| inc0 | ok, so anything else on that topic?:) we'll be coming back to this one as things unroll | 16:14 |
| inc0 | ok moving on | 16:15 |
| inc0 | #topic Forum feedback https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-boston-feedback (inc0) | 16:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Forum feedback https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-boston-feedback (inc0) (Meeting topic: Kolla)" | 16:15 | |
| inc0 | let's drop all the random thoughts we have after summit | 16:15 |
| inc0 | until they disapear;) | 16:16 |
| krtaylor | btw, excellent onboarding session, one of the best I went to | 16:16 |
| inc0 | wow thank you | 16:16 |
| sdake | inc0 was the onboarding recorded? | 16:16 |
| inc0 | no:( | 16:16 |
| gema | :( | 16:16 |
| sdake | bummer | 16:16 |
| inc0 | but that was one of feedback for forum | 16:16 |
| inc0 | so next one probably will be | 16:16 |
| inc0 | and I can do that any day;) | 16:16 |
| sdake | ought to have that onboarding at the ptg as well imo :) | 16:16 |
| krtaylor | and bring a hdmi->vga adapter :) | 16:16 |
| gema | sdake: +1 | 16:17 |
| inc0 | and that | 16:17 |
| gema | ODS felt like not a good fit for me, I have decided to attend only PTG going forward | 16:17 |
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| rwellum | onboarding was good. Project update too - but 5pm on Thursday was tough time. | 16:17 |
| gema | I did head home Wed night | 16:18 |
| spsurya_ | inc0: may i also provide the feedback ? | 16:18 |
| inc0 | spsurya_: ofc | 16:18 |
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| spsurya_ | inc0: i only watched the summit videos | 16:18 |
| spsurya_ | :) | 16:19 |
| krtaylor | gema, it certainly was a bit less technical than in the past - I was hoping for more of an all-in-one midcycle | 16:19 |
| gema | yup | 16:19 |
| Serlex | Agreed! | 16:19 |
| hrw | I hope that my 2 weeks trip for PTG pass ;D | 16:19 |
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| hrw | s/2/3/ | 16:20 |
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| rwellum | Huge containers feel to this summit. 43 presentations. Several of them conflicted in content. | 16:21 |
| Serlex | Several? you are been nice :) | 16:21 |
| rwellum | containers/kubernetes | 16:21 |
| rwellum | Yeah.. | 16:22 |
| vhosakot | yeah, many sessions had repeated content | 16:22 |
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| Serlex | As with anything in life, Summit is up for constructive criticism, some sort coordination would go a long way | 16:22 |
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| vhosakot | many of the sessions in Forum were not recorded. | 16:23 |
| duonghq | gema, summit/ptg splitting make summit lease technical stuff :( | 16:23 |
| gema | duonghq: fair enough, I am good with less travel overall | 16:23 |
| Serlex | I have etherpad links, should include it in the this meeting etherpad? | 16:23 |
| duonghq | ya | 16:24 |
| vhosakot | of the speakers in the kuryr session said kolla-kubernetes, openstack-helm and loci all do the same. | 16:24 |
| vhosakot | one* of the speakers | 16:24 |
| inc0 | hmm I think I've lost operator feedback etherpad link, anyone have it handy? | 16:24 |
| Serlex | yep inc0 | 16:24 |
| Serlex | done | 16:25 |
| inc0 | thanks | 16:25 |
| rwellum | vhosakot: +1 lots of confusion about this. And the keynote demo - which was dreadful.. | 16:25 |
| vhosakot | inc0: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/boston-deploying-openstack-on-k8s ? | 16:25 |
| inc0 | yeah, it's already linked in feedback etherpad | 16:26 |
| vhosakot | yep | 16:26 |
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| inc0 | thank you all for kind words:) | 16:29 |
| vhosakot | inc0: somebody asked me if you used Digital Ocean to create 5 VMs for each attendee. I said I don't know as I did not know at that point how you created those many VMs for everyone for the workshop. | 16:29 |
| inc0 | I had my own cloud | 16:29 |
| vhosakot | right, you told me. cool | 16:30 |
| inc0 | deployed in very similar way that these on workshops:) | 16:30 |
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| sdake | openstack on openstack ftw :) | 16:32 |
| sdake | openstack on openstack on openstack on openstack :) | 16:32 |
| vhosakot | lol | 16:32 |
| sdake | where doth it end | 16:32 |
| spsurya_ | :D | 16:32 |
| inc0 | turtles | 16:32 |
| vhosakot | k8s-on-openstack-in-a-loop ;) | 16:32 |
| britthouser | turtles all the way down | 16:32 |
| hrw | sdake: we need to go deeper | 16:32 |
| sdake | britthouser that is the phrase of doom :) | 16:32 |
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| duonghq | I also saw k8s on k8s .... | 16:32 |
| gema | sdake: OOM, killing a random openstack | 16:33 |
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| inc0 | k8s itself is kinda k8s on k8s as k8s runs k8s control services | 16:33 |
| hrw | or how it we would say at linaro: we need to crystalize that idea | 16:33 |
| hrw | ":D | 16:33 |
| spsurya_ | while(1){openstack on openstack} | 16:33 |
| inc0 | ok I think we've exhausted our summit feedbacks;) | 16:33 |
| inc0 | I encourage everyone to take long look at ops feedback | 16:34 |
| inc0 | it was very good session | 16:34 |
| sdake | inc0 you should thread them together | 16:34 |
| inc0 | let's make sure to address issues there | 16:34 |
| inc0 | what do you mena? | 16:34 |
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| sdake | inc0 our ops feedback sessions are impressive, however, we have not done alot of action on them - alot of stuff in the history of the etherpads is low hanging fruit | 16:34 |
| sdake | as in make one master page for the ops sessions and link from that | 16:34 |
| vhosakot | many ops told the docs are not the best and do not work OTB without asking help in IRC. sounded like some ops want kolla to work OTB without spending time in IRC. | 16:34 |
| inc0 | good idea! | 16:34 |
| inc0 | #action inc0 to gather past ops feedback sessions and organize them | 16:35 |
| inc0 | vhosakot: technically that's how it's supposed to be right? | 16:35 |
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| vhosakot | inc0: I like going to IRC for help, no doubt :) | 16:36 |
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| inc0 | well, what I'm saying is, every time we help someone with basic deploy means we didn't make our docs clear enough | 16:37 |
| sdake | inc0 or the person didn't read the docs :) | 16:37 |
| inc0 | :D | 16:37 |
| inc0 | that too | 16:37 |
| inc0 | anyway, moving on | 16:37 |
| inc0 | #topic open discussion | 16:37 |
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| daidv | Can I? | 16:38 |
| inc0 | daidv: ofc | 16:38 |
| hrw | https://venturebeat.com/2017/05/16/hp-enterprise-unveils-single-memory-160-terabyte-computer-the-machine/ - 160TB ram. aarch64 | 16:38 |
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| sdake | wow that must cost a fortune | 16:38 |
| hrw | daidv: go | 16:38 |
| hrw | sorry for interrupting | 16:38 |
| rwellum | I just ordered 2 of those. :/ | 16:38 |
| daidv | I have two things. | 16:38 |
| daidv | The first one that I want to re-raise "Mixing binary and source image during deployment" blueprint | 16:39 |
| daidv | with some poc code | 16:39 |
| daidv | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460436/4/ansible/roles/glance/defaults/main.yml | 16:39 |
| daidv | that we will have a new variable for each project | 16:39 |
| inc0 | daidv: looks good, let's do it! | 16:39 |
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| daidv | Thanks. | 16:39 |
| inc0 | I'd do one more thing | 16:40 |
| daidv | The second one, I want to ask something about external database for Kolla? | 16:40 |
| inc0 | we have glance-api-tag: openstack-releae | 16:40 |
| inc0 | how about doing glance-api-tag: glance-tag | 16:40 |
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| inc0 | and glance-tag: openstack-release | 16:40 |
| inc0 | so you can specify per-service tags | 16:40 |
| inc0 | for CI build scenerio | 16:40 |
| inc0 | daidv: it's possible:) | 16:41 |
| daidv | I know, but for special case | 16:41 |
| daidv | we can use this : "glance_api_image_full" | 16:41 |
| inc0 | yeah, but it's inconvenient | 16:41 |
| daidv | Ok, agreed. I will make it ASAP and waiting for blueprint is accepted. | 16:43 |
| daidv | can we come back with external database, | 16:43 |
| daidv | Actually, I have make it by passing boostrap.yml | 16:44 |
| daidv | and replace boostrap.yml with boostrap_service.yml during deployment | 16:44 |
| inc0 | so external database has nova db but not nova schema? | 16:45 |
| daidv | (I have created database, set privilege by shell script before deployment) | 16:45 |
| daidv | inc0, yep. | 16:45 |
| daidv | Can we have some way for config this and setting a new task for | 16:46 |
| daidv | creating database ... | 16:46 |
| inc0 | well, deploy should just work | 16:46 |
| daidv | without db_sync? | 16:46 |
| inc0 | as it won't recreate db if db exists | 16:46 |
| daidv | inc0, sure, and operators can manage database by himself. | 16:47 |
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| egonzalez | having the database_user/passwd with privs, bootstrap.yml will create dbs and users, then db sync | 16:48 |
| egonzalez | just override database_address with your db cluster IP | 16:48 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | egonzalez, +1 | 16:48 |
| egonzalez | other case is when user/dbs are already created, some changes are needed into bootstrap.yml to allow db sync in external_db | 16:50 |
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| hrw | bye | 16:51 |
| daidv | egonzalez, +1 , for this other case, I alway got failure when I have not clean database | 16:51 |
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| inc0 | ok, let's wrap it up:) | 16:52 |
| inc0 | thank you all for coming! | 16:52 |
| inc0 | or rather | 16:52 |
| inc0 | anyone else? | 16:52 |
| inc0 | want to add anything? | 16:52 |
| inc0 | guess not:) thank you all! let's move to our regular work:) | 16:52 |
| daidv | thank you for all suggestions. | 16:52 |
| inc0 | #endmeeting kolla | 16:52 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 17 16:52:58 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-05-17-16.00.html | 16:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-05-17-16.00.txt | 16:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-05-17-16.00.log.html | 16:53 |
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