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| aavraham | jokke_: Hi , did the weekly upstraem glance meeting change time ? | 13:06 |
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| jokke_ | aavraham: nope | 13:52 |
| jokke_ | you did :) | 13:52 |
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| rosmaita | Courtesy meeting reminder on #openstack-meeting-4: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishek, bunting, dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat, aavraham, alex_bash | 13:57 |
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| jokke_ | o/ | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 30 14:00:13 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| stevelle | o/ | 14:00 |
| dharinic | \o | 14:00 |
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| hemanthm | o/ | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | guess i don't need to actually #topic roll call | 14:00 |
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| rosmaita | ok, hello everyone | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | light agenda today | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | my plan is to get through the first few items fairly quickly | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | and spend the remainder (except for open discussion) talking about image import | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | #topic updates - spec proposal freeze | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "updates - spec proposal freeze (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:02 | |
| rosmaita | the glance spec proposal freeze for pike is now in effect | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | #topic updates - openstack mission statement revision | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "updates - openstack mission statement revision (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:03 | |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.openstack.org/447031 | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | just in case you haven't seen the notice on the ML, there's a revision proposed to the openstack mission statement | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | to make it more "app-aware" | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | so, if you have strong feelings about this kind of thing, please take a look at that patch and comment | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | and that's all the updates | 14:04 |
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| rosmaita | #topic specs review strategy | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "specs review strategy (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:05 | |
| rosmaita | ok, the spec proposal deadline is passed, now we have to review and give feedback | 14:05 |
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| rosmaita | what i'd like to do is to get each core to adopt at least one spec | 14:05 |
| jokke_ | -2 eevrything :D | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | but let's move this discussion to the spec list | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-pike-specs-review | 14:06 |
| hemanthm | jokke_ and his -2 happiness :) | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | but seriously, we should -2 anything that doesn't look reasonable | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | ok, so please open your browser to the etherpad link i posted above | 14:06 |
| jokke_ | hemanthm: I just try to promote more relaxed attitude towards -2 ... cure by exposure :) | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | these were all the open patches at the deadline | 14:07 |
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| rosmaita | as i say in the comment about the first one, that's sort of a meta-spec -- it's a change to the template | 14:08 |
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| rosmaita | we can argume more about the template change later, but for now, use it to guide thinking about those specs that may require database changes | 14:08 |
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| rosmaita | ok | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | i volunteered dharini and stevelle to review 451560 | 14:10 |
| stevelle | np | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | it's a small change, and a code patch is up already | 14:10 |
| dharinic | Thanks rosmaita | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | it's a full spec instead of lite-spec because it has possible api impact | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | i should stress *minimal* impact | 14:11 |
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| rosmaita | minimal and legitimate | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | but i digress | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | 450621 is about how to deal with removing a deprecated option | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | there are some weird interactions with the policy layer | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | but once we get the behavior sorted out, it shouldn't be bad code-wise | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | and dharinic already has a code patch up for some of it | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | 206120 has been around for a long time | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | sort of a glance all-star list of past cores have reviewed it | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | priority-wise, i'm not so sure about it | 14:13 |
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| jokke_ | does not mean that you need to agree with them 'though ;) | 14:13 |
| stevelle | I disagree, jokke_ ! :) | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | well, i mentioned it primarily for anyone who wanted to take a stroll down memory lane | 14:14 |
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| jokke_ | :) | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | i guess i should mention what the expectations are here | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | i'd like particular cores to be assigned to each spec | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | to give early feedback | 14:15 |
| dharinic | Good idea rosmaita | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | then it's up to the proposer to be prompt in making revisions | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | but there's no pressure that these things *must* be approved | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | we just want early feedback so revisions can happen before the spec freeze | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | ok, moving on | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | 442863 is awaiting response, so that one's ok for now | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | 448680 is unreviewed | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | it's a small change though, and one operators need | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | but, it impacts the API | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | and there's an opportunity for some bikeshedding | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | key thing is we need something to supplement the current 'checksum' in glance | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | something cryptographically secure | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | jesse's proposal is to use a "multihash", a self-identifying hash | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | that way, you're not stuck with a particular algorithm forever | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | but some details need to be worked out | 14:19 |
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| rosmaita | ok the rest are all lite specs | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | need some volunteers ... | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | key thing is quick feedback about whether a spec-lite is enough | 14:20 |
| jokke_ | I do think that the current hash security issue is critical enough for us to _need_ to figure out fix for it | 14:20 |
| stevelle | i figure i am on enough of them already | 14:20 |
| jokke_ | even if we end up breaking the API again ;) | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | i think we are ok | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | i think we have a non-breaking way to do that | 14:20 |
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| rosmaita | ok, i just volunteered to look at the lite specs | 14:21 |
| hemanthm | I'll look at them too | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | any non-cores, by the way, should look at specs, too | 14:21 |
| stevelle | 444530 is one jokke_ should look at since it was largely his idea | 14:21 |
| stevelle | in terms of the expected solution | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | i don't mean to imply that only cores should review | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | i just want to make sure there's at least one core taking a look | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | so non-cores who want to become more involved, please review! your quality comments will be noticed | 14:22 |
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| jokke_ | stevelle: k | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | ok, last thing | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | at the bottom there are some proposed specs that I -1'd back in ocata, with no response | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | I may just abandon them | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | with a nice note | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | i do want us to think about 373896, though | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | we still don't have a plan for what to do about OSSN-0075 | 14:24 |
| jokke_ | 373896 is something we need to discuss carefully, perhaps take it up in the Forum | 14:24 |
| jokke_ | :) | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | good point about the forum | 14:25 |
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| rosmaita | #action propose something around OSSN-0075 for the forum or incorporate it into a current proposal | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | ok, thanks everyone ... early feedback is important, spec freeze is in 2 weeks | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | which brings us to the next item | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | #topic releaze czar report | 14:26 |
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| hemanthm | I'll keep this quick | 14:26 |
| hemanthm | I'll be taking over the realse CPL duties from sigmavirus, who has done an amazing job for us last cycle. | 14:27 |
| hemanthm | To ensure we release Glance on time, we must stick to our priorities and respect community milestones. | 14:27 |
| hemanthm | To do the necessary for each milestone, in consultation with the PTL, I'll set a deadline. | 14:27 |
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| hemanthm | And, there will be close to no exceptions to sneak something in too close to/after the deadline. (blame sigmavirus, he started playing tough and I have no option but to follow :P ) | 14:27 |
| hemanthm | I'll be using the following etherpad to track our milestones and priorities | 14:27 |
| hemanthm | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-pike-ptg-roadmap-prelim | 14:27 |
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| hemanthm | rosmaita already talked about spec proposal freeze and spec freeze | 14:27 |
| hemanthm | Then, we have Pike-1 coming up soon in R-20, Apr 10 - Apr 14. | 14:28 |
| hemanthm | Anything that is intended for Pike-1 must be merged no later than Thursday next week, that is April 6th. | 14:28 |
| hemanthm | I understand that rosmaita wants to merge partial image download stuff. He may talk more about that later. | 14:28 |
| hemanthm | done | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | hemanthm: thank you | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | #topic would like to get into P-1 | 14:29 |
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| rosmaita | dharinic has been working on some partial download stuff | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | the 3 patches are noted on the agenda | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | they are mostly ready, but will be a review priority this week | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | the other priority is, of course, image import | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | and on that note ... | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | #topic image import refactor | 14:30 |
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| rosmaita | jokke_ has had some patches up | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | for the backend "stage" | 14:31 |
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| rosmaita | jokke_ has some technical issues he wants to discuss | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | but first, i do want to say | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | we need to keep in mind that the image import refactor has been bikeshedded extensively | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | at this point, we are stuck with the basic design | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | so please keep that in mind | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | also, while we don't want to merge bad code | 14:33 |
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| rosmaita | we should have a "patch later" policy on the non-essential stuff (e.g., exact wording of help text) | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | that's it from me | 14:33 |
| jokke_ | dharinic: thanks for pointing out that state error in the workflow ... apart from that I've tried to figure out why the gate does not like the config option checks. Any insight for that would be great. Do we overwrite the config object in tests and I need to add it up there or do I have some (re)basing issue lingering there (the staging endpoint is just pep8 issue) | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | anyone have any ideas ^^ | 14:35 |
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| hemanthm | I didn't look at the import patches yet, will comment if I know anything | 14:36 |
| jokke_ | thnx hemanthm | 14:36 |
| dharinic | You are welcome jokke_. | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | hemanthm: maybe you can just look specifically at that config option check | 14:37 |
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| hemanthm | sure, will do | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | i think you and dharinic are the most experienced with the config stuff | 14:37 |
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| jokke_ | so this is the one in the chain https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443632/3 where the errors starts | 14:37 |
| jokke_ | http://logs.openstack.org/32/443632/4/check/gate-glance-python35/9f6f124/console.html#_2017-03-10_12_51_30_241611 | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | we've got time, let's all look now | 14:38 |
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| dharinic | I think we need it here paste_deploy_opts | 14:41 |
| dharinic | oops. https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/opts.py | 14:41 |
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| dharinic | actually not. Apologies. | 14:42 |
| dharinic | jokke_ added the opts under an existing group. | 14:42 |
| jokke_ | yes that option should be in the DEFAULT | 14:42 |
| jokke_ | so I really think that patch is either not basing correctly or we overwrite the conf object (not the input to config parser) somewhere ... 'cause it should pick up the default even not specified | 14:43 |
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| stevelle | we don't need to import it, like show_multiple_locations do we? | 14:45 |
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| jokke_ | it should come with the import from glance.common.config | 14:47 |
| jokke_ | but that said, I'm not convinced anymore | 14:47 |
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| hemanthm | jokke_: what patch does that depend on? | 14:47 |
| jokke_ | hemanthm: the workflow patch that depends on the config patch | 14:48 |
| dharinic | the config patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391441/4 | 14:48 |
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| dharinic | workflow patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391442/ | 14:48 |
| hemanthm | so, I don't see that in my git log when I download that patch | 14:49 |
| stevelle | depends on sha bb0acf1278b3e9cfe9ff4b0eba094a73f4534512 // WIP:Add api_image_import flow 42/391442/4 | 14:49 |
| stevelle | rather, child of | 14:49 |
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| hemanthm | I mean, I don't see the patch that's adding the config opt in the git log. So, maybe the dependency chain is messed up? | 14:49 |
| hemanthm | or is it just me? | 14:50 |
| jokke_ | hemanthm: and that why I'm not convinced that it's based correctly in gerrit ... I tried to rebase it but the output was the same | 14:50 |
| jokke_ | and I'm not sure how it should work when you pull it down from gerrit | 14:50 |
| jokke_ | that's why I'm crying for help ;) | 14:50 |
| jokke_ | as I don't know anymore | 14:50 |
| hemanthm | it should pull down all commits it depends on | 14:51 |
| hemanthm | here's what I see. | 14:51 |
| hemanthm | http://paste.openstack.org/show/604865/ | 14:51 |
| jokke_ | ok ... so the dependency chain is definitely messed up in gerrit then | 14:51 |
| dharinic | I would manually try adding dependency branch wise. | 14:51 |
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| stevelle | it looks right to me, this change is grandchild of the one that introduces config | 14:52 |
| stevelle | hemanthm: https://review.openstack.org/gitweb?p=openstack/glance.git;a=log;h=9b2deb9a13f3a74cb694d7ad55eaeac57d393b94 | 14:52 |
| hemanthm | stevelle: do you see all ancestors when you pull that change down? | 14:53 |
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| stevelle | hemanthm: yes, when I use checkout | 14:55 |
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| stevelle | git fetch https://git.openstack.org/openstack/glance refs/changes/32/443632/3 && git checkout FETCH_HEAD | 14:55 |
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| dharinic | I do not the see the ancestors when i download that patch | 14:56 |
| hemanthm | ok, so just downloading the review won't pull dependencies? | 14:56 |
| stevelle | you say downloading the review, that's ambiguous to me :) | 14:56 |
| dharinic | Whereas actually with just a git review -d, ideally we should be able to see it | 14:56 |
| hemanthm | git review -d | 14:56 |
| hemanthm | yeah, that's what I'd expect | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | me too | 14:57 |
| hemanthm | I did see the dependencies when I was working rolling upgrades chain | 14:57 |
| dharinic | I can say that with confidence cos just yesterday i created a manual branch wise dependency and downloading (git review -d) the child, pulls the parent and appears on the git log | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | ok, let's continue in openstack-glance, it would be great if we could get jokke_ unstuck | 14:58 |
| stevelle | I never use review -d, just out of habit | 14:58 |
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| rosmaita | #topic open discussion | 14:58 |
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| rosmaita | anyone got anything? | 14:58 |
| jokke_ | stevelle: yeah | 14:58 |
| jokke_ | -st | 14:58 |
| hemanthm | rosmaita: o/ | 14:58 |
| jokke_ | I'll be in Boston ... anyone else got confirmed yet? | 14:58 |
| nikhil | will try to provide feedback on the doc for release stuff later today | 14:58 |
| stevelle | thanks | 14:58 |
| hemanthm | I was thinking about organizing an on-boarding event every two weeks or so | 14:59 |
| blancos | Just a question about Glance v1 deprecation plans: Is that something that's going to be removed during Pike? | 14:59 |
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| jokke_ | blancos: no | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | blancos: no, but it hasn't been announced yet | 14:59 |
| blancos | jokke_ rosmaita Okay, thank you | 14:59 |
| jokke_ | just realistically not possible | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | ok, got to stop | 15:00 |
| rosmaita | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 30 15:00:06 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2017/glance.2017-03-30-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| jokke_ | we're not going to undeprecate it either ;) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2017/glance.2017-03-30-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2017/glance.2017-03-30-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
| jokke_ | thanks all | 15:00 |
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| rosmaita | let's continue in opnestack-glance if anyone has any ideas about what's going on with jokke's patch | 15:00 |
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| sjmc7 | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 30 15:01:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sjmc7. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| lei-zh | o/ | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack search)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search' | 15:01 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | I | 15:02 |
| Kevin_Zheng | I | 15:02 |
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| TravT | o/ | 15:02 |
| Kevin_Zheng | 0/ | 15:02 |
| sjmc7 | morning/evening all | 15:02 |
| sjmc7 | probably going to be quite a short one unless anyone else has stuff they want to talk about | 15:03 |
| sjmc7 | #topic nova versioned notifications | 15:03 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | I have one :) | 15:04 |
| sjmc7 | I haven’t had as much time as I’d like, but looking at them, switching to versioned payloads for instances shouldn’t be a big deal | 15:04 |
| sjmc7 | Kevin_Zheng: you were able to receive instance.update events correctly, right? | 15:05 |
| sjmc7 | i think i must have failed to restart one of the nova components | 15:05 |
| Kevin_Zheng | Yeah | 15:06 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | Probably API | 15:06 |
| sjmc7 | ah, yes, possibly | 15:06 |
| Kevin_Zheng | Because suspend notify sent from compute but update sent from API | 15:07 |
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| sjmc7 | i’ll retry. it’s nice that the payloads are complete for all the notification times | 15:07 |
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| sjmc7 | that should mean we can get everything we need from the notifications. the network information looked a bit different from what we currently have but i think it should be possible to make it fit | 15:07 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | Sure | 15:08 |
| sjmc7 | i’m hoping to get a patch up by this time next week but my time’s still really restricted | 15:08 |
| sjmc7 | at the moment, leaving nova to send out unversioned notifications should be sufficient since the payloads are very similar | 15:09 |
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| sjmc7 | #topic Overridable default filters | 15:10 |
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| sjmc7 | the other part of this is handling nova’s “deleted” case | 15:11 |
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| sjmc7 | i’ve put up a spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451846/ | 15:11 |
| * gibi is lurking late | 15:11 | |
| Kevin_Zheng | Cool will check tomorrow | 15:12 |
| sjmc7 | to allow plugins to define filters that are applied to all queries unless the user specifies otherwise, to handle cases like nova’s ‘NOT deleted’ and glance’s community images | 15:12 |
| sjmc7 | we can do something that’s “good enough” by looking at the query i think | 15:12 |
| sjmc7 | so if “deleted” is present as a key in a query, we won’t apply that default filter | 15:13 |
| Kevin_Zheng | Sounds good | 15:14 |
| sjmc7 | the other option is to have an explicit field for ‘don’t apply these defaults’ which is a bit safer but requires knowledge of what the defaults are. not sure the best approach | 15:15 |
| lei-zh | looks some more work needed for query_string | 15:15 |
| sjmc7 | yeah. the use cases though are quite limited so i don’t think it has to be perfect | 15:15 |
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| lei-zh | maybe with regular expression we can deal with that case | 15:16 |
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| sjmc7 | what’s the phrase? ‘Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use regular expressions." Now they have two problems.’ | 15:17 |
| sjmc7 | anyway, that is something we’ll need to support in some form i think | 15:19 |
| lei-zh | or just looking for the exact key is enough : ) | 15:19 |
| lei-zh | yep | 15:19 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, that would be my first thought, keep it really simple | 15:19 |
| sjmc7 | that was all i had on the agenda for today; like i say, i’ve been really short on time the last few weeks | 15:19 |
| sjmc7 | #topic open discussion | 15:19 |
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| sjmc7 | anyone else? Kevin_Zheng ? | 15:19 |
| Kevin_Zheng | Yeah | 15:20 |
| Kevin_Zheng | My colleague asked one interesting question | 15:20 |
| Kevin_Zheng | I will just paste the whole thing here | 15:20 |
| Kevin_Zheng | Searchlight to support multi-region deployments. | 15:21 |
| Kevin_Zheng | Telecom operators want to deploy lightweight OpenStack into small site, for example uCPE, the number of small sites may reach to 100k. Cloud administrator wants to have a flexible search capability for all resources provision in these distributed OpenStack instances. | 15:21 |
| Kevin_Zheng | In fact, this is a typical scenrio for searchlight to support OpenStack multi-region deployments. In one region, administrator can do the search in Nova, Cinder or Neutron. But if there are many regions, then no tool currently to provide cross region search capability. | 15:21 |
| Kevin_Zheng | The idea is to deploy the listener in each region, but deploy the searchlight API and elasticsearch in a centralized way, all data collected from listeners will be put into centralized elasticsearch. | 15:21 |
| Kevin_Zheng | The risk to serialize the data into elasticsearch directly from listener is lack of authorization. So it's better to provide data input API in searchlight API, so that only authorized access can be allowed, this will be critical important in multi-region deployments. And listener can be configured to serialize data via elasticsearch API directly or via | 15:21 |
| Kevin_Zheng | searchlight API. | 15:21 |
| Kevin_Zheng | So it is about supporting SL over multiple regions | 15:22 |
| sjmc7 | This came up before, one sec | 15:22 |
| sjmc7 | we actually did a PoC at one of the summits (tokyo i think) | 15:22 |
| Kevin_Zheng | Cool | 15:23 |
| sjmc7 | you can set up elasticsearch to act as a proxy/multiplexer | 15:23 |
| sjmc7 | it’s in the docs as ‘tribe nodes’ https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/modules-tribe.html | 15:23 |
| TravT | See https://docs.openstack.org/developer/searchlight/plugins.html?highlight=include_region_name#global-configuration-options | 15:23 |
| TravT | include_region_name | 15:24 |
| TravT | and https://docs.openstack.org/developer/searchlight/plugins.html?highlight=include_region_name#inheritable-common-configuration-options | 15:24 |
| TravT | override_region_name | 15:24 |
| sjmc7 | tribe nodes don’t store any data, they just proxy queries out. you can point searchlight-api at a tribe node and it’ll then search multiple clusters, and yeah, with that option TravT just mentioned you can separate data by region | 15:24 |
| sjmc7 | searchlight-listener runs on each site to a single cluster | 15:24 |
| Kevin_Zheng | Cool | 15:24 |
| Kevin_Zheng | Will check it | 15:25 |
| sjmc7 | that doesn’t deply searchlight centrally, and doesn’t aggregate the data physically, but it does let you reach out to your various sites | 15:25 |
| sjmc7 | you could also set up replication from the regions to a central point | 15:25 |
| sjmc7 | but that’s not something elasticsearch has native, you’d need a tool to do it | 15:25 |
| Kevin_Zheng | Hmm | 15:25 |
| TravT | http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/searchlight-specs/specs/newton/cross-region-search.html | 15:26 |
| Kevin_Zheng | Thanks, this is cool | 15:26 |
| sjmc7 | clustering across data centers isn’t recommended because of the risk of network connectivity causing brain farts in the cluster | 15:26 |
| sjmc7 | so you’d need something more like mysql replication to shunt data periodically from each cluster to a central one if you wanted to do that | 15:27 |
| sjmc7 | the tribe thing worked really well | 15:27 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/353681/ | 15:27 |
| sjmc7 | obviously it requires keystone-to-keystone federation so you have shared users & projects | 15:27 |
| Kevin_Zheng | Yeah, they have already done that part | 15:28 |
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| breton | keystone-to-keystone federation probably doesn't give you shared projects | 15:29 |
| breton | (if it does, i'd love to see how) | 15:29 |
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| sjmc7 | hmm, ok. that might prove a bit tricky then | 15:29 |
| breton | oh well, on the second thought, it does | 15:29 |
| breton | but only with Ocata | 15:29 |
| breton | but still, not project ids, but only project names | 15:30 |
| Kevin_Zheng | Thanks for the info thought, might be a good chance to use SL in real commercial deployments | 15:30 |
| sjmc7 | yeah. i’d look at that first. if project ids aren’t consistent across sites then it might need a bit more work because it’d become very hard to collate information in different regions | 15:31 |
| Kevin_Zheng | I will provide them the info and maybe they can do some tests and provide feedbacks | 15:32 |
| TravT | that'd be great! | 15:32 |
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| sjmc7 | yeah. they can always ask on the list or in IRC if they want some help | 15:33 |
| Kevin_Zheng | Yeah, I will leave notes there | 15:33 |
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| sjmc7 | ok | 15:35 |
| sjmc7 | thanks for the discussion, good people are thinking about it. anyone got anything else? | 15:35 |
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| lei-zh | nope | 15:36 |
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| sjmc7 | ok, in that case i guess we’ll call it here | 15:39 |
| sjmc7 | thanks all | 15:39 |
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| sjmc7 | #endmeeting | 15:40 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 30 15:40:30 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2017/openstack_search.2017-03-30-15.01.html | 15:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2017/openstack_search.2017-03-30-15.01.txt | 15:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2017/openstack_search.2017-03-30-15.01.log.html | 15:40 |
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| asettle | #startmeeting openstack_ansible_meeting | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 30 16:00:33 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is asettle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack_ansible_meeting)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible_meeting' | 16:00 |
| andymccr | yay | 16:00 |
| andymccr | o/ | 16:00 |
| xgerman | o/ | 16:00 |
| asettle | Good job team | 16:00 |
| spotz | \o/ | 16:01 |
| evrardjp | o/ | 16:01 |
| asettle | Love to see you all here :) | 16:01 |
| asettle | https://media.giphy.com/media/14urMYvFxIKEms/giphy.gif | 16:01 |
| palendae | o/ | 16:01 |
| asettle | Oh c'mon gif | 16:01 |
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| asettle | #topic Roll call (just so we have it, although thanks everyone for already doing it) | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll call (just so we have it, although thanks everyone for already doing it) (Meeting topic: openstack_ansible_meeting)" | 16:02 | |
| asettle | Omg I made that the whole topic hAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH | 16:02 |
| asettle | *head desk* | 16:02 |
| asettle | odyssey4me: I hear you, but I don't see you. | 16:02 |
| andymccr | o/ | 16:02 |
| asettle | yes yes we get you andymccr :p | 16:02 |
| asettle | I'll give it 2 more mins before we kick off the fun | 16:03 |
| palendae | o/ | 16:03 |
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| jmccrory | o/ | 16:04 |
| asettle | jmccrory: bout time | 16:04 |
| asettle | slacker | 16:04 |
| asettle | Where is logan- | 16:04 |
| * asettle taps foot | 16:04 | |
| logan- | o/ | 16:04 |
| andymccr | hahah | 16:04 |
| logan- | :D | 16:04 |
| asettle | That's right logan- | 16:04 |
| asettle | odyssey4me: bro I see you typing commit messages. | 16:04 |
| asettle | Okay let's rock it | 16:05 |
| asettle | #topic Review action items from last week | 16:05 |
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| asettle | andymccr: did we have any? | 16:05 |
| asettle | There's none in the agenda. | 16:05 |
| andymccr | i was out for the last 2 meetings | 16:05 |
| andymccr | so im guessing no :) | 16:05 |
| asettle | Beautiful | 16:05 |
| asettle | *dusts off hands* | 16:05 |
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| asettle | #topic Operations guide requires review | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Operations guide requires review (Meeting topic: openstack_ansible_meeting)" | 16:05 | |
| evrardjp | I think there was none | 16:05 |
| asettle | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-ansible/draft-operations-guide/index.html | 16:05 |
| asettle | Yo homies, all review | 16:05 |
| asettle | #action OSA TEAM TO REVIEW OR ALEX WILL BE UPSET | 16:06 |
| asettle | Good action | 16:06 |
| andymccr | asettle: didn't we have some offers to do that last time? | 16:06 |
| andymccr | well it would've been 3 meetings ago | 16:06 |
| andymccr | we should track that - i think people usually just need a prod to say "hey you were interested is that still the case here" | 16:06 |
| evrardjp | well we skipped that part on previous meeting | 16:06 |
| evrardjp | but I think this deserves # actions items | 16:06 |
| asettle | evrardjp: make it so | 16:07 |
| evrardjp | #action evrardjp work on the firewll for ops guide | 16:07 |
| asettle | Gracias evrardjp :) | 16:07 |
| evrardjp | haha already one :p | 16:07 |
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| asettle | andymccr: you want to go back to action items yo | 16:08 |
| andymccr | yeah sorry i checked the logs | 16:08 |
| asettle | *tsk* | 16:08 |
| andymccr | i know im terrible | 16:08 |
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| asettle | #action Andy to actually update the meeting agenda each week | 16:08 |
| andymccr | hahaha | 16:08 |
| andymccr | yes yes | 16:08 |
| andymccr | we had 2 action items | 16:09 |
| andymccr | 1 was to unblock the gate | 16:09 |
| andymccr | AFAIK this is a big tick - so thank you everybody for that help | 16:09 |
| asettle | https://media.giphy.com/media/xb8zoHFCKU0Ra/giphy.gif | 16:09 |
| andymccr | if that isn't the case let me know. | 16:09 |
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| andymccr | we have another action item which is for me to look into getting an onboarding room at the summit - i need to do that still | 16:10 |
| andymccr | so | 16:10 |
| andymccr | #action andymccr to look into getting an on-boarding room at the summit (carry-over) | 16:10 |
| asettle | You can get a lunch room, email Kendal andymccr | 16:10 |
| asettle | Kendall* | 16:10 |
| asettle | On the dev list | 16:10 |
| andymccr | sweet nice tip :) | 16:10 |
| andymccr | and 2 other action items | 16:10 |
| spotz | Try for Thursday if possible, so I can help:) | 16:10 |
| andymccr | spotz: awesome will do - and thanks for the offer! | 16:10 |
| asettle | Good idea :) | 16:10 |
| andymccr | so last 2 action items: review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445334/ | 16:11 |
| andymccr | thats another tick since its merged :P | 16:11 |
| asettle | http://quotesblog.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/PuW18jf.gif | 16:11 |
| andymccr | and one more which is a carry over | 16:11 |
| asettle | Oh c'mon gif | 16:11 |
| asettle | We'll go back to this since it worked: https://media.giphy.com/media/xb8zoHFCKU0Ra/giphy.gif | 16:11 |
| andymccr | #action review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447151 and talk about shared "osa community goals" for network integration best practices next week (useful for trove and octavia) | 16:11 |
| andymccr | xgerman: have you spoken with kylek3h and some of the other people working on the trove role - if there is link over there? | 16:11 |
| xgerman | we discussed it last week | 16:12 |
| andymccr | ahh i see kylek3h is on that review already :) so magic is happening | 16:12 |
| xgerman | at the meeting | 16:12 |
| odyssey4me | :) | 16:12 |
| andymccr | sweet :) xgerman do we need to talk more about that this week? | 16:12 |
| xgerman | though reviews have been slow after last week | 16:12 |
| andymccr | ok cool so another prod to get some reviews in | 16:12 |
| xgerman | yep | 16:12 |
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| asettle | https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT_PRvH1I6k2uI8IGJNdrVvGg0dAkRRs5bpZcyvsRgL9jb_d_kcyg | 16:13 |
| asettle | Omg wh | 16:13 |
| andymccr | ok so that is all the action items i believe | 16:13 |
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| asettle | https://media.giphy.com/media/m80Q4HTDNPFHq/giphy.gif | 16:13 |
| asettle | OMG WHAT | 16:13 |
| asettle | I should realy test these before the meeting | 16:13 |
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| andymccr | true story | 16:13 |
| asettle | palendae: the next item is python naming, is this really still a thing? | 16:13 |
| palendae | asettle: It is not | 16:14 |
| asettle | REMOVE IT | 16:14 |
| odyssey4me | nope - cleaning up the agenda is not really a strong point :p | 16:14 |
| * asettle slams gavel | 16:14 | |
| asettle | odyssey4me: periodic jobs? | 16:14 |
| andymccr | i think we hav enew ones coming up | 16:14 |
| odyssey4me | that can come off too | 16:14 |
| asettle | Cause if it's not, imma rage quit. | 16:14 |
| asettle | OH that's it | 16:14 |
| asettle | You're all useless :p | 16:14 |
| andymccr | no i mena | 16:14 |
| odyssey4me | there are some new ones coming in | 16:14 |
| andymccr | yeah ^ that | 16:14 |
| odyssey4me | I should prod infra to merge them | 16:14 |
| palendae | asettle: No argument from me | 16:14 |
| asettle | #topic Periodic jobs | 16:14 |
| asettle | odyssey4me: | 16:14 |
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| odyssey4me | #link https://review.openstack.org/449272 | 16:15 |
| odyssey4me | a whole bunch more | 16:15 |
| asettle | MOre? | 16:15 |
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| andymccr | yeah the periodical work is great, so if we have more ideas around thigns we should be testing but aren't - lets discuss get them setup and move on! | 16:15 |
| asettle | https://admin.mashable.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/excited-baby.gif | 16:16 |
| asettle | ^^ a gif of me, moving on | 16:16 |
| stevelle | heh | 16:16 |
| asettle | #topic Moving to uWSGI/NGinx | 16:16 |
| andymccr | odyssey4me: do we need anything else on periodicals or are we good/no more topic needed for next week? | 16:16 |
| asettle | andymccr: | 16:16 |
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| andymccr | OK! so - I have proposed a WIP patch for using upstream NGinx and uWSGI for Nova placement: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451425/ | 16:17 |
| andymccr | there is some discussion going on | 16:17 |
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| andymccr | so please review and comment and give thoughts/feedback | 16:17 |
| andymccr | #action review and comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451425/ | 16:17 |
| andymccr | this will then be used as the base of the pattern for our community goal around using wsgi apps everywhere | 16:17 |
| asettle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451425/ | 16:17 |
| asettle | Ooohh Ahhhh | 16:17 |
| asettle | Importento | 16:17 |
| andymccr | so we need consensus on how that will go | 16:17 |
| evrardjp | I think we all need a time to digest this before consensus can happen | 16:18 |
| andymccr | evrardjp: agreed | 16:18 |
| evrardjp | when do we take decision? | 16:18 |
| evrardjp | next week's meeting? | 16:18 |
| asettle | That seems reasonable. | 16:18 |
| andymccr | evrardjp: there is no immediate rush, since half the projects don't support wsgi apps properly yet | 16:18 |
| asettle | Okay :) | 16:18 |
| andymccr | but once they are ready i'd like to start motoring through them | 16:18 |
| andymccr | that said, i'd really like to get some reviews on that | 16:19 |
| andymccr | so logan- jmccrory looking at you 2 :) and anybody else - this is an important change that is going to shape the arch/way we install services etc | 16:19 |
| evrardjp | yea, and we can already think of cloudnull's ideas (or alternatives) because they are already technically doable | 16:19 |
| andymccr | evrardjp: yeah agreed - that is literally a first pass, (or second since i reworked it today) | 16:19 |
| andymccr | if it would help i will write a blueprint/spec about it and we can discuss whilst looking at that patch | 16:19 |
| evrardjp | but yes, adding reverse proxying there in the mix or not | 16:19 |
| * asettle nods thoughtfully | 16:20 | |
| asettle | I agree. | 16:20 |
| andymccr | ok cool :) | 16:20 |
| asettle | Shall we move on? | 16:21 |
| odyssey4me | yeah, as this is a change in architecture, I think it's important to have a spec to help us and others understand the motivations | 16:21 |
| odyssey4me | and the decisions made | 16:21 |
| andymccr | ok cool | 16:21 |
| andymccr | #action andymccr to create spec for uwsgi/nginx changes | 16:21 |
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| andymccr | ok all good on this topic i think! | 16:22 |
| asettle | You got it boss | 16:22 |
| asettle | #topic Weekly meeting host! | 16:22 |
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| asettle | mhayden has abandoned us | 16:22 |
| asettle | Because he hates you all | 16:22 |
| asettle | ANd now we need a new meeting host | 16:22 |
| andymccr | Ok so - mhayden has a meeting clash or the above might be more true :) | 16:22 |
| asettle | ... it's the above andymccr | 16:22 |
| asettle | Don't be lying to the children now | 16:23 |
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| asettle | evrardjp already is a champ and hosts our weekly bug triage | 16:23 |
| andymccr | so if there is somebody who would be keen to get involved and start hosting the meetings on a weekly basis that would be awesome! | 16:23 |
| asettle | It's not hard. Having a core be able to participate would be ideal. | 16:23 |
| asettle | logan- jmccrory spotz odyssey4me mgariepy | 16:23 |
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| * asettle sits, and waits. | 16:24 | |
| andymccr | or perhaps we should look at changing the meeting time - i know we've had this discussion before, but if the consensus is that this time doesnt work at all - for the majority of people. we should look to change it | 16:24 |
| odyssey4me | :) I'd prefer to give someone else a chance. | 16:24 |
| odyssey4me | I'm happy to rotate with someone though. | 16:25 |
| asettle | odyssey4me: true, you've done your duties. You're honourably discharged. | 16:25 |
| odyssey4me | meeting time change is fine for me, but would that be earlier or later | 16:25 |
| jmccrory | time is rough for me, i'm catching commute near beginning or end depending on daylight savings time | 16:25 |
| andymccr | odyssey4me: would have to figure it out based on when works for people | 16:26 |
| asettle | Hmmm okay, maybe we should consider moving. But only on the basis there's more participation? | 16:26 |
| andymccr | i think ^ is the key issue | 16:26 |
| asettle | Like, I'm going to call it, there's no point in having meetings where andymccr odyssey4me and evrardjp chat to themselves. | 16:26 |
| andymccr | yeah i think the key question is would another time work better for more people | 16:26 |
| odyssey4me | we'd also have to identify which days there are meeting room slots available | 16:26 |
| evrardjp | :) | 16:26 |
| asettle | So, if it means more participation moving, I'm all for it. | 16:26 |
| andymccr | or is there a better way to get work items discussed that is outside of meetings. | 16:26 |
| asettle | odyssey4me: true, we would. | 16:26 |
| asettle | andymccr: maybe its worth sending out to the OSA cores a poll? | 16:27 |
| spotz | asettle I might be able to host, need to double check conflicts. Sorry was on phone with vets | 16:27 |
| asettle | andymccr and odyssey4me - yo I get that it's easier to speak, but let's have this recorded please. | 16:27 |
| asettle | spotz: no problem :) | 16:27 |
| asettle | That would be cool, if you have no conflicts. | 16:27 |
| odyssey4me | probably best to do a ML post with the details of time slot options | 16:27 |
| andymccr | yeah lets try that | 16:28 |
| evrardjp | +1 | 16:28 |
| andymccr | ok | 16:28 |
| andymccr | i'll start that off | 16:28 |
| asettle | Okay, andymccr action that please :) | 16:28 |
| andymccr | #action andymccr to look into timeslots for meeting and poll the team to decide a best time | 16:28 |
| asettle | *nods* like it | 16:29 |
| andymccr | ok next! | 16:29 |
| asettle | #topic Release Planning and Decisions | 16:29 |
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| asettle | andymccr: go go go | 16:29 |
| andymccr | ok so releases will be going out this week, so tomorrow basically | 16:29 |
| andymccr | i think we got in all the critical fixes that im aware of - but if there are any outstanding let me know | 16:30 |
| xgerman | exit | 16:30 |
| asettle | xgerman: yo yo IRC bro | 16:30 |
| andymccr | we've done a minor version bump due to the change in repo server build | 16:30 |
| xgerman | I know | 16:30 |
| andymccr | but yeah. | 16:30 |
| andymccr | that is all for releases :) | 16:31 |
| asettle | Thanks andymccr :) | 16:32 |
| asettle | #topic Blueprint work | 16:32 |
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| asettle | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/upgrade-testing | 16:32 |
| asettle | andymccr: | 16:32 |
| asettle | Upgrade testing for core roles in openstack-ansible | 16:32 |
| andymccr | ok so | 16:32 |
| andymccr | we are at the last step | 16:32 |
| andymccr | just as an update | 16:32 |
| andymccr | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450198/ once that merges | 16:32 |
| andymccr | we will have voting upgrade jobs on the core roles | 16:32 |
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| asettle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450198/ | 16:33 |
| andymccr | so that may be a pain at first :) btu they are passing as of now, so lets try keep it that way | 16:33 |
| asettle | Sweet :) | 16:33 |
| andymccr | that is all on that bp - but after that it's gonna be closed and all done :) | 16:33 |
| asettle | Sweet as :) | 16:33 |
| asettle | #topic Open discussion | 16:33 |
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| jmccrory | for upgrade jobs in those roles, is plan to add testing to see how long any downtime is as well? | 16:36 |
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| andymccr | jmccrory: id say yes if/when we start to implement the zero downtime upgrades per service | 16:36 |
| andymccr | i think keystone is the only one right now | 16:36 |
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| andymccr | atm its more just a test that it works before and after | 16:36 |
| jmccrory | ah right, not sure where other projects are with that | 16:36 |
| andymccr | jmccrory: yeah i know cinder has some - they did a presentation at the ops midcycle | 16:37 |
| andymccr | would be great to get some time to actually work on that | 16:37 |
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| odyssey4me | yeah, we ideally should try and implement the rolling upgrades for cinder and nova | 16:38 |
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| odyssey4me | and swift, although that might already be there | 16:38 |
| odyssey4me | with those we can add the measurements | 16:38 |
| stevelle | I'm hoping to start submitting reviews for glance zero-downtime upgrades during pike | 16:39 |
| andymccr | hmm yeah i guess although in swift we can't do serial i think - which is the main issue with zero-downtime on restarting services | 16:39 |
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| palendae | andymccr: Cause of ring rebalancing? | 16:39 |
| andymccr | palendae: yeah mostly because of the way we sync things - it means if all hosts haven't run certain tasks it'll fail | 16:40 |
| andymccr | like it does an md5sum check on each hosts ring to make sure its good | 16:40 |
| andymccr | and then does some checks - but if you serialise that the var doesnt exist | 16:40 |
| andymccr | ideally need to rework that whole thing | 16:41 |
| andymccr | whilst ensuring it still works properly :P | 16:41 |
| palendae | Hm, yeah | 16:41 |
| palendae | That'll be tricky | 16:41 |
| palendae | And neutron routers have to shift around, too | 16:41 |
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| andymccr | yeah i think swift is easy from a tech perspective, hard from how we imp it perspective | 16:41 |
| andymccr | neutron is just hard i imagine :D | 16:41 |
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| palendae | Yeah, until we enable l3ha it's gonna be annoying | 16:42 |
| palendae | It was enabled, then turned off due to bugs, I don't know the current status | 16:42 |
| odyssey4me | not really hard | 16:43 |
| * asettle nods sagely | 16:43 | |
| asettle | Mmhmm | 16:43 |
| odyssey4me | just disable one agent, migrate the routers/networks, upgrade the disabled agent when they're done, then do the same for the other | 16:43 |
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| palendae | Anyway, sounds like odyssey4me's got it | 16:44 |
| odyssey4me | the tools are all there | 16:44 |
| andymccr | theoretically it will work perfectly :P | 16:44 |
| odyssey4me | and we enable l3ha by default anyway, so it'll likely just work :p | 16:45 |
| andymccr | ship it | 16:45 |
| odyssey4me | for a real online migration without it there's a bit more orchestration that needs doing | 16:45 |
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| odyssey4me | anyway, are we done for the day? | 16:46 |
| asettle | WE are | 16:46 |
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| andymccr | i believe so! | 16:46 |
| andymccr | thanks all :) | 16:47 |
| asettle | #endmeeting | 16:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 30 16:47:09 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2017/openstack_ansible_meeting.2017-03-30-16.00.html | 16:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2017/openstack_ansible_meeting.2017-03-30-16.00.txt | 16:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2017/openstack_ansible_meeting.2017-03-30-16.00.log.html | 16:47 |
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| LouisF | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 30 17:01:11 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is LouisF. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: service_chaining)" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining' | 17:01 |
| LouisF | hi all | 17:01 |
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| LouisF | doonhammer: hi John | 17:01 |
| doonhammer | Hi Louis | 17:01 |
| bcafarel | hello | 17:01 |
| pcarver | hi | 17:01 |
| vks1 | hi | 17:02 |
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| LouisF | #topic agenda | 17:02 |
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| LouisF | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ServiceFunctionChainingMeeting#Agenda_for_the_Networking-SFC_Meeting_.283.2F30.2F2017.29 | 17:02 |
| LouisF | anything to add to this? | 17:02 |
| igordcard | hi all | 17:03 |
| pcarver | I think there are some current gate problems aren't there? | 17:03 |
| LouisF | igordcard: hi | 17:03 |
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| pcarver | I haven't had time to really understand what's going on but seemed to be a few issues | 17:04 |
| bcafarel | pcarver: I was going to suggest the same thing :) | 17:04 |
| LouisF | pcarver: some neutron issue | 17:04 |
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| bcafarel | there was one fix that landed in neutron (so we are good) | 17:04 |
| pcarver | I saw a few changes from tmorin on sfc and I wasn't sure if that was related to unbreaking | 17:04 |
| LouisF | https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/1676656 | 17:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1676656 in networking-sfc "Extensions unit tests failing after neutron change" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Bernard Cafarelli (bcafarel) | 17:04 |
| bcafarel | that's the one | 17:05 |
| bcafarel | fixed in neutron so we can mark it as fixed for us too I guess | 17:05 |
| igordcard | right | 17:05 |
| LouisF | bcafarel: yes | 17:05 |
| bcafarel | pcarver: the one fix we really need is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450463/ | 17:05 |
| bcafarel | the others are enhancements to move code to ovs_lib | 17:06 |
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| LouisF | bcafarel: ok wf+1 | 17:07 |
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| bcafarel | that should get us back on track :) | 17:07 |
| LouisF | ok | 17:07 |
| LouisF | #topic CLI in python-neutronclient | 17:08 |
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| LouisF | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409759/ | 17:08 |
| LouisF | hope we can get this merged | 17:09 |
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| LouisF | #topic API reference | 17:09 |
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| LouisF | pcarver: what is status? | 17:10 |
| pcarver | LouisF: Armando wanted API ref to wait on def | 17:11 |
| LouisF | pcarver: ok | 17:11 |
| pcarver | I think def is probably in good shape but need someone to take a good look at what I deleted | 17:11 |
| igordcard | def looked alright to me | 17:11 |
| pcarver | The RESOURCE_ATTRIBUTE_MAP supports a "default" key which wasn't used in some cases | 17:11 |
| LouisF | def looks ok | 17:12 |
| pcarver | instead there was a "validator" key that called various functions that didn't seem to do more than replace None with defaults | 17:12 |
| pcarver | so I removed those and just put the appropriate constants into the R_A_M as the values of the related "default" keys | 17:12 |
| pcarver | I don't really understand why functions were defined in the first place | 17:13 |
| pcarver | unless the "default" keys weren't available originally | 17:13 |
| pcarver | Unless I've missed something, and just populating values for the "default" key doesn't get the job done | 17:13 |
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| LouisF | all please review | 17:15 |
| LouisF | #topic Pike work | 17:15 |
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| LouisF | igordcard: how is SFC graph work? | 17:16 |
| igordcard | LouisF: I updated the api patch | 17:17 |
| igordcard | working on the rest | 17:17 |
| LouisF | igordcard: thanks | 17:17 |
| igordcard | slowly, loads of other things going on at the moment | 17:17 |
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| LouisF | igordcard: yes indeed | 17:17 |
| igordcard | I'm not going to the summit btw | 17:18 |
| LouisF | igordcard: ok | 17:18 |
| LouisF | #topic Tap SF | 17:18 |
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| LouisF | vks1: you posted https://review.openstack.org/#/c/411409/ | 17:19 |
| vks1 | LouisF: yeah | 17:19 |
| LouisF | there some comments | 17:20 |
| vks1 | there are few things need discussion | 17:20 |
| LouisF | vks1: go ahead | 17:20 |
| vks1 | if the port-pair-group have multiple TAP, then will the traffic be loadbalanced | 17:20 |
| vks1 | ? | 17:21 |
| LouisF | vks1: yes | 17:22 |
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| vks1 | there was a comment for consecutive TAP, since passive TAP doesn't forward packet, how it can be realized ? | 17:25 |
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| LouisF | vks1: by consecutive tap do you mean that a port chain has two hops that have a tap? | 17:27 |
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| vks1 | LouisF: yeah that's what I have kept the restriction | 17:28 |
| vks1 | that two consecutive hops can't be TAP | 17:28 |
| LouisF | vks1: i say that can be the case | 17:29 |
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| LouisF | for example hop1 can be a traffic monitoring SF and hop2 can be a IDS SF | 17:29 |
| LouisF | both are passive | 17:29 |
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| vks1 | LouisF: usually this is basically like deploying both devices in parallle | 17:30 |
| vks1 | *parallel | 17:30 |
| LouisF | at hop1 (PPG1) the packets are duplicated: one pkt is sent to SF, other pkt is forwarded on to hop2 | 17:31 |
| vks1 | LouisF: yeah that's pretty much parallel deployment | 17:31 |
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| vks1 | LouisF: for now lets keep restriction and after I have things working will relax | 17:32 |
| LouisF | the PPG scaling allows multiple SF of the _same_ type to be included (for example, all SFs in PPG must IDS) | 17:32 |
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| LouisF | vks1: not sure what you mean by relax? | 17:33 |
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| LouisF | the PPG scaling has a very specific purpose | 17:33 |
| vks1 | LouisF: I mean allow consecutive TAP , ok | 17:33 |
| LouisF | the PPG LB will distribute traffic to SFs of the _same_ type | 17:33 |
| LouisF | vks1: ok that should be a supported use case as I mentioned | 17:34 |
| vks1 | LouisF: there is a problem I see in forwarding packet to TAP SF when both TAP and dest./next hop are on different compute | 17:34 |
| pcarver | Another way to say it is that for a single packet it will go to exactly one PP in each PPG | 17:34 |
| LouisF | pcarver: +1 | 17:35 |
| LouisF | vks1: that should not be a problem | 17:35 |
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| LouisF | vks1: that is handled currently | 17:35 |
| vks1 | is it how ? | 17:35 |
| LouisF | the tap SF can be on one compute node and the next hop SF can be on another node | 17:36 |
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| LouisF | the ovs driver design does that non-tap case | 17:36 |
| LouisF | the tap must be able to support that also | 17:37 |
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| LouisF | the duplicated packet can be handled as if it "appears" to arrive from the egress port of the tap SF | 17:38 |
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| vks1 | SFC doesn't configure br-tun flows , non-tap case works because MACs get re-written | 17:38 |
| LouisF | then all the SFC fowarding logic is used | 17:38 |
| vks1 | br-tun will not forward to TAP SF compute , instead it will forward to original dest. | 17:39 |
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| LouisF | vks1: when br-int receives a packet from egress port of SF current behavior is to forward to next SF on same node or another node | 17:41 |
| vks1 | LouisF: should we discuss this after meeting ? | 17:42 |
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| LouisF | vks1: ok | 17:42 |
| LouisF | this can be done by doing a resubmit | 17:43 |
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| LouisF | ok moving on | 17:43 |
| LouisF | #topic OVN driver | 17:43 |
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| LouisF | doonhammer: i see there was comment on the sfc for ovn patch | 17:44 |
| doonhammer | yes I sent some back to Mickeys - think we are narrowing it down | 17:45 |
| LouisF | doonhammer: great | 17:45 |
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| doonhammer | more comments/ideas welcoem of course | 17:45 |
| LouisF | ok i will look at it | 17:46 |
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| LouisF | #topic other items | 17:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "other items (Meeting topic: service_chaining)" | 17:48 | |
| LouisF | i have a meeting at 11 so will end now | 17:49 |
| LouisF | bye all | 17:50 |
| bcafarel | just a quick mention of recent patches by tmorin, if all these go in, we should be able to use the standard OVSCookieBridge without any sfc-specific code, have a look | 17:50 |
| bcafarel | and bye :) | 17:50 |
| LouisF | bcafarel: ok | 17:50 |
| LouisF | #endmeeting | 17:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 30 17:50:34 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2017/service_chaining.2017-03-30-17.01.html | 17:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2017/service_chaining.2017-03-30-17.01.txt | 17:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2017/service_chaining.2017-03-30-17.01.log.html | 17:50 |
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