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| ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 08:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 7 08:01:26 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 08:01 |
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| ifat_afek | Hi everyone! | 08:01 |
| nadav | hi all | 08:01 |
| eyalb | hi | 08:02 |
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| alexey_weyl | Helloooooooooooooooooo | 08:03 |
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| ifat_afek | #topic Status and Updates | 08:04 |
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| idan_hefetz | Hi! | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | I’m about to start working on implementing Vitrage as a Doctor Inspector. There are two tasks that we should perform: | 08:04 |
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| ifat_afek | 1.Write tests in OPNFV environment for Vitrage | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | 2.Support Vitrage installation as part of Apex OPNFV installer. | 08:04 |
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| ifat_afek | The second task is currently blocked, as we are waiting for Red Hat to prepare Vitrage packages. I’ll start working on the first task, hopefully in the coming days. | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | who else wants to update? | 08:05 |
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| alexey_weyl | I will | 08:05 |
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| alexey_weyl | I have started to work on the Vitrage-Aodh integration | 08:05 |
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| danoffek | Hi guys, | 08:06 |
| alexey_weyl | we want to add a new type of alarm to Aodh | 08:06 |
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| alexey_weyl | so our alarms will be raised in Aodh right away without running evaluator on them | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | alexey_weyl: you mean Aodh evaluator ;-) | 08:07 |
| alexey_weyl | and also there is no field in the current alarms where external alarm can preserve theirs information | 08:07 |
| alexey_weyl | I am going to add a blueprint to aodh today and also send an email to the community | 08:08 |
| alexey_weyl | ifat_afek: of course | 08:08 |
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| alexey_weyl | thats it for now | 08:08 |
| ifat_afek | alexey_weyl: cool, we were waiting for this change for a long time | 08:09 |
| ifat_afek | Gordon Chung and Julien Danjou were in our design session in Barcelona, and I know they basically approve the chagne. Of course, they need to see the details | 08:10 |
| ifat_afek | thanks! | 08:10 |
| eyalb | I will update | 08:10 |
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| eyalb | I started to work on a collectd datasource | 08:10 |
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| eyalb | I setup a devstack with collectd that monitors ovs interfaces | 08:11 |
| eyalb | and was able to to put down and up an interface and see that there is a notification | 08:12 |
| eyalb | the problem is that I dont think collectd supports a pull method to get the current status of the notifications | 08:12 |
| eyalb | we might use a hack that saves the state to a file or a database and then read the current status | 08:13 |
| eyalb | thats all | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | eyalb: that’s great | 08:13 |
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| ifat_afek | I mean, besides the hack… but sounds like we have no choice | 08:14 |
| ifat_afek | anyone else wants to update? | 08:14 |
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| ifat_afek | Ok, one more thing - there are a few tasks that we wanted to do in Vitrage and won’t have time for them in Ocata. I plan to send an email with these tasks, maybe someone will decide to take one of them after all | 08:18 |
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| ifat_afek | That’s it, thanks everybody | 08:18 |
| eyalb | bye | 08:18 |
| tovin07 | bye | 08:18 |
| ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 08:19 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 7 08:19:02 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:19 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-12-07-08.01.html | 08:19 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-12-07-08.01.txt | 08:19 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-12-07-08.01.log.html | 08:19 |
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| acabot_ | #startmeeting watcher | 09:01 |
| alexchadin | O/ | 09:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 7 09:01:11 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is acabot_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 09:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'watcher' | 09:01 |
| alexchadin | Hello:) | 09:01 |
| hidekazu | hello | 09:01 |
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| brunograz | o/ | 09:01 |
| acabot_ | agenda for today #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#12.2F07.2F2016 | 09:01 |
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| diga | o/ | 09:02 |
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| acabot_ | lets start | 09:02 |
| acabot_ | #topic Announcements | 09:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 09:02 | |
| acabot_ | I dont have any announcement today :-) | 09:03 |
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| acabot_ | do you have some ? | 09:03 |
| alexchadin | nope | 09:03 |
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| acabot_ | ok lets go to action reviews | 09:03 |
| acabot_ | #topic Review Action Items | 09:03 |
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| acabot_ | Watcher specs | 09:03 |
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| acabot_ | Define grammar for workload characterization needs a new PS after answering comments | 09:03 |
| acabot_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377100/ | 09:04 |
| acabot_ | #action hvprash add a new PS for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377100/ | 09:04 |
| acabot_ | Define when an action plan is stale/invalid needs final reviews from core | 09:04 |
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| acabot_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386293/ | 09:04 |
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| acabot_ | I'd like to have more reviewers on this one | 09:05 |
| acabot_ | before +2 | 09:05 |
| jed56 | Hi | 09:05 |
| acabot_ | hop sorry it has been merged :-) | 09:05 |
| acabot_ | jwcroppe W+1 it | 09:05 |
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| Yumeng | hi | 09:05 |
| alexchadin | hi | 09:06 |
| hanrong | hi | 09:06 |
| acabot_ | is licanwei here ? | 09:06 |
| alexchadin | no | 09:06 |
| licanwei | yes | 09:06 |
| licanwei | :) | 09:06 |
| acabot_ | licanwei : your spec has been merged | 09:06 |
| alexchadin | oh, sorry:) | 09:07 |
| licanwei | thank you all | 09:07 |
| acabot_ | you can continue implementing | 09:07 |
| licanwei | ok | 09:07 |
| acabot_ | Add improvements to the planner and workflow mechanisms needs final reviews from core | 09:07 |
| acabot_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385871/ | 09:07 |
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| acabot_ | I'd like to have more reviewers on this one as well | 09:07 |
| acabot_ | who wants to review it ? I'd like to have it merge by end of week | 09:08 |
| acabot_ | as alexchadin alreday started implementing it | 09:08 |
| diga | will look at this | 09:08 |
| licanwei | +1 | 09:08 |
| acabot_ | #action diga review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385871/ | 09:08 |
| hidekazu | i will once again | 09:08 |
| diga | +1 | 09:09 |
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| acabot_ | #action licanwei hidekazu review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385871/ | 09:09 |
| acabot_ | thx you guys | 09:09 |
| acabot_ | Audit tag in VM Metadata needs reviews | 09:09 |
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| acabot_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391374/ | 09:09 |
| Yumeng | +1 | 09:09 |
| acabot_ | #action Yumeng review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391374/ | 09:10 |
| acabot_ | #action acabot review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391374/ | 09:10 |
| alexchadin | +1 | 09:10 |
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| alexchadin | will review it | 09:10 |
| acabot_ | #action acabot_ alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391374/ | 09:10 |
| acabot_ | Support Description For Dynamic Action needs work items | 09:10 |
| acabot_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401111/ | 09:10 |
| acabot_ | hanrong : are you working on work items ? | 09:11 |
| hanrong | yes | 09:11 |
| acabot_ | great thx | 09:11 |
| acabot_ | #action hanrong complete work items for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401111/ | 09:11 |
| acabot_ | Add specs for cache occupancy strategy needs reviews | 09:11 |
| acabot_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398162/ | 09:11 |
| pshedimb | I'm still working on it | 09:11 |
| pshedimb | Susanne asked me to add GUI compenent to it | 09:12 |
| acabot_ | pshedimb : ok I thaught it was ready to be reviewed | 09:12 |
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| pshedimb | acabot_, This is a last minute thing that came up. | 09:12 |
| acabot_ | pshedimb : I'm not sure GUI must be part of the spec | 09:12 |
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| acabot_ | pshedimb : maybe it should be done as a BP in watcher-dashboard ? | 09:13 |
| pshedimb | acabot_, oh ok. susanne asked me to add it. In that case it is open for review | 09:13 |
| acabot_ | pshedimb : ok thx | 09:13 |
| acabot_ | who wants to review ? | 09:14 |
| hidekazu | i want | 09:14 |
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| licanwei | +1 | 09:14 |
| acabot_ | #action acabot_ licanwei review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398162/ | 09:14 |
| acabot_ | moving to Watcher | 09:14 |
| acabot_ | centralise-config-opts needs reviews & jenkins fixes | 09:14 |
| pshedimb | yes | 09:15 |
| acabot_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/watcher+branch:master+topic:bp/centralise-config-opts | 09:15 |
| acabot_ | pshedimb : anything wrong with jenkins ? | 09:15 |
| pshedimb | yeah. | 09:15 |
| pshedimb | but it is fixed now. few inutes ago, dtardivel merged code t fix it | 09:15 |
| pshedimb | minutes* | 09:16 |
| acabot_ | ok great | 09:16 |
| acabot_ | who wants to review config opts ? | 09:16 |
| pshedimb | common someone :_ | 09:17 |
| pshedimb | :) | 09:17 |
| hanrong | +1 | 09:17 |
| acabot_ | pshedimb : I think you will have to wait that vincentfrancoise come back from holidays ;-) | 09:17 |
| pshedimb | acabot_, hahaa | 09:18 |
| acabot_ | #action hanrong review https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/watcher+branch:master+topic:bp/centralise-config-opts | 09:18 |
| pshedimb | hanrong, yayy! | 09:18 |
| atuly | hi | 09:18 |
| acabot_ | check the state of action plan needs reviews | 09:18 |
| acabot_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391383/ | 09:18 |
| acabot_ | I haven't looked at this one in detail, is there still open issues ? | 09:19 |
| acabot_ | in comments | 09:19 |
| acabot_ | licanwei alexchadin : ? | 09:19 |
| acabot_ | brunograz | 09:19 |
| alexchadin | acabot_: I will recheck | 09:19 |
| alexchadin | it | 09:19 |
| acabot_ | ok | 09:20 |
| brunograz | Need to review it again as well | 09:20 |
| acabot_ | #action brunograz alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391383/ | 09:20 |
| acabot_ | Add auto_trigger support to watcher should be merged | 09:20 |
| acabot_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403718/ | 09:20 |
| acabot_ | #action dtardivel jed56 merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403718/ | 09:21 |
| acabot_ | Specific exception for stale cluster state was added needs reviews | 09:21 |
| acabot_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399202/ | 09:21 |
| diga | acabot_: alexchadin : why we dont write auto trigger logic in seperate file | 09:21 |
| jed56 | Okay I will take a look today | 09:21 |
| diga | with inserting into the base | 09:21 |
| acabot_ | diga : ok lets discuss https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398044/ | 09:22 |
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| diga | ok | 09:22 |
| acabot_ | is this patch doing the same thing that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403718/ ? | 09:22 |
| diga | acabot_: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407291/ | 09:23 |
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| diga | acabot_: and more thing, I dont see any migration files added in the alembic under the versions | 09:24 |
| acabot_ | alexchadin diga : I'm sorry but its unclear to me what you are doing on automatic-triggering-audit | 09:24 |
| diga | acabot_: will add that | 09:24 |
| alexchadin | acabot_: It will launch action plan just after creating of audit | 09:25 |
| alexchadin | acabot_: both for ONESHOT and CONTINUOUS types | 09:25 |
| diga | acabot_: when we found auto_trigger in api to true, it will launch the action plan | 09:25 |
| diga | alexchadin: +1 | 09:25 |
| acabot_ | yes I know but I dont understand why we have multiple patches like https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/watcher+branch:master+topic:bp/automatic-triggering-audit | 09:25 |
| acabot_ | subjects look the same | 09:26 |
| alexchadin | yeap | 09:26 |
| diga | acabot_: one has submitted by alexchadin & one from my side | 09:26 |
| acabot_ | I can see that but does it implement the same feature ? | 09:26 |
| alexchadin | It does | 09:26 |
| alexchadin | I've uploaded it on 28.11 | 09:27 |
| alexchadin | diga uploaded his version on 05.12 | 09:27 |
| acabot_ | ok and diga's version does not pass the gate | 09:27 |
| acabot_ | so I think diga you should abandon your change | 09:27 |
| diga | acabot_: alexchadin : yeah | 09:27 |
| acabot_ | and we will merge alexchadin code as it has been reviewed and checked by jenkins | 09:27 |
| acabot_ | diga : sorry for that | 09:28 |
| diga | :( okay | 09:28 |
| acabot_ | #action diga abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407291/ | 09:28 |
| acabot_ | Documentation for Workload Balance Migration Strategy needs reviews | 09:28 |
| acabot_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404972/ | 09:28 |
| diga | acabot_: should I start work on parallel execution of action plan for audit | 09:29 |
| acabot_ | diga : no no | 09:29 |
| diga | ok | 09:29 |
| acabot_ | let me look at other open BPs later | 09:29 |
| diga | ok | 09:29 |
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| acabot_ | who wants to review doc strategy ? | 09:30 |
| hidekazu | +1 | 09:30 |
| licanwei | +1 | 09:30 |
| Yumeng | i want to review | 09:30 |
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| acabot_ | #action acabot_ hidekazu licanwei Yumang review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404972/ | 09:30 |
| acabot_ | thx | 09:30 |
| acabot_ | Watcher CLI | 09:30 |
| acabot_ | Add auto_trigger support should be merged | 09:30 |
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| acabot_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403716/ | 09:31 |
| acabot_ | #action dtardivel jed56 merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403716/ | 09:31 |
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| acabot_ | Add functional tests to watcherclient needs reviews | 09:31 |
| acabot_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389181/ | 09:31 |
| Yumeng | +1 | 09:31 |
| acabot_ | alexchadin : I think you will also have to wait for vincentfrancoise ;-) | 09:31 |
| alexchadin | dtardivel: I've added documentation of how to start tempest | 09:32 |
| acabot_ | thank you Yumeng ! | 09:32 |
| Yumeng | :) always welcome | 09:32 |
| acabot_ | #action Yumeng review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389181/ | 09:32 |
| alexchadin | Yumeng: thanks! | 09:32 |
| atuly | +1 | 09:32 |
| acabot_ | #action atuly review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389181/ | 09:33 |
| alexchadin | atuly: Yumeng: thank you, guys:) | 09:33 |
| Yumeng | alexchadin: :) | 09:33 |
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| acabot_ | so many reviewers today ! great meeting :-D | 09:33 |
| atuly | :) | 09:33 |
| acabot_ | changes to make consistent with other openstack component needs reviews | 09:33 |
| acabot_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403434/ | 09:33 |
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| acabot_ | it doesn't pass jenkins | 09:34 |
| atuly | this need some clarification | 09:34 |
| acabot_ | forget it | 09:34 |
| acabot_ | atuly : yes | 09:34 |
| acabot_ | #topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion | 09:35 |
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| acabot_ | #info Our current target is ocata-2 due next week | 09:35 |
| acabot_ | #link https://launchpad.net/watcher/+milestone/ocata-2 | 09:35 |
| acabot_ | diga : could you start writing a spec for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/license-cost-aware-vm-placement-strategy ? | 09:36 |
| diga | acabot_: sure | 09:36 |
| diga | :) nice stuff | 09:36 |
| acabot_ | #action diga start writing a spec for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/license-cost-aware-vm-placement-strategy | 09:37 |
| diga | +1 | 09:37 |
| acabot_ | hanrong : could you share the link for the BP you updated ? | 09:37 |
| acabot_ | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/cluster-energy-saving | 09:39 |
| acabot_ | hanrong updated the description to fit ZTE strategy | 09:39 |
| acabot_ | we decided to superseed this BP a couple of months ago | 09:39 |
| acabot_ | I would suggest that everyone had a quick look at it before next meeting | 09:40 |
| acabot_ | to remove the "superseded" state on launchpad | 09:41 |
| acabot_ | I should also check dependencies | 09:41 |
| acabot_ | alexchadin : do you think we can have https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/planner-storage-action-plan merged before ocata-2 ? | 09:43 |
| acabot_ | or its too short ? | 09:43 |
| alexchadin | acabot_: we can merge planner improvements before ocata-2 | 09:43 |
| alexchadin | acabot_: but applier changes will not be merged | 09:43 |
| acabot_ | ok | 09:43 |
| alexchadin | acabot_: it passes almost all tests:) | 09:44 |
| acabot_ | alexchadin : do you want to create a dedicated BP for applier changes ? | 09:44 |
| acabot_ | alexchadin : so we can have the planner BP merged | 09:44 |
| alexchadin | acabot_: I will create spec, since existed BP describes planner and applier changes | 09:45 |
| alexchadin | acabot_: could two specs describe one BP? | 09:45 |
| acabot_ | alexchadin : if you create a new spec for applier, please update existing BP and create a new one | 09:46 |
| alexchadin | acabot_: or you want to close this BP before ocata-2? | 09:46 |
| acabot_ | alexchadin : it would be easier for me | 09:46 |
| alexchadin | acabot_: ok, will do | 09:46 |
| alexchadin | We will have new BP and spec to it | 09:46 |
| alexchadin | about applier changes | 09:46 |
| acabot_ | #action alexchadin split bp https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/planner-storage-action-plan in 2 BP (planner & applier) | 09:47 |
| acabot_ | #action hvprash give acabot_ a status about assigned BPs for ocata-2 | 09:47 |
| acabot_ | pshedimb : could we merge all code related to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/centralise-config-opts for ocata-2 ? | 09:48 |
| acabot_ | ocata-2 is due next week | 09:48 |
| acabot_ | #topic Open discussions | 09:49 |
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| diga | acabot_: can we add migration for each field we add in db table ? | 09:50 |
| acabot_ | diga : we have decided to handle db migration starting at 1.0 version | 09:50 |
| pshedimb | acabot_, yes | 09:50 |
| diga | ok | 09:50 |
| pshedimb | It is all done. | 09:50 |
| acabot_ | 1.0 should be delivered at the end of ocata cycle | 09:50 |
| diga | ok | 09:51 |
| acabot_ | pshedimb : do you mean DB migration is already supported ? | 09:51 |
| diga | acabot_: alexchadin : I am still thinking of its a better way to seperate out the logic of auto trigger in seperate file | 09:51 |
| diga | let me know you thoughts on it | 09:51 |
| pshedimb | sorry, I meant we could merge all code related to centralizing config options for ocata-2 | 09:52 |
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| acabot_ | pshedimb : ok thx ;-) | 09:52 |
| pshedimb | :) | 09:52 |
| alexchadin | diga: auto_triggering is not another audit type | 09:52 |
| alexchadin | diga: we have separated oneshot and continuous types | 09:52 |
| alexchadin | both of them should support auto_triggering | 09:53 |
| alexchadin | that's why I've placed this function in base class | 09:53 |
| diga | alexchadin: but adding something in base file | 09:54 |
| diga | alexchadin: let it be there | 09:54 |
| acabot_ | ok any other discussion to open ? | 09:55 |
| diga | alexchadin: actually we don;t usually add something in base file that's the reason I raised this question here | 09:55 |
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| diga | alexchadin: fine, if everyone is ok with it | 09:55 |
| alexchadin | diga: I've added function, that will take effect to all child classes | 09:56 |
| diga | alexchadin: ok | 09:56 |
| alexchadin | diga: it seems ok to me:) | 09:56 |
| diga | ok | 09:57 |
| acabot_ | ok thank you all | 09:57 |
| acabot_ | have a good day/night | 09:57 |
| acabot_ | bye | 09:57 |
| alexchadin | bye | 09:57 |
| hidekazu | thx | 09:57 |
| licanwei | bye | 09:57 |
| acabot_ | #endmeeting | 09:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 7 09:57:59 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-12-07-09.01.html | 09:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-12-07-09.01.txt | 09:58 |
| atuly | bye | 09:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-12-07-09.01.log.html | 09:58 |
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| Yumeng | see you | 10:00 |
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| qwebirc25678 | hi | 12:52 |
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| alex_xu | #startmeeting nova api | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 7 13:00:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_api' | 13:00 |
| alex_xu | who is here today? | 13:00 |
| Kevin_Zheng | o/ | 13:00 |
| gcb | o/ | 13:00 |
| jichen | o/ | 13:00 |
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| qwebirc70038 | hi | 13:00 |
| qwebirc70038 | o/ | 13:00 |
| gmann_ | o/ | 13:00 |
| gcb | hi jichen | 13:01 |
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| jichen | gcb :) | 13:01 |
| alex_xu | let us wait one more minute | 13:01 |
| alex_xu | ok, looks like johnthetubaguy and sdague aren't around here today | 13:02 |
| gmann_ | oh | 13:02 |
| alex_xu | I saw sdague two mins ago, but I didn't see johnthetubaguy today | 13:03 |
| alex_xu | so first, let me quick update the status | 13:03 |
| alex_xu | we will have priority task related specs merge in ocata. | 13:04 |
| alex_xu | one spec is still under discussion | 13:04 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/393205 | 13:04 |
| gmann_ | filter one | 13:04 |
| alex_xu | gmann_: yea | 13:04 |
| gmann_ | i will also check tomorrow. | 13:05 |
| Kevin_Zheng | hard one... | 13:05 |
| gmann_ | Kevin_Zheng: yea but nice work | 13:05 |
| alex_xu | looks like sdague have conern about the policy to enable the ignored filter. And I'm still feel we should use microversion for adding filter which mapping to the API field | 13:05 |
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| sdague | o/ | 13:07 |
| alex_xu | except the priority task, we have 4 non-priotiy specs merged, and most of them are patch ready | 13:07 |
| gmann_ | version bump will be helpful if user using those filter wrongly and once we enable it start returning filtered servers | 13:07 |
| alex_xu | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-nova-priorities-tracking | 13:08 |
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| alex_xu | ^ I put all the patches which are ready in the etherpad | 13:08 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | cool | 13:09 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/377528 | 13:09 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/386771 | 13:09 |
| alex_xu | ^ those two are very close I think | 13:09 |
| alex_xu | so...that is update from me. I think the left time we can focus on the filter one :) | 13:10 |
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| * gmann_ need to look at latest version (lot of discussion there). | 13:12 | |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377528/ being the filter one? | 13:13 |
| alex_xu | sdague: sorry, I mean https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393205/ | 13:13 |
| sdague | ah, yeh | 13:13 |
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| sdague | that's the one I meant as well | 13:13 |
| sdague | so, pretty much, I just wanted to prune down the differences between the lists | 13:14 |
| sdague | whenever we can | 13:14 |
| sdague | host / node seems to be the only real issue there | 13:14 |
| alex_xu | host is the realy host name, it isn't the hash | 13:14 |
| sdague | what is the name of the field that gets exposed that's the hash? | 13:15 |
| alex_xu | hostid | 13:15 |
| alex_xu | s/hostid/hostId/ | 13:15 |
| sdague | ok | 13:15 |
| alex_xu | hostId is calculated at api layer | 13:15 |
| alex_xu | based on the host | 13:15 |
| sdague | right | 13:15 |
| sdague | so... not that we should fix this now, but in an ideal world I feel like we'd only have one field we expose to the user: host | 13:16 |
| sdague | and if you are a normal user, it's the hash | 13:16 |
| sdague | and if you are a priv user, it's the real hostname | 13:16 |
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| alex_xu | sdague: yea, that sounds better | 13:16 |
| sdague | and I want to get rid of the policy point for this | 13:17 |
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| sdague | alex_xu: I think you were good with making the lists as close as possible | 13:17 |
| alex_xu | sdague: thanks | 13:18 |
| sdague | how do you feel about removing the policy control | 13:18 |
| sdague | ? | 13:18 |
| alex_xu | actually the policy control is pointed by johnthetubaguy, the point is we give a chance to the user if they really depend on some parameters we just removed it | 13:18 |
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| alex_xu | sdague: actually I'm on the side for afraid break user :) | 13:19 |
| alex_xu | but yes, that totally undiscoverable. | 13:20 |
| gmann_ | policy control means on ignored ones ? | 13:20 |
| alex_xu | really hope we have capabilities discovery right now | 13:20 |
| alex_xu | gmann_: at line 87 of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393205/10/specs/ocata/approved/add-whitelist-for-server-list-filter-sort-parameters.rst | 13:21 |
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| alex_xu | gmann_: it means enable or ignore the unsafed/bad parameters. | 13:21 |
| gmann_ | i see | 13:22 |
| alex_xu | sorry, I just drop the network | 13:23 |
| gmann_ | but if those did not gave filtered list in current situation (jointed table etc)might be ok but yea for other they can be break | 13:24 |
| alex_xu | sdague: I didn't have strong point now. give it is undiscoverable. And if we decide to remove all the bad stuff. then yes, remove that policy control | 13:24 |
| alex_xu | gmann_: yea, so just ignore them can avoid break the user's code directly | 13:25 |
| gmann_ | yea | 13:25 |
| alex_xu | gmann_: just the result didn't return expected | 13:25 |
| gmann_ | but that should be ok, people knows unindexed/bad one can be unsupported any time with bug fix etc | 13:26 |
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| alex_xu | gmann_: emm...yea | 13:27 |
| alex_xu | gmann_: and it is almost only for admin user | 13:28 |
| alex_xu | for filters | 13:28 |
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| alex_xu | I keep the full list for non-admin user https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/f8a81807e016c17e6c45d318d5c92ba0cc758b01/nova/api/openstack/compute/servers.py#L1103 | 13:28 |
| gmann_ | yea nice point, that also makes less usage | 13:29 |
| gmann_ | yes non-admin one were fine | 13:29 |
| sdague | so, we're not going to break users exactly, they'll just get more results back for undocumented behavior | 13:29 |
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| gmann_ | yea | 13:30 |
| alex_xu | I'm searching the meeting log | 13:30 |
| alex_xu | <johnthetubaguy> we got direct feedback on this at the summit, from operators saying don't break my searching | 13:30 |
| alex_xu | ^ that is the point John worry about | 13:31 |
| sdague | ok... well, we could decide to add that bit late, right? | 13:31 |
| alex_xu | emm...yes | 13:31 |
| sdague | so move forward with that as a thing to think about once johnthetubaguy gets back | 13:32 |
| sdague | but the rest of it could get put together | 13:32 |
| alex_xu | sdague: sorry, I didn't get you for last sentence | 13:33 |
| sdague | alex_xu: I'm trying to make sure we don't stall out on that policy point | 13:34 |
| alex_xu | sdague: yea, that is good idea | 13:34 |
| sdague | and that we can move the code forward and think about how to resolve that last bit once we have everyone around | 13:34 |
| alex_xu | +1 for the plan | 13:35 |
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| gmann_ | yea | 13:35 |
| alex_xu | sdague: and for add mapping sort, like add sort key display_name which is mapping to db name column. I feel this needs a microversion | 13:36 |
| sdague | is there any code up for any of the rest of it yet? | 13:36 |
| sdague | alex_xu: what needs a microversion? | 13:36 |
| alex_xu | sdague: the base patch is ready https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/consistent-query-parameters-validation | 13:36 |
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| alex_xu | sdague: the line 137 - 141 of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393205/10/specs/ocata/approved/add-whitelist-for-server-list-filter-sort-parameters.rst | 13:36 |
| alex_xu | currently the sort_key are mapping to the DB column name directly. that proposal to add a set of new sort_key which mapping the name of API field | 13:37 |
| alex_xu | I hesitate that should be added by microversion, and maybe another spec | 13:38 |
| alex_xu | emm.... | 13:41 |
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| alex_xu | sdague: are you still around? | 13:41 |
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| alex_xu | or I have network problem... | 13:42 |
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| gmann_ | or if we are not sure then how about we mention in this spec that decision can be taken at time when those will be proposed ? | 13:42 |
| alex_xu | gmann_: sorry I didn't get you also | 13:44 |
| gmann_ | oh, i was saying about microversion bump decision | 13:44 |
| gmann_ | as that can be with new spec and move with current proposal of filter things ? | 13:45 |
| gmann_ | but not sure sdague point on that. | 13:45 |
| alex_xu | gmann_: yea, that sounds good also. I think that isn't key thing we want to achive in the spec | 13:46 |
| gmann_ | yea | 13:46 |
| alex_xu | ok, so the next thing is we can begin to work on the patch | 13:47 |
| gmann_ | sdague: seems not here :). if nothing more, may be we can move to next topic | 13:48 |
| gmann_ | alex_xu: yes | 13:48 |
| alex_xu | yea | 13:48 |
| alex_xu | #topic open | 13:48 |
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| alex_xu | anthing for open? | 13:48 |
| alex_xu | s/anthing/anything/ | 13:48 |
| gmann_ | alex_xu: as we discussed on IRC about this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402372/ | 13:49 |
| gmann_ | but sdague johnthetubaguy not available now, may be we can discuss that later | 13:49 |
| alex_xu | gmann_: yea, :) | 13:49 |
| Kevin_Zheng | yea | 13:49 |
| gmann_ | alex_xu: because i am very afraid on that as it change create server to 400 which is very common API | 13:50 |
| gmann_ | ok | 13:50 |
| alex_xu | gmann_: yea, I see your point | 13:50 |
| alex_xu | gmann_: sounds like we face those hard problem many times :) | 13:51 |
| gmann_ | yea :) | 13:51 |
| alex_xu | I totally hate to answer similar question :) | 13:51 |
| sdague | alex_xu: sorry, I got pulled away briefly | 13:51 |
| gmann_ | heh | 13:51 |
| alex_xu | sdague: no worries | 13:52 |
| gmann_ | sdague: we need your feedback on this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402372/ | 13:52 |
| sdague | so, lets start with the keys that we currently filter by, and I agree we should probably add a new set of keys as a microversion | 13:52 |
| gmann_ | oh. sorry | 13:52 |
| sdague | I would like to bunch them up though so we add a bunch at once | 13:52 |
| alex_xu | sdague: cool | 13:52 |
| sdague | and not do them one at a time | 13:52 |
| alex_xu | cool, the patch can be started now | 13:53 |
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| alex_xu | ok, I think that is all | 13:55 |
| alex_xu | sdague: looking your feedback on https://review.openstack.org/402372 | 13:55 |
| alex_xu | gmann_: we can just wait Sean feedback on the patch | 13:55 |
| sdague | ok, I'll look after the meeting | 13:55 |
| alex_xu | sdague: thanks | 13:55 |
| alex_xu | anytihng more want to bring up? | 13:55 |
| gmann_ | sdague: thanks | 13:55 |
| alex_xu | looks like no | 13:56 |
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| alex_xu | so, thanks all! | 13:56 |
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| alex_xu | #endmeeting | 13:56 |
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| gmann_ | Thanks alex_xu | 13:56 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 7 13:56:26 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-12-07-13.00.html | 13:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-12-07-13.00.txt | 13:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-12-07-13.00.log.html | 13:56 |
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| ramishra | #startmeeting heat | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 7 15:00:07 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ramishra. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'heat' | 15:00 |
| ramishra | #topic roll call | 15:00 |
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| zaneb | howdy | 15:00 |
| therve | Yop | 15:00 |
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| cwolferh | o/ | 15:01 |
| ramishra | hey guys, thanks for joining. | 15:01 |
| ramishra | Not sure if we have any more joining. | 15:02 |
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| ramishra | ok, let's move on:) | 15:03 |
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| ramishra | #topic adding items to agenda | 15:03 |
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| ramishra | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282016-12-37_1500_UTC.29 | 15:04 |
| ramishra | #topic ocata-2 status | 15:05 |
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| ramishra | #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/ocata-2 | 15:05 |
| ramishra | milestone tagging is next week, too soon;) | 15:05 |
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| ramishra | I critical and 2 high priority bugs. | 15:06 |
| zaneb | wow, this cycle is really going quick | 15:07 |
| therve | ramishra, https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1578854 is still relevant? | 15:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1578854 in heat "resource-list makes SQL calls for every resource which is a nested stack" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Steve Baker (steve-stevebaker) | 15:07 |
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| therve | There is no opened patches against it, I think we can close it | 15:07 |
| ramishra | therve: yeah, I did not check that. | 15:08 |
| ramishra | cwolferh: can we land all patches for bug 1524013? | 15:08 |
| openstack | bug 1524013 in heat "Arbitrarily-large resource properties should be allowed in events" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1524013 - Assigned to Crag Wolfe (cwolfe) | 15:08 |
| cwolferh | ramishra, the patches should be fine. the only thing i'm uncertain of is this is not writing data to the old place (which would be easy to change) | 15:09 |
| cwolferh | for the sake of a rolling upgrade | 15:10 |
| ramishra | And there are some bugs, which are assigned to some but no patches. | 15:10 |
| ramishra | I think we should reassign and fix them. | 15:10 |
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| ramishra | cwolferh: I'm wondering if we can get them reviewed in time for o-2. | 15:11 |
| therve | I don't see anything critical though | 15:11 |
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| ramishra | ok, we can move them to o-3;) | 15:12 |
| cwolferh | ramishra, also, i reordered them yesterday, so 2 more refactors before real changes | 15:12 |
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| therve | cwolferh, The first one in the queue is rough to review | 15:13 |
| zaneb | time for me to review that series I guess | 15:13 |
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| ramishra | I think we'll try and review as many as we can:) | 15:15 |
| therve | Yeah some patches are really stalled in there :/ | 15:16 |
| ramishra | I wanted to discuss about the rolling upgrade thing, that's the next topic. | 15:16 |
| ramishra | should we move on? | 15:16 |
| therve | Sure | 15:16 |
| ramishra | #topic rolling upgrade | 15:16 |
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| ramishra | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407989/ | 15:17 |
| ramishra | I pushed this draft spec today. more to discuss about it, | 15:17 |
| ramishra | I'm not sure if anyone has seen the glance specs and reviews on this. | 15:18 |
| ramishra | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331740/ | 15:18 |
| ramishra | they have also recorded a good demo. #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4iwJRlPqOw | 15:18 |
| therve | I like that plan, but I've never deployed heat in production, so... | 15:19 |
| ramishra | That's using triggers | 15:19 |
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| therve | It'd be nice to have Rackspace guys feedback on it | 15:19 |
| ramishra | therve: yeah, I will add all cores to the review. | 15:20 |
| ramishra | also any feed back on the glance approach for db migrations would also be good too. | 15:20 |
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| ramishra | db upgrades | 15:21 |
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| therve | I'd like to avoid triggers, but if it comes down to that, so be it | 15:21 |
| ramishra | We will wait and see how it works for glance, before going that way;) | 15:22 |
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| zaneb | triggers make me very nervous | 15:23 |
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| therve | zaneb, +1000 | 15:24 |
| cwolferh | the only justification for that is if writing to the old and new place results in too much duplication | 15:24 |
| cwolferh | like maybe the case with resource properties data | 15:24 |
| cwolferh | though i would also prefer to avoid triggers | 15:25 |
| ramishra | cwolferh: my only concern is over a period of time the db layer code may be unreadable if we start writing to both old and new location. | 15:25 |
| ramishra | I don't like triggers though. | 15:25 |
| zaneb | can we just migrate the properties data now and try not to screw up anything that big again? ;) | 15:25 |
| cwolferh | sounds good to me :-) | 15:26 |
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| zaneb | ramishra: I was kinda hoping ovo would isolate the compat code so it didn't become unmanageable. it hasn't really turned out that way though :/ | 15:27 |
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| cwolferh | ramishra, i don't think it is too terrible (we only read from one place but potentially write to 2), but i see your point | 15:27 |
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| ramishra | yeah, we can probably manage the db changes carefully, to avoid triggers. | 15:28 |
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| ramishra | Anyway, that's not in the plan for this cycle, triggers or not;) | 15:29 |
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| ramishra | If we can get the grenade tests setup, then we can probably ask for the tag:) | 15:30 |
| ramishra | We don't have more topic to discuss today. | 15:31 |
| ramishra | I had this topic for v2 api, we discussed it a little last meeting. | 15:31 |
| ramishra | #topic Heat API V2 | 15:32 |
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| ramishra | zaneb, cwolferh, you guys may put your opinion on this. | 15:32 |
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| ramishra | We thought that we don't have enough bandwidth to work on this in the last meeting. | 15:33 |
| ramishra | and it's not super important. | 15:33 |
| * zaneb probably didn't read the minutes from last week | 15:33 | |
| ramishra | I think Qiming had some concerns with the v1 api | 15:33 |
| zaneb | there's definitely a long list of ugly stuff we'd like to fix | 15:34 |
| ramishra | though he does not seem to around. | 15:34 |
| zaneb | otoh, moving to a new API version is painful, as proven by... just about every other OpenStack project at this point | 15:34 |
| cwolferh | i also need to read back on that, v2 would be a nice clean slate... sounds like it ought to be uncontroversial :-) | 15:34 |
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| ramishra | zaneb: Are the current issues listed somewhere? | 15:35 |
| zaneb | yes | 15:35 |
| zaneb | definitely | 15:35 |
| zaneb | somewhere. | 15:35 |
| ramishra | :) | 15:35 |
| zaneb | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/Blueprints/V2API | 15:36 |
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| zaneb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/Blueprints/V2API | 15:37 |
| ramishra | Ah, I think some guys are interested to start working on it. | 15:38 |
| ramishra | Some of them are new contributors, may be someone can help create a spec and guide them? | 15:38 |
| therve | I wished they worked on performance instead, but whatever :) | 15:38 |
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| ramishra | yeah, performance stuff is not for everyone;) limited experts:) | 15:40 |
| ramishra | Anyway, I don't think there can be much done in this cycle. | 15:41 |
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| ramishra | ok, let's move on. | 15:41 |
| ramishra | #topic open discussion | 15:42 |
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| ramishra | Anything else we want to discuss? | 15:42 |
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| cwolferh | already discussed the resource properties patches, if people review that that would be awesome :-) | 15:42 |
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| therve | Yeah review review reviews | 15:43 |
| cwolferh | :-) | 15:43 |
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| ramishra | I also wanted some of the gabbi api test patches to be reviewed too. | 15:44 |
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| ramishra | ok, I think we are done. should we move back to heat? | 15:45 |
| zaneb | reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395124/ would be great | 15:45 |
| therve | zaneb, Should I create a spec for CustomResource? | 15:45 |
| therve | Or whatever we called it | 15:45 |
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| zaneb | therve: yes, by all means | 15:45 |
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| therve | zaneb, That somehow brings back the discussion about Mistral::WorkflowExecution | 15:46 |
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| zaneb | I've thought a bit about Mistral::WorkflowExecution | 15:47 |
| zaneb | I think I would be ok with it if it worked a bit like SoftwareComponent | 15:47 |
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| zaneb | i.e. you can specify an action for create, update, delete, and there's a way to trigger replacement | 15:48 |
| zaneb | like CustomResource that doesn't mean people will use it properly. but at least they have a chance | 15:48 |
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| * therve nods | 15:48 | |
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| ramishra | therve, zaneb: I had registered this bp https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/implement-custom-resource | 15:50 |
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| ramishra | long time back | 15:50 |
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| ramishra | Somewhat inline with the AWS implementation. | 15:50 |
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| therve | Indeed :) | 15:50 |
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| therve | Replace marconi by zaqar and that's the idea | 15:50 |
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| zaneb | lol, that *is* a long time back :D | 15:51 |
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| ramishra | yeah, that time it was outrightly rejected;) | 15:52 |
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| zaneb | was it? by whom? | 15:53 |
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| ramishra | zaneb: I don't remember exactly. But, in some discussions I found not buyers for it. | 15:54 |
| zaneb | tbh it was probably too early to be really useful back then. now all the other pieces are in place | 15:54 |
| ramishra | no buyers | 15:54 |
| ramishra | yeah, I agree | 15:54 |
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| therve | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-April/032609.html :) | 15:55 |
| ramishra | therve: wow:) | 15:56 |
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| zaneb | happy to see that it turns out I have been consistent :) | 15:57 |
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| zaneb | oh, no I haven't | 15:58 |
| zaneb | I said user hooks ought to be enough for anybody | 15:59 |
| zaneb | they aren't | 15:59 |
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| zaneb | ramishra: time's up | 16:00 |
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| ramishra | I'm happy that we're back to it:) Though I knew very little heat that time to participate in a discussion. | 16:00 |
| ramishra | yep | 16:00 |
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| ramishra | thanks all for joining. | 16:01 |
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| ramishra | #endmeeting heat | 16:01 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 7 16:01:09 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| wirehead_ | Hopefully you all had a nice heated discussion | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-12-07-15.00.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-12-07-15.00.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-12-07-15.00.log.html | 16:01 |
| Jeffrey4l | #startmeeting kolla | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 7 16:01:24 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Jeffrey4l. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 16:01 |
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| zhubingbing | o/ | 16:01 |
| wirehead_ | meow | 16:01 |
| berendt | o/ | 16:01 |
| Jeffrey4l | #topic rollcall | 16:01 |
| zhubingbing | o/ | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:01 | |
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| duonghq | o/ | 16:01 |
| berendt | o/ | 16:01 |
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| Jeffrey4l | \o/ | 16:01 |
| portdirect | whoo... | 16:01 |
| portdirect | ..t | 16:01 |
| jascott1 | o/ | 16:01 |
| duonghq | we have many eager kollish here | 16:02 |
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| Jeffrey4l | lol | 16:02 |
| jascott1 | :D | 16:02 |
| sdake | o/ | 16:02 |
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| qwang | o/ | 16:02 |
| sdake | kulligans ;) | 16:02 |
| Jeffrey4l | ok. let's start. there a lots of topic today. :) | 16:03 |
| Jeffrey4l | #topic announcement | 16:03 |
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| sdake | lots o people too | 16:03 |
| sdake | :) | 16:03 |
| Jeffrey4l | 1. welcome zhubingbing join the kolla team :) | 16:03 |
| Jeffrey4l | nice work zhubingbing | 16:03 |
| sdake | grats zhubingbing !! | 16:04 |
| zhubingbing | thanks all | 16:04 |
| jascott1 | welcome! | 16:04 |
| qwang | welcome :) | 16:04 |
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| sdake | nice job on the reviews as well as code sa well as irc particiapation :) | 16:04 |
| sbezverk_ | o/ | 16:04 |
| zhubingbing | I will do my best to contribute kolla | 16:04 |
| Jeffrey4l | 2. milestone 2 will be tag around Dec 15, and i do not want to break the rule. | 16:04 |
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| sdake | zhubingbing your already doing that :) | 16:04 |
| prameswar | o/ | 16:04 |
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| sdake | Jeffrey4l its more like a deadline not a rule :) | 16:04 |
| Jeffrey4l | so next 7 days will be busy on the review and implement. | 16:04 |
| zhubingbing | ;) | 16:05 |
| Jeffrey4l | sdake, yep. i mean the release model :) | 16:05 |
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| sdake | Jeffrey4l sweet ;) - not everyone understands that here - so deadline works ;) | 16:05 |
| Jeffrey4l | we have lots of patch in queue now. and many of them are bp. | 16:05 |
| duonghq | hi sean-k-mooney | 16:05 |
| sean-k-mooney | hi | 16:05 |
| Jeffrey4l | please update yours . | 16:05 |
| Jeffrey4l | and reviews the patches. | 16:06 |
| Jeffrey4l | and now we have three repo. kolla kolla-ansible kolla-k8s. | 16:06 |
| Jeffrey4l | should make tag at the same time, imo. | 16:07 |
| Jeffrey4l | ok. that's all. | 16:07 |
| Jeffrey4l | anything else from the community? | 16:07 |
| Jeffrey4l | let's move on. | 16:07 |
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| Jeffrey4l | #topic ask.openstack.org usage | 16:08 |
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| Jeffrey4l | #link https://ask.openstack.org/en/questions/scope:all/sort:activity-desc/page:1/query:kolla/ | 16:08 |
| Jeffrey4l | i think you can show us about this? sdake | 16:08 |
| srwilkers_ | o/ | 16:08 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l i am workingo n getting my child to school | 16:08 |
| sdake | he is not cooperating | 16:08 |
| sdake | so i will be a partial participate | 16:08 |
| berendt | good idea to track this and to work on it | 16:08 |
| Jeffrey4l | ok. i will take this. | 16:08 |
| sdake | so here is the basic idea | 16:08 |
| sdake | instead of answering a million questions in our channel over and over of the same type, lets get folks to build an archive of Qs on ask.openstack.org | 16:09 |
| sdake | and then lets respond there once rather then a million times :) | 16:09 |
| portdirect | +1 | 16:09 |
| sdake | ok thats what I got there jeffrey bbiaf :) | 16:09 |
| egonzalez90 | good point +1 | 16:10 |
| Jeffrey4l | yep. and we can also move some Q&A to the doc part. | 16:10 |
| duonghq | +1 | 16:10 |
| srwilkers_ | yeah, i like that idea | 16:10 |
| prameswar | +1 | 16:10 |
| Jeffrey4l | the we do not need repeat the answer again and again. | 16:10 |
| Jeffrey4l | it can also improve our doc. | 16:10 |
| Jeffrey4l | so please take some time in the ask.openstack.org site. | 16:11 |
| portdirect | yeah - we need to get on it - just looking though theres a depressing number of "lost" queries - I'll try an monitor it on the kolla-k8s side | 16:11 |
| egonzalez90 | yes, also ask.openstack.org have a good index possition on searches | 16:11 |
| Jeffrey4l | most of them are simple. it will not take lots of time. | 16:11 |
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| Jeffrey4l | next. | 16:12 |
| Jeffrey4l | #topic balancing core team karma | 16:12 |
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| Jeffrey4l | #link https://launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+topcontributors | 16:12 |
| Jeffrey4l | please open the link | 16:12 |
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| rhallisey | yo | 16:13 |
| sdake | sup rhr | 16:13 |
| srwilkers_ | hey rhallisey :) | 16:13 |
| sdake | sup rhallisey | 16:13 |
| duonghq | hey rhallisey | 16:13 |
| Jeffrey4l | in launchpad , karma number show the activity of one person | 16:13 |
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| Jeffrey4l | you can get only fewer people are busying on it. | 16:13 |
| berendt | activity on launchpad itself, means bug tracking for us | 16:14 |
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| Jeffrey4l | yep. please take some time on bug management. | 16:14 |
| sdake | not just bug management | 16:14 |
| sdake | also blueprint mangaement | 16:14 |
| Jeffrey4l | it can not be done by one or two person. | 16:14 |
| sdake | I have a quick question | 16:14 |
| sdake | do people not know how to manage launchpad blueprint status? | 16:15 |
| sdake | or another way to put it to the core team is who does? | 16:15 |
| sdake | I do | 16:15 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l can you call for a rollcall on do/don't? | 16:15 |
| Jeffrey4l | rollcalll? or vote? | 16:15 |
| sdake | its ok if you don't btw :) | 16:15 |
| sdake | just a rollcall of people who do or dont know how to approve blueprints | 16:16 |
| Jeffrey4l | need a topic? hrm? | 16:16 |
| rhallisey | if only kollabot were here | 16:16 |
| sdake | i think we need to determine if this inbalance problem is solved by a lack of training or a lack of desire | 16:16 |
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| srwilkers_ | kollabot, the hero we need | 16:17 |
| portdirect | I'm not that familiar with launchpad - srwilkers has given me a few pointers but I'm aware this a area I need to get up to speed on | 16:17 |
| Jeffrey4l | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BugTriage | 16:17 |
| Jeffrey4l | here is some doc from wiki about how to handle bug. | 16:17 |
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| Jeffrey4l | i think most of guys can take some triage work, but may haven't idea how sdake | 16:18 |
| sdake | if people aren't interested in doing bug triage I get that | 16:18 |
| sdake | if people dont know how, we can fix that | 16:18 |
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| duonghq | we need to define triage too, the meaning we used from last cycle is not the same as launchpad definition or openstack one | 16:18 |
| sdake | so can we get a statement from each core as to their position? | 16:18 |
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| Jeffrey4l | sdake, good idea. | 16:19 |
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| berendt | i know how to do it, but do not do it at the moment, i try to spend some time on it | 16:19 |
| sdake | I am not interested in bug triage for any deliverlable but kolla-kubernetes but know how to do bug triage | 16:20 |
| duonghq | bug triaging is highly time and resource consuming | 16:20 |
| Jeffrey4l | duonghq, i think openstack one is OK. i do not want be special with other openstack projects. | 16:20 |
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| sdake | thats my statement ^ | 16:20 |
| duonghq | Jeffrey4l, maybe last cycle we used somewhat different, or I misunderstood something | 16:20 |
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| Jeffrey4l | i will take the triage work for kolla and kolla-ansible ;) | 16:21 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l needs to be a team efforrt | 16:21 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l imo we cant do it alone :) | 16:21 |
| Jeffrey4l | ^^ that's mean statement ;) | 16:21 |
| wirehead_ | I know how to do triage, it wasn't really a critical effort for kolla-kubernetes, but I should start having time to at least pitch in there. | 16:21 |
| duonghq | from last cycle, we marked bugs as triaged if we are working on it and can deliver before milestone | 16:21 |
| sdake | oh roger :) | 16:21 |
| Jeffrey4l | mean/my* | 16:21 |
| wirehead_ | (But that doesn't necessarily help kolla-ansible :) ) | 16:21 |
| Jeffrey4l | duonghq, we can re-define this. may be need ml ;) | 16:21 |
| duonghq | Jeffrey4l, +1 | 16:22 |
| sdake | we got 4 statements, thats good :) | 16:22 |
| sdake | need m0ar | 16:22 |
| srwilkers_ | ive been looking at kolla-ansible and kolla-kubernetes both recently, although more on the kubernetes side. im not really in a position to help triage, but can certainly help as much as im able to in my current state | 16:22 |
| duonghq | or just roll-call vote for which definition is used? | 16:22 |
| sdake | duonghq what we got going on now is fine :) | 16:22 |
| Jeffrey4l | duonghq, lets talk the details in the mail. | 16:23 |
| sdake | i think we are up to 6 statemenets | 16:23 |
| Jeffrey4l | ;) | 16:23 |
| egonzalez90 | Actually I'm more involved in bug triage than ever | 16:23 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l can we use meeting time to gather statements | 16:23 |
| Jeffrey4l | sdake, not all cores are here ;) | 16:23 |
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| sdake | cool there are a buncch here that hane't made a statement yet | 16:23 |
| rhallisey | me - it's complicated XD | 16:23 |
| duonghq | I can help in triaging, especially in kolla | 16:23 |
| sdake | rhallisey right - you always get a pass in our hearts :) | 16:23 |
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| rhallisey | ya someone try and get to my karma :) | 16:24 |
| rhallisey | 30k ftw | 16:24 |
| Jeffrey4l | i am say the things need be re-defined | 16:24 |
| duonghq | kolla and kolla-k8s (if needed), the kolla-ansible is lower priority in triaging atm for me | 16:24 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l - ml seems good to collect the rest of the statements from the core reviewer team | 16:24 |
| duonghq | rhallisey, congrat | 16:24 |
| Jeffrey4l | duonghq, cool. | 16:24 |
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| sdake | Jeffrey4l can you send out the list of the statements made thus far to the ml and gather the rest on the mail you send to the ml? | 16:25 |
| Jeffrey4l | other guys who are not core member can work on launchpad, too. | 16:25 |
| Jeffrey4l | if you want, you can apply the permission from the core member. | 16:25 |
| Jeffrey4l | sdake, np. | 16:25 |
| sdake | ya - we add people to drivers team pretty freely | 16:25 |
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| berendt | to we already have a gerrit dashboard for gerrit-dash-creator? | 16:26 |
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| berendt | (this is not related to the bug topic..) | 16:26 |
| Jeffrey4l | #action Jeffrey4l send out and collect more statements about launchpad. | 16:26 |
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| sdake | berendt i've been trying to get reviewday going, however infra hasn't approved my patches | 16:26 |
| duonghq | driver team can do bug and spec management :) | 16:26 |
| sdake | berendt - if you know how to get a dashboard rolling - that might be helpful :) | 16:26 |
| Jeffrey4l | ( do not know what are u talking ;) ) | 16:27 |
| Jeffrey4l | anyway, next ;) | 16:27 |
| Jeffrey4l | #topic kolla-ansible reconfiguration optimize | 16:27 |
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| Jeffrey4l | kolla-ansible's reconfigure is very slow now. | 16:27 |
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| Jeffrey4l | some operator complained this. | 16:28 |
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| Jeffrey4l | he takes 20-30 mins to deploy. but takes more than 1hours to make a small change. | 16:28 |
| duonghq | ya, we lack fully CM | 16:28 |
| Jeffrey4l | even though it works. But it is critical for operator experince | 16:29 |
| zhubingbing | +1 | 16:29 |
| Jeffrey4l | i made some improve, | 16:29 |
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| Jeffrey4l | #link https://review.openstack.org/406978 | 16:29 |
| Jeffrey4l | it is kinda of big change, but make the logical simple. | 16:29 |
| Jeffrey4l | this is the initial ps. so need more eyes on it | 16:30 |
| Jeffrey4l | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+spec/better-reconfigure | 16:30 |
| Jeffrey4l | here is the bp link. | 16:30 |
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| Jeffrey4l | optimal, deploy and reconfigre will be the some. and reconfigure will be removed in the feature. | 16:31 |
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| duonghq | Jeffrey4l, what is meaning of "the same"? | 16:31 |
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| Jeffrey4l | deploy works the same with reconfigure. | 16:32 |
| Jeffrey4l | i do not see the kinda reconfigure action in other deployment tool. | 16:32 |
| rhallisey | Jeffrey4l, is the reason it's slow because it has to run through every task to find the one that needs to be changed? | 16:32 |
| duonghq | ok, I need looking more indepth in your ps | 16:32 |
| rhallisey | Jeffrey4l, you could merge them but keep cli the same | 16:32 |
| Jeffrey4l | normally, what is needed is: prepare configure, start the service. | 16:32 |
| duonghq | but I still think we should have some kind of "real" CM | 16:32 |
| Jeffrey4l | rhallisey, i didn't change the cli now. | 16:32 |
| Jeffrey4l | rhallisey, the reason is: we use run set_config.py --check to detect whether the configuration file is change. | 16:33 |
| Jeffrey4l | it is very slow. | 16:33 |
| rhallisey | ah we're reading everything | 16:34 |
| Jeffrey4l | because ansible already now which file is change, we do not need run set_config.py script anymore. | 16:34 |
| Jeffrey4l | ya. it is bad ;) | 16:34 |
| Jeffrey4l | could u explain real CM? | 16:34 |
| Jeffrey4l | duonghq, | 16:34 |
| Jeffrey4l | configuration management? | 16:35 |
| duonghq | I just thinking some kind of CM which can tell us exactly which node and which service on node is updated | 16:35 |
| duonghq | yup, configuration management | 16:35 |
| duonghq | just idea | 16:35 |
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| jascott1 | is reconfigure in a gate anywhere? is that doable? seems like a great thing to have a watch on | 16:35 |
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| Jeffrey4l | duonghq, my propose works as your idea. | 16:35 |
| duonghq | but need try your approach, if it works, it much easier then whole CM | 16:36 |
| Jeffrey4l | jascott1, gate testing reconfigure/upgrade ( even though nothing is change ) | 16:36 |
| kfox1111 | hi. | 16:36 |
| Jeffrey4l | ok. move on | 16:36 |
| duonghq | Jeffrey4l, got your idea, but still need some hand ons :) | 16:36 |
| Jeffrey4l | we have three topics. | 16:36 |
| Jeffrey4l | #topic consistent uid and gid | 16:36 |
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| Jeffrey4l | #link https://review.openstack.org/405647 | 16:37 |
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| Jeffrey4l | this is another issue we found at the end of last cycle. | 16:37 |
| Jeffrey4l | hope we can fix it in the cycle. | 16:37 |
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| kfox1111 | +1 for fixing. | 16:37 |
| berendt | i have to i have to leave, I will read the backlog later. | 16:37 |
| Jeffrey4l | this link is a bp spec, we need catch up how we should do. | 16:37 |
| kfox1111 | should be fixed for kolla-kubernetes too, | 16:37 |
| duonghq | see ya berendt | 16:37 |
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| kfox1111 | so ansible specific solutions are not as good. | 16:38 |
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| Jeffrey4l | the issue is uid and gid may be changed in docker image. | 16:38 |
| Jeffrey4l | because the uid and gid is take by kinda random. | 16:38 |
| Jeffrey4l | need fix it and keep it won't break our upgrade. | 16:38 |
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| kfox1111 | then the container api shoudl provide a way to change them. | 16:38 |
| kfox1111 | as its consumed by both kolla-ansible and kolla-kubernetes. | 16:39 |
| Jeffrey4l | kfox1111, change it is danger. we should keep chown the folder owner during upgrade. | 16:39 |
| kfox1111 | something config setting that kolla_start reads perhaps. | 16:39 |
| Jeffrey4l | so i prefer to fix it all the time. | 16:39 |
| kfox1111 | and make it fixed all the time int he continer? | 16:40 |
| Jeffrey4l | kfox1111, we have a workaround , which fix by kolla_start. but it is not optimal. | 16:40 |
| portdirect | should we should base the uid/gid on another project (eg RDO) that has already defined a set of values for openstack services? | 16:40 |
| Jeffrey4l | kfox1111, yep. i hope so. | 16:40 |
| kfox1111 | fixed uid/gid in the container, then one time migration job works for me. | 16:40 |
| Jeffrey4l | portdirect, uid/gid is not defined in rpm package. | 16:40 |
| Jeffrey4l | portdirect, it is choose during run useradd command. | 16:40 |
| Jeffrey4l | rpm package using such command. and it do not fix the uid | 16:41 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. you have to prepopulate the users/gropus before installing the rpms. | 16:41 |
| kfox1111 | or the uid/gid can float. | 16:41 |
| Jeffrey4l | kfox1111, yep. | 16:41 |
| Jeffrey4l | then keep eye on it. it is a critical issue, imo. | 16:41 |
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| Jeffrey4l | move on. | 16:41 |
| portdirect | oh - nevermind then :0 | 16:42 |
| Jeffrey4l | #topic quick start guide | 16:42 |
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| Jeffrey4l | can u talk this duonghq ? | 16:42 |
| Jeffrey4l | QSG is bad right now. | 16:43 |
| duonghq | thank Jeffrey4l | 16:43 |
| Jeffrey4l | please ;) | 16:43 |
| duonghq | currently, we bundle many things on QSG | 16:43 |
| duonghq | as sdake, Jeffrey4l and I (a litte) discuss someday ago | 16:44 |
| duonghq | we should make the QSG as simple as posible, | 16:44 |
| duonghq | with Kolla from pip, image from docker hub | 16:44 |
| duonghq | etc | 16:44 |
| duonghq | and in the mean time, every patch on QSG should be defered or go in its own file (which mean its page) | 16:45 |
| duonghq | for the QSG writing method | 16:45 |
| Jeffrey4l | we can move the difficult think in to another part. like FAQ. like how to create a docker registry and configure the --insecury-registry paramaeter. | 16:45 |
| duonghq | We can setup fresh VM and do the step that bring up an AIO configuration OpenStack | 16:45 |
| duonghq | keep it is minimal | 16:46 |
| kfox1111 | duonghq: I like the idea, with the exception that it needs a caviot that the docker hub containers are likely insecure, so can't be used for production. | 16:46 |
| duonghq | any comment on the approach? | 16:46 |
| kfox1111 | but, I think we should be working on making a process to keep them up to date, so that they can be. | 16:46 |
| duonghq | kfox1111, we can leave a comment on the issue, due to we are talking about QSG | 16:46 |
| duonghq | kfox1111, +1 | 16:46 |
| duonghq | we need 1-2 people make statement about keep this up to date | 16:47 |
| Jeffrey4l | ok. we do not have much time. so let talk this in openstack-kolla later. | 16:47 |
| kfox1111 | have a link to the review? | 16:47 |
| Jeffrey4l | we have a last one topic. | 16:47 |
| Jeffrey4l | ryan have a nice work https://review.openstack.org/343224 | 16:47 |
| kfox1111 | thx. | 16:48 |
| Jeffrey4l | rhallisey, ^^ | 16:48 |
| Jeffrey4l | #link https://review.openstack.org/343224 | 16:48 |
| Jeffrey4l | ok move on | 16:48 |
| rhallisey | ya I took at shot at it a while back | 16:48 |
| Jeffrey4l | thanks. | 16:48 |
| Jeffrey4l | #topic kolla-kubernetes helm versioning | 16:48 |
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| Jeffrey4l | whose topic? | 16:49 |
| duonghq | me | 16:49 |
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| Jeffrey4l | ya. please duonghq | 16:49 |
| duonghq | kfox1111, sbezverk_ I remember that you guys talk about this last one or two week, | 16:49 |
| duonghq | do we have any update? | 16:50 |
| kfox1111 | haven't discussed it to far yet. | 16:50 |
| sbezverk_ | duonghq: I do not, I think the priority atm is to get microservices | 16:50 |
| kfox1111 | I can see two ways to version helm packages though. | 16:50 |
| Jeffrey4l | about the helm-mircroservice | 16:51 |
| kfox1111 | one is to version the templates only. include the main container version as a var. | 16:51 |
| Jeffrey4l | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-kubernetes/+spec/helm-microservices | 16:51 |
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| duonghq | Let me recap the issue: helm need version bump to know whether it need to upgrade the release of package, | 16:51 |
| kfox1111 | the second is to consider the container versions in the package version as well. | 16:51 |
| Jeffrey4l | as we will make tag around dec 15. | 16:51 |
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| kfox1111 | this would let us do a helm upgrade neutron-server | 16:51 |
| Jeffrey4l | this bp should be done before that day. | 16:51 |
| kfox1111 | without having to mess with arguments. | 16:51 |
| kfox1111 | Jeffrey4l: thats very soon. :/ | 16:52 |
| kfox1111 | Jeffrey4l: possibly too soon. | 16:52 |
| portdirect | I think it makes most sense to take the approack of linking version with conatiner version - though the former is nicer from a versioning pov - the 2nd fits better with the standard k8s workflows | 16:52 |
| Jeffrey4l | kfox1111, we have no choice ;( | 16:52 |
| duonghq | kfox1111, the bp should be done on o-2, not o-3 :( | 16:52 |
| Jeffrey4l | sdake, hope this pb can be done before that day. | 16:52 |
| kfox1111 | Jeffrey4l: this is a bootstrapping project. :/ | 16:52 |
| kfox1111 | there's only so much labor. | 16:52 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l sorry what? | 16:52 |
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| Jeffrey4l | sdake, helm-microservices bp deadline | 16:53 |
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| sdake | ok - kid ill - dealing with that | 16:53 |
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| sdake | you ahve my attention now | 16:53 |
| sdake | can i get a quick recap | 16:53 |
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| Jeffrey4l | kfox1111, it is a key bp. it will ensure use release 1.0 kolla-k8s | 16:54 |
| sdake | kfox1111 - so 7 days is bsically what we got | 16:54 |
| portdirect | Jeffrey4l: we are working as fast as we can :) I think we will meet the deadline but as kfox1111 points out this is a very young project | 16:54 |
| Jeffrey4l | kfox1111, then it is not a bootstrap project any more ;) | 16:54 |
| sdake | kfox1111 if that is impossible need to know | 16:54 |
| sdake | kfox1111 we will have a hard time justifyign a 1.0.0.0b2 tag | 16:54 |
| kfox1111 | Jeffrey4l: sdake we're going as fast as we can, but I'm just saying, I don't know if we can realisticly have everything converted to helm microservices by that deadline. | 16:54 |
| sdake | which means we will have an impossible time releasing 1.0.0 in ocata | 16:54 |
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| Jeffrey4l | almost all the work items is in WIP progress. | 16:54 |
| sdake | kfox1111 ok - well lets play it by ear, more people are coming ever yday | 16:55 |
| kfox1111 | sdake: we can release a 1.0.0. just not on any predefined schedule. :/ | 16:55 |
| sdake | if we don't tag 1.0.0b2, we wont be able to tag 1.0.0 iiuc ffrom the release team | 16:55 |
| kfox1111 | sdake: we're release independent. | 16:55 |
| Jeffrey4l | kfox1111, we maybe can delay fews days, but it is not a good idea. | 16:55 |
| kfox1111 | we should n't be that tightly cuppled. | 16:55 |
| sdake | ya - expectation is the tagging happens on teh schedule | 16:56 |
| kfox1111 | we could have made it without going to helm, I think. but we're redoing a lot of fundimental plumbing. | 16:56 |
| sdake | i will double check with the release team re release independent | 16:56 |
| sdake | so add an action for me jeffrey4l | 16:56 |
| kfox1111 | its worth doing for sure. | 16:56 |
| Jeffrey4l | just wanna say, if we do not release 1.0 kolla-k8s this cycle. we will release it 10 months later. | 16:56 |
| kfox1111 | I'd rather get it right then cut a 1.0.0 that is unusable though. | 16:56 |
| Jeffrey4l | #action sdake check with the release team re release independent | 16:56 |
| sdake | kfox1111 agree we aren't cutting an unsuable release | 16:57 |
| kfox1111 | Jeffrey4l: why so arbitrary? | 16:57 |
| sdake | its not arbitrary - its the ocata schedule | 16:57 |
| kfox1111 | we should be able to cut 1.0.0 whenever ready, then start with a normal release cycle after that. | 16:57 |
| sdake | kfox1111 let me take these questoins to the release team | 16:57 |
| Jeffrey4l | no arbitraty. | 16:57 |
| sdake | and find out for sure | 16:57 |
| Jeffrey4l | but we hope we can release 1.0 this cycle. | 16:57 |
| kfox1111 | sdake: please do. | 16:57 |
| sdake | there are a bunch of rules around this stuff that you may be unaware of | 16:57 |
| Jeffrey4l | just a expectation. | 16:57 |
| sdake | i am vaguely aware of them | 16:57 |
| kfox1111 | +1 to a 1.0 this cycle. | 16:57 |
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| kfox1111 | but +1 to a stable 1.0 over abritrary dates. | 16:58 |
| kfox1111 | then date based after 1.0. | 16:58 |
| sdake | its not arbitrary date, its the release schedule set in the openstack schedule | 16:58 |
| duonghq | o-2 to o-3 is such a long time? :( | 16:58 |
| Jeffrey4l | ( time is almost up 2 mins ) | 16:58 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l can you link | 16:58 |
| kfox1111 | sdake: we're release independent. | 16:58 |
| Jeffrey4l | #link https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html | 16:58 |
| sdake | kfox1111 - i will ask release team today what the story is | 16:58 |
| kfox1111 | date shuld not matter until we're part of the openstack schedule. | 16:58 |
| kfox1111 | otherwise, "release independent" is meaningless. | 16:59 |
| sdake | kfox1111 i get that, guidance i've been given is that even release independent are expected to cut milestones on the schedule from dham1 | 16:59 |
| sdake | dhellmann | 16:59 |
| kfox1111 | we can cut milestones for sure. | 16:59 |
| sdake | kfox1111 i'm not sur eif i imagined that or misinterpreted it or what | 16:59 |
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| sdake | i will find out | 16:59 |
| kfox1111 | but not a release. | 16:59 |
| sdake | we aren't releaisng 1.0.0 on 15th | 16:59 |
| kfox1111 | it won't be feature complete until its actually feature complate. :/ | 16:59 |
| sdake | 1.0.0.0b2 is a milestone - o2 | 16:59 |
| Jeffrey4l | sdake, yes | 16:59 |
| kfox1111 | I'm oko with beta's. just not rc's. | 16:59 |
| Jeffrey4l | Dec 12-16R-10Ocata-2 milestone | 17:00 |
| Jeffrey4l | OK. time is up. | 17:00 |
| dham1 | umm you must mean from dhellman, I hope to grow up to be dhellman one day :) | 17:00 |
| sdake | ok - i gotta jet - need to get get to school | 17:00 |
| kfox1111 | and blueprints that get closed before they are done. | 17:00 |
| Jeffrey4l | thanks all guys coming. | 17:00 |
| sdake | dham1 sorry about that | 17:00 |
| dham1 | np | 17:00 |
| Jeffrey4l | let us move to openstack-kolla for further discuss. | 17:00 |
| sdake | kfox1111 right -we aren't breaking the process in any way - just following it | 17:00 |
| kfox1111 | kk. | 17:00 |
| Jeffrey4l | thanks again | 17:00 |
| jascott1 | thanks Jeffrey4l, all | 17:00 |
| Jeffrey4l | #endmeeting kolla | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 7 17:00:57 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| portdirect | cheers Jeffrey4l | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-12-07-16.01.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-12-07-16.01.txt | 17:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-12-07-16.01.log.html | 17:01 |
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