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| annarez | Hi :) | 08:00 |
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| alexey_weyl | Ni hau :) | 08:01 |
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| ifat_afek_ | ifat_afek: #startmeeting vitrage | 08:02 |
| ifat_afek_ | #startmeeting vitrage | 08:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 19 08:03:04 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek_ | Hi again :-) | 08:03 |
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| alexey_weyl | ni hao | 08:03 |
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| dwj | 你好 ：） | 08:03 |
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| ifat_afek_ | And I assume that’s Hi in English? :-) | 08:04 |
| yujunz | Hi | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek_ | Today’s agenda: | 08:05 |
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| ifat_afek_ | •Status and Updates | 08:05 |
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| ifat_afek | •Boston Summit | 08:05 |
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| ifat_afek | •Open Discussion | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Status and Updates | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | Some general updates: | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | Mitaka was declared EOL. | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | Vitrage was mentioned in OPNFV HA meeting last week, as part of the HA group architecture for supporting HA scenarios in NFV environments | 08:06 |
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| ifat_afek | #link https://gerrit.opnfv.org/gerrit/#/c/33475 | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | My updates: | 08:06 |
| eyalb | \o/ | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | I wrote down the Vitrage HA and alarm history vision, as we discussed. Will be happy to get more reviews | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455065/ | 08:06 |
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| ifat_afek | That’s it for me | 08:07 |
| elisha_r | hey | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | Who’s next? | 08:07 |
| elisha_r | I'll go next | 08:07 |
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| elisha_r | I've been working on refactoring some of the code for the Machine Learning component | 08:07 |
| elisha_r | I hope to get this done sometime next week, and then push it | 08:08 |
| elisha_r | hopefully things will go smoothly, but of course the real test will be once we run it for a while in a live deployment, and that will take time | 08:08 |
| elisha_r | Once this is in, I'll be running tests with synthetic data so we get a sense of performance | 08:09 |
| elisha_r | that's it | 08:09 |
| yujunz | I'll go next | 08:09 |
| yujunz | Busy preparing OPNFV plugfest next week. No activity recently | 08:09 |
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| yujunz | Will start working on entity equivalent next week | 08:10 |
| yujunz | That's it | 08:10 |
| alexey_weyl | sounds good | 08:10 |
| alexey_weyl | let us know if you need any hel | 08:10 |
| alexey_weyl | *help | 08:10 |
| ifat_afek | yujunz: Thanks. What are you presenting in the plugfest? (not relevant to this discussion, just curious) | 08:10 |
| yujunz | QTIP benchmarking on different hardware | 08:10 |
| ifat_afek | Cool | 08:11 |
| yujunz | I'm not attending, but need to prepare it for the team | 08:11 |
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| ifat_afek | O | 08:11 |
| ifat_afek | Ok | 08:11 |
| eyalb | one small update | 08:11 |
| eyalb | the rpm for the puppet was approved ad should be in the RDO repository | 08:12 |
| eyalb | thats it | 08:12 |
| ifat_afek | eyalb: Does it mean we are done? or there is still some work to do? | 08:12 |
| yujunz | What is the package name? | 08:12 |
| eyalb | puppet-vitrage :-) | 08:13 |
| eyalb | there is always work to do | 08:13 |
| yujunz | Does that mean we can install vitrage with it? | 08:13 |
| eyalb | I need to check how to make the smoke tests run when an rpm is built | 08:13 |
| eyalb | @yujunz yes | 08:13 |
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| eyalb | you could before now its is packaged as an rpm | 08:14 |
| yujunz | Sounds good. How is the packaging done? I mean automatically by CI or manually? | 08:14 |
| ifat_afek | So we can send Gergely instructions for rpm installations? or is it still too early? | 08:14 |
| eyalb | yes automatically on every commit | 08:14 |
| ifat_afek | (Gergely Catsary is working on Vitrage installation guide) | 08:15 |
| eyalb | and also on a release | 08:15 |
| eyalb | @ifat yes | 08:15 |
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| ifat_afek | Great | 08:16 |
| yujunz | Every commit on vitrage or puppet-vitrage? | 08:16 |
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| elisha_r | (testing) | 08:19 |
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| yujunz | My last question before dropping: Every commit on vitrage or puppet-vitrage? | 08:20 |
| ifat_afek_ | In the meantime, I’ll update on behalf of danoffek that he is progressing with the Vitrage ID. He is having code reviews and fixes the tempests | 08:20 |
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| eyalb1 | every commit on vitrage updates the vitrage rpm and every commit on puppet-vitrage updates the puppet-vitrage rpm | 08:20 |
| alexey_weyl | I will update | 08:21 |
| alexey_weyl | I am working on the advanced use cases session for Boston. | 08:21 |
| alexey_weyl | Preparing it and making the use cases work. | 08:21 |
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| alexey_weyl | While doing so, found some bugs in the evaluator and the subgraph matching and fixed them | 08:22 |
| alexey_weyl | I am going to push the fix of those bugs also to stable/ocata | 08:23 |
| alexey_weyl | Thats it for now | 08:23 |
| ifat_afek | Great, thanks | 08:23 |
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| ifat_afek | So I guess it’s time to move to the Boston topic :-) | 08:23 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Boston Summit | 08:23 |
| ifat_afek | I think there is a problem with openstack bot :-( I don’t see that the topic changed | 08:24 |
| ifat_afek | Anyway… | 08:24 |
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| ifat_afek | One forum session was accepted for Vitrage, and I was asked to unite our four proposals into one. | 08:24 |
| ifat_afek | The united session is scheduled in an inconvenient time (right after the collectd session), and so far I failed to move it | 08:24 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/18799/vitrage-usability-and-new-insights-where-do-we-go-next?BackURL=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstack.org%2Fsummit%2Fboston-2017%2Fsummit-schedule%2Fglobal-search%3Ft%3Dvitrage%23eventid%3D18799 | 08:24 |
| ifat_afek | (not sure why this link is so long…) | 08:25 |
| ifat_afek | I’m still working on two presentations: the Vitrage Story and the Vitrage project updates. | 08:25 |
| ifat_afek | Regarding the session with Intel, I got a presentation draft from Maryam Tahhan, need to go over it | 08:25 |
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| ifat_afek | I also started working on the demo configuration, and found some bugs | 08:25 |
| ifat_afek | There seems to be a conflict between the static datasource and Nova instance datasource, when trying to reference an instance in the static file | 08:26 |
| ifat_afek | Will check it | 08:26 |
| ifat_afek | Anything else for Boston? | 08:26 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Open Discussion | 08:27 |
| ifat_afek | Any other issue to discuss? | 08:27 |
| yujunz | I want to ask progress on use case repository | 08:27 |
| ifat_afek | Right, I saw your mail and didn’t get to answer yet, sorry | 08:28 |
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| ifat_afek | We have a few use cases that are working in Nokia product. The problem is that they are specific to the Zabbix configuration that we have. We need to think of the best way to publish them | 08:28 |
| ifat_afek | So far we have made no progress in this area, mainly because we are busy with Boston tasks | 08:28 |
| ifat_afek | Sorry for that | 08:29 |
| yujunz | Undertood. Thank you | 08:29 |
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| ifat_afek | This issue is still high on our list. But I’m not sure when we will start working on it | 08:29 |
| ifat_afek | It’s not a lot of work, I guess | 08:30 |
| yujunz | What was the case about? NFVI ? | 08:30 |
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| ifat_afek_ | But of course the use case repository can hold other use cases that are not NFVI | 08:32 |
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| ifat_afek_ | Anything else? | 08:33 |
| yujunz | I lost the answer. What was before the "But" | 08:34 |
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| ifat_afek_ | Yes, I was disconnected.. | 08:34 |
| ifat_afek_ | Yes. An example use case: if Zabbix reports a high CPU load on the host, we create deduced alarms on the instances that their performance is suboptimal | 08:34 |
| ifat_afek_ | But of course the use case repository can hold other use cases that are not NFVI | 08:34 |
| ifat_afek_ | That’s the full answer | 08:34 |
| yujunz | I see, thanks | 08:34 |
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| ifat_afek | Any other issue? | 08:35 |
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| yujunz | No from my side | 08:36 |
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| ifat_afek | Ok. Bye everyone :-) | 08:36 |
| annarez | bye bye | 08:37 |
| yujunz | bye | 08:37 |
| alexey_weyl | bye bye | 08:37 |
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| ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 08:37 |
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| alex_xu | #startmeeting nova api | 13:00 |
| openstack | alex_xu: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 13:00 |
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| alex_xu | #endmeeting | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 19 13:00:23 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-04-19-08.03.html | 13:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-04-19-08.03.txt | 13:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-04-19-08.03.log.html | 13:00 |
| alex_xu | #startmeeting nova api | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 19 13:00:36 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova api)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_api' | 13:00 |
| alex_xu | who is here today? | 13:00 |
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| gmann | o/ | 13:00 |
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| alex_xu | gmann: let us wait two minutes for johnthetubaguy and sdague | 13:01 |
| gmann | sure | 13:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | o/ | 13:01 |
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| cdent | o/ | 13:01 |
| Kevin_Zheng | o/ | 13:02 |
| alex_xu | #topic priorities | 13:02 |
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| sdague | o/ | 13:03 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: from the last nova weekly meeting, I saw there are some note about more problem found for policy | 13:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, yes | 13:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | I should have added comments in the spec, but... well things got in the way | 13:04 |
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| johnthetubaguy | basically, I think we need more consensus on the general direction around policy | 13:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | there is a google hangout scheduled for later today | 13:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | in the keystone policy meeting slot | 13:05 |
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| alex_xu | ok, cool | 13:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think sdague and I got close to the problem, its very related to the concept of "global" ness | 13:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | like project observer vs global observer | 13:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | and how that would fit into the world | 13:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | the current status quo is massively confusing | 13:06 |
| sdague | yeh | 13:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | is_admin_project is the main point of contention | 13:06 |
| sdague | I honestly feel like its a few more hours of discussion to unpack the whole thing | 13:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: +1 | 13:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | honestly, I know folks glazed over at the PTG in a fog of confusion, we need to get through that | 13:07 |
| alex_xu | ok, looking for good thing come out | 13:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I think we have folks interested and thinking about the problems, so hoping we can straighten something out | 13:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: I forget actually, did we say we keep anything from those two specs, I think probably not? | 13:08 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: I don't know | 13:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | obviously, we finish off the policy docs | 13:09 |
| sdague | honestly, I feel like we were starting to get somewhere, then folks had to go | 13:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | and we can still remove those still policy rules | 13:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: yeah, that was "the OSIC" meeting | 13:09 |
| sdague | ah | 13:09 |
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| sdague | yeh, I can understand why that was important | 13:09 |
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| alex_xu | ok, we just need to wait for new spec come out, i guess? | 13:11 |
| sdague | yeh | 13:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | +1 | 13:12 |
| sdague | I honestly think glossary and diagrams of the current state of the world would make more sense then a new spec in a lot of ways | 13:12 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I think that the bit we need | 13:12 |
| sdague | the glazing over is because the current reality is pretty hard to understand | 13:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | the landscape | 13:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | turns out we all don't have the same context here, including lots of the keystone folks | 13:13 |
| sdague | the only reason I can follow half of it is because I learned a chunk for the policy in code bits | 13:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | well, we all have different bits of the context | 13:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 13:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, more ground work needed around that stuff | 13:14 |
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| alex_xu | you guys' words make me looking forward to see the new spec a lot, looking for a surprise :) | 13:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | heh, maybe! | 13:15 |
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| alex_xu | heh | 13:15 |
| alex_xu | #topic open | 13:15 |
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| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/api-no-more-extensions-pike | 13:16 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: looking fo one more +2 ^ | 13:16 |
| * cdent loves that ^ stuff | 13:16 | |
| alex_xu | cdent: :) | 13:16 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I will take a look at that after the meeting | 13:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | been going through the +2 back log past few days | 13:17 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: thanks | 13:17 |
| sdague | yeh, getting the /servers one landed would be great | 13:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | got stuck in a few holes along the way, digging out now! | 13:17 |
| alex_xu | try to add a test to ensure the microversions are sequential https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458004/, the test failed, but approved the test works... | 13:17 |
| sdague | interesting | 13:18 |
| alex_xu | but as sdague said, there is no way to test the microversion sequential on json-schema, which can found bug like this https://review.openstack.org/457577 | 13:18 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ah, interesting, I spotted something similar in placement the other day, so it brought this back to mind | 13:19 |
| cdent | alex_xu was good enough to provide a similar thing for placement | 13:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | sweet | 13:20 |
| cdent | s/thing/test/ | 13:20 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: yea, I have a patch for placement also https://review.openstack.org/458049 | 13:20 |
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| sdague | yeh, I honestly think if we did things a little different in how we executed the wrappers it might make it easier to verify | 13:20 |
| gmann | nice, i did not about that bug but yea checks for such are great to have | 13:20 |
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| sdague | for instance some kind of __versions on the function | 13:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | honestly, I wondered about the explicit routes, should versions go in there? | 13:21 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: how? | 13:21 |
| cdent | I love watching you guys be so honest all the time ;) | 13:21 |
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| johnthetubaguy | like GET / -> version range -> function, rather than GET / -> function | 13:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: heh | 13:22 |
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| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: emm...sounds good | 13:22 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: but you can't trust that route list, we have a lot of in-code version check | 13:23 |
| sdague | or just put the schema ranges in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445864/14/nova/api/openstack/compute/routes.py@122 | 13:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: yeah in there is what I was thinking, how I am less sure | 13:23 |
| sdague | anyway, this is a brainstorming exercise for later | 13:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 13:23 |
| sdague | the point is the interface is currently easy enough to misuse that we have bugs | 13:24 |
| alex_xu | ++ | 13:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | agreed its too easy to screw it up | 13:24 |
| gmann | yea, having at router level makes less error prone | 13:24 |
| sdague | and we need to climb the hierarchy of - http://sweng.the-davies.net/Home/rustys-api-design-manifesto | 13:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: oh, nice | 13:24 |
| * alex_xu adds that to readlist | 13:25 | |
| gmann | sdague: nice one. thanks for sharing. | 13:25 |
| * alex_xu always expect sdague's sharing | 13:26 | |
| sdague | yeh, no worries, I heard it in a rusty keynote a long time ago, and it always stuck with me | 13:26 |
| sdague | :) | 13:26 |
| sdague | ok, next topic? | 13:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think I only ever saw the tl;dr of that before | 13:26 |
| alex_xu | anything people want to bring up? | 13:27 |
| cdent | i start fixed in the nova-api under wsgi stuff | 13:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | I guess spec freeze has passed | 13:27 |
| alex_xu | cdent: cool | 13:27 |
| cdent | at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457283/ | 13:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, sweet | 13:27 |
| cdent | still a bit roughly hewn, suggestions welcome | 13:27 |
| cdent | there's associated devstack changes in progress too: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457715/ | 13:27 |
| cdent | sdague did a pile of nice work to make uwsgi simple in devstack | 13:28 |
| cdent | and we're thinking may as well make nova-api default to that | 13:28 |
| cdent | one question is: should the metadata server too? | 13:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh... that is a harder question | 13:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | I guess thats often deployed on the nova-compute node, with a neutron proxy in front of it | 13:28 |
| cdent | keeping in mind that this is for devstack only | 13:29 |
| sdague | I think the md server should run the same way | 13:29 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: even in the neutron case? | 13:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | its tempting to say yes, just not sure what the deployers think | 13:29 |
| sdague | I thought in the neutron case, just the proxy was there | 13:29 |
| sdague | it was nova-net where you either put it local, or did the multicast route thing | 13:29 |
| cdent | does it matter what deployers think, with regard to devstack? part of the point of moving to wsgi-only is so that deployers have a) choices, b) must make a choice | 13:30 |
| cdent | c) have choices which are sane | 13:30 |
| sdague | cdent: I think it's fine to do for devstack | 13:30 |
| cdent | me too, just checking the pulse of others | 13:30 |
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| sdague | cdent: does it require the md server as a dedicate uwsgi process? or do they run in the same one? | 13:30 |
| cdent | I think it would be better separate, more debuggable and inspectactable | 13:31 |
| cdent | the mod-wsgi setup (which didn't really work anyway) was separate | 13:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: so I had that all wrong in my head, I know what you mean now | 13:31 |
| cdent | and presumably for multi-node separate metadata server is a good thing? | 13:32 |
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| johnthetubaguy | cdent: I like separate too, so everything is the "same" in some sense | 13:32 |
| * cdent nods | 13:32 | |
| johnthetubaguy | we can kill some more silly config variables that way | 13:32 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: true | 13:33 |
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| sdague | honestly, it's probably worth getting this all working enough to deprecate the eventlet way of running nova-api for the release | 13:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | +1 | 13:33 |
| cdent | \o/ | 13:33 |
| alex_xu | \o/ for removing something again | 13:34 |
| sdague | well, it will be a couple cycles before it can be code deleted | 13:34 |
| cdent | we'll call the the r cycle: removals | 13:34 |
| * alex_xu sad now | 13:34 | |
| sdague | but it does simplifiy | 13:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: nice | 13:34 |
| cdent | (and the s cycle: simplify) | 13:35 |
| sdague | we did hard and fast transition on a few things in this last cycle, I think for this we need to give people a little more time | 13:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: time to start adding locations on google maps near summit venues | 13:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, this one needs time | 13:35 |
| * cdent makes a todo item | 13:35 | |
| johnthetubaguy | well, the had time for the other ones, just they didn't notice | 13:36 |
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| alex_xu | sounds, should ask next topic? | 13:37 |
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| sdague | yep | 13:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | +1 | 13:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | I don't really have a topic | 13:38 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: sounds like you said half words about freeze | 13:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | I was just going to check we have no specs hanging in mid flight | 13:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | that are really important | 13:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think the answer is no | 13:38 |
| alex_xu | i think no | 13:38 |
| alex_xu | i probably needs to check how much spec approved for api | 13:39 |
| alex_xu | s/needs/need/ | 13:39 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/457181 | 13:40 |
| alex_xu | the patch about deprecation is up ^ | 13:40 |
| alex_xu | that is all i have | 13:40 |
| alex_xu | anything more want to bring up? | 13:41 |
| alex_xu | ok, I guess no | 13:41 |
| alex_xu | thanks all, let us close the meeting | 13:42 |
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| alex_xu | #endmeeting | 13:42 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 19 13:42:13 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-04-19-13.00.html | 13:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-04-19-13.00.txt | 13:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-04-19-13.00.log.html | 13:42 |
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| gmann | thanks | 13:42 |
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| cdent | thanks alex_xu | 13:42 |
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| alexchadin | #startmeeting watcher | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 19 14:00:19 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alexchadin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'watcher' | 14:00 |
| alexchadin | o/ | 14:00 |
| sballe_ | o/ | 14:00 |
| alexchadin | Our agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#04.2F19.2F2017 | 14:01 |
| alexchadin | #topic Announcements | 14:01 |
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| alexchadin | Watcher Pike-1 has been released. #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-April/115470.html | 14:02 |
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| sballe_ | +2 Congrats | 14:02 |
| alexchadin | Congratulations to everyone who made it possible :) | 14:03 |
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| alexchadin | Overview Presentation of Watcher for Pike release is ready to be shared #link https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1TYdBBd7jEmLlC0kgsh10LfIaRS1pNmmPE-L_2hXQK6Q/edit?usp=sharing | 14:04 |
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| chrisspencer | o/ | 14:04 |
| sballe_ | alexchadin: I updated the contributor slide and can send it to ou | 14:05 |
| sballe_ | hi chrisspencer | 14:05 |
| alexchadin | sballe_: As I've mentioned before, I've left some first slides AS IS and changed some release-related slides | 14:05 |
| sballe_ | cool | 14:05 |
| alexchadin | hi chrisspencer | 14:05 |
| alexchadin | sballe_: it would be great :) | 14:05 |
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| vincentfrancoise | o/ | 14:05 |
| alexchadin | hi vincentfrancoise | 14:06 |
| vincentfrancoise | sorry for being late | 14:06 |
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| alexchadin | We have released Pike-1 and overview presentation is almost ready https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1TYdBBd7jEmLlC0kgsh10LfIaRS1pNmmPE-L_2hXQK6Q/edit?usp=sharing | 14:06 |
| alexchadin | chrisspencer, vincentfrancoise ^ | 14:07 |
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| alexchadin | Any other announcements? | 14:08 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: looks good! | 14:08 |
| sballe_ | alexchadin: do you want to change to the new logos too? | 14:08 |
| sballe_ | I am happy to help and update the slide set. We could condense some of the TAP stuff that Intel did | 14:08 |
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| alexchadin | sballe_: what logos do you speak about? Companies? | 14:09 |
| sballe_ | no the Watcher logo | 14:09 |
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| sballe_ | Is that the latest you sent us? | 14:10 |
| sballe_ | maybe it is .. | 14:10 |
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| chrisspencer | alexchadin: I've got an announcement | 14:10 |
| alexchadin | sballe_: the last one was the same logo with DRAFT across the image | 14:10 |
| sballe_ | oh ok ;-) | 14:10 |
| alexchadin | chrisspencer: great! | 14:11 |
| alexchadin | BTW, don't open presentation in Safari browser, it really looks bad there | 14:11 |
| alexchadin | Chrome works great | 14:11 |
| chrisspencer | alexchadin: I am being pulled off of OpenStack work. For those who don't know Intel and Rackspace decided to end their joint collaboration known as OSIC last week. I was part of that group and unfortunately will no longer be working on Watcher. | 14:12 |
| vincentfrancoise | chrisspencer: Sad to hear :( | 14:12 |
| alexchadin | chrisspencer: it is sad | 14:13 |
| sballe_ | chrisspencer: sorry to see this happening. Hopefully you will be back in a couple of month | 14:13 |
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| chrisspencer | thank you. I've had a lot of working working with all of you | 14:13 |
| alexchadin | chrisspencer: you've made a lot of great jobs | 14:14 |
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| sballe_ | +2 | 14:14 |
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| chrisspencer | a lot of fun* | 14:14 |
| vincentfrancoise | +2 | 14:14 |
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| alexchadin | chrisspencer: don't forget, if you have a chance to return in future, our doors are opened for you | 14:14 |
| vincentfrancoise | chrisspencer: when will you actually stop working on Watcher then? | 14:14 |
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| sballe_ | +2 on the retun | 14:15 |
| chrisspencer | alexchadin: thank you. vincentfrancoise: officially I was told to stop working on all openstack work last tuesday. | 14:15 |
| sballe_ | s/return | 14:15 |
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| alexchadin | chrisspencer: we will decide who can take your work then | 14:17 |
| alexchadin | let's move on to review items | 14:17 |
| alexchadin | #topic Review Action Items | 14:18 |
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| alexchadin | Watcher specs | 14:18 |
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| alexchadin | Define grammar for workload characterization needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377100/ | 14:18 |
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| sballe_ | I will review | 14:19 |
| alexchadin | last two PSs were provided by chrisspencer | 14:19 |
| alexchadin | so some should end the work if it needs some fixes | 14:19 |
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| alexchadin | someone* | 14:19 |
| alexchadin | #action sballe_ review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377100/ | 14:19 |
| alexchadin | sballe_: thank you | 14:19 |
| alexchadin | Spec for noisy-neighbor-dashboard needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427308/ | 14:21 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: couldn't you take it if there is some nits to do left? | 14:22 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: sorry, I can only dedicate some time on reviews | 14:23 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: ah sorry | 14:23 |
| alexchadin | #action alexchadin decide who can take https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427308/ | 14:23 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: but I can help on doing more at the summit though | 14:23 |
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| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: if we won't get some progress here before summit, help is needed then :) | 14:24 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: fine by me :) | 14:25 |
| alexchadin | Audit tag in VM Metadata needs final code review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391374/ | 14:25 |
| alexchadin | sballe_: could you please get final core review? | 14:25 |
| sballe_ | yes I was just going to suggest that | 14:26 |
| alexchadin | great | 14:26 |
| alexchadin | #action sballe_ give final review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391374/ | 14:26 |
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| alexchadin | Add new actions "power on" and "power off" in Watcher needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/435436/ | 14:26 |
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| alexchadin | Yumeng and David are not here | 14:27 |
| sballe_ | this imply integration with ironin? | 14:27 |
| sballe_ | s/ironinc | 14:27 |
| alexchadin | sballe_: it is one of the part of it | 14:27 |
| sballe_ | ok | 14:27 |
| alexchadin | Noisy Neighbor Strategy needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398162/ | 14:28 |
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| alexchadin | #action alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398162/ | 14:30 |
| alexchadin | Add spec for Supporting HA for background jobs in Watcher needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447996/ | 14:30 |
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| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise started to review it | 14:31 |
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| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: put me on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447996/ | 14:31 |
| alexchadin | #action vincentfrancoise review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447996/ | 14:32 |
| alexchadin | Add spec for cron based continuous audits needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442388/ | 14:32 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: you've also reviewed it some time ago | 14:32 |
| alexchadin | #action vincentfrancoise review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442388/ | 14:33 |
| alexchadin | Add spec for Cinder model integration needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450173/ | 14:33 |
| alexchadin | seems that it is too late for Hidekazu to visit our meeting | 14:34 |
| alexchadin | They have 23:34 already | 14:34 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: I did some reviews on his work. LGTM but needs some unittests | 14:34 |
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| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: you speak about spec? He has mentioned unit tests in appropriate section | 14:35 |
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| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: ah yeah sure my bad :p | 14:36 |
| alexchadin | :) | 14:36 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: I was referring on both for the spec part and unittests was for the implem | 14:36 |
| alexchadin | sballe_: don't you want to review this spec? | 14:37 |
| sballe_ | yes | 14:37 |
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| sballe_ | alexchadin: you are talking about he Cinder one.ritgh | 14:37 |
| alexchadin | sballe_: yeap | 14:38 |
| sballe_ | assign me an action ;-) | 14:38 |
| alexchadin | #action sballe_ alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450173/ | 14:39 |
| alexchadin | Build baremetal data model in watcher needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448016/ | 14:39 |
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| alexchadin | well, Yumeng is still not with us :) | 14:40 |
| alexchadin | move on to Watcher | 14:40 |
| alexchadin | Watcher | 14:40 |
| alexchadin | Add Watcher JobStore for background jobs needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449659/ | 14:40 |
| sballe_ | alexchadin: quick question | 14:40 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: you know what I would ask ;) | 14:41 |
| alexchadin | sballe_: yes? | 14:41 |
| sballe_ | is Build baremetal data model in watcher needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448016/ about having Watcher do action on baremetal server | 14:41 |
| sballe_ | or non virtualized environments? | 14:41 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: please add me on it | 14:41 |
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| alexchadin | sballe_: if I understand it right, she writes about integration with Ironic | 14:42 |
| vincentfrancoise | sballe_: The idea is I think to build a generic baremetal model | 14:42 |
| sballe_ | oh I see | 14:42 |
| alexchadin | sballe_: it means it would be baremetal model | 14:42 |
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| sballe_ | ok but what is the end goal | 14:43 |
| alexchadin | #action vincentfrancoise review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449659/ | 14:43 |
| vincentfrancoise | sballe_: and then ZTE needs to relate it to Nova to have baremetal-deployed compute nodes that they can power on-off on demand | 14:43 |
| sballe_ | ok | 14:43 |
| vincentfrancoise | sballe_: at least that's my understanding of it | 14:43 |
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| sballe_ | ok | 14:44 |
| alexchadin | Add host_aggregates in exclude rule of audit scope needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457166/ | 14:45 |
| alexchadin | Add action description needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450720/ | 14:45 |
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| alexchadin | #action alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450720/ | 14:47 |
| sballe_ | I can review too | 14:47 |
| alexchadin | Add ironicclient needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456996/ | 14:47 |
| alexchadin | #action sballe_ review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450720/ | 14:48 |
| alexchadin | I love clients so I will review it :D | 14:48 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: don't you want? | 14:49 |
| sballe_ | :) | 14:49 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: I can try :) | 14:49 |
| alexchadin | #action vincentfrancoise review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456996/ | 14:50 |
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| alexchadin | Add action description notification needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454638/ | 14:51 |
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| alexchadin | #action alexchadin vincentfrancoise review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454638/ | 14:52 |
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| alexchadin | Noisy Neighbor Strategy needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454359/ | 14:52 |
| sballe_ | we are working on it. | 14:53 |
| sballe_ | should be there really soon | 14:53 |
| alexchadin | sballe_: should we mark it as WiP or your new PS will be 'ready to review'? | 14:54 |
| sballe_ | ready to review | 14:54 |
| alexchadin | beautiful :) | 14:54 |
| sballe_ | we are putting some fine tuning on the spec | 14:54 |
| sballe_ | and/or code | 14:54 |
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| sballe_ | the summit is getting closer ;-) | 14:55 |
| alexchadin | sballe_: we are waiting:) | 14:55 |
| alexchadin | yeah! | 14:55 |
| alexchadin | sballe_: what about non-official part? | 14:55 |
| alexchadin | sballe_: I'm about team dining somewhere | 14:55 |
| sballe_ | I asked for people ot write their name if they could attend: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/watcher-Boston-meetings | 14:56 |
| alexchadin | dinner* | 14:56 |
| sballe_ | rght now it is just me ;-) | 14:56 |
| alexchadin | here we go ;) | 14:57 |
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| sballe_ | I'll find a not too expensive place close to the confernce but would like to know who can attend and any food restrictions | 14:57 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: did acabot stop his work on OpenStack? | 14:57 |
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| sballe_ | alexchadin: thx | 14:58 |
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| alexchadin | well, let's end our meeting on such tasty point | 14:59 |
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| alexchadin | thank you for coming | 14:59 |
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| alexchadin | bye! | 14:59 |
| sballe_ | bye and thx | 14:59 |
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| alexchadin | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 19 15:00:10 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-04-19-14.00.html | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-04-19-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-04-19-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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| serverascode | #startmeeting operators_telco_nfv | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 19 15:01:01 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is serverascode. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'operators_telco_nfv' | 15:01 |
| serverascode | hello everyone :) | 15:01 |
| serverascode | #topic roll call | 15:01 |
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| shintaro | o/ | 15:01 |
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| serverascode | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-telco-nfv-meeting-agenda | 15:01 |
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| serverascode | hi shintaro :) | 15:01 |
| sergem | hello | 15:01 |
| serverascode | hi sergem :) | 15:01 |
| Jamemcc_ | Hi | 15:01 |
| serverascode | hi jamemcc_ | 15:01 |
| shintaro | hi serverascode | 15:01 |
| serverascode | ok so there are 4 of us, that's good :) | 15:02 |
| serverascode | will give it 30 seconds to see if anyone shows up and we'll get going | 15:02 |
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| serverascode | #topic NFV Session at Boston Summit | 15:03 |
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| serverascode | ok so we do have a 40 minute session at the summit | 15:04 |
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| shintaro | on thursday | 15:04 |
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| serverascode | yup | 15:05 |
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| sergem | are there any current efforts that will report their progress at that meeting? | 15:05 |
| serverascode | good question | 15:05 |
| sergem | like what is status of generic NFV platform? | 15:05 |
| serverascode | we have 3 projects that are listed at the top of our agenda | 15:05 |
| serverascode | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/generic-nfv-platform | 15:06 |
| serverascode | I haven't looked at it for a while, but am planning on doing some work on that in the next couple of weeks | 15:06 |
| serverascode | and of course anyone is welcome to contribute to the first draft :) | 15:07 |
| sergem | ok | 15:07 |
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| serverascode | so we could certainly report on the progress of those | 15:07 |
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| serverascode | I was thining initially that we could discuss the status of those, and also, as someone mentioned in the etherpad, summarize some of the NFV work at the first 3 days of the summit | 15:08 |
| serverascode | and that would probalby use up our 40 minutes | 15:08 |
| serverascode | but that is the easy route :) | 15:08 |
| serverascode | anyone have any other ideas for that session? | 15:08 |
| sergem | I was thinking like a couple of mins for each project | 15:08 |
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| sergem | :) | 15:08 |
| GeraldK | hi | 15:08 |
| serverascode | hi GeraldK | 15:08 |
| sergem | for newbies like me | 15:08 |
| shintaro | we can use time to do some work on those 3 projects | 15:08 |
| shintaro | like persona one | 15:09 |
| shintaro | or upgrade | 15:09 |
| serverascode | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osux-persona-nocengineer | 15:09 |
| serverascode | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-telco-nfv-upgrades | 15:09 |
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| GeraldK | on the NOC engineer, I had put this work on hold as we didn't use it for the development proposal. however, it might be nice to finalize the work started. | 15:10 |
| serverascode | so does going over our 3 projects, what they are and the status, and then getting into summarizing the week in NFV make sense? | 15:11 |
| serverascode | is there anything else we need to do? | 15:11 |
| shintaro | yes it makes sense, serverascode | 15:12 |
| GeraldK | +1 | 15:12 |
| serverascode | ok, well we have time to make changes if we need to then, but that sounds like a good basis for a 40 min meeting | 15:12 |
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| serverascode | if no other thoughts, will move onto the next topic in about 30 secons | 15:14 |
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| shintaro | ok | 15:14 |
| serverascode | #topic Result of forum session selections | 15:14 |
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| serverascode | #link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/=qqdo5sfmri | 15:14 |
| GeraldK | we should also have a discussion in the F2F about how we can attract more poeple in the IRC meetings | 15:14 |
| GeraldK | sorry, I am too slow in typing. | 15:15 |
| serverascode | ok I added it to the agenda, it's a good idea :) | 15:16 |
| GeraldK | thanks serverascode | 15:16 |
| serverascode | (for the f2f session) | 15:16 |
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| GeraldK | shintaro: congrats for 1 year chair of JOSUG | 15:17 |
| shintaro | oh thanks yes its going to be my second term :) | 15:17 |
| shintaro | JOSUG is Japan OpenStack User Group, BTW | 15:17 |
| serverascode | cool :) you are doing a lot of work in the community | 15:18 |
| GeraldK | just spotted it in your profile of the talk | 15:18 |
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| serverascode | so the forum topics were selected | 15:18 |
| serverascode | it seemed a bit hit and miss as to what was selected and what wasn't | 15:18 |
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| shintaro | it was a tough selection | 15:19 |
| serverascode | I think 7 or 8 of the topics we identified were selected | 15:19 |
| serverascode | including the NFV collaboration | 15:19 |
| serverascode | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-forum-telecom-nfv-collaboration | 15:19 |
| serverascode | which was probably the most important one | 15:19 |
| shintaro | I've created a etherpad page for that | 15:20 |
| shintaro | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-forum-telecom-nfv-collaboration | 15:20 |
| serverascode | great | 15:20 |
| serverascode | I should do that for the NFV session too | 15:20 |
| shintaro | please add agenda | 15:21 |
| serverascode | #action serverascode setup an etherpad for the telecom/nfv working group session | 15:21 |
| serverascode | does anyone have any thoughts on the forum sessions? | 15:21 |
| serverascode | I guess the ETSI Specs will also probably be important | 15:22 |
| serverascode | #link http://forumtopics.openstack.org/cfp/details/48 | 15:22 |
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| shintaro | I'm still trying to plan my schedule but will attend NFV related sessions | 15:23 |
| serverascode | should be a busy week :) | 15:23 |
| GeraldK | I did a first personal schedule today and will be able to join some of the NFV related sessions. | 15:23 |
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| GeraldK | unfortunately, as usual there is an overlap of interesting sessions | 15:24 |
| serverascode | ok, I don't have anything more on that topic myself | 15:25 |
| shintaro | should we add to ethercalc who will attend which session? | 15:25 |
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| serverascode | it would be interesting to know who is going to what | 15:26 |
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| GeraldK | +1 | 15:27 |
| serverascode | is everyone in meeting going to the summit? | 15:27 |
| shintaro | ok I will finalise my schedule and add to ethercalc | 15:27 |
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| serverascode | ok thanks shintaro | 15:29 |
| serverascode | I will move onto open discussion | 15:29 |
| serverascode | #topic open discussion | 15:29 |
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| serverascode | anyone have any additional items to discuss? | 15:29 |
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| shintaro | none from me | 15:30 |
| GeraldK | nope | 15:30 |
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| sergem | no | 15:30 |
| GeraldK | maybe one: | 15:30 |
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| GeraldK | i had noticed the meeting invite was sent to a close group of people only. should we use a ML to attract more people to the meetings? | 15:31 |
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| GeraldK | someone might get attracted by a particular topic on the agenda | 15:31 |
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| shintaro | its on operators ML | 15:31 |
| GeraldK | shintaro: okay, the I had missed it. | 15:32 |
| serverascode | I do also send a notice to the openstack operators mailing list, and also to whoever puts their email on the agenda page | 15:32 |
| serverascode | but not very many NFV related people are on the openstack operators mailing list | 15:32 |
| shintaro | so I guess more than others! thanks serverascode | 15:32 |
| serverascode | I used to send a message to the OPNFV list but haven't for quite a while | 15:33 |
| serverascode | perhaps I will just to let people know about the NFV session in Boston | 15:33 |
| shintaro | we can discuss this in the forum session | 15:34 |
| sergem | Send to me and I can forward on OPNFV operators (EUAG) list if you want | 15:34 |
| sergem | or entire OPNFV | 15:34 |
| GeraldK | sergem: +1 | 15:34 |
| serverascode | sergem ok I can do that, what's your email? if it's ok, could you put it on the agenda etherpad? | 15:35 |
| sergem | I put my email in agenda | 15:35 |
| serverascode | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-telco-nfv-meeting-agenda | 15:35 |
| serverascode | then I will email you the day before every meeting :) | 15:35 |
| sergem | sounds good | 15:35 |
| serverascode | ok thank you very much | 15:35 |
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| serverascode | any other comments/questions/criticisms :) | 15:36 |
| serverascode | I'll leave it for a minute or so and if nothing we can end the meeting | 15:36 |
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| serverascode | ok well thank you all for taking the time out of your day to attend, much appreciated :) | 15:37 |
| sergem | thanks, bye | 15:37 |
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| shintaro | thank you | 15:37 |
| serverascode | hopefully we will get more work done after the boston summit! | 15:37 |
| shintaro | great! | 15:37 |
| serverascode | #endmeeting | 15:37 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 19 15:37:54 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_telco_nfv/2017/operators_telco_nfv.2017-04-19-15.01.html | 15:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_telco_nfv/2017/operators_telco_nfv.2017-04-19-15.01.txt | 15:37 |
| GeraldK | thx. bye. | 15:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_telco_nfv/2017/operators_telco_nfv.2017-04-19-15.01.log.html | 15:37 |
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| zhubingbing | o/ | 15:59 |
| zhubingbing | o/ | 15:59 |
| zhubingbing | o/ | 15:59 |
| inc0 | #startmeeting kolla | 15:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 19 15:59:14 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is inc0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:59 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 15:59 |
| jascott1 | o/ | 15:59 |
| srwilkers | o/ | 15:59 |
| rwellum | o/ | 15:59 |
| zhubingbing | meeting | 15:59 |
| zhubingbing | o/ | 15:59 |
| zhubingbing | o/ | 15:59 |
| zhubingbing | o/ | 15:59 |
| inc0 | #topic rollcall | 15:59 |
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| berendt | o/ woot | 15:59 |
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| inc0 | howdy folks | 15:59 |
| sdake | o/ | 15:59 |
| inc0 | how y'all doin' today | 15:59 |
| spsurya_ | o/ | 15:59 |
| akwasnie | o/ | 15:59 |
| Jeffrey4l | o/ | 16:00 |
| srwilkers | doing swell | 16:00 |
| duonghq | o/ | 16:00 |
| duonghq | wo0t | 16:00 |
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| pbourke | woot | 16:00 |
| sbezverk | o/ | 16:00 |
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| hrw | o/ | 16:00 |
| egonzalez | woot o/ | 16:00 |
| kfox1111 | o/ | 16:00 |
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| inc0 | #topic announcements | 16:01 |
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| inc0 | Another plea for help from PTL - we'll host hands on workshops in Boston for kolla-ansible | 16:02 |
| inc0 | and we'll need mentors in room | 16:02 |
| zhubingbing | ;) | 16:02 |
| sdake | inc0 who else you got lined up | 16:02 |
| sdake | and what time and day is the sesion | 16:02 |
| * berendt will not be in Boston :( | 16:02 | |
| duonghq | o/ if you want, I can give you a hand | 16:03 |
| sdake | duonghq visa approved then? | 16:03 |
| inc0 | https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/18177/easier-openstack-deployment-novice-installation-using-kolla?BackURL=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstack.org%2Fsummit%2Fboston-2017%2Fsummit-schedule%2Fglobal-search%3Ft%3Djastrzebski%23eventid%3D18177 | 16:03 |
| duonghq | sdake, yes, it should be delivered to me tomorrow or Friday | 16:03 |
| inc0 | duonghq: would appreciate it greatly | 16:03 |
| sdake | duonghq nice! | 16:03 |
| inc0 | Tue 4:40-6:10 | 16:03 |
| zhubingbing | ;) | 16:04 |
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| sdake | inc0 if I dont have a conflict, I'll participate - I'll let you know if I have a conflict prior to summit | 16:04 |
| inc0 | yeah, just throwing it out there | 16:04 |
| berendt | who will prepare the session? | 16:04 |
| inc0 | room is big, it's going to be recorded and we can show once for all that you can deploy fully fledged openstack within an hour | 16:04 |
| inc0 | that's on me berendt | 16:05 |
| berendt | inc0: any help needed for the preparation? | 16:05 |
| inc0 | I might, I'll get back to you, thank you! | 16:05 |
| mnaser | sounds like a nice way to end tuesday, ill be there granted there's no meeting that show up | 16:05 |
| inc0 | would be great:) | 16:06 |
| inc0 | ok, let's move on | 16:06 |
| sdake | moment | 16:06 |
| inc0 | any announcements from community? | 16:06 |
| sdake | yes :) | 16:06 |
| inc0 | go ahead | 16:06 |
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| sdake | Jeffrey4l tagged kolla-kubernetes 0.6.0 - released blueprints are here: https://launchpad.net/kolla-kubernetes/+milestone/0.6.0 | 16:07 |
| sdake | thanks for making 0.6.0 a success :) | 16:07 |
| portdirect | w00t :) | 16:07 |
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| inc0 | ok, well, moving to actual agenda;) | 16:08 |
| mnaser | <insert clap emoji> | 16:08 |
| inc0 | #topic Core mentorship (inc0) | 16:08 |
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| inc0 | ok, I want to kick off mentorship program | 16:08 |
| inc0 | it's a first for me so bear with me and let's work together to get this show on the road:) | 16:09 |
| sdake | inc0 what did you hvae in mind ? | 16:09 |
| inc0 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-mentorship-signup | 16:10 |
| inc0 | I'd like to start pairing people together - core and person who want's to become core:) | 16:10 |
| srwilkers | i really like this idea | 16:10 |
| krtaylor | +1 | 16:10 |
| inc0 | idea is, core mentor will review reviews of his mantee | 16:11 |
| sdake | spsurya_ you at all interested? if so - etherpad ftw :) | 16:11 |
| sdake | manatee? :) | 16:11 |
| inc0 | manatee | 16:11 |
| inc0 | ;) | 16:11 |
| inc0 | well | 16:11 |
| sdake | the correct word is mentee :) | 16:11 |
| krtaylor | mentee? | 16:11 |
| inc0 | my god | 16:11 |
| jascott1 | ive studied for years and am still not a manatee | 16:11 |
| inc0 | student | 16:11 |
| sdake | jascott1 i feel the same way :) | 16:12 |
| jascott1 | :) | 16:12 |
| srwilkers | padawan | 16:12 |
| inc0 | so mentor will make sure to provide feedback to student if feedback is needed | 16:12 |
| inc0 | padawan, yes | 16:12 |
| inc0 | apprentice | 16:12 |
| jascott1 | there are always two, one master and one apprentice | 16:12 |
| sbezverk | srwilkers: :) | 16:12 |
| rwellum | I'm first on that list - enthusiasm not desperation.. | 16:12 |
| inc0 | lol | 16:12 |
| sdake | i think what would work best i a mentor pool | 16:13 |
| spsurya_ | +1 | 16:13 |
| inc0 | also student will have trusted person to ask all the question student might want to ask;) | 16:13 |
| sdake | we all have different strengths to bring to mentoring | 16:13 |
| inc0 | well at the end of the day | 16:13 |
| hrw | I like the idea | 16:13 |
| inc0 | everyone is part of same community | 16:13 |
| inc0 | it's more of a kickoff | 16:13 |
| inc0 | also, mentor will either talk to me or propose core voting himself once student is ready:) | 16:14 |
| sbezverk | inc0: agreed 1:1 is more managable for both participants | 16:14 |
| srwilkers | sbezverk, +1 | 16:14 |
| inc0 | core voting is end of mentorship | 16:14 |
| Jeffrey4l | kolla-k8s is hot ;) | 16:14 |
| rwellum | Good part is if the student emerges as a Core candidate - he or she will have a mentor who can speak for them. | 16:14 |
| inc0 | and also will make my job easier to determine who should be core candidate;) | 16:14 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l that is why the PTL bag is red ;) | 16:15 |
| pbourke | inc0: suggest matching timezones if possible | 16:15 |
| inc0 | ofc pbourke | 16:15 |
| inc0 | so let's do first match of metnors-students right now:) | 16:15 |
| inc0 | since we have both lists filled | 16:15 |
| pbourke | hmm k8s is popular | 16:16 |
| inc0 | jascott1: I chose you:P | 16:16 |
| inc0 | for reasons obvious;) | 16:16 |
| jascott1 | awww | 16:16 |
| jascott1 | thanks! | 16:16 |
| inc0 | so please, let's pair up all the mentees with mentor right now | 16:17 |
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| rwellum | Wow this is middle school picking teams all over again... :( | 16:17 |
| sdake | kfox1111 your utc -7 :) | 16:17 |
| sdake | rather utc -8 | 16:17 |
| sdake | rwellum ya - i am not big on the pick one idea | 16:18 |
| inc0 | pbourke can you take blallau under your wing? | 16:18 |
| pbourke | inc0: sure thing | 16:18 |
| blallau | thank you :) | 16:18 |
| inc0 | sdake: mind caring for rwellum ?:) | 16:18 |
| hrw | rwellum: please use UTC instead of European Summer Timezone | 16:18 |
| rwellum | ha - yeah hrw | 16:18 |
| sdake | inc0 yes, although I am also mentoring spsurya_ atm - so need two spots :) | 16:18 |
| rwellum | :) | 16:19 |
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| inc0 | kfox1111 then?:) | 16:19 |
| sdake | perhaps kfox1111 can assist mentoring rwellum and spsurya_ with me :) | 16:20 |
| inc0 | well, figure it out guys yourself:) I don't want to interfee | 16:20 |
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| pbourke | guys I assume this list is also always open, suggest linking it from the kolla wiki and sending to the ML | 16:20 |
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| pbourke | ? | 16:20 |
| inc0 | pbourke: good point! I'll handle that | 16:20 |
| pbourke | thanks inc0 | 16:20 |
| inc0 | ofc it's always open | 16:20 |
| krtaylor | +1, I'd like to maybe next round | 16:20 |
| sdake | krtaylor there is no next round | 16:21 |
| sdake | krtaylor if your interested, sign up | 16:21 |
| inc0 | krtaylor: it's one constant round:) | 16:21 |
| inc0 | there are still mentors available, myself included:) | 16:21 |
| rwellum | Many of these mentors have been super helpful in the past so I'm happy with whoever. | 16:21 |
| inc0 | so general interaction doesn't change, we still are same community | 16:21 |
| inc0 | one thing that changes is part of mentors job is to initiate core voting | 16:22 |
| inc0 | or ask me to do so | 16:22 |
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| pbourke | what does that mean | 16:22 |
| inc0 | if your student is ready in your eyes | 16:22 |
| pbourke | ah | 16:22 |
| pbourke | got it | 16:22 |
| inc0 | send proposal email or ask me to do it, I don't mind either way | 16:22 |
| kfox1111 | sdake: yeah | 16:23 |
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| sdake | kfox1111 - you interested in taking point on one of spsurya_ or rwellum and i'll play backup :) | 16:23 |
| inc0 | I'm also going to talk about it during summit project update session | 16:23 |
| inc0 | so it will be all official:) | 16:23 |
| inc0 | we need some cores for k8s in Asia timezones | 16:24 |
| * berendt has to leave earlier, will read backlogs later | 16:24 | |
| inc0 | and Euro | 16:24 |
| kfox1111 | sdake: works for me. | 16:24 |
| inc0 | ok let's move on, we'll get back to this topic in few weeks | 16:24 |
| sdake | kfox1111 k - put your name first and second on which one you want to take main contact with :) | 16:24 |
| inc0 | #topic Demystifying the gate (sdake) http://doodle.com/poll/bee7umevf43nwi6y | 16:24 |
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| inc0 | sdake you have the floor | 16:24 |
| sdake | thanks inc0 | 16:25 |
| sdake | in support of the mentorship program | 16:25 |
| kfox1111 | sdake: I don't want to play favorites. flip a coin? | 16:25 |
| sdake | I am holding a two week 6 session 45 minute workshop | 16:25 |
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| sdake | kfox1111 flip a coin ftw :) | 16:25 |
| sdake | kfox1111 that is actually how our mascot was decided :) | 16:25 |
| sdake | these workshops will be recorded and published | 16:25 |
| sdake | (on youtube) | 16:25 |
| srwilkers | sdake, thats awesome | 16:26 |
| sdake | I would encourage anyone that is interested in learning how the gate works in kolla-kubernetes to join in | 16:26 |
| sdake | the first step is voting for timing | 16:26 |
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| sdake | I recognize the timing isnt' ideal for apac | 16:26 |
| sdake | although I need to sleep sometime ;) | 16:26 |
| sdake | thanks srwilkers | 16:26 |
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| sdake | one thing I've learned in my ramp up on kolla-kubernetes is understanding the gate is cruicial to being an effective developer | 16:27 |
| sdake | jascott1 - we sort of had one of thes ethis week ad-hoc - what were your thoughts? | 16:27 |
| kfox1111 | wow... google has "virtual coin flip" built in now... | 16:27 |
| kfox1111 | scary. | 16:27 |
| jascott1 | it was good | 16:27 |
| sdake | spsurya_ ? | 16:28 |
| sbezverk | sdake: who is going to share "kube gate" working knowledge? I hope you sign up kfox1111 for it ;) | 16:28 |
| inc0 | sdake: can we move on?:) | 16:28 |
| spsurya_ | sdake: here | 16:28 |
| sdake | sbezverk i have a basic enough understanding of the gate to get people to a competent stage | 16:28 |
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| sdake | if your interested, please vote on the doodle poll | 16:28 |
| sdake | http://doodle.com/poll/bee7umevf43nwi6y | 16:28 |
| inc0 | I second sdake on that | 16:28 |
| sdake | i am sending out the announcement to the ml friday | 16:28 |
| sdake | (on times selected) | 16:29 |
| inc0 | gates are hard to understand and intimidating, but really important | 16:29 |
| inc0 | thank you Steve for taking this on | 16:29 |
| kfox1111 | sbezverk: I think we both shoudl work on spreading that knowlege. | 16:29 |
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| sdake | inc0 np :) | 16:29 |
| kfox1111 | the more folks that knows the gate the better we all will be. | 16:29 |
| sdake | sbezverk kfox1111 your welcome to attend the sessions if you like - could use the help :) | 16:29 |
| sbezverk | kfox1111: would love to, it is just bad timing for me until the second week of June | 16:30 |
| inc0 | sdake: anything else? | 16:30 |
| sdake | inc0 should do it thanks | 16:30 |
| inc0 | thanks:) | 16:30 |
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| inc0 | #topic Mixing binary and source image (daidv) | 16:31 |
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| inc0 | hmm, daidv is not around it seems | 16:31 |
| inc0 | ok, let's move on then | 16:31 |
| inc0 | #topic Kolla-Kubernetes development (srwilkers) | 16:31 |
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| inc0 | Steve, shoot | 16:32 |
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| srwilkers | so i threw this on the agenda because i saw some conversation in passing, and im really supportive of finding a dev path that works for kolla-kubernetes | 16:32 |
| duonghq | inc0, I'll take over daidv's topic after this topic | 16:33 |
| srwilkers | this was something i worked on for awhile but got sidetracked after some priorities took over | 16:33 |
| inc0 | ok duonghq | 16:33 |
| kfox1111 | what do you mean by 'dev path'? | 16:33 |
| srwilkers | path, environment, whatever | 16:33 |
| portdirect | 'world?' | 16:33 |
| kfox1111 | like, a set of instructions for setting up a dev system? | 16:33 |
| duonghq | srwilkers, you mean learning curve? | 16:33 |
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| portdirect | no more that kfox1111 is getting at | 16:34 |
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| portdirect | there have been a couple options mooted recently - and they all sound pretty good | 16:34 |
| sdake | i think has we demystify the gate, a development environment will shake out of that work | 16:34 |
| portdirect | but would be great to pick one that we can run with and support longterm | 16:34 |
| kfox1111 | sdake: yeah. | 16:35 |
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| duonghq | ya, after demystify the gate, dev should straight out | 16:35 |
| sdake | duonghq ++ | 16:35 |
| portdirect | ah ok - so this is not being looked at? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-kubernetes/+spec/devenv-taketwo | 16:35 |
| kfox1111 | portdirect: mostly agree. but I'm afraid devs are cats. they often do whatever they want. :) | 16:35 |
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| kfox1111 | so we can provide a reference, but its likely a lot of folks wont follow. | 16:35 |
| inc0 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457317/ one way to do it | 16:35 |
| srwilkers | kfox1111, then that's their problem when they say "it worked locally but wont pass the gate" | 16:36 |
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| kfox1111 | I've never seen two dev envs that were the same. :/ | 16:36 |
| kfox1111 | srwilkers: right. | 16:36 |
| srwilkers | kfox1111, as a dev, i agree entirely with you | 16:36 |
| srwilkers | kfox1111, so thats why id like to see a reference. and sdakes right: the gate sessions will shake out that reference | 16:36 |
| portdirect | inc0: that certainly is one way to skin this cat - looks nice | 16:36 |
| jascott1 | it depends what we are going for but minikube has those limitations that worry me | 16:37 |
| sbezverk | srwilkers: if it is not passig the gate there is a good reason and in 99% it is not the gate as people like to think | 16:37 |
| srwilkers | sbezverk, yep. | 16:37 |
| sdake | sbezverk i tend to agree, the gate is typically correct unless it thorws a flase negative | 16:37 |
| portdirect | jascott1: yeah - minikube is great for webapps but is a bit limiting for what we need | 16:37 |
| inc0 | sbezverk: but gates != dev | 16:37 |
| sdake | inc0 for sbezverk the gates are dev | 16:37 |
| sbezverk | sdake: for every failure people need to identify root cause and then address it accordingly | 16:38 |
| inc0 | well, not for me;) | 16:38 |
| portdirect | sbezverk: +2 | 16:38 |
| sdake | inc0 i understand sbezverk 'z workflow in detail as I have had to emulate it to get any real work done | 16:38 |
| jascott1 | also as newer peeps study the gate it would be great to annotate it | 16:38 |
| inc0 | gate has a lot of noise that is required by infra | 16:38 |
| inc0 | lots of hacks to get it up and running | 16:38 |
| portdirect | but the core should be the same i think | 16:38 |
| inc0 | that's why I dislike reading gate code | 16:38 |
| kfox1111 | jascott1: big plus 1. :) | 16:38 |
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| portdirect | regardless of the mothod chosen to implement it | 16:38 |
| inc0 | agree portdirect - and core is kubernetes | 16:39 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. I think we can segregate the parts of the gate that really are gate specific and those that are generic too. | 16:39 |
| inc0 | k8s gives us nice lowest common denominator | 16:39 |
| sdake | kfox1111 ftw :) | 16:39 |
| kfox1111 | make it easier to reuse those parts for dev env. | 16:39 |
| portdirect | inc0: its why we are all here :D | 16:39 |
| inc0 | kfox1111: that alone would go a long way | 16:39 |
| srwilkers | kfox1111, yep. agree | 16:39 |
| kfox1111 | I took an initial stab at that, but haven't had the time to complete it. | 16:39 |
| portdirect | it would go 99% of the way | 16:39 |
| sbezverk | kfox1111: I am ok for dev env to reuse, but not ok when gate is getting changed to accomodate dev env.. | 16:40 |
| kfox1111 | thats why stuff like setup_kubernetes.sh is a seperate script. shouldn't be too gate specific anymore. | 16:40 |
| srwilkers | this is something i'd like to help with. ive got some bandwidth, and tackling some gate work would be a good way for me to dip my toes back in | 16:40 |
| srwilkers | and something ive been wanting to understand more anyway | 16:40 |
| kfox1111 | we just need to figure out how to completely pull it out and make it rerunable. | 16:40 |
| portdirect | same here | 16:40 |
| clarkb | inc0: patches welcome to make it more readable. We definitely try to strike a balance of collecting necessary info and being too verbose | 16:40 |
| inc0 | we can create ansible playbook to deploy it too, it's easy win and single command to run this would be cool | 16:40 |
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| inc0 | kinda like stack.sh for devstack | 16:40 |
| sdake | clarkb its not your code - its kolla's code :) | 16:40 |
| inc0 | clarkb: with zuulv3 it will be much easier to handle | 16:40 |
| inc0 | since we can ditch shell in favor of ansible | 16:41 |
| * kfox1111 is really looking forward to zuulv3 | 16:41 | |
| inc0 | (if I understand zuulv3 correctly) | 16:41 |
| clarkb | sdake: inc0 said the gate is unreadablr due to infra hacks | 16:41 |
| sdake | clarkb i see - well i can't defend that - i dont know what hacks are being spoken of | 16:41 |
| inc0 | clarkb: mostly because of various regions | 16:41 |
| inc0 | not infra itself | 16:41 |
| srwilkers | but at any rate inc0, thats pretty much it. happy to see sdake's gate sessions, since that took a lot of my talking points away. also gives me something to listen in on next week | 16:42 |
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| inc0 | don't get me wrong, I'm not attacking infra :( | 16:42 |
| clarkb | I'd happily revuew changes to make things more readable if there are issues | 16:42 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. there is some weird stuff around infra's firewalls/dns caching/rax. | 16:42 |
| sbezverk | inc0: most of hack we have in the gate is because of multiple versions we currently support | 16:42 |
| kfox1111 | its stuff that really is specific to our use case though. most other openstack projects don't deploy sdn in vm's. | 16:42 |
| sbezverk | as soon as it is sorted out, the gate code will be much much cleaner | 16:42 |
| inc0 | yeah that's what I'm saying | 16:42 |
| inc0 | we want to make it run on all infra nodepools | 16:43 |
| inc0 | that produces code that's not useful for anyone outside gates | 16:43 |
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| kfox1111 | I think we should be able to safely tuck that away into their own scripts though. | 16:43 |
| inc0 | if we can separate that kind of stuff from actual devenv deployment, that'd be great | 16:43 |
| kfox1111 | "don't look at this file unless you are debugging the gate env itself." | 16:43 |
| inc0 | exactly | 16:43 |
| inc0 | personal request of PTL, can we do this asap and make it a priority? | 16:44 |
| inc0 | well, I'll work on it myself;) | 16:44 |
| kfox1111 | a priority above getting v4 support? | 16:44 |
| inc0 | but will need your help | 16:44 |
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| kfox1111 | I can help explain things at least. | 16:45 |
| sbezverk | kfox1111: the only place comes to mind is iptables script, the rest is kolla gate specific, no? | 16:45 |
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| inc0 | k, let's do that then, I'll focus on this part | 16:45 |
| kfox1111 | sbezverk: there's some iptables rewriting stuff that is very gate specific. there's stuff to change unbind to be accessable from k8s as well as the host (for dns) | 16:45 |
| kfox1111 | I think there are a couple of other minor things but can't remember off hand. | 16:45 |
| inc0 | also I'd remove all the multi-branch things really | 16:46 |
| sbezverk | kfox1111: right two then ;) iptables and dns, does not sound like a disaster to me | 16:46 |
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| kfox1111 | inc0: multi-branch things? | 16:46 |
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| kfox1111 | support for 2/3/4/t? | 16:46 |
| inc0 | yeah | 16:47 |
| kfox1111 | -2. | 16:47 |
| sbezverk | that WILL simplify the gate for sure | 16:47 |
| kfox1111 | some day, yes. | 16:47 |
| inc0 | kfox1111: nto from gates | 16:47 |
| kfox1111 | not at least until 1.0. | 16:47 |
| inc0 | hold on, I'm not removing this from gate logic | 16:47 |
| kfox1111 | oh. you mean, move the multibranch stuff into the gate specific code? | 16:47 |
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| inc0 | yes | 16:47 |
| kfox1111 | ah. ok. | 16:47 |
| kfox1111 | well.... 90% agree. | 16:48 |
| kfox1111 | I think a suer might want to checkout and test a build on 2 or 3. | 16:48 |
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| inc0 | once you know your ropes, feel free to shuffle it around | 16:48 |
| kfox1111 | so, some script that versions the checkout for the version they want to test. | 16:48 |
| inc0 | it's about getting it up and running | 16:48 |
| kfox1111 | but, yeah, generally agree. its mostly gate specific today. | 16:48 |
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| inc0 | #action inc0: segregate gate specific code from general kolla-k8s | 16:49 |
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| inc0 | portdirect srwilkers it's your topic;) anything else you wanted to mention? | 16:49 |
| rwellum | A Dev Env is a chicken-egg situation I've discovered. On one hand I want a quick environment to get me up and running and contributing to the project, on the other hand if it's too automated then the I have no idea of the underlying technologies involved, and I don't think I can reach Core that way. The former is great for demo's though. On the other hand, | 16:50 |
| rwellum | if/when the former fails, it's hard to get anyone interested in helping because it's all a black-box, and the Cores who could help won't use the dev environment necessarily. This has been my experience so far. | 16:50 |
| sdake | rwellum right- which is why we need to learn together | 16:50 |
| sdake | rwellum that is why the deployment guide was written | 16:50 |
| sdake | rwellum thank to atleasat 10+ people in the community | 16:50 |
| rwellum | Agreed sdake | 16:50 |
| sdake | if we learn together - we experience it | 16:51 |
| kfox1111 | rwellum: yeah. agreed. tahts why I think adapting and breaking up the gate stuff to support a dev env would help. | 16:51 |
| sdake | that is why we are demystifyign the gate | 16:51 |
| kfox1111 | make it moduler with shell like,, | 16:51 |
| rwellum | +1 definitely. | 16:51 |
| kfox1111 | setup_kubernetes. setup_helm. setup_sdn, setup_compute_kit. | 16:51 |
| kfox1111 | its easy to get off the ground. | 16:51 |
| sdake | if we have one magic script that runs, that isn't learning together ;) | 16:51 |
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| kfox1111 | when someone wants to know something more about how ti works, | 16:51 |
| kfox1111 | then can look at the one script that they are most interested in. | 16:51 |
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| kfox1111 | and will learn how both the gate and the dev env work at the same time. | 16:52 |
| sdake | i agreee one set of scripts | 16:53 |
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| sdake | coming out of the demystifying the gate | 16:53 |
| sdake | is winning | 16:53 |
| spsurya_ | +1 sdake | 16:53 |
| spsurya_ | +1 rwellum | 16:53 |
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| sdake | then everyone leans how the gate works, everyone learns how the dev env works, everyone learns | 16:53 |
| kfox1111 | one thing I think would help is genericizing the "wait_for" scripts. make one that takes in a few arguments. might make it a lot less code for people to look through to understand. | 16:53 |
| inc0 | cool, I think we have a plan | 16:54 |
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| sdake | i guess we are out of time | 16:55 |
| sdake | opens? | 16:55 |
| sdake | or what | 16:55 |
| duonghq | ya, 5mins left | 16:55 |
| inc0 | opens. | 16:56 |
| inc0 | #topic open discussion | 16:56 |
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| clarkb | I will throw https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/testing.html out there as docs on how our test envs are set up and what you can rely on (if you think you've run into a cloud or region specific issue that may be helpful) | 16:56 |
| sdake | clarkb - thanks dude - didn't know that doc existed and been working on openstack for 5+ years :) | 16:56 |
| kfox1111 | clarkb: thanks. I do need to spend some more time with the gate and rax. currently the multinode is still failing always on it. | 16:57 |
| sdake | i think all the cores could spend the time to read it | 16:57 |
| clarkb | sdake: its relatively new, came out of barcelona as something we should have so put it together | 16:57 |
| kfox1111 | it started failing when we want to k8s 1.6. | 16:57 |
| sdake | clarkb ++ :) | 16:57 |
| inc0 | great | 16:57 |
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| inc0 | any more opens? | 16:57 |
| sdake | kfox1111 - lets figure out with infra how to actually root cause the rax problems | 16:58 |
| sdake | kfox1111 rather then rechecking a million times and blaming infra for what ostensibly is our gating code :) | 16:58 |
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| clarkb | also happy to look at logs again if you were able to gather more info off the subnode(s) | 16:58 |
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| sdake | clarkb I think a thread on the ml about this topic would be helpful - so we can figure out what logs to gather | 16:59 |
| inc0 | ok we're out of time | 16:59 |
| sdake | atm we don't know what to record | 16:59 |
| inc0 | thank you all! | 16:59 |
| inc0 | #endmeeting kolla | 16:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 19 16:59:56 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-04-19-15.59.html | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-04-19-15.59.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-04-19-15.59.log.html | 17:00 |
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| kfox1111 | sdake: yeah. I spent like 3 hours with them alredy on it. | 17:00 |
| kfox1111 | just ran out of time the other day. | 17:00 |
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| kfox1111 | will pick it back up today/tomorrow I hope. | 17:00 |
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| sdake | kfox1111 with who on which? :) | 17:03 |
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| sdake | kfox1111 with infra team? | 17:03 |
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