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| lihi | #startmeeting Dragonflow | 09:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 24 09:01:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lihi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'dragonflow' | 09:01 |
| lihi | Hi all. Omer is unavailable today, so he asked me to run the meeting | 09:01 |
| dimak_ | Hey lihi | 09:01 |
| lihi | Anyone else here for the weekly dragonflow meeting? | 09:02 |
| * yamamoto lurking | 09:02 | |
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| xiaohhui | hi | 09:03 |
| lihi | #info dimak_ and xiaohhui is in the meeting. yamamoto is lurking :) | 09:04 |
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| lihi | #topic Roadmap | 09:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roadmap (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:04 | |
| lihi | I'll start with IPv6 | 09:05 |
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| lihi | I've started working on adding IPv6 support to portsec. Right now it look like it wont be too complicated. | 09:05 |
| lihi | dimak_, any updates to the SFC? | 09:06 |
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| dimak_ | Its a bit on hold, I need lport migration to make some progress | 09:06 |
| lihi | ok | 09:07 |
| dimak_ | Because I don't think we'll get it to merge before lport anyway | 09:07 |
| dimak_ | and I cannot test it otherwise | 09:07 |
| dimak_ | Thats about it | 09:08 |
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| lihi | NorthBound API refactor | 09:08 |
| dimak_ | I've uploaded Publisher migration | 09:09 |
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| lihi | I think Omer is also going well with the lport | 09:10 |
| lihi | And the SG is closed to be merged | 09:10 |
| dimak_ | I've posted some comments on the SG patch | 09:11 |
| dimak_ | over all looks very good | 09:11 |
| lihi | Thanks | 09:11 |
| lihi | Moving on to BGP. xiaohhui, any updates? | 09:12 |
| xiaohhui | I have a bunch of patches, I think I am going well on it. | 09:12 |
| xiaohhui | But none of them get merged yet. :( | 09:13 |
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| dimak_ | I've reviewed a couple of those, I'll make sure to review the rest later on today | 09:13 |
| xiaohhui | thanks | 09:13 |
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| lihi | Me too. Overall, they looks good | 09:14 |
| lihi | Is there anything more for the roadmap? | 09:14 |
| dimak_ | Nothing on my side | 09:15 |
| lihi | Ok then | 09:15 |
| xiaohhui | me too | 09:15 |
| lihi | #topic Open Discussion | 09:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:15 | |
| lihi | If anyone wants to bring something up, go ahead :) | 09:16 |
| dimak_ | I've ported the QoS driver, got a review from xiaohhui. Lihi if you have some time please take a look. | 09:17 |
| lihi | Sure. Will look at it later today | 09:17 |
| dimak_ | It's here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458535/ | 09:17 |
| xiaohhui | I will look at it later today too. | 09:18 |
| dimak_ | Thanks | 09:18 |
| lihi | Any other items? | 09:18 |
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| lihi | All right. Thanks everyone for coming! | 09:19 |
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| lihi | #endmeeting | 09:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 09:20 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 24 09:20:01 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:20 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2017/dragonflow.2017-04-24-09.01.html | 09:20 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2017/dragonflow.2017-04-24-09.01.txt | 09:20 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2017/dragonflow.2017-04-24-09.01.log.html | 09:20 |
| xiaohhui | bye~ | 09:20 |
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| admcleod | !help | 09:53 |
| openstack | admcleod: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. | 09:53 |
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| joedborg | hello all | 10:00 |
| joedborg | #startmeeting charms | 10:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 24 10:00:08 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is joedborg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 10:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 10:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'charms' | 10:00 |
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| tinwood | o/ | 10:00 |
| vds | o/ | 10:00 |
| joedborg | o/ | 10:00 |
| joedborg | are you on Dmitrii-Sh | 10:00 |
| Dmitrii-Sh | joedborg: ack | 10:01 |
| Dmitrii-Sh | joedborg: prepping for the demo - busy | 10:01 |
| joedborg | The ethapad has "Dmitrii-Sh track the network-binding not being able to be changed after deploy/add-unit." for review - did you want to discuss that? | 10:01 |
| Dmitrii-Sh | joedborg: we decided to stop tracking this here as this is a major feature | 10:02 |
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| Dmitrii-Sh | joedborg: once it's there I will come back to that | 10:02 |
| joedborg | Dmitrii-Sh: ok! | 10:02 |
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| tinwood | okay, we can remove that action point then. thanks Dmitrii-Sh | 10:03 |
| joedborg | #topic Charm Release | 10:03 |
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| Dmitrii-Sh | tinwood: yw, this is not an easy task for the juju team but I am definitely tracking it ) | 10:03 |
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| tinwood | Dmitrii-Sh: that's great. Thanks for keeping an eye on it. | 10:04 |
| joedborg | there's a point in Charm release "next Ubuntu release will be an 'a' (coming after z) -- still landing the alpha comparison changes to the charms. | 10:04 |
| tinwood | yeah, that's mine. | 10:04 |
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| tinwood | It's just a reminder that I'm still pushing through the changes on ... | 10:04 |
| tinwood | charm-helpers in to all of the charms that ... | 10:04 |
| tinwood | fix the alpha comparisons on ubuntu releases and openstack releases. | 10:05 |
| tinwood | With the next dev version now being an 'a' ... | 10:05 |
| tinwood | there's a bit of urgency! | 10:05 |
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| tinwood | So I'm going to try to push them through today and the rest of the week. | 10:05 |
| joedborg | tinwood: thanks | 10:06 |
| joedborg | Anything else on charm release? | 10:06 |
| tinwood | Remaining ones: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:fix-alpha-comparisons-1659575+is:open | 10:06 |
| tinwood | Not from me. | 10:06 |
| joedborg | #topic Bugs | 10:07 |
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| joedborg | Anything on bugs? | 10:07 |
| Dmitrii-Sh | https://bugs.launchpad.net/charm-ceph-radosgw/+bug/1685536 | 10:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1685536 in OpenStack ceph-radosgw charm "radosgw charm doesn't report an error even though a swift endpoint is not present due to storage provider init failure" [Undecided,New] | 10:07 |
| Dmitrii-Sh | restrict-ceph-pools set to true seems to have a dramatic effect on the radosgw daemon | 10:08 |
| Dmitrii-Sh | the fun part is that it fails to init but still returns 0 exit code | 10:09 |
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| Dmitrii-Sh | hence the systemd unit stays active | 10:09 |
| Dmitrii-Sh | and there's no indication in juju status of the failure | 10:09 |
| tinwood | Dmitrii-Sh: any workarounds? | 10:09 |
| Dmitrii-Sh | tinwood: not that I know of yet besides disabling that option | 10:10 |
| Dmitrii-Sh | tinwood: James made a comment about it I will take a look after the demo | 10:10 |
| Dmitrii-Sh | just a heads-up on that - it takes a quite a bit of time to debug | 10:10 |
| tinwood | Dmitrii-Sh: okay. | 10:10 |
| joedborg | Any more? | 10:11 |
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| joedborg | #topic Events | 10:11 |
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| joedborg | I guess this'll be a quick one | 10:11 |
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| tinwood | joedborg: I was just going to say that we'll be having another bug thursday soon, but not sure when. I'll ping james on it. | 10:12 |
| joedborg | tinwood: ah sorry, i didn't leave enough time | 10:12 |
| tinwood | np | 10:12 |
| joedborg | Anything for events? Boston is listed on the agenda but not sure there's much to add | 10:12 |
| tinwood | action: tinwood ask jamespage about bug day | 10:13 |
| tinwood | #action tinwood ask jamespage about bug day | 10:13 |
| tinwood | The Canonical OpenStack team will be at Boston. | 10:13 |
| joedborg | Anything more on events? | 10:14 |
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| tinwood | And we'll be doing training, etc. on charms. | 10:14 |
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| tinwood | that's it from me. | 10:15 |
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| joedborg | #topic Open Discussion | 10:15 |
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| jamespage | o/ | 10:15 |
| tinwood | \o jamespage | 10:15 |
| jamespage | sorry I'm late - got caught otp | 10:15 |
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| joedborg | no worries jamespage | 10:16 |
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| jamespage | bug days - yes - we normally do the first thursday of the month which would be next week I think | 10:17 |
| jamespage | that would be just before the summit | 10:17 |
| jamespage | I'll send out a notice this week and a reminder next week | 10:17 |
| tinwood | thanks jamespage | 10:17 |
| jamespage | we should target some of the top offenders - I'll generate a list of URL's | 10:17 |
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| jamespage | all yours joedborg | 10:18 |
| joedborg | thanks jamespage! | 10:18 |
| joedborg | any other topics from anyone? | 10:18 |
| tinwood | No, I'm good. | 10:19 |
| joedborg | going once... | 10:19 |
| joedborg | okay, thanks all | 10:20 |
| joedborg | #endmeeting | 10:20 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 24 10:20:33 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:20 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2017/charms.2017-04-24-10.00.html | 10:20 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2017/charms.2017-04-24-10.00.txt | 10:20 |
| tinwood | thanks joedborg | 10:20 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2017/charms.2017-04-24-10.00.log.html | 10:20 |
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| Dmitrii-Sh | joedborg: ta | 10:20 |
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| apuimedo | #startmeeting kuryr | 14:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 24 14:01:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is apuimedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kuryr' | 14:01 |
| apuimedo | Welcome everybody to the weekly kuryr IRC meeting | 14:01 |
| apuimedo | Who's here today? | 14:01 |
| garyloug | o/ | 14:01 |
| mchiappero | o/ | 14:01 |
| dmellado | o/ Hi folks! | 14:01 |
| ivc | o/ | 14:01 |
| limao | o/ | 14:01 |
| ltomasbo | o/ | 14:02 |
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| apuimedo | oops | 14:02 |
| alraddarla_ | o/ | 14:02 |
| apuimedo | I just wanted to say hi limao | 14:02 |
| kzaitsev_ws | o/ | 14:02 |
| dmellado | apuimedo: you were late | 14:03 |
| hongbin | o/ | 14:03 |
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| apuimedo | :-) | 14:03 |
| apuimedo | let's get the party started | 14:03 |
| apuimedo | #topic kuryr-libnetwork | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "kuryr-libnetwork (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:03 | |
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| apuimedo | #info Last week we got some devstack fixes for when both kuryr-libnetwork and fuxi are selected | 14:04 |
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| apuimedo | thanks hongbin | 14:04 |
| apuimedo | we are still pending the managed mode v2 | 14:05 |
| apuimedo | from limao | 14:05 |
| apuimedo | mostly because I didn't get around to test it yet | 14:05 |
| apuimedo | limao: how hard would it be (I know that we'd need to push to dockerhub) to have an option in devstack to run it in v2 mode? | 14:05 |
| dmellado | are there major config options differences between the current mode and v2? | 14:06 |
| apuimedo | kzaitsev_ws: I saw you performed some necromancy and resurrected https://review.openstack.org/#/c/374315/ | 14:06 |
| limao | apuimedo: Do you mean in the devstack build plugin v2 and push into docker, then download it and run test with it? | 14:06 |
| kzaitsev_ws | ah sorry =) | 14:07 |
| kzaitsev_ws | I just use a gerrit-dashboard, that list me patches I haven't reviewed | 14:07 |
| kzaitsev_ws | so yeah, sometimes this happens ) | 14:07 |
| apuimedo | kzaitsev_ws: no, that's fine | 14:07 |
| limao | dmellado: for kuryr.conf itself, they are almost same. | 14:07 |
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| apuimedo | kzaitsev_ws: I wanted to ask if you think you can take it over to target the pike goal of uwsgi compliance | 14:07 |
| dmellado | kzaitsev_ws: gertty? :D | 14:08 |
| dmellado | limao: thanks for the clarification ;) | 14:08 |
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| apuimedo | limao: Is there the possibility of just building it and then have docker run the container locally? | 14:08 |
| kzaitsev_ws | yeah, that shouldn't be hard and I should have enough time to get it done =) | 14:08 |
| apuimedo | thanks kzaitsev_ws | 14:09 |
| limao | dmellado: I tested pluginv2 works well for me if you run in scope local, when it run in swarm mode, it still have some problem. | 14:09 |
| limao | apuimedo: Yes | 14:09 |
| apuimedo | #action kzaitsev_ws to take over https://review.openstack.org/#/c/374315/ to target uwsgi compliance | 14:09 |
| apuimedo | kzaitsev_ws: remember to add a reno note when you fix it | 14:09 |
| kzaitsev_ws | sure =) | 14:09 |
| apuimedo | limao: so then we can have it in devstack without pushing to dockerhub | 14:09 |
| apuimedo | I think it would be a great addition to the patch | 14:09 |
| limao | apuimedo : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451479/5/README.rst | 14:10 |
| apuimedo | (and would make it easier for reviewers to reproduce) | 14:10 |
| dmellado | limao: got it, +1 to apuimedo question | 14:10 |
| dmellado | but I guess it'll be easier if I just get there and review the patch | 14:10 |
| dmellado | which is on my TODO xD | 14:10 |
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| apuimedo | limao: is it able to do the plugin install from the local container if you do the docker build -t kuryr/libnetworkv2 ? | 14:11 |
| limao | apuimedo: let me update the patch, I seperate the doc in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451479/5 | 14:11 |
| apuimedo | and then you do docker plugin install kuryr/libnetworkv2 | 14:11 |
| apuimedo | ? | 14:11 |
| limao | apuimedo: Yes , it can | 14:11 |
| apuimedo | cool | 14:11 |
| apuimedo | limao: do you agree to change it to that and putting it in devstack for this patch, or you prefer a follow-up patch? | 14:12 |
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| irenab | apuimedo: better to have it easily testable as it merges | 14:12 |
| apuimedo | agreed | 14:12 |
| limao | apuimedo: irenab: let me update it in this patch | 14:12 |
| apuimedo | perfect | 14:12 |
| apuimedo | thanks a lot limao! | 14:12 |
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| apuimedo | limao: btw, the name in dockerhub will be kuryr/libnetworkv2 | 14:13 |
| apuimedo | so change it to that | 14:13 |
| limao | apuimedo: Sure | 14:13 |
| apuimedo | #action limao to update the libnetwork v2 patch to enable it on devstack | 14:14 |
| apuimedo | perfect! | 14:14 |
| apuimedo | anything else on kuryr-libnetwork? | 14:14 |
| limao | apuimedo: did you get any chance to ask kolla member how to upload to dockerhub? | 14:14 |
| apuimedo | limao: nope | 14:14 |
| apuimedo | I'll repeat the action | 14:14 |
| apuimedo | and open the kolla irc channel so I make sure to remember | 14:14 |
| apuimedo | #action apuimedo to ask inc0 about pushing the images to dockerhub | 14:15 |
| limao | apuimedo: so in devstack patch do you mind I build pluginv2 locally and install it locally? | 14:15 |
| dmellado | apuimedo: limao I've a friend who's kolla-core, I'll ping him | 14:15 |
| apuimedo | limao: right | 14:15 |
| limao | apuimedo: get it, thanks dmellado! | 14:15 |
| apuimedo | done | 14:16 |
| apuimedo | I just sent the question | 14:16 |
| apuimedo | #topic fuxi | 14:16 |
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| hongbin | hi | 14:16 |
| apuimedo | #chair hongbin | 14:17 |
| openstack | Current chairs: apuimedo hongbin | 14:17 |
| apuimedo | Hi hongbin | 14:17 |
| apuimedo | I +2ed the spec | 14:17 |
| hongbin | thx | 14:17 |
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| hongbin | for others, would appreciate your reviews on this spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452554/10 | 14:17 |
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| irenab | hongbin: I will review as well | 14:17 |
| apuimedo | I find the fact that the first stage will be having a fuxi rest server on master and worker nodes good | 14:17 |
| hongbin | apuimedo: i will address your comment in the next PS | 14:17 |
| dmellado | hongbin: I'll review that too, hopefully I'll be able to allocate some time | 14:17 |
| apuimedo | hongbin: but yes, please make an image to reflect that | 14:17 |
| hongbin | apuimedo: sure | 14:18 |
| apuimedo | hongbin: also, I suggest to have the rest server bind to only localhost | 14:18 |
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| hongbin | apuimedo: ok, i can specify this part | 14:18 |
| apuimedo | since there is no auth between the k8s fuxi components and the rest server | 14:18 |
| apuimedo | thanks hongbin! | 14:18 |
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| hongbin | yes, that is fro the spec | 14:18 |
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| hongbin | in addition, there are several patches on the fuxi side | 14:18 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457694/ | 14:19 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457363/ | 14:19 |
| hongbin | these two patches need reviews as well :) | 14:19 |
| hongbin | apuimedo: that is all from my side | 14:19 |
| apuimedo | #action apuimedo to review the above links | 14:20 |
| apuimedo | thanks hongbin | 14:20 |
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| apuimedo | #topic kuryr-kubernetes | 14:20 |
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| apuimedo | #info last week we held a videoconf meeting about an actor refactor proposal | 14:20 |
| apuimedo | #info The meeting touched mostly on "flavors/profiles", leaving the actor part for a later time | 14:21 |
| dmellado | apuimedo: irenab regarding that I was thinking that maybe we can have a follow-up on that so we can include people who couldn't attend | 14:21 |
| apuimedo | #action apuimedo to upload the darned video once and for all | 14:21 |
| dmellado | + including fullstack testing discussion | 14:21 |
| apuimedo | dmellado: I have to upload the video so they can have more context | 14:21 |
| apuimedo | :/ | 14:21 |
| irenab | apuimedo: any decision? | 14:21 |
| ivc | apuimedo are you still transcoding? :) | 14:22 |
| ltomasbo | apuimedo, good idea, as I would like to re-check ivc explanations | 14:22 |
| apuimedo | ivc: in some way | 14:22 |
| apuimedo | :/ | 14:22 |
| irenab | apuimedo: in addition to recording, please provde a short summary of the main raised points | 14:22 |
| apuimedo | irenab: no decision taken. Mostly it was agreeing that we want to do flavors | 14:22 |
| apuimedo | or profiles | 14:22 |
| apuimedo | or mediums | 14:22 |
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| apuimedo | (all three names refer to the same) | 14:23 |
| ivc | irenab its covered in the first minute of the video | 14:23 |
| irenab | can you elaborate more? | 14:23 |
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| apuimedo | so that we take drivers and handlers, group them into supportable configs | 14:23 |
| ivc | apuimedo medium was a stub, pls stop using it :) | 14:23 |
| apuimedo | ivc: :-) | 14:23 |
| apuimedo | ivc: next time call it mediumstub | 14:23 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 14:24 |
| dmellado | lol | 14:24 |
| ivc | apuimedo it was to highlight the role and to provide context and then give it a name | 14:24 |
| irenab | so next step is another discussion or spec/devref? | 14:24 |
| ivc | apuimedo it sounded smart on paper, turns out it wasnt :) | 14:24 |
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| apuimedo | #link https://bluejeans.com/s/9X1Z2/ | 14:24 |
| apuimedo | this is the pre-edited recording | 14:25 |
| apuimedo | I'll post a shorter nicer version later | 14:25 |
| apuimedo | irenab: well, maybe spec, maybe a bit of discussion after you and others see the video | 14:25 |
| apuimedo | and give feedback on ml/irc | 14:26 |
| irenab | apuimedo: I think better to have follow-up meeting, written comments may be misunderstood | 14:26 |
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| apuimedo | irenab: sounds good to me | 14:26 |
| apuimedo | let me know when you watch it | 14:26 |
| irenab | great, thanks | 14:27 |
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| apuimedo | #info kuryr-kubernetes had its first release last week. It finally enables services! | 14:27 |
| apuimedo | now we can do some changes we were holding off | 14:27 |
| apuimedo | although the ovsdbapp change I'll still hold off until otherwiseguy packages ovsdbapp | 14:28 |
| apuimedo | at least rdo and ubuntu | 14:28 |
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| apuimedo | dmellado: your patch failed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459292/ | 14:29 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 14:29 |
| dmellado | apuimedo: saw it, weird, I'll ask you something after the meeting | 14:29 |
| apuimedo | irenab: I see some flakiness on the dragonflow job lately | 14:29 |
| dmellado | take a look at http://logs.openstack.org/92/459292/3/check/gate-install-dsvm-default-kuryr-kubernetes/6a1af9c/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz | 14:29 |
| apuimedo | irenab: are you aware of what could cause it? | 14:29 |
| irenab | apuimedo: same in the ovs job as well | 14:29 |
| irenab | it seems to be not related to the neutron at all | 14:30 |
| apuimedo | dmellado: seems like a race with the docker socket perms | 14:30 |
| apuimedo | maybe also what plagues the df and ovs tasks | 14:30 |
| apuimedo | bleh | 14:30 |
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| dmellado | apuimedo: I'll recheck for now, will follow up with you after seeing what happens | 14:31 |
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| irenab | Got permission denied while trying to connect to the Docker daemon socket at unix:///var/run/docker.sock: Post http://%2Fvar%2Frun%2Fdocker.sock/v1.28/images/create?fromImage=quay.io%2Fcoreos%2Fetcd&tag=v3.0.8: dial unix /var/run/docker.sock: connect: permission denied | 14:32 |
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| apuimedo | dmellado: thanks! | 14:33 |
| apuimedo | evil perms | 14:33 |
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| apuimedo | ivc: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458413/ has already addressed kzaitsev_ws's comments | 14:33 |
| apuimedo | ltomasbo: I saw you updated your pool patchsets | 14:34 |
| apuimedo | I'll try to take a look tomorrow | 14:34 |
| ltomasbo | yes, I wanted to give it another push | 14:34 |
| apuimedo | cool | 14:34 |
| ltomasbo | as in the conf discussion we forecast the actor changes for next cycle | 14:34 |
| irenab | ltomasbo: I will recheck, saw you adressed my comments | 14:34 |
| ltomasbo | I address some | 14:35 |
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| ltomasbo | but would like to quickly discuss about one | 14:35 |
| apuimedo | mchiappero: ivc: irenab: how did the discussion end up? | 14:35 |
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| apuimedo | I saw some back and forth | 14:35 |
| mchiappero | apuimedo: still waiting | 14:35 |
| ltomasbo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/436875/5 | 14:35 |
| ltomasbo | apuimedo, ivc, irenab | 14:35 |
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| irenab | apuimedo: discussion regarding? | 14:35 |
| ivc | apuimedo https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458413/ done | 14:36 |
| ltomasbo | how should we proceed for now, until we decide on what ivc explained the other day | 14:36 |
| apuimedo | irenab: I think mchiappero and ivc were going back and forth on stevedore related stuff | 14:36 |
| mchiappero | in general I think the whole design of that part might be reconsidered, however I think it's best to find a reasonable compromise for the time being | 14:36 |
| irenab | mchiappero: +1 | 14:36 |
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| ltomasbo | this is what apuimedo also proposed, and ivc seems to be ok with it (for now, with a TODO/REVISIT) | 14:36 |
| ltomasbo | do we agree on this (for now)? | 14:37 |
| irenab | I thik the best would be to follow the current approach and then rework the all | 14:37 |
| apuimedo | ltomasbo: on what? | 14:37 |
| mchiappero | the main problem imho is that there are two competing mechanisms, the translator and the driver for pretty much the same purpose | 14:37 |
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| ivc | guys what are we discussing? ltomasbo patch or mchiappero patch? | 14:37 |
| ivc | im confused | 14:37 |
| irenab | lets keep on mchiappero for now | 14:37 |
| apuimedo | ivc: mchiappero | 14:37 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 14:37 |
| ltomasbo | yep, we went from one to another too fast... | 14:37 |
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| apuimedo | ltomasbo: sorry, sometimes I lack filter | 14:38 |
| ltomasbo | :D | 14:38 |
| ltomasbo | I was referring all the time to the port pools (if that helps) | 14:38 |
| ivc | in mchiappero patch i dont like how the same vif translator is used by 2 different drivers | 14:38 |
| irenab | ivc: driver on Host or Controller? | 14:39 |
| ivc | i don't like how the ovs translator (native/hybrid) turned out too, but at least it is for the same driver | 14:39 |
| ivc | irenab controller | 14:39 |
| apuimedo | ltomasbo: sorry about that | 14:39 |
| mchiappero | ivc: the main problem is that some code expect the translation to be depending on the binding in neutron (which is one of the first approaches I tried) | 14:39 |
| mchiappero | ivc: the current design is largely broken though | 14:39 |
| ltomasbo | apuimedo, no problem! | 14:40 |
| mchiappero | otherwise it would have been straightforward to add macvlan | 14:40 |
| irenab | apuimedo: you keep on 2 conversations :-) | 14:40 |
| mchiappero | and BTW it follows the same approach as vlan | 14:40 |
| mchiappero | which has been accepted | 14:40 |
| ivc | mchiappero you can do macvlan with no issues, i even gave you a 1.2.3. list of steps :) | 14:40 |
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| mchiappero | ivc: what is the purpose of the driver and what is the purpose of the translators, if you can answer this question we have a solution :) | 14:41 |
| mchiappero | ivc: i don't need your list of steps | 14:41 |
| ivc | mchiappero translator converts neutron port into os-vif | 14:41 |
| mchiappero | i need you to see the problem and tell me what was the rationale behind it | 14:41 |
| ivc | mchiappero driver performs low-level neutron stuff | 14:42 |
| mchiappero | ivc: what is then the purpose of the vif drivers? | 14:42 |
| mchiappero | they try to solve the same issue | 14:42 |
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| ivc | mchiappero handler is sort of orchestrator and is an adapter between k8s and vif driver | 14:42 |
| mchiappero | some code uses the drivers, some other doesn't | 14:42 |
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| ivc | mchiappero they dont solve the same issue | 14:42 |
| mchiappero | ok, elaborate :) | 14:42 |
| irenab | translator transform one type of the object to another, driver performs operations. Correct? | 14:43 |
| ivc | yes | 14:43 |
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| ivc | <3 irenab | 14:43 |
| mchiappero | but they are the same thing | 14:43 |
| ivc | they are not :) | 14:43 |
| mchiappero | they do | 14:43 |
| mchiappero | so | 14:43 |
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| apuimedo | irenab with the perfect def | 14:43 |
| mchiappero | one approach I tried | 14:43 |
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| mchiappero | yes but there is one major point | 14:43 |
| mchiappero | operations are bound to a specific oject | 14:44 |
| mchiappero | object | 14:44 |
| mchiappero | so you decide the operations by a config file setting | 14:44 |
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| mchiappero | but wait for the object type from neutron | 14:44 |
| mchiappero | (which is not true BTW for nested ports) | 14:44 |
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| mchiappero | you have two hierachies for the same thing | 14:44 |
| ivc | mchiappero generic and both nested cases are different | 14:45 |
| mchiappero | yes, ideally you should be able to tell by the neutron port | 14:45 |
| mchiappero | not the vif drivers | 14:45 |
| ivc | mchiappero for nested translators do not seem necessary since you it is fixed | 14:45 |
| mchiappero | which is btw an approach I tried and doesnt work because of permission issues | 14:45 |
| ivc | mchiappero for the non-nested case the translator is driven by neutron and you don't know it beforehand - thats the reason why those 'translators' have seen the light | 14:46 |
| mchiappero | what operations and conversions you need to do depend on what you get from neutron, ideally, not the driver | 14:46 |
| apuimedo | May I suggest to take this to a short videoconf? | 14:46 |
| irenab | apuimedo: good idea | 14:46 |
| apuimedo | mchiappero: ivc: irenab: do you have time this week? | 14:47 |
| mchiappero | ivc: no, the translator is not driven by neutron for the nested case | 14:47 |
| mchiappero | indeed your steps change that! | 14:47 |
| mchiappero | having that said, let's agree on something that works | 14:47 |
| mchiappero | for the time being | 14:47 |
| ivc | mchiappero thats what i said - translator is fixed for nested BUT driven by neutron for non-nested | 14:47 |
| ivc | mchiappero and since you are focused on nested case, you prolly missing the non-nested case issues | 14:48 |
| mchiappero | ivc: it shouldn't be that way, again, you have two hierarchies for the same related set of things | 14:48 |
| mchiappero | not at all | 14:48 |
| irenab | ivc: we should clarify how it should work for nested | 14:48 |
| mchiappero | either you have the generic vif, and translators | 14:48 |
| ivc | irenab but i did | 14:48 |
| ivc | irenab its in our channel logs | 14:49 |
| mchiappero | or you have drivers (the generic would be the ovs one) and drop the translators | 14:49 |
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| mchiappero | they try to solve the same problem | 14:49 |
| mchiappero | anyway | 14:49 |
| irenab | ivc: mchiappero : shall we set shor chat for alignment? | 14:49 |
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| mchiappero | ok, fine with it. I'm just saying, this is the problem I see, and the code I proposed is the result of the current design, I'm happy to see the code merged first of all | 14:50 |
| apuimedo | please agree to that | 14:50 |
| mchiappero | and I'm okay to accept whatever is reasonable | 14:50 |
| apuimedo | so we can converge faster | 14:50 |
| apuimedo | mchiappero: agree to the meeting, not to a result | 14:51 |
| irenab | there are many fragments to make a complete support on new added flavor | 14:51 |
| mchiappero | what I'm saying though is: the design wasn't right | 14:51 |
| irenab | mchiappero: I think we agree on that. Therefor the refactoring brainstorming | 14:51 |
| apuimedo | right | 14:52 |
| apuimedo | ok. I'll send an invite | 14:52 |
| irenab | we should clarify the Role and Resp of each entity | 14:52 |
| apuimedo | #topic general | 14:52 |
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| ltomasbo | apuimedo, no discussions about my patch :( | 14:53 |
| irenab | apuimedo: there was some point ltomasbo wanted to raise | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | ltomasbo: sorry. We need to tackle two organizational items | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | ping me tomorrow | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StoryBoard/Vision | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | First of all | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | We were asked about moving to storyboard | 14:53 |
| ltomasbo | ok, irenab, ivc, can we discuss it later at the kuryr channel? | 14:54 |
| apuimedo | as I put last week | 14:54 |
| ivc | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-kuryr/%23openstack-kuryr.2017-04-20.log.html#t2017-04-20T14:39:27 | 14:54 |
| irenab | apuimedo: which projects already moved to it? | 14:54 |
| ivc | just for the reference | 14:54 |
| apuimedo | smaller | 14:54 |
| apuimedo | or small similar like us | 14:54 |
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| irenab | ltomasbo: yes | 14:54 |
| ltomasbo | irenab: thanks | 14:55 |
| dmellado | apuimedo: weren't you going to send an email summarizing the pros/cons? | 14:55 |
| dmellado | xD | 14:55 |
| irenab | apuimedo: what are benetits versus launchpad? | 14:55 |
| irenab | dmellado: :-) | 14:55 |
| apuimedo | well, it's the new tool from the community, an openstack project | 14:55 |
| apuimedo | Monasca, Infra, and Refstack are using it already | 14:56 |
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| apuimedo | dmellado: I didn't find the info :( | 14:56 |
| dmellado | apuimedo: heh xD | 14:56 |
| apuimedo | but they told me they have scripts that move all the bugs and items to storyboard automatically | 14:57 |
| apuimedo | it's also more trelloesque | 14:57 |
| apuimedo | which is a good thing | 14:57 |
| apuimedo | no more of my attempts to have both launchpad and trello | 14:57 |
| dmellado | I was taking a look at https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/page/about | 14:57 |
| ivc | apuimedo trello has better ux tho | 14:57 |
| irenab | apuimedo: does it provide back trace from the patches as with launchpad? | 14:57 |
| apuimedo | irenab: I think they move them all | 14:58 |
| dmellado | irenab: ;) that was going to be my question too | 14:58 |
| apuimedo | not just the open ones | 14:58 |
| apuimedo | I quote "we have scripts that we can run to move all of your open bugs & bps over to Storyboard. It doesn't take very long either. After that point you simply discontinue using Launchpad for task tracking. We have tested Kuryr against our sandbox environment and it migrates without issue." | 14:58 |
| irenab | apuimedo: I do not have enough info to provide my opinion … | 14:58 |
| dmellado | apuimedo: any chance to have a look at that sandbox environment | 14:59 |
| ivc | apuimedo irenab we can give it a try | 14:59 |
| dmellado | maybe that would help when taking a decission | 14:59 |
| irenab | do you want to decide now ? | 14:59 |
| apuimedo | dmellado: that's a good point | 15:00 |
| apuimedo | no, you can contact me with the vote individually | 15:00 |
| apuimedo | once there is quorum I'll give an answer | 15:00 |
| apuimedo | dmellado: I'll ask about access to it | 15:00 |
| irenab | apuimedo: I mean when is the deadline | 15:00 |
| dmellado | apuimedo: thanks! | 15:00 |
| apuimedo | no deadline | 15:00 |
| irenab | I want to have a look and check the UX | 15:00 |
| dmellado | irenab: I was checking i.e. refstack@ https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001001 | 15:01 |
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| dmellado | just in case you want to have a look there too | 15:01 |
| irenab | dmellado: thanks! | 15:01 |
| apuimedo | Final topic | 15:01 |
| apuimedo | sorry for taking longer | 15:01 |
| apuimedo | OpenStack Queens PTG | 15:01 |
| apuimedo | September 11-15th in Denver | 15:02 |
| irenab | apuimedo: keeping on virtual? | 15:02 |
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| apuimedo | we are asked if we'll participate | 15:02 |
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| apuimedo | as a team there | 15:02 |
| dmellado | +1 on virtual, at least from my side | 15:02 |
| apuimedo | irenab: it all depends on the community | 15:02 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 15:02 |
| apuimedo | irenab: I take it you prefer virtual | 15:02 |
| irenab | I have a feeling it will be easier to decede than with storyboard :-) | 15:03 |
| apuimedo | ivc: kzaitsev_ws: ltomasbo: limao: ? | 15:03 |
| ltomasbo | if virtual, can the dates be moved? | 15:03 |
| ivc | +1 on virtual, but then its also too early to plan 5 months ahead :) | 15:03 |
| apuimedo | hongbin: ? | 15:03 |
| hongbin | o/ | 15:03 |
| ltomasbo | I liked the virtual one! | 15:03 |
| apuimedo | ltomasbo: if virtual, there's no way I work on september 11th, catalan holiday | 15:03 |
| ltomasbo | :D | 15:03 |
| dmellado | ltomasbo: I guess so, just recall last time | 15:03 |
| apuimedo | very well | 15:03 |
| apuimedo | I think it's going to be virtual one | 15:03 |
| apuimedo | irenab was right | 15:03 |
| apuimedo | :-0 | 15:03 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 15:03 |
| apuimedo | easier to decide | 15:04 |
| apuimedo | alright. Thank you all for joining | 15:04 |
| ltomasbo | bye! | 15:04 |
| irenab | bye | 15:04 |
| dmellado | cya! | 15:04 |
| ivc | bb | 15:04 |
| apuimedo | #info we'll wait for a couple more answers, but most likely we'll not be part of PTG as a team | 15:04 |
| garyloug | bye | 15:04 |
| apuimedo | #endmeeting | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:04 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 24 15:04:37 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:04 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2017/kuryr.2017-04-24-14.01.html | 15:04 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2017/kuryr.2017-04-24-14.01.txt | 15:04 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2017/kuryr.2017-04-24-14.01.log.html | 15:04 |
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