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| ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 08:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 26 08:00:56 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 08:01 |
| ifat_afek | Hi everyone :-) | 08:01 |
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| eyalb | \o/ | 08:01 |
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| alexey_weyl | Hello | 08:01 |
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| dwj | hi | 08:01 |
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| ifat_afek | Today’s agenda: | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | •Status and Updates | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | •Boston Summit | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | •Open Discussion | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Status and Updates | 08:04 |
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| ifat_afek | I’m only working for the Boston summit, so I’ll update later | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | I know that danoffek has updates, but he will join the meeting a little late | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | Anyone else has updates that are not related to Boston? | 08:05 |
| eyalb | yes | 08:05 |
| eyalb | I am working on a bug in ocata release | 08:05 |
| eyalb | all tempest jobs started failing in ocata | 08:06 |
| eyalb | i am trying to figure out what happened | 08:06 |
| eyalb | a hard one :-( | 08:06 |
| eyalb | thats all | 08:07 |
| yujunz | What changed? dependency ? | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | Too bad… thanks for your help | 08:07 |
| eyalb | probably | 08:07 |
| eyalb | yes | 08:07 |
| yujunz | Is is possible to freeze the dependency when stable branch is created? | 08:08 |
| ifat_afek | yujunz: As far as I understand, the dependencies change only if we approve them | 08:08 |
| ifat_afek | So maybe we should look at the log to see the changes | 08:08 |
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| eyalb | we didnt do any change | 08:09 |
| eyalb | last success build was 9 march | 08:09 |
| yujunz | But I saw things like | 08:09 |
| yujunz | sympy>=0.7.6 # BSD | 08:09 |
| eyalb | and then tests started failing randomly | 08:09 |
| yujunz | So it will upgrade to latest version during CI | 08:09 |
| eyalb | no we use upper constraints when installing | 08:10 |
| yujunz | OK, from global-requirements ? | 08:10 |
| eyalb | yes | 08:10 |
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| yujunz | OK. Hope we can get it resolved soon | 08:11 |
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| ifat_afek | Right… | 08:11 |
| ifat_afek | Anyone else wants to update? | 08:11 |
| yujunz | Almost finish the supporting job for OPNFV plugfest, I think I can start working on vitrage now. That's all. | 08:12 |
| ifat_afek | Are you in the plugfest now? or is it next week? | 08:12 |
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| yujunz | The plugfest is ongoing and I'm supporting them remotely :-) | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | Cool | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | Anyone else, before we move to Boston topic? | 08:13 |
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| ifat_afek | #topic Boston Summit | 08:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Boston Summit (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:14 | |
| ifat_afek | I’m still working on two presentations: the Vitrage Story and the Vitrage project updates. | 08:15 |
| ifat_afek | Regarding the session with Intel, I got a presentation draft from Maryam Tahhan, and added Vitrage slides to it. I’m waiting for her feedback. | 08:15 |
| ifat_afek | I’m also waiting to get access to the Intel new demo environment, so we can configure Vitrage there. | 08:15 |
| ifat_afek | Another issue that I started working on is the integration with Mistral. | 08:15 |
| ifat_afek | I managed to install Mistral, now I need to configure a workflow and write a POC Mistral notifier that executes it | 08:15 |
| ifat_afek | I hope I’ll be able to finish it by tomorrow, as Maryam wants to start recording the demo | 08:16 |
| ifat_afek | That’s it on my side. Who else wants to update regarding Boston? | 08:16 |
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| alexey_weyl | I will update | 08:17 |
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| alexey_weyl | I have finished to work on the advanced use cases demos. | 08:17 |
| alexey_weyl | Everything is working. | 08:17 |
| ifat_afek | Cool :-) | 08:17 |
| alexey_weyl | thats it | 08:18 |
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| danoffek | Hi guys. Sorry I'm late. I'd like to update | 08:19 |
| danoffek | It's not about Boston. | 08:20 |
| danoffek | Vitrage ID feature is finally pushed. | 08:20 |
| danoffek | I'd like to explain a little about the feature. | 08:20 |
| ifat_afek | Yay! | 08:20 |
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| danoffek | Thanks. | 08:20 |
| adary | and i'm here as well now. whee | 08:20 |
| danoffek | So, until now Vitrage ID "str" was created by | 08:21 |
| danoffek | connecting different properties to one another from the entity | 08:21 |
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| danoffek | For example, it could be the resource type, category, name, all connected to each other to one long "str" | 08:22 |
| danoffek | Same with graph's Vertex ID | 08:22 |
| danoffek | So if you'd like to question vitrage via API about a specific machine | 08:22 |
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| danoffek | you could just build the ID on your side, and then send it to vitrage, and get the machine | 08:23 |
| danoffek | This is no longer the case. | 08:23 |
| danoffek | Vitrage ID is now a standard Openstack UUID | 08:23 |
| danoffek | generated by UUIDUtils.generateUUID (as far as I can remember) | 08:23 |
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| danoffek | This will also help save history data once we have a persistent DB, since otherwise, same alert, that would happen in 2 different hours, would be saved as the same alert on Vitrage. | 08:25 |
| danoffek | Now it will have another UUID, enabling it to be saved as a different entity in the graph, while keeping the same properties as the other alert. | 08:25 |
| danoffek | That's it, unless there are questions on this issue. | 08:26 |
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| ifat_afek | danoffek: Thanks! it’s an important fix | 08:26 |
| yujunz | Is it backward compatible? | 08:27 |
| yujunz | Or since we don't have persistent db at the moment, it is not an issue | 08:27 |
| danoffek | You got it :) | 08:27 |
| yujunz | Thanks | 08:27 |
| yujunz | It is important to get it done before persistent db | 08:27 |
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| danoffek | It's done | 08:28 |
| danoffek | or "dan" in this case ;) | 08:28 |
| ifat_afek | Right, once we have the persisntent DB we will need to start talking about upgrades… | 08:28 |
| yujunz | Well "dan" :-) | 08:28 |
| ifat_afek | Dan is Done ;-) | 08:28 |
| danoffek | thanks | 08:28 |
| ifat_afek | Any other updates, regarding Boston or else? | 08:29 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Open Discussion | 08:30 |
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| ifat_afek | Switched the topic just in case… anything you would like to talk about? | 08:30 |
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| ifat_afek | Let’s end the meeting | 08:32 |
| ifat_afek | Bye :-) | 08:32 |
| eyalb | bye | 08:33 |
| ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 08:33 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 26 08:33:21 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-04-26-08.00.html | 08:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-04-26-08.00.txt | 08:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-04-26-08.00.log.html | 08:33 |
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| alex_xu | #startmeeting nova api | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 26 13:00:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova api)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_api' | 13:00 |
| alex_xu | who is here today? | 13:00 |
| Kevin_Zheng | o/ | 13:00 |
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| alex_xu | emm...let us wait one more minutes | 13:01 |
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| alex_xu | super quite today | 13:01 |
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| alex_xu | s/quite/quiet/ | 13:02 |
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| alex_xu | ok, let us start | 13:02 |
| Kevin_Zheng | ha | 13:02 |
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| alex_xu | since OSIC stuff, we have few things need help | 13:03 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/policy-docs | 13:03 |
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| mriedem | o/ | 13:04 |
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| cdent | o/ | 13:04 |
| alex_xu | #link http://docs-draft.openstack.org/91/459791/5/check/gate-nova-docs-ubuntu-xenial/c062c69//doc/build/html/sample_policy.html | 13:04 |
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| alex_xu | ^ we fnished most of them, so I already saw people sign up to help, so I think it isn't so hard for us | 13:05 |
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| alex_xu | I will help on those also | 13:05 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/459608 | 13:06 |
| alex_xu | and johnthetubaguy already bring up the patch for removing discoverable policy rules | 13:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, just tidying that up | 13:06 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: thanks for bring those patches up | 13:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | I was wondering about splitting it, but its not really as bad as it first seems | 13:07 |
| alex_xu | yea, it isn't hard in one patch | 13:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, seemed easier in the end, given all the files are given a similar treatment | 13:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | I did go through policy-docs | 13:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | and updated the BP with a list of what is missing | 13:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/policy-docs | 13:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | finding raising a few of those patches quite... therapeutic given everything thats going on at the moment | 13:09 |
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| alex_xu | cool, it is great to have a list | 13:09 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bug/1661360 | 13:11 |
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| alex_xu | cdent: nova api via apache wsgi ^ | 13:12 |
| mriedem | should https://review.openstack.org/#/c/428404/ be abandoned? | 13:12 |
| mriedem | dansmith: ^ | 13:12 |
| alex_xu | yea, I guess that is old one | 13:12 |
| cdent | yeah, the wsgi stuff is coming along nicely | 13:12 |
| alex_xu | cdent: that is all what we need for this? | 13:12 |
| cdent | there are wsgi apps for both nova-api and metadata, and some pending devstack stuff | 13:12 |
| cdent | alex_xu: probably some docs too? | 13:12 |
| cdent | the major work is on the devstack and grenade side of the world | 13:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | so plan is get the nova stuff in now ish, and follow up with the devstack bits? | 13:13 |
| cdent | the nova stuff can merge (without being used) whenever | 13:13 |
| mriedem | would be nice to see the devstack changes passed on these nova patches | 13:13 |
| cdent | mriedem: they have to some extent, but need to be changed into order to work with grenade | 13:13 |
| * cdent locates link | 13:13 | |
| cdent | #link nova-wsgi devstack https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457715/ | 13:14 |
| cdent | that's all happy except for grenade | 13:14 |
| mriedem | need help with the grenade stuff? | 13:15 |
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| mriedem | reading the steps it looks like just setting a flag in grenade to not use wsgi, | 13:15 |
| mriedem | and devstack on master would use wsgi by default | 13:15 |
| mriedem | i don't know what "We honestly probably also need to do the systemd cut over before this to simplify the world." means though | 13:15 |
| cdent | mriedem: maybe, sdague had some comments that mostly mean me putting some stuff back into lib/nova | 13:15 |
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| mriedem | yeah you can't remove the non-wsgi stuff yet | 13:16 |
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| mriedem | probably in queens | 13:16 |
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| cdent | wasn't planning to remove it, just planning to not test it ;) | 13:16 |
| cdent | but yeah, agree | 13:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | so I have a quick thing | 13:16 |
| sdague | mriedem: there are some edge conditions around uwsgi without system that's weird | 13:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | the pbr names | 13:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think we have nova-metadata-api and nova-api-metadata | 13:17 |
| cdent | they need to be different | 13:17 |
| cdent | or else they clobber | 13:17 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, agreed need to be different | 13:17 |
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| johnthetubaguy | just seems confusing | 13:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | nova-metadata-wsgi? | 13:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | maybe thats worse | 13:18 |
| cdent | yeah, could do that | 13:18 |
| cdent | heh | 13:18 |
| * cdent naming is hard | 13:18 | |
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| * johnthetubaguy nods | 13:18 | |
| sdague | yeh, -wsgi is probably better | 13:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | I can see me screwing that up | 13:19 |
| sdague | well, the theory is that the eventlet path is deprecated in pike and removed in queens right? | 13:19 |
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| sdague | the screw up window is small | 13:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | I thought so | 13:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | thats true | 13:20 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so I am not the best at decisions, cdent whats your take on the best way forward? | 13:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh, I guess we need a reno in this chain of patches somewhere | 13:21 |
| cdent | I think nova-metadata-wsgi is fine, maps to nova-api-wsgi | 13:21 |
| alex_xu | cdent: also metion the doc | 13:21 |
| alex_xu | s/metion/mention/ | 13:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I guess its always wsgi, so no halm in that being there | 13:22 |
| alex_xu | but i guess that doc isn' in the nova repo | 13:22 |
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| sdague | we also need to figure out how not to repeat the placement api documentation gap here | 13:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | do we have many other projects doing similar PBR names, out of curiosity, I have really kept track of that effort? | 13:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: +1 | 13:23 |
| cdent | i can make some of those adjustment later today | 13:23 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: I honestly don't know how far anyone else got here | 13:23 |
| mriedem | it'd be in the governance repo | 13:24 |
| mriedem | for the release goal | 13:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: something tells me OSIC folks volunteered for some of that | 13:24 |
| sdague | I was trying to get the uwsgi and systemd plumbing all in before too many folks did | 13:24 |
| mriedem | EmilienM might know | 13:24 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: yeh | 13:24 |
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| mriedem | before we deprecate eventlet we have to be running with wsgi on master in CI | 13:24 |
| sdague | mriedem: sure | 13:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/pike/deploy-api-in-wsgi.html | 13:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | seems lots of folks haven't got their responses merged yet | 13:25 |
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| sdague | "These projects already deploy devstack with API service via WSGI" is pretty error prone as well, as I don't know which of those are wsgi by default | 13:26 |
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| johnthetubaguy | in case its useful, this is keystone: #link https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/setup.cfg#L81 | 13:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | keystone-wsgi-admin and keystone-wsgi-public | 13:28 |
| * johnthetubaguy shrugs | 13:29 | |
| cdent | I didn't do it that way because of grenade's grep style for checking if services are running | 13:29 |
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| cdent | however, since the grep will be against the uwsgi process's command line, not the name of the wsgi script it may not matter | 13:29 |
| alex_xu | Will all the projecs switch to uwsgi? or part of them use apache mod_wsgi? | 13:29 |
| cdent | (I wanted to be able to grep either nova-api the eventlet thing, or nova-api the uwsgi thing) | 13:30 |
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| sdague | alex_xu: I want to remove the mod_wsgi bits from devstack | 13:31 |
| alex_xu | sdague: ok, got it | 13:31 |
| sdague | it's actually kind of error prone in our environment because any apache restart ends up taking all the api services offline for a noticable amount of time | 13:31 |
| sdague | whereas when things are in uwsgi state you can do restarts of services seperated from restarts of apache (and apache restarts are much quicker) | 13:32 |
| alex_xu | yea | 13:33 |
| sdague | cdent: yeh, so once we get across to systemd this cycle, all the grenade stuff can be so much smarter on status tracking | 13:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | so adding an extra alias later seems rather cheap, sounds like we are getting to the bottom of some of the details though, which is awesome | 13:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | whats next on the agenda? | 13:36 |
| alex_xu | that is all for priorities | 13:36 |
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| alex_xu | and I checked the merged specs | 13:37 |
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| alex_xu | and BPs | 13:37 |
| alex_xu | we have 13 API related BPs approved | 13:37 |
| alex_xu | all of them have patches up | 13:37 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I think that patch still makes sense as a safety measure, fwiw | 13:38 |
| mriedem | the novaclient changes for 2.43, 2.44 and 2.45 are ready | 13:38 |
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| alex_xu | mriedem: yea | 13:39 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459496/ | 13:39 |
| alex_xu | ^ just left the client patch, then they are finish | 13:39 |
| alex_xu | that is all I have | 13:40 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: per your comments on the shell and using wraps | 13:41 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: yea | 13:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | did we get the tags stuff all fixed already? | 13:41 |
| mriedem | the shell will still pass through to the api binding which will fail with a 404 | 13:41 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: but if we cap the shell, it will fail before we emit any deprecation warning | 13:41 |
| mriedem | and the deprecation warning says, "Specify --os-compute-api-version less than ' | 13:42 |
| mriedem | '2.43 to continue using this command until it is removed" | 13:42 |
| alex_xu | we will have help text in the `nova help` | 13:42 |
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| mriedem | it's a 404 either way, but you get the more detailed deprecation warning this way | 13:42 |
| mriedem | is my point | 13:42 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: what tags stuff? | 13:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | the device tags | 13:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | we accidentally dropped it, then had to re-add it | 13:43 |
| mriedem | that was 2.42 | 13:43 |
| mriedem | takashin fixed that in novaclient | 13:43 |
| mriedem | very nicely | 13:43 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: ok, I can test that later. I remember we will hide that command | 13:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, good, so this is all on top of that | 13:44 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: i don't think we can hide it | 13:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | I hadn't seen that go in | 13:44 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: that would be like dropping it w/o a warning | 13:44 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: yup | 13:44 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: we also said in the spec we wouldn't automatically drop down a microversion in the shell | 13:44 |
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| mriedem | so users can still use the deprecated shell but they have to opt in with the --os-compute-api-version option | 13:45 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: whatever the commands will be failed, since the api returned 404 | 13:45 |
| mriedem | right, unless you specify 2.1 or 2.42, or something in between | 13:46 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: even we added that decorator, the user also can use that command with --os-compute-api-version option | 13:46 |
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| alex_xu | mriedem: anyway, let me check that again after the meeting | 13:47 |
| alex_xu | anything more people want to bring up? | 13:47 |
| alex_xu | ok, let us close the meeting thanks all! | 13:48 |
| alex_xu | #endmeeting | 13:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 26 13:48:22 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-04-26-13.00.html | 13:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-04-26-13.00.txt | 13:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-04-26-13.00.log.html | 13:48 |
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| inc0 | #startmeeting kolla | 15:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 26 15:59:20 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is inc0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 15:59 |
| hrw | o/ | 15:59 |
| spsurya_ | 0/ | 15:59 |
| rwellum | o/ | 15:59 |
| inc0 | #topic w00t for Kolla! | 15:59 |
| duonghq | o/ wo0t | 15:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "w00t for Kolla! (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:59 | |
| egonzalez | w00t o/ | 15:59 |
| berendt | o/ woot | 15:59 |
| sbezverk | o/ | 15:59 |
| inc0 | loudly please | 15:59 |
| inc0 | WOOT! | 15:59 |
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| duonghq | hrw, spsurya_ rwellum are very eager members :P | 16:00 |
| spsurya_ | woot! | 16:00 |
| jascott1 | woot | 16:00 |
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| Jeffrey4l | woot | 16:00 |
| kfox1111 | o/ | 16:00 |
| * hrw is used to o/ form | 16:00 | |
| blallau | o/ | 16:00 |
| inc0 | let's give few more minutes | 16:01 |
| rwellum | ^o^ | 16:01 |
| duonghq | today we have time :P | 16:01 |
| inc0 | yeah | 16:01 |
| inc0 | also attendance is somewhat small | 16:01 |
| inc0 | wonder why | 16:02 |
| inc0 | this whole week is quiet | 16:02 |
| hrw | quiet? I got many patches merged ;D | 16:02 |
| duonghq | so, next week may be even more quite | 16:02 |
| inc0 | irc-wise | 16:02 |
| kfox1111 | some folks preping for the summit. some other busy things going on. | 16:02 |
| inc0 | yeah, it's this pre-summit time, we might cancel next 2 meetings | 16:02 |
| spsurya_ | inc0: may be people are little busy for summit | 16:02 |
| hrw | inc0: next one is summit time so +1 for cancel | 16:03 |
| inc0 | ok let's move on | 16:03 |
| inc0 | #topic Announcements | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:03 | |
| inc0 | nothign from me, anything from community? | 16:03 |
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| duonghq | who will go to Boston :P | 16:04 |
| inc0 | well, one thing, again will need mentors on workshops in summit | 16:04 |
| Serlex | I will be there | 16:04 |
| hrw | duonghq: I won't | 16:04 |
| rwellum | Going too. | 16:04 |
| hrw | May is quite busy with family things | 16:04 |
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| inc0 | ok, moving on | 16:05 |
| egonzalez | inc0 i'm not going to boston, but if need help remotelly for anything let me know | 16:05 |
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| inc0 | #topic Mixing binary and source image (daidv) | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Mixing binary and source image (daidv) (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:05 | |
| inc0 | egonzalez: wouldn't od that to you, it'll be pretty late in Europe | 16:06 |
| inc0 | anyway duonghq I guess you're taking this one? | 16:06 |
| duonghq | thank inc0, I cannot contact daidv, so I'll take over the topic, | 16:06 |
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| blallau | I can't be there | 16:06 |
| duonghq | currently, we only allow users deploy whole system using binary or source images | 16:06 |
| inc0 | duonghq: not really | 16:06 |
| inc0 | you can always override images per service | 16:07 |
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| inc0 | nova_compute_image_full | 16:07 |
| inc0 | less convenient, but doable | 16:07 |
| duonghq | ah, yeah, so I just discover it last week, but forgot that I found it :P, quite cumbersome but ok | 16:07 |
| inc0 | I agree, but on the other hand it's not exactly common use case | 16:08 |
| duonghq | it's better if we can give user option to make all service (e.g. nova) use one install_type | 16:08 |
| Jeffrey4l | there are some sevice not. for example horizon. the configuration depends on install_type, | 16:08 |
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| Jeffrey4l | this can be treated as a bug. | 16:08 |
| kfox1111 | kolla-kubernetes can override from binary <-> source for any image or any service. | 16:09 |
| inc0 | good point Jeffrey4l | 16:09 |
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| duonghq | kfox1111, kolla-k8s has many cool features over ansible :P | 16:09 |
| inc0 | well it's very easy patchset too | 16:09 |
| hrw | for some distros there are no binary images while sources ones exist | 16:09 |
| Jeffrey4l | kolla-ansible is using meta/requirements feature. which stop change install_type. | 16:09 |
| inc0 | nova_install_type = {{ install_type }} in defaults | 16:09 |
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| Jeffrey4l | but, anyway, this is not a big issue. There will be a solution. like inc0 ^ | 16:10 |
| duonghq | sure, just enhancement | 16:10 |
| Jeffrey4l | another solution is: remove the install_type in configuration files. | 16:10 |
| kfox1111 | just saying, if you wanted a place to test src/bin hybrids, it would be very easy to test there. | 16:10 |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l: I'd avoid change config files | 16:11 |
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| inc0 | because of backwards compatibility | 16:11 |
| sbezverk | kfox1111: care should be taken when mixing source and binary. I hit some unpleasant issues when config was generqated for binary but image was used for source .. | 16:12 |
| Jeffrey4l | end-user should use the same kolla and kolla-ansible, then it do not have backwards issue. | 16:12 |
| Jeffrey4l | the root cause is: https://github.com/openstack/kolla-ansible/blob/master/ansible/roles/horizon/templates/horizon.conf.j2#L1 | 16:12 |
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| inc0 | anyway, there are ways | 16:12 |
| Jeffrey4l | we can use some magic here. for example, if /var/lib/kolla/venv/lib/python2.7 exist, use it. otherise, use /usr/share/openstack-dashboard. | 16:13 |
| inc0 | I'd guess (besides horizon maybe) it's just matter of switching image_full | 16:13 |
| kfox1111 | sbezverk: interesting. | 16:13 |
| Jeffrey4l | yep. i guess so. | 16:13 |
| kfox1111 | there's stuff hardcoded to care one way or the other? | 16:13 |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l: I'd rather play with defaults | 16:13 |
| inc0 | duonghq: anything else on this one? | 16:13 |
| sbezverk | kfox1111: all wsgi containers will have issues is config type and image type is not consistent | 16:13 |
| kfox1111 | would be nice to fix those sorts of issues in the image rather then the config if possible. | 16:13 |
| duonghq | inc0, no atm | 16:13 |
| kfox1111 | sbezverk: do they point to different places in the container? | 16:14 |
| inc0 | #topic Tarball URLs (daidv) | 16:14 |
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| duonghq | I think other issues can be fix one-by-one | 16:14 |
| sbezverk | kfox1111: yep | 16:14 |
| duonghq | sbezverk, kfox1111 may I move to the current topic? | 16:15 |
| Jeffrey4l | i think this topic is talked. daidv asked me that why we use tag tarball rather than branch tarball for kolla stable branch. | 16:15 |
| kfox1111 | sbezverk: I wonder if we can just get some stretegically placed symlinks into the images. | 16:15 |
| kfox1111 | duonghq: sure. | 16:15 |
| duonghq | Jeffrey4l, hmm, so how about the conclusion? | 16:15 |
| Jeffrey4l | no. | 16:16 |
| hrw | Jeffrey4l: tag tarball is always the same. branch can get new commits so new tarball so no reproducible builds? | 16:16 |
| Jeffrey4l | nova stable/ocata is still develop branch. | 16:16 |
| Jeffrey4l | it is unstable. | 16:16 |
| inc0 | well it's stable but less tested than tag | 16:16 |
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| inc0 | but yeah, stable will still gets backported bugfixes | 16:17 |
| inc0 | which might or might not be required, depends on your comfort zone | 16:17 |
| Jeffrey4l | unless we implement kolla tag with change all stable-tarball into tag tarball. | 16:17 |
| hrw | then stable can do tag with changelog and we can move to new tag | 16:17 |
| inc0 | security updates are best served fresh | 16:17 |
| Jeffrey4l | now, we update kolla stable tag regularly. | 16:18 |
| inc0 | on that note, it would be great to have kolla tag to deploy stable tags of services | 16:18 |
| Jeffrey4l | hope we can do this automitically. | 16:18 |
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| inc0 | while kolla stable/ocata branch point to stable/ocata branch in services | 16:18 |
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| inc0 | not sure how to do it with openstack release | 16:19 |
| inc0 | process | 16:19 |
| inc0 | besides pushing patch with new versions, tagging, reverting patch to tip of branch | 16:19 |
| inc0 | ideas about that? | 16:20 |
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| Jeffrey4l | update openstack service tag automitically? or? | 16:21 |
| hrw | Jeffrey4l: add a hook in openstack release which would ping kolla bot to bump? | 16:21 |
| inc0 | tag automation shouldn't be hard python script | 16:21 |
| inc0 | but having tip of the stable branch on our stable branch | 16:22 |
| Jeffrey4l | hrw, should be possible. | 16:22 |
| inc0 | all the time | 16:22 |
| Jeffrey4l | inc0, this is more hard. no idea on this . | 16:22 |
| inc0 | yeah | 16:23 |
| inc0 | well, something to think about tho | 16:23 |
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| hrw | Jeffrey4l: Fedora infrastructure uses fedmsg to announce whatever happens so each project can listen and react to data in own way | 16:23 |
| Jeffrey4l | there should no pre-release patch concept, i think,which is pushed before real release patch. | 16:23 |
| inc0 | maybe something for Q tho | 16:24 |
| inc0 | we can start designing this | 16:24 |
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| inc0 | I hope to have lots of stuff to design after summit | 16:24 |
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| inc0 | ok, anything else? | 16:25 |
| Jeffrey4l | hrw, i think there is a job,which run after each project is released. if so, we can inject some script to push a patch. | 16:25 |
| hrw | Jeffrey4l: cool | 16:25 |
| Jeffrey4l | just thoughts. not sure ;) | 16:25 |
| Jeffrey4l | please move on . | 16:26 |
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| inc0 | or just overhaul genconfig | 16:26 |
| inc0 | to do something like genconfig --tag or genconfig --stable-branch | 16:26 |
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| duonghq | inc0, +1 quick and simple idea | 16:27 |
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| Jeffrey4l | genconfig just generate a kolla-build.conf.sample file. all the real value is fixed in code. | 16:27 |
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| Jeffrey4l | sample file is full of commented. | 16:27 |
| inc0 | well you can specify it in kolla-build.conf | 16:27 |
| inc0 | ah | 16:27 |
| inc0 | true | 16:27 |
| inc0 | well | 16:27 |
| inc0 | but you get my idea - some script to generate either one or another | 16:28 |
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| Jeffrey4l | maybe ./build.py --openstack tag/branch | 16:28 |
| Jeffrey4l | maybe ./build.py --openstack-release [tag/branch] lol | 16:28 |
| inc0 | maybe that | 16:28 |
| inc0 | well, I think we need to have this discussion | 16:29 |
| inc0 | with broader community | 16:29 |
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| inc0 | I'll buy a beer for anyone who will prototype this mechanism:) | 16:29 |
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| inc0 | ok guys, this meeting is not very busy;) let's move on | 16:30 |
| hrw | ;D | 16:30 |
| inc0 | and wrap up earlier | 16:30 |
| hrw | I have to quit in 15 minutes | 16:30 |
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| inc0 | to have some life back of our days;) | 16:30 |
| inc0 | #topic non-x86 q&a (hrw) | 16:31 |
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| hrw | ok, anyone has questions about kolla on non-x86 platforms? | 16:31 |
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| hrw | non-x86 == aarch64 (arm64) and ppc64le | 16:31 |
| inc0 | why just not use Intel? :P | 16:31 |
| hrw | inc0: it is easier for me to get aarch64 machines than intel ones | 16:32 |
| hrw | inc0: ppc64le I do as a favour ;D | 16:32 |
| inc0 | lol | 16:32 |
| duonghq | because cointainer should be floating on the ocean (j/k) | 16:32 |
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| hrw | next question | 16:32 |
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| duonghq | do you have any demo at Boston? | 16:33 |
| hrw | duonghq: I am not there. ask Gema will she show something | 16:33 |
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| duonghq | ah, hoped that I can meet you | 16:33 |
| hrw | May is busy time for me family wise | 16:34 |
| duonghq | got it | 16:34 |
| hrw | hope to go to PTG but it would mean 3 weeks of jetlag or money loss to stay for a week in USA | 16:34 |
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| duonghq | aww, jet lag :( | 16:34 |
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| inc0 | hrw: usually week is enough to heal up jetlag | 16:34 |
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| hrw | anyway catch Gema during summit - she knows out plan for 3rdparty CI etc | 16:35 |
| inc0 | cool | 16:35 |
| hrw | inc0: europe -> USA for PTG -> Europe -> USA for Linaro Connect -> europe | 16:35 |
| duonghq | I get a week to recovery from VN->US jet lag, and another for US->VN | 16:35 |
| hrw | inc0: jetlag in us, then in europe, then in us, then in europe - even 4 weekd :( | 16:35 |
| inc0 | cool:) | 16:36 |
| inc0 | ok, can we wrap up? | 16:36 |
| duonghq | mins | 16:36 |
| duonghq | egonzalez, ping | 16:36 |
| hrw | no other questions then yes | 16:36 |
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| inc0 | #topic open discussion | 16:36 |
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| duonghq | o/ | 16:37 |
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| egonzalez | duonghq sup | 16:37 |
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| duonghq | egonzalez, I think we can raise our ps about ks 0-downtime upgrade here? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425446/ | 16:37 |
| vhosakot | o/ (sorry I'm late as I was at an appointment) | 16:38 |
| duonghq | vhosakot, hi | 16:38 |
| vhosakot | duonghq: | 16:38 |
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| egonzalez | I was working today to fit keystone 0-downtime with serial change some weeks ago | 16:38 |
| spsurya_ | duonghq: egonzalez as per our last discussion it will land in pike | 16:39 |
| vhosakot | inc0: sdake: all, I'm giving a presentation about kolla and kolla-kubernetes at Red Hat summit next week. would like to discuss about it for 2 mins at the end :) | 16:39 |
| egonzalez | the issue is that current serial implementation does not allow overrides in playbooks, needed for zero-dowtime upgrade of neutron and keystone | 16:39 |
| spsurya_ | not in master IIRC | 16:39 |
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| egonzalez | spsurya_ master will be pike ;) | 16:39 |
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| duonghq | egonzalez, iirc, can we take idea from ceph? | 16:40 |
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| spsurya_ | egonzalez: yes | 16:40 |
| inc0 | vhosakot: can we do it in #kolla channel? | 16:42 |
| vhosakot | inc0: cool, that is good :) | 16:42 |
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| inc0 | soo... duonghq anything else? | 16:42 |
| duonghq | inc0, no, | 16:42 |
| duonghq | thank youn | 16:43 |
| duonghq | you | 16:43 |
| inc0 | ok, thank you all for coming:) | 16:43 |
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| inc0 | hope to see at least some of you in Boston | 16:43 |
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| inc0 | #endmeeting kolla | 16:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 26 16:43:34 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-04-26-15.59.html | 16:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-04-26-15.59.txt | 16:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-04-26-15.59.log.html | 16:43 |
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