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oanson | Hi | 09:01 |
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oanson | #startmeeting Dragonflow | 09:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 9 09:01:35 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oanson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:01 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'dragonflow' | 09:01 |
oanson | Who is here for the Dragonflow meeting? | 09:01 |
* xiaohhui raises his hand | 09:01 | |
dimak | Good morning | 09:01 |
oanson | yuli_s, nick-ma_, lihi ? | 09:02 |
oanson | irenab ? | 09:02 |
oanson | All right. Let's start | 09:02 |
oanson | #info dimak and xiaohhui in meeting. | 09:02 |
irenab | hi | 09:02 |
oanson | #info irenab is in meeting too | 09:02 |
oanson | #topic Roadmap | 09:03 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Roadmap (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:03 | |
oanson | Since we are so few hands today, I'll just run through what I know about the roadmap, and you'll add anything I will missed. | 09:03 |
oanson | IPv6 - I know lihi is working on the comments to the neighbour discovery / advertising patch. | 09:04 |
oanson | #link Add IPv6 ND Neighbor Advertiser application https://review.openstack.org/#/c/412208/ | 09:04 |
oanson | SFC had no progress due to the work on NB refactor | 09:05 |
oanson | Chassis health and service health, rajivk uploaded a patch with implementation | 09:05 |
dimak | 😞 | 09:05 |
oanson | #link Added support for service status reporting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/415997/ | 09:05 |
oanson | I think we should have the openstack bot quote patches in the same way it quotes bugs | 09:06 |
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oanson | I have to go over the specs again, but rajivk's patch definitely includes the second spec (Spec to support service status reporting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402395/ ) | 09:06 |
xiaohhui | About chassis health, I will put my spirit in review and code base on rajivk's work. | 09:07 |
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oanson | xiaohhui, great. Thanks! I think he would appreciate that too. | 09:07 |
oanson | As far as I know, there is no progress in TAPaaS. | 09:07 |
oanson | yuli_s has been working on aggregating the rally results, and didn't have a lot of time to look into it | 09:07 |
oanson | NB API - We are still trying to get infra to accept jsonmodels. They are trying to convince us to use oslo.versionedobjects (OVO) | 09:08 |
dimak | The needed fixes were merged | 09:08 |
oanson | We think that OVO is a bit of an overkill for what we want to do, whereas jsonmodels is very simple. | 09:08 |
oanson | dimak, great. Thanks! | 09:08 |
dimak | And I honestly think we're not at the point yet where we can benefit from OVO | 09:09 |
oanson | #link Add jsonmodels requirement https://review.openstack.org/#/c/415164/ | 09:09 |
oanson | I see Matthew Thode removed his objections. | 09:09 |
dimak | I'm trying to get tonyb on IRC but timezone differences make it a bit difficult | 09:10 |
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oanson | All right. | 09:11 |
oanson | Anything else for roadmap? | 09:11 |
dimak | I'll upload some refactor patches | 09:11 |
dimak | I've started to port Chassis model so we can see how it will look | 09:11 |
oanson | dimak, Great. | 09:12 |
dimak | I'd love some input whether it makes things better or worse before we port other models :) | 09:12 |
oanson | I'll also update the spec today to incorporate everyone's latest comments. | 09:12 |
oanson | #topic Bugs | 09:12 |
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oanson | I don't see anything new and urgent except one issue | 09:13 |
oanson | Bug 1651643 | 09:13 |
openstack | bug 1651643 in DragonFlow "metadata service cannot start due to zmq binding conflict" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1651643 - Assigned to Li Ma (nick-ma-z) | 09:13 |
oanson | It's popping up all the time, forcing services to fail since we have too many publishers/subscribers. | 09:13 |
oanson | I see nick-ma_ is on it. But he isn't here now. | 09:14 |
xiaohhui | What is the specific output of the error? | 09:14 |
oanson | It's in the bug report: | 09:14 |
xiaohhui | I see | 09:14 |
oanson | ZMQError: Address already in use | 09:14 |
dimak | I see address in use in df-local-controller occasionally too | 09:15 |
oanson | Yes | 09:15 |
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oanson | I think the issue is that we were lazy, and thought that in compute node side, we don't need the publisher service for multiproc publishers | 09:15 |
oanson | (e.g. zmq) | 09:15 |
oanson | The truth is I'm not sure we need a publisher on the metadata service either. I think that's an error since everyone uses nb_api. | 09:16 |
oanson | Any other bugs that need to be discussed? | 09:17 |
oanson | #topic Open Discussion | 09:18 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:18 | |
oanson | The floor is for the taking. | 09:18 |
dimak | Nothing on my end | 09:19 |
xiaohhui | Nothing from me too | 09:19 |
oanson | All right. Then thanks everyone! | 09:19 |
oanson | Keep up the great work! | 09:19 |
dimak | Good bye! | 09:19 |
oanson | #endmeeting | 09:19 |
xiaohhui | Bye~ | 09:19 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 9 09:19:48 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:19 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2017/dragonflow.2017-01-09-09.01.html | 09:19 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2017/dragonflow.2017-01-09-09.01.txt | 09:19 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2017/dragonflow.2017-01-09-09.01.log.html | 09:19 |
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apuimedo | #startmeeting kuryr | 14:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 9 14:01:49 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is apuimedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:01 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kuryr' | 14:01 |
apuimedo | Hello everybody! | 14:01 |
apuimedo | Welcome to another kuryr meeting? | 14:02 |
apuimedo | s/?/!/ | 14:02 |
apuimedo | xD | 14:02 |
irenab | hi | 14:02 |
apuimedo | Start on the wrong foot | 14:02 |
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qwebirc69418 | hi | 14:02 |
alraddarla_ | o/ | 14:02 |
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mchiappero | o/ | 14:02 |
ivc_ | o/ | 14:02 |
apuimedo | let's see how many typos I can make today | 14:02 |
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ltomasbo | o/ | 14:03 |
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apuimedo | vikas messaged me that he most likely won't be able to attend today | 14:03 |
apuimedo | thank you all for showing up | 14:03 |
apuimedo | #topic kuryr-lib | 14:03 |
*** openstack changes topic to "kuryr-lib (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:03 | |
apuimedo | #info We released kuryr-lib 0.3.0 | 14:03 |
apuimedo | #info it includes a refactor of the keystonauth1 code so now fuxi can leverage it too | 14:04 |
apuimedo | In other news | 14:04 |
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apuimedo | #info svinota pushed a new release of pyroute2 https://github.com/svinota/pyroute2/releases/tag/0.4.12 which includes the namespace fixes we needed | 14:05 |
apuimedo | #action apuimedo to send a patch to up the pyroute2 upper constraints | 14:05 |
ivc_ | apuimedo what exactly did we need from those? | 14:06 |
apuimedo | #link https://github.com/svinota/pyroute2/commit/db97c896c12d4aee555fd182b97e426cb561e29b | 14:07 |
apuimedo | #link https://github.com/svinota/pyroute2/commit/0aff806bd504172ddc8bb951cc707a1d390a7043 | 14:07 |
ivc_ | apuimedo thats https://github.com/svinota/pyroute2/issues/317 | 14:07 |
apuimedo | and there was one more important | 14:07 |
apuimedo | right | 14:07 |
apuimedo | ivc_: that's the issue, and all the patches that fix it were finally part of a release last week | 14:08 |
ivc_ | i mean we could use net_ns_pid instead of net_ns_fd | 14:08 |
ivc_ | instead of /proc/self | 14:08 |
apuimedo | I prefer we move to use paths, isn't it better? | 14:09 |
ivc_ | either one is fine | 14:09 |
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ivc_ | afaik net_ns_pid were available in kernel before net_ns_fd | 14:10 |
apuimedo | I think vikasc's patch for k8s container-in-vm used the paths, and hence why I ask svinota to cut a new release | 14:10 |
apuimedo | anything more on kuryr-lib? | 14:11 |
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hongbin | o/ | 14:12 |
apuimedo | hi hongbin! | 14:12 |
apuimedo | #topic kuryr-libnetwork | 14:13 |
*** openstack changes topic to "kuryr-libnetwork (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:13 | |
apuimedo | we got quite a few patches to review irenab :-) | 14:13 |
irenab | apuimedo: indeed | 14:13 |
apuimedo | ltomasbo's https://review.openstack.org/402462 is passing the gates, so we should try to get it in soon | 14:13 |
apuimedo | also we should review this new tests | 14:14 |
irenab | are we waiting to get few fullstack tests or they will come as a folowup? | 14:14 |
apuimedo | #action irenab apuimedo to review https://review.openstack.org/414903 | 14:14 |
apuimedo | for container-in-vm? | 14:14 |
apuimedo | Follow-up | 14:14 |
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apuimedo | we probably want them as a separate gate with a beefier node | 14:15 |
irenab | the documentation for setting the environment for the nested should be included | 14:15 |
irenab | similar to the one in kuryr-k8s | 14:16 |
apuimedo | agreed | 14:16 |
apuimedo | ltomasbo: ^^ | 14:16 |
apuimedo | #action ltomasbo to include docs for testing out the container-in-vm | 14:16 |
ltomasbo | ok, I can add something similar, but please do the review on the rest | 14:17 |
apuimedo | sure | 14:17 |
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apuimedo | anything more on kuryr-libnetwork (apart from vikas, irenab and I having to finish the review queue)? | 14:18 |
mchiappero | uhm, I would like to ask whether it could be interesting to change the subnetpool request logic | 14:19 |
apuimedo | mchiappero: go ahead | 14:19 |
mchiappero | currently when a pool is requested: if the name is passed in it always creates a new subnetpool (never reuses) | 14:20 |
mchiappero | without the name useses the default but fails if already present | 14:20 |
mchiappero | so, there is no way to reuse a pool by providing the name | 14:20 |
mchiappero | this can be useful for nested containers | 14:20 |
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apuimedo | mchiappero: can you link the code sections | 14:21 |
apuimedo | ? | 14:21 |
mchiappero | of the existing code? | 14:21 |
apuimedo | yeah | 14:21 |
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mchiappero | I'm referring to the whole RequestPool function | 14:21 |
irenab | mchiappero: are you talking about the case when provided name matches already existing name? | 14:22 |
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mchiappero | it would be nice to find a clean way to let different containers in different VMs use consistent docker networks, so essentially sharing the same network and subnetpool resources | 14:22 |
mchiappero | irenab: right | 14:22 |
irenab | mchiappero: sounds to me like its a bug in current impementation | 14:23 |
mchiappero | well whatever method that is deemed appropriate to allow this | 14:23 |
mchiappero | is that interesting? | 14:23 |
apuimedo | #link https://github.com/openstack/kuryr-libnetwork/blob/f44c3603802af9918fa9021e64eb1add425ba41e/kuryr_libnetwork/controllers.py#L1181-L1272 | 14:23 |
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apuimedo | yes | 14:24 |
mchiappero | irenab: I'm not to sure about the rationale behind this, maybe there is a reason I ignore :) | 14:24 |
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mchiappero | ok, so, I don't have a proposal and lack time these days, but if you have one let's discuss about it in the chat | 14:25 |
apuimedo | "This API is for registering an address pool with the IPAM driver. Multiple identical calls must return the same result. It is the IPAM driver's responsibility to keep a reference count for the pool." | 14:25 |
apuimedo | mchiappero: so we are violating the contract of "Multiple identical calls must return the same result" ? | 14:26 |
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mchiappero | uhm, probably... | 14:26 |
irenab | mchiappero: can you please report a bug? | 14:26 |
mchiappero | ok, I'll double check and report in case | 14:27 |
mchiappero | (I'm done on this topic) | 14:27 |
apuimedo | thanks | 14:28 |
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apuimedo | moving on | 14:28 |
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apuimedo | #topic kuryr-kubernetes | 14:28 |
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apuimedo | #action ivc_ to review Irena's services doc patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/416228/ | 14:29 |
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apuimedo | irenab: do you know why dragonflow gate fails? | 14:30 |
irenab | apuimedo: I think the patch to infra that fixesthis, was just merged. Let me retriger the gate | 14:30 |
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apuimedo | irenab: thank | 14:31 |
apuimedo | *thanks | 14:31 |
apuimedo | #action ivc_ to review vikas container-in-vm patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410578/ | 14:32 |
ivc_ | apuimedo sure | 14:33 |
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apuimedo | thanks ivc_ ! | 14:33 |
apuimedo | ok | 14:35 |
apuimedo | vikasc has also been working on a demo that shows kuryr-kubernetes with openshift and openstack in baremetal | 14:35 |
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apuimedo | I think next week he'll probably share an asciicinema link ;-) | 14:36 |
irenab | apuimedo: any video available? | 14:36 |
irenab | thanks :-) | 14:36 |
apuimedo | we're still shortening the video | 14:36 |
apuimedo | :-) | 14:36 |
apuimedo | but the good news is that everything works well | 14:36 |
apuimedo | he'll send some patches upstream | 14:36 |
apuimedo | about connecting to SSL kubernetes API servers and other things | 14:37 |
apuimedo | that he just hacked on the environment | 14:37 |
ivc_ | apuimedo it's probably time to move to some real k8s client in kuryr-k8s | 14:37 |
ivc_ | apuimedo pykube maybe | 14:38 |
irenab | ivc_: for devstack? | 14:38 |
apuimedo | ivc_: that's the one we used for the fullstack tests on Midokura's PoC | 14:38 |
apuimedo | the problem with using that for the "watch" functionality is that there's doubts on pykube's mainatenance | 14:38 |
apuimedo | I, at least, haven't checked how they maintain it | 14:39 |
ivc_ | irenab no, to replace 'requests' in https://github.com/openstack/kuryr-kubernetes/blob/master/kuryr_kubernetes/k8s_client.py | 14:39 |
apuimedo | and unless we are at peace with how that is done | 14:39 |
apuimedo | I'd not be in favor | 14:39 |
apuimedo | (as much as I want to drop code) | 14:39 |
apuimedo | #action apuimedo study pykube maintainership and distros presence | 14:40 |
irenab | ivc_: is there any recomended clients by k8s guys? | 14:40 |
ivc_ | apuimedo what i mean is that extending k8s_client.py into a full-featured client does not seem to be a good idea | 14:40 |
irenab | ivc_: agree | 14:40 |
apuimedo | irenab: we can move to grumpy and use existing k8s go client xD | 14:40 |
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apuimedo | ivc_: did you hear about grumpy? | 14:41 |
irenab | apuimedo: maybe not a bad idea :-) | 14:41 |
apuimedo | not at all, but we'd have to get rid of any c extensions we have | 14:41 |
apuimedo | and grumpy is alpha | 14:41 |
apuimedo | ivc_: for the short term, my concern is that if we pick pykube, we have to be able to contribute to it | 14:42 |
irenab | yea, seems abit early to use it | 14:42 |
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apuimedo | and add things we may need, like SSL, websockets, etc | 14:42 |
ivc_ | apuimedo isn't grumpy a python -> go? | 14:42 |
apuimedo | ivc_: it allows you to use Go classes as well | 14:42 |
apuimedo | :-) | 14:42 |
ivc_ | ah ok | 14:42 |
ivc_ | i wonder what TC would have to say about python running on golang env | 14:43 |
apuimedo | but it's a very good point on the k8s client code. It's something that ideally shouldn't be part of openstack/kuryr-kubernetes | 14:43 |
apuimedo | ivc_: I'll let you guess :P | 14:43 |
ivc_ | :P | 14:43 |
apuimedo | alright | 14:44 |
apuimedo | anything else? | 14:44 |
apuimedo | ivc_: I suppose you'll start splitting up the services patch | 14:44 |
ivc_ | apuimedo yup | 14:44 |
apuimedo | cool, hopefully we can merge container-in-vm soon too | 14:45 |
apuimedo | I'll go to PTG and see if magnum can start using kuryr-kubernetes too | 14:45 |
apuimedo | once that is merged | 14:45 |
hongbin | magnum requires the trust feature AFAIK | 14:45 |
ivc_ | i hope to finish most of the services patch split this/next week | 14:45 |
apuimedo | hongbin: I thought that's transparent if we support keystoneauth1 | 14:46 |
apuimedo | isn't it? | 14:46 |
hongbin | apuimedo: not sure, need to do an investigation on that | 14:46 |
* janonymous got late for meeting, reading backlogs | 14:46 | |
apuimedo | janonymous: welcome | 14:46 |
apuimedo | ivc_: cool | 14:46 |
apuimedo | I'm hoping next week I can start work on the port file patch | 14:47 |
apuimedo | and we can start planning the cni split | 14:47 |
apuimedo | (which is almost a precondition for the port reusal driver) | 14:47 |
apuimedo | s/reusal/reuse/ | 14:48 |
janonymous | i saw another k8s client here few days back : https://github.com/kubernetes-incubator/client-python | 14:48 |
apuimedo | :O | 14:49 |
hongbin | great | 14:49 |
apuimedo | #link https://github.com/kubernetes-incubator/client-python | 14:49 |
apuimedo | we gotta check that out! | 14:49 |
hongbin | it looks very young though (3 months history) | 14:50 |
janonymous | yeah! thought to mention to avoid double efforts | 14:50 |
apuimedo | interesting, urllib3 directly instead of requests | 14:50 |
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ivc_ | apuimedo it also uses swagger to generate code similar to https://github.com/openstack/python-k8sclient | 14:50 |
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apuimedo | :O | 14:51 |
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apuimedo | I'm in principle against code generation... Makes for unidiomatic APIs, but let's check it | 14:52 |
ivc_ | apuimedo in this case swagger is the right thing imo | 14:52 |
apuimedo | noted | 14:52 |
apuimedo | #topic general | 14:52 |
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apuimedo | any other topic before we close for today? | 14:52 |
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hongbin | apuimedo: i would spend a few minutes to give a update on fuxi :) | 14:53 |
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hongbin | apuimedo: might i ? | 14:53 |
apuimedo | hongbin: of course | 14:54 |
apuimedo | sorry | 14:54 |
apuimedo | #topic fuxi | 14:54 |
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apuimedo | #chair hongbin | 14:54 |
openstack | Current chairs: apuimedo hongbin | 14:54 |
hongbin | during the holiday, we got the gate voting on dsvm jobs | 14:54 |
hongbin | besides that, there are several small fixes proposed | 14:55 |
hongbin | most importantly, we relseased a new kuryr-lib, which make the keystoneauth patch passed the gate | 14:55 |
hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410403/ | 14:55 |
hongbin | apuimedo: that is it from me | 14:55 |
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apuimedo | very well | 14:56 |
apuimedo | thanks hongbin | 14:56 |
apuimedo | and sorry that I forgot the section | 14:56 |
hongbin | apuimedo: oh, btw, zhangni was looking for feedback for the manila integration: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/375452/ | 14:56 |
hongbin | apuimedo: np | 14:56 |
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apuimedo | #action irenab apuimedo to review manila integration patch | 14:57 |
apuimedo | Thank you all for joining today! | 14:57 |
apuimedo | #endmeeting | 14:57 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 9 14:57:18 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:57 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2017/kuryr.2017-01-09-14.01.html | 14:57 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2017/kuryr.2017-01-09-14.01.txt | 14:57 |
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sigmavirus | #startmeeting craton | 14:59 |
jimbaker | #startmeeting craton | 15:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 9 14:59:59 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sigmavirus. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
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openstack | jimbaker: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 15:00 |
sigmavirus | #chair jimbaker | 15:00 |
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openstack | Current chairs: jimbaker sigmavirus | 15:00 |
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jimbaker | sigmavirus, that was pretty awesome synchronization | 15:00 |
sigmavirus | agreed | 15:01 |
jimbaker | and a good test of the meetbot system, one in fact will win :) | 15:01 |
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sigmavirus | anyway | 15:04 |
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jimbaker | yep, time to get started | 15:04 |
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jimbaker | git-harry, palendae, sulo, hi | 15:05 |
git-harry | Hi | 15:06 |
jimbaker | sigmavirus, anything you would like to add to our usual standing agenda of what we plan to do this week? | 15:06 |
jimbaker | ok, sounds like it's a great plan :) but we can add more as we discuss | 15:07 |
sigmavirus | :) | 15:08 |
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jimbaker | sigmavirus, you spooked him | 15:09 |
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jimbaker | so last week i made good progress on rbac, especially understanding how to merge the scoped role assignments with oslo.policy rules. it's pretty straightforward | 15:09 |
jimbaker | which means, i have a working demo script of what it should look like; and i have been able to figure out what oslo.policy actually does, despite the rather cryptic docs. mostly by reading keystone and its own codebase | 15:11 |
jimbaker | this week i plan to get that in as a spec for review. about time | 15:12 |
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jimbaker | i'm also going to set up meetings with dusty simonyi to help us on this phase of requirements gathering | 15:12 |
jimbaker | lastly i hope to put together a roadmap draft | 15:13 |
jimbaker | so that's my week | 15:13 |
jimbaker | sigmavirus, what are things looking like for you? it seems we got the pagination spec in good shape for completion shortly, and some discussion with the api wg as well on that | 15:14 |
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sigmavirus | I'm going to wrap up the specification and then work on the actual implementation | 15:16 |
jimbaker | sigmavirus, cool. i think it's just a matter of some copy editing, and the spec will be wrapped up for craton | 15:17 |
jimbaker | and thanks again for that spec work, it's really well done/well thought out | 15:18 |
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jimbaker | in particular, capturing alternatives (and their counterargs) in the spec is something we should work on doing for future specs | 15:20 |
sigmavirus | That's why there's a section for it | 15:20 |
jimbaker | git-harry, anything you would like to report? | 15:20 |
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jimbaker | sigmavirus, :) | 15:20 |
jimbaker | a good template, a good process, certainly builds a foundation for good work | 15:21 |
git-harry | jimbaker: I have some things up for review, other than that nothing is new. | 15:21 |
jimbaker | git-harry, sounds good, and we will take a look at those reviews. thanks for those! | 15:22 |
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jimbaker | on friday, we had a good discussion with respect to instrumentation for distributed tracing. it's not something that means so much now, given the simplicity of how inventory works today. it will be far more useful as we look at integration with other sources of truth (eg nova plugins with virtualized variables) | 15:24 |
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jimbaker | it is not something i'm really working on this week, given current low pri, but just something we will want to start thinking about | 15:25 |
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jimbaker | in particular, this means implementing http://docs.openstack.org/developer/osprofiler/ support | 15:26 |
sigmavirus | I've heard ... not great things about osprofiler | 15:27 |
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jimbaker | sigmavirus, got it. and that's quite valid feedback. just want to understand better pros/cons, and possibly that there specific aspects that can make it work better or not | 15:28 |
jimbaker | in the meantime, we have this new distributed tracing functionality in aws, now under preview, https://aws.amazon.com/xray/ | 15:29 |
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jimbaker | which complements (and possibly builds on) related work in terms of cloudtrails | 15:29 |
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jimbaker | sigmavirus, is it also possible that osprofiler's issues are more with respect to ceilometer, vs the api itself? | 15:31 |
sigmavirus | I believe it's more due to the fact that even when it's disabled it causes a performance hit | 15:31 |
sigmavirus | I don't have numbers for that though | 15:32 |
jimbaker | sigmavirus, got it. so maybe more of a question of appropriate granularity | 15:32 |
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jimbaker | since osprofiler is new to me, i don't have a sense of how people use/abuse it. from the DTS perspective, it's more about handoffs between distributed components, and that's where i would see any usage for us making sense | 15:34 |
jimbaker | anyway, low pri for now | 15:34 |
sigmavirus | jimbaker: I don't think it has to do with abuse | 15:34 |
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jimbaker | sigmavirus, cool | 15:35 |
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sigmavirus | As i understand it, they're using osprofiler as documented | 15:35 |
jimbaker | sigmavirus, are people using it for finegrained, or coarsegrained? | 15:35 |
jimbaker | the other thing i have been considering is that we may want to organize keys with respect to some namespace system. right now we have a flat namespace for the keys themselves, although something like ansible can take that and apply whatever convention is desired | 15:36 |
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sigmavirus | jimbaker: afaik, osprofiler has no distinction. it's on or off | 15:36 |
sigmavirus | and when it's off, it still hurts | 15:37 |
jimbaker | sigmavirus, ok. worth profiling then ... | 15:37 |
jimbaker | ;) | 15:37 |
jimbaker | so the context for namespaces: if we are storing secrets like ssh keys; or plugin configs; or what have you, we may want to distinguish from usage like ansible | 15:38 |
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jimbaker | i don't think this needs to be more than a convention, and possibly future indexing support. so if convention it could be "ssh/id_rsa", "plugin/nova", etc - in this particular case, use / as the namespace separator | 15:40 |
jimbaker | just putting this out there to start thinking about a namespace spec | 15:40 |
jimbaker | Syed__, hi | 15:40 |
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jimbaker | palendae, this could extend to separating out osa stuff as well | 15:41 |
Syed__ | jimbaker: hi, sorry for delayed presence,, was unable to connect to my irc | 15:42 |
jimbaker | Syed__, we have been discussing our upcoming plans for this week | 15:42 |
jimbaker | in particular, i mentioned i got a working script going showing the bare minimum necessary for integrating what we do with scoped role assignments with oslo.policy rules | 15:42 |
palendae | jimbaker: I'm not sure how we'd use it because Ansible has no concept of namespaces | 15:43 |
jimbaker | palendae, that's actually my point :) | 15:43 |
jimbaker | i just want ansible to get what it needs from our integration, without getting the stuff it doesn't want | 15:43 |
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Syed__ | jimbaker: yeap i have been playing around with policy.json for setting up rules, can you put up the script as well in gist somewhere | 15:44 |
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jimbaker | palendae, we will want to be filtering this out regardless. using some sort of namespace will hopefully simplify what is necessary. but definitely want your feedback! | 15:45 |
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jimbaker | Syed__, yes, i will put it out shortly; and it will also be described in the spec | 15:45 |
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palendae | Ok; well, anything querying craton can reassemble things as it wants on the client side | 15:45 |
Syed__ | cool, thanks | 15:45 |
jimbaker | palendae, exactly | 15:45 |
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jimbaker | Syed__, but in a nutshell, it's more about how to use oslo.policy than anything clever. it's really simple. but figuring it out took awhile, given rather cryptic docs | 15:47 |
jimbaker | anything else? that's all i have | 15:47 |
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jimbaker | sigmavirus, ? | 15:49 |
sigmavirus | I've nothing much | 15:49 |
jimbaker | sigmavirus, feel free to mention it. but we have #craton of course to go into more details | 15:50 |
palendae | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410342/ would be nice to get opinions from Craton devs | 15:50 |
palendae | I've gotten feedback from sigmavirus already and some from other OSA people, which I do need to get back to | 15:50 |
jimbaker | palendae, sounds good. i was re-reading the feedback this morning. i will see what i can add to the discussion | 15:51 |
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jimbaker | ok, let's bring this meeting to a close | 15:52 |
jimbaker | thanks everyone! | 15:52 |
jimbaker | #endmeeting | 15:52 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 9 15:52:50 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:52 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/craton/2017/craton.2017-01-09-14.59.html | 15:52 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/craton/2017/craton.2017-01-09-14.59.txt | 15:52 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/craton/2017/craton.2017-01-09-14.59.log.html | 15:52 |
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qwebirc5006 | hai | 16:12 |
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qwebirc14394 | Bare metal deployment, how to set up physical switches, multi-tenant network isolation | 16:59 |
gnuoy | \o | 17:00 |
thedac | o/ | 17:00 |
beisner | o/ howdy | 17:00 |
gnuoy | cargonza, I'm guessing you're not about to chair? | 17:01 |
gnuoy | ok, np, I'll grab this one | 17:01 |
gnuoy | #startmeeting charms | 17:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 9 17:01:59 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gnuoy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'charms' | 17:02 |
gnuoy | #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting | 17:02 |
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gnuoy | I'm going to carry forward the jamespage actions as he's not here to update there status | 17:02 |
gnuoy | but for the record they are: | 17:02 |
gnuoy | #subtopic ACTION: jamespage allocate days in month for bug squashing. (carried forward) | 17:02 |
gnuoy | #subtopic ACTION: jamespage talk py27 retirement with tc as ptl | 17:02 |
coreycb | o/ | 17:02 |
gnuoy | #subtopic ACTION: gnuoy to follow up on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403725/ re branch/tag in import repo | 17:03 |
gnuoy | That one is done | 17:03 |
gnuoy | #subtopic ACTION: cholcombe close out bugs against ceph-fs | 17:03 |
gnuoy | icey, do you know the status of ^ ? | 17:03 |
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gnuoy | ok, I'll carry that forward | 17:04 |
gnuoy | #topic State of Development for next Charm Release | 17:04 |
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gnuoy | We have some provisional dates | 17:04 |
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beisner | ah yes | 17:04 |
gnuoy | beisner, what were they again? | 17:04 |
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beisner | I believe tentative 17.02 charm feature freeze and release dates (to be confirmed next week): Feb 9, Feb 23, respectively. | 17:04 |
gnuoy | kk, thank you | 17:05 |
beisner | we should probably operate with those dates in mind, then reconfirm next week. | 17:05 |
gnuoy | fyi murano, trove and mistral have landed into the openstack charms collection but are not due for deployment as part of 17.02 | 17:05 |
beisner | gnuoy, so those 3 will remain available as next/master charms, but no stable release cut just yet? | 17:06 |
gnuoy | anyone got anything else they'd like to highlight for 17.02 ? | 17:06 |
gnuoy | beisner, yep, I believe that is the plan | 17:06 |
beisner | ok thanks | 17:06 |
coreycb | packages and charms are moving api's to mod_wsgi with apache2 | 17:06 |
gnuoy | ah, good point | 17:06 |
coreycb | well, charms except for swift. we haven't made any progress on swift yet. | 17:06 |
gnuoy | and all api charm are going to be deploying memcache too alongside the api service for keystone token caching | 17:07 |
coreycb | but hopefully we'll get swift done too | 17:07 |
coreycb | cool | 17:07 |
tinwood | sorry, late, chatting to coreycb in the other channel :( | 17:07 |
coreycb | tinwood, sorry :) | 17:07 |
gnuoy | fwiw to follow along at home with the memcache changes: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:feature/enable-memcache | 17:08 |
gnuoy | right I'm going to move on unless anyone wants to jump in with more 17.02 highlights | 17:08 |
gnuoy | #topic High Priority Bugs | 17:09 |
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gnuoy | So, we had a general bug triaging day last Thursday. I believe http://tinyurl.com/z26nssu | 17:09 |
gnuoy | is being used as the KPI and we're down from ~215 to 116 which seems positive for me | 17:09 |
thedac | The peer storage vs leader-set bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/charm-helpers/+bug/1654116 is a high priority | 17:09 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1654116 in rabbitmq-server (Juju Charms Collection) "Attempts to write leadership settings when not the leader during relation-changed hooks" [High,Triaged] | 17:09 |
gnuoy | thanks to everyone who did some triaging | 17:09 |
gnuoy | thedac, ok, thanks for alert | 17:10 |
gnuoy | anyone else got a bug(s) they'd like to highlight? | 17:11 |
gnuoy | #topic Openstack Events | 17:11 |
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beisner | ptg soon! | 17:11 |
thedac | should be fun | 17:11 |
gnuoy | There is some OpenStack presence at config management camp in Ghent in a few weeks | 17:11 |
thedac | and FOSDEM, correct? | 17:12 |
gnuoy | yep | 17:12 |
beisner | yes and fosdem | 17:12 |
gnuoy | #topic Open Discussion | 17:13 |
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gnuoy | Discuss openly...... | 17:13 |
beisner | Also re: events the juju charmer summit | 17:13 |
beisner | #link http://summit.juju.solutions/ | 17:13 |
gnuoy | thanks beisner | 17:13 |
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thedac | I'll highlight the percona change that will make 5.6 behave like 5.5 regarding memory https://review.openstack.org/#/c/417131/ | 17:13 |
beisner | ah yes good call thedac | 17:14 |
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beisner | that's been a point of awkwardness >= 5.6 wrt pxc | 17:14 |
gnuoy | thedac, interesting, I didn't know about that | 17:14 |
thedac | not directly OpenStack related but useful | 17:14 |
gnuoy | defo | 17:15 |
beisner | and awkward is an awkward word | 17:15 |
thedac | :) | 17:15 |
gnuoy | ok, I'm going to slam the door on this meeting unless anyone has anything else | 17:15 |
beisner | cheers, thanks gnuoy - thanks all | 17:15 |
gnuoy | next meeting same time same place 23rd January, cargonza to chair | 17:15 |
gnuoy | #endmeeting | 17:16 |
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openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2017/charms.2017-01-09-17.01.html | 17:16 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2017/charms.2017-01-09-17.01.txt | 17:16 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2017/charms.2017-01-09-17.01.log.html | 17:16 |
thedac | thanks, gnuoy | 17:16 |
tinwood | thanks gnuoy | 17:16 |
gnuoy | np | 17:16 |
coreycb | thanks gnuoy | 17:17 |
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