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oanson | #startmeeting Dragonflow | 09:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 21 09:00:30 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oanson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'dragonflow' | 09:00 |
yuval | hey | 09:00 |
nick-ma_ | hey | 09:00 |
dimak | hello | 09:00 |
oanson | Hello. Who's here for the Dragonlfow meeting? | 09:00 |
lihi | Hi | 09:01 |
xiaohhui | hi | 09:01 |
yuanwei | hello | 09:01 |
oanson | All right. Let's get started then | 09:01 |
oanson | #topic Ocata Roadmap | 09:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Ocata Roadmap (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:02 | |
oanson | The IPv6 spec has been merged | 09:02 |
oanson | That's great news :). The hard part is over. | 09:02 |
oanson | I see that the SFC spec is converging | 09:03 |
oanson | However, I suspect it might be too big for a single-cycle task | 09:03 |
oanson | dimak, would you like to say something? | 09:03 |
dimak | I'm waiting for more reviews | 09:03 |
dimak | I've revised it a bit yesterday to take into account metadata passing other than that I think it quite ready | 09:04 |
dimak | I'd love to see some more input | 09:04 |
oanson | That's great. I didn't have time to go over it yet. | 09:04 |
oanson | My question is, do you think it's something that can be done in Ocata? | 09:05 |
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oanson | Or do you think it's a double-cycle project? | 09:05 |
dimak | As a standalone feature I think it might be possible | 09:05 |
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oanson | All right. So let's time it for Ocata for now. | 09:05 |
oanson | Please update me if that changes. | 09:05 |
dimak | but it depends heavily on how fast can we push nsh to ovs | 09:05 |
dimak | at least in a side-branch | 09:06 |
oanson | I will also see if I can get you some help. | 09:06 |
dimak | thanks | 09:06 |
oanson | dimak, this we can do ourselves, and maintain the side branch ourselves (for now) | 09:06 |
oanson | If we take something based 2.6.1 it *might* be good enough. | 09:06 |
oanson | Although pushing it to upstream would be best | 09:06 |
nick-ma_ | yes, just modify devstack to install ovs from source. | 09:06 |
oanson | Have you managed to rebase the patches? | 09:07 |
dimak | I didn't get to it yet | 09:07 |
oanson | No worries. This can be done in parallel. | 09:07 |
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oanson | Anything else for SFC? | 09:07 |
dimak | I don't think so | 09:08 |
oanson | All right, the let's move on to chassis status/liveness/health | 09:08 |
oanson | xiaohhui, I see you updated the patch not long ago. | 09:09 |
xiaohhui | I have uploaded a new version of spec today | 09:09 |
xiaohhui | yes | 09:09 |
oanson | I didn't have a chance to look at it yet. | 09:09 |
oanson | But I think it was very close to being ready, so I'm hopeful :) | 09:10 |
xiaohhui | I address the comments, I think it is ready, but comments are always welcomed | 09:10 |
xiaohhui | Thanks :)\ | 09:10 |
oanson | I hope that at this point there are only small things left. | 09:10 |
xiaohhui | I hope that too :) | 09:11 |
oanson | Anything else for chassis health/status/liveness? | 09:11 |
xiaohhui | Nothing from me | 09:11 |
oanson | Tap-as-a-Service | 09:11 |
oanson | After discussion with yamamoto, we agreed that there'll be a 'position' parameter added that will allow us to decide where to put the tap | 09:12 |
oanson | yuli_s, I see you updated the spec. I didn't have a chance to go over it. Did you add that part in? | 09:12 |
yuli_s | yes, I added it | 09:13 |
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oanson | Great. | 09:13 |
yuli_s | please have a look | 09:13 |
oanson | Will do | 09:13 |
yuli_s | finally I resolved the problem I had in multi-node environment | 09:13 |
oanson | We will have to work with the TaaS team to see when it is added there. We may need to help. | 09:14 |
yuli_s | so, I will continue working on second part of the spec | 09:14 |
oanson | yuli_s, That's great. | 09:14 |
yuli_s | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400102/ | 09:14 |
oanson | I think the best plan right now is to support one value of 'position', and support the rest immediately after. | 09:14 |
oanson | This separation will allow us to do a cut-off when Ocata ends, if we need to | 09:15 |
yuli_s | yes | 09:15 |
yuli_s | suer | 09:15 |
yuli_s | sure | 09:15 |
oanson | Thanks | 09:15 |
oanson | Anything else for TAPaaS? | 09:15 |
yuli_s | currently no | 09:15 |
oanson | All right. | 09:16 |
oanson | The Anonymous sNAT person isn't here. I forgot to ask him to join. | 09:16 |
oanson | I would like to clarify the app-separation issue, since I am not sure I was clear | 09:16 |
oanson | My vision states that there are several sNAT apps. | 09:17 |
oanson | Only one runs in a node/Dragonflow configuration. | 09:17 |
oanson | The operator decides how sNAT behaves, and selects the Dragonflow sNAT app that has this behaviour. | 09:17 |
nick-ma_ | does the spec include all these apps? i doubt. | 09:18 |
oanson | This way, the anonymous sNAT does not need additional configuration: If it is running, it is expected to do its "thing". Otherwise, a different app should be configured to run. | 09:18 |
xiaohhui | several snat app, you mean, distributed/centralized snat app, right? | 09:18 |
oanson | nick-ma_, I think that's out-of-scope for the spec. The spec is only for one snat implementation | 09:19 |
oanson | xiaohhui, yes. | 09:19 |
oanson | In general, is this vision acceptable? | 09:19 |
nick-ma_ | ok. | 09:19 |
nick-ma_ | of course. | 09:19 |
oanson | If so, I can add documentation explaining it. | 09:19 |
xiaohhui | is there plan to create centrialized snat and eliminate l3-agent? | 09:19 |
xiaohhui | centralized snat app | 09:20 |
oanson | xiaohhui, not to my knowledge. | 09:20 |
oanson | I think the quickest simplest way to build a centralised snat app is have it use the l3-agent. That means keeping the l3-agent | 09:20 |
xiaohhui | ok, so why will explicit centralized snat app needed? It could work with the l3 app now with l3-agent. | 09:20 |
oanson | Maybe once SFC is in, we can have a SF for sNAT, which will be centralised and work out-of-the-box. | 09:20 |
oanson | xiaohhui, The l3 agent should run only if the centralised snat app is configured. (This is not how it works now, but I think that should be changed. I'll see if I can get around to it) | 09:21 |
xiaohhui | I see.. | 09:22 |
oanson | If there is no snat app, snat functionality should not work (including not having an l3-agent) | 09:22 |
oanson | I think the work on chassis liveness should help here - we discussed moving l3-agent to run using a ProcessManager from the controller. | 09:22 |
xiaohhui | With the df-controller manage the l3-agent in centralized snat app, right? | 09:22 |
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oanson | xiaohhui, yes. Exactly | 09:22 |
xiaohhui | Thanks, I get it... | 09:23 |
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oanson | Anything else for sNAT? | 09:23 |
irenab | oanson, can you please send the link to the spec? | 09:23 |
oanson | Sure. | 09:23 |
oanson | #link Distributed SNAT spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397992/ | 09:24 |
irenab | thanks | 09:24 |
oanson | LBaaS | 09:24 |
oanson | I didn't have a chance to go over the comments on this one. | 09:24 |
oanson | Is there anything there that's a blocker? | 09:24 |
oanson | (Obviously, I expect the comments to be treated. The question is is the something that we need to discuss here?) | 09:25 |
oanson | Great. Then I guess the rest can be done on the spec. | 09:26 |
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oanson | Anything else for roadmap? | 09:26 |
irenab | oanson, link to the LBaaS spec? | 09:27 |
oanson | Of course :) | 09:27 |
oanson | #link Load Balancer as a Server V2 specification https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397992/u | 09:27 |
oanson | I'll add the links to the meeting schedule too: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Dragonflow | 09:27 |
nick-ma_ | the spec is not completed about the functionality, health monitor, control plane. | 09:28 |
irenab | oanson, its the sNAT one | 09:28 |
nick-ma_ | i give my comments inline. | 09:28 |
oanson | #link Load Balancer as a Server V2 specification https://review.openstack.org/397997 | 09:28 |
oanson | nick-ma_, yes. I saw you added this to the comments. | 09:29 |
xiaohhui | I remember I gave some comments too. But I don't remember exactly now, I guess we can carry on discussion in the spec | 09:29 |
oanson | denghui, will you be able to fill in the missing bits? | 09:29 |
denghui | sure, will be updated it soon. | 09:30 |
oanson | Great. Thanks! | 09:30 |
oanson | Anything else for roadmap? | 09:30 |
oanson | Great! | 09:31 |
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oanson | #topic Bugs | 09:31 |
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oanson | There are a couple of new bugs. | 09:31 |
oanson | There are two that I'm marking high: | 09:31 |
oanson | Bug 1642895 | 09:31 |
openstack | bug 1642895 in DragonFlow "In large scale, SGApp will slow down the speed of processing a logical port updated event" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1642895 | 09:31 |
oanson | yuli_s, as part of your performance work, will you be able to look at it? | 09:32 |
yuli_s | i will take a look | 09:32 |
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oanson | Thanks | 09:32 |
oanson | Bug 1642525 | 09:32 |
openstack | bug 1642525 in DragonFlow "redis driver raise exception when node removed" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1642525 | 09:32 |
oanson | I will try and contact the guy who wrote the redis driver, see if he's willing to review the bug and send a fix | 09:33 |
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oanson | The bug list is growing, but I think that's all right for now. I want to concentrate in the next month on new features | 09:34 |
oanson | (IPv6, NAT, LBaaS, SFC) | 09:34 |
oanson | And treat bugs in the month after that. | 09:34 |
nick-ma_ | that makes sense. | 09:35 |
oanson | Obviously, if you upload a fix to a bug, it will be reviewed and merged. But I will give a greater stress on bugs later in the cycle. | 09:35 |
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oanson | Anything else for bugs? | 09:35 |
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oanson | #topic Open Discussion | 09:36 |
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oanson | The floor is for the taking. | 09:36 |
yuli_s | i saw a number of bugs related to selective distribution | 09:36 |
yuli_s | that should be addressed asap | 09:37 |
oanson | yuli_s, in that case, please upgrade them to Critical, so we'll see them | 09:37 |
yuli_s | ok, great | 09:37 |
oanson | Do they all have owners? | 09:37 |
oanson | Anything specific you want to raise here? | 09:38 |
yuli_s | sec. will give numbers | 09:38 |
yuli_s | https://bugs.launchpad.net/dragonflow/+bug/1641626 | 09:39 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1641626 in DragonFlow "Failed to load VM in multi-node setup" [Critical,New] | 09:39 |
yuli_s | ops, | 09:39 |
yuli_s | it is wrong | 09:39 |
yuli_s | https://bugs.launchpad.net/dragonflow/+bug/1641903 | 09:39 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1641903 in DragonFlow "Exception in removing router in multi-node setup" [High,New] | 09:39 |
yuli_s | will make it critical now | 09:40 |
xiaohhui | I want to bring this review out. It has a +2 from nick-ma_ The refactor will be hard to rebase, so I hope it will not wait too long. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393974/ | 09:40 |
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oanson | xiaohhui, I will look at it | 09:41 |
yuli_s | the CN had unsubscribed from topic before removing logical port | 09:41 |
yuli_s | and as a result , exception | 09:41 |
oanson | I don't think we have enough hands to take it right now. | 09:42 |
oanson | Unless someone volunteers? | 09:42 |
yuli_s | so, it is only 1 critical bug for now | 09:42 |
oanson | I'll take it. But it will take me a few days to reach it. | 09:43 |
xiaohhui | I can take it | 09:43 |
oanson | xiaohhui, even better :) | 09:43 |
oanson | It's yours. Thanks! | 09:43 |
xiaohhui | :) | 09:43 |
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oanson | The floor is for the taking again. | 09:44 |
oanson | In that case, we can go to lunch/dinner early :) | 09:44 |
nick-ma_ | :-) | 09:45 |
yuli_s | ;) | 09:45 |
xiaohhui | bye~ | 09:45 |
oanson | Thanks everyone for coming, and for your efforts! | 09:45 |
oanson | #endmeeting | 09:45 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 21 09:45:23 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:45 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-11-21-09.00.html | 09:45 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-11-21-09.00.txt | 09:45 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-11-21-09.00.log.html | 09:45 |
yuli_s | zaijian | 09:45 |
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apuimedo | #startmeeting kuryr | 14:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 21 14:02:08 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is apuimedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:02 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kuryr' | 14:02 |
apuimedo | Welcome to Kuryr's weekly meeting! | 14:02 |
apuimedo | Who's here? | 14:02 |
garyloug | o/ | 14:02 |
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vikasc | o/ | 14:02 |
limao_ | o/ | 14:02 |
alraddarla_ | o/ | 14:02 |
yedongcan | o/ | 14:02 |
irenab | hi | 14:03 |
ivc_ | o/ | 14:03 |
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apuimedo | :-) | 14:03 |
hongbin | o/ | 14:03 |
apuimedo | Welcome everybody! | 14:03 |
mchiappero | o/ | 14:03 |
apuimedo | #topic kuryr-libnetwork | 14:03 |
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ltomasbo | o/ | 14:03 |
apuimedo | crap | 14:03 |
apuimedo | #topic kuryr-lib | 14:03 |
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apuimedo | my hand autocompletes lib to libnetwork sometimes | 14:04 |
apuimedo | xD | 14:04 |
apuimedo | anyway | 14:04 |
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apuimedo | We have to cut a release so that we can move kuryr-libnetwork to depend on it | 14:04 |
lmdaly | o/ | 14:04 |
mchiappero | it would be great! | 14:05 |
apuimedo | indeed | 14:05 |
apuimedo | I would like it if anybody that has something that should make it to this release brings it up :-) | 14:06 |
alraddarla_ | I found a few easy documentation bugs that I'm willing to fix. Added one patch set here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397790/ | 14:06 |
apuimedo | vikasc: irenab: we should merge the simpler ones now, so they don't wait a whole release | 14:07 |
apuimedo | like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/394819/4 | 14:07 |
apuimedo | alraddarla_: good! | 14:07 |
irenab | apuimedo, will take a look | 14:07 |
alraddarla_ | i plan to fix the other one as soon as this one gets merged | 14:07 |
vikasc | apuimedo, sure | 14:07 |
apuimedo | good | 14:07 |
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janonymous | o/ | 14:07 |
apuimedo | alraddarla_: make sure to add more reviewers to your patches :-) | 14:08 |
apuimedo | otherwise sometimes I miss patches | 14:08 |
alraddarla_ | okay, will do! Since I'm newer to the project I wasn't sure how you all like to handle these | 14:08 |
alraddarla_ | Anyone else besides you that I should normall add? | 14:09 |
apuimedo | alraddarla_: limao vikasc and irenab are doing a lot of reviews | 14:09 |
apuimedo | yedongcan and janonymous too :-) | 14:09 |
apuimedo | we have a healthy reviewing population | 14:09 |
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apuimedo | vikasc: ltomasbo: I'd like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361993/ to be part of the release | 14:09 |
alraddarla_ | Awesome, sounds great! Thanks | 14:09 |
apuimedo | alraddarla_: welcome to the project :-) | 14:10 |
ltomasbo | with both modes? | 14:10 |
ltomasbo | or just one subport per container? | 14:10 |
alraddarla_ | Thank you, apuimedo :) I'm excited to jump in | 14:10 |
vikasc | apuimedo, i am working on vlan-per-containe mod | 14:10 |
vikasc | apuimedo, i am trying trunk port support | 14:11 |
apuimedo | ltomasbo: we can start with one and make a further release for the second mode | 14:11 |
apuimedo | no need to to everything at once | 14:11 |
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ltomasbo | great, so I will sync with vikasc for the vlan-per-container | 14:11 |
vikasc | able to see trunk bridge etc getting created, not sure where ping packets are getting stuck | 14:11 |
apuimedo | #info before release we must have CNI driver (apuimedo) and one vlan binding mode (vikasc + ltomasbo) | 14:11 |
ivc_ | apuimedo, do we really need CNI in release? | 14:12 |
ltomasbo | vikasc: do you need some help? | 14:12 |
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vikasc | ltomasbo, we might debug together | 14:12 |
apuimedo | ivc_: we don't, but I hope I get it before they do :P | 14:12 |
vikasc | ltomasbo, :) | 14:12 |
irenab | apuimedo, CNI is in kuryr-lib? | 14:12 |
ivc_ | apuimedo, i had a suggestion regarding CNI and the drivers | 14:12 |
apuimedo | I am hoping I don't need to visit a hospital in at least 10 days | 14:12 |
apuimedo | xD | 14:12 |
apuimedo | irenab: the base driver is | 14:12 |
ltomasbo | sure, happy to help! are you working on kuryr-libnetwork too? or just the binding so far? | 14:13 |
apuimedo | ivc_: where did you send it? IRC or ml? | 14:13 |
vikasc | ltomasbo,i will ping you just after meeting | 14:13 |
ivc_ | wdyt if we use kuryr-kubernetes as a sandbox/playground for CNI and os-vif - based drivers | 14:13 |
* apuimedo just binding | 14:13 | |
ltomasbo | vikasc: ok, great! | 14:13 |
ivc_ | apuimedo, i did not :) i'm just sharing it now | 14:13 |
apuimedo | ivc_: you mean that we submit it there and then we have it graduate to kuryr-lib? | 14:13 |
ivc_ | my thinking was that kuryr-k8s is not bound by release-restrictions | 14:13 |
ivc_ | yet | 14:13 |
apuimedo | I don't know what irenab and vikasc think, but it makes a lot of sense to it | 14:14 |
apuimedo | s/to it/to do it/ | 14:14 |
irenab | I was already convinced by ivc_ | 14:14 |
apuimedo | alright then | 14:14 |
ivc_ | right now i'm planning to implement the [experimental] cni driver by using just os-vif (and some parts of kuryr-lib maybe or just IPDB) | 14:14 |
apuimedo | #action apuimedo to move CNI patch to kuryr-kubernetes and make it work with the pod handler and have a devstack test | 14:15 |
ivc_ | so we can eventually mature it enough to get rid of the bash scripts and replace it with os-vif :) | 14:15 |
apuimedo | #info kuryr-lib release drops CNI driver | 14:15 |
apuimedo | ivc_: agreed | 14:15 |
ivc_ | apuimedo, cool | 14:15 |
apuimedo | altough that will probably mean to have to send patches to os-vif | 14:15 |
ivc_ | not necessary | 14:15 |
apuimedo | hopefully not | 14:16 |
ivc_ | they use stevedore too :) | 14:16 |
apuimedo | ah, good | 14:16 |
apuimedo | anything more on kuryr-lib? | 14:16 |
ivc_ | there's one thing i'm mising is the Subnet.id | 14:16 |
ivc_ | ^ in os-vif | 14:16 |
irenab | I guess possible to start just by posting a bug for os_vif | 14:17 |
apuimedo | irenab: first we try to make it work | 14:17 |
apuimedo | ivc_: I started a patch for subnet.id to os-vif | 14:17 |
ivc_ | irenab, we have a workaround for now, we'll fix it later | 14:17 |
apuimedo | when we get to it I'll continue it | 14:17 |
ivc_ | cool | 14:18 |
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apuimedo | #topic kuryr-libnetwork | 14:18 |
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apuimedo | vikasc: please, look at this patch from yedongcan https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400078/1 | 14:19 |
vikasc | apuimedo, sure | 14:19 |
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apuimedo | and the patches he sent for credentials | 14:19 |
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apuimedo | he took over gal's bp of not using admin credentials IIRC | 14:20 |
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vikasc | apuimedo, i will go through | 14:20 |
apuimedo | thanks | 14:21 |
vikasc | yedongcan, please add me to the review list | 14:21 |
apuimedo | lmdaly: once we make the release, we should be able to merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/394547/ right? | 14:22 |
apuimedo | *kuryr-lib | 14:22 |
mchiappero | yes | 14:22 |
mchiappero | well, I'm not sure there is a need for rebasing | 14:23 |
mchiappero | but tests should pass | 14:23 |
apuimedo | #info The refactoring of where the devices are created and deleted to better comply with libnetwork and also to make nested flow work is pending kuryr-lib release | 14:23 |
apuimedo | very well | 14:23 |
apuimedo | anything else on kuryr-libnetwork? | 14:24 |
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mchiappero | lmdaly | 14:24 |
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apuimedo | lmdaly: mchiappero: Did you send a patch after this one for using the nested drivers already? | 14:24 |
lmdaly | We have the libnetwork driver very nearly ready | 14:24 |
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mchiappero | there are a few opens to discuss about but should be there | 14:25 |
mchiappero | one open is how to guarantee the driver-to-driver coherency | 14:25 |
apuimedo | mchiappero: we did have some discussion on that in the channel last week | 14:26 |
mchiappero | I was wondering whether we can make bindings.drivers.__init__ store a binding driver? | 14:26 |
apuimedo | what do you mean with 'store'? | 14:26 |
apuimedo | you mean to cache it during runtime? | 14:27 |
mchiappero | apuimedo: yes, I like your idea, I'm still not too sure on how to adapt the kuryr-lib side | 14:27 |
mchiappero | yes | 14:27 |
apuimedo | can't we do that on the controller side? | 14:27 |
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apuimedo | to have a kuryr-libnetwork driver loading method | 14:27 |
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apuimedo | that returns you the cached one? | 14:27 |
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mchiappero | yes, but currently kuryr-lib is reading straight from the config file | 14:28 |
mchiappero | ok ok, I wasn't sure there was a clear agreement yet | 14:28 |
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apuimedo | I see no issue with kuryr-libnetwork caching binding drivers | 14:29 |
mchiappero | let's anyway continue on gerrit once the first patchset is up | 14:29 |
apuimedo | if anybody sees issues with it, please bring it up | 14:29 |
mchiappero | neither I, it was more on how to adapt kuryr-lib | 14:29 |
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mchiappero | apuimedo: good, will do! | 14:30 |
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apuimedo | mchiappero: if there is changes we need to kuryr-lib, let's bring it up before we release :P | 14:30 |
apuimedo | #topic kuryr-kubernetes | 14:30 |
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mchiappero | apuimedo: there is a dependency cycle | 14:31 |
apuimedo | #info we move CNI and os-vif binding to kuryr-kubernetes first. From here it will bubble up to kuryr-lib | 14:31 |
apuimedo | another important thing. Or even more | 14:31 |
apuimedo | We need to start adding functional tests to kuryr-kubernetes using devstack | 14:31 |
mchiappero | the dependency on kuryr-libnetwork won't merge until we release kuryr-lib | 14:32 |
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apuimedo | mchiappero: let's detail the dependency cycle on #openstack-kuryr just after the meeting | 14:32 |
apuimedo | and see how we go about it | 14:32 |
apuimedo | #chair ivc_ | 14:33 |
openstack | Current chairs: apuimedo ivc_ | 14:33 |
apuimedo | ivc_: please, update on the latest of your work | 14:33 |
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ivc_ | well, there's one huge problem about kuryr-k8s is that i probably poorly communicate plans with community :) | 14:34 |
vikasc | +1 :) | 14:34 |
ivc_ | xD | 14:34 |
vikasc | :D | 14:34 |
irenab | ivc_, hoppe that https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hExm0TNp_OMWY_XMVRYpSvg5G8kFrL5hcrT9M_NDCwo/edit?usp=sharing will help on this | 14:34 |
ivc_ | but thankfully irenab started working on a devref :) | 14:34 |
ivc_ | ^ | 14:34 |
ivc_ | so thanks a lot, irenab <3 | 14:34 |
apuimedo | you can't just drop a link irenab! | 14:35 |
apuimedo | you have to put | 14:35 |
apuimedo | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hExm0TNp_OMWY_XMVRYpSvg5G8kFrL5hcrT9M_NDCwo/edit?usp=sharing | 14:35 |
apuimedo | :-) | 14:35 |
vikasc | irenab, superb +100 | 14:35 |
apuimedo | thanks a lot on this effort irenab! | 14:35 |
irenab | ivc_, thanks a lot for your time and review of the docs | 14:35 |
irenab | its still WIP, but supposed to help to see the full picture of the design ivc_ has in mind | 14:35 |
apuimedo | that's a great initiative | 14:35 |
ivc_ | i hope the confusion about that drivers chain should be fixed once i rebase VIFHandler patch on that chain | 14:36 |
apuimedo | good | 14:36 |
irenab | once convereged on code, we will post it in rst devref in kuryr-k8s | 14:36 |
apuimedo | agreed | 14:36 |
ivc_ | so the current state is that i need to update VIFHandler and then another patch with experimental cni | 14:36 |
apuimedo | #action get https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hExm0TNp_OMWY_XMVRYpSvg5G8kFrL5hcrT9M_NDCwo/edit?usp=sharing in sync with the code and post it as devref | 14:37 |
ivc_ | and then the pods should work | 14:37 |
apuimedo | very well | 14:37 |
ivc_ | actually i've already tested os-vif based binding with current patches, just need to add veth-pairing | 14:37 |
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irenab | ivc_, pods on single network per k8s cluster, correct? | 14:37 |
apuimedo | ivc_: pairing? | 14:37 |
apuimedo | irenab: yes, that's the current default handler | 14:38 |
ivc_ | apuimedo, s/pairing/plugging/ | 14:38 |
apuimedo | ah | 14:38 |
ivc_ | irenab, yes | 14:38 |
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ivc_ | apuimedo, the hybrid bridge and ovs and port activation is working already thanks to os-vif | 14:38 |
ivc_ | so just need to expose it to the container | 14:38 |
apuimedo | cool | 14:39 |
ivc_ | but then we'll have to extend the drivers and there'll be lots of work | 14:39 |
apuimedo | ivc_: extend which drivers? You mean the kuryr-lib binding drivers? | 14:40 |
ivc_ | one part is extending os-vif translators to support linux-bridge and native ovs | 14:40 |
irenab | ivc_, apuimedo any MPV goal for Ocata? | 14:40 |
apuimedo | irenab: MPV? | 14:40 |
ivc_ | ^+1? | 14:40 |
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irenab | minimal product value | 14:41 |
* apuimedo is bad at acronymcs | 14:41 | |
apuimedo | xD | 14:41 |
apuimedo | kuryr-lib should have the vlan binding drivers | 14:41 |
apuimedo | kuryr-libnetwork should work in nested | 14:41 |
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irenab | k8s? | 14:41 |
apuimedo | kuryr-kubernetes should have default drivers for all the resources and cni binding using os-vif | 14:41 |
apuimedo | so far I'm not counting on policy | 14:42 |
irenab | flat network mode? | 14:42 |
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irenab | or also net per namespace? | 14:42 |
mchiappero | sorry, I'm not sure I understand the work needed to extend the drivers | 14:42 |
apuimedo | well, I was hoping we can use the code ivc_ made to load the mapping of port to subnet | 14:42 |
apuimedo | and have it for this release | 14:42 |
apuimedo | so that means you can easily have flat, net per namespace | 14:43 |
apuimedo | it's quite moddable | 14:43 |
ivc_ | :P | 14:43 |
ivc_ | you can tune anything | 14:43 |
ivc_ | almost :) | 14:43 |
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irenab | So plans to have drivers for flat and per namespace + tests? | 14:44 |
ivc_ | also we'll need to extend GenericVIFDriver and subclass it into a Recycling one that will reuse/recycle ports | 14:44 |
apuimedo | something like http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx72/Tripmyster/weird-car-3.jpg | 14:44 |
apuimedo | xD | 14:44 |
apuimedo | ivc_: the recycling part is definitely not MPV though | 14:45 |
irenab | :-) | 14:45 |
ivc_ | apuimedo, maybe not, but it should allow us to show really cool performance numbers | 14:45 |
mchiappero | LOL | 14:46 |
apuimedo | ivc_: it's important work indeed | 14:46 |
irenab | ivc_, apuimedo will be helpful to set miniml goal for ocata | 14:46 |
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ivc_ | as right now the word 'performance' does not have a place in the current codebase | 14:46 |
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apuimedo | minimum goal is to have the base drivers down in a way that they can be replaced with stevedore as ivc_ is doing | 14:46 |
ivc_ | irenab, well are we talking about (public) goals or (internal) ones? | 14:46 |
irenab | apuimedo, do not give ideas to ivc_ he has a lot already :-) | 14:46 |
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apuimedo | and to have a sensible default with devstack test coverage | 14:46 |
irenab | ivc_, both I think | 14:47 |
apuimedo | that's the minimum goal for sure | 14:47 |
apuimedo | I'd like that we can get there with support and tests for nested (probably lmdaly and mchiappero continuing their nested work onto kuryr-kubernetes) | 14:47 |
mchiappero | let us know how we can help there | 14:48 |
apuimedo | that's my first extension goal if we get any extra time | 14:48 |
ivc_ | apuimedo, there we might have a problem | 14:48 |
irenab | need to drop from the meeting, sorry | 14:48 |
apuimedo | irenab: thanks for joining! | 14:48 |
ivc_ | i'm not certain how much of kuryr-lib drivers i can salvage atm | 14:48 |
ivc_ | thnx, irenab | 14:48 |
apuimedo | ivc_: no worries. Just do the os-vif prototype and we'll work it back in | 14:49 |
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apuimedo | and add tests for it | 14:49 |
ivc_ | i'm aiming at 100% coverage | 14:49 |
apuimedo | ivc_: you don't need to ;-) | 14:49 |
ivc_ | but i want! | 14:49 |
ivc_ | :P | 14:49 |
apuimedo | ivc_: better to concentrate on the service and other resource drivers | 14:50 |
apuimedo | and then on the reusing | 14:50 |
apuimedo | than spend time on 100% binding coverage | 14:50 |
apuimedo | which is something we already have on kuryr-lib binding and is a matter of porting | 14:50 |
ivc_ | well its already 100% for most of the modules | 14:51 |
ivc_ | just those pesky opts.py and config.py and some other minor things missing :) | 14:51 |
hongbin | apuimedo: hey, i wonder if i can take 1 - 2 minutes in this meeting. i would like to give a general status update of the fuxi project | 14:51 |
apuimedo | sure | 14:51 |
apuimedo | that's great! | 14:51 |
apuimedo | #topic fuxi | 14:51 |
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apuimedo | #info hongbin is our new fuxi contact | 14:52 |
hongbin | hey everyone | 14:52 |
apuimedo | #chair hongbin | 14:52 |
openstack | Current chairs: apuimedo hongbin ivc_ | 14:52 |
apuimedo | please, go ahead | 14:52 |
hongbin | as apuimedo said, i will start to pick up fuxi from now | 14:52 |
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hongbin | and i would like to work with you to define the future plan | 14:52 |
hongbin | right now, i am still try to pick up the codebase | 14:52 |
hongbin | just want to show up and collect any feedback if there is any | 14:53 |
hongbin | ^^ | 14:53 |
apuimedo | hongbin: did you manage to reach out to jgriffith? | 14:53 |
hongbin | apuimedo: no, i don't have connection to him | 14:53 |
apuimedo | he had some feedback on things that were apparently not working well with fuxi | 14:53 |
apuimedo | hongbin: he's at #openstack-kuryr | 14:53 |
apuimedo | it would be good if we can have discusion in the channel about it | 14:54 |
apuimedo | I'm not sure about his timezone though | 14:54 |
ivc_ | apuimedo, hongbin, do we have plans about fuxi for kuryr-k8s? | 14:54 |
hongbin | apuimedo: ok, i will ping him later | 14:54 |
hongbin | ivc_: yes, k8s support is what we want to support in fuxi | 14:54 |
apuimedo | ivc_: it depends on the state of kubernetes openstack providers. So first we have to check what's the state, see if we can get the people working on that together | 14:55 |
apuimedo | and make a plan for ocata | 14:55 |
hongbin | ivc_: we can discuss it further if anyone want to work on this feature | 14:55 |
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hongbin | sure | 14:55 |
hongbin | the last thing i would need you guys to help | 14:56 |
hongbin | is the review queue: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/fuxi | 14:56 |
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hongbin | it would be great if we can move the old patches there forward :) | 14:56 |
hongbin | that is all from me | 14:56 |
ivc_ | hongbin, apuimedo, i'm just trying to figure out if we'll need to add something to the current watcher/handlers landscape | 14:56 |
ivc_ | for fuxi i mean | 14:56 |
apuimedo | #action apuimedo, vikasc irenab to review https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/fuxi | 14:57 |
hongbin | apuimedo: thx | 14:57 |
apuimedo | ivc_: I think it would be very good to get vikasc feedback on that | 14:57 |
apuimedo | IIRC openshift already does something of a storage/volume annotations on k8s | 14:57 |
apuimedo | so we can see if that is something we can take from | 14:57 |
ivc_ | cool | 14:58 |
apuimedo | apart from the normal storage providers in k8s | 14:58 |
hongbin | ok | 14:58 |
apuimedo | very well | 14:59 |
apuimedo | that's all for today | 14:59 |
apuimedo | thank you all for joining | 14:59 |
apuimedo | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 21 14:59:42 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-11-21-14.02.html | 14:59 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-11-21-14.02.txt | 14:59 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-11-21-14.02.log.html | 14:59 |
jimbaker | #startmeeting craton | 15:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 21 15:00:00 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jimbaker. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'craton' | 15:00 |
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jimbaker | #topic roll call | 15:01 |
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palendae | Here-ish | 15:04 |
jimbaker | palendae, o/ | 15:04 |
sigmavirus | o/ | 15:04 |
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jimbaker | hope everyone is having a great monday after the weekend. also just a quick reminder: no vidyo meeting this thanksgiving ;) | 15:04 |
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jimbaker | (thurs for those not in the US) | 15:05 |
jimbaker | just waiting on sulo at this point, but he's online, so he will have the log | 15:06 |
jimbaker | #topic plans for the week | 15:06 |
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jimbaker | it's a short week. but hopefully good progress | 15:06 |
jimbaker | i will start | 15:07 |
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jimbaker | sulo, sigmavirus - i need a review of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399305/ | 15:07 |
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jimbaker | this is the predecessor change for adding support for virtualized variables | 15:07 |
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jimbaker | (which will simply work by registering new objects in the resolution_order) | 15:08 |
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jimbaker | so more of a plugin scheme than anything else | 15:09 |
jimbaker | also on friday i made good progress on rbac modeling, so should have that written up real soon now | 15:09 |
jimbaker | lastly i will send out the roadmap this week, after working on it with dusty | 15:09 |
jimbaker | we can dive into the details of all three after this part of the meeting | 15:10 |
jimbaker | sigmavirus, what about your forthcoming week? | 15:11 |
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sigmavirus | This week is looking busy for me, | 15:12 |
sigmavirus | But I have some work queued up around the roadmap and client | 15:12 |
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jimbaker | sigmavirus, maybe a good week to be busy, depending on if any travel plans (i have none, so easy for me) | 15:14 |
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jimbaker | ok, this could be a super short meeting today. which is fine | 15:15 |
jimbaker | #topic rbac | 15:15 |
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jimbaker | sigmavirus, so i spent some time reviewing my notes on rbac from the summer; and going through oslo.policy details | 15:16 |
sigmavirus | okay | 15:17 |
jimbaker | right now, i'm planning to implement a mixin for our sqlalchemy objects such that a polymorphic association is created between a given object and a role | 15:17 |
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jimbaker | if some ancestor object has that role, this implies the object has the role. self of course is implicit | 15:18 |
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jimbaker | i believe it should just all work. but let's see in a forthcoming blueprint + change(s) to be reviewed | 15:18 |
sigmavirus | hm, so, for policy work I'd think we'd want to have some constraints that can't be enforced with polymorphic associations | 15:19 |
sigmavirus | having foreign key constraints would mean it'd be harder for a malicious admin to manipulate role data | 15:19 |
jimbaker | sigmavirus, i would assume said constraints go in a policy.json file | 15:19 |
jimbaker | ahh, different constraints | 15:19 |
sigmavirus | yeah, what goes into a policy.json file is a rule | 15:19 |
sigmavirus | (or a collection of rules) | 15:20 |
jimbaker | so polymorphic association actually does the fk stuff | 15:20 |
sigmavirus | (at least that's how we talk about them usually) | 15:20 |
sigmavirus | so I was under the impression you couldn't enforce foreign key constraints with polymorphic associations | 15:20 |
jimbaker | sigmavirus, right, for deriving roles from other roles. hence my confusion re "constraints" (which is somewhat loaded) | 15:20 |
jimbaker | sigmavirus, no that's the beauty of doing polymorphic associations correctly | 15:21 |
* sigmavirus isn't a db expert, hence why I'm asking :) | 15:21 | |
jimbaker | in particular, this is how we implement variables | 15:21 |
jimbaker | one question is: are we just redoing the variable machinery? i don't believe so. also there's something to be said in the relational model of making relationships be explicit, vs implied through code | 15:22 |
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jimbaker | variables are fantastic. not everything should be a variable | 15:22 |
sigmavirus | So, I just worry that if an operator needs to start debugging craton at the db layer, this is going to be as clear as mud to them what's happening | 15:23 |
jimbaker | sigmavirus, old post by mike bayer on this subject - http://techspot.zzzeek.org/2007/05/29/polymorphic-associations-with-sqlalchemy/ | 15:24 |
sigmavirus | And I'm worried we're reaching for polymorphic associations a lot, almost as though everything's a nail we can fix with that hammer | 15:24 |
jimbaker | sigmavirus, that's a good point. but that sounds like a doc issue to me | 15:24 |
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jimbaker | i see it is an inherent when we want to apply a common sort of approach to our code | 15:25 |
jimbaker | we have certainly embraced the polymorphic approach in our modeling. i think it has worked well in terms of its modeling elegance | 15:26 |
* jimbaker is planning to propose a sqlalchemy topic for pycon, fwiw | 15:26 | |
jimbaker | s/topic/talk/ | 15:26 |
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jimbaker | sigmavirus, the flip side is that not having duplicated code probably means greater robustness. the only place where a bug has arisen in variables to my knowledge is where we duplicated code | 15:28 |
jimbaker | hence the refactoring patch i proposed for resolution_order :) | 15:28 |
sigmavirus | okay, just making sure we're taking a step back and introspecting :) | 15:28 |
jimbaker | sigmavirus, hey, that's the point of the review process | 15:28 |
jimbaker | nothing is going to get just dumped in to the project | 15:29 |
jimbaker | sulo, around? | 15:31 |
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jimbaker | sigmavirus, i think we can just end the meeting early | 15:32 |
sigmavirus | jimbaker: works for me :) | 15:33 |
jimbaker | cool. i will sync up with syed, jovon, sulo later | 15:33 |
jimbaker | #endmeeting | 15:33 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 21 15:33:39 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:33 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/craton/2016/craton.2016-11-21-15.00.html | 15:33 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/craton/2016/craton.2016-11-21-15.00.txt | 15:33 |
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Sukhdev | folks, time for Iroinic-neutron meeting | 16:00 |
Sukhdev | #startmeeting ironic_neutron | 16:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 21 16:01:53 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic_neutron' | 16:01 |
Sukhdev | who is here for Ironic_neutron meeting? | 16:02 |
Sukhdev | sambetts, jroll - meeting time | 16:03 |
sambetts | o/ | 16:03 |
Sukhdev | shall we get started? | 16:04 |
sambetts | sure jroll said he'll be late | 16:04 |
Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:04 |
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Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron#Meeting_November_21.2C_2016 | 16:04 |
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Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements | 16:05 |
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Sukhdev | anybody has any announcement? | 16:05 |
Sukhdev | i noticed nova spec is approved | 16:06 |
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Sukhdev | #topic: Security Groups | 16:06 |
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Sukhdev | I pushed updated patch yesterday - should be ready to go | 16:07 |
sambetts | I believe there are more comments today | 16:08 |
Sukhdev | oh OK - have not had a chance to look at this morning - just woke up :-) | 16:09 |
Sukhdev | hopefully some minor ones - will look later and address them | 16:09 |
Sukhdev | once this is merged, will get the document updated as well | 16:10 |
Sukhdev | anything else related to this? | 16:11 |
Sukhdev | #topic: Port Groups | 16:11 |
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Sukhdev | Nova spec is approved - yey!!! | 16:11 |
Sukhdev | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1618754 | 16:12 |
Sukhdev | this one is almost ready as well | 16:12 |
Sukhdev | sambetts : have you tested this? | 16:13 |
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sambetts | I've not had a chance to run it on my test evironment yet :( | 16:15 |
joanna | o/ | 16:15 |
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Sukhdev | I want to test it for MLAG config - but do not have a setup yet | 16:16 |
Sukhdev | anything else on port groups? | 16:16 |
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joanna | I have a question about using node uuid and node id | 16:17 |
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Sukhdev | sure | 16:17 |
joanna | it seems like it should use node_uuid (at least from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1301046) | 16:17 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1301046 in Ironic "ports API allows node IDs in addition to node UUIDs" [Low,Triaged] | 16:17 |
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joanna | this applies both to port and portgroups. I thought about fixing that, though as node methods consume both ids I'm not sure if it makes any sense | 16:19 |
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Sukhdev | sambetts : are you familiar with this? | 16:20 |
Sukhdev | joanna : I thought it should be uuid | 16:22 |
joanna | ok, so it still makes sense to fix it? | 16:22 |
Sukhdev | I would think so | 16:23 |
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joanna | ok, awesome! thanks | 16:24 |
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Sukhdev | #topic: Interface attach API | 16:24 |
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Sukhdev | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:+bug/1582188 | 16:25 |
Sukhdev | sambetts : any update on this? | 16:25 |
sambetts | I'll be getting a patch with updates up soon | 16:25 |
Sukhdev | cool - | 16:26 |
Sukhdev | anything else on this? | 16:26 |
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sambetts | nothing from me really | 16:27 |
Sukhdev | OK - thanks | 16:28 |
Sukhdev | moving on... | 16:28 |
Sukhdev | #topic: VLAN aware Instances | 16:28 |
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Sukhdev | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:+bug/1543584 | 16:28 |
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Sukhdev | this one is dependent upon the interface attach API | 16:29 |
Sukhdev | I assume there is no progress on this | 16:29 |
Sukhdev | Anything else? | 16:29 |
sambetts | Spec still need reviews please : | 16:30 |
sambetts | :) | 16:30 |
* jroll is here now and eating lunch at the same time | 16:30 | |
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Sukhdev | sambetts : I reviewed the earlier version - I will review it later today | 16:31 |
Sukhdev | jroll : you are late to the party - anything from you? | 16:32 |
jroll | Sukhdev: nothing not already covered :) | 16:33 |
Sukhdev | cool | 16:33 |
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Sukhdev | I guess we are done with the main agenda | 16:33 |
Sukhdev | #topic Open Discussion | 16:33 |
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Sukhdev | Anybody has any info on the PTG in Atlanta? | 16:34 |
jroll | did you see the signups? | 16:35 |
jroll | was on the mailing list in the last couple weeks | 16:35 |
jroll | #link https://www.eventbrite.com/e/project-teams-gathering-tickets-27549298694 | 16:35 |
jroll | ironic team will be there w-f :) | 16:35 |
Sukhdev | jroll : thanks | 16:36 |
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Sukhdev | considering this is the first event - I wonder how crowded will this be | 16:37 |
jroll | it's limited to 500 people, I believe | 16:38 |
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Sukhdev | oh I see - that means sign up early then :-) | 16:39 |
jroll | surprised it isn't full yet, suspect everyone's rushing to get budgets done for next year :) | 16:39 |
Sukhdev | 500 seems tight across all projects - | 16:40 |
Sukhdev | anyways - I do not have anything else | 16:41 |
Sukhdev | anybody else has anything? | 16:41 |
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Sukhdev | looks like we are done | 16:42 |
Sukhdev | jroll : enjoy your lunch | 16:42 |
jroll | thanks :) | 16:42 |
Sukhdev | Thanks for attending everyboty | 16:42 |
Sukhdev | everybody | 16:42 |
Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 16:42 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 21 16:42:56 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:42 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-11-21-16.01.html | 16:43 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-11-21-16.01.txt | 16:43 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-11-21-16.01.log.html | 16:43 |
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sigmavirus | tonyb: ? | 21:00 |
tonyb | #startmeeting stable | 21:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 21 21:00:39 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tonyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'stable' | 21:00 |
sigmavirus | I forgot to add https://review.openstack.org/398363 to the agenda before the meeting | 21:00 |
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tonyb | sigmavirus: only 39seconds late ;P | 21:01 |
sigmavirus | tonyb: my computer pinged me so I pinged you ;) | 21:01 |
sigmavirus | pings as a service ;) | 21:01 |
tonyb | :) | 21:01 |
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tonyb | Strange that mine didn't do that thing .... | 21:01 |
* sigmavirus has calendars configured annoyingly | 21:01 | |
tonyb | sigmavirus: :) | 21:02 |
tonyb | #topic status | 21:02 |
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tonyb | I wont drop the 3 links here | 21:03 |
tonyb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StableTeam#Agenda | 21:03 |
tonyb | You can get them from there if you want | 21:03 |
tonyb | networking-midonet is a little flakey but I'm preety sure ihar is working on that | 21:03 |
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tonyb | heat and zaqar seem to have developed a failure in the last week which I'll check out if noon else opts-in ... | 21:04 |
tonyb | anthing else for status? | 21:05 |
apevec | heat docs jobs have been failing after new troveclient release | 21:05 |
apevec | b/c they're not using u-c afaict | 21:05 |
tonyb | apevec: Ah okay | 21:06 |
sigmavirus | as for the glance test_reload failure, no one's been able to reproduce it locally | 21:06 |
apevec | zaqar last failed Nov 19 | 21:06 |
apevec | so looks like they fixed it (it was mitaka) | 21:06 |
tonyb | apevec: Do you want to do that ? add constraints support in heat? | 21:06 |
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sigmavirus | It's admittedly a rather poor test, but it seems to work most of the time | 21:06 |
apevec | I asked heat folks in a backport trying to fix that | 21:06 |
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apevec | I can take action to chase that down or just do it | 21:07 |
tonyb | apevec: Cool | 21:07 |
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apevec | here is the backport I and Ihar -1ed https://review.openstack.org/400063 | 21:08 |
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tonyb | moving on?Oh yeah that's the wrong solution :( | 21:09 |
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tonyb | I'l skip action itesm as there aren't any due to no meetings ;P | 21:10 |
apevec | yes, let's move no - BTW are we updating https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-tracker ? | 21:10 |
tonyb | #topic release status | 21:10 |
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tonyb | So last week I was supposed to announce the EOL plan and "nominations" then I had a bunch of unplanned time off | 21:11 |
sigmavirus | :/ | 21:11 |
tonyb | I know a few teams have proposed final realeases but I don't know exactly where we're at | 21:11 |
apevec | Matt has pre-announced it | 21:11 |
apevec | I've seen Nova and Cinder(merged) | 21:11 |
tonyb | so my plan is to send a list of "theese are the repos we want to EOL" to os-dev | 21:11 |
tonyb | and then email all the PTLs and CPLs that dont' already have a final realeas up or out to see if they're going to do that thing | 21:12 |
apevec | +1 | 21:12 |
sigmavirus | +1 | 21:12 |
tonyb | I'll give until Monday next week, then I'll work with infra to EOL the appropriate branches | 21:12 |
tonyb | this shoudl be the last time we need to do this as when we EOL mitaka it'll be included in the openstack/releases process | 21:13 |
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apevec | cool | 21:13 |
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tonyb | and I'll just propose reviews there and PTLs/CPLs can +/-1 them | 21:13 |
tonyb | As to common topic I don't think there is one but I could make one and change the topic on the open reviews | 21:14 |
tonyb | perhaps eol-liberty-work ? | 21:15 |
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sigmavirus | sgtm | 21:15 |
tonyb | sigmavirus: cool. | 21:15 |
apevec | anything, just to be used consistently :) | 21:15 |
tonyb | If y'all see any reviews that shoudl be on the topic please feel free to chnage it | 21:16 |
tonyb | apevec: Yeah :) | 21:16 |
tonyb | So the agenda needs a clean out ... but | 21:16 |
tonyb | #topic meeting time | 21:16 |
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tonyb | So sigmavirus called out that we've let these slide and I proposed that we switch the times up so I can be in both the meetings | 21:17 |
tonyb | #link https://review.openstack.org/398363 is that thing | 21:18 |
sigmavirus | I removed the workflow just now in the event we come to a conclusion here | 21:18 |
tonyb | please vote on it or the m/l I'll juggle 2 hats and get that merged or an alternate proposed | 21:18 |
tonyb | I haven't actually checked the review but assuming it matches my email proposal I'm +1 :) | 21:19 |
apevec | is today odd or even week? | 21:19 |
tonyb | odd | 21:19 |
apevec | ah then cal -w has a bug :) | 21:19 |
tonyb | apevec: Oh I could be wrong | 21:20 |
tonyb | apevec: date +%V ? | 21:20 |
apevec | no you're right, google says its week 47 | 21:20 |
apevec | ok, date is right too | 21:20 |
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apevec | sorry for sidetracking | 21:21 |
apevec | I've +1 new meeting time proposal | 21:21 |
tonyb | so I see one minor complication ... we'd need to move into -3 (for both) but Meh it's all about the timing not the room | 21:22 |
tonyb | okay | 21:22 |
tonyb | I'd like to get a +1 from Matt and Ihar I'll nag them | 21:22 |
tonyb | Matt seemed fine with it on the list so maybe we should just ping Ihar | 21:22 |
* tonyb has to work late tonight so I'll do that when we overlap | 21:23 | |
tonyb | #action tonby to ping ihar re: meeting time | 21:23 |
tonyb | okay | 21:23 |
tonyb | #topic open discussion | 21:23 |
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tonyb | anything? | 21:23 |
apevec | I had one question in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361116/2//COMMIT_MSG@12 | 21:24 |
apevec | but I think answer is meh, we're EOLing it :) | 21:24 |
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tonyb | apevec: Yeah I think that EOLing it is the easy option | 21:24 |
apevec | tl;dr liberty u-c is a mess, not worth fixing it at EOL | 21:25 |
tonyb | we messed up constratins on liberty but we wont make *that* mistake again .... we'll try for new and fresh ones :) | 21:25 |
tonyb | Anything else or are we done? | 21:27 |
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apevec | I'm good | 21:27 |
sigmavirus | I've nothing | 21:28 |
tonyb | Thanks sigmavirus, apevec | 21:28 |
tonyb | #endmeeting | 21:28 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 21 21:28:34 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:28 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-11-21-21.00.html | 21:28 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-11-21-21.00.txt | 21:28 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-11-21-21.00.log.html | 21:28 |
apevec | thanks tonyb | 21:28 |
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