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| oanson | #startmeeting Dragonflow | 09:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 28 09:00:16 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oanson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| dimak | Hello | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'dragonflow' | 09:00 |
| oanson | Hi. | 09:00 |
| oanson | Who's here for the Dragonflow meeting? | 09:00 |
| ntr0py | Hi | 09:00 |
| lihi | Hi | 09:00 |
| xiaohhui | hello | 09:00 |
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| oanson | All right, let's get started | 09:02 |
| oanson | We'll use the same agenda as last week. | 09:02 |
| oanson | It's almost the same agenda, and I didn't have a chance to update it (Had a meeting this morning) | 09:02 |
| irenab | hi | 09:02 |
| oanson | #info dimak ntr0py liangy xiaohhui irenab in meeting | 09:03 |
| oanson | #info lihi is also in meeting | 09:03 |
| oanson | #topic Ocata roadmap | 09:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ocata roadmap (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:03 | |
| oanson | #link SFC spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/394498/ | 09:03 |
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| oanson | This spec looks almost complete. I will pass is once this meeting is over | 09:03 |
| yuli_s | Hello | 09:03 |
| oanson | I didn't have a chance to do that earlier. | 09:04 |
| dimak | Thanks, I hope it will get merged today then | 09:04 |
| oanson | #link Chassis is alive spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385719/ | 09:04 |
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| oanson | This spec is merged. | 09:04 |
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| oanson | I understand rajivk will also provide a follow up spec. | 09:04 |
| rajivk | I already provided :) | 09:05 |
| oanson | rajivk, do you want to comment, or are you keeping the suspense until the spec is up? | 09:05 |
| oanson | Great! | 09:05 |
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| rajivk | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402395/ | 09:05 |
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| oanson | Beat me to it :) | 09:05 |
| rajivk | Please provide your views :) | 09:06 |
| rajivk | On specs | 09:06 |
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| oanson | I see nick-ma_ already put some comments. I'll go over it the first chance I get | 09:06 |
| nick-ma_ | hi | 09:06 |
| oanson | #info nick-ma_ also in meeting | 09:06 |
| oanson | nick-ma_, hi | 09:07 |
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| oanson | #link TaaS spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396307/ | 09:07 |
| oanson | This spec is also very far along. I think the only thing left is the 'position' argument. | 09:07 |
| oanson | yuli_s, am I correct? | 09:07 |
| yuli_s | I was on vocation for a few days | 09:07 |
| yuli_s | so, had no chance to finish it | 09:07 |
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| yuli_s | hope to send an updated version today | 09:08 |
| oanson | yuli_s, no worries. :) | 09:08 |
| oanson | No shortage of work for reviewers :) | 09:08 |
| yuli_s | ok ;) | 09:08 |
| oanson | Looking forward to seeing you update. | 09:08 |
| yuli_s | ok | 09:08 |
| oanson | #link anonymous sNAT spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397992/ | 09:09 |
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| oanson | Igor, are you here? | 09:09 |
| oanson | I'll hunt him down offline. | 09:09 |
| oanson | In any case, it looks like there is still a lot of work here. | 09:10 |
| oanson | Anything specific that has to be discussed? | 09:10 |
| nick-ma_ | i noticed the northbound api, any specific plan for that part? | 09:10 |
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| oanson | I think Igor is working on adding it to Neutron | 09:11 |
| oanson | Let me see if I can find his blueprint | 09:11 |
| nick-ma_ | ok. it is a huge work. i'm looking forward to the object model. | 09:11 |
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| irenab | oanson: was this agreedto be accepted by neutron drivers? | 09:12 |
| oanson | irenab, As far as I know, it's still in the pipes | 09:12 |
| ishafran | Hi, I am back | 09:12 |
| nick-ma_ | why need agreement of neutron drivers? | 09:12 |
| oanson | I can't find it in the blueprints. I'll have to ask him. | 09:12 |
| irenab | if the change to neutron, it should be agreedby the team | 09:13 |
| irenab | if its only DF,then it does not | 09:13 |
| nick-ma_ | i cannot see any changes to neutron. | 09:13 |
| ishafran | Here is a blueprint but it requires a change: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/neutron-local-snat | 09:13 |
| oanson | #link Distributed gateway for optimized local SNAT (Neutron Blueprint) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/neutron-local-snat | 09:14 |
| nick-ma_ | ok, got it. | 09:14 |
| oanson | ishafran, what's the status of it in Neutron? I can't see any discussion? | 09:14 |
| ishafran | I have a reference implementation based on mitaka | 09:14 |
| nick-ma_ | i just notice that we are in the discussion of snat. | 09:14 |
| ishafran | RFE itself is confirmed and in wishlist | 09:15 |
| oanson | nick-ma_, what topic were you asking about? | 09:15 |
| irenab | ishafran: seems its good to go on then | 09:15 |
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| irenab | not before Pika though | 09:15 |
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| ishafran | irenab: yes I guess | 09:16 |
| oanson | ishafran, we can add the API support in Pike, but the anonymous snat feature as a DF app in Ocata | 09:16 |
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| oanson | control it via configuration in Ocata, until API is merged (or at least in review) | 09:16 |
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| oanson | Can we move on? | 09:17 |
| ishafran | oanson: we can delay an API, in general DF support for this feature is much more flexible | 09:18 |
| oanson | ishafran, I think we're in agreement. | 09:18 |
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| oanson | Once the API exists, we can add support for it | 09:18 |
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| oanson | #link LBaaS spec #link LBaaS spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397997/ | 09:19 |
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| oanson | About LBaaS, I'll hunt down denghui and ask him to update the spec | 09:19 |
| oanson | I'll also ask him to loiter around in the dragonflow channel in case anyone wants to strike up a discussion | 09:19 |
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| oanson | #link Dragonflow deployment in openstack-ansible https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391524/ | 09:20 |
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| oanson | This is coming along slowly but surely. It looks like the base is in place. There are a couple of things I want to add to the testing (output df-local-controller log, output subunit results to file) | 09:21 |
| oanson | Once that is done, I will ask the OSA guys if we can start the review process. | 09:21 |
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| oanson | There is a lot of work still on Dragonflow side, but I think the OSA side is (alomost) good to go (except metadata service, which I'll add later) | 09:21 |
| oanson | Since metadata service requires a bit of network tweaking which is very devstack specific currently, and I want to see if it can be made more general | 09:22 |
| oanson | Or if the way it works currently is good enough. | 09:22 |
| oanson | Anything else for roadmap? | 09:22 |
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| oanson | #topic Bugs | 09:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:23 | |
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| oanson | It looks like most of the bugs have owners. | 09:24 |
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| oanson | There is one critical bug by xiaohhui | 09:25 |
| oanson | xiaohhui, I am trying to understand the reviews for this bug. | 09:25 |
| oanson | Is it https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385350/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/378192 ? | 09:25 |
| xiaohhui | what bug are you referencing? | 09:26 |
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| oanson | Sorry, this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/dragonflow/+bug/1628737 | 09:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1628737 in DragonFlow "Exception occurs when removing last port of compute node" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Hong Hui Xiao (xiaohhui) | 09:26 |
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| oanson | I see you updated the duplicate bug 1641903 with the reviews | 09:27 |
| openstack | bug 1628737 in DragonFlow "duplicate for #1641903 Exception occurs when removing last port of compute node" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1628737 - Assigned to Hong Hui Xiao (xiaohhui) | 09:27 |
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| oanson | If the last comment is accurate, I can copy the comment to the original bug | 09:28 |
| oanson | He left :( | 09:28 |
| oanson | Probably not on purpose. | 09:28 |
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| oanson | Anyway, it looks like the last comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/dragonflow/+bug/1641903 states the current status. I'll update the original bug | 09:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1628737 in DragonFlow "duplicate for #1641903 Exception occurs when removing last port of compute node" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Hong Hui Xiao (xiaohhui) | 09:29 |
| oanson | Anything else in bugs? | 09:29 |
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| oanson | #topic Open Discussion | 09:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:29 | |
| oanson | The floor is for the takinhg | 09:29 |
| oanson | taking* | 09:29 |
| nick-ma_ | cassandra driver is working. | 09:29 |
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| rajivk | I have suggestion to everyone, the code contains very large methods. If everyone from now own takes care of writing small methods then it might be readable. | 09:30 |
| oanson | nick-ma_, that's great. Looking forwards to trying it out. | 09:31 |
| oanson | rajivk, that's a good suggestion. | 09:31 |
| nick-ma_ | we also have several pending BIG reviews, which were proposed in newton. | 09:31 |
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| oanson | Personally I prefer methods no longer than 20 lines | 09:31 |
| oanson | nick-ma_, yes. They also conflict with one another. | 09:32 |
| nick-ma_ | like port-qos, topology data consistency, allow address pair, etc. | 09:32 |
| rajivk | i too. May be core reviewers can make sure. :) | 09:32 |
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| oanson | I'll try to tackle one a day, in this order: DB consistency, active-notify app, qos | 09:32 |
| xiaohhui | my connection is interrupted | 09:32 |
| oanson | xiaohhui, no worries. | 09:33 |
| xiaohhui | The fix will be https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385350/7 | 09:33 |
| oanson | xiaohhui, I said I'll take the last comment on bug 1641903 and copy it to the original bug | 09:33 |
| openstack | bug 1628737 in DragonFlow "duplicate for #1641903 Exception occurs when removing last port of compute node" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1628737 - Assigned to Hong Hui Xiao (xiaohhui) | 09:33 |
| xiaohhui | however, there is a dependent patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385349/10 | 09:33 |
| oanson | If anyone prefers a different order, please let me know. | 09:33 |
| oanson | And I apologize reviews on my end take so long. | 09:33 |
| nick-ma_ | oanson: take it easy. | 09:34 |
| rajivk | oanson, no worries :) | 09:34 |
| oanson | :) | 09:35 |
| oanson | Any other open items? | 09:35 |
| oanson | All right. Thanks everyone for coming. | 09:36 |
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| nick-ma_ | ok | 09:36 |
| nick-ma_ | thanks. | 09:36 |
| xiaohhui | dinner time | 09:36 |
| oanson | I think the project is really moving forwards! Thanks for your efforts! | 09:36 |
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| oanson | Bon appetit! | 09:36 |
| irenab | thanks | 09:36 |
| oanson | #endmeeting | 09:36 |
| rajivk | thanks | 09:36 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 28 09:36:39 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-11-28-09.00.html | 09:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-11-28-09.00.txt | 09:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-11-28-09.00.log.html | 09:36 |
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| apuimedo | #startmeeting kuryr | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 28 14:01:38 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is apuimedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kuryr' | 14:01 |
| apuimedo | Hello! Welcome to another kuryr weekly meeting! | 14:01 |
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| apuimedo | who's here? | 14:01 |
| mchiappero | o/ | 14:01 |
| garyloug | o/ | 14:01 |
| janonymous | o/ | 14:02 |
| vikasc | o/ | 14:02 |
| lmdaly | o/ | 14:02 |
| ltomasbo | 0? | 14:02 |
| ltomasbo | 0/ | 14:02 |
| limao_ | o/ | 14:02 |
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| ivc_ | o7 | 14:02 |
| alraddarla_ | o/ | 14:03 |
| apuimedo | ltomasbo: that's a head with an ear? | 14:03 |
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| apuimedo | Welcome all | 14:03 |
| ltomasbo | :D | 14:03 |
| apuimedo | #topic kuryr-lib | 14:03 |
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| apuimedo | #info The only missing item for the release that blocks lmdaly and mchiappero's work is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361993/ | 14:04 |
| apuimedo | which has a -1 from irenab | 14:04 |
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| apuimedo | I understand that this has been tried out by vikasc and ltomasbo with success | 14:04 |
| apuimedo | and I've seen some contention on the implementation from irenab and limao_ | 14:04 |
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| mchiappero | apuimedo: is there really a dependency? or is it for the release? | 14:05 |
| apuimedo | mchiappero: it's for the release | 14:05 |
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| mchiappero | apuimedo: ok | 14:05 |
| apuimedo | that will make your unit tests suddenly pass | 14:05 |
| apuimedo | :P | 14:05 |
| apuimedo | limao_: irenab: could you voice your concerns | 14:05 |
| mchiappero | yeah, I didn't know whether you wanted to include it or not :) | 14:05 |
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| apuimedo | (no need to go into all the details | 14:05 |
| apuimedo | but it would be nice to sum it up, so we can move into a decision) | 14:06 |
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| limao_ | apuimedo: I think I already discussed with vikasc and ltomasbo in openstack-kuryr this afternoon, it is ok for me to merge that patch | 14:06 |
| vikasc | irenab has opinion that import failure should be handled on kuryr-libnetwork side | 14:07 |
| apuimedo | I have to say that I agree in principle with both limao_'s and irenab_'s comments | 14:07 |
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| vikasc | i too agree | 14:07 |
| apuimedo | what I propose is to get it in now, being that it works | 14:07 |
| ltomasbo | me too | 14:07 |
| vikasc | i will remove this check | 14:07 |
| apuimedo | and then we solve those contention points in a point release | 14:08 |
| apuimedo | in general I think that the driver instantiation should be done by kuryr-libnetwork | 14:08 |
| apuimedo | and not by the module | 14:08 |
| apuimedo | but it's something we can move later | 14:08 |
| vikasc | sure | 14:08 |
| apuimedo | irenab_: vikasc: agreed? | 14:08 |
| vikasc | +1 | 14:08 |
| apuimedo | limao_: ltomasbo: ? | 14:08 |
| limao_ | +1 | 14:08 |
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| ltomasbo | +1 | 14:09 |
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| apuimedo | alright then, so irenab will probably switch the vote later when her isp lets her | 14:09 |
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| apuimedo | then we can merge it and trigger the release | 14:09 |
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| apuimedo | for Ocata I propose | 14:09 |
| apuimedo | (I'll send ML thread) | 14:09 |
| apuimedo | * Move the plugin system to stevedore | 14:10 |
| apuimedo | * clean up the couplings that we still have | 14:10 |
| apuimedo | anybody' | 14:10 |
| apuimedo | *anybody's got anything else that they want to add to kuryr-lib in the ocata cycle? | 14:10 |
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| mchiappero | well, in theory whatever is needed for making the kuryr-libnetwork plugins work | 14:12 |
| apuimedo | mchiappero: we'll be taking a bit of a new approach in that regards to solve the bad blocking we had recently | 14:12 |
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| apuimedo | if something is needed for kuryr-libnetwork. It goes first there, and if we want it in kuryr-kubernetes or fuxi, then it graduates to kuryr-lib | 14:12 |
| apuimedo | so we won't be putting first version stuff to kuryr-lib anymore | 14:13 |
| apuimedo | only stable and used things | 14:13 |
| mchiappero | I agree :) | 14:13 |
| vikasc | thats nice | 14:13 |
| limao_ | +1 | 14:13 |
| ivc_ | +1 | 14:13 |
| irenab | apuimedo: can you please post the kuryr policies somewhere? | 14:13 |
| apuimedo | #info kuryr-lib is now where code goes when it is mature and usable in other parts, never again first implementations | 14:13 |
| apuimedo | irenab: it is now in the log and summary of this weekly, I'll update it in the kuryr-lib repo later today or tomorrow | 14:14 |
| apuimedo | #action apuimedo to update the repo policy for kuryr-lib | 14:14 |
| apuimedo | #topic kuryr-libnetwork | 14:14 |
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| irenab | apuimedo: thanks | 14:14 |
| apuimedo | irenab: thanks to you for the reminder! | 14:14 |
| apuimedo | irenab: please, switch the vote on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361993/28 | 14:15 |
| apuimedo | we need to merge it | 14:15 |
| apuimedo | and then do a bugfix release | 14:15 |
| apuimedo | #info ltomasbo posted the vlan subports management patch https://review.openstack.org/402462 that uses the kuryr-lib vlan code | 14:15 |
| irenab | apuimedo: will check | 14:16 |
| apuimedo | please, let's get this reviewed soon | 14:16 |
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| apuimedo | and after the kuryr-lib release, this and https://review.openstack.org/400365 https://review.openstack.org/394547 will be taken out of WIP and considered for merging | 14:16 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403325/ | 14:16 |
| irenab | apuimedo: I just have one general comment regarding the two patches you posted | 14:16 |
| apuimedo | vikasc: irenab: let's get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399958/ merged | 14:17 |
| apuimedo | this will improve our test stability | 14:17 |
| apuimedo | thanks limao_ for that one | 14:17 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, sure | 14:17 |
| apuimedo | vikasc: irenab: also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402537/ | 14:18 |
| apuimedo | irenab: go ahead | 14:18 |
| mchiappero | I will rebase https://review.openstack.org/394547 later today to be able to merge soon | 14:18 |
| irenab | for my general comments, I understand the urgency of adding new functionality, but it should not come on the cost of having less maintainable code | 14:18 |
| apuimedo | mchiappero: when they are not missing stuff, take out the [wip] tag too | 14:18 |
| mchiappero | I'll do while rebasing | 14:18 |
| apuimedo | irenab: I agree. This is only to be merged with the understanding that we are making a point release fixing where this code is loaded | 14:18 |
| irenab | addingcases per specific drivers in the common controller is not the way to go | 14:19 |
| apuimedo | and the next release will move to the new plugin style that kuryr-kubernetes is pioneering | 14:19 |
| apuimedo | irenab: agreed | 14:19 |
| irenab | apuimedo: thanks | 14:19 |
| apuimedo | drivers, as mchiappero has been advocating, have to be chosen by kuryr-libentwork and kuryr-kubernets, not loaded by the library | 14:19 |
| apuimedo | so we are going to fix that for sure :-) | 14:20 |
| irenab | apuimedo: sounds like we should maintain the list of issue to fix :-) | 14:20 |
| apuimedo | limao_: irenab: please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403325/2 | 14:20 |
| mchiappero | about this | 14:20 |
| apuimedo | irenab: yes. We have to file bugs for this and mark them for the release | 14:20 |
| apuimedo | #action apuimedo to mark the bugs for the milestone releases | 14:21 |
| mchiappero | most if not all (I'm not sure though) of the code for the port drivers could be promoted to kuryr-lib actually | 14:21 |
| limao_ | ok | 14:21 |
| mchiappero | I like the approach | 14:21 |
| mchiappero | I'm not too sure it's actually 100% doable | 14:22 |
| mchiappero | I'm looking for your opinion here | 14:22 |
| irenab | mchiappero: by port driver you mean binding driver? | 14:22 |
| mchiappero | no | 14:22 |
| apuimedo | irenab: port creation | 14:22 |
| irenab | BM vs nested? | 14:23 |
| apuimedo | it's basically the same as the portdriver in kuryr-kubernetes | 14:23 |
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| apuimedo | irenab: that's right | 14:23 |
| mchiappero | I'm not following you anymore, what part is not clear so that I can reply? | 14:23 |
| apuimedo | we will try to move it to the same style as kuryr-kubernetes soon | 14:23 |
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| mchiappero | I'm not following the code in kuryr-kubernetes so I'm not sure about it | 14:23 |
| hongbin | o/ | 14:23 |
| apuimedo | hongbin: you're on time :-) | 14:23 |
| irenab | apuimedo: shounds like the topic for vistual summit/sprint | 14:24 |
| apuimedo | mchiappero: basically the idea is that for each neutron resource | 14:24 |
| apuimedo | there are drivers | 14:24 |
| apuimedo | irenab: indeed | 14:24 |
| mchiappero | to recap: irenab you are proposing to get away with the port drivers and move all the code to the binding drivers, right? | 14:24 |
| apuimedo | (using stevedore) | 14:24 |
| irenab | mchiappero: no, not yet at least | 14:24 |
| apuimedo | and there are defaults, of course | 14:24 |
| irenab | dinding is different from create,so we may have 2 different group of drivers | 14:25 |
| mchiappero | irenab: ok, so I misunderstood, maybe you were referring to some code in the port drivers specifically (if so, which one?)? | 14:25 |
| apuimedo | there's neutron resource drivers | 14:25 |
| apuimedo | and then binding drivers | 14:25 |
| apuimedo | which in the future should use os-vif with some extensions (since os-vif doesn't have vlan/ipvlan/macvlan) | 14:25 |
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| irenab | so the plan for now, keep binding part in the kury lib and the port create part in the libnetwork? | 14:26 |
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| mchiappero | ok, I'm afraid I'm not able to follow, I'm sorry :( | 14:26 |
| irenab | mchiappero: I may need to take a look on libnetwork code again to answer you | 14:27 |
| lmdaly | also are we agreed that the port driver code should be refactored to have an abstract class with drivers that provide the implementation or leave the code as is? | 14:27 |
| ivc_ | irenab, apuimedo, not to derail the discussion, but we are going to refactor the kuryr-lib binding part to use os-vif VIF objects after it matures in kuryr-k8s, right? | 14:27 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: exactly | 14:27 |
| apuimedo | we are going to mature it in kuryr-kubernetes | 14:27 |
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| apuimedo | then see how we can use it in kuryr-libnetwork | 14:28 |
| irenab | the question is what we currently decide for libnetwork | 14:28 |
| apuimedo | and when that is clear, it moves from kuryr-kubernetes to kuryr-libnetwork and both kuryr-kubernetes and kuryr-libnetwork move to use it | 14:28 |
| mchiappero | somehow the port drivers in many cases just forward straight to kuryr-lib binding drivers, so I guess you meant to move that code directly there and get away with the port drivers | 14:28 |
| apuimedo | irenab: currently we implement what is missing in kuryr-lib in kuryr-libnetwork | 14:28 |
| irenab | current code is getting messed with specific type ==xxx even though we have drivers | 14:28 |
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| mchiappero | irenab: some checks for IPVLAN will be removed | 14:29 |
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| mchiappero | ok, if you want we can go through the code again and make a decision offline, but we do need to know which direction is the preferred one here | 14:30 |
| irenab | mchiappero: its now more relevant for nested support being added in the libnetowrk controller | 14:30 |
| irenab | mchiappero: agree | 14:30 |
| vikasc | imo, we should wait on introducing new drivers abstraction and see how resource drivers mature in kuryr-k8s | 14:30 |
| irenab | apuimedo: so for now libnetwork should not use kuryr-lib drivers? | 14:31 |
| mchiappero | ok, so let's move on no, but please let's continue later so that we can make progress, thank you | 14:31 |
| apuimedo | irenab: only if they can be used as is | 14:31 |
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| apuimedo | mchiappero: thanks! | 14:31 |
| apuimedo | #topic fuxi | 14:31 |
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| ivc_ | irenab, apuimedo, so granted that we expect a major binding/VIF driver refactor (prolly in P cycle), imo it should be ok to merge kuryr-lib/kuryr-libnetwork stuff as long as it works and is not _too_ ugly :) | 14:31 |
| mchiappero | they can, probably will need some changes in the future, but they can | 14:31 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: yes. That's the idea, merge what we have in the queue now | 14:32 |
| apuimedo | hongbin: you have the floor | 14:32 |
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| irenab | ivc_: the problem is that it is ugly … | 14:32 |
| apuimedo | #chair hongbin | 14:32 |
| openstack | Current chairs: apuimedo hongbin | 14:32 |
| hongbin | fuxi? | 14:32 |
| apuimedo | irenab: beauty is on the eye of the beholder :P | 14:32 |
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| apuimedo | hongbin: right | 14:32 |
| hongbin | ok, i briefly report the status of the fuxi project last week | 14:32 |
| apuimedo | thanks | 14:33 |
| hongbin | there is a patch for setup the devstack plugin for fuxi | 14:33 |
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| apuimedo | hongbin: first, let me apologize for not getting through the reviews. I've seen the new patches you posted | 14:33 |
| apuimedo | but I want to try the devstack myself before I approve | 14:33 |
| hongbin | apuimedo: np, takes your time | 14:33 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402244/ | 14:33 |
| hongbin | here you go | 14:33 |
| hongbin | welcome everytone to try it, and provide feedback | 14:34 |
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| hongbin | this week, i will try to setup the CI | 14:34 |
| hongbin | first, add some functional tests, then submit a patch to project-config to have a test | 14:34 |
| hongbin | that is all from me | 14:34 |
| apuimedo | sounds great hongbin! | 14:35 |
| hongbin | apuimedo: thanks for pinging me to give an update | 14:35 |
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| apuimedo | #action hongbin to set up CI using his devstack patches for fux | 14:35 |
| apuimedo | *fuxi | 14:35 |
| apuimedo | crap, i screwed the action point :( | 14:35 |
| apuimedo | #topic kuryr-kubernetes | 14:35 |
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| ivc_ | well, we've completed the controller side of port binding last week (thnx apuimedo, irenab, vikasc for reviews) | 14:36 |
| apuimedo | #info irenab and ivc_ have updated the kuryr-kubernetes devref draft document. I highly recommend it: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hExm0TNp_OMWY_XMVRYpSvg5G8kFrL5hcrT9M_NDCwo/edit?usp=sharing | 14:36 |
| vikasc | better late than never, its very useful doc :) | 14:37 |
| ivc_ | there's also a PoC CNI driver somewhere in that devref comments (tho i encourage you not to try it yet) | 14:37 |
| apuimedo | #info the controller side of port handling was merged last week | 14:37 |
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| apuimedo | ivc_: share the link, there's brave and crazy people here :P | 14:37 |
| ivc_ | also there's a link to CNI design decisions diagram in that devref (in .xmind format) | 14:37 |
| ivc_ | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/590658/ | 14:38 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: thanks! | 14:38 |
| vikasc | thanks ivc_ | 14:38 |
| ivc_ | the code is *bad* and not intended for someone to look at it, but whatever :) | 14:38 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: don't worry too much, I'll just merge it and... | 14:39 |
| irenab | ivc_: but it works :-) | 14:39 |
| apuimedo | xD | 14:39 |
| ivc_ | so right now i'm working on a clean implementation that follows the design decisions (see .xmind doc in devref comments) | 14:39 |
| apuimedo | #action ivc_ to post the non-ugly version of the CNI driver WIP | 14:39 |
| ivc_ | eta - this week | 14:39 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: great | 14:40 |
| apuimedo | after that I think vikasc and ltomasbo will be trying to get it to work with nested ports | 14:40 |
| ivc_ | also we got an issue with devstack due to the release of kuryr-lib | 14:40 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, right!! | 14:40 |
| apuimedo | there's two sides that need to be done, a vif port driver | 14:40 |
| ivc_ | so we need to fix requirements.txt to point to kuryr-lib release instead of git | 14:40 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, i am on it now | 14:41 |
| apuimedo | and the CNI part (as os-vif doesn't have yet what it takes) | 14:41 |
| irenab | ivc_: is there a bug? | 14:41 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: after we make today's release published yes | 14:41 |
| ivc_ | irenab, nope. but the fix is trivial | 14:41 |
| ivc_ | irenab, i'm just waiting for an updated kuryr-lib release :) | 14:41 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: as soon as irenab swaps the vote on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361993/ I'll request a release | 14:42 |
| apuimedo | and then I'll send the patch for requirements | 14:42 |
| mchiappero | please irenab :P | 14:42 |
| ivc_ | ok, cool | 14:42 |
| apuimedo | no pressure :P | 14:42 |
| ivc_ | like at all :P | 14:43 |
| irenab | apuimedo: you are twisting my arm | 14:43 |
| apuimedo | /¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 14:43 |
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| irenab | apuimedo: I really cannot +2 this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361993/28/kuryr/lib/segmentation_type_drivers/__init__.py .. | 14:43 |
| mchiappero | stock market might fall if we don't release soon :P | 14:43 |
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| apuimedo | it will be like brexit and trump combined | 14:44 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 14:44 |
| mchiappero | release! :P | 14:44 |
| apuimedo | anyway | 14:44 |
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| irenab | vikasc: lets compromise, put huge REVISIT comment on top of this if clause | 14:44 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: anything else? | 14:44 |
| apuimedo | irenab: +1 | 14:44 |
| ivc_ | apuimedo, nope | 14:44 |
| vikasc | sure irenab :) | 14:44 |
| apuimedo | very well | 14:44 |
| apuimedo | #topic open discussion | 14:45 |
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| irenab | have to go, enjoy the rest of the meeting | 14:45 |
| apuimedo | I'm considering begging for a room for a developer meetup in Atlanta in case some people do go | 14:45 |
| ivc_ | apuimedo, irenab, tho that __init__.py irenab linked does look kinda ugly, i must agree :) | 14:45 |
| apuimedo | irenab: remember to check later for the revisit update and +2 :P | 14:45 |
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| apuimedo | so, if any of you go, let's meet up! | 14:46 |
| apuimedo | anything else from anybody? | 14:46 |
| alraddarla_ | any easy tasks a new comer can take care of for you? | 14:46 |
| apuimedo | alraddarla_: kubernetes or libnetwork? | 14:47 |
| limao_ | [openstack-dev] [kuryr] - stable release for mitaka or newton | 14:47 |
| alraddarla_ | libnetwork for now, but i'd like to look into both eventually | 14:47 |
| apuimedo | ok | 14:47 |
| limao_ | there are a mail asking about stable release for M or N | 14:47 |
| apuimedo | oh, that's right | 14:48 |
| apuimedo | the first stable release will be *sorta Newton, as in we'll release it probably in a week or two | 14:48 |
| mchiappero | yes, I have an open actually regarding this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397640/ | 14:48 |
| mchiappero | I'm not completely sure about the cause of the failure of the unit tests | 14:49 |
| apuimedo | alraddarla_: ping me later and I'll try to check the outstanding bugs for low hanging fruit | 14:49 |
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| alraddarla_ | sounds good, thank you apuimedo | 14:49 |
| mchiappero | on some machines it seems to succeed, there it fails | 14:49 |
| apuimedo | a heisenbug | 14:49 |
| apuimedo | #action apuimedo to check what's up with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397640/ gates | 14:50 |
| mchiappero | could be, I'm not too sure about the injected values, it seems like sometimes mox uses a config file | 14:50 |
| apuimedo | limao_ can probably find out easily | 14:50 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 14:50 |
| mchiappero | thank you! | 14:50 |
| limao_ | :) | 14:50 |
| apuimedo | alraddarla_: oh, this reminds me! dropping mox for mock is doing $DEITY's work | 14:50 |
| apuimedo | so... there's that boring task to get acquainted with the code and ridding us of mox forever and banishing to the hades | 14:51 |
| apuimedo | anything else? | 14:51 |
| mchiappero | I don't want to steal time here, but if you want we can return back to the driver thing :) | 14:51 |
| ivc_ | mchiappero, i think we can do it in #openstack-kuryr, i doubt we can cover it in 5 minutes here | 14:52 |
| mchiappero | so, priority #1 is to avoid pushing requirements/changes in kuryr-lib, right? | 14:52 |
| apuimedo | mchiappero: please, read https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hExm0TNp_OMWY_XMVRYpSvg5G8kFrL5hcrT9M_NDCwo/edit?usp=sharing and then ping us on #openstack-kuryr | 14:52 |
| apuimedo | mchiappero: no. it's making the release, then merging your patches | 14:53 |
| alraddarla_ | apuimedo: i can handle that | 14:53 |
| mchiappero | apuimedo: ok I'll do | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | and doing all that while not touching kuryr-lib except for cleanups | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | *and bugfixes) | 14:53 |
| ivc_ | mchiappero, if you got any question about kuryr-k8s, ping me on irc or we can arrange another videoconf | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: good point | 14:53 |
| mchiappero | yes, that was my understanding, so no changes to interfaces in kuryr-lib | 14:53 |
| mchiappero | ivc_: ok, thank you! | 14:54 |
| apuimedo | mchiappero: exactly | 14:54 |
| apuimedo | alright. Thank you all for joining today! Have a great rest of day! | 14:54 |
| apuimedo | #endmeeting | 14:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 28 14:54:27 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-11-28-14.01.html | 14:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-11-28-14.01.txt | 14:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-11-28-14.01.log.html | 14:54 |
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| sigmavirus | #startmeeting craton | 14:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 28 14:59:45 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sigmavirus. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: craton)" | 14:59 | |
| sigmavirus | #chair jimbaker | 14:59 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'craton' | 14:59 |
| openstack | Current chairs: jimbaker sigmavirus | 14:59 |
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| jimbaker | o/ | 15:00 |
| jimbaker | sulo, sigmavirus, hope you had a nice weekend | 15:01 |
| sigmavirus | I did and I hope you did too jimbaker | 15:01 |
| * sigmavirus goes off in search of our agenda | 15:02 | |
| sigmavirus | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/craton-meetings | 15:02 |
| sigmavirus | Looks like there's no agenda for today | 15:02 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, ahh, agendas... we have been working off a standing development agenda | 15:03 |
| jimbaker | issues that what are working on this week | 15:03 |
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| sigmavirus | Let's add that to the meeting etherpad then :) | 15:03 |
| sigmavirus | (later) | 15:03 |
| sigmavirus | #action jimbaker to fill out meeting etherpad with generic meeting schedule | 15:03 |
| jimbaker | #action jimbaker adds standing agenda to craton-meetings etherpad | 15:03 |
| jimbaker | yep that will do | 15:03 |
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| jimbaker | so let's go through the forthcoming week | 15:04 |
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| jimbaker | sulo, i know you were planning to look at workflows again | 15:05 |
| jimbaker | anything else on your plate? | 15:05 |
| sulo | yep, just stated that today | 15:05 |
| jimbaker | (also do ask my help on that patch i gave you re workflow modeling) | 15:05 |
| sulo | na i think ill concentrate on that for now | 15:05 |
| jimbaker | (as necessary of course) | 15:05 |
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| sulo | yep, sure, will do | 15:06 |
| jimbaker | sulo, we can get back into the details, but workflow is a big enough chunk to mull upon :) | 15:06 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, any updates on the forthcoming week? | 15:06 |
| sigmavirus | Well I'm out starting Wednesday | 15:07 |
| sigmavirus | So I'm going to try to do some more tidying aroudn the client and UX improvements | 15:07 |
| sigmavirus | Might take over some of Harry's reviews for him while I"m here | 15:07 |
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| sigmavirus | (if they need taking over) | 15:07 |
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| jimbaker | sigmavirus, thanks for the reminder, and sounds like a good plan. you will be back next monday? | 15:07 |
| sigmavirus | Yes I will | 15:07 |
| sulo | sigmavirus: ah right .. i think i have a few -1s there that need tyding up | 15:07 |
| sigmavirus | And will be around most of December except the around Christmas | 15:08 |
| sigmavirus | sulo: good, I'll look at those | 15:08 |
| sulo | thanks | 15:08 |
| jimbaker | cool. speaking of such things: i will be out the last 2 weeks of december | 15:08 |
| sulo | same .. i am out from the 12th | 15:08 |
| sigmavirus | great | 15:08 |
| sulo | but i will be online of and on | 15:08 |
| sigmavirus | I'm out starting teh friday before Christmas | 15:08 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus can run what will be the very short meeting here when he's around ;) | 15:09 |
| sulo | heh this is going to be a slow month :) | 15:09 |
| jimbaker | indeed it is | 15:09 |
| jimbaker | we will have to account accordingly on the roadmap | 15:09 |
| jimbaker | which i don't think really gets impacted | 15:09 |
| jimbaker | my turn | 15:09 |
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| jimbaker | friday i got most of the rbac modeling done within the database. so i have something that's working in terms of assigning roles to arbitrary resources in our model | 15:10 |
| jimbaker | there's more to rbac than that, but this was the piece that's really specific to craton | 15:11 |
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| jimbaker | in particular, one can use an object's resolution_order to describe the scope of a role | 15:12 |
| jimbaker | eg, if the role fleet:may-do-X is assigned to a region, then any device in that region has that role | 15:12 |
| jimbaker | i've been working out implications for other aspects. so being able to do stuff like, a workflow can be created by one user ("developer"), then is assigned to a region by another ("authorizer"), and then is run by an operator | 15:14 |
| jimbaker | so this gets setuid like qualities | 15:15 |
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| jimbaker | but such implication will be seen in the corresponding policy.json that we construct | 15:16 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, i hope you don't mind the mixin approach. but it's really very similar to what was done with variables :) | 15:17 |
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| jimbaker | sulo, i was revisiting governance considerations | 15:19 |
| sigmavirus | jimbaker: I haven't seen it, so it's hard to object | 15:19 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, excellent! :) | 15:19 |
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| jimbaker | sigmavirus, really it's just a triple (resource, principal, role) - the only subtleties are doing the search path with resolution_order; and making it a mixin via a polymorphic association | 15:20 |
| jimbaker | but both follow the approach we have already done with respect to variables | 15:20 |
| sigmavirus | okay | 15:20 |
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| jimbaker | sulo, https://github.com/NerdWalletOSS/versionalchemy is one aspect of governance | 15:21 |
| jimbaker | re auditing | 15:21 |
| syed__ | o/ | 15:21 |
| jimbaker | that we might want to look at either using, or least seeing if there's something worth borrowing in terms of approach | 15:21 |
| jimbaker | syed__, hi | 15:22 |
| jimbaker | we were just talking about rbac | 15:22 |
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| syed__ | Hi jim, i hope everyone is doing fine | 15:22 |
| jimbaker | so i have worked out the db modeling we need (or at least i think i did); and have enough insight to finalize the blueprint | 15:22 |
| syed__ | Thats great | 15:22 |
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| jimbaker | any rbac will be a combination of stuff we model in the database; additional policy rules (policy.json) that do the desired forward chaining; and use of oslo.policy decorators in our rest api | 15:24 |
| sigmavirus | so we're planning to register functions for rules, jimbaker ? | 15:25 |
| jimbaker | perhaps the biggest remaining subtlety is how it interacts with keystone. users looks straightforward, and it's possible that keystone's groups + domains just look like users when we see it | 15:25 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, yeah | 15:25 |
| sigmavirus | jimbaker: did you ever write up the needs/use cases for this rbac? | 15:26 |
| sigmavirus | Also, is there a WIP/POC anywhere with what you have? | 15:26 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, part of the investigation | 15:26 |
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| jimbaker | and here's the relevant gist of my WIP for db modeling - https://gist.github.com/jimbaker/6a4fd7e07a16a318a45d7d1d96819040 | 15:26 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, we don't have detailed requirements here. i'm hoping that our discussion with dusty will help precipitate that | 15:27 |
| sigmavirus | cool. | 15:27 |
| sigmavirus | jimbaker: should we let syed__ provide updates? | 15:27 |
| sulo | so just to be clear .. i am not sure i am follwing the rbac thing btw | 15:27 |
| jimbaker | the discussion has been "we need rbac" | 15:27 |
| sulo | like what are we trying to rbac ? | 15:28 |
| sulo | is it every resource ? | 15:28 |
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| jimbaker | sulo, we need to rbac every resource. the question is, what does that actually mean :) | 15:29 |
| sulo | i guess thats what my question is | 15:29 |
| jimbaker | sulo, so i'm working on the assumption that we need to divide below the level of a given project | 15:29 |
| jimbaker | and the easiest way to model this is to use the idea of triples | 15:30 |
| jimbaker | so for a given resource, principal pairing, we can have a set of roles | 15:30 |
| jimbaker | because it would be tedious to assign roles for any resource, we need to have some way of providing scope | 15:31 |
| jimbaker | for a little further clarity: a principal - this follows what gus observed back in the spring - would be users or workflows | 15:32 |
| jimbaker | we can obviously model this a number of ways, including have a workflow subclass a user. whatever makes the most sense | 15:33 |
| jimbaker | sulo, hopefully that adds some clarity | 15:34 |
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| sulo | yeah, makes a bit more sense | 15:34 |
| sigmavirus | jimbaker: so I have questions based off of what you said, but I'd like to let syed__ fill us in on what he's done | 15:34 |
| sigmavirus | and doing | 15:34 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, agreed - wanted to close one question out a bit | 15:35 |
| jimbaker | syed__, your turn. what are you working on this week? | 15:35 |
| jimbaker | the other question is, do you have any vacation plans in december? | 15:35 |
| syed__ | I will be working over craton endpoint for network tests | 15:36 |
| syed__ | And craton client stuff, i have been digging into rbac little bit | 15:36 |
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| syed__ | Will close things up in ny court in this week | 15:36 |
| syed__ | I have to make sure the schema we are using for craton is same as client | 15:37 |
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| jimbaker | syed__, how does rbac impact the client? | 15:37 |
| syed__ | I have not yet fully looked into that. I believe once blueprint is out there will help me get my mind around how we are approaching rbac for craton | 15:38 |
| jimbaker | i would assume this is just a question of handling 401 | 15:38 |
| jimbaker | "not authorized" | 15:38 |
| syed__ | I really dont know about that ... but i guess so | 15:38 |
| jimbaker | syed__, no worries, just want to make sure there's not something i haven't considered | 15:39 |
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| syed__ | Adding tests for routes/schemas is also what i will be doing today | 15:39 |
| jimbaker | i know for sure that i don't know enough yet about the subtleties of keystone's domain/group model, and implications for integration with craton | 15:39 |
| jimbaker | syed__, sounds good | 15:40 |
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| jimbaker | sigmavirus, one other topic that came up in #craton earlier today | 15:42 |
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| jimbaker | just wanted to follow up on openstack client plugin, or not | 15:43 |
| jimbaker | sulo, any thoughts on that? | 15:43 |
| sulo | i dont know much about openstack client and its plugin structure etc .. tbh | 15:44 |
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| sulo | never used it, so will have to read up on it etc | 15:44 |
| jimbaker | sulo, i had not investigated either. i was just curious why keystoneclient cli for example was deprecated | 15:44 |
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| jimbaker | i haven't had a chance to properly vet | 15:45 |
| jimbaker | but it seems to me that if we could support the plugin, it could be worthwhile. oth, people care more about shade, right? | 15:46 |
| jimbaker | for actual usage | 15:46 |
| jimbaker | in all such cases, i would assume the underlying python client code is the foundation... | 15:47 |
| palendae | openstack-client was part of a push to have a unified user interface for openstack | 15:47 |
| sigmavirus | jimbaker: so I think you're frankly confusing a bunch of different projects | 15:47 |
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| sigmavirus | palendae: is correct, and it's not designed for administrators iirc | 15:47 |
| sigmavirus | it's designed for end users of the cloud | 15:47 |
| sigmavirus | as I understand it, cratonclient is designed for the administrators of a cloud | 15:47 |
| sigmavirus | shade is also designed for end users of MANY clouds | 15:47 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, correct about our target users | 15:48 |
| sulo | sigmavirus: yeah, so thats completely differnt then | 15:48 |
| sigmavirus | e.g., Rackspace Public Cloud, Rackspace Private Cloud, and other openstack public cloud | 15:48 |
| sigmavirus | Shade hides incompatibilities in all three behind a common interface | 15:48 |
| sigmavirus | So when Glance actually lands image creation code that RAX pub cloud could use, then shade will use that for Rackspace Public, and use the regular PUT calls for everything else | 15:48 |
| palendae | And only exposes some of the functionality | 15:48 |
| sigmavirus | (because literally no one else has problems with PUTing image data to glance) | 15:49 |
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| jimbaker | but to further confuse things, we are now looking at admin of non openstack clouds :) | 15:49 |
| sigmavirus | palendae: correct | 15:49 |
| palendae | From their docs: "shade is a simple client library for interacting with OpenStack clouds. The key word here is simple. Clouds can do many many many things - but there are probably only about 10 of them that most people care about with any regularity. If you want to do complicated things, you should probably use the lower level client libraries - or even the REST API directly." | 15:49 |
| jimbaker | palendae, yes | 15:49 |
| sigmavirus | jimbaker: all the more reason not to try to integrate with OpenStack cilent as the CLI portion of cratonclient | 15:49 |
| sigmavirus | People who might use Craton to manage an AWS cloud probably don't want to download the 50 dependencies of OpenStackClient | 15:49 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, just asking questions here :) | 15:50 |
| sigmavirus | They just want the 5-10 cratonclient deps :) | 15:50 |
| palendae | jimbaker: While the multi-cloud thing is worth staying cognizant of, I think it's also better to get something working first | 15:50 |
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| sigmavirus | == palendae | 15:50 |
| jimbaker | and that makes perfect sense. you would get a quite a bundle | 15:50 |
| jimbaker | palendae, sigmavirus, i understand. trust me, i'm going to try to push that work to ecosystem | 15:51 |
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| sigmavirus | jimbaker: sure, I just really don't think that OSC is where craton's commands live | 15:52 |
| sigmavirus | We can make our commands *better* by mimicking their UX if we want to | 15:52 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, ack. better UX is a good thing | 15:52 |
| jimbaker | what that specifically is, TBD | 15:52 |
| jimbaker | so some conclusions then | 15:53 |
| jimbaker | 1. let's continue our craton client CLI work as is | 15:53 |
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| jimbaker | 2. if of interest, it should be a straightforward ecosystem task to add an openstackclient plugin, built on this work - especially the underlying python client code | 15:54 |
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| jimbaker | palendae, sigmavirus, sulo - sounds reasonable? | 15:54 |
| palendae | Sure, if someone wants it in openstackclient they can do that work themselves. But I'm inclined to agree with sigmavirus that they have different audiences | 15:55 |
| jimbaker | (ecosystem task is a term of art where we get someone else to do the work...) | 15:55 |
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| sigmavirus | jimbaker: yeah, the person who wants it there can write that code | 15:56 |
| sigmavirus | I don't think it will ever fit in there though | 15:56 |
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| jimbaker | sure. it's the only reasonable way to build out this project. not just being glib here :) | 15:56 |
| jimbaker | just a few minutes left in our scheduled time | 15:57 |
| jimbaker | any other questions/concerns before we move back to #craton ? | 15:58 |
| sigmavirus | Any reviews people should prioritize this week? | 15:58 |
| jimbaker | that is a great question | 15:59 |
| jimbaker | let's discuss on #craton, time to end this specific meeting | 15:59 |
| sulo | sigmavirus: the one on tests ;) | 15:59 |
| jimbaker | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 28 15:59:46 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/craton/2016/craton.2016-11-28-14.59.html | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/craton/2016/craton.2016-11-28-14.59.txt | 15:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/craton/2016/craton.2016-11-28-14.59.log.html | 15:59 |
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| jroll | Sukhdev: shall we? | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | Folks - time for Ironic-Neutron meeting | 16:01 |
| jroll | \o/ | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | jroll : yup | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | #startmeeting ironic_neutron | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 28 16:01:33 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic_neutron' | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron#Meeting_November_28.2C_2016 | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | jroll : any announcements? | 16:02 |
| jroll | I have none | 16:02 |
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| jroll | did security groups land/ | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | yup | 16:03 |
| jroll | nice | 16:03 |
| jroll | \o/ | 16:03 |
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| jroll | Sukhdev: shall we continue? | 16:07 |
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| sukhdev_ | Sorry I lost power | 16:07 |
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| sukhdev | Wifi is out. On cell phone now | 16:08 |
| jroll | :/ | 16:09 |
| sukhdev | I will upload the documentation patch later today | 16:09 |
| jroll | cool | 16:09 |
| jroll | sukhdev: want me to take over the meeting? :) | 16:09 |
| sukhdev | Can you please? | 16:09 |
| jroll | ya | 16:10 |
| jroll | #topic Security Groups for Baremetal deployments | 16:10 |
| jroll | since we're on it already :) | 16:10 |
| jroll | sukhdev: oh, can you #chair jroll | 16:10 |
| sukhdev | #chair Kroll | 16:10 |
| jroll | sambetts: are you here btw? | 16:10 |
| sukhdev | Oops | 16:11 |
| sambetts | o/ sorry in downstream meeting | 16:11 |
| sukhdev | #chair jroll | 16:11 |
| jroll | cool | 16:11 |
| jroll | thanks sukhdev | 16:11 |
| jroll | #topic Security Groups for Baremetal deployments | 16:11 |
| jroll | openstack: wut r u doin | 16:11 |
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| jroll | sukhdev: /nick Sukhdev | 16:14 |
| jroll | and then #chair jroll | 16:14 |
| sambetts | the nicks have to match, I hit that problem before | 16:14 |
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| Sukhdev | #chair jroll | 16:16 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Sukhdev jroll | 16:16 |
| jroll | woo. | 16:16 |
| jroll | #topic Security Groups for Baremetal deployments | 16:16 |
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| jroll | ok so | 16:16 |
| jroll | security groups merged | 16:16 |
| jroll | Sukhdev is going to upload a new docs patch this week | 16:16 |
| Sukhdev | Yes | 16:16 |
| jroll | #topic Port Groups | 16:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Port Groups (Meeting topic: ironic_neutron)" | 16:17 | |
| jroll | so the spec update landed | 16:17 |
| jroll | now the code needs review | 16:17 |
| jroll | anything else new here? | 16:17 |
| sambetts | I don't think so, spec update was good :) | 16:17 |
| jroll | cool | 16:17 |
| jroll | #topic Ironic Interface attach API | 16:18 |
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| jroll | I saw this got vasyl's review and sambetts has some updates to make | 16:18 |
| jroll | sambetts: it's a pretty big patch, wonder if it's possible to break it up? | 16:18 |
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| sambetts | I pushed an update this morning, it is large I might be able to split it possibly :/ maybe split driver changes/RPC API/API again ? | 16:19 |
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| jroll | yeah, that was my first thought | 16:19 |
| jroll | if it's painful, don't need to split, but it'll take longer to get reviews | 16:20 |
| sambetts | haha I should revise my words, I meant to push an update this moring, /me forgot to git review... | 16:20 |
| sambetts | just pushed it up | 16:20 |
| Sukhdev_ | :) | 16:20 |
| jroll | cool | 16:21 |
| jroll | anything else here? | 16:21 |
| sambetts | I'll play around and see if I can split it down those boundrys should be pretty strauight forward I hope | 16:21 |
| jroll | cool, thanks | 16:21 |
| sambetts | I assume driver side changes need to be the bottom right? API last? | 16:22 |
| jroll | yeah | 16:22 |
| jroll | inside out :P | 16:22 |
| sambetts | cool | 16:22 |
| jroll | thanks! | 16:22 |
| jroll | #topic VLAN aware Instances spec after aligning with Neutron/Ironic discussion | 16:22 |
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| jroll | not much here, I assume, still on the backburner? | 16:22 |
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| sambetts | still backburner, any reviews on the spec would be nice though | 16:23 |
| jroll | nod | 16:23 |
| Sukhdev_ | I will review it | 16:23 |
| jroll | thanks Sukhdev_ | 16:24 |
| jroll | #topic open discussion | 16:24 |
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| jroll | anything here? | 16:24 |
| Sukhdev_ | one question - | 16:24 |
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| Sukhdev_ | during PTG meetings - are you considering networking sprint as well? | 16:25 |
| jroll | Sukhdev_: I expect the ironic team will talk about networking for some amount of time, if that's what you mean | 16:25 |
| Sukhdev_ | right | 16:25 |
| Sukhdev_ | I registered for it - and will be hopping between neutron and Ironic | 16:25 |
| sambetts | can we organise some overlap between neutron and Ironic? | 16:26 |
| jroll | cool | 16:26 |
| jroll | sambetts: probably | 16:26 |
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| sambetts | just thinking for the features like the neutron notifyer stuff it might be good to have it | 16:26 |
| jroll | yeah, I don't see why not | 16:26 |
| jroll | would be cool to get the neutron side of that done for summit | 16:26 |
| sambetts | cool | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev_ | good | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev_ | nothing else from me | 16:27 |
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| sambetts | me neither | 16:27 |
| jroll | cool | 16:27 |
| jroll | thanks y'all | 16:27 |
| jroll | #endmeeting | 16:27 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 28 16:27:44 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:27 |
| sambetts | o/ | 16:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-11-28-16.01.html | 16:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-11-28-16.01.txt | 16:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-11-28-16.01.log.html | 16:27 |
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| gnuoy | \o | 17:00 |
| thedac | o/ | 17:00 |
| jamespage | o/ | 17:01 |
| coreycb | o/ | 17:01 |
| jamespage | hi folks | 17:01 |
| tinwood | hi | 17:01 |
| * jamespage grabs a short coffee | 17:01 | |
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| wolsen | o/ | 17:01 |
| gnuoy | icey is chair today I think. Lets give him a sec | 17:02 |
| beisner | o/ | 17:03 |
| cargonza | o/ | 17:03 |
| gnuoy | ok, I think icey is a no show | 17:03 |
| tinwood | we can ping him. | 17:03 |
| gnuoy | #startmeeting charms | 17:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 28 17:03:43 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gnuoy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'charms' | 17:03 |
| gnuoy | #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting | 17:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review ACTION points from previous meeting (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:04 | |
| gnuoy | ACTION: gnuoy determine which openstack release the ceilometer micro services will be introduced | 17:04 |
| gnuoy | I did not do that. Carrying forward | 17:04 |
| gnuoy | ACTION: jamespage to identity alternate week slot and get scheduled (carried forward) | 17:04 |
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| jamespage | I have a review raised - needs a fix but lemme check time | 17:04 |
| gnuoy | You did that didn't you James ? ^ | 17:04 |
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| jamespage | Mondays 1000 UTC | 17:05 |
| jamespage | the other monday | 17:05 |
| gnuoy | kk, thanks | 17:05 |
| gnuoy | ACTION: all to read through the charm specs: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/charm-specs/ (carried forward) | 17:05 |
| gnuoy | I have no doubt that everyone has done that | 17:05 |
| gnuoy | so I'll close that | 17:05 |
| gnuoy | ACTION: jamespage allocate days in month for bug squashing. (carried forward) | 17:05 |
| jamespage | failing misreably at that | 17:05 |
| gnuoy | ok, np. I'll carry it forward | 17:06 |
| jamespage | I was going to suggest the first thursday of every month? | 17:06 |
| jamespage | how dows that sound? | 17:06 |
| gnuoy | sure, +1 | 17:06 |
| wolsen | +1 | 17:06 |
| tinwood | +1 | 17:06 |
| thedac | +1 | 17:06 |
| gnuoy | kk, thanks everyone | 17:06 |
| jamespage | ok I'll sen the note | 17:07 |
| gnuoy | #topic State of Development for next Charm Release | 17:07 |
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| gnuoy | anyone have something they'd like to highlight? | 17:07 |
| jamespage | sure we have three new charms inbound | 17:08 |
| gnuoy | that is true | 17:08 |
| jamespage | mistral, trove and murano (thanks gnuoy for raising the pc changes) | 17:08 |
| gnuoy | np | 17:08 |
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| jamespage | and I think tinwood is almost there with manila landing | 17:08 |
| jamespage | \o/ | 17:08 |
| tinwood | yes, manila is about to land | 17:08 |
| beisner | there is the charm-helper update/sync which will be required for ocata support in the non-layer/reactive charms | 17:08 |
| jamespage | oh and I need to loop in the cloudkitty charm developer - I want to get their charm into the project as well | 17:08 |
| jamespage | I'll reply to his mail via the list! | 17:09 |
| gnuoy | I need a pc change to pull in charm templates too fwiw | 17:09 |
| jamespage | gnuoy, ++ pls | 17:09 |
| jamespage | gnuoy, you're about to start on the memcache support for token caching right? | 17:10 |
| gnuoy | Right, I'll be onto that tomorrow I hopw | 17:10 |
| gnuoy | * hope | 17:10 |
| jamespage | \o/ | 17:10 |
| gnuoy | ok, I'm about to move on if anyone wants to jump in before that... | 17:10 |
| gnuoy | #topic High Priority Bugs | 17:11 |
| beisner | we still have an outstanding issue where all src/layer charm repos are gate-blocked on a tox behavior change which now causes missing (undefined) tests to fail. | 17:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "High Priority Bugs (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:11 | |
| beisner | everyone should take a sec and read the last comment here real quick: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399299/ | 17:11 |
| gnuoy | beisner, to we have a pc change up to fix that? | 17:11 |
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| gnuoy | beisner, ah, ok | 17:11 |
| beisner | which seems to say, that we will be forced to add a no-op shim for py27 in the charm repos instead of not-testing-py27 on python3-only charms /o\ | 17:11 |
| gnuoy | It's not ideal but *shrug* | 17:12 |
| tinwood | I'm with gnuoy -- just put a comment in the tox.ini | 17:12 |
| beisner | so although i did get the project configs sorted in a way where we can start moving charms to the python3 only bucket as they're ready, TC isn't there just yet. | 17:12 |
| beisner | duct tape it is /o\ /o\ | 17:13 |
| jamespage | :( | 17:14 |
| gnuoy | We've tripped over some bugs with Juju and secgroups and Juju and volumes. | 17:14 |
| beisner | what the actual.. | 17:14 |
| gnuoy | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1645298 | 17:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1645298 in juju "unable to removed units with attached storage with OpenStack Mitaka" [Undecided,New] | 17:14 |
| gnuoy | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1625624 | 17:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1625624 in juju-core "juju 2 doesn't remove openstack security groups" [Critical,Triaged] | 17:14 |
| gnuoy | seem to be mitaka+ specific | 17:14 |
| gnuoy | Anyone got any others bugs they'd like to highlight? | 17:15 |
| gnuoy | ... | 17:16 |
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| gnuoy | #topic Openstack Events | 17:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Openstack Events (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:16 | |
| jamespage | PTG! | 17:16 |
| gnuoy | jamespage, You've got one on Thursday, right? | 17:16 |
| jamespage | Feb 20th | 17:16 |
| jamespage | oh yes | 17:16 |
| jamespage | OpenStack Meetup in London | 17:16 |
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| jamespage | not speaking about charms specifically but will be doing a lighting talk on LXD containers in OpenStack | 17:17 |
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| tinwood | Sounds good. | 17:17 |
| beisner | jamespage, can you talk py27 retirement with tc as ptl? with our py3 push, we'll need a clear path forward. | 17:17 |
| jamespage | I can | 17:17 |
| jamespage | gnuoy, pls action me | 17:17 |
| beisner | many thanks | 17:17 |
| gnuoy | #action jamespage talk py27 retirement with tc as ptl | 17:18 |
| jamespage | ta | 17:18 |
| gnuoy | #topic Open Discussion | 17:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:18 | |
| beisner | jamespage, "just think of the virtualenvs you won't have to build for no-ops" ;-) | 17:18 |
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| gnuoy | anything to openly discuss before i end the meeting? | 17:20 |
| gnuoy | ... | 17:20 |
| gnuoy | #endmeeting | 17:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:20 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 28 17:20:31 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:20 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2016/charms.2016-11-28-17.03.html | 17:20 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2016/charms.2016-11-28-17.03.txt | 17:20 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2016/charms.2016-11-28-17.03.log.html | 17:20 |
| thedac | thanks, gnuoy | 17:20 |
| tinwood | thanks gnuoy | 17:20 |
| gnuoy | np | 17:20 |
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| jamespage | ta gnuoy | 17:21 |
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| beisner | thanks gnuoy | 17:22 |
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