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| nbloom | Hi :) | 08:00 |
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| ifat_afek | #startmeeting Vitrage | 08:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 11 08:00:30 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Vitrage)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 08:00 |
| elisha_r | hi all | 08:00 |
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| alexey_weyl | Hi | 08:01 |
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| eyalb | hi | 08:02 |
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| ifat_afek | Hi everyone :-) | 08:03 |
| idan_hefetz | hi! | 08:03 |
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| elisha_r | hi again :) | 08:03 |
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| ifat_afek | Today’s agenda: | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | •Status and Updates | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | •PTG | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | •Boston CFP | 08:04 |
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| ifat_afek | #topic Status and Updates | 08:04 |
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| ifat_afek | Reminder: Ocata development is about to end this month. The feature freeze is on January 27. Please try to finish your open blueprints by then. | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | My updates: I hope today or tomorrow to start writing Doctor SB API blueprint, in order for Vitrage to support the Doctor Inspector requirements | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/vitrage/+spec/support-inspector-sb-api | 08:05 |
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| ifat_afek | Who else wants to update? | 08:05 |
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| alexey_weyl | I will update | 08:06 |
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| alexey_weyl | I have done refactoring in the transformers so it will be easier to create the neighbors | 08:07 |
| alexey_weyl | In addition an interaction with Aodh team has started about the change that we want to push. | 08:07 |
| alexey_weyl | hopefully now everything will go more smoothly | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | Let’s hope so. This integration is very important | 08:08 |
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| eyalb | Still working on the collectd I pushed all the code | 08:09 |
| eyalb | need someone to look at the blue print and approve it | 08:09 |
| ifat_afek | I did :-) but you need some else as well | 08:10 |
| yujunz | Pushed an update on static datasource. Amending for Alexey's comments. | 08:10 |
| ifat_afek | yujunz: I reviewed your change and it looks ok. Will approve after Alexey does | 08:11 |
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| ifat_afek | (after you fix what he asked) | 08:12 |
| danoffek | hi guys | 08:12 |
| yujunz | Of course ifat_afek | 08:13 |
| danoffek | hi . I finished (better late than never) the Vitrage UI design. I'll upload it as a blueprint today, please review. Thanks. | 08:14 |
| danoffek | Vitrage ID | 08:14 |
| danoffek | (oops) | 08:14 |
| danoffek | Also a few fixes mock data in this design. | 08:14 |
| ifat_afek | Finish the UI could be better :D | 08:14 |
| danoffek | maybe tomorrow ;) | 08:14 |
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| ifat_afek | Any other updates, anyone? | 08:15 |
| usman | Hi Everyone | 08:15 |
| ifat_afek | usman: Hi! | 08:16 |
| alexey_weyl | hi | 08:16 |
| eyalb | \o/ | 08:16 |
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| ifat_afek | Ok, moving on | 08:16 |
| nbloom | Hi, not much but I went through some old commits for review and approved some. I need someone to approve this commit: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392491/ | 08:17 |
| nbloom | thanks | 08:17 |
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| ifat_afek | This is great, thanks. We had too much of those commits | 08:18 |
| ifat_afek | #topic PTG | 08:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG (Meeting topic: Vitrage)" | 08:18 | |
| ifat_afek | We’ve already discussed the PTG (Project Team Gathering). It will happen in Atlanta in February, and the Vitrage team will not participate | 08:18 |
| ifat_afek | Initially we were not invited, as we are still defined as “single vendor” (hopefully it will be changed in the coming months). Later I was able to ask to include us anyway, but didn’t see a need to do so. | 08:19 |
| ifat_afek | As Vitrage team grows, we started thinking of an alternative for planning Pike release - maybe hold a 2-days meeting in Israel. Any comments, ideas, preferred dates? | 08:19 |
| yujunz | +1 for meeting in Israel :-) | 08:20 |
| ifat_afek | yujunz: Great | 08:20 |
| yujunz | We can pick a time in Feb or March | 08:21 |
| ifat_afek | Let’s think of the timing and content. We can plan it later in the ML | 08:21 |
| ifat_afek | Sounds good | 08:21 |
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| alexey_weyl | +1 | 08:22 |
| ifat_afek | I guess by then we will come up with a list of issues we would like to handle in Pike, and do a low level desgin | 08:22 |
| yujunz | Sounds good | 08:22 |
| ifat_afek | Good. Moving on | 08:23 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Boston CFP | 08:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Boston CFP (Meeting topic: Vitrage)" | 08:23 | |
| ifat_afek | Boston CFP is now open. Let’s start thinking about ideas for sessions. We can submit proposals until February 6th. | 08:23 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/call-for-presentations/ | 08:23 |
| ifat_afek | I created an etherpad for session proposals: | 08:24 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vitrage-boston-session-proposals | 08:24 |
| ifat_afek | I already listed down one proposal: a use case that involves Heat, Aodh and Vitrage. I emailed Telemetry PTL (Julien Danjou) and Heat PTL (Rabi Mishra) about my idea, and got an initial positive feedback. Still need to figure out the details, and see if they want to invest the time in this use case. | 08:24 |
| ifat_afek | The use case: | 08:24 |
| ifat_afek | Vitrage will raise a “noisy neighbors” alarm in Aodh, and Heat will perform auto-scaling based on this alarm. “noisy neighbors” is a case where few vms are over-loaded, and this causes decreased performance of other vms on the same host, even if their own CPU is low. | 08:25 |
| ifat_afek | See more details in the etherpad. | 08:25 |
| ifat_afek | And of course feel free to add more ideas | 08:25 |
| yujunz | I'm preparing one about new performance testing project in OpenStack | 08:25 |
| yujunz | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MitmStack | 08:25 |
| ifat_afek | This is a great idea | 08:26 |
| yujunz | I'll come back with more details and to see if it is possible to have it together with vitrage | 08:26 |
| yujunz | The main purpose is for system level test of vitrage with look-real fake openstack | 08:27 |
| yujunz | To simulate a large scale openstack cluster with limited hardware | 08:27 |
| ifat_afek | I think it can help us a lot | 08:27 |
| yujunz | The project has just been created in OpenStack and currently it is just me :-) | 08:28 |
| ifat_afek | And it’s also an interesting topic for a session. I can only assume other projects will be interested as well | 08:28 |
| yujunz | If any root causer is interested, it is welcome to join as initial core member | 08:28 |
| yujunz | Tha | 08:29 |
| yujunz | t's it | 08:29 |
| alexey_weyl | Sounds great Yujun! | 08:29 |
| alexey_weyl | Do you have a github project already? | 08:30 |
| yujunz | No, just a design proposal. No code yet :-( | 08:30 |
| yujunz | I'll try to prepare a simplist PoC before the deadline of CFP | 08:30 |
| alexey_weyl | I am sure that you will have something running real soon | 08:31 |
| alexey_weyl | If you need any help with that, you are more then welcome to ask | 08:31 |
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| ifat_afek | There’s a lot of time until Boston, so if you know more or less what you want to do, then I guess we can submit a proposal even if there is no code | 08:31 |
| yujunz | Thanks. It is mainly an extension of mitmproxy | 08:31 |
| ifat_afek | What is mitmproxy? | 08:32 |
| yujunz | #link https://mitmproxy.org/ | 08:32 |
| ifat_afek | Thanks | 08:32 |
| yujunz | #link http://docs.mitmproxy.org/en/stable/scripting/overview.html | 08:33 |
| yujunz | It supports scripting for packet manipulation | 08:33 |
| yujunz | And replay | 08:33 |
| yujunz | #link http://docs.mitmproxy.org/en/stable/features/serverreplay.html | 08:33 |
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| ifat_afek | Looks good | 08:35 |
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| ifat_afek | If anyone thinks of another idea, please add it to the etherpad | 08:36 |
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| ifat_afek | yujunz: Welcome back :-) I said mitmproxy looks good | 08:36 |
| yujunz | Thanks. What else have I missed? | 08:37 |
| ifat_afek | Nothing. I just said we should think of other idea | 08:37 |
| ifat_afek | ideas | 08:37 |
| ifat_afek | for presentations | 08:37 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Open Discussion | 08:38 |
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| ifat_afek | Any other issue you would like to discuss? | 08:38 |
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| ifat_afek | See you next week then | 08:40 |
| danoffek | bye | 08:40 |
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| usman | Bye | 08:40 |
| eyalb | bye | 08:40 |
| nbloom | bye :) | 08:40 |
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| ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 08:40 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 11 08:40:45 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-01-11-08.00.html | 08:40 |
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| alex_xu | #startmeeting nova api | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 11 13:00:08 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_api' | 13:00 |
| alex_xu | who is here today? | 13:00 |
| Kevin_Zheng | o/ | 13:00 |
| gmann | o/ | 13:00 |
| alex_xu | we can directly jump to... | 13:01 |
| alex_xu | #topic open | 13:01 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | ha | 13:01 |
| alex_xu | we didn't have too much topic :) | 13:01 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408571/38 | 13:01 |
| gmann | ohk. | 13:01 |
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| alex_xu | the first patch for server list seems pretty close | 13:02 |
| Kevin_Zheng | I will add more tests to the policy one tomorrow | 13:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | o/ | 13:02 |
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| alex_xu | Kevin_Zheng: thanks | 13:02 |
| gmann | alex_xu: Kevin_Zheng i will review the series tomorrow | 13:02 |
| Kevin_Zheng | Cool | 13:02 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: sdague looking for you take a look at the implement of return 400 for joined-table and internal attribute, which are at line 305 and line 312 | 13:03 |
| alex_xu | gmann: thanks | 13:03 |
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| alex_xu | oops, i mean the line 305 and line 312 of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408571/38/nova/api/openstack/compute/schemas/servers.py | 13:03 |
| alex_xu | and finally we return 400 in the python code https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408571/38/nova/api/openstack/compute/servers.py@225 | 13:04 |
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| gmann | alex_xu: is there any option to explicitly strict it on json schema? i do not remember if it has | 13:04 |
| alex_xu | I have to say, that isn't beautiful... | 13:04 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | We tried some combination | 13:05 |
| Kevin_Zheng | Didn't work :( | 13:05 |
| alex_xu | gmann: due to additionalPropperties=True :( | 13:05 |
| * gmann lot of thing to improve on json schema lib | 13:05 | |
| alex_xu | there is no way | 13:05 |
| gmann | alex_xu: yes | 13:05 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | It will be strict after 2 cycles? | 13:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | Kevin_Zheng: has to be in a microversion right, as it will break users if not | 13:06 |
| alex_xu | probably with Microversion, we can't strict it directly | 13:06 |
| gmann | yea it goes for ever | 13:06 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | Hmm... | 13:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: I see what you mean, you are relaxing anything that starts with "_" and all the joined stuff | 13:07 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: yes | 13:07 |
| sdague | alex_xu: ok, I can look for sure | 13:07 |
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| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: we use regex for "_" due to I don't want to list all the internal attributes for a python object, and that will be a unstable list | 13:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: would a decorator that runs before the schema validation that checks for known bad things be easier here? | 13:08 |
| alex_xu | sdague: thanks | 13:08 |
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| gmann | we can do some customize formattor but that makes more ugly than python code one | 13:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | well, I really mean just a @reject_known_bad_filers some something like that | 13:09 |
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| cdent | o/ sorry I'm late | 13:09 |
| gmann | johnthetubaguy: yea that may be better | 13:09 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: yea, it should works. and that separate the ugly thing out of schema. | 13:11 |
| alex_xu | reject_known_bad_filters probably is the only special thing | 13:11 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I quite like it being explicit like that | 13:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | once the schema rejects it, its clear we don't need that decorator any more, etc | 13:12 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: another way is we get rid of getatter on the db model obj, but that means we still have some parameters controlled by db layer code | 13:12 |
| alex_xu | s/getatter/getattr/ | 13:12 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: the schema only reject it on specific microversion | 13:13 |
| gmann | and decorator can be versioned when schema start rejecting | 13:13 |
| alex_xu | so whether that decorator can work with microversion? | 13:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: ack, I am thinking about the future there | 13:13 |
| alex_xu | gmann: yea, probably | 13:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | the decorator has the request object, so it should be OK | 13:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | don't need that to start with of course | 13:14 |
| alex_xu | yea | 13:14 |
| alex_xu | I guess it is worth a try | 13:15 |
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| johnthetubaguy | its tempting to do as a patch before the schema one, if that helps not upset the chain of patches | 13:15 |
| alex_xu | ++ | 13:15 |
| alex_xu | Kevin_Zheng: would you like to try that idea? | 13:16 |
| Kevin_Zheng | yeah | 13:16 |
| alex_xu | Kevin_Zheng: thanks | 13:16 |
| Kevin_Zheng | np | 13:16 |
| alex_xu | for sort key we have same thing | 13:16 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/415142/15/nova/api/validation/parameter_types.py@441 | 13:16 |
| Kevin_Zheng | would like to learn ：） | 13:16 |
| alex_xu | but i think we needn't another decorator. | 13:17 |
| alex_xu | Kevin_Zheng: :) | 13:17 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I guess sort is different, we are not converting 500 errors into 400 | 13:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | like we are with those others, mostly | 13:18 |
| alex_xu | yea | 13:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | I totally need to spend some quality time with that patch series, just bogged down in some neutronv2 coding right now | 13:18 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: yea, I see, I work with Kevin_Zheng, and try to shape the patch to a good shape before catch you and sdague | 13:19 |
| alex_xu | another find we return 500 for pattern matching | 13:19 |
| alex_xu | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1653899 | 13:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1653899 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "The 500 returns for invalid regex in the pattern match query parameters" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Zhenyu Zheng (zhengzhenyu) | 13:20 |
| gmann | for sort key also we will return 400 for joined table and _* right? | 13:20 |
| alex_xu | probably we just follow a patch and change the pattern matching filters to use "format: regex" | 13:20 |
| alex_xu | gmann: yes, but for now, it already return 400 | 13:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: yeah | 13:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, sort is already filtered, to some extent | 13:21 |
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| johnthetubaguy | hmm... maybe I don't like us having a silent failure there, 400 would be more consistent, although it is a breaking change... ah, bummer | 13:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | I need to think on that more | 13:22 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: you mean for sort key? | 13:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | filter bits are more important to get right though, the sort one seems safer somehow | 13:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 13:22 |
| alex_xu | yeah, silent failure is for safe | 13:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | its only admins that would have a slightly smaller list of allowed sorts I guess | 13:23 |
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| alex_xu | yes, I remember that | 13:23 |
| alex_xu | probably just no host and node for non-admin | 13:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, lets leave that for now, but its almost tempting not to change sort from what we have today, given its impact seems to be minimal and only for admins | 13:24 |
| alex_xu | yeah | 13:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | but we are doing this the correct way around, anyways, focusing on the filters first | 13:25 |
| Kevin_Zheng | ok | 13:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | its been a massive hole for a while | 13:25 |
| alex_xu | yeah | 13:26 |
| alex_xu | I guess that's all for server list, hope I didn't miss anything more | 13:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | feels like we are getting closer | 13:27 |
| alex_xu | \o/ | 13:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | but I am tempted to checkin before the meeting next week | 13:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | just keep things moving | 13:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | maybe lets try catch each other on Friday to see where we are, first thing my morning should be OK ish time for you all I guess? | 13:28 |
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| johnthetubaguy | thinking 9am UTC or something like that? | 13:28 |
| alex_xu | yea, as remember your morning is our 5pm probably. | 13:29 |
| Kevin_Zheng | yah | 13:29 |
| gmann | yea, 6 pm for me | 13:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | OK, 6pm is a bit rough, but its better than now | 13:30 |
| gmann | yea :) | 13:30 |
| alex_xu | :) | 13:30 |
| alex_xu | Any more open for today? | 13:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am good | 13:31 |
| gmann | me too | 13:31 |
| Kevin_Zheng | me too | 13:31 |
| alex_xu | ok, thanks all, let us back to work | 13:32 |
| alex_xu | #endmeeting | 13:32 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 11 13:32:16 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-01-11-13.00.html | 13:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-01-11-13.00.txt | 13:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-01-11-13.00.log.html | 13:32 |
| gmann | Thanks | 13:32 |
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| sballe_ | o/ | 13:59 |
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| acabot | #startmeeting watcher | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 11 14:00:25 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is acabot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'watcher' | 14:00 |
| acabot | o/ | 14:00 |
| sballe_ | o/ | 14:00 |
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| vincentfrancoise | o/ | 14:00 |
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| acabot | agenda for today #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#01.2F11.2F2016 | 14:01 |
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| dtardivel | hi | 14:01 |
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| acabot | sballe_ : anyone else from intel ? | 14:02 |
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| sballe_ | I was hoping so. chrispencer should be here | 14:02 |
| acabot | courtesy ping hvprash hvprash_ | 14:02 |
| sballe_ | Pru is ion vacation | 14:02 |
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| sballe_ | Thijs should be here too | 14:03 |
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| acabot | Yumeng__ just joined | 14:03 |
| acabot | ok lets start, I will go fast to keep time for open discussions | 14:03 |
| acabot | #topic Announcements | 14:04 |
| Yumeng__ | Hi | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 14:04 | |
| acabot | #info a new video demo of Watcher is available on YouTube | 14:04 |
| acabot | #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJttohkf0sM | 14:04 |
| acabot | feel free to share it worldwide :-) | 14:04 |
| sballe_ | +2 | 14:04 |
| acabot | #info Call for presentations for Boston summit is now open (deadline is February 6th) | 14:04 |
| acabot | thx sballe_ for reminding me the deadline :-) | 14:05 |
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| sballe_ | yeah it is coming up soon | 14:05 |
| acabot | #info an etherpad to submit talks is now open #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Watcher_abstracts_boston2017 | 14:05 |
| acabot | thx sballe_ for your proposition | 14:05 |
| acabot | I copy pasted the previous description from Barcelona as a second talk | 14:06 |
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| acabot | the category "project updates" doesn't exist anymore | 14:06 |
| sballe_ | I am interested in being on the "Watcher, the Infrastructure Optimization service for OpenStack: Plans for the P&Q-releases" talk but I am okay with giving somebody else a chance | 14:06 |
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| acabot | so I would suggest to focus on strategies or business cases for Boston | 14:06 |
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| sballe_ | make sense | 14:07 |
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| acabot | do you know if Ananth would be interested in submitting a talk for fingreprinting ? | 14:07 |
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| sballe_ | I am not sure but can ask. | 14:08 |
| acabot | ok | 14:08 |
| acabot | #info Pike PTLs self nomination will start January 23rd and Watcher needs to find a new PTL | 14:08 |
| acabot | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-December/109019.html | 14:08 |
| acabot | #topic Review Action Items | 14:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 14:08 | |
| acabot | a lot of specs are open right now and we need to merge them asap | 14:09 |
| acabot | Add improvements to the planner and workflow mechanisms needs to be merged soon as code is already available | 14:09 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385871/16 | 14:09 |
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| vincentfrancoise | acabot: waiting for alexchadin to come back on this one | 14:09 |
| acabot | we are waiting for alexchadin to come back from holidays... | 14:09 |
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| acabot | #action alexchadin add a new PS for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385871/ | 14:10 |
| acabot | Add improvements to Applier to make it parallel should be reviewed and merged as its dependant from previous spec | 14:10 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/413079/2 | 14:11 |
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| acabot | #action alexchadin add a new PS for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/413079/ so that we can merge it | 14:11 |
| acabot | Define grammar for workload characterization needs a new PS answering previous comments | 14:11 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377100/19 | 14:11 |
| sballe_ | I have been trying to sync-up with hvprash | 14:11 |
| acabot | #action hvprash add a new PS answering comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377100/19 | 14:11 |
| acabot | sballe_ : we are waiting for specs improvements for a month now | 14:12 |
| sballe_ | yeah I know lol | 14:12 |
| acabot | Audit tag in VM Metadata still has TODOs | 14:12 |
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| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391374/ | 14:13 |
| acabot | #action hvprash complete TODOs in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391374/ | 14:13 |
| acabot | Support Description For Dynamic Action needs a new PS | 14:13 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401111/ | 14:13 |
| acabot | #action hanrong submit a new PS for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401111/ | 14:13 |
| acabot | Noisy Neighbor Strategy has still work in progress | 14:14 |
| sballe_ | somebody asked for details on the algorithm so that is what I am working on. | 14:14 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398162/ | 14:14 |
| acabot | sballe_ : could you complete WIP on this spec ? | 14:14 |
| sballe_ | I'll update the spec with a high level view of the algorithm | 14:14 |
| acabot | ok | 14:14 |
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| acabot | #action sballe_ complete https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398162/ with a high level view of the algorithm | 14:14 |
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| acabot | cluster energy saving needs to be resubmitted as launchpad does not allow to change the superseded state | 14:15 |
| acabot | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/cluster-energy-saving | 14:15 |
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| acabot | thix BP has moved from hanrong to jinquan but it needs to be replaced as I cant remove the superseded state | 14:15 |
| acabot | #action jinquan create a new BP replacing https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/cluster-energy-saving | 14:16 |
| acabot | Watcher | 14:16 |
| acabot | Add auto_trigger support to watcher needs a gate fix to be merged | 14:16 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403718/ | 14:16 |
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| vincentfrancoise | acabot: actually this probably is not only for this PS | 14:16 |
| vincentfrancoise | acabot: all multinode jobs are currently failing for some reason | 14:17 |
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| acabot | vincentfrancoise : right, who can have a look at the multinode gate ? | 14:17 |
| vincentfrancoise | acabot: seems like only 1 node is detected instead of 2, hence the failure | 14:17 |
| vincentfrancoise | acabot: I probably will | 14:17 |
| acabot | vincentfrancoise : ok thx | 14:18 |
| acabot | #action vincentfrancoise fix gate issue on multinode gate | 14:18 |
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| acabot | dtardivel : can you do a final review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403718/ ? | 14:19 |
| dtardivel | +& | 14:19 |
| dtardivel | +1 | 14:19 |
| acabot | #action dtardivel review and merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403718/ | 14:19 |
| acabot | New default planner needs a gate fix to be merged | 14:19 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406991/ | 14:19 |
| acabot | in fact it is the same gate issue | 14:20 |
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| acabot | this patch needs a sync with alexchadin | 14:20 |
| acabot | #action alexchadin sync with the team for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406991/ | 14:20 |
| alexchadin | Hello | 14:20 |
| acabot | alexchadin : hello !!! | 14:20 |
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| acabot | we were waiting for you ! | 14:21 |
| alexchadin | I will be available tomorrow, were on holiday | 14:21 |
| alexchadin | Sorrt | 14:21 |
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| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: happy new year :) | 14:21 |
| alexchadin | Happy new year, guys! | 14:21 |
| acabot | alexchadin : no problem and happy new year ! | 14:21 |
| dtardivel | alexchadin: Bonne Année 2017 :) | 14:22 |
| alexchadin | Thank you! | 14:22 |
| acabot | vincentfrancoise suggested some code here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/415505/ | 14:22 |
| alexchadin | С новым годом :) | 14:22 |
| alexchadin | I saw | 14:22 |
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| alexchadin | I read your patches | 14:22 |
| acabot | lets discuss this on openstack-watcher | 14:22 |
| alexchadin | Ok ok | 14:23 |
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| acabot | Added Monasca Helper needs a new PS | 14:23 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348891/ | 14:23 |
| acabot | #action vincentfrancoise add a new PS for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348891/ | 14:23 |
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| acabot | Multi datasource support for Basic Consolidation needs a new PS and reviews | 14:24 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/414617/ | 14:24 |
| alexchadin | I am in airport, let's meet tomorrow! | 14:24 |
| alexchadin | Bye:) | 14:24 |
| acabot | #action vincentfrancoise add a new PS for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/414617/ | 14:24 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: bye :) | 14:24 |
| acabot | alexchadin : ok bye | 14:24 |
| acabot | who wants to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/414617/ ? | 14:24 |
| acabot | check the state of action plan needs a new PS | 14:25 |
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| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391383/ | 14:25 |
| acabot | #action licanwei submit a new PS answering comments for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391383/ | 14:25 |
| sballe_ | I can review one or two this week | 14:25 |
| acabot | sballe_ : ok | 14:25 |
| acabot | #action sballe_ review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348891/ & https://review.openstack.org/#/c/414617/ | 14:26 |
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| acabot | dynamic action description needs a status | 14:26 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/watcher+branch:master+topic:bp/dynamic-action-description | 14:26 |
| acabot | #action hanrong provide status on https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/watcher+branch:master+topic:bp/dynamic-action-description | 14:26 |
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| acabot | Watcher CLI | 14:27 |
| acabot | Add functional tests to watcherclient needs final reviews | 14:27 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389181/ | 14:27 |
| acabot | will be merged when planner improvements will be merged | 14:28 |
| dtardivel | acabot: yep | 14:28 |
| acabot | there are also minor fixes on watcher-dashboard | 14:28 |
| acabot | #topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion | 14:29 |
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| acabot | #info all unstarted BPs have been moved to ocata-rc1, ocata-3 is due January 23rd | 14:29 |
| acabot | #link https://launchpad.net/watcher/+milestone/ocata-3 | 14:29 |
| acabot | I'm concerned about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/dynamic-action-description because we don't know the status | 14:29 |
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| acabot | I'm also concerned by hvprash BPs that I have moved to ocata-rc1 but dont evolve at all... | 14:30 |
| acabot | ocata-rc1 deadline is January 30th... | 14:31 |
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| acabot | #info non-client libraries (watcher CLI) must be freezed on January 19th | 14:31 |
| acabot | we need to check that we won't need to upgrade the CLI after January 19th | 14:32 |
| acabot | until the end of the cycle | 14:32 |
| acabot | as requested by the release team, we shouldn't work on new features after ocata-3 | 14:33 |
| vincentfrancoise | acabot: +1 | 14:33 |
| dtardivel | acabot: ok | 14:33 |
| acabot | sballe_ : I moved your new strategy to ocata-rc1, is the implementation already done on your side ? | 14:33 |
| sballe_ | not yet but we are close | 14:34 |
| sballe_ | we ran into some issue with system access but | 14:34 |
| sballe_ | hopefully that will be fixed. | 14:34 |
| acabot | ok | 14:34 |
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| acabot | rc-1 is January 30th, are you confortable with this ? | 14:35 |
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| sballe_ | if we get the systems back up today then yes | 14:35 |
| acabot | ok | 14:35 |
| acabot | #topic Open discussions | 14:35 |
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| acabot | graph model | 14:36 |
| sballe_ | I would like to talk about hte IRC meeting. 4am is really early for me | 14:36 |
| acabot | sballe_ : ok what would be the best option for you ? | 14:36 |
| sballe_ | can we move the second meeting to a better time for the US. chrisspencer has no chance to attend since it is at 1am | 14:37 |
| acabot | sballe_ : I mean good time for you but also for possible intel contributors in Chian | 14:37 |
| sballe_ | we no longer have people in china contributing from Intel | 14:37 |
| sballe_ | both Chris and Pru are US timezone | 14:37 |
| acabot | a suitable time for Chris would be 7 hours later then it will be late for chinese | 14:37 |
| sballe_ | could we just do the same time every weel for hte meeting? like it used to be? | 14:38 |
| acabot | sballe_ : ok but we have good contributions from hanrong, yumeng, licanwei, hanrong, hidekazu, all at asian time | 14:38 |
| sballe_ | ok totally fair. | 14:39 |
| acabot | I just want to avoid having them "off meetings"... | 14:39 |
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| acabot | what time would be better for you sballe_ ? 3 hours later ? | 14:39 |
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| acabot | 11.00 UTC | 14:40 |
| acabot | if chris can be there every 2 weeks its probably fine | 14:40 |
| acabot | as chinese do | 14:40 |
| chrisspencer | acabot: ack. That is what I am currently doing. | 14:41 |
| sballe_ | ok yes that would work for me and hopefully Pru too | 14:41 |
| acabot | sballe_ : I can look for a new slot at 11 UTC on odd weeks | 14:41 |
| sballe_ | Pru is in central time zone so only one hour behind me | 14:41 |
| acabot | I know that ttx did a bit of clean-up recently on meetings agenda | 14:42 |
| sballe_ | even 2 hours would work | 14:42 |
| acabot | 10.00 UTC would be easier for us as well | 14:43 |
| acabot | #action acabot look for a new meeting slot on odd weeks at 10.00 or 11.00 UTC | 14:43 |
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| acabot | next graph model | 14:43 |
| acabot | sballe_ : vincentfrancoise looked in more detail in kevin contributions | 14:44 |
| acabot | sballe_ : and it appears that kevin handle network and storage in the data model | 14:44 |
| acabot | things that we dont have yet in watcher | 14:44 |
| acabot | as we deal only with compute resources | 14:45 |
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| acabot | we have 2 possible options now | 14:45 |
| sballe_ | ok. I was hoping thijs would behere | 14:45 |
| acabot | - we remove/comment all code related to storage and network because we dont know how to maintain it | 14:46 |
| acabot | - we keep the code but we need to create many new BPs to handle sync with Neutron & Cinder | 14:47 |
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| acabot | hello jwcroppe :-) | 14:47 |
| sballe_ | acabot: Let me talk to kevin and thijs and we will sync-up with vincentfrancoise | 14:47 |
| vincentfrancoise | acabot: it's not that we don't know per se, it's more that it requires us to maintain the consistency of these data over time by consuming neutron and cinder notifications | 14:47 |
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| acabot | vincentfrancoise : +1 | 14:48 |
| jwcroppe | acabot: greetings - just trying to catch tail end of the discussion :) | 14:48 |
| acabot | #action sballe_ sync with kevin & thijs about graph model | 14:49 |
| vincentfrancoise | sballe_: because I reckon that a graph data model makes more sense, I am working to integrate what you guys did | 14:49 |
| sballe_ | vincentfrancoise: great! | 14:49 |
| sballe_ | vincentfrancoise: we'll setup sometime to go over this wth you | 14:49 |
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| acabot | s a: | 14:49 |
| acabot | sballe_ : there is a poc here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/418434/ | 14:50 |
| vincentfrancoise | sballe_: but integrating cinder and neutron data will have to be handled at a later notice so we do things right | 14:50 |
| acabot | if you can share it with kevin and thjis | 14:50 |
| sballe_ | will do | 14:50 |
| acabot | Sync with fingerprinting work from Intel presented at Barcelona summit ? | 14:50 |
| vincentfrancoise | I discussed this matter with them already | 14:50 |
| vincentfrancoise | but please do share the code I pushed with them :) | 14:51 |
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| acabot | sballe_ : do you if Ananth still plan to deliver a watcher strategy ? | 14:51 |
| sballe_ | I just sent him email. | 14:52 |
| acabot | I think you had discussion about it in Barcelona (and vincentfrancoise reminds me that) | 14:52 |
| vincentfrancoise | acabot: +1 | 14:52 |
| acabot | #action sync with Ananth about delivering a watcher strategy based on fingerprinting | 14:52 |
| acabot | #action sballe_ sync with Ananth about delivering a watcher strategy based on fingerprinting | 14:53 |
| acabot | any other topic to discuss ? | 14:53 |
| vincentfrancoise | I remember that the strategy was doable for ocata bu the dashboard was the bit he didn't if it could be integrated for this cycle | 14:53 |
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| vincentfrancoise | sballe_: even if it's not fully finished on his side, throwing his code over the fence can help us see/help with what's left ;) | 14:54 |
| jwcroppe | acabot: is there a list of PTG attendees somewhere that's being maintained? | 14:54 |
| sballe_ | vincentfrancoise: agreed | 14:55 |
| acabot | jwcroppe : we plan to move the meeting on odd weeks 2/3 hours later, would it be good for you ? | 14:55 |
| jwcroppe | acabot: yes, that would | 14:55 |
| acabot | jwcroppe : I will open the etherpad for PTG by next meeting | 14:55 |
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| acabot | jwcroppe : we should be at least 8 people | 14:55 |
| jwcroppe | acabot: ok, cool. | 14:56 |
| acabot | thank you guys | 14:56 |
| acabot | have a good day/night | 14:56 |
| dtardivel | bye | 14:57 |
| vincentfrancoise | bye | 14:57 |
| acabot | #endmeeting | 14:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 11 14:57:18 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-01-11-14.00.html | 14:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-01-11-14.00.txt | 14:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-01-11-14.00.log.html | 14:57 |
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| serverascode | #startmeeting operators_telco_nfv | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 11 15:00:17 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is serverascode. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: operators_telco_nfv)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'operators_telco_nfv' | 15:00 |
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| serverascode | happy 2017 :) | 15:00 |
| ad_rien_ | o/ | 15:00 |
| PerfectChaos | Happy new year~ | 15:00 |
| ad_rien_ | the same | 15:00 |
| jamemcc | Hello- Same to you Curtis | 15:00 |
| jamemcc | Hi All | 15:01 |
| serverascode | maybe like one more minute to see who else arrives | 15:01 |
| serverascode | #topic roll call | 15:02 |
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| serverascode | anyone have an changes/additions to the agenda? feel free to go ahead and add/change | 15:03 |
| serverascode | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-telco-nfv-meeting-agenda | 15:03 |
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| serverascode | And just a general information point: if you would like emails before meetins, add it under the "contact emails" section or join the openstack ops list and watch for [telecom-nfv] as the email tag | 15:04 |
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| GeraldK | o/ | 15:04 |
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| serverascode | #link http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators | 15:04 |
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| serverascode | hi GeraldK :) | 15:05 |
| serverascode | #topic Performance Team | 15:05 |
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| serverascode | Just an FYI, Dina Belova contacted me. Seems the perf team is doing some work in the NFV area. Not too sure what is happening there though. | 15:05 |
| serverascode | I will just take an action to contact her again to see what is up. | 15:05 |
| serverascode | #action serverascode check with performance team on NFV activities | 15:05 |
| serverascode | anyone have any thoughts/questions around that? | 15:06 |
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| serverascode | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Performance_Team | 15:06 |
| jamemcc | Seems related to what I think we have been talking about | 15:07 |
| PerfectChaos | Other then that we should avoid duplicating effort between teams/groups | 15:07 |
| PerfectChaos | *than | 15:07 |
| GeraldK | there are also activities on performance in OPNFV | 15:07 |
| GeraldK | #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/qtip/Platform+Performance+Benchmarking | 15:07 |
| GeraldK | #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/storperf/Storperf | 15:07 |
| serverascode | good point, I'll remind her of OPNFV's work just in case she isn't aware | 15:08 |
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| GeraldK | serverascode: thanks | 15:08 |
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| serverascode | ok, just fyi, it wasn't much of a converstation, she just asked if we had done any work around perf yet, and I said not yet but that we should work together and she went off to check on some other resources/groups | 15:09 |
| serverascode | next topic... | 15:10 |
| jamemcc | It does seem to lead to thuis team and really you right now Curtis as sort of a clearinghouse for related activities | 15:10 |
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| shintaro | hi | 15:10 |
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| serverascode | hi shintaro :) | 15:10 |
| jamemcc | Hi | 15:10 |
| shintaro | sorry im late | 15:10 |
| * PerfectChaos waves | 15:11 | |
| serverascode | jamemcc: seems a bit like it, which I think is good b/c there is a lot going on around NFV but it's a bit splintered | 15:11 |
| shintaro | Im on mobile | 15:11 |
| serverascode | #topic Election of co-chairs | 15:11 |
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| serverascode | I attended the meeting of the public cloud working group, and they though that it was important to elect at least two co-chairs | 15:12 |
| serverascode | it seemed like a good idea, is that something we should be looking into? | 15:12 |
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| shintaro | +1 | 15:12 |
| serverascode | they are a new group and are trying to do things right | 15:13 |
| serverascode | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PublicCloudWorkingGroup | 15:13 |
| jamemcc | I think it might be more necessary if there was a lot of activity - basically split up the work and give more opportunity for people to find someone to contact, but | 15:13 |
| jamemcc | from my perspective I dont' see that here in this team yet. | 15:13 |
| serverascode | ok, cool, so something to think about in the future | 15:14 |
| serverascode | anyone else have an opinion on it? | 15:14 |
| PerfectChaos | I'm basically indifferent, to be honest | 15:14 |
| GeraldK | similar opinion like jamemcc | 15:14 |
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| ad_rien_ | +1 | 15:14 |
| PerfectChaos | We seem to be doing okay as is | 15:14 |
| PerfectChaos | Ticking along a bit slowly, maybe | 15:14 |
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| serverascode | ok so a couple +1s, and a couple not quite busy enough comments, perhaps we table to a later date | 15:15 |
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| jamemcc | agreed | 15:15 |
| shintaro | itsgoodto have cochair tomove rhingas more | 15:15 |
| ad_rien_ | sorry serverascode. My point of view is similar to jamemcc, not sure my +1 was clear | 15:16 |
| serverascode | ah, ok | 15:16 |
| shintaro | sorry I'm on mobile : ( | 15:16 |
| serverascode | no worries it's great to have you shintaro | 15:16 |
| PerfectChaos | Honestly I think the main thing that would get us moving more quickly right now is weekly meetings as opposed to bi-weekly | 15:16 |
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| serverascode | PerfectChaos Ok, I will add that to the next meeting agenda | 15:17 |
| ad_rien_ | maybe we should define actions | 15:17 |
| ad_rien_ | ;) | 15:17 |
| ad_rien_ | first | 15:17 |
| ad_rien_ | meetings for meetings is not so valuable, isn't it ;) | 15:17 |
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| PerfectChaos | Well, some actions and discussion does tend to come out of each meeting | 15:18 |
| serverascode | what actions were you thinking ad_rien_? | 15:18 |
| GeraldK | how can we attract more people to the team? today, it was even promoted on the OPNFV ML still again not so many participants | 15:18 |
| ad_rien_ | unless i am mistaken for the moment we did not define a clear roadmap | 15:18 |
| ad_rien_ | I know it is hard | 15:19 |
| ad_rien_ | we have the same trouble in the Massively distributed/Fog/Edge WG | 15:19 |
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| serverascode | (GeraldK I didn't send myself, but Uli forwarded I believe, but it might not have been obvious) | 15:19 |
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| serverascode | ad_rien_ a clear roadmap for the group? or for this particular meeting? | 15:20 |
| ad_rien_ | I mean a roadmap : milestones/actions | 15:20 |
| ad_rien_ | for the group , for this cycle | 15:21 |
| ad_rien_ | once again don't get me wrong I know it is a tedious task | 15:21 |
| serverascode | ok, I think I'm starting to understand what you mean | 15:21 |
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| serverascode | right now I think we basically agreed on a couple of potential mid term projects | 15:21 |
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| ad_rien_ | With the performance WG for instance during the newton cycle we decided to perform scalability experiments | 15:22 |
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| serverascode | 1) defining a generic nfv platform and 2) working on upgrades | 15:22 |
| ad_rien_ | and we suceed to make a shared presentation in Barcelona | 15:22 |
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| serverascode | right, that is for sure what we would like to do | 15:22 |
| ad_rien_ | for this cycle we are trying to go on | 15:22 |
| ad_rien_ | it is complicated as everyone has its own interest | 15:22 |
| ad_rien_ | but the purpose of the group is to find a shared interest | 15:23 |
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| ad_rien_ | so I would be glad to dive into 1) and 2) | 15:23 |
| ad_rien_ | ASAP | 15:23 |
| ad_rien_ | ;) | 15:23 |
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| serverascode | yeah, they might not be perfect for everyone, but it's a start and I think we will figure more out as we actually start writing things down | 15:24 |
| serverascode | in terms of the two projects mentioned above | 15:24 |
| ad_rien_ | ok sounds good | 15:24 |
| serverascode | all right, lets jump to the next topic | 15:25 |
| serverascode | #topic Project Repository | 15:25 |
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| serverascode | I submitted a request for a git repo in the openstack system | 15:25 |
| GeraldK | cool | 15:25 |
| serverascode | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/417522/ | 15:25 |
| serverascode | which after a bit of whining on my part was approved | 15:25 |
| serverascode | :) | 15:26 |
| serverascode | so thanks to the openstack-infra team | 15:26 |
| PerfectChaos | Great. | 15:26 |
| serverascode | my thoughts were that this would be where we could start ot put docs around our projects | 15:26 |
| serverascode | like the arch-wg team does | 15:26 |
| serverascode | #link https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/arch-wg/ | 15:27 |
| serverascode | so use the standard openstack docs layout and the gerrit review system | 15:27 |
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| serverascode | it will be a bit of a pain for those, like myself, who aren't familiar with the workflow, but not much choice | 15:27 |
| serverascode | sorry if you look at the tree section of that link | 15:28 |
| serverascode | #link https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/arch-wg/tree/ | 15:28 |
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| serverascode | you can see a doc/source section, and they also have a proposals and reports directory | 15:28 |
| GeraldK | serverascode: we can still do discussions via Etherpad and then submit to gerrit once we reached a certain stable state | 15:28 |
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| serverascode | GeraldK good call | 15:28 |
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| serverascode | ps here is the repo: | 15:29 |
| serverascode | #link https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/ops-telecom-nfv/ | 15:29 |
| serverascode | anyone have any thoughts/questions about that? basically at least we have a repo | 15:29 |
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| shintaro | I can't reaally catch up but what is this repo for? | 15:30 |
| serverascode | shintaro: basically it will be for whatever we actually produce in this group, probably documentation or reports | 15:30 |
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| shintaro | thanks.docs I agree | 15:31 |
| serverascode | for example the perf team does that | 15:31 |
| serverascode | #link https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/performance-docs/ | 15:31 |
| serverascode | they have the raw results stored, as well as reports on their testing | 15:31 |
| shintaro | understood | 15:32 |
| serverascode | cool, any other thoughts/questions around that or just onto the next topic? | 15:32 |
| ad_rien_ | ok for me | 15:33 |
| serverascode | #topic Boston Summit Space Request | 15:33 |
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| serverascode | So we have to request space at the next summit | 15:33 |
| ad_rien_ | Is the demand not to early ? | 15:33 |
| ad_rien_ | s/to/too | 15:33 |
| serverascode | for the boston space? | 15:34 |
| ad_rien_ | yes | 15:34 |
| shintaro | how about Milano? do we get the slot? | 15:34 |
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| serverascode | ad_rien_ I recieved and email from the foundation and I think they want the request in by Feb 6, so yeah we are a bit early | 15:35 |
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| ad_rien_ | ok | 15:35 |
| serverascode | I just don't want to forget and then not have space | 15:35 |
| PerfectChaos | Is there anything in particular we have to do to get the space? | 15:36 |
| serverascode | we have to submitt a request through the same method as submitting a talk | 15:36 |
| serverascode | #llink https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/call-for-presentations/ | 15:36 |
| serverascode | here's the text from the email "Please submit all space requests no later than February 6th here: https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/call-for-presentations/, and any questions to speakersupport@openstack.org" | 15:37 |
| ad_rien_ | ok | 15:37 |
| serverascode | does anyone want to take that on? :) | 15:37 |
| serverascode | otherwise I can just make the request | 15:37 |
| serverascode | ok I'll just grab that | 15:38 |
| serverascode | #action serverascode make Boston space request | 15:38 |
| serverascode | are most people going to the boston summit? | 15:38 |
| ad_rien_ | +1 hopefully | 15:38 |
| shintaro | are we submittinga space for the forum? | 15:38 |
| PerfectChaos | No idea yet, but hopefully | 15:39 |
| PerfectChaos | (re: going to Boston) | 15:39 |
| serverascode | shintaro: yeah the boston summit/forum | 15:39 |
| serverascode | I'm not sure about the Milan ops meetup | 15:39 |
| serverascode | what do you think about Milan? | 15:40 |
| shintaro | ok the forum proposal woud be different from the ordinary presentation | 15:40 |
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| serverascode | shintaro: right not a presentation, just a request for a room for a meeting | 15:40 |
| serverascode | but it goes through the same online form | 15:41 |
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| shintaro | ok, great | 15:41 |
| GeraldK | I'll go to the Summit | 15:41 |
| serverascode | FYI to everyone, there is a Milano Operators Meetup in March | 15:41 |
| serverascode | #info Milan Operators Meetup | 15:41 |
| serverascode | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MIL-ops-meetup | 15:41 |
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| serverascode | I'm not sure if there will be any NFV related activites there or not | 15:42 |
| shintaro | I'll, be in both Milan and Boston | 15:42 |
| serverascode | I will also be in Milan and Boston | 15:42 |
| serverascode | shintaro: maybe you and I can chat re Milan later | 15:42 |
| shintaro | : ) | 15:43 |
| serverascode | I will move to the next topic | 15:43 |
| serverascode | #topic Telco related UX persona | 15:43 |
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| serverascode | GeraldK I think you added the item :) | 15:43 |
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| GeraldK | yes. it was on discussion last time. no feedback received | 15:44 |
| GeraldK | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osux-persona-nocengineer | 15:44 |
| GeraldK | currently, for the capacity mgmt user story we decided to move on without a specific Telco persona | 15:44 |
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| GeraldK | still, I belive having Telco related UX personas would help to increase Telco visibility in OpenStack | 15:45 |
| serverascode | and capacity mgmt was in the product orking group? | 15:45 |
| GeraldK | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ProductTeam/User_Stories/Capacity_Management | 15:46 |
| GeraldK | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-user-stories/user-stories/proposed/capacity_management.html | 15:46 |
| serverascode | ok, so you would like some feedback on the telco UX persona? | 15:47 |
| serverascode | I forgot to take a look but I will this week | 15:47 |
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| GeraldK | yes. and potentially we could add few other related persona | 15:47 |
| GeraldK | DaSchab also had some proposals | 15:47 |
| serverascode | ok, do we have links for the other proposals too? | 15:49 |
| GeraldK | he was thinking about an application owner | 15:49 |
| GeraldK | serverascode: so far there are no other proposals | 15:49 |
| serverascode | ah, ok | 15:49 |
| GeraldK | at least no other NFV/Telco related ones | 15:49 |
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| jamemcc | GeraldK: I will provide input there as well - try to gen some propoal or at least comment form AT&T SMEs | 15:50 |
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| jamemcc | Thanks for bringing up | 15:50 |
| serverascode | unfortunately as an opentstack operator I don't know much about the OSS side of telecom but I will take a look for sure | 15:51 |
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| GeraldK | thanks | 15:51 |
| serverascode | (time check 9 minutes left) | 15:51 |
| serverascode | ok for the next topic? | 15:51 |
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| GeraldK | yes | 15:52 |
| serverascode | #topic Attracting more people to the team | 15:52 |
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| serverascode | GeraldK you mentioned sending an email to the OPNFV list before meetings, I can do that | 15:52 |
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| GeraldK | UliK had done it for today | 15:53 |
| serverascode | as long as nobody minds I have no problem emailing that list | 15:53 |
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| GeraldK | i had mentioned that the result was not quite good | 15:53 |
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| serverascode | ah, ok | 15:53 |
| GeraldK | so, maybe no need to do it | 15:54 |
| serverascode | ok | 15:54 |
| GeraldK | what about joining one of the OPNFV meetings, e.g. the TSC meeting on Tuesday to promote this group | 15:54 |
| GeraldK | and mention our goals for this period | 15:54 |
| serverascode | that's a good idea | 15:54 |
| jamemcc | It's very interesting that so many people showed up in the 2 sessions in Barcelona. Need to channel tht enthusiasm and interest. | 15:54 |
| GeraldK | https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/meetings/TSC | 15:55 |
| GeraldK | we can easily ask to get a slot there | 15:55 |
| serverascode | jamemcc I do find it interesting that the summit sessions rooms will be filled :) | 15:55 |
| shintaro | GeraldK in which meeting? | 15:55 |
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| GeraldK | shintaro: in the OPNFV TSC meeting | 15:56 |
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| serverascode | ok so that is tues of every week, I can go to that | 15:57 |
| GeraldK | we have a lot of Telco players in there and more mgmt level than developers. that would be the right audience to promote this group | 15:57 |
| shintaro | ok, to ask for more interest in this group, right? | 15:57 |
| GeraldK | yes | 15:57 |
| shintaro | sounds great | 15:57 |
| jamemcc | Perhaps face to face is better than IRC for most of those who atended in Barcelona. Maybe some model where we accomplish things at each gthering. | 15:57 |
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| serverascode | (2 minutes) | 15:58 |
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| zhubingbing | ;) | 15:58 |
| jamemcc | Surveys - rapid prototyping - sorry I'm letting my mind fly a little far | 15:58 |
| GeraldK | progress would be quite low if we just meet in gatherings | 15:58 |
| serverascode | yeah perhaps that is something we should discuss...exactly what to do with our short time at the summits | 15:58 |
| sp__ | \0 | 15:58 |
| shintaro | can we get these people in OPNFV TSC to come to Milano Ops? | 15:58 |
| GeraldK | let's try | 15:58 |
| ad_rien_ | we have a lot of Telco players in there and more mgmt level than developers. that would be the right audience to promote this group -> | 15:58 |
| ad_rien_ | we are only interested by the design and the development of OpenStack | 15:59 |
| ad_rien_ | to satisfy the NFV use case | 15:59 |
| ad_rien_ | from our side at Inria | 15:59 |
| shintaro | right | 15:59 |
| ad_rien_ | as a research institute we do not operate clouds | 15:59 |
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| serverascode | ok, I'm going to have to stop the meeting, sorry all! | 15:59 |
| ad_rien_ | bye | 15:59 |
| GeraldK | bye | 15:59 |
| serverascode | thanks so much for coming | 15:59 |
| serverascode | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 11 15:59:59 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| PerfectChaos | Bye all | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_telco_nfv/2017/operators_telco_nfv.2017-01-11-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| shintaro | ok thanks | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_telco_nfv/2017/operators_telco_nfv.2017-01-11-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_telco_nfv/2017/operators_telco_nfv.2017-01-11-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
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| inc0 | startmeeting kolla | 16:00 |
| inc0 | #startmeeting kolla | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 11 16:00:59 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is inc0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 16:01 |
| inc0 | #topic rollcall, w00t please! | 16:01 |
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| egonzalez | woot o/ | 16:01 |
| duonghq | O/ | 16:01 |
| inc0 | you know what to do | 16:01 |
| inc0 | ;) | 16:01 |
| Jeffrey4l | o/ | 16:01 |
| mandre | o/ | 16:01 |
| sayantani01 | woot woot! | 16:01 |
| mliima | :) \Ô/ | 16:01 |
| berendt | o/ | 16:01 |
| britthouser | 0/ | 16:01 |
| sdake | o/ | 16:01 |
| rhallisey | hello | 16:01 |
| zhubingbing | o/ | 16:01 |
| zhubingbing | o/ | 16:01 |
| sdake | zhubingbing did a double wave :) | 16:02 |
| zhubingbing | ；） | 16:02 |
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| pbourke | o/ | 16:02 |
| sp__ | o/ | 16:02 |
| SamYaple | 0/ | 16:02 |
| kfox1111 | o/ | 16:02 |
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| qwang | o. | 16:02 |
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| qwang | o/ | 16:03 |
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| inc0 | #topic Announcements | 16:03 |
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| inc0 | 1. We have voting open for new deliverables. Cores, please cast a vote, you should get link on your mailbox | 16:04 |
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| inc0 | any community announements? | 16:04 |
| sdake | just a heads up - if you don't get a voting link please ping inc0 | 16:04 |
| sdake | its important that eveyrone have a vote ;) | 16:04 |
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| inc0 | well, in this case core team;) | 16:05 |
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| wirehead_1 | meow meow | 16:05 |
| sdake | right - just core team will get link :) | 16:05 |
| sdake | core teams :) | 16:05 |
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| portdirect | wirehead_: woof! woof! | 16:05 |
| inc0 | behave you two! | 16:05 |
| inc0 | who are good boys? | 16:05 |
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| inc0 | ok, back to business;) | 16:06 |
| inc0 | I guess no other announcements? | 16:06 |
| sdake | things pretty slow becaue of the holiday shutdown inc0 | 16:06 |
| inc0 | moving on | 16:06 |
| inc0 | yeah, trust me I know | 16:06 |
| sdake | although we are tagging 3.0.2 of kolla | 16:06 |
| inc0 | Oregon is shut down today | 16:06 |
| sdake | or i t has been tagged | 16:06 |
| Jeffrey4l | i have one, newton 3.0.2 is release | 16:06 |
| inc0 | it has been tagged | 16:06 |
| sdake | and also kolla-kubernetes 0.4.0 is tagging soon | 16:06 |
| sdake | hopefully its ready today | 16:06 |
| Jeffrey4l | cool. | 16:06 |
| zhubingbing | cool | 16:06 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l you will have to submit hte erquest pls :) | 16:07 |
| sdake | we can add that to agenda i htink | 16:07 |
| egonzalez | Jeffrey4l: feature freeze for Ocata is in two weeks right? | 16:07 |
| Jeffrey4l | sdake, my pleasure. | 16:07 |
| kfox1111 | need some hub images for 3.0.2 | 16:07 |
| Jeffrey4l | egonzalez, yep. | 16:07 |
| inc0 | ok, actually let's start with this one | 16:07 |
| Jeffrey4l | around Jan 25. | 16:07 |
| kfox1111 | and there's about 3 ps's about to go in to finish 0.4.0. | 16:07 |
| inc0 | #topic releases, 3.0.2 and 0.4.0 | 16:07 |
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| inc0 | my question is | 16:07 |
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| inc0 | does 0.4.0 need to be based on 3.0.2 images? | 16:08 |
| inc0 | or this is just because gate lacking of new images? | 16:08 |
| sdake | inc0 my take is kolla-kubernetes *should* be building images from kolla repo and loading into a docker hub locally in the gate | 16:08 |
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| inc0 | you mean master? | 16:08 |
| sdake | inc0 however that is not the case with the images | 16:09 |
| sdake | I'd like master rather then newton for kolla-kubernetes yes, however, kfox1111 seems to want newton | 16:09 |
| Jeffrey4l | seems kolla-k8s is using 3.0.2 hub.docker.com images | 16:09 |
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| sdake | we should always be gating on master | 16:09 |
| kfox1111 | there are some hacks in kolla-kubernetes to work around bugs in 3.0.1 | 16:09 |
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| kfox1111 | we'd really like to get rid of them for 0.4.0. | 16:09 |
| sdake | inc0 for the short term, we need the 3.0.2 docker hub images | 16:09 |
| sdake | perhaps Jeffrey4l can build them and push them | 16:09 |
| sdake | since coolsvap is out of the office for the moment | 16:10 |
| kfox1111 | Jeffrey4l said he didn't have the bandwidth. | 16:10 |
| sdake | ok | 16:10 |
| Jeffrey4l | sdake, actually no. ( have a bad net in China ) | 16:10 |
| kfox1111 | portdirect does but doesn't have a machine available. | 16:10 |
| sdake | kfox1111 i'll push them today then | 16:10 |
| kfox1111 | k. thanks. | 16:10 |
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| Jeffrey4l | portdirect, promise to push them today. | 16:10 |
| sdake | but can't make a long term commitment to pushing consistently | 16:10 |
| inc0 | thanks sdake | 16:10 |
| inc0 | I'll push buntu | 16:10 |
| kfox1111 | if you coudl do the centos-binary and ubuntu-binary first, then I can test sooner. | 16:10 |
| sdake | inc0 cool - splitting up work sounds great :) | 16:10 |
| inc0 | no, we need to handle it automagically | 16:10 |
| inc0 | at the end of the day | 16:11 |
| kfox1111 | +1 to automation in the future. | 16:11 |
| sdake | inc0 agreed | 16:11 |
| kfox1111 | I can help with that I think. | 16:11 |
| duonghq | When our network better I will take the responsibility but auto is better ideal | 16:11 |
| inc0 | we should talk to infra | 16:11 |
| portdirect | if you are struggling - I'll have access back in about 4 hours | 16:11 |
| inc0 | anyway, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/418550/ <- working on bringing fresh images to gates | 16:12 |
| sdake | i can definately push the centos images - I have a pushing vm just for i t | 16:12 |
| sdake | just can't commit long term to pushing or maintaining docker hub images because of time constraints with $$DAYJOB | 16:12 |
| inc0 | no commitments | 16:12 |
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| kfox1111 | sdake: awesome thanks. yeah. long term it really belongs in the gate somehow. I have some ideas after talking with infra that might work. | 16:13 |
| sdake | inc0 that work looks relaly good | 16:13 |
| inc0 | well, I hope to make it work sooner rather than later | 16:13 |
| sdake | kfox1111 what that work does is use master images (rather then newton) to gate kolla-kubernetes | 16:13 |
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| sdake | this is how kolla-ansible operates until end of cycle | 16:13 |
| inc0 | yeah, I'd like to have same logic for that across deliverables | 16:14 |
| inc0 | otherwise explaining it to users will be hell | 16:14 |
| sdake | inc0 i think where that might struggle is xenial binary since i'm not sure they have a DLRN feature | 16:14 |
| sdake | (delorean) | 16:14 |
| inc0 | why would that be an issue? | 16:14 |
| inc0 | I mean we have xenial binary | 16:15 |
| sdake | kfox1111 do you have issue with that? | 16:15 |
| kfox1111 | sdake: my plan was to get both working. | 16:15 |
| sdake | inc0 the reason is because kfox1111 stated above he needs 3.0.2 containers for ubuntu binary (the gate is voting iirc or will be soon) | 16:15 |
| kfox1111 | newest stable and trunk. | 16:15 |
| kfox1111 | then we can test upgrades. | 16:15 |
| sdake | kfox1111 cool - thats a fantastic idea | 16:15 |
| inc0 | I'd be soft against voting on binary gates | 16:15 |
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| sdake | kfox1111 so no conflict then with the idea? | 16:16 |
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| inc0 | as binary gates arent voting in kolla | 16:16 |
| kfox1111 | so that ps is great, but I'll add another set of tests for it. | 16:16 |
| sdake | inc0 ya i feel same way - maybe nonvoting gates for some time | 16:16 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: I agree with not voting on binary trunk. | 16:16 |
| inc0 | so technically there is slight chance of have them polluted in tarballs.o.o | 16:16 |
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| kfox1111 | binary stable should always work though. | 16:16 |
| inc0 | source gates are voting and should be stable at all times | 16:16 |
| inc0 | yeah, not our fault most of the time | 16:16 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. | 16:16 |
| sdake | inc0 source gates on deploy are voting? | 16:17 |
| sdake | for ansible? | 16:17 |
| kfox1111 | we should talk about making kolla-kubernetes gates voting on kolla container changes too at some point. | 16:17 |
| inc0 | no, but after registry happends there (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/413720/) I hope to make them such | 16:17 |
| sdake | inc0 sweet :) | 16:17 |
| wirehead_ | Yeah, that's already regressed at least once or twice, kfox1111 | 16:17 |
| inc0 | speaking of which, review this change polease | 16:17 |
| inc0 | it's important | 16:17 |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l, how long till it's no longer wip? | 16:18 |
| sdake | kfox1111 what we need there is cross repo gating | 16:18 |
| kfox1111 | sdake: yeah. | 16:18 |
| Jeffrey4l | will update it tomorrow. | 16:18 |
| sdake | kfox1111 i can possibly help implement that since Jeffrey4l has figured it out already | 16:18 |
| sdake | kfox1111 and its just a different set of scripts and gate code to run | 16:18 |
| kfox1111 | sdake: I think the kolla-kubernetes gate should be reusable for that. just needs containers prebuilt before the run. | 16:18 |
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| inc0 | so review I proposed is to kolla-k8s | 16:19 |
| sdake | kfox1111 right - that is how kolla-ansible does cross-repo gating | 16:19 |
| inc0 | and this is kolla-ansible | 16:19 |
| inc0 | so both repos already have wip | 16:19 |
| inc0 | anyway, keep an eye on these changes please, we can have voting gates before end of the year with them | 16:20 |
| sdake | you mean 2017 :) | 16:20 |
| inc0 | release | 16:20 |
| inc0 | omg, need caffeine | 16:20 |
| inc0 | sorry | 16:20 |
| sdake | ya - that conufsed me - why i asked for clarification :) | 16:20 |
| inc0 | let's move on | 16:21 |
| inc0 | #topic Deprecation of Debian images during Ocata cycle, removal during Pike cycle | 16:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Deprecation of Debian images during Ocata cycle, removal during Pike cycle (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:21 | |
| inc0 | berendt, you're up | 16:21 |
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| berendt | yes i want to revisit this topic | 16:21 |
| berendt | we already discussed the removal of debian last cycle and delayed it | 16:21 |
| berendt | is there any activity on the debian images now? | 16:21 |
| berendt | there are still not gate jobs | 16:22 |
| Jeffrey4l | i see nothing | 16:22 |
| berendt | i already opened a review and a bug report for the deprecation | 16:22 |
| berendt | if you think it is fine to move forward i will open a vote on dev ml tomorrow | 16:22 |
| sdake | here is the thing | 16:22 |
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| sdake | we agreed already we would deprecate if there was not further implementation | 16:22 |
| sdake | and i have not seen further implementation | 16:23 |
| sdake | nor have I seen anyone step up to maintain it | 16:23 |
| berendt | this means we do not need an other vote? | 16:23 |
| sdake | those were the two things we agreed upon | 16:23 |
| berendt | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/417874/ | 16:23 |
| sdake | berendt i think we agred we would vote on it again this cycle | 16:24 |
| sdake | although i don't recall | 16:24 |
| berendt | ok i will open a vote tomorrow | 16:24 |
| inc0 | berendt, so to follow full deprecation path we should also send mails to openstack-dev and ops mailing lists | 16:24 |
| berendt | inc0: i will cc openstack-ops, this should be sufficient | 16:24 |
| sdake | berendt right - that is part of the process - especially the ops list | 16:24 |
| inc0 | also, I'd say if we find volunteer to pick up the work and create gates, we shouldn't deprecate it | 16:24 |
| berendt | inc0: yes, but we already tried this last cycle. | 16:25 |
| sdake | here is what I'd suggest | 16:25 |
| sdake | send email to ops list, if the ops list responds with crickets | 16:25 |
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| kfox1111 | sdake: there's a chance the email will dig someone up. so lets leave the door open a crack for that. | 16:25 |
| sdake | then send vote to ml for core review team | 16:25 |
| inc0 | yeah, so just a remider to them;) | 16:25 |
| sdake | kfox1111 agreed | 16:25 |
| kfox1111 | but if no one shows up we do follow through. | 16:25 |
| inc0 | yeah I'd hate to screw people who actually used it | 16:26 |
| sdake | berendt - i'd highly recommend doing them staged tho - email to ops list - wiat a week, then email to dev list | 16:26 |
| berendt | ok, mail to ops this week, mail to dev with vote next week if nobody rpolies | 16:26 |
| sdake | if ops say "NO WAY" | 16:26 |
| sdake | then we are stuck with it :) | 16:26 |
| inc0 | and have a volunteer | 16:26 |
| inc0 | if someone says no way to me it's equivalent to "I'll take care of these images" | 16:26 |
| berendt | ok i will do this tomorrow, we can revisit the feedback from ops next meeting and move forward with the vote after the next meeting | 16:26 |
| inc0 | you can point that in email too;) | 16:27 |
| inc0 | can we move on? | 16:28 |
| berendt | i think we can move forward to the next topic | 16:28 |
| inc0 | #topic PTG planning | 16:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG planning (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:28 | |
| inc0 | I wanted to leave it to the end, so we can keep doing it for rest of meeting | 16:28 |
| berendt | who will attend? | 16:28 |
| sdake | berendt inc0 has organized remote participation | 16:28 |
| sdake | berendt so hopefully eveyrone from the core review team can make it that can't make the travel | 16:29 |
| inc0 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-ocata-ptg | 16:29 |
| inc0 | yeah, we'll have teleconferences going | 16:29 |
| berendt | that's great | 16:29 |
| duonghq | Nice | 16:29 |
| kfox1111 | I'll be attending. | 16:29 |
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| sdake | i'll also be there in person | 16:29 |
| sdake | mon-wed | 16:29 |
| portdirect | you'll be able to disconnect me :) | 16:30 |
| sdake | i leave wed at some point, although I saw tripleo wants to have a collaboration effort | 16:30 |
| inc0 | so I think this PTG will have more k8s sessions than ansible | 16:30 |
| inc0 | depends on our decision | 16:30 |
| kfox1111 | sdake: +1 to talking with tripleo | 16:30 |
| Jeffrey4l | i will not be there. | 16:30 |
| sdake | kfox1111 unfortunately i can't change my flight | 16:30 |
| inc0 | but personally think at this stage of project we need more talking in k8s | 16:30 |
| sdake | kfox1111 so if we do anything live it will have to be wednesday morning | 16:30 |
| kfox1111 | sdake: thats ok. I'll be there all week, so I can do it. | 16:30 |
| sdake | kfox1111 cool | 16:31 |
| inc0 | well, wed is common day I think | 16:31 |
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| inc0 | and I can try to extend my stay | 16:31 |
| sdake | inc0 wish that was clear from the schedule :( | 16:31 |
| inc0 | so we'll see | 16:31 |
| inc0 | yeah, I need to pick the brain of organizers regarding time/space | 16:31 |
| sdake | comon folks plz open the ptg etherpad :) | 16:32 |
| sdake | there is only 7 people on it atm, and we had a whoel bunch of waves at the meeting start :) | 16:32 |
| inc0 | so far 5/5 is kolla-k8s;) | 16:32 |
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| sdake | even if you can't make the ptg, please add your suggestions for sessions | 16:36 |
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| rhallisey | SamYaple, around? | 16:37 |
| zhubingbing | talk about flaunted? | 16:37 |
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| sdake | egonzalez the red hurts my eyes :) | 16:37 |
| zhubingbing | fluentd | 16:37 |
| sdake | egonzalez any chance you can change your colors :) | 16:37 |
| egonzalez | yeah, me too ;) | 16:38 |
| sdake | thanks egonzalez :) | 16:38 |
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| SamYaple | rhallisey: i am | 16:40 |
| rhallisey | SamYaple, have you ever considered having multiple playbooks in kolla-ansible. A playbook for bootstrap, deploy, upgrade, ect... | 16:43 |
| rhallisey | or having one playbook with good use of tags | 16:44 |
| rhallisey | for easier browfield deploys | 16:44 |
| inc0 | rhallisey, I did | 16:44 |
| rhallisey | inc0, what are your thoughts on the matter? | 16:44 |
| inc0 | we did action variable because there is no way to share parts of roles | 16:44 |
| inc0 | like, I don't want to have role nova-upgrade because it won't be able to share any tasks from nova-deploy | 16:45 |
| rhallisey | right | 16:45 |
| inc0 | and in reality in 90% of cases they're just subset of deploy tasks | 16:45 |
| rhallisey | yup that's true | 16:45 |
| inc0 | with potentially few extra upgrade specific tasks | 16:45 |
| SamYaple | rhallisey: thats supposed to be dont with tags | 16:45 |
| SamYaple | rhallisey: at least in the ansible world, kolla does it different | 16:46 |
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| sdake | wow 19 people on the pad | 16:48 |
| sdake | like a record ;-) | 16:48 |
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| sdake | ok looks like people are sort of done :) | 16:56 |
| inc0 | yeah | 16:56 |
| sdake | I think we can refine this next meeting a bit as well - typically in the past we have 2-3 sessions on it | 16:56 |
| inc0 | let's have few minutes of open convo | 16:56 |
| sdake | just sorting out the agenda | 16:56 |
| inc0 | #topic open discussion | 16:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:56 | |
| sdake | thanks inc0 for the agenda time - I know its expensive :) | 16:56 |
| inc0 | yeah, this part of our meeting process is not ideal | 16:57 |
| inc0 | maybe etherpad would be easier | 16:57 |
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| egonzalez | zhubingbing is finishing fluentd, review/test are welcomed ;) | 16:57 |
| Jeffrey4l | etherpad can be multi thread ;) | 16:57 |
| egonzalez | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407392/ | 16:58 |
| sdake | zhubingbing ++ | 16:58 |
| zhubingbing | yes | 16:58 |
| zhubingbing | fluentd most log analysis work has been basically completed; | 16:58 |
| zhubingbing | help me review it | 16:58 |
| sdake | zhubingbing is syslog sorted out? | 16:58 |
| zhubingbing | yes | 16:58 |
| zhubingbing | about fluentd is differnet | 16:59 |
| sdake | zhubingbing cool - i'll pull down the patchset today and give it a go before next meeting | 16:59 |
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| mliima | we have many DocImpact bugs filled in launchpad:/ | 16:59 |
| sdake | i'd encourage others to do the same, so we can get this work merged - it seems pretty important | 16:59 |
| zhubingbing | Flunentd syslog with heka there is a bit different | 16:59 |
| Jeffrey4l | fluentd do not support syslog /dev/log socket and it listen on a tcp port. | 16:59 |
| inc0 | guys | 16:59 |
| inc0 | we ran out of time | 16:59 |
| inc0 | please overflow to kolla | 16:59 |
| inc0 | thanks everyone for attending! | 16:59 |
| sdake | thanks inc0 | 17:00 |
| mliima | bye guys | 17:00 |
| inc0 | #endmeeting Kolla | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 11 17:00:03 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-01-11-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-01-11-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-01-11-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
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