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| ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 08:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 1 08:01:01 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 08:01 |
| ifat_afek | Hi :-) | 08:01 |
| nofarsch | Hi! | 08:01 |
| tojuvone | Hi | 08:01 |
| idan_hefetz | hi | 08:02 |
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| ifat_afek_ | Sorry, I got disconnected | 08:07 |
| alexey_weyl | Hello | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek_ | Today’s agenda: | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek_ | •Status and Updates | 08:08 |
| ifat_afek_ | •Pike Design sessions | 08:08 |
| ifat_afek_ | •Open Discussion | 08:08 |
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| ifat_afek | #topic Status and Updates | 08:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status and Updates (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:08 | |
| ifat_afek | My updates: still working on Doctor stuff. Did not progress so much, since I was on vacation and busy with other tasks. | 08:08 |
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| ifat_afek | #link https://gerrit.opnfv.org/gerrit/#/c/28379/ | 08:08 |
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| ifat_afek | #link https://gerrit.opnfv.org/gerrit/#/c/28593/ | 08:08 |
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| ifat_afek | #link https://gerrit.opnfv.org/gerrit/#/c/28845/ | 08:08 |
| ifat_afek | As part of the work done for Doctor, I wrote manual installation guide in Vitrage | 08:08 |
| yujunz | I went to the wrong meeting room... | 08:09 |
| ifat_afek | :-) | 08:09 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://review.openstack.org/434353 | 08:09 |
| ifat_afek | It is now being used as a reference by Gergely Csatari, who wishes to push a “real” installation guide to Vitrage, by OpenStack’s guidelines | 08:09 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://review.openstack.org/437494 | 08:09 |
| ifat_afek | That’s it for me | 08:09 |
| ifat_afek | danoffek says he is about to finish the vitrage id | 08:10 |
| eyalb | \o | 08:10 |
| alexey_weyl | I will update | 08:11 |
| alexey_weyl | I am in the last miles of the "not" operator support in the temlates | 08:11 |
| alexey_weyl | *templates | 08:11 |
| alexey_weyl | only left to do some change in the scenario_evaluator | 08:12 |
| alexey_weyl | hopefully will be pushed till the weekend | 08:12 |
| alexey_weyl | thats it | 08:12 |
| ifat_afek | alexey_weyl: great, thanks | 08:12 |
| ifat_afek | Anyone else wants to update? | 08:12 |
| yujunz | I will | 08:13 |
| yujunz | Preparing slides for the coming design session | 08:13 |
| yujunz | #link https://goo.gl/ujd6m9 | 08:13 |
| yujunz | The outline is done. | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | yujunz: it looks great | 08:13 |
| yujunz | The details are under work by each topic owner | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | If no one else has updates, then lets more to the Pike design session topic | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Pike Design Sessions | 08:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Pike Design Sessions (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:14 | |
| ifat_afek | Resending the link to the schedule etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vitrage-pike-design-sessions | 08:14 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vitrage-pike-design-sessions | 08:14 |
| ifat_afek | yujunz: just to make it clear - you said that the only session that is important to your colleagues from China is on Tuesday, right? | 08:15 |
| yujunz | Yes, the most important ones | 08:15 |
| yujunz | They are also interested in other topics, but not as important as those two | 08:16 |
| ifat_afek | Ok. So you prefer to keep the morning hours in all days? and I should create video conference invites for all sessions? | 08:17 |
| yujunz | That would be good and also for Tuesday afternoon | 08:17 |
| yujunz | It is likely the discussion will extend to whole day | 08:18 |
| ifat_afek | No problem. | 08:18 |
| ifat_afek | But how about more the start hour to 9:30 Israel time? (15:30 Shanghai) | 08:18 |
| yujunz | OK, no problem | 08:18 |
| ifat_afek | Do you want to discuss the schedule in details? | 08:19 |
| ifat_afek | In Monday 10:30-11:30, what do you mean by “opening”? | 08:20 |
| yujunz | For you to give a open talk? :-) | 08:20 |
| ifat_afek | I don’t have anything to talk about for an entire hour :-) | 08:20 |
| ifat_afek | 15 min maybe, for us all to discuss the goals and agenda for the coming week | 08:21 |
| yujunz | Alright, I should not put an end time | 08:21 |
| yujunz | Feel free to update | 08:21 |
| ifat_afek | So I’ll update the etherpad | 08:21 |
| yujunz | I'm estimating the length of each talk, so that it will be easier for you to make the agenda | 08:22 |
| ifat_afek | Now we have free time slot 11-11:30. Anything you propose to put there? | 08:22 |
| ifat_afek | cool | 08:22 |
| yujunz | graphdb? | 08:22 |
| yujunz | If possible | 08:22 |
| ifat_afek | I think the agenda for Monday makes sense. We won’t have much time and mitmstack is important | 08:22 |
| ifat_afek | graphdb sounds like a long session, I would put it on Wednesday maybe | 08:23 |
| ifat_afek | I see that you added time estimations, so we will have spare time | 08:23 |
| ifat_afek | If you think that mitmstack is only 30min, we can put it at 11:00. Or the branching policy | 08:23 |
| yujunz | Maybe you can put a roadmap for Pike? | 08:24 |
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| yujunz | Or you'd like to draw conclusion on the closing talk? | 08:24 |
| ifat_afek | Makes sense, although as far as Nokia is concerened we don’t have the final priorities yet | 08:24 |
| ifat_afek | We are considering integrations with Mistral and with Glare. These are new ideas that were raised this week | 08:25 |
| ifat_afek | So maybe writing down the roadmap at the end of the week makes more sense | 08:25 |
| yujunz | Then we can go over a complete list of possible topics at 11:00 slot | 08:25 |
| yujunz | I mean for Pike roadmap | 08:26 |
| yujunz | And draw a draft roadmap on closing, does that work for you? | 08:26 |
| ifat_afek | Sure. And maybe adjust the agenda | 08:26 |
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| ifat_afek | Yes | 08:26 |
| tojuvone | Could update the schedule consistent to be clear it is local time or UTC | 08:26 |
| ifat_afek | tojuvone: Hi. I was just thinking the same | 08:27 |
| ifat_afek | I’ll change everything to UTC later on | 08:27 |
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| ifat_afek | And I wanted to ask you - you wanted to discuss the host maintenance. How long do you think we need for this session? any preferred timeslot? | 08:28 |
| tojuvone | ifat_afek, thanks, just to be sure when remotely conencted ;) | 08:28 |
| ifat_afek | All listed times are UTC+2 | 08:28 |
| ifat_afek | I will send webex invites, I count on webex to handle it :-) just let us know when you are available | 08:29 |
| tojuvone | well, to me it is more roughly to present the idea | 08:29 |
| ifat_afek | But I assume it should be followed by a discussion, right? | 08:29 |
| tojuvone | maybe 30-45min if some discussion anyhow | 08:29 |
| ifat_afek | Ok. Any preffered time? | 08:30 |
| ifat_afek | Looks like we can schedule it on Wednesday or Thursday | 08:30 |
| tojuvone | morning times are good for my normal work hours | 08:30 |
| tojuvone | either one would do | 08:30 |
| ifat_afek | OK | 08:30 |
| tojuvone | I am going to work to get something by OPNFV summit to have a demo | 08:31 |
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| tojuvone | but yet there would be more just the idea what would be coming | 08:31 |
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| ifat_afek | ok | 08:32 |
| tojuvone | but it will be good to see and discuss what it would mean in Vitrage | 08:32 |
| ifat_afek | yujunz: I think we should schedule one hour for the persistent graph database, and 45min for the host maintenance. Where do you see it fit? | 08:33 |
| yujunz | Let me check | 08:33 |
| ifat_afek | Do you have concrete plans for all the sessions you listed? are they all planned for Pike? beause if some are future plans, maybe we could make them shorter | 08:34 |
| yujunz | You may merge topics in Wednesday morning to Thursday | 08:34 |
| yujunz | They are mostly open topics | 08:34 |
| yujunz | done | 08:34 |
| ifat_afek | I forgot to change the start times to 9:30, so we will have less time… | 08:34 |
| ifat_afek | looks good | 08:35 |
| ifat_afek | tojuvone: Wednesday at 7:30-8:30 UTC is good for you? for the host maintenance? | 08:36 |
| tojuvone | yes, looks good :) | 08:36 |
| yujunz | The time in afternoon can be extend, currently it is time slot convenient for China only | 08:37 |
| ifat_afek | BTW, I didn’t include the IRC meeting in the agenda. I think we can skip it next week, unless someone objects | 08:37 |
| ifat_afek | It’s fine for us as well | 08:37 |
| yujunz | I mean there are other topics to be allocated | 08:38 |
| yujunz | Such as UI, machine learning and etc | 08:38 |
| ifat_afek | We did not leave time for UI improvements, but I think that if someone takes this task then we can discuss it then | 08:38 |
| ifat_afek | Regarding machine learning - we started a POC, I’m not sure how much progress we will have in Pike. We can discuss it if you want | 08:39 |
| yujunz | Yes, I'm quite interested in it | 08:39 |
| yujunz | +1ed | 08:39 |
| ifat_afek | And we have two hours left on Thursday. So maybe we can schedule it then. I don’t think we need two hours for writing the roadmap overview | 08:39 |
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| yujunz | Looks good | 08:42 |
| ifat_afek | Regarding UI - do you think we need another session for it? | 08:42 |
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| yujunz | Or you can open a free slot for discuss AoB? | 08:42 |
| yujunz | I see also vitrage client test in the list | 08:43 |
| ifat_afek | What do you mean by AoB? | 08:44 |
| yujunz | any other business as in IRC meeting :-) | 08:44 |
| ifat_afek | :-) | 08:45 |
| ifat_afek | Regarding the test Vitrage client - maybe we can add a 30min slot for discussing Vitrage tests in general | 08:46 |
| yujunz | Sounds good | 08:46 |
| ifat_afek | Or indeed leave an Open Discussion slot at the end | 08:46 |
| tojuvone | Normal design summit way :) | 08:47 |
| yujunz | I had a hard time with the trace generator when implementing static datasource... | 08:47 |
| yujunz | So quite interested in the testing topic | 08:47 |
| ifat_afek | Ok. So how extending the “branching” slot on Monday to include testing, packaging, etc,? | 08:48 |
| yujunz | Sounds good | 08:49 |
| ifat_afek | yujunz: Now it’s a mess… I wrote branching on 11:00 and I see it is listed on 12:30 | 08:51 |
| ifat_afek | what was written there before my changes? | 08:51 |
| yujunz | I've removed 12:30 | 08:51 |
| yujunz | just now | 08:52 |
| ifat_afek | So let’s put it back and un-squeeze the 10:30-11:30 timeslot | 08:52 |
| yujunz | OK | 08:52 |
| ifat_afek | tojuvone: Monday at 10:30 or 11:30 UTC suits you, for the testing discussion? | 08:53 |
| tojuvone | ifat_afek, yes, it is possible | 08:54 |
| ifat_afek | Ok. Are we done? looks like a good agenda | 08:55 |
| yujunz | Shall we put the open discussion explicitly? | 08:55 |
| ifat_afek | Sure, I forgot about it | 08:56 |
| yujunz | on Thursday before closing | 08:56 |
| ifat_afek | Done | 08:56 |
| ifat_afek | We are almost out of time. Anything else? | 08:57 |
| yujunz | Let's test webex after meeting | 08:57 |
| yujunz | The audio didn't work | 08:57 |
| ifat_afek | I have a meeting in the coming 30min, so let’s test it afterwards. I’ll send a new invite | 08:57 |
| yujunz | OK | 08:58 |
| eyalb | bye | 08:58 |
| ifat_afek | Bye :-) | 08:58 |
| yujunz | bye | 08:58 |
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| nofarsch | נטק | 08:58 |
| nofarsch | bye* | 08:58 |
| tojuvone | bye | 08:58 |
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| ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 08:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic_neutron)" | 08:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 1 08:59:08 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-03-01-08.01.html | 08:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-03-01-08.01.txt | 08:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-03-01-08.01.log.html | 08:59 |
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| alex_xu | #startmeeting nova api | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 1 13:00:07 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova api)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_api' | 13:00 |
| alex_xu | who is here today? | 13:00 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | o/ | 13:00 |
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| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: sdague, are you around? | 13:00 |
| sdague | yeh | 13:01 |
| macsz | O/ | 13:01 |
| alex_xu | Kevin_Zheng: welcome back | 13:01 |
| sdague | man, it's wed already.... | 13:01 |
| alex_xu | yea... | 13:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | o/ | 13:01 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | alex_xu: ：） | 13:01 |
| alex_xu | I see why we didn't prorioty for api this release now, the policy stuff is waiting for more hierarchy quota things | 13:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | policy stuff? | 13:03 |
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| alex_xu | #topic anything we looking for api team in Pike although no prority task | 13:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "anything we looking for api team in Pike although no prority task (Meeting topic: nova api)" | 13:03 | |
| johnthetubaguy | that shouldn't be blocked by any hierarchy stuff | 13:03 |
| sdague | right, policy can happen now | 13:03 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: maybe I misunderstand the note at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-pike-api@6 | 13:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | I got the some OSIC folks kicked off on that yesterday, specs are up | 13:04 |
| sdague | alex_xu: yeh, honestly, when we got to the priorities section, it wasn't clear to me that there were must haves besides the policy docs | 13:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: +1 | 13:04 |
| sdague | alex_xu: happy to entertain ideas to move forward, it didn't seem like there were that many proposals for big pushes | 13:05 |
| alex_xu | i'm cool with that | 13:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: hmm, yeah, that note looks wrong to me | 13:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: we discussed all the policy stuff when the keystone folks came to visit, maybe thats what that meant | 13:05 |
| alex_xu | ah, i see now :) | 13:06 |
| sdague | right, there were kind of 2 different things there | 13:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | for other things, we did mention the api concepts guide needs some more love, but with api-ref in a good shape its not as critical as policy docs IMHO | 13:07 |
| alex_xu | yea | 13:07 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: what about https://review.openstack.org/433037 ? | 13:08 |
| alex_xu | just waiting for more review? | 13:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | FWIW ironic have already done a great start at the policy stuff: https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/8db68fef4e97b2ed6552b80215ab03093f18e615/ironic/common/policy.py | 13:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: for me all three specs just need reviewing as a sub team, then getting the other specs-cores to take a look afterwards | 13:09 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: got it, i'm clear the path now | 13:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | I believe keystone are planning on doing the move policy into code, and add descriptions bit | 13:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | has anyone got any questions on the three policy specs? | 13:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | if you are like me, you are still having your brain reboot post PTG, so thats more for next week | 13:12 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: no, I just need to get enough breathing space to start reading | 13:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: cool, totally | 13:12 |
| alex_xu | me too | 13:13 |
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| alex_xu | so i think we are clear the plan, anything more? | 13:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | I found a pending spec of mine around tidying up security groups APIs | 13:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | I frankly don't have the bandwidth on that | 13:14 |
| alex_xu | which one? | 13:14 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382414/ | 13:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | so if someone wanted to take that and drive it, I would be more than happy | 13:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | for the notes... | 13:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://developer.openstack.org/api-guide/compute/users.html | 13:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | #help lots of api-guide TODOs that need filling in | 13:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | #info main focus is likely policy docs, please review the spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433010/ | 13:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | for extra context, there is a POC here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/434842/ | 13:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link POC for policy docs: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/434842/ | 13:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | there is a POC for the scope work, which is way more confusing | 13:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link POC for policy scope here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/435485/ | 13:18 |
| alex_xu | I remember we talk about deprecation personality? that should be a simple microversion? if yes, I can take that | 13:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link spec for policy scope work here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433037 | 13:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: good point, that needs a spec doing | 13:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: I think mriedem was going to take that | 13:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | worth asking him | 13:19 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: ok, cool, i will check with thm | 13:19 |
| alex_xu | s/thm/him | 13:19 |
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| johnthetubaguy | thats all I have for sure | 13:20 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: thanks for the link | 13:20 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I suppose quota changes are API related, and sdague is taking up that one with keystone | 13:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | but its more a tracking/planning thing for us this cycle, I assume | 13:21 |
| sdague | yeh | 13:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | (well except the cells v2 related changes, but thats not really API as such) | 13:21 |
| sdague | and fending off the folks that want to rip up current progress :) | 13:22 |
| alex_xu | I guess we didn't have freeze timeline yet? | 13:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | we didn't do timelines, thats true | 13:23 |
| alex_xu | ok, that probably we come out later i guess | 13:24 |
| alex_xu | I think we can move on | 13:24 |
| alex_xu | #topic open | 13:25 |
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| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/409644 | 13:25 |
| alex_xu | bhagyashris: ^ have a patch to fix a strange value of rotation | 13:25 |
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| alex_xu | it is also a case we need to think about the question "microversion or not" | 13:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | "Caveat: The last backup of an instance should be deleted by user explicitly." | 13:26 |
| alex_xu | but I feel the backup API maybe a target we want to deprecate in the future? | 13:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am not sure what that means | 13:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think the question here is would we backport this change to all previous stable releases, well maybe. | 13:27 |
| alex_xu | emm....not sure how to answer the question about would we backport this change | 13:29 |
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| johnthetubaguy | well, is it a bug fix we want to backport, with zero discoverability | 13:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | ... maybe, I could go either way | 13:30 |
| alex_xu | the backup API is something we can implement in the client with create_image API, so i wonder is anybody want to deprecate backup API? | 13:30 |
| alex_xu | sdague: ^ any thought? | 13:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think it was meant to eventually do differential snapshots, but I don't believe it does today | 13:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | that caveat, I wonder if it means you can delete all old snapshots by passing in a value of zero? | 13:33 |
| alex_xu | yes, it is entire snapshot | 13:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | if thats the case, we might want to keep this, and just fix the code so it stops creating a new snapshot, and just deletes the old ones | 13:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | FWIW, I think this is one of the rubbish APIs that were "inherited" from the old slicehost cloud API | 13:34 |
| bhagyashris | yeah as I have changed the rotation parameter from 0 to 1 then user will nedd to delete tha last backup explicity | 13:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | feels like we should just stop the code creating the extra snapshot then | 13:35 |
| bhagyashris | s/nedd/need | 13:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | would that fix the problem? | 13:35 |
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| alex_xu | emm...I also feel like that, just stop the code creating the extra snapshot | 13:37 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bhagyashris: I added a link to the two lines in the code you need to look at to skip creating the snapshot if rotation==0 | 13:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | bhagyashris: there are some niggles around upgrade that make it not quite that simple, but that shouldn't be too bad | 13:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | s/niggles/problems/ | 13:39 |
| bhagyashris | ok. | 13:40 |
| alex_xu | ok, bhagyashris if you feel good now, i think we can move on | 13:41 |
| bhagyashris | yeah sure | 13:42 |
| bhagyashris | thank you. | 13:42 |
| alex_xu | np | 13:42 |
| * alex_xu just found that involve service min_version | 13:43 | |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 13:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | only skip creating the snapshot, once all nova-compute nodes are upgraded | 13:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | creating the snapshot record in glance, that is | 13:44 |
| alex_xu | yea | 13:44 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: so you want to keep the api behaviour consistent in upgrade? | 13:45 |
| alex_xu | I feel it is fine just some nodes skip the snapshot, some nodes not. | 13:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | well, its more about ensuring it works | 13:46 |
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| johnthetubaguy | if you don't create the snapshot, old compute nodes will fail backup | 13:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | because they are still trying to upload the snapshot | 13:46 |
| alex_xu | whatever all the snaphsot will be deleted finally, the result of API won't change | 13:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, the API doesn't change | 13:46 |
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| johnthetubaguy | except there is no longer a snapshot that is created and deleted, but thats basically a noop | 13:47 |
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| alex_xu | ah, image created in the nova api | 13:48 |
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| alex_xu | I see now | 13:50 |
| alex_xu | so...anything else we want to bring up? | 13:50 |
| Kevin_Zheng | i have one | 13:50 |
| Kevin_Zheng | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/423112 | 13:50 |
| Kevin_Zheng | Do we like this or not | 13:51 |
| Kevin_Zheng | ? | 13:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | it seems we implemented the spec just fine, but the DB can fit more in than the API | 13:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | feels like we should keep 60 limit, let me check the API-WG spec | 13:51 |
| alex_xu | I also feel it isn't worth a microversion | 13:52 |
| Kevin_Zheng | If that's the case I will abandon this and do my other tags related bp with limit 60 :) | 13:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | hmm, we should update the api-wg spec: https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/api-wg/guidelines/tags.html | 13:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | it doesn't seem to mention max lenght | 13:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | I don't think we should increase it really, unless we have a really good reason | 13:53 |
| alex_xu | yes, it didn't metion it | 13:53 |
| * alex_xu add a todo for himself | 13:53 | |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: +1 | 13:54 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | I will update the API e.g. | 13:54 |
| Kevin_Zheng | API wg | 13:54 |
| alex_xu | Kevin_Zheng: cool | 13:55 |
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| alex_xu | so anything more? | 13:55 |
| johnthetubaguy | just to be clear, we enforce the 60 character limit in the API right? | 13:55 |
| johnthetubaguy | in the json schema I assume? | 13:55 |
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| alex_xu | yea, as i read, it is 60 | 13:56 |
| alex_xu | in schema | 13:56 |
| alex_xu | I guess Kevin_Zheng just drop the network | 13:57 |
| alex_xu | ok, 3 mins, I guess no more will bring up | 13:58 |
| alex_xu | thanks all! | 13:58 |
| alex_xu | #endmeeting | 13:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 1 13:58:35 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-03-01-13.00.html | 13:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-03-01-13.00.txt | 13:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-03-01-13.00.log.html | 13:58 |
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| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: ah cool: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/validation/parameter_types.py#L418 | 13:58 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: yea | 13:58 |
| Kevin_Zheng | Yaah, network is bad and I'm trying to download a client :) | 14:00 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | 影响力上升啊 | 14:02 |
| Kevin_Zheng | sorry wrong channel | 14:03 |
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| inc0 | #startmeeting kolla | 15:58 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 1 15:58:42 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is inc0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:58 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:58 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 15:58 |
| inc0 | #topic rollcall | 15:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:58 | |
| inc0 | hello all:) | 15:59 |
| britthouser4 | hey! | 15:59 |
| britthouser4 | 0/ | 15:59 |
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| duonghq | o/ | 15:59 |
| egonzalez | woot / | 15:59 |
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| sp_ | woot / | 15:59 |
| akwasnie | o/ | 16:00 |
| pbourke | o/ | 16:00 |
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| krtaylor | o/ | 16:00 |
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| Jeffrey4l | woot | 16:00 |
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| portdirect | w00t | 16:01 |
| sdake | o/ :) | 16:01 |
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| jascott1 | woot | 16:02 |
| inc0 | ok, we have busy agenda so I'll move on | 16:02 |
| inc0 | #topic Announcements | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:02 | |
| inc0 | I have 2: 1. thank you all for great PTG | 16:03 |
| * krtaylor was happy to meet everyone at PTG | 16:03 | |
| inc0 | notes and session list are available here: | 16:03 |
| inc0 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-pike-ptg-schedule | 16:03 |
| inc0 | and 2. We release ocata next week! | 16:03 |
| inc0 | I'd like to encourage everyone to step up testing | 16:03 |
| inc0 | and fix these last few things that are broken | 16:04 |
| inc0 | also we'd need good answer about whether or not Kolla runs on docker 1.13:) | 16:04 |
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| zhubingbing | o/ | 16:04 |
| zhubingbing | sorry | 16:04 |
| inc0 | any announements from community? | 16:04 |
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| inc0 | no worries zhubingbing, welcome | 16:05 |
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| inc0 | guess no announcements | 16:06 |
| inc0 | #topic Applying for the Stable project maturity tag | 16:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Applying for the Stable project maturity tag (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:06 | |
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| inc0 | sdake: I assume it's yours | 16:06 |
| inc0 | can we make it shorter than 20min plz? | 16:06 |
| inc0 | there is topic in agenda I'd love to talk about today | 16:07 |
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| sdake | yup | 16:07 |
| sdake | not sure if it can be | 16:07 |
| sdake | but will try | 16:07 |
| sdake | so - we applied for the stable maturity tag in the past | 16:07 |
| sdake | now that liberty is EOL we can do so again | 16:07 |
| sdake | and daviey will be our liason (confirmed on irc) | 16:07 |
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| inc0 | from release team? | 16:07 |
| sdake | the one thing that Jeffrey4l had a q about was the lifetime of mitaka (2.0.2) | 16:07 |
| sdake | daviey is a core reviewer | 16:08 |
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| sdake | and he is also on the stable maint team | 16:08 |
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| inc0 | ok makes sense | 16:08 |
| sdake | I can submit the review if you like | 16:08 |
| inc0 | I'll do it | 16:08 |
| sdake | cool | 16:08 |
| sdake | i guess we can leave the unanswered question unanswered | 16:08 |
| sdake | although liberty (1.x) is EOL | 16:08 |
| sdake | and 2.0.2 (newton) is about to be eoled March 3rd | 16:08 |
| inc0 | mitaka | 16:09 |
| sdake | so heads up to everyoen involved ;) | 16:09 |
| inc0 | newton still has 6 months in it | 16:09 |
| sdake | sorry newton^mitaka | 16:09 |
| Jeffrey4l | we need release last tag before | 16:09 |
| Jeffrey4l | for mitaka branch . | 16:09 |
| sdake | right we do need one last tag for pip | 16:09 |
| sdake | maybe its march 10th | 16:09 |
| sdake | i foget which it is :) | 16:09 |
| Jeffrey4l | no matter whether kolla branch is remove or not. | 16:09 |
| sdake | this is the undefined part | 16:10 |
| inc0 | yeah I agree | 16:10 |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l: can we tag this week? | 16:10 |
| sdake | trailing cycle projects don't have a defined lifetime | 16:10 |
| inc0 | I don't expect any patches merging to stable/mitaka | 16:10 |
| inc0 | or stable/newton | 16:10 |
| Jeffrey4l | possible. | 16:10 |
| sdake | there are a bunch in th ebacklog | 16:10 |
| Jeffrey4l | there is nothing much for mitaka branch. | 16:10 |
| sdake | although we can punt on mitaka | 16:10 |
| sdake | oh cool then all good :) | 16:10 |
| inc0 | #action inc0 to submit review for maturity tag | 16:11 |
| sdake | ok i think that sums it up - inc0 i'll point you at my last take at this PMT | 16:11 |
| inc0 | I'd say we should all observe this review and address issues if release team will have it | 16:11 |
| sdake | inc0 there are a bunch of requirements needed - and we are hitting almost all of them | 16:11 |
| sdake | i'd love to pull it up now, however, i don't have it handy | 16:12 |
| inc0 | I'll take that with you later | 16:12 |
| sdake | if you can move on i can link it in the closing of the meeting | 16:12 |
| inc0 | ok, let's move on | 16:12 |
| sdake | tia ;-) | 16:12 |
| inc0 | #topic serial in kolla-ansible | 16:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "serial in kolla-ansible (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:12 | |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l: you're up | 16:12 |
| Jeffrey4l | thanks. | 16:12 |
| Jeffrey4l | this may related to next topic. | 16:12 |
| Jeffrey4l | by duonghq | 16:12 |
| Jeffrey4l | i saw some issue when test upgrade from newton to ocata. | 16:13 |
| Jeffrey4l | check this link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-ansible-serial | 16:13 |
| Jeffrey4l | serial try to upgrade service one node by another one. | 16:13 |
| Jeffrey4l | which will cause some unexpected issue. | 16:13 |
| Jeffrey4l | for example the sighup part in nova. | 16:14 |
| inc0 | but that's what rolling upgrade is | 16:14 |
| inc0 | ahh | 16:14 |
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| inc0 | I see what you mean | 16:14 |
| Jeffrey4l | i am not trying to use rolling upgrade. | 16:14 |
| inc0 | we are hitting ansible wall | 16:14 |
| Jeffrey4l | serial case some issue ;( | 16:15 |
| duonghq | agreed with Jeffrey4l | 16:15 |
| Jeffrey4l | and serial only works with playbook, which is bad, too. | 16:15 |
| inc0 | right | 16:15 |
| inc0 | yeah | 16:15 |
| inc0 | this is an example when serial would be needed at task level really | 16:15 |
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| Jeffrey4l | one propose i made is disable serial. | 16:15 |
| Jeffrey4l | inc0, yes. but found nothing about this. | 16:15 |
| duonghq | we need some task run only on 1st node, and some task run only on last or 1st node in the end, egonzalez also faced it | 16:15 |
| inc0 | but then it's not a rolling upgrade or no-downtime upgrade | 16:16 |
| Jeffrey4l | one possible solution is use a dynamic delete_to variable, but still testing this. | 16:16 |
| Jeffrey4l | kolla do not promise no-downtime upgrade. | 16:16 |
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| inc0 | yeah | 16:16 |
| duonghq | but if service has native support zero-downtime upgrade, we should support it too | 16:17 |
| inc0 | however if we have clear problem with ansible | 16:17 |
| Jeffrey4l | and no-downtime is what duonghq is doing and solving. | 16:17 |
| inc0 | yeah we want to optimize it as much as possible | 16:17 |
| sp_ | Jeffrey4l: yes | 16:17 |
| inc0 | no downtime is not a promise but it is a goal | 16:17 |
| duonghq | Jeffrey4l, you mean delegate_to? | 16:17 |
| Jeffrey4l | any way, we face some issue when during upgrade. | 16:17 |
| Jeffrey4l | duonghq, yep. i haven't test it. But i guess it should works. | 16:18 |
| inc0 | that's a good observation, maybe we should talk on #ansible to ask ansible people for opinions? | 16:18 |
| Jeffrey4l | inc0, good idea. | 16:18 |
| sp_ | inc0: yes actual zero down time would be possible its our goal | 16:18 |
| sp_ | would not be* | 16:18 |
| duonghq | any kolla-k8s people around? will we face same issue with k8s? | 16:18 |
| egonzalez | not all projects support no zero-downtime upgrade | 16:18 |
| Jeffrey4l | we need solve the serial issue. and better implement zone down time later. but they are two different thing, right? | 16:19 |
| inc0 | if Ansible will make this impossible, we should note that and work with them to make it possible | 16:19 |
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| inc0 | egonzalez: right, but more and more does | 16:19 |
| inc0 | which means this is problem we definetly need to fix | 16:19 |
| egonzalez | yeah, no doubt of it | 16:19 |
| Jeffrey4l | duonghq, i guess kolla-k8s start trying to solve upgrade issue . sdake right? | 16:19 |
| inc0 | k8s will not have this issue | 16:20 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l no - we are working on basic ugprades at some point in the future for 1.0.0 | 16:20 |
| inc0 | will have different issues;) | 16:20 |
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| inc0 | but yeah, that's a goal | 16:20 |
| Jeffrey4l | at last, one propose i want is disable serial, or at least disable this in default. | 16:20 |
| inc0 | I wouldn't surrender just yet tho, let's talk about it on #ansible after meeting | 16:20 |
| inc0 | yeah I tend to agree on that | 16:20 |
| Jeffrey4l | ok. | 16:20 |
| inc0 | we should also change "stop all schedulers" tasks | 16:21 |
| sp_ | sdake: basic upgrade means with downtime . right ? for kolla-k8s 1.0.0 | 16:21 |
| inc0 | as without serial they will only cause downtime we don't need | 16:21 |
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| duonghq | sp_, noop | 16:21 |
| duonghq | ah, sorry, yes | 16:21 |
| Jeffrey4l | openstack is more than a control plane. stop the services won't affect vms. | 16:21 |
| sdake | sp_ possibly | 16:21 |
| inc0 | well it's still gonna be ~minute of downtime per service | 16:21 |
| duonghq | for service need db migration, it'll take quite long time | 16:21 |
| inc0 | but we don't need to turn it off because of this issue | 16:22 |
| sdake | i think zero downtime upgrades is a great objective for kolla-ansible, whereas any upgrades are a great objective for kolla-kubernetes | 16:22 |
| Jeffrey4l | duonghq, when db migration, the service is still running. | 16:22 |
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| inc0 | it's only about restarting containers | 16:22 |
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| duonghq | Jeffrey4l, not sure, it's depended on service | 16:22 |
| sdake | although we can punt zero downtime upgrades t if it wont make the deadline (for kolla-ansible) | 16:22 |
| sp_ | sdake: yes, | 16:22 |
| inc0 | duonghq: right, but again, that's not this issue | 16:23 |
| Jeffrey4l | duonghq, yes. but checked nova/neutron/cinder/glance, these both support this. | 16:23 |
| duonghq | some service cannot working while db is in migration progress | 16:23 |
| inc0 | sdake: we are discussing that it's just impossible today with ansible being what it is | 16:23 |
| inc0 | it's not about us, it's about ansible | 16:23 |
| sdake | got i t | 16:23 |
| Jeffrey4l | duonghq, that's OK for before implement zero-downtime upgrade. | 16:23 |
| Jeffrey4l | serial can not solve such issue too. | 16:24 |
| inc0 | duonghq: right, but we can't help with it, that's on services themselfes | 16:24 |
| inc0 | themselves* | 16:24 |
| duonghq | inc0, right | 16:24 |
| duonghq | ah, we can do something | 16:24 |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l: on the other hand | 16:24 |
| inc0 | we *need* serial for compute nodes | 16:24 |
| Jeffrey4l | duonghq, delete_to may can do the magic | 16:25 |
| inc0 | so we're back at square one | 16:25 |
| Jeffrey4l | inc0, hrm reason? | 16:25 |
| duonghq | Jeffrey4l, delegate_to? | 16:25 |
| srwilkers | o/ | 16:25 |
| duonghq | hi srwilkers | 16:25 |
| Jeffrey4l | duonghq, yep. but i will try it. | 16:25 |
| Jeffrey4l | test it. | 16:25 |
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| inc0 | if you start pushing new containes to all of compute nodes at the same time | 16:25 |
| inc0 | it can be really bad | 16:25 |
| duonghq | we already use it at some point | 16:25 |
| inc0 | really quick | 16:25 |
| Jeffrey4l | i can pull the image before upgrade and this should be recommended too. | 16:26 |
| inc0 | ofc you can do *quasi* serial by modifying "forks" | 16:26 |
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| inc0 | Jeffrey4l: still good to do it in serial | 16:26 |
| inc0 | I'd hold on before we talk to #ansible | 16:27 |
| Jeffrey4l | forks handle task by task. it is different. but it may be helpful. | 16:27 |
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| Jeffrey4l | ok. let's move on. | 16:27 |
| inc0 | #topic ks-rolling-upgrade | 16:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "ks-rolling-upgrade (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:27 | |
| inc0 | duonghq: you're up | 16:28 |
| duonghq | thank you inc0 | 16:28 |
| Jeffrey4l | ( almost the same topic lol) | 16:28 |
| duonghq | basically, it's about how we test the upgrade progress | 16:28 |
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| sp_ | Jeffrey4l: same :) | 16:28 |
| duonghq | especially when doing zero-downtime and rolling upgrade | 16:28 |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l: it means it's important;) | 16:28 |
| Jeffrey4l | yep. | 16:28 |
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| Jeffrey4l | upgrading with load? | 16:29 |
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| duonghq | testing service before and after the upgrade it easier than testing if it still working when upgrade is been done | 16:29 |
| duonghq | up | 16:29 |
| duonghq | yup | 16:29 |
| sp_ | Jeffrey4l: yes | 16:29 |
| Jeffrey4l | in gate or in locally env? | 16:29 |
| inc0 | duonghq: there was session at ptg about gates to do it | 16:29 |
| sp_ | Jeffrey4l: thats why we call zero downtime | 16:30 |
| inc0 | best way I can think of to test rolling upgrade | 16:30 |
| duonghq | Jeffrey4l, in gate | 16:30 |
| inc0 | is deploy old -> test-old -> upgrade 50% of nodes -> test -> upgrade all -> test | 16:30 |
| Jeffrey4l | for load, we can use rally, right? | 16:30 |
| inc0 | for gates, we had session in ptg | 16:30 |
| zhubingbing | +1 | 16:31 |
| duonghq | seem that I missed many thing in PTG :( | 16:31 |
| inc0 | I'd say let's not start by focusing on most complex scenerio | 16:31 |
| zhubingbing | look so good | 16:31 |
| inc0 | let's start by: | 16:31 |
| inc0 | 1. multinode deploy gates | 16:31 |
| sp_ | duonghq: me too :( missed thing of PTG | 16:31 |
| inc0 | 2. multinode upgrade gates in a way: | 16:31 |
| sdake | duonghq indeed, its important to attend ptgs - even when remote participatoin is an option | 16:32 |
| sdake | duonghq we have a travel program to help out those who don't have funding to make it | 16:32 |
| inc0 | we deploy old from tarballs/registry -> we run test suite -> pull new from tarballs/registry -> upgrade -> test | 16:32 |
| sdake | we being the broader OpenStack here | 16:32 |
| zhubingbing | ;) | 16:32 |
| Daviey_ | (sdake: i'm here, but in another meeting) | 16:32 |
| inc0 | and frankly? I'd love to have this as one of highest priorities in Kolla for Pike | 16:32 |
| duonghq | inc0, I think it's ok atm, | 16:33 |
| sdake | Daviey_ all good - you did agree to serve as our stable liason - correct? if so, then I think we are gtg | 16:33 |
| Daviey_ | sdake: ack | 16:33 |
| Jeffrey4l | inc0, ++ the first thing kolla-ansible need to do is multi node gate. | 16:33 |
| duonghq | it worth a highest bp | 16:33 |
| inc0 | if we can make full upgrade gates, that's going to be awesome | 16:33 |
| duonghq | maybe long running bp | 16:33 |
| Daviey_ | sdake: Unless anyone else is super keen | 16:33 |
| sdake | Daviey_ i think everyone else is stretched thin | 16:33 |
| inc0 | agree duonghq also volunteers:) I volunteer myself but I'll need help | 16:33 |
| duonghq | sdake, I applied PTG :( | 16:33 |
| sdake | Daviey_ we need someone to coach and guide us on stable processes, kolla has become good at handling backports | 16:33 |
| Jeffrey4l | this should be split into multi bp. multi gate, upgrade, load , and combine all of those. | 16:34 |
| Daviey_ | duonghq: If you really want to do it, i don't mind. :) | 16:34 |
| egonzalez | i'll work on zero-downtimes upgrade | 16:34 |
| inc0 | yeah, and for Pike I'd focus on first 2 | 16:34 |
| sdake | Daviey_ nah he meant he applied for the tpg travel support and it was not accepted | 16:34 |
| inc0 | and get them rock solid | 16:34 |
| duonghq | *applied for TSP of PTG | 16:34 |
| inc0 | sdake: can we plz move this outside of meeting?;) | 16:34 |
| inc0 | let's stick to single topic | 16:34 |
| sdake | inc0 wfm | 16:35 |
| Daviey_ | Sorry, my fault. | 16:35 |
| Jeffrey4l | yes. we really need multi node gate. | 16:35 |
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| inc0 | ok, so duonghq is there anything else on your topic? | 16:35 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l zuul v3 is COMING | 16:35 |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l: my next topic will help getting this done;) | 16:35 |
| duonghq | no, I think some bps is good atm | 16:35 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l we have to wiat for that | 16:35 |
| Jeffrey4l | hrm, actually i do not think zuul v3 is required. even though sam think so. | 16:35 |
| sdake | i think zuulv3 is required | 16:36 |
| inc0 | sdake: no, we need to get it in place now and extend it when zuul gets on, that'd be my approach | 16:36 |
| sdake | and sam thinks it so | 16:36 |
| inc0 | why it's required? | 16:36 |
| inc0 | 2 nodes is something | 16:36 |
| sdake | 2 people think it - my thoughts are not based upon sam's opinion | 16:36 |
| duonghq | I'll work on gating in this cycle | 16:36 |
| Jeffrey4l | yep sam thinks so, but i am not. | 16:36 |
| inc0 | we still need to crack the networking | 16:36 |
| sdake | 2 nodes is something - so it shouldn't block multinode, bu tfor more then 2 nodes, zuulv3 is needed | 16:36 |
| inc0 | all the same | 16:36 |
| sdake | infra won't enable 3+ nodes without zuulv3 | 16:36 |
| inc0 | ok, but let's not "wait" for v3 | 16:37 |
| Jeffrey4l | why we need 3+ nodes? | 16:37 |
| sdake | ya no blocking | 16:37 |
| inc0 | let's do 2 nodes now and extend | 16:37 |
| Jeffrey4l | inc0, + | 16:37 |
| sdake | agreed - so lets rock :) | 16:37 |
| inc0 | ok | 16:37 |
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| egonzalez | +1 | 16:37 |
| inc0 | next topic then | 16:37 |
| Jeffrey4l | ( we are out of the topic ... ) | 16:37 |
| duonghq | +1 | 16:37 |
| inc0 | #topic post-ptg bps | 16:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "post-ptg bps (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:37 | |
| inc0 | ok that's an experiment for next 20min;) | 16:37 |
| inc0 | I'd like everyone to look at ptg notes | 16:38 |
| inc0 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-pike-ptg-schedule | 16:38 |
| sp_ | inc0: gone through | 16:38 |
| inc0 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-pike-ptg-blueprints | 16:38 |
| inc0 | pick a session and draft blueprints they see in ^ this etherpad | 16:39 |
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| inc0 | then, on following meetings we'll add bluepritns with notes | 16:39 |
| inc0 | I don't want our ptg effort to go to waste | 16:39 |
| inc0 | we should record blueprints out of notes and assign ourselves if we feel we want to do osmething | 16:40 |
| zhubingbing | agre | 16:40 |
| sp_ | inc0: +1 | 16:40 |
| inc0 | So I'll start writing down upgrade bps | 16:40 |
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| duonghq | inc0, nice | 16:41 |
| inc0 | I'd encourage everyone to do the same for other sessions | 16:41 |
| inc0 | timebox - till 16:55 | 16:41 |
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| zhubingbing | sup sdake | 16:42 |
| sdake | zhubingbing working my ass off :) | 16:43 |
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| zhubingbing | ok | 16:43 |
| sdake | zhubingbing although I was at the ptg, I want other people to write the blueprints | 16:43 |
| sdake | i'll add what I think are necessary in future meetings | 16:44 |
| zhubingbing | understand | 16:44 |
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| jascott1 | should we have one BP for all `blocking 1.0 reqs`? | 16:47 |
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| sdake | jascott1 i think we need to be careful with what we define as blocking 1.0 reqs, as some of the zero downtime upgrades are not really blocking - however put in whatever ou think is helpful and we can follow the standard openstack blueprint process | 16:51 |
| jascott1 | sdake was talking about this one https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-pike-ptg-k8s-release-roadmap | 16:51 |
| sdake | jascott1 right i know - i think it makes sense to sort those out into blueprints | 16:52 |
| jascott1 | oh ok | 16:52 |
| sdake | jascott1 if you want to get that started, that would rock :) | 16:53 |
| duonghq | agree with sdake about zero-downtime upgrade for kolla-k8s 1.0.0, it seems that we have many works for 1.0.0 | 16:53 |
| sdake | duonghq we can record them all and then use standard blueprint process to select the ones that are essential | 16:53 |
| duonghq | sdake, ack | 16:53 |
| inc0 | ok few last remarks on this | 16:53 |
| sp_ | sdake: +1 | 16:53 |
| inc0 | we'll repeat this on next meeting too as we surely can get more blueprints out of these notes | 16:54 |
| duonghq | sdake, do we need some Y-stream version before 1.0.0? | 16:54 |
| inc0 | also I encourage everyone to take some time to do it outside meeting | 16:54 |
| inc0 | also feel free to post blueprint and link it to etherpad | 16:54 |
| inc0 | that will make easier for us to track how useful sessions were in ptg and how much of them turned into code | 16:55 |
| inc0 | questions? | 16:55 |
| inc0 | #topic open discussion | 16:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:55 | |
| inc0 | 4 minutes:) | 16:55 |
| inc0 | anyone? | 16:56 |
| inc0 | or can we end meeting and give our life back?:) | 16:56 |
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| inc0 | right...ok, thank you all for coming and see you in #openstack-kolla! | 16:57 |
| inc0 | #endmeeting kolla | 16:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 1 16:57:10 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-03-01-15.58.html | 16:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-03-01-15.58.txt | 16:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-03-01-15.58.log.html | 16:57 |
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