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| ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 08:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 23 08:00:25 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 08:00 |
| ifat_afek | Hi everyone :-) | 08:00 |
| eyalb | hi | 08:00 |
| idan_hefetz | Hi | 08:00 |
| danoffek | Hi guys | 08:01 |
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| danoffek | I'd like to update first | 08:01 |
| danoffek | It's been a few weeks since the summit. | 08:01 |
| nadav | hi | 08:02 |
| danoffek | We've had a very good Vitrage lab going there | 08:02 |
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| nbloom | hi :) | 08:02 |
| danoffek | still, we can't see any recording of the lab, even though we've been informed that all the labs were recorded. | 08:02 |
| danoffek | We can see all the recordings of the labs in the adjacent room. | 08:03 |
| danoffek | We've sent mails to representatives of the summit, but we didn't get any response yet. | 08:03 |
| danoffek | Does anyone knows of a responsive contact / what is going on with recordings on Barcelona OpenStack Summit Ballroom B ? | 08:04 |
| danoffek | Thanks. | 08:04 |
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| ifat_afek | danoffek: I’ll do my best to help. Not sure who else we can email, but I’ll try to search someone | 08:05 |
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| danoffek | Thanks. Maybe another IRC ? | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | I don’t know if there is any relevant IRC. But may try to find out | 08:05 |
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| danoffek | Some other project who found answerd... | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | or maybe we can email the lecturers of the other sessions that were in that room | 08:06 |
| danoffek | answers | 08:06 |
| danoffek | That's a good idea. | 08:06 |
| danoffek | Thanks. | 08:06 |
| danoffek | I'll look in that direction. | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | Ok | 08:06 |
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| ifat_afek | #topic Status and Updates | 08:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status and Updates (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:06 | |
| ifat_afek | Vitrage official documentations was updated, both the developer guide and the specs. Have a look: | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/vitrage/ | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/vitrage-specs/ | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | Thanks tovin07 for your help! | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | I know there are still things to be improved in the documentation (e.g. in the specs there is Mitaka, Newton and Newton…). Will try to do it later this week. | 08:07 |
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| ifat_afek | Who else wants to update? | 08:08 |
| idan_hefetz | I will update | 08:08 |
| idan_hefetz | We had a problem at the gate due to change of mysql version in the aodh | 08:09 |
| idan_hefetz | we have changed the image on which we run the tempests to xenial so it will be with the new mysql version | 08:09 |
| idan_hefetz | then we had another problem with the heat datasource tempest | 08:10 |
| idan_hefetz | when we try to connect to the heatclient it tells us that we have no endpoint. | 08:10 |
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| idan_hefetz | We need to find out the correct / new way to connect to heatclient, and thats why so far we have put the tempests heat datasource to ignore. | 08:11 |
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| idan_hefetz | If someone can, he is more then welcome to find a solution for this problem, otherwise we will update it soon. | 08:12 |
| idan_hefetz | After that I ahve rechecked all of the commits in gerrit. | 08:12 |
| idan_hefetz | Thats it for now (alexey) | 08:12 |
| ifat_afek | idan_hefetz: are we the only project that experienced this problem with mysql? or is it a known issue? | 08:13 |
| idan_hefetz | we aren't the only one. another project that had the same issue for example is congress. | 08:13 |
| idan_hefetz | the have done the same changed that we did with the gate image | 08:14 |
| ifat_afek | makes sense, they also have an aodh datasource | 08:14 |
| ifat_afek | ok, great | 08:14 |
| idan_hefetz | yeppppp | 08:14 |
| ifat_afek | idan_hefetz: thanks! | 08:14 |
| ifat_afek | Any other update? | 08:14 |
| ifat_afek | ok, that was a short meeting :-) | 08:15 |
| ifat_afek | Goodbye everyone | 08:16 |
| eyalb | bye | 08:16 |
| nbloom | bye | 08:16 |
| ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 08:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 08:16 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 23 08:16:27 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:16 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-11-23-08.00.html | 08:16 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-11-23-08.00.txt | 08:16 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-11-23-08.00.log.html | 08:16 |
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| acabot | #startmeeting watcher | 09:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 23 09:00:32 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is acabot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'watcher' | 09:00 |
| acabot | o/ | 09:00 |
| dtardivel | hi | 09:00 |
| brunograz | o/ | 09:00 |
| seanmurphy | hi guys | 09:00 |
| Yumeng | hi | 09:00 |
| acabot | europe is awake ;-) | 09:01 |
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| acabot | agenda for today #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#11.2F23.2F2016 | 09:01 |
| seanmurphy | i guess the us is preparing for thanksgiving ;-) | 09:01 |
| acabot | seanmurphy : for sure | 09:01 |
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| acabot | so lets start | 09:02 |
| acabot | #topic Announcements | 09:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 09:02 | |
| acabot | #info python-watcher v0.32 & python-watcherclient v0.26 & watcher-dashboard v0.6 have been released for ocata-1 on November 18th | 09:02 |
| acabot | thx everyone for meeting the deadline | 09:03 |
| acabot | #info recap for Barcelona has been sent | 09:03 |
| acabot | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/107623.html | 09:03 |
| acabot | do not hesitate to answer the thread if something is missing | 09:03 |
| acabot | #info a discussion has been started regarding the way we should validate Watcher strategies | 09:03 |
| acabot | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/107402.html | 09:04 |
| acabot | this is an important issue so feel free to send your thoughts about it | 09:04 |
| acabot | on the ML | 09:04 |
| acabot | #info acabot didn't has the time to prepare the trello board for the meeting | 09:04 |
| acabot | sorry for that, I will do it next week | 09:05 |
| alexchadin | hello everyone | 09:05 |
| acabot | hello alex | 09:05 |
| acabot | #info acabot presented Watcher & our big tent journey on November 22nd @openstackdayfrance2016 | 09:05 |
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| acabot | I had 40 attendees | 09:05 |
| alexchadin | great! | 09:06 |
| acabot | #info your OSIC cluster request for testing Watcher has been rejected | 09:06 |
| dtardivel | acabot: why ? | 09:06 |
| acabot | they ask us to request a bare metal env instead of an openstack already deployed | 09:06 |
| seanmurphy | well done on the openstack france presentation | 09:06 |
| acabot | and I dont really want to have to configure OpenStack for our tests | 09:07 |
| seanmurphy | can we get some usage info from osic so we could estimate what gains could be made? | 09:07 |
| acabot | seanmurphy : I need to check that with sballe | 09:08 |
| acabot | seanmurphy : as I dont really know what metrics we can get | 09:08 |
| acabot | my main concern is to take 2 weeks to have an openstack ready with monasca deployed... | 09:08 |
| seanmurphy | one idea that i thought might make sense - (I mentioned it in barca) - was if watcher could publish some usage data from some real systems as a driver for showing what gains are possible | 09:09 |
| acabot | and we can have a cluster for a month max | 09:09 |
| acabot | seanmurphy : yes this is something we planned to do before Barcelona, with the Intel cluster | 09:09 |
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| acabot | seanmurphy : unfortunately it took 7 weeks to have openstack & watcher ready ! | 09:10 |
| seanmurphy | haha - things always take longer than planned ;-) | 09:10 |
| acabot | seanmurphy : so we stopped the experimentation falling back on OSIC node with an openstack already deployed | 09:10 |
| acabot | seanmurphy : but as I said, they want us to deploy openstack as well... | 09:11 |
| alexchadin | acabot: how much servers? | 09:11 |
| acabot | alexchadin : we can have 132 nodes or 66 nodes cluster | 09:12 |
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| acabot | I would suggest to work on improving watcher code until christmas and then ask for a testing env in january | 09:12 |
| acabot | I will check with Intel if they can handle the openstack deployment on the OSIC cluster | 09:13 |
| dtardivel | acabot: from my point of view, we have no choice, we have to run watcher within a medium cluster size, to be able to demonstrate the real gains with watcher | 09:13 |
| acabot | dtardivel : I agree but on bcom side, we wont be able to work on an openstack deployment on OSIC before Xmas | 09:14 |
| dtardivel | acabot: could we find some guys in our teams ready to help us to deploy a OS for our aims ? | 09:14 |
| acabot | #action acabot check with Intel if they could set up a new test environment for Watcher | 09:15 |
| acabot | dtardivel : I will try to find some | 09:15 |
| alexchadin | dtardivel: I have 2 years experience with deploying openstack | 09:15 |
| alexchadin | but only on very small cluster | 09:15 |
| alexchadin | 4-5 machines | 09:15 |
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| dtardivel | alexchadin: 8 machines for me :) | 09:15 |
| alexchadin | without automation tools like ansible, vagrant so on | 09:16 |
| acabot | I think configuring Newton on a 66 nodes env is not that easy ;-) | 09:16 |
| alexchadin | we need some tools to automate it | 09:16 |
| alexchadin | like fuel | 09:16 |
| acabot | s/Newton/Neutron | 09:16 |
| alexchadin | but it is in nearly dead state | 09:16 |
| acabot | let me ask for help next week | 09:17 |
| acabot | #topic Review Action Items | 09:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 09:17 | |
| acabot | Watcher specs | 09:17 |
| acabot | automatic triggering of action plans for AUDIT should now be reviewed and merged | 09:17 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342473/ | 09:17 |
| acabot | alexchadin diga : can we merge it ? | 09:18 |
| alexchadin | I think yes | 09:18 |
| alexchadin | +2 from me | 09:18 |
| acabot | diga ? | 09:18 |
| diga | hi | 09:18 |
| acabot | diga : can we merge your spec ? | 09:19 |
| acabot | nothing to add ? | 09:19 |
| diga | acabot: yesm we can merge the spec | 09:19 |
| acabot | ok thx | 09:19 |
| acabot | #action acabot sballe review and merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342473/ | 09:19 |
| acabot | Define grammar for workload characterization needs a new PS | 09:19 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377100/ | 09:19 |
| acabot | thx seanmurphy for your comments | 09:20 |
| acabot | #action hvprash answer comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377100/ | 09:20 |
| acabot | Define when an action plan is stale/invalid needs final reviews from cores | 09:20 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386293/ | 09:20 |
| acabot | I think this spec looks good | 09:20 |
| acabot | anyone wants to review it before merging ? | 09:21 |
| acabot | #action acabot sballe review and merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386293/ | 09:21 |
| hanrong | +1 | 09:21 |
| acabot | #action hanrong review and merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386293/ | 09:21 |
| acabot | hi hanrong ;-) | 09:21 |
| hanrong | hi, :-D | 09:21 |
| acabot | Audit tag in VM Metadata needs reviews | 09:22 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391374/ | 09:22 |
| acabot | vincentfrancoise did a great addition to this spec | 09:22 |
| acabot | anyone wants to review it ? | 09:22 |
| acabot | I think its now complete | 09:23 |
| dtardivel | acabot: i think vincentfrancoise forgot to update this spec with our latest comments. I will do it. | 09:23 |
| acabot | dtardivel : PS 5 ? | 09:23 |
| alexchadin | I'd like to review it | 09:23 |
| dtardivel | yes i think so. I will check. | 09:23 |
| acabot | #action alexchadin acabot review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391374/ | 09:23 |
| acabot | Add improvements to the planner and workflow mechanisms needs reviews | 09:24 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385871/ | 09:24 |
| acabot | we talked about splitting this spec in 2 | 09:24 |
| acabot | dtardivel : did you talked with alexchadin about it ? | 09:24 |
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| alexchadin | acabot: I talked with vincent about it | 09:25 |
| seanmurphy | i can review 385871 | 09:25 |
| alexchadin | seanmurphy: I appreciate it! | 09:25 |
| dtardivel | acabot: no, this is the position of vincentfrancoise. | 09:25 |
| alexchadin | acabot: In this spec I've described only the first part of BP | 09:26 |
| acabot | alexchadin : ok so should we update the BP description and add a new one ? | 09:26 |
| dtardivel | alexchadin: so only the data model impact ? | 09:26 |
| alexchadin | acabot: the second one, about modifying Applier, would be in the next spec. | 09:26 |
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| acabot | seanmurphy : let me check is the scope is ok before reviewing | 09:26 |
| alexchadin | dtardivel: yes, but we cannot merge it without the second part:) | 09:27 |
| acabot | alexchadin : lets discuss this on our channel | 09:27 |
| alexchadin | so, these two specs cannot exists without each other | 09:27 |
| acabot | #action dtardivel alexchadin acabot sync on openstack-watcher about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385871/ | 09:28 |
| acabot | Moving to Watcher code | 09:28 |
| dtardivel | alexchadin: from vincentfrancoise point of view, we should be able to update the data model and the way the planner will handle new model to make the action plan, without impacting the applier | 09:28 |
| acabot | watcher-notifications-ovo & audit-versioned-notifications-api merged | 09:29 |
| acabot | Documentation for Outlet Temperature Based Strategy looks good and will be merged soon | 09:29 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397411/ | 09:29 |
| acabot | is it the last doc strategy ? | 09:29 |
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| acabot | dtardivel : do we still have strategies without doc ? | 09:30 |
| dtardivel | acabot: not sure | 09:30 |
| dtardivel | acabot: let me check | 09:30 |
| acabot | #action dtardivel check if we have all our strategies documented | 09:31 |
| acabot | centralise config options need reviews | 09:31 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/watcher+branch:master+topic:bp/centralise-config-opts | 09:31 |
| acabot | who wants to review this ? | 09:31 |
| dtardivel | +1 | 09:31 |
| hanrong | +1 | 09:31 |
| acabot | #action dtardivel hanrong review https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/watcher+branch:master+topic:bp/centralise-config-opts | 09:31 |
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| acabot | check the state of action plan needs a new PS | 09:32 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391383/ | 09:32 |
| acabot | #action licanwei answer comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391383/ | 09:32 |
| acabot | Watcher CLI | 09:33 |
| acabot | Add functional tests to watcherclient needs reviews | 09:33 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389181/ | 09:33 |
| dtardivel | +1 | 09:33 |
| acabot | #action dtardivel review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389181/ | 09:33 |
| acabot | #topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion | 09:33 |
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| acabot | #info Ocata-2 is our current target due December 12th | 09:33 |
| acabot | #link https://launchpad.net/watcher/+milestone/ocata-2 | 09:34 |
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| dtardivel | acabot: uniform airflow strategy is not documented | 09:34 |
| acabot | nishi's strategy | 09:35 |
| acabot | I will ask sballe | 09:35 |
| acabot | #action acabot ask sballe for documenting airflow strategy | 09:35 |
| acabot | for ocata-2, we have 9 BPs targeted | 09:36 |
| acabot | please update the delivery field if you already started implementing | 09:36 |
| acabot | hanrong : did you start https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/dynamic-action-description ? | 09:36 |
| hanrong | yes | 09:36 |
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| hanrong | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401111/ | 09:37 |
| acabot | hanrong : ops sorry I missed it | 09:37 |
| hanrong | I submitted today | 09:37 |
| acabot | ok ;-) | 09:37 |
| dtardivel | 36 min ago ;) | 09:38 |
| hanrong | need more discussion | 09:38 |
| acabot | ok | 09:39 |
| acabot | #topic Open discussions | 09:39 |
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| dtardivel | hanrong: I will read your proposition | 09:39 |
| acabot | #undo | 09:39 |
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| acabot | #action dtardivel review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401111/ | 09:39 |
| acabot | #topic Open discussions | 09:40 |
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| acabot | I dont have any topic to discuss today | 09:40 |
| acabot | anyone wants to open one ? | 09:40 |
| Yumeng | I can also do review for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401111/ | 09:40 |
| acabot | #action Yumeng review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401111/ | 09:40 |
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| seanmurphy | we have been setting up monasca to understand resource consumption | 09:41 |
| seanmurphy | as sballe suggested at barca meeting | 09:41 |
| seanmurphy | it’s a pita! | 09:42 |
| acabot | seanmurphy : :-) | 09:42 |
| seanmurphy | brunograz put up a blog post on it | 09:42 |
| acabot | please share it | 09:42 |
| seanmurphy | we’re now thinking that prometheus is a better option | 09:42 |
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| brunograz | #link https://blog.zhaw.ch/icclab/installing-monasca-a-happy-ending-after-much-sadness-and-woe/ | 09:42 |
| alexchadin | seanmurphy: hi:) | 09:42 |
| acabot | I heard also yesterday that prometheus is probably the best option today for monitoring | 09:42 |
| alexchadin | I read your post yesterday and leaved some comments | 09:43 |
| seanmurphy | interestingly, it seems to have little support so far for openstack | 09:43 |
| seanmurphy | canonical are working on it afaik | 09:43 |
| seanmurphy | anyway - it’s just a ‘by the way’ - not core to watcher, i guess but relevant | 09:43 |
| seanmurphy | we did bounce around the idea of embedded a grafana dashboard into watcher on horizon | 09:44 |
| seanmurphy | but we will see how doable it might be | 09:44 |
| acabot | ok | 09:44 |
| acabot | so thx everyone | 09:45 |
| acabot | have a good day/evening | 09:45 |
| dtardivel | promotheus is available on dockey hub: #link https://hub.docker.com/r/prom/prometheus | 09:45 |
| dtardivel | s/dockey/docker | 09:45 |
| seanmurphy | dockey hub - i like it ;-) | 09:45 |
| seanmurphy | yeah - it took 10 mins to set up prometheus to play with | 09:46 |
| seanmurphy | vs days for monasca | 09:46 |
| acabot | # | 09:46 |
| * acabot not surprised ;-) | 09:46 | |
| acabot | thx | 09:47 |
| acabot | #endmeeting | 09:47 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-11-23-09.00.html | 09:47 |
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| alex_xu | #startmeeting nova api | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 23 13:00:04 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova api)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_api' | 13:00 |
| alex_xu | who is here today? | 13:00 |
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| cdent | o/ | 13:01 |
| alex_xu | cdent: good to see you get well | 13:01 |
| cdent | Thanks. I'm not 100% yet but bored, so getting on irc is a thing to do :) | 13:02 |
| alex_xu | emmm....holiday weeks | 13:03 |
| cdent | indeed | 13:03 |
| alex_xu | actually only thing want to talk about is about spec https://review.openstack.org/393205, people get different opionion, probably i will reach johnthetubaguy later to ensure what we should now | 13:04 |
| cdent | I tend to agree with jay: remove the vectors for bad | 13:05 |
| * johnthetubaguy wonders in late | 13:05 | |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: ah, just talk about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393205/ | 13:06 |
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| alex_xu | cdent also tend to jay | 13:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think my problem is that "bad" is relative, in small deployments those queries are quite quick, and folks might be counting on them | 13:06 |
| alex_xu | yea, i'm more afraid to break the api, so tend to johnthetubaguy | 13:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | I wonder if we just make it safe by default, i.e. policy stops them by default? | 13:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | but folks that rely on them can restore the API, if needed | 13:07 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: after we have capabilities discovery? | 13:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | although, that feels a bit like over-engineering | 13:07 |
| cdent | i was just gonna say that | 13:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: I am thinking before we have it, just afterwards it could be discoverable | 13:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | we got direct feedback on this at the summit, from operators saying don't break my searching | 13:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | thats what really worry, feels like we are just ignoring them | 13:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | ... at the same time, we should protect our users from cutting their legs off | 13:09 |
| alex_xu | is it worth an email to get board discussion? | 13:10 |
| cdent | I can't remember we were debating the user query or just the admin query | 13:10 |
| cdent | it seems that on the admin side, perhaps enough rope to hang yourself is okay? | 13:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | thats where I my thinking about policy comes in really | 13:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am OK restricting the user query by default (and I think the operators where too) | 13:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am tempted to just restrict everyone by default, but let you relax it, if you want to take that risk | 13:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | at least for the admins | 13:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | but again, feels overcomplicated, so I don't feel happy with that direction as such | 13:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | but not breaking users can really suck sometimes, maybe this is just one of those time | 13:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | s | 13:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | hmm, we got network delays again, or is everyone just very quiet today? | 13:14 |
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| alex_xu | i'm jus thinking | 13:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | thats allowed I guess :) | 13:14 |
| alex_xu | so....those query parameters already being here for very long time, people should cut their leg many times.... | 13:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: do you think if its clear we protect people by default, that spec seems more reasonable? | 13:15 |
| * cdent has slow brain | 13:15 | |
| cdent | Yeah, if the default is protection, but it can be turned off, that seems likely to make folk happy without totally rejecting the input of operators | 13:16 |
| alex_xu | turned off by policy? | 13:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, off by default in the policy | 13:16 |
| alex_xu | and only off the admin part? | 13:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | it does mean if we missed some things, we can tweak the groups of queries linked to each policy | 13:17 |
| alex_xu | filters won't break the user, it only ignore those filters. it just didn't return expected sliently | 13:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | I duno, I was thinking off by default for everyone | 13:19 |
| alex_xu | sort will break user, the 400 returned | 13:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | hmm, true, I guess this should be ignore using policy | 13:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | based on the overall plan | 13:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | a new microversion could add in the errors to help folks later | 13:20 |
| alex_xu | how about we ignore for invalid sort key? | 13:20 |
| alex_xu | at least it won't break the user. | 13:21 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I think we should ignore the not allowed ones, to be consistent | 13:22 |
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| johnthetubaguy | filters and sorts | 13:22 |
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| alex_xu | or return 403 is enough, most of client should process the case when the request return 403 | 13:23 |
| alex_xu | s/403/401 | 13:24 |
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| johnthetubaguy | unsure | 13:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | that feels inconsistent | 13:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | in the future, we can have a microversion that does what we want, and rejects all input thats not acepted/acceptable | 13:26 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: so break them vs. ignore silently | 13:26 |
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| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: +1 microversion in the future to rejects all and return 400 | 13:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, for now, I think we are choosing silently ignore invalid input, unless its an allowed key that has an invalid value | 13:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | to mirror the old behaviour, as close as we can, in a general way | 13:28 |
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| cdent | the twists and turns we take "to mirror the old behaviour, as close as we can, in a general way" throughout all this stuff are both admirable and depressing | 13:30 |
| cdent | it's a nice quotable phrase too | 13:30 |
| alex_xu | I'm a little tent to the 401 returned, the 401 should be processed by client in general. I'm just afraid we return the result the client didn't expected, then just return a fault result siliently | 13:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, its hard to describe how technical debt mounts up, thats sure a big cause of it | 13:32 |
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| johnthetubaguy | you mean 403? | 13:35 |
| alex_xu | emm....what we return when policy failed? | 13:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think 403 | 13:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | 401 suggests you need a new token I guess? | 13:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | authenticated vs authorised I am assuming? | 13:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | so what do we want to do next? | 13:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | draft a new version of the spec, and see how that looks? | 13:37 |
| alex_xu | yea | 13:37 |
| cdent | yeah 401 is auth req, 403 is you got auth but it ain't no good | 13:37 |
| alex_xu | choice in the main, and write others in the alternative section | 13:37 |
| alex_xu | s/choice/choose one/ | 13:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 13:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | thats fair, feels like a discussion in the alternatives section | 13:38 |
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| alex_xu | #action alex_xu draft a new version of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393205 | 13:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh, one clarification... | 13:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think we agreed that all joined fields and anything that isn't using he same format as returned in the API, can be rejected without policy? | 13:40 |
| alex_xu | I think yes | 13:40 |
| alex_xu | joined fields means 'system_metadata', 'info_cache'...etc | 13:40 |
| alex_xu | the tags isn't in the list | 13:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, stuff not in the instance table directly | 13:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | tags are indexed OK, so that should be fine | 13:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | well, tags are intentionally there, put it that way | 13:41 |
| alex_xu | what about metadata one, it works now, and metadata is the normal user faced data. | 13:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, that one feels like we could stop it via policy for now, as its not very efficient | 13:42 |
| alex_xu | ok, got it | 13:42 |
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| johnthetubaguy | (1) stuff we block that may have worked or caused 500 (silently) (2) stuff we block with policy (silently) (3) stuff we allow for admins only by default (4) stuff we allow for users by default | 13:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think thats the 4 camps they need splitting into | 13:43 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I guess there is (5) stuff not on any of those lists that is ignored silently | 13:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | man this we managed to make this really complicated by taking so long to clear up this mess | 13:44 |
| alex_xu | emm...we block with policy and sliently ignore the invalid parameters. actually the policy equal to a config option | 13:45 |
| alex_xu | policy means it will return 403 | 13:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | it doesn't have to be, in this case its not going to trigger 403, it can in the new microversion | 13:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | now in theory, all the stuff that causes 500s, could trigger 403, but that seems like an even worse mess | 13:46 |
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| alex_xu | yea | 13:47 |
| cdent | what's an even worse mess? | 13:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | having lists of all the things we should reject differently because of what they return today | 13:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | oslo.db blocks a bunch of stuff that triggers 500s | 13:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | its a recent-ish change we didn't notice happen | 13:48 |
| * cdent nods | 13:48 | |
| cdent | It sort of read like you were saying 403s were messier than 500s, so I was confused | 13:49 |
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| alex_xu | so...we have plan now | 13:51 |
| alex_xu | update the spec | 13:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: ah, oops, true | 13:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: sounds good, thank you! | 13:52 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: np | 13:52 |
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| alex_xu | anything more? otherwise let us close the meeting | 13:52 |
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| * cdent nods | 13:53 | |
| alex_xu | ok, i think we back to work now | 13:54 |
| alex_xu | thanks all! | 13:54 |
| alex_xu | cdent: have a good rest | 13:54 |
| alex_xu | #endmeeting | 13:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 23 13:54:20 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-11-23-13.00.html | 13:54 |
| cdent | thank you | 13:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-11-23-13.00.txt | 13:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-11-23-13.00.log.html | 13:54 |
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| ramishra | #startmeeting heat | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 23 15:00:17 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ramishra. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'heat' | 15:00 |
| ramishra | #topic roll call | 15:00 |
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| ricolin | 0/ | 15:01 |
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| therve | Yop | 15:01 |
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| cwolferh | o/ | 15:02 |
| ramishra | hmm.. US guys probably are in holiday mode already:) | 15:02 |
| syjulian | o/ | 15:02 |
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| cwolferh | holiday is so close :-) | 15:03 |
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| ramishra | ok, let's start, it should be quick one | 15:03 |
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| ramishra | #topic adding items to agenda | 15:03 |
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| ramishra | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282016-11-23_1500_UTC.29 | 15:04 |
| ramishra | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282016-11-23_1500_UTC.29 | 15:04 |
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| ramishra | Any more items, we only have one bp to discuss I think. | 15:05 |
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| ramishra | #topic resource type versions | 15:05 |
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| ramishra | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/heat-resource-type-versions | 15:05 |
| ramishra | syjulian: you've added this, right? | 15:06 |
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| syjulian | yes | 15:06 |
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| zaneb | o/ | 15:06 |
| ramishra | hi zaneb | 15:06 |
| ramishra | we discussed that during the summit. | 15:06 |
| ramishra | it looks ok to me. | 15:06 |
| * zaneb blames daylight savings | 15:06 | |
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| ricolin | lol | 15:07 |
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| syjulian | yup. we're kinda wondering how registering would work | 15:07 |
| ramishra | zaneb: you were not present during that discussion, wdyt? | 15:07 |
| ramishra | #link https://review.openstack.org/398601 | 15:08 |
| zaneb | reading now... seems reasonable | 15:08 |
| ricolin | I think it might be a good start to support micro version | 15:09 |
| therve | syjulian, I feel that the problem description is really lacking | 15:09 |
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| therve | It basically says "we don't support version, let's do it" | 15:09 |
| therve | I want to know why we need resouce versions | 15:09 |
| cwolferh | what's the advantage over the resource itself just having an arbitrary my_version property and the resource just knows what to do internally to itself? | 15:10 |
| ricolin | cwolferh: I think current approch is more like allow V1 and V2 share same resource type | 15:12 |
| ramishra | therve: we do lot of hacks err.. translations to be backward compatible. | 15:12 |
| therve | cwolferh, That's one solution not mentioned too, yeah. But you need to keep the property schema compatible if you do that | 15:12 |
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| ramishra | therve: it sould probably mention that. | 15:12 |
| therve | ramishra, Well yeah and that won't solve that? | 15:12 |
| cwolferh | therve, ah, true | 15:12 |
| therve | ramishra, Unless we somehow start to enforce versions, you can't break compatibility | 15:13 |
| ramishra | therve: yeah | 15:13 |
| ramishra | May be should review and put these comments on the spec, however, it would be good to add this. | 15:14 |
| therve | Yeah I'll do that | 15:14 |
| syjulian | yes that will help | 15:15 |
| ramishra | syjulian: I think we would review and provide the comments. | 15:16 |
| therve | syjulian, We're also here to discuss it though :) | 15:16 |
| zaneb | just added some thoughts on the spec | 15:16 |
| therve | Anyway | 15:16 |
| syjulian | gotcha | 15:16 |
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| syjulian | we decided on versions so when a resource has a new version we won't have to register it in a new name | 15:16 |
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| ramishra | it's way to get attention of the reviewers, by adding it to the meeting agenda:) | 15:17 |
| syjulian | it does help :) . thank you guys for looking at it | 15:17 |
| ramishra | should we move on now? | 15:18 |
| ramishra | #topic gate issues | 15:18 |
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| therve | Urg it's bad | 15:19 |
| ramishra | I just thought to give an update on the issues we had in the last few days. | 15:19 |
| ramishra | Number of things broken after the jobs changed to xenial | 15:19 |
| ricolin | heatclient 1.6 current been add to black list | 15:19 |
| ramishra | ricolin: yeah, it had a backward incompatible change, my mistake | 15:20 |
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| ramishra | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401096/ | 15:20 |
| ramishra | we have a new release now and it should merge anytime. | 15:21 |
| ramishra | I mean the global requirement change. | 15:21 |
| ramishra | Things seems to be in control now. | 15:21 |
| ramishra | therve: most of jobs are passing since a few hours;) | 15:22 |
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| therve | ramishra, There are 50% slower for some reasons though | 15:23 |
| ramishra | if someone can help land this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400689/ stable/newton would be fixed. | 15:23 |
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| zaneb | +2'd | 15:24 |
| ramishra | therve: you can self approve;) | 15:24 |
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| therve | ramishra, I don't have stable permissions for some reasons | 15:25 |
| ramishra | skraynev: ^^ | 15:25 |
| zaneb | really? | 15:25 |
| * zaneb will look in to that | 15:25 | |
| zaneb | ramishra: do you not have stable +A permissions either? | 15:26 |
| ricolin | I think Zane can just +workflow and let it land | 15:26 |
| ramishra | therve: it seems issues with some clouds, some of the jobs are finishing in 30-35 mins. | 15:26 |
| ramishra | therve: like this one finished quick https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400961/ | 15:27 |
| therve | ramishra, Okay we'll see :) | 15:27 |
| zaneb | I thought https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/152,members was the only group needed. | 15:28 |
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| zaneb | oh ho https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/536,members | 15:28 |
| zaneb | I cant edit though :/ | 15:28 |
| ramishra | ok, let's move on. | 15:29 |
| ramishra | #topic placeholder | 15:29 |
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| ramishra | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/implement-placeholder | 15:29 |
| ramishra | ricolin: stage is yours;) | 15:30 |
| ricolin | Need some review on that BP | 15:30 |
| zaneb | yeah, I need to find some time to have a look | 15:31 |
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| ramishra | ricolin: ok just reviews:) | 15:31 |
| ricolin | yep | 15:31 |
| zaneb | ricolin: there isn't a spec for this, right? | 15:32 |
| ricolin | Maybe we can get it done before Pika | 15:32 |
| ramishra | btw, there are number of bps for review, we need to see what we can do in this cycle. | 15:32 |
| ricolin | we have a spec | 15:32 |
| ramishra | we don't have much time though and the holidays. | 15:32 |
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| ricolin | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392499/ | 15:32 |
| zaneb | ah! | 15:33 |
| zaneb | ok, linked it from the bp | 15:33 |
| ricolin | ramishra: It's a holiday week for us! | 15:33 |
| zaneb | I can review that first, it'll be quicker :) | 15:33 |
| ricolin | I mean U.S. | 15:33 |
| ricolin | zaneb: yah! don't want you guys go for those 15 patches first | 15:34 |
| ramishra | Request to review the specs and then see if/what we can do this cycle. | 15:34 |
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| zaneb | ok, will do | 15:35 |
| ricolin | ramishra: +1 | 15:35 |
| zaneb | ramishra: btw I have another topic once we have finished the agenda | 15:36 |
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| ramishra | we have translation, property, template migrate group and more;) | 15:36 |
| ramishra | property group | 15:36 |
| ramishra | zaneb: sure | 15:37 |
| ramishra | ricolin: the next topic is also spec review request I think? | 15:37 |
| ramishra | #topic ironic resource | 15:37 |
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| ricolin | ramishra: kind of, but I would like to know what guys think about it | 15:38 |
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| ramishra | ricolin: I thought we had agreed to add the ironic resources, no? | 15:38 |
| ramishra | zaneb, therve ? | 15:38 |
| zaneb | remind me why we're doing this again? | 15:38 |
| zaneb | most people will never see it, since it's admin-only, so no big deal... | 15:39 |
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| ricolin | zaneb: ironic resource should seperate to manage resource and deploy resource | 15:39 |
| zaneb | just not sure that it's actually a useful thing | 15:39 |
| ramishra | zaneb: I think there was an earlier discussion about it, not able to locate it. | 15:40 |
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| ricolin | and manage resource will be a good item to add in to heat | 15:40 |
| therve | ricolin, Are you going to use this? | 15:40 |
| zaneb | ok, so it's not actually about going around nova for allocating servers, just about managing the stuff that Ironic knows about | 15:40 |
| zaneb | ? | 15:40 |
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| ricolin | zaneb: Yep | 15:41 |
| ramishra | zaneb: yeah, that was also my impression without reading the spec | 15:41 |
| zaneb | ok, sounds harmless enough | 15:41 |
| ricolin | zaneb: I add all ironic resource in spec | 15:42 |
| ramishra | ok, sounds good. | 15:42 |
| ricolin | zaneb: would like to let nova do it job and use ironic resource in heat to cover the rest | 15:42 |
| zaneb | I'm not actually convinced that any of our admin-only resources are really useful but they're mostly harmless as long as they're hidden | 15:42 |
| zaneb | (from non-admins) | 15:43 |
| ramishra | yeah, I've seen keystone resources used a lot though. | 15:43 |
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| ramishra | I see number of bugs reported. | 15:43 |
| ricolin | therve: It will be a greate thing if we can use heat to control baremetral | 15:43 |
| therve | ricolin, That's not my question though :) | 15:44 |
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| ricolin | ricolin: I'm more thinking about Ironic+magnum case can be done just in heat | 15:44 |
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| zaneb | ramishra: keystone resources would be _really_ useful if only you didn't have to be an admin to use them :/ | 15:45 |
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| therve | (got to go, bbl) | 15:46 |
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| ramishra | ok, should we move on, we've few more mins. | 15:47 |
| ramishra | #topic open discussion | 15:47 |
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| ramishra | therve: np, thanks:) | 15:47 |
| ramishra | zaneb: you wanted to discuss something? | 15:47 |
| ricolin | zaneb: aren't you have some topic? | 15:47 |
| zaneb | ramishra: ah, yes. backpressure. | 15:48 |
| zaneb | specifically, how, in convergence, do we limit the amount of work that we try to do at one time | 15:48 |
| zaneb | so that we don't e.g. run out of DB connections | 15:48 |
| ramishra | zaneb: I don't have a clue, you know better:) | 15:49 |
| zaneb | right now we do it by limiting the thread pool size... | 15:49 |
| zaneb | but as we've found this week that's apparently not an ideal solution | 15:50 |
| zaneb | small limit -> everything is slow | 15:50 |
| zaneb | large limit -> run out of db connections | 15:51 |
| cwolferh | it's not an ideal solution in the db connection case. but are there others? | 15:51 |
| ramishra | zaneb: Isn't it deployment specific | 15:51 |
| ramishra | ? | 15:51 |
| ramishra | I mean someone can increase max_connections if they want? | 15:51 |
| ramishra | if the concurrency is high. | 15:51 |
| zaneb | I guess | 15:52 |
| ramishra | Though I may be missing something. | 15:52 |
| zaneb | we either need to publish the correct tuning parameters for different sized deployments or make this Just Work imho | 15:52 |
| ramishra | zaneb: I saw this patch from therve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400155/ | 15:53 |
| zaneb | the ideal thing would be to enumerate our bottlenecks (like db connections) and apply backpressure, using the message queue as a buffer | 15:53 |
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| zaneb | iow the exact opposite of therve's slow-start patch ;) | 15:54 |
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| zaneb | I don't have a solution here | 15:54 |
| ramishra | zaneb: yeah:) | 15:54 |
| zaneb | just wanted to socialise the idea a little bit | 15:55 |
| ramishra | zaneb: Would it be good to start a ML thread for it? | 15:55 |
| zaneb | it probably would | 15:55 |
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| zaneb | therve: can you give a quick update on exactly what we found with the gate and how we fixed it? | 15:56 |
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| ramishra | zaneb: I'm not sure if therve is still around. | 15:56 |
| zaneb | oh, missed that he dropped out | 15:56 |
| ramishra | zaneb: we did not know the exact root cause. | 15:56 |
| zaneb | ramishra: can *you* give a quick update? ;) | 15:57 |
| ramishra | it started when we moved to xenial | 15:57 |
| ramishra | but it seems it's fine now. | 15:57 |
| ramishra | We changed the executor_thread_pool_size to 8 from default 64 | 15:58 |
| ramishra | in master | 15:58 |
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| ramishra | that's actually used as the max_overflow of connections in oslo.db | 15:58 |
| ramishra | max_overflow is 40 by default | 15:58 |
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| zaneb | what does overflow mean in this context? | 15:59 |
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| ramishra | we have a pool_size of 5 (default) | 15:59 |
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| ramishra | so if more connections are needed from the pool, it can overflow to the overflow limit | 16:00 |
| ramishra | so the max connections from the pool that can be used is 5+40=45 | 16:00 |
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| * zaneb scratches head | 16:00 | |
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| zaneb | it sounds like we're saying the pool_size is meaningless? | 16:00 |
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| ramishra | zaneb: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.db/api/options.html | 16:01 |
| inc0 | << taps into meeting doors >> | 16:01 |
| ricolin | time's up | 16:01 |
| ramishra | I think we've to end. | 16:01 |
| zaneb | ok | 16:01 |
| ramishra | thanks all | 16:01 |
| inc0 | thank you guys!:) sorry, but I sense our meeting will be packed too | 16:02 |
| ramishra | #endmeeting heat | 16:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 23 16:02:03 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-11-23-15.00.html | 16:02 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-11-23-15.00.txt | 16:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-11-23-15.00.log.html | 16:02 |
| zhubingbing | hello guys | 16:02 |
| inc0 | #startmeeting kolla | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 23 16:02:18 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is inc0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 16:02 |
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| inc0 | #topic woot for kolla - rollcall | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "woot for kolla - rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:02 | |
| inc0 | w00t everyone!;) | 16:02 |
| duonghq | woot | 16:02 |
| berendt | woot | 16:02 |
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| sean-k-mooney | woot | 16:03 |
| jascott1 | woot | 16:03 |
| Jeffrey4l | woot | 16:03 |
| zhubingbing | woot | 16:03 |
| srwilkers_ | woot and such | 16:03 |
| duonghq | nice to see you guys | 16:03 |
| sdake_ | o/ | 16:03 |
| mgiles | woot | 16:03 |
| portdirect | o/ | 16:03 |
| * berendt is only reading, walking to the hotel at the moment, reading on my mobile phone | 16:03 | |
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| sean-k-mooney | sdake_: being a rebel with the o/ | 16:03 |
| sp__ | hi all | 16:03 |
| sayantani01 | woot :) | 16:03 |
| inc0 | #topic announcements | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:04 | |
| sdake_ | sean-k-mooney o/ is standard openstack greeting | 16:04 |
| inc0 | I don't have anything:) | 16:04 |
| inc0 | oh, we do have voting gates now | 16:04 |
| sean-k-mooney | cool | 16:04 |
| inc0 | for source builds | 16:04 |
| Jeffrey4l | and gate is green ;) | 16:04 |
| sdake_ | Jeffrey4l ++ | 16:05 |
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| inc0 | any announcements from community? | 16:05 |
| sdake_ | ya i got something | 16:05 |
| inc0 | go ahead | 16:05 |
| sdake_ | ryan stepping away from kolla project for awhile | 16:05 |
| sdake_ | who knows how long | 16:05 |
| srwilkers_ | :( | 16:05 |
| sdake_ | in the meantime i'll be handling kolla-kubernetes | 16:05 |
| Jeffrey4l | ;( | 16:06 |
| sdake_ | this project is too big to handle solo | 16:06 |
| sdake_ | i failed at handling kolla-kubernetes in newton - so busy with ansible | 16:06 |
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| sdake_ | lets make it a winner | 16:06 |
| zhubingbing | ;) | 16:06 |
| jascott1 | woot! | 16:06 |
| duonghq | roger | 16:06 |
| berendt | Bad news... :-( | 16:06 |
| inc0 | k, let's start with actual meeting:) | 16:07 |
| inc0 | we'll talk about k8s later | 16:07 |
| sdake_ | ya he may come back who knows | 16:07 |
| inc0 | #topic gates - state of union | 16:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "gates - state of union (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:07 | |
| inc0 | so, thanks to Jeffrey4l and others we have green gates after repo splut | 16:07 |
| inc0 | we also have some voting gates, so now we can move forward to make improvements | 16:07 |
| inc0 | 1 thing is effort to setup docker registry in infra | 16:08 |
| Jeffrey4l | inc0, what's the progress on that? | 16:08 |
| inc0 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401003/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399221/ | 16:08 |
| inc0 | these reviews + some discussions I keep having on infra | 16:09 |
| Jeffrey4l | cool | 16:09 |
| inc0 | I know how to install registry outside docker, but I could use puppet help | 16:09 |
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| inc0 | so if anyone knows puppet and would like to assist me with this, I'd appreciate it | 16:09 |
| inc0 | having registry will allow us to have voting deploy gates | 16:09 |
| inc0 | also few other nice things like proper upgrade gates | 16:10 |
| inc0 | next item that could be done would be multinode gating | 16:10 |
| sean-k-mooney | inc0: is there a reason you are installing the registry with puppet and not using the docker container? | 16:10 |
| inc0 | kfox1111 already prototyped multinode gate in kolla-k8s, we could do it in kolla too | 16:10 |
| inc0 | kolla-ansible* | 16:10 |
| inc0 | sean-k-mooney, they don't have running docker | 16:11 |
| inc0 | so we'd need to install docker;) arguably harder | 16:11 |
| sean-k-mooney | inc0: ah ok makes sense | 16:11 |
| inc0 | so if someone would like to tackle multinode gating, this is open for volunteers too | 16:11 |
| inc0 | next in line would be more scenerios, but that's going to grow | 16:12 |
| sdake_ | inc0 i did you a favor and cleaned up launchpad for kolla itself | 16:12 |
| inc0 | gates are one of biggest painpoints Kolla has today, and one of priorities for release | 16:12 |
| inc0 | sdake_, thank you | 16:12 |
| sdake_ | inc0 recommend blueprints to track that work | 16:12 |
| sean-k-mooney | inc0: is tempest run in the gates currently? | 16:13 |
| sdake_ | then people can sign themselves up | 16:13 |
| inc0 | sean-k-mooney, nope | 16:13 |
| Jeffrey4l | sean-k-mooney, i am trying to set tempest up. | 16:13 |
| sdake_ | np | 16:13 |
| sean-k-mooney | Jeffrey4l: cool useing the tempest contaienr in kolla? | 16:13 |
| Jeffrey4l | sean-k-mooney, yep. | 16:13 |
| sdake_ | rather kolla-ansible | 16:13 |
| sdake_ | which is where we want the gates | 16:13 |
| inc0 | sdake_, we want gates everywhere;0 | 16:14 |
| inc0 | but build gates are straightforward and not much more we can do there | 16:14 |
| sdake_ | right | 16:14 |
| inc0 | (well, we could use customizations for example) | 16:14 |
| inc0 | but ansible needs more immediate gate help | 16:14 |
| sean-k-mooney | Jeffrey4l: its mising ping which make the scenairo tests fail so that will need to be fixed to make the gates pass when tempest is added | 16:14 |
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| Jeffrey4l | we also need something like puppet scenario 1/2/3, to test more service. | 16:16 |
| inc0 | anyway, I'd like to get registry up first, so if anyone would be willing to help me, please speak up now or after meeting | 16:16 |
| inc0 | anything else about gates? | 16:17 |
| Jeffrey4l | need volunteer ;) | 16:18 |
| sdake_ | need a blueprint | 16:18 |
| sdake_ | work items in blueprint | 16:18 |
| Jeffrey4l | need more guy to notice the gate failure and fix it ;) | 16:18 |
| sdake_ | volunteers sign up for work items | 16:18 |
| sdake_ | thats how we have always rolled | 16:18 |
| Jeffrey4l | sdake_, yep. | 16:18 |
| inc0 | kk, I'll subit my blueprints after meeting, Jeffrey4l please do it too if you have anything in mind | 16:19 |
| inc0 | (also everyone else;)) | 16:19 |
| inc0 | moving on | 16:19 |
| inc0 | #topic post-repo split cleanups status | 16:19 |
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| inc0 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-repo-split | 16:19 |
| Jeffrey4l | roger. | 16:20 |
| inc0 | let's go from top | 16:20 |
| inc0 | 1. removal of ansible code -> done | 16:20 |
| inc0 | let's mark what is done and what's not | 16:20 |
| inc0 | 2. fixing gates | 16:20 |
| inc0 | can we call it done or still work to be done? | 16:21 |
| sean-k-mooney | the ansible code is removed but we still need to remove the non ansible code form kolla-ansible correct? | 16:21 |
| Jeffrey4l | fixing gate is done. | 16:21 |
| sp__ | sdake_: yes we will | 16:21 |
| Jeffrey4l | but we need more gate ;), it is another thing. | 16:22 |
| sdake_ | sp__ huh? | 16:22 |
| Jeffrey4l | 3. doc split | 16:22 |
| inc0 | sean-k-mooney, it seems we already merged docker removal from ansible | 16:22 |
| inc0 | docs are very outdated and totally not changed | 16:22 |
| sp__ | sdake_: sign up for work | 16:22 |
| inc0 | I'd put this as #1 priority | 16:22 |
| sdake_ | oh right | 16:22 |
| Jeffrey4l | inc0, we can not maintain two copy of doc. | 16:23 |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l, I'd keep all docs in kolla for now | 16:23 |
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| inc0 | no reason to add to confusion | 16:23 |
| Jeffrey4l | so all doc in kolla-ansible should be removed? | 16:23 |
| sean-k-mooney | inc0: so going forward all docs reside in kolla. for kolla-ansibel and k8s | 16:23 |
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| inc0 | Jeffrey4l, maybe, that's good discussion to be had, I'll put it into dedicated topic in this meeting | 16:24 |
| egonzalez90 | i would leave there and link from kolla to kolla-ansible repo, the same for k8s docs | 16:24 |
| inc0 | egonzalez90, agree, and doc root in Kolla | 16:24 |
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| Jeffrey4l | sean-k-mooney, kolla-ansible has its own doc right now. if we keep all docs in kolla, including k8s, we need move that doc | 16:24 |
| Jeffrey4l | kolla-ansibe/kolla-k8s | 16:24 |
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| inc0 | but for now we need to change quick start guide to work with repo split | 16:24 |
| inc0 | QSG should be single doc tho | 16:25 |
| inc0 | it's meant to be simple and easy to follow | 16:25 |
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| inc0 | anyway, docs -> still to be done and #1 priority | 16:25 |
| inc0 | 7. bugs and blueprints moved out of kolla | 16:26 |
| inc0 | sdake_, you mentioned you took on that right? what's the status? | 16:26 |
| sdake_ | actually jeffrey4l moved the bugs and coolsvap moved the blueprints | 16:26 |
| sdake_ | i got them into an orderly state | 16:26 |
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| inc0 | ok, thank you all then | 16:26 |
| sdake_ | the blueprints part | 16:26 |
| inc0 | so can we mark it as done? | 16:26 |
| sdake_ | didnt' touch the bugs, done triaging for awhile :) | 16:27 |
| inc0 | so bugs...will be harder | 16:27 |
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| inc0 | as people will keep adding bugs to kolla, and that's ok | 16:27 |
| Jeffrey4l | another thing is: how we handle the bp after split. is there any better solution expect for register on each project? | 16:27 |
| inc0 | as part of triaging we might need to add "moving bugs to appropriate project" part | 16:27 |
| sean-k-mooney | inc0: sorry to go back to the split but what about the tools directory and kolla python module. im not sure the build code shoudl be duplicated in kolla-ansible | 16:28 |
| Jeffrey4l | inc0, yep. | 16:28 |
| sdake_ | project^deliverable :) | 16:28 |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l, well, blueptints for kolla-ansible will mostly be different than kolla | 16:28 |
| inc0 | sean-k-mooney, there are tools for kolla and tools for kolla-ansible | 16:28 |
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| sean-k-mooney | blueprints could be decomposed into parts. one for the container to kolla and then one for each deployment type | 16:28 |
| Jeffrey4l | inc0, yep. just wanna to check whether there is a better solution. it is different, but related. | 16:28 |
| inc0 | I can't think of any overlap | 16:28 |
| inc0 | liek tools for both | 16:29 |
| Jeffrey4l | like `implement nova service` | 16:29 |
| sean-k-mooney | inc0: yes but the tools for anible still have the image build code | 16:29 |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l, that can be "implement nova container" -> kolla "implement nova ansible role" ->k-ansible "implement nova k8s chart" -> k-k8s | 16:29 |
| inc0 | sean-k-mooney, why? | 16:30 |
| inc0 | I mean | 16:30 |
| inc0 | now for gates | 16:30 |
| inc0 | but normally, not really | 16:30 |
| inc0 | build is totally separate | 16:30 |
| sean-k-mooney | inc0: well thats my point the repos has that code currently | 16:30 |
| inc0 | ahh, so add this to cleanup right? | 16:30 |
| inc0 | good catch | 16:30 |
| inc0 | I'll make it separate point in etherpad | 16:30 |
| sean-k-mooney | inc0: i think we should remove it from kolla ansible and just use the code in kolla | 16:30 |
| portdirect | kolla-k8s also currently relys on code that is in kolla-ansible for config gen afaik - gut agai i think this is just transitionary. | 16:30 |
| sean-k-mooney | inc0: cool | 16:31 |
| portdirect | *but again | 16:31 |
| Jeffrey4l | inc0 re bp yep. that works. | 16:31 |
| sdake_ | portdirect yup transitory | 16:31 |
| inc0 | well | 16:31 |
| inc0 | not exactly | 16:31 |
| inc0 | I mean we want it changed | 16:31 |
| Jeffrey4l | portdirect, any idea on improving this? | 16:31 |
| inc0 | but we don't know how to change it really | 16:31 |
| inc0 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399147/ | 16:32 |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l, ^ | 16:32 |
| * Jeffrey4l is checking | 16:32 | |
| sdake_ | inc0 you were going to write a spec for seperating the default configs? | 16:32 |
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| portdirect | not really - I'm open to suggestions - but inc0's just pointed to somthing i'd missed | 16:32 |
| inc0 | sdake_, click da lin | 16:33 |
| inc0 | k | 16:33 |
| sdake_ | cool thanks | 16:33 |
| inc0 | it's still sceleton, but I'll need more people to chime in | 16:33 |
| inc0 | it's important | 16:33 |
| inc0 | to be done right | 16:33 |
| inc0 | as it will affect upgrades/ansible (which *has to work*) and stable releases | 16:34 |
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| inc0 | which means if we want to roll with it, it has to be bulletproof | 16:34 |
| inc0 | I'd rather keep duplicated configs that break upgrades | 16:34 |
| sdake_ | yup clearly | 16:35 |
| inc0 | ok, bottom line, take a look at spec later and let's kick off this discussion | 16:35 |
| inc0 | moving on | 16:35 |
| inc0 | #topic documentation after split | 16:35 |
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| portdirect | inc0: that spec looks logical, I'll look later | 16:35 |
| inc0 | So Jeffrey4l moved good topic, we need to decide which docs sits where | 16:35 |
| inc0 | my suggestion: root doc, arch docs and stuff like that (also QSG) in kolla and links to kolla-k8s and kolla-ansible from there | 16:36 |
| Jeffrey4l | fyi, kolla-ansible has doc site right now http://docs.openstack.org/developer/kolla-ansible/ | 16:36 |
| sdake_ | i tend to think we should hash that out on the mailing list | 16:36 |
| sdake_ | the docs are a fragile thing | 16:37 |
| sdake_ | because we dont have a doc writer writing docs | 16:37 |
| inc0 | yeah, agree, let's kick off discussion please tho | 16:37 |
| sean-k-mooney | i think we are going to find more things that are common between k8s and ansible in the future not just docs and configs. | 16:37 |
| inc0 | for one, we *need* QSG fixes asap | 16:37 |
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| inc0 | (especially that it still shows that stable branch needs ansible 1.9) | 16:38 |
| Jeffrey4l | QSQ? means? | 16:38 |
| inc0 | (which is not true for newton) | 16:38 |
| inc0 | QSG - quick start guide | 16:38 |
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| Jeffrey4l | roger. | 16:38 |
| sdake_ | nah qsg has two sets of requirements | 16:38 |
| sdake_ | if you read the docs :) | 16:38 |
| Jeffrey4l | we added more thing in QSG, imo. | 16:38 |
| sdake_ | ansible 2.0 and ansible1.9 | 16:38 |
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| inc0 | https://github.com/openstack/kolla/blob/master/doc/quickstart.rst#install-dependencies | 16:39 |
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| inc0 | yes, and 1.9 is dependency *for stable branch* | 16:39 |
| inc0 | which is no longer true | 16:39 |
| sdake_ | i see what you mean | 16:39 |
| duonghq | iirc there is a ps in review queue fixing this | 16:39 |
| sdake_ | yup that needs changing | 16:39 |
| inc0 | also QSG should use bootstrap-servers | 16:39 |
| inc0 | as it's much easier to handle than manual labor | 16:40 |
| Jeffrey4l | we have this line, should mention stable branch thing in master doc http://docs.openstack.org/developer/kolla/newton | 16:40 |
| Jeffrey4l | need fix it in stable branch doc. | 16:40 |
| inc0 | that's also true, we can just link old docs and keep single versions in master | 16:40 |
| inc0 | bottom line, QSG needs love, lots of it, we should rewrite it tbh now | 16:41 |
| inc0 | v1k0d3n, also mentioned need to add "hacks to deploy with single interface" | 16:41 |
| inc0 | also useful | 16:41 |
| sdake_ | docs are #1 complaint, #2 complaint, and #3 compliant from operators | 16:42 |
| sean-k-mooney | inc0: on that i need to extend the kolla-host script to be also able to bootrasp the build host. | 16:42 |
| Jeffrey4l | sdake_, lol that's true | 16:42 |
| v1k0d3n | ah, yes. been playing with this. | 16:42 |
| v1k0d3n | inc0: | 16:42 |
| inc0 | sean-k-mooney, not really | 16:42 |
| inc0 | it's all working | 16:42 |
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| v1k0d3n | started asking questions about some api strangeness (most likely a config error on my end) with sdake_yesterday, but there were too many convo's going on at that time. | 16:42 |
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| inc0 | I mean it can download kolla, but that's a bit over the top imho | 16:43 |
| v1k0d3n | if someone can help me understand a little better, i can get this firmed up fairly quickly. over teh weekend perhaps | 16:43 |
| v1k0d3n | ? | 16:43 |
| inc0 | v1k0d3n, sure, after meeting | 16:43 |
| portdirect | the kolla-k8s docs are esp bad at the moment; though I think we should discuss that when we get to that part of the meeting? | 16:43 |
| sean-k-mooney | inc0: well ill submit a blueprint with what i was thinking and we cans discuss | 16:43 |
| inc0 | sean-k-mooney, please, thanks | 16:43 |
| v1k0d3n | portdirect: sean-k-mooney sdake_ inc0 we are working on adding the pvc to halcyon...which is a big deal. | 16:44 |
| inc0 | pvc? | 16:44 |
| zhubingbing__ | i have two questions about elk | 16:44 |
| inc0 | as in volume claim? | 16:44 |
| v1k0d3n | if that helps? there is a workaround that kolla-k8s should be aware of...we needed a custom kubernetes-controller to make this work. | 16:44 |
| portdirect | ^^ | 16:44 |
| v1k0d3n | yes inc0 | 16:44 |
| v1k0d3n | btw: https://github.com/att-comdev/dockerfiles/tree/master/kube-controller-manager | 16:45 |
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| inc0 | ok, I think we naturally moved to | 16:45 |
| inc0 | #topic kolla-kubernetes topics | 16:45 |
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| v1k0d3n | not sure if in the future workarounds should be kolla provided? | 16:45 |
| v1k0d3n | i think this may actually be a good idea... | 16:45 |
| v1k0d3n | to prevent broken items in the future. | 16:45 |
| v1k0d3n | (reliance on upstream) | 16:45 |
| sdake_ | #1 complaint I get from all the folks that want to do kolla-kubernetes dev is "how do I develop the thing" | 16:46 |
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| portdirect | developer env: we need a common one | 16:46 |
| portdirect | and the docs to go with it | 16:46 |
| inc0 | halcyon is promising in this space | 16:46 |
| portdirect | +1 | 16:46 |
| v1k0d3n | source of truth halycon and we can doc? | 16:46 |
| v1k0d3n | or if someone wants to help...that's fine too | 16:46 |
| v1k0d3n | portdirect: you've done a lot to help as well. | 16:46 |
| portdirect | v1k0d3n: I'd be up for helping there | 16:46 |
| inc0 | let's start with doc | 16:46 |
| sdake_ | https://launchpad.net/kolla/ocata | 16:47 |
| sdake_ | woops wrong link :) | 16:47 |
| v1k0d3n | and as i've said before...it doesn't have to stay in this repo. if the source of truth is better in kolla-k8s...by all means! | 16:47 |
| inc0 | I'd like to have it in gerrit one way or another at some point | 16:47 |
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| sdake_ | https://launchpad.net/kolla-kubernetes/ocata | 16:47 |
| inc0 | v1k0d3n, or dedicated "satelite" project in openstack | 16:47 |
| sdake_ | have a look at ocata 2 (the milestone we are in at present) | 16:47 |
| inc0 | logistics can be dealt with | 16:47 |
| v1k0d3n | how can we make this happen? | 16:47 |
| v1k0d3n | or should say...what can we do to help? | 16:48 |
| portdirect | Ok - leading on from sdake's comment - has anyone got a working deve env from kolla-k8s that they have propped up in the last few weeks? | 16:48 |
| sdake_ | its easy, just follow the openstack workflow | 16:48 |
| inc0 | v1k0d3n, 1hr of work really;) creating kolla-halcyon deliverable | 16:48 |
| v1k0d3n | the doc is blueprint already. | 16:48 |
| sdake_ | i think it makes more sense to just link then add a deliverable | 16:48 |
| sdake_ | v1k0d3n agree | 16:48 |
| v1k0d3n | you want halcyon to end up in a dev folder for kolla-k8s? | 16:48 |
| sdake_ | we want o move fast making a deliverable takes forever | 16:49 |
| v1k0d3n | we can make that happen if you want. | 16:49 |
| portdirect | that woud be great from my point of view | 16:49 |
| mgiles | halcyon is limited to os's that support kube-adm though, right? | 16:49 |
| sdake_ | v1k0d3n what I'd like is docs in kolla-kubernetes itself that shows how to use halcyon | 16:49 |
| inc0 | ok, propose a patch then v1k0d3n please | 16:49 |
| mgiles | Fine for dev, but might be a problem longer term for us | 16:49 |
| inc0 | to kolla-k8s with halcyon in it, and docs | 16:49 |
| v1k0d3n | currently yes, but i was going to submit an update for some of the CoreOS happening currently. | 16:49 |
| v1k0d3n | mgiles: ^^^ | 16:49 |
| v1k0d3n | my comment | 16:50 |
| portdirect | I'm also working on Fedora Atomic support | 16:50 |
| sdake_ | i think we treat halcyon a an upstream dev environment | 16:50 |
| sdake_ | rather then somethign we maintain | 16:50 |
| srwilkers_ | i think thats a better approach | 16:50 |
| inc0 | well, it's going to be critical for our effort | 16:50 |
| portdirect | exactly - it just takes the strain of setting up a k8s cluster | 16:50 |
| sdake_ | portdirect precisely | 16:50 |
| sdake_ | then people can develop | 16:50 |
| sdake_ | that unblocks that | 16:51 |
| inc0 | ok, I'll shut up now;) I need docs at least | 16:51 |
| inc0 | where code lives - we can discuss later | 16:51 |
| sdake_ | ya | 16:51 |
| sdake_ | so GOAL | 16:51 |
| v1k0d3n | inc0: sounds good | 16:51 |
| sdake_ | 1.0.0 = compute kit based upon spec ryan wrote | 16:51 |
| sdake_ | its only going to happen with community support | 16:51 |
| sdake_ | take a look at the blueprints | 16:51 |
| sdake_ | they are well laid out | 16:52 |
| sdake_ | sign up for what interests you | 16:52 |
| sean-k-mooney | it would be nice if the bootstrap-servers command could bootrap for the k8s enviorment too. even if that is just use halcon after installing docker. | 16:52 |
| sdake_ | sean-k-mooney oen thing at a time bro :) | 16:52 |
| sdake_ | lets get it working in a dev env first | 16:52 |
| duonghq | I'm thinking I should give kubeadm another chance | 16:52 |
| sean-k-mooney | sdake_: sure thing | 16:52 |
| sdake_ | duonghq whatever works for you | 16:53 |
| duonghq | kube-deploy is much better for me than kubeadm | 16:53 |
| sdake_ | i'd like to thank jascott1 for helping get the blueprints into a state that make sense | 16:53 |
| duonghq | I'm not sure if halcyon does something better | 16:53 |
| sdake_ | they lead to a logical outcome of 1.0.0 | 16:53 |
| duonghq | sure | 16:53 |
| sdake_ | and duonghq helped a bit too :) | 16:54 |
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| v1k0d3n | duonghq: let's take offline or PM me so we can make it work. | 16:54 |
| v1k0d3n | ? | 16:54 |
| v1k0d3n | unless we want to talk this now here... | 16:55 |
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| duonghq | v1k0d3n, sure, it is already working but eat much IOPS | 16:55 |
| v1k0d3n | kube-deply meaning? | 16:55 |
| sdake_ | for folks that are new to openstack | 16:55 |
| sdake_ | i'll be happy to assist on workflow issues you have | 16:55 |
| sdake_ | its key to learn the workflow if your a new contrib | 16:55 |
| duonghq | v1k0d3n, https://github.com/kubernetes/kube-deploy <- that is, Ryan recommended it for me | 16:55 |
| sdake_ | that is item #2 of importance | 16:56 |
| inc0 | sdake_, there is good doc for that in fact | 16:56 |
| sdake_ | agree there are good docs | 16:56 |
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| portdirect | these discussions are exactly why I think we should avoid setting up the k8s cluster becoming part of the kolla-k8s scope (at least at this stage) - as there are so many options with pro's and cons to each of them | 16:56 |
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| sdake_ | if you want help, ask for it | 16:56 |
| v1k0d3n | so the issue duonghq is with pvc...which you're going to run into. | 16:56 |
| inc0 | portdirect, agree, minus dev env | 16:56 |
| inc0 | we want docs for dev env setup | 16:56 |
| sdake_ | portdirect agree | 16:56 |
| inc0 | prod - I wouldn't touch it with 1m pole | 16:57 |
| sdake_ | right we need a dev env 6 months ago | 16:57 |
| duonghq | v1k0d3n, I'll pm you after the meeting | 16:57 |
| portdirect | inc0: exactly :) | 16:57 |
| v1k0d3n | ok | 16:57 |
| v1k0d3n | just one thing to note team... | 16:57 |
| inc0 | or 3ft, if SI is hard | 16:57 |
| portdirect | im in europe... | 16:57 |
| v1k0d3n | that out of the box there are issues with some of the rdb pvcs | 16:57 |
| sdake_ | #3, sign up for work that interests you | 16:57 |
| v1k0d3n | had to go with 1.5.0beta1 | 16:57 |
| sdake_ | we have a solid core team and need to grow it | 16:57 |
| sdake_ | #4. need reviews | 16:58 |
| portdirect | v1k0d3n: I think targetting 1.5 makes sense at this stage, esp with the changes it brings in | 16:58 |
| v1k0d3n | so there are some clear dependancies required. just so devs are aware. however you get there...that's fine. we're planning on making this easier for our kolla dev team internal. | 16:58 |
| v1k0d3n | oh my... portdirect absolutely. | 16:58 |
| v1k0d3n | for instance, dont put any stock in petsets. | 16:58 |
| sdake_ | so - those are 4 guidelines i'd provide | 16:58 |
| sdake_ | and we are out of time :) | 16:59 |
| v1k0d3n | that would be tragic without a watchful eye. | 16:59 |
| inc0 | allright guys, we're out of time | 16:59 |
| v1k0d3n | things like that..will burn us | 16:59 |
| v1k0d3n | later | 16:59 |
| inc0 | thank you all for coming! | 16:59 |
| duonghq | thank you | 16:59 |
| inc0 | let's move to #openstack-kolla | 16:59 |
| inc0 | #endmeeting kolla | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 23 16:59:43 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-11-23-16.02.html | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-11-23-16.02.txt | 16:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-11-23-16.02.log.html | 16:59 |
| portdirect | cheers - see you on the flipside | 16:59 |
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| zhubingbing__ | hi | 17:00 |
| zhubingbing__ | i have 2 problems about elk | 17:00 |
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| zhubingbing__ | 1.https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/bp-elasticsearch-upgrade | 17:00 |
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| zhubingbing__ | 2.https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/heka-deprecation | 17:00 |
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