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| yuli_s | hello | 09:00 |
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| oanson | #startmeeting Dragonflow | 09:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 14 09:00:19 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oanson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'dragonflow' | 09:00 |
| oanson | Hello. | 09:00 |
| dimak | Good morning | 09:00 |
| oanson | Welcome to Dragonflow weekly. | 09:00 |
| lihi | Hi | 09:00 |
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| rajivk | Hi | 09:00 |
| oanson | Reminder, the agenda is posted here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Dragonflow | 09:00 |
| xiaohhui | hello | 09:00 |
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| oanson | I doubt we will cover everything, but here's hoping | 09:01 |
| oanson | #info yuli_s dimak lihi rajivk xiaohhui In meeting | 09:01 |
| oanson | All right. Let's start. | 09:02 |
| oanson | #topic Ocata Roadmap | 09:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ocata Roadmap (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:02 | |
| oanson | There are some specs that were uploaded this week | 09:02 |
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| oanson | I think they need to be merged by Thursday to make the first milestone | 09:02 |
| oanson | Let's start with IPv6 | 09:03 |
| oanson | #link IPv6 spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396226/ | 09:03 |
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| oanson | lihi, I take it you fixed the previous comments on the spec? | 09:04 |
| oanson | Anyone, if you have any open questions about it, this is the time | 09:04 |
| yuval | hey all :) | 09:04 |
| lihi | Yes. I've upload an update to the spec a few minutes ago. | 09:04 |
| oanson | All right. No questions are good questions :) | 09:05 |
| oanson | Next up is SFC. | 09:05 |
| oanson | #link Service Function Chaining (SFC) spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396226/ | 09:05 |
| oanson | #link Service Function Chaining (SFC) spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/394498/ | 09:05 |
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| oanson | Wrong copy-paste buffer. | 09:05 |
| dimak | I'm waiting for more comments on the spec | 09:05 |
| oanson | All right. I should be able to go over all the specs today. | 09:06 |
| dimak | I've addressed all the comments and uploaded an new patchset yesterday | 09:06 |
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| oanson | Yes. It looks like there are no new comments yet. | 09:06 |
| dimak | I'd love to see the lbaas spec to see if I can use it for load balancing between sfcs | 09:06 |
| dimak | SFs* | 09:06 |
| xiaohhui | is there a lbaas spec? | 09:07 |
| oanson | I received a draft of the LB spec. | 09:07 |
| oanson | The author will upload it today. | 09:07 |
| xiaohhui | OK | 09:07 |
| dimak | other than that, I hope the spec is extensive enough | 09:08 |
| oanson | Looks like no one has any complaints :) | 09:09 |
| dimak | thats all for me then | 09:09 |
| oanson | Next up is chassis health/service health report | 09:09 |
| xiaohhui | I have reply comments in the spec and hope rajivk can give some input based on that | 09:10 |
| oanson | #link Is chassis alive support https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385719/ | 09:10 |
| oanson | xiaohhui, rajivk, maybe you'd like to take this chance for the discussion? | 09:10 |
| xiaohhui | Sure | 09:11 |
| oanson | We may be able to close any loose ends quickly in this format | 09:11 |
| rajivk | xiaohhui, can you share your thought? | 09:11 |
| rajivk | i could not check my mail today on gmail | 09:11 |
| rajivk | it is banned in my organization. | 09:11 |
| rajivk | What do you think, should we do it together or separately? | 09:12 |
| xiaohhui | I added comments at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385719/7/doc/source/specs/support_check_chassis_alive.rst@39 | 09:12 |
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| xiaohhui | to add my thought about service monitor | 09:12 |
| oanson | xiaohhui, I see you mostly recommend using Neutron's ProcessManager? | 09:13 |
| xiaohhui | Yeah, I think that will be simpler | 09:13 |
| oanson | Can we use that for the DF local controller too? | 09:13 |
| xiaohhui | I don't think so, df local controller should act as the controller to other service. | 09:14 |
| oanson | I also saw it has some accuracy issues. Is that something you ran into? (Or was that only in my setup) | 09:14 |
| rajivk | what do you think about each service reporting it's own status? | 09:14 |
| xiaohhui | oanson: what do you mean by accuracy issues? | 09:15 |
| oanson | Sometimes is shows that agents which have failed that they are still alive | 09:15 |
| xiaohhui | rajivk: I think that is ok too, but what's the purpose for that? | 09:15 |
| oanson | And shows agents that are still alive as failed | 09:15 |
| xiaohhui | You mean the neutron agent status, right? | 09:16 |
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| oanson | With Neutron's ProcessManager, my understanding is that each process sends a heartbeat, and you have a monitor reporting that heartbeats are missing. xiaohhui, is that correct? | 09:16 |
| xiaohhui | Neutron's ProcessManager run in one process, and in that process, the process will be checked, if the process dies, the monitored process will be restarted | 09:17 |
| xiaohhui | For example the metadata-ns-proxy in neutron-l3-agent | 09:18 |
| xiaohhui | neutron-l3-agent manages metadata-ns-proxy by using ProcessManager, to keep it always alive. | 09:18 |
| oanson | And metadata-ns-proxy updates the Neutron database with a heartbeat_timestamp? This way the l3 agent knows the ns-proxy service is alive? | 09:19 |
| xiaohhui | no, l3 agent check metadata-ns-proxy's aliveness by checking its pid file | 09:20 |
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| xiaohhui | no hearbeat is required for metadata-ns-proxy | 09:20 |
| oanson | I'm a little confused. | 09:21 |
| oanson | You recommend that local controller verifies health of other services (metadata, l3-agent, publisher) by checking their PID. | 09:21 |
| oanson | And reporting at intervals to the database for itself? | 09:22 |
| oanson | And have the publisher on the Neutron server be called via the ProcessManager? Where health-check is managed automatically? | 09:22 |
| xiaohhui | yeah, that is the model of neutron agents for now. agents report to neutron db periodly, however, sub-process will be managed by ProcessManager | 09:23 |
| oanson | I see. | 09:23 |
| xiaohhui | publisher can be managed by neutron server, as it only needs to work with neutron server(maybe not need to live with neutron server) | 09:24 |
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| oanson | We could maintain that model. Have the local controller monitor other df services. When it reports to the database, it will report the health of all services. The only issue is that these services are started outside of the controller. | 09:24 |
| oanson | The publisher has to live with the neutron server, since the communicate over IPC. Currently, it is started externally (But obviously this can be changed) | 09:25 |
| oanson | I think it is started externally to avoid the q-svc forking issue. | 09:25 |
| xiaohhui | If we decided to go that way, some changes need to be made for starting process | 09:25 |
| oanson | Yes. | 09:26 |
| oanson | Good thing this is the start of the cycle :) | 09:26 |
| oanson | The metadata service can be started from the DF metadata app. | 09:27 |
| xiaohhui | I am thinking adding more information to chassis, we can definitely add the status of sub-process to chassis too. | 09:27 |
| oanson | We can write a centralised snat app to maintain df-l3-agent. | 09:27 |
| xiaohhui | yeah, so that if user don't add the metadata app, the metadata proxy service don't need to be started | 09:27 |
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| oanson | I need to review the Neutron code, but I'm sure we can find the correct place to add the publisher service startup code | 09:28 |
| oanson | xiaohhui, yes. Same for the l3 agent. | 09:28 |
| xiaohhui | we can wait for the distributed snat and then remove df-l3-agent, right? | 09:28 |
| oanson | That's the plan | 09:28 |
| oanson | But with this change, centralised snat can still be used, as a DF app. | 09:28 |
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| oanson | Which is more in-line with our global design | 09:29 |
| xiaohhui | I guess that is something can be implemented. | 09:29 |
| oanson | Sounds like we're in agreement. rajivk, any comments? | 09:29 |
| rajivk | i am still going through your dicussion | 09:30 |
| rajivk | :) | 09:30 |
| rajivk | You can continue | 09:30 |
| oanson | All right. We can take a second to breathe :) | 09:30 |
| xiaohhui | We can continue our discussion in the spec, if we miss something here. | 09:30 |
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| oanson | Sounds like a plan | 09:30 |
| rajivk | No, it is ok, you carry on with the meeting. | 09:30 |
| rajivk | I will need extra effort to understand, what you mean :) | 09:31 |
| oanson | rajivk, no worries. We're here for any follow-ups. | 09:31 |
| rajivk | oanson, thanks :) | 09:31 |
| oanson | I'll skip ahead for a bit: | 09:32 |
| oanson | LBaaS, as I said, the spec should be up today. | 09:32 |
| oanson | I also received a draft for sNAT. I can't promise it will be up today, but I hope by tomorrow. | 09:32 |
| irenaber | oanson, to support V2 apis? | 09:32 |
| oanson | Yes | 09:32 |
| irenaber | for LBaaS | 09:32 |
| oanson | V1 has been removed in Newton, so supporting it is a bit... | 09:33 |
| oanson | Let's move on to Tap as a service. | 09:34 |
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| oanson | #link Tap as a service (TAPaaS) spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396307/ | 09:34 |
| oanson | yamamoto added some comments about the TAP location. | 09:35 |
| oanson | yuli_s, would you like to discuss the two TODO items? | 09:35 |
| oanson | no. 1 (TAP destination port on different compute nodes) should be easy to tackle. | 09:36 |
| yuli_s | yes, sure | 09:36 |
| oanson | We already have everything in place. Just need to update the correct parameters, and send to the table that handles tunneling. | 09:36 |
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| yuli_s | i got a comments from Yamamoto | 09:36 |
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| yuli_s | that the packets should be intercepted after the SG | 09:37 |
| oanson | Yes. He mentions that security groups should be taken into account. | 09:37 |
| oanson | Could you please verify and update the spec? | 09:37 |
| yuli_s | so, I need to update the spec with his comments | 09:37 |
| oanson | Yes | 09:37 |
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| yuli_s | I will review the rules and release a new version today | 09:38 |
| yuli_s | os the spec | 09:38 |
| yuli_s | of the spec | 09:38 |
| oanson | Great. | 09:38 |
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| oanson | About TAP of a TAP. Do you have any thoughts? | 09:38 |
| yuli_s | regarding the second item | 09:38 |
| yuli_s | yes, tap of the tap | 09:38 |
| oanson | Any thoughts? | 09:39 |
| yuli_s | i think I need additional time | 09:39 |
| yuli_s | to research this | 09:39 |
| oanson | Sure. | 09:39 |
| yuli_s | because dimak suggested that it can create a loop | 09:40 |
| oanson | Sure. Worst comes to worst, we can leave it as a limitation in Ocata. | 09:40 |
| yuli_s | ok, great | 09:40 |
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| yuli_s | I would like to get oppinion of all the experts | 09:41 |
| oanson | But that will have to be written in the spec. And if you can make it after all, that would be better | 09:41 |
| oanson | Also don't forget to treat dimak 's comments about router ports and dhcp ports. | 09:41 |
| yuli_s | if the target VM ( the one that should receive the intercepted traffic) | 09:41 |
| yuli_s | has seurity group in place | 09:41 |
| yuli_s | should we filter that traffic of other hosts as well ? | 09:41 |
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| yuli_s | ok, I will write this in spec and we will see other people opinon | 09:43 |
| oanson | yuli_s, could you explain a bit more? | 09:43 |
| oanson | I'm not sure I understand the question | 09:43 |
| yuli_s | as I understand the comments from Yamamoto, it is not clear if we need to filter traffic 2 times | 09:44 |
| yuli_s | ones when the traffic leaves the source vm | 09:44 |
| yuli_s | and another when it received by target VM | 09:44 |
| yuli_s | (I am talking here about tapped traffic) | 09:45 |
| yuli_s | I will write to Yamamoto to get his comments, | 09:46 |
| oanson | I think it would be best to understand how TAPaaS should work with SG | 09:46 |
| yuli_s | lets continue | 09:46 |
| oanson | The above is already an implementation question, but I would like to understand the requirement. | 09:46 |
| oanson | yuli_s, please do. I think this needs clearing up. | 09:46 |
| oanson | All right, this is all for roadmap. | 09:46 |
| oanson | Is there a spec, blueprint, or feature I missed? | 09:47 |
| oanson | Remember, to meet the Ocata milestones, we need these merged by the end of the week. | 09:47 |
| oanson | I think we're in good shape! | 09:47 |
| oanson | #topic bugs | 09:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:48 | |
| oanson | Status hasn't changed since last week. There is still one High priority bug with no progress | 09:48 |
| oanson | Bug 1638151 | 09:48 |
| openstack | bug 1638151 in DragonFlow "Router schedule error in L3 router plugin as there are multi-external network" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1638151 - Assigned to rajiv (rajiv-kumar) | 09:48 |
| xiaohhui | I think I can give a look to it from neutron side, | 09:49 |
| xiaohhui | After another thought, I think it might be a neutron issue, but I need more investigation | 09:49 |
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| oanson | Currently its assigned to rajivk, so make sure you guys aren't stepping on each others' toes | 09:50 |
| rajivk | I will abondon it | 09:50 |
| xiaohhui | sorry, I didn't notice that it has owner | 09:50 |
| rajivk | I know, it is high priority | 09:50 |
| oanson | xiaohhui, that's all right. That;s why we are discussing it :) | 09:50 |
| rajivk | and xiaohhui can do it better than me | 09:50 |
| oanson | My question is, is it really high priority? Are there any functional issues, except the thrown error? | 09:51 |
| oanson | (I asked this also on the bug) | 09:51 |
| xiaohhui | if we don't eager to support mult-external network, I think it is ok | 09:51 |
| xiaohhui | don't -> aren't | 09:52 |
| oanson | All right. Then I'll reduce it to medium | 09:53 |
| oanson | I think everything else is under control. I want to concentrate on specs this weekl | 09:53 |
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| rajivk | I have removed myself from assignee | 09:53 |
| oanson | week* | 09:53 |
| oanson | Anything else for bugs? | 09:53 |
| oanson | #topic Open Discussion | 09:54 |
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| oanson | The floor is for the taking | 09:54 |
| xiaohhui | If you guys have extra time | 09:54 |
| xiaohhui | I would like to you to review this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339975/ | 09:54 |
| oanson | I'll try and get to it today/tomorrow | 09:55 |
| xiaohhui | it is in merge conflict now, but it will be updated soon | 09:55 |
| xiaohhui | thanks | 09:55 |
| oanson | It's not in merge conflict... | 09:55 |
| xiaohhui | my eyes go wrong... | 09:56 |
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| oanson | You mean patch: "add active detection app for allowed address pairs" | 09:56 |
| oanson | ? | 09:56 |
| xiaohhui | yeah | 09:56 |
| oanson | Sure. I'll look at it today/tomorrow :) | 09:57 |
| xiaohhui | it is in merge conflict, I give it another glance... | 09:57 |
| xiaohhui | anyway, thanks | 09:57 |
| oanson | Sure. | 09:57 |
| oanson | Anything else? | 09:57 |
| xiaohhui | nothing from me... | 09:57 |
| oanson | Great. Then we can go to eat :) | 09:58 |
| oanson | Thanks everyone for coming! | 09:58 |
| oanson | #endmeeting | 09:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 14 09:58:30 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-11-14-09.00.html | 09:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-11-14-09.00.txt | 09:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-11-14-09.00.log.html | 09:58 |
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| vikasc | #startmeeting kuryr | 14:11 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 14 14:11:49 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is vikasc. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:11 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:11 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kuryr' | 14:11 |
| vikasc | Hello everybody and welcome to another Kuryr weekly IRC meeting | 14:12 |
| ivc_ | o/ | 14:12 |
| irenab_ | hi | 14:12 |
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| vikasc | who's here to chat? | 14:12 |
| * pc_m lurking again | 14:12 | |
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| limao_ | o/ | 14:12 |
| alraddarla_ | o/ | 14:12 |
| lmdaly | o/ | 14:12 |
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| vikasc | #info ivc_ irenab vikasc alraddarla_ lmdaly joined the meeting | 14:13 |
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| mchiappero | o/ | 14:13 |
| vikasc | #topic kuryr-libnetwork | 14:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "kuryr-libnetwork (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:13 | |
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| vikasc | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/394547/ | 14:14 |
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| irenab | there are jenkins failures | 14:15 |
| mchiappero | yes | 14:15 |
| mchiappero | I'm updating the unit test files | 14:15 |
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| vikasc | lmdaly has a WIP patch for moving binding from join to create_endpoint | 14:15 |
| mchiappero | I hope to finish today or tomorrow | 14:15 |
| vikasc | thanks mchiappero | 14:15 |
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| vikasc | I observed that currently kuryr-libnetwork is missing neutron call for updating port with --allowed-address-pair incase ipvlan driver is used in nested container case | 14:17 |
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| irenab | vikasc, link to bug? | 14:17 |
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| mchiappero | yes, that's because there is a patch missing | 14:17 |
| mchiappero | being worked on | 14:18 |
| lmdaly | We are working on a patch to create a driver based model for libnetwork to do this | 14:18 |
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| vikasc | irenab, no bug report yet | 14:18 |
| vikasc | irenab, just an random observation | 14:18 |
| irenab | guys, please report bugs once you observe them | 14:18 |
| vikasc | irenab, sure, i was planning to raise after discussion | 14:18 |
| vikasc | thanks lmdaly and mchiappero for the update!! | 14:19 |
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| irenab | lmdaly, can you please elaborate on driver based model? | 14:19 |
| lmdaly | not concrete on the idea yet, but thinking much like the model introduced in kuryr-lib | 14:20 |
| mchiappero | there is actually another open point regarding IPVLAN | 14:21 |
| lmdaly | with a config file option and different implementations based on the driver | 14:21 |
| mchiappero | the fact is that libnetwork seems to assign the MAC address, but the IPVLAN driver doesn't have such capability | 14:21 |
| mchiappero | so it fails | 14:22 |
| lmdaly | will push a WIP patch as soon as possible to get feedback on the structure | 14:22 |
| irenab | lmdaly, got it, thanks. sounds as a good approach to keep code base better separated | 14:22 |
| mchiappero | do we have any contact we can leverage in docker? | 14:22 |
| mchiappero | also the libnetwork specs are confusing at times, we need clarifications there | 14:22 |
| vikasc | may be banix would have helped | 14:22 |
| irenab | I am not aware of any, probably mailing list option | 14:23 |
| mchiappero | if you know someone personaly let us know | 14:23 |
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| mchiappero | ok, thanks | 14:23 |
| vikasc | i messed up the order :P | 14:23 |
| vikasc | #topic kuryr-lib | 14:23 |
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| vikasc | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397057/ | 14:24 |
| irenab | vikasc, unit testing is missing | 14:24 |
| vikasc | i pushed a small fix in ipvlan/macvlan driver ip assignment | 14:24 |
| mchiappero | I'm not too sure I understand this patch | 14:25 |
| mchiappero | the previous behaviour seemed to be correct to me | 14:25 |
| vikasc | mchiappero, would you mind please adding your comments to patch | 14:26 |
| vikasc | irenab, will add if fix is valid :) | 14:26 |
| mchiappero | I will, but I need to find some time to better review and maybe test it :) | 14:27 |
| limao_ | in utils._configure_container_iface, it add ip onto the macvlan/ipvlan device, the ip should be not is vm-port | 14:27 |
| vikasc | mchiappero, np, we can still discuss offline. i will ping you | 14:27 |
| limao_ | the ip should be not is vm-port -> the ip should not be vm-port fixed ip | 14:27 |
| lmdaly | for the demo I passed in port as vm-port and nested_port as dangling neutron port with the container_ip | 14:28 |
| irenab | maybe the name is confusing, I thought nested port is the container port | 14:28 |
| mchiappero | it is/should br | 14:28 |
| mchiappero | *be | 14:28 |
| vikasc | irenab, nested_port seems to be vm_port to me | 14:28 |
| vikasc | irenab, because in veth driver, this is not being even used | 14:29 |
| lmdaly | I would have thought the same as irenab | 14:29 |
| irenab | then it should be nesting_port :-) | 14:29 |
| limao_ | I was thought it is vm-port... | 14:29 |
| vikasc | i will take a look again | 14:29 |
| mchiappero | me too | 14:29 |
| lmdaly | seems we need a name change :) | 14:30 |
| vikasc | request everbody to please review the same | 14:30 |
| limao_ | since nowhere actually use this param now.. | 14:30 |
| irenab | if its not in use, better to remove it | 14:30 |
| vikasc | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361993/ | 14:30 |
| lmdaly | it will be used for the driver patch we introduce for libnetwork | 14:31 |
| vikasc | irenab, it will be used in trunk port case | 14:31 |
| irenab | then lets just improve the name | 14:31 |
| vikasc | irenab, +1 | 14:31 |
| vikasc | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361993/ | 14:31 |
| vikasc | WIP patch for adding vlan driver support | 14:32 |
| irenab | vikasc, I posted few comments | 14:32 |
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| vikasc | thanks irenab, i will go through them | 14:33 |
| vikasc | intention is to leverage neutron trunk ports | 14:33 |
| limao_ | a quick question, in which use case we need to use local vlan? I see local vlan manage in that patch | 14:34 |
| limao_ | I mean : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361993/11/kuryr/lib/segmentation_type_drivers/vlan.py | 14:35 |
| vikasc | limao_, for the isolation of traffic from containers | 14:35 |
| vikasc | limao_, on the vm only | 14:35 |
| irenab | limao_, vlan is to identify the container | 14:35 |
| limao_ | you mean in vm-nested case with subport trunk port? | 14:35 |
| vikasc | limao_, yes | 14:36 |
| irenab | yes | 14:36 |
| limao_ | In my currently understanding, the vlan in vm should not be local vlan, it should be same vlan as subport | 14:36 |
| vikasc | limao_, vlan of subport menas? | 14:37 |
| limao_ | (I'm not sure if I miss something here since I has not actually tried trunk port now) | 14:37 |
| vikasc | limao_, sorry, can you please reword your question | 14:38 |
| limao_ | The VM should be trunk port, in case it using vlan 100,200 | 14:38 |
| limao_ | then the container on this vm should just use eth0.100, eth0.200, right? | 14:38 |
| irenab | limao_, I think the idea is to use trunk port neutron APIs to get something similar to what OVN did: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/networking-ovn/containers.html | 14:39 |
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| limao_ | oh... let me check offline, thanks for the info , irenab, vikasc | 14:39 |
| ivc_ | limao_, irenab, we are we talking about vlan-aware-vms or ipvlan-based trunk ports? | 14:40 |
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| limao_ | I think it should be vlan-aware-vms | 14:40 |
| irenab | vikasc, may I raise one question that ks more related to the open discussion part, just need to drop in 5 mins | 14:40 |
| irenab | ivc_, vlan aware vms | 14:41 |
| vikasc | irenab, sure, please go ahead | 14:41 |
| irenab | there is a design summit in February | 14:41 |
| irenab | I didn't see kuryr in the list of confirmed projects, I wonder if anyone plans to attend | 14:41 |
| limao_ | PTG? | 14:42 |
| irenab | yes | 14:42 |
| limao_ | I do not see it on list too | 14:42 |
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| vikasc | #action need to confirm with Toni on PTG. | 14:42 |
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| irenab | vikasc, thanks. Please keep going according to the usual route | 14:43 |
| vikasc | irenab, thanks :) | 14:43 |
| limao_ | thanks irenab | 14:43 |
| vikasc | ivc_, yes vlan aware vms | 14:43 |
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| vikasc | limao_, as per my understanding scope of vlans(vlan-per-container) will be local to vm only | 14:44 |
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| limao_ | ivc_ , vikasc: I was thought we do not need manage local vlan in kuryr, just use the vlan of the subport | 14:44 |
| vikasc | limao_, i could not get chance to have a look at ovn way yet | 14:44 |
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| ivc_ | limao_, vikasc, we need to manage vlans for subports | 14:45 |
| vikasc | limao_, i think i got your point | 14:45 |
| ivc_ | because when you create sub-port in neutron we either specify the vid, or let neutron set it | 14:46 |
| ivc_ | but we need to coordinate subports (on neutron) with the ethX.Y inside the vm | 14:46 |
| vikasc | ivc_, +1 | 14:46 |
| limao_ | Is this info can be get when container create? or we need to cache it in kuryr? | 14:47 |
| vikasc | ivc_, we are talking about this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361993/ | 14:47 |
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| apuimedo | \o/ | 14:47 |
| vikasc | limao_, we will have to manage in kuryr | 14:48 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, hello | 14:48 |
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| limao_ | apuimedo :-) you get released ? | 14:48 |
| vikasc | handover to you apuimedo | 14:48 |
| vikasc | and many many congrats | 14:48 |
| irenab | have to leave, will catch up on the log | 14:48 |
| vikasc | :) | 14:48 |
| apuimedo | yup | 14:49 |
| apuimedo | we're all home | 14:49 |
| mchiappero | :) | 14:49 |
| apuimedo | sorry I couldn't make it 50min earlier | 14:49 |
| mchiappero | doing well? | 14:49 |
| ivc_ | apuimedo, congrats on your daughter release ! | 14:49 |
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| apuimedo | thanks! | 14:49 |
| lmdaly | congrats! :) | 14:49 |
| apuimedo | it was a hard fork! | 14:49 |
| vikasc | sweets........... | 14:49 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, laddu | 14:49 |
| vikasc | :) | 14:49 |
| apuimedo | but the new process is running strong and consuming a lot of resources | 14:49 |
| apuimedo | as it should | 14:49 |
| apuimedo | thank you all | 14:50 |
| mchiappero | :) | 14:50 |
| apuimedo | are we in kuryr-kubernetes part or in open discussion already? | 14:50 |
| vikasc | just starting | 14:50 |
| ivc_ | neither | 14:50 |
| vikasc | #topic kuryr-kubernetes | 14:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "kuryr-kubernetes (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:50 | |
| ivc_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/376044/2/kuryr_kubernetes/controller/handlers/vif.py@71 | 14:51 |
| apuimedo | only 9min remaining | 14:51 |
| * vikasc feeling sorry for poor time-management | 14:51 | |
| apuimedo | sorry, it's because my email was not sent properly | 14:51 |
| ivc_ | polling for neutron port activation seems to be a hot topic | 14:51 |
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| ivc_ | but i've checked and it is the same in kuryr-libnetwork | 14:51 |
| ivc_ | #link https://github.com/openstack/kuryr-libnetwork/blob/master/kuryr_libnetwork/controllers.py#L342-L360 | 14:52 |
| apuimedo | #action apuimedo to address vikasc comments to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396113/ | 14:52 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: yes, that was a relatively recent addition from banix | 14:52 |
| ivc_ | so i was thinking if it is worth adding some notification-based mechanism for both projects to check for port activation | 14:52 |
| apuimedo | only for ovs, iirc | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | well, we have an open door to do it in neutron for both | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | just as it does for nova | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | so that's the long term solution I'd like | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | or the one that I think is more doable | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: did you see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396113/ ? I think it addresses the loopback requirement you noted to me | 14:54 |
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| ivc_ | apuimedo, yes, but need to test it (the cni binary is 'lo' instead of 'loopback') | 14:54 |
| apuimedo | yeah... I need to test it too | 14:55 |
| apuimedo | I had to run to the hospital just after writing it xD | 14:55 |
| mchiappero | :D | 14:56 |
| apuimedo | almost literally | 14:56 |
| vikasc | :D | 14:56 |
| apuimedo | also | 14:56 |
| mchiappero | maybe the code was ready too | 14:56 |
| apuimedo | I want to add to devstack to set kubectl config | 14:56 |
| mchiappero | :P | 14:56 |
| apuimedo | :D | 14:56 |
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| limao_ | apuimedo： you will get more sleepless night now | 14:56 |
| apuimedo | to make development easier | 14:56 |
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| apuimedo | limao_: yeah, more time for coding | 14:56 |
| limao_ | :) | 14:56 |
| apuimedo | one eye on the baby and one on the screen, like a chameleon | 14:57 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, height of optimism | 14:57 |
| apuimedo | indeed | 14:57 |
| apuimedo | anyway. I will be working part time for a few weeks now | 14:58 |
| apuimedo | I still should be able to finish cni and do these devstack improvements :-) | 14:58 |
| limao_ | home is always first :) | 14:58 |
| vikasc | limao_, +1 | 14:58 |
| apuimedo | very true limao_ | 14:58 |
| apuimedo | anything else about kuryr-kubernetes before we close? | 14:58 |
| apuimedo | I'd appreciate that people try the devstack and start to play with the environment and review ivc_'s code if they haven't started already | 14:59 |
| ivc_ | apuimedo, well we could discuss the cni-daemon idea next week | 14:59 |
| ivc_ | since its a long-term idea anyway | 15:00 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: good point | 15:00 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: we can even do an extraordinary irc meeting some time in the week in #openstack-kuryr | 15:00 |
| apuimedo | vikasc: we must close the meeting now and move to #openstack-kuryr | 15:00 |
| jimbaker | apuimedo, thanks | 15:00 |
| apuimedo | I'm sure there's people waiting to take the room :P | 15:01 |
| vikasc | sure | 15:01 |
| ivc_ | apuimedo, sure | 15:01 |
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| vikasc | #end-meeting | 15:01 |
| jimbaker | #startmeeting craton | 15:01 |
| openstack | jimbaker: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 15:01 |
| jimbaker | vikasc, ^^^ | 15:01 |
| apuimedo | vikasc: endmeeting | 15:01 |
| apuimedo | not end-meeting | 15:01 |
| vikasc | #endmeeting | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 14 15:01:52 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-11-14-14.11.html | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-11-14-14.11.txt | 15:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-11-14-14.11.log.html | 15:01 |
| apuimedo | ;-) | 15:01 |
| jimbaker | #startmeeting craton | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 14 15:02:00 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jimbaker. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| vikasc | sorry jimbaker | 15:02 |
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| jimbaker | vikasc, np | 15:02 |
| sigmavirus | Good morning, all! | 15:02 |
| palendae | o/ | 15:02 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, hi, thanks for a good conversation on #craton about cachine | 15:02 |
| jimbaker | caching | 15:02 |
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| jimbaker | we can spend a few minutes this morning on this discussion, although it's of course fairly openended from the server perspective | 15:03 |
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| jimbaker | but from the client, it's straightforward | 15:03 |
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| palendae | Looks like. Invalidating will be the biggest concern now, but that's easy ;) | 15:04 |
| jimbaker | palendae, thanks for joining! | 15:04 |
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| jimbaker | palendae, it's only one of the so-called hardest problems in computer science | 15:05 |
| palendae | jimbaker: ;) | 15:05 |
| sigmavirus | palendae: so, i'm going to work on adding caching headers to the server | 15:05 |
| jimbaker | palendae, http://martinfowler.com/bliki/TwoHardThings.html | 15:05 |
| palendae | jimbaker: I know, I was making a joke | 15:05 |
| sigmavirus | CacheControl will then be used on the client side and will take care of invalidating thing sintelligently (as it does) | 15:05 |
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| palendae | sigmavirus: Ok, cool | 15:05 |
| jimbaker | yeah, i love the joke. especially the off by one part | 15:06 |
| jimbaker | but, hey, i am sort of in this field a bit too deep ;) | 15:06 |
| jimbaker | it's rubbed off | 15:06 |
| jimbaker | sulo, around? | 15:07 |
| jimbaker | syed__, hi | 15:07 |
| sulo | o/ | 15:07 |
| sulo | hi everyone | 15:07 |
| jimbaker | ok, looks like we have our quorum | 15:07 |
| syed__ | Hi guys | 15:07 |
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| sulo | hi syed__ | 15:08 |
| jimbaker | first, it's good to be back. i guess i have missed the last 3 of these meetings, between travel and vacation | 15:08 |
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| jimbaker | so let's get started with a quick standup of what we plan to be working on this week; and especially review progress | 15:09 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, you want to go first? | 15:10 |
| sigmavirus | Sure | 15:10 |
| sigmavirus | I'm going to having Flask provide proper cache-control headers to users, once that's in place, I'll rework my existing client work to rely on the much better (and more appropriate) cachecontrol library | 15:10 |
| sigmavirus | I'll start a review to add that library to global-requirements now so that we can maybe have that resolved by the time the client work is ready to be done | 15:10 |
| sigmavirus | </update> | 15:11 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, +1. what specific logic are you planning for the server side - just expiry time for the time being? | 15:11 |
| sigmavirus | jimbaker: no, thinking of providing ETags | 15:13 |
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| sigmavirus | Those are more reliable in my experience | 15:13 |
| sulo | probably add mod time | 15:13 |
| sigmavirus | sulo: you mean, "Last-Modified" so we can use "If-Modified-Since"? | 15:13 |
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| sulo | yeah | 15:13 |
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| sulo | etag woudl be difficult to do/ more server work ? | 15:14 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, sure, i think we would certainly prefer etags. just a concern of whether we can get quick/easy versioning out of what we have already | 15:14 |
| jimbaker | vs something simple like TTL based approaches | 15:14 |
| sulo | probalby the best etag would be to add some sort of hash but then we'd have to compue that ... | 15:15 |
| sulo | ttl bases sutff probably would be bad ? | 15:15 |
| sigmavirus | we can start with Last-Modified, if that's what you all want | 15:16 |
| jimbaker | sulo, i started looking at a range of options that exist, such as NDB and its memcached support - supposedly we do get a version, not certain what it would mean for making it easy going forward | 15:16 |
| sigmavirus | So, to be clear, I'm not doing caching between the DB and the API | 15:16 |
| sulo | sigmavirus: +1 | 15:16 |
| sigmavirus | That's far more work than is necessary here | 15:16 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, yeah, agreed here | 15:16 |
| sigmavirus | I'm only providing cache-control headers as defined in the RFC to the clients | 15:16 |
| sulo | yeah that should be something different | 15:16 |
| sulo | yeah agreed | 15:16 |
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| jimbaker | we want to get the client to follow the server's direction - we can improve the server for its consistency with the database over time - a number of options | 15:17 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, ok, so that sounds great | 15:17 |
| palendae | From my perspective, I'm not too concerned about the underlying implementation, just that there are fewer roundtrips | 15:17 |
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| jimbaker | palendae, agreed - we should not get too worked up about server performance just yet :) | 15:18 |
| jimbaker | there are so many things we can do to improve that, and we can take advantage of a variety of approaches for a specific setup | 15:18 |
| jimbaker | sulo, what is this week looking like for you? | 15:19 |
| sulo | So i just started looking at functional testing | 15:20 |
| sulo | i have a bunch of reviews in place (i need to update the filter pr .. which i will do later today) | 15:20 |
| sulo | but will probalby get the functional testing going this week | 15:20 |
| jimbaker | sulo, sounds good about the filter update. i think that's pretty much ironed out in those comments, in terms of removing in support + using ?vars=x:y | 15:21 |
| sulo | yeah, i think this makes sense | 15:21 |
| jimbaker | sulo, i expect we we will want to use some variant on jsonpath for the equiv of the in operator; and probably just pass complex queries in the request | 15:22 |
| jimbaker | but deferring means we can figure that out :) | 15:22 |
| sulo | yeah agreed, we can do that as impovement work .. | 15:22 |
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| jimbaker | sulo, re functional testing - so this will be using docker-py? | 15:23 |
| sulo | yeah i think | 15:23 |
| sulo | i think so | 15:23 |
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| jimbaker | sulo, ack, follows what we have been doing manually, so it seems to make sense | 15:23 |
| sulo | i have a question | 15:24 |
| jimbaker | sulo, did you write up your barcelona observations for openstack-dev? (i still need to do mine, although i did speak about it for an OSIC meeting) | 15:24 |
| jimbaker | sulo, ? | 15:24 |
| sulo | sigmavirus might know .. what happens on infra side if we choose to use docker based tests | 15:24 |
| sulo | jimbaker: i have not | 15:25 |
| sulo | i can do that if required | 15:25 |
| syed__ | Just a general question | 15:25 |
| syed__ | Dont we need tempest aswell? Since eventually this gets integrated in openstack | 15:25 |
| jimbaker | sulo, no worries, it was in the action items from last week that sigmavirus assigned you - but why don't i take responsibility for writing that email for us jointly | 15:25 |
| jimbaker | sort of my job :) | 15:25 |
| jimbaker | syed__, it's a great question - our perspective has been no, because we are not exactly like other openstack services | 15:26 |
| sulo | syed__: i dont think so ...but i am pinging someone to find out | 15:26 |
| sigmavirus | sulo: I don't know what happens on the infra side, but I think you have to do most of the orchestration yourself | 15:26 |
| sulo | sigmavirus: something like 3party thing ? | 15:27 |
| sigmavirus | syed__: so tempest is also a test framework, we can use tempest's libraries to craft our own tempest like tests, and that wouldn't be a bad idea | 15:27 |
| sigmavirus | sulo: no, more like running specific commands to run the functional tests on a VM provided by infra | 15:27 |
| sulo | sigmavirus: ah that we can do | 15:27 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, thanks for that clarification | 15:27 |
| sulo | sigmavirus: our vm is container here .. | 15:27 |
| sulo | sigmavirus: do they allow for us to sipin up docker during out test ? | 15:28 |
| sigmavirus | sulo: I think, yes | 15:28 |
| sulo | sigmavirus: cool, thx | 15:28 |
| jimbaker | sulo, which should be quite lightweight - just really requires that docker daemon is available | 15:28 |
| sulo | yeah | 15:28 |
| sulo | pretty much thats all our req is for that | 15:28 |
| syed__ | Thanks sigmavirus | 15:28 |
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| palendae | sulo: They definitely allow spinning up lxc containers, so Docker's probably allow | 15:30 |
| palendae | allowed* | 15:30 |
| jimbaker | syed__, the one piece where we see integration with openstack that we should test explicitly here: maybe testing against AIO builds with ansible (but that's really integration testing); and perhaps testing against some prebuilt nova setup when we implement virtualized variables | 15:30 |
| sulo | palendae: cool thats good to know | 15:30 |
| sigmavirus | Idk how kolla would test on openstack CI otherwise | 15:30 |
| palendae | Guessing Kolla spins up docker instances too | 15:30 |
| sulo | sigmavirus: palendae: yeah good point | 15:30 |
| jimbaker | yeah, this is pretty essential for actually testing openstack type stuff. one would think :) | 15:30 |
| sigmavirus | jimbaker: docker? yeah, no | 15:31 |
| sigmavirus | Craton is the only project that has a dockerfile and uses it as part of development afaik | 15:31 |
| jimbaker | just a question of how flexible the specifics are, and then how much we can abuse :) | 15:31 |
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| jimbaker | sigmavirus, so that's the abuse part | 15:31 |
| jimbaker | anyway, we will find out more. i'm not terribly worried about getting a docker daemon setup, given that we should be able to get a VM in the testing process. it just might be easier | 15:32 |
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| jimbaker | and something we can just build oin | 15:33 |
| jimbaker | on | 15:33 |
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| sulo | jimbaker: what | 15:33 |
| sulo | which vm ? | 15:33 |
| jimbaker | sulo, with respect to running our tests on openstack infra | 15:33 |
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| jimbaker | sulo, please ignore these concerns for now - i don't see any impact on what we are trying to do in terms of a dockerized way to do functional testing | 15:34 |
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| jimbaker | sulo, sound good? | 15:35 |
| sulo | yes | 15:35 |
| sulo | thats all from my side | 15:35 |
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| jimbaker | sulo, thanks! | 15:36 |
| jimbaker | palendae, good meeting with the OSA team last week in terms of figuring out OSA integration. anything more you want to discuss about what you plan to be working on this week? | 15:36 |
| palendae | jimbaker: I'm going to try to push forward on our refactorings and high level APIs | 15:37 |
| jimbaker | which means being able to put in some db backend in, like craton | 15:37 |
| palendae | Yeah, I think we'll need to get further along with the separations, but we're close | 15:38 |
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| palendae | There are some reviews from stevelle up now that are putting our existing implementations behind our agreed APIs | 15:38 |
| jimbaker | it seems like the merge approach means that it's really easy for craton as it is now | 15:38 |
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| jimbaker | we will find out shortly enough, which is good | 15:39 |
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| jimbaker | sulo, quick question - what's the status of being able to get at containers in the rest api? i would assume this is just using the host api, right? (since addressable) | 15:40 |
| sulo | yep | 15:40 |
| sulo | device_type=container | 15:40 |
| jimbaker | cool, just wanted to verify that assumption, and yeah, device_type | 15:41 |
| jimbaker | docs anyone? ;) | 15:41 |
| jimbaker | we will get there | 15:41 |
| sulo | this reminds me | 15:41 |
| sulo | we dont verify device_type .. perhaps we should | 15:41 |
| sulo | what i mean is .. you can put device_type=<anything> | 15:41 |
| jimbaker | sulo, in terms of a defined set of device_types? | 15:42 |
| sulo | yeah | 15:42 |
| jimbaker | maybe this should be a config option | 15:42 |
| jimbaker | could have a separate db table, seems more than what we need | 15:42 |
| jimbaker | don't want to hardcode however | 15:42 |
| sulo | i mean this could be as siimple as validating it to few predefined string | 15:43 |
| jimbaker | right, but it would be enumerated in the craton config | 15:43 |
| sulo | jimbaker: it can be in jsonschema vlidation schema | 15:43 |
| sulo | jimbaker: yeah can do that | 15:43 |
| jimbaker | sulo, jsonschema seems too hardcoded to me | 15:43 |
| jimbaker | jsonschema should just know it's a string | 15:44 |
| sulo | jimbaker: how do you mean, the schema is hardcoded | 15:44 |
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| sulo | anyway .. its not too important how we do it | 15:44 |
| jimbaker | sulo, because it seems like a valid config option for users | 15:44 |
| sulo | yeah | 15:44 |
| sulo | we can make it a config option | 15:45 |
| jimbaker | sulo, cool | 15:45 |
| sulo | lets create isuue for this for now | 15:45 |
| sulo | we can disscuss more when we get to it | 15:45 |
| jimbaker | #action sulo add issue for device_type configuration | 15:45 |
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| jimbaker | syed__, what are plans for this week? | 15:46 |
| jimbaker | your plans? | 15:46 |
| syed__ | So i will be working on crud devices to users, plus working on writing appropriate test and schema entries in client as per our current schema for regions, cells, hosts etc | 15:46 |
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| jimbaker | syed__, +1 | 15:47 |
| jimbaker | we will also follow up on RBAC this week | 15:47 |
| syed__ | sure, looking forward towards that | 15:47 |
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| jimbaker | me: work on blueprints (including RBAC with syed__); and finalize the resolution_order branch that's almost ready on my laptop | 15:48 |
| jimbaker | also i promised harlowja a fix on listener support in taskflow, so i will get that in | 15:48 |
| jimbaker | as time: revisit the taskflow stuff i did prior to the summit | 15:48 |
| jimbaker | almost got that working, but ran out of time | 15:49 |
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| jimbaker | so that was a nice discussion for the week. we will check in with jovon when he get in the office | 15:50 |
| syed__ | Sounds good to me | 15:50 |
| jimbaker | palendae, sigmavirus, sulo, syed__, any other topics we should cover for today? | 15:50 |
| sulo | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/craton/+spec/craton-notifications | 15:51 |
| sulo | just going to drop that here for everyone to looksee | 15:51 |
| sulo | in case someone wants to pick it up and run with it | 15:51 |
| jimbaker | sulo, ahh interesting. what are your thoughts on this implementation? it's very much related to RBAC given governance | 15:51 |
| jimbaker | i do see this as a separable task from say following the db's write ahead log | 15:52 |
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| sulo | yeah .. need to check if there is already a notification thing in oslo | 15:53 |
| jimbaker | sulo, there's also the governance concern that we discussed last week re keeping variable versions around | 15:53 |
| sulo | ah yes | 15:53 |
| sulo | thats a separate bp i need to create | 15:53 |
| jimbaker | sulo, i think we can do that in the context of the blame system | 15:53 |
| sulo | yeah .. the versioning could be | 15:54 |
| jimbaker | btw, in my branch, i move blame such that it's a method on anything that mixes in variables | 15:54 |
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| jimbaker | so could readily add a parameter to the method to get old versions, etc | 15:55 |
| sulo | sounds good to me | 15:55 |
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| jimbaker | sulo, re notification - assuming everything goes through the python api, vs directly against the db, this should be straightforward. maybe a mixin or just an addition to the craton base? | 15:56 |
| jimbaker | much like create, modified timestamp support | 15:57 |
| jimbaker | anyway we should certainly see if there's something preexisting in oslo that could support.\ | 15:57 |
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| jimbaker | ok, time to wrap up the meeting | 15:58 |
| jimbaker | any other questions? | 15:58 |
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| jimbaker | concerns? | 15:58 |
| syed__ | i am good | 15:58 |
| syed__ | thanks jimbaker | 15:58 |
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| jimbaker | cool, let's just move over to #craton | 15:58 |
| jimbaker | thanks everyone! | 15:58 |
| jimbaker | #endmeeting | 15:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 14 15:58:54 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/craton/2016/craton.2016-11-14-15.02.html | 15:58 |
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| Sukhdev | Folks, time for Ironic-neutron meeting | 16:00 |
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| Sukhdev | who is here ? | 16:01 |
| sambetts | o/ | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | lets get started | 16:02 |
| jroll | \o | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | #startmeeting ironic_neutron | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 14 16:02:32 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic_neutron' | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron#Meeting_November_14.2C_2016 | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | anybody wants anything added to the agenda? | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements | 16:03 |
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| Sukhdev | any announcements? | 16:04 |
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| sambetts | Attach/Detach VIF spec landed | 16:04 |
| sambetts | so those patches need updating and reviewing | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | cool | 16:05 |
| sambetts | vasyl is helping me update the client side patch because the API design changed at the last minute | 16:05 |
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| sambetts | I'm nearly done updating the Ironic side | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : thanks | 16:06 |
| Sukhdev | I spent some time last weekend organizing the wiki to reflect all the correct patches | 16:07 |
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| jroll | \o/ | 16:07 |
| Sukhdev | I should not call these patches POC code anymore :-) | 16:08 |
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| Sukhdev | make sure all the patches are listed there - it is easier to keep track of them | 16:08 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Security Groups | 16:09 |
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| jroll | this one is close | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev | I noticed last week there were lot of reviews of the SG patches | 16:09 |
| jroll | just missing some test cases | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev | jroll : I am confused about the test cases that are needed | 16:10 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: what's confusing? | 16:10 |
| Sukhdev | jroll : about the neutron client setup for SG | 16:10 |
| Sukhdev | for the verification | 16:11 |
| jroll | not sure what you mean | 16:11 |
| jroll | my comments say what is missing | 16:11 |
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| Sukhdev | jroll : not about what is missing - how to go about part - let me ping you offline | 16:12 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: sure, sounds good | 16:12 |
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| Sukhdev | other than that this is pretty much good to go | 16:13 |
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| Sukhdev | I will try to add tests for verification part and upload it | 16:13 |
| Sukhdev | any body else has any question about it other than test? | 16:14 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Port Groups | 16:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Port Groups (Meeting topic: ironic_neutron)" | 16:14 | |
| Sukhdev | Port Groups is also looking good | 16:14 |
| Sukhdev | Ironic patches are merged - | 16:15 |
| jroll | there's still a few ironic patches https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1618754 | 16:15 |
| jroll | but yeah, we're getting there | 16:16 |
| jroll | only one is code, the rest are docs/tests | 16:16 |
| Sukhdev | right | 16:16 |
| Sukhdev | nova side | 16:17 |
| Sukhdev | nova side is sitting with -ve votes | 16:18 |
| jroll | nova spec is looking good, hoping it'll get some eyes this week https://review.openstack.org/#/c/387534/ | 16:18 |
| jroll | nova spec freeze is thursday | 16:18 |
| Sukhdev | we have few days - hopefully, this go | 16:19 |
| jroll | ya :) | 16:19 |
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| Sukhdev | anything else on PG? | 16:21 |
| Sukhdev | #topoic: Vlan Aware Servers | 16:21 |
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| sambetts | I don't think that worked :-p | 16:22 |
| jroll | honestly I don't expect to see this make progress until late ocata or pike | 16:22 |
| jroll | gotta finish attach/detach and portgroups first | 16:22 |
| jroll | sambetts: agree? | 16:23 |
| sambetts | Yeah, they are certainly higher priority and we aren't going to get the nova spec for the configdrive in before freeze | 16:23 |
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| sambetts | other than that part everything else should be Ironic side | 16:25 |
| jroll | yep | 16:25 |
| Sukhdev | that naturally leads to the next topic - | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Attach/detach API | 16:26 |
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| Sukhdev | as sambetts pointed out - the spec is now approved | 16:26 |
| jroll | as well as the nova blueprint | 16:27 |
| jroll | so time to get moving on code :D | 16:27 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : I listed three patches on the wiki (nova, ironic, client) | 16:27 |
| jroll | we also decided nova portgroups depends on this, it will make it much simpler to implement | 16:27 |
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| sambetts | Yeah and that was a question I had, do you want my attach/detach spec API patch to Ironic to include the portgroups mapping logic and the port mapping logic or just the port part with portgroups in a follow up | 16:28 |
| sambetts | s/spec// | 16:28 |
| jroll | sambetts: not sure, I suspect the latter, just for smaller patches | 16:29 |
| sambetts | yeah thats what I was thinking | 16:29 |
| Sukhdev | we need it for both though | 16:31 |
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| jroll | nobody disagrees :) | 16:31 |
| sambetts | Cool, the status of the patches are: Ironic one is nearly finished being updated | 16:32 |
| sambetts | Ironic Client one Vasyl was going to update for me | 16:32 |
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| jroll | nice | 16:32 |
| sambetts | and Nova one will need updating once client functions are laided out | 16:33 |
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| Sukhdev | sounds reasonable - anything else on this? | 16:35 |
| sambetts | Nothing else from me | 16:35 |
| sambetts | just pushing on with it | 16:35 |
| jroll | ditto | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev | with my change in job, I am trying to set up the BM environment so that I can test all of this | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev | I lost my setup when I left Arista :-) | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Open Discussion | 16:36 |
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| * sambetts is also working to build a new test environment after mine was aquired by another team :( | 16:37 | |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : ha ha - it can be painful | 16:37 |
| sambetts | yeah | 16:38 |
| Sukhdev | anybody wants to discuss anything else networking related? | 16:38 |
| sambetts | btw what are the plans/goals for 3rd party CI of the network drivers + ml2 supprt? | 16:38 |
| sambetts | have we laid out any rules for that? | 16:39 |
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| sambetts | s/rules/goals | 16:39 |
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| jroll | we haven't | 16:39 |
| jroll | it really shouldn't differ based on driver, right? | 16:39 |
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| sambetts | no, jsut different local_link_connection info to be passed for different vendors | 16:40 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : that is part of the CI test setup | 16:41 |
| sambetts | the unit tests? | 16:41 |
| jroll | sambetts: hrm, those vendors don't have code in ironic, so seems like it'd be weird to ask them for CI | 16:41 |
| Sukhdev | I can give you example of how we did at Arista | 16:42 |
| sambetts | jroll: yeah :/ its more of a cross project ml2 driver repo X ironic CI I guess, like how nova CI's ironic | 16:42 |
| sambetts | so networking-cisco should proably CI Ironic or the other way around | 16:43 |
| jroll | ya | 16:43 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : you do not need ironic specific CI - unless you want to test the internals of ironic through CI | 16:43 |
| jroll | the first, I think | 16:43 |
| sambetts | yeah that seems to make the most sense, to make sure nothing that merges into net-cisco breaks the intergration with ironic | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev | yup - so, there are two parts to it sambetts | 16:45 |
| Sukhdev | 1) the merges into networking-cisco - those are your local unit tests | 16:45 |
| Sukhdev | 2) the CI to catch the issues with upstream - i.e at the API integration level | 16:45 |
| Sukhdev | that is the way I had setup for Arista - it works very effectively | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev | unless, you want an overkill :-):-) | 16:46 |
| sambetts | yeah, I'll have to play around and see what extra equipment I can squeeze into my CI environment :) | 16:47 |
| sambetts | thats all I had today | 16:50 |
| Sukhdev | anything else - anybody? | 16:50 |
| jroll | nope :) | 16:50 |
| Sukhdev | cool - we are done | 16:50 |
| Sukhdev | thanks | 16:50 |
| jroll | thanks Sukhdev | 16:50 |
| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 16:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:51 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 14 16:50:59 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:51 |
| sambetts | o/ | 16:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-11-14-16.02.html | 16:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-11-14-16.02.txt | 16:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-11-14-16.02.log.html | 16:51 |
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| thedac | o/ | 17:00 |
| gnuoy | \o | 17:00 |
| thedac | I'll wait for a few more people before starting the meeting. | 17:00 |
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| icey | heh | 17:00 |
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| thedac | Well we should probably get started anyway | 17:01 |
| thedac | #startmeeting charms | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 14 17:01:48 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is thedac. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'charms' | 17:01 |
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| thedac | Welcome everyone | 17:02 |
| thedac | #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review ACTION points from previous meeting (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:02 | |
| icey | o/ | 17:02 |
| thedac | Looking at the meeting notes ... | 17:02 |
| thedac | ACTION: beisner regular upgrade tests | 17:02 |
| jamespage | o/ | 17:02 |
| thedac | beisner: around? ^^ | 17:02 |
| gnuoy | I think that ones supposed to be closed | 17:02 |
| thedac | ok next | 17:02 |
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| thedac | ACTION: jamespage to identity alternate week slot and get scheduled (carried forward) | 17:03 |
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| * jamespage hangs head in shame | 17:03 | |
| jamespage | please carry that forward | 17:03 |
| thedac | heh | 17:03 |
| thedac | will do | 17:03 |
| jamespage | I'm not doing a great job at that I am | 17:03 |
| thedac | ACTION: all to read through the charm specs: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/charm-specs/ | 17:03 |
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| thedac | Now I am holding my head in shame. I'll do that today | 17:03 |
| thedac | Should we carry that forward as well? | 17:04 |
| icey | +1 | 17:04 |
| tinwood | +1 | 17:04 |
| coreycb | o/ | 17:04 |
| thedac | ok | 17:04 |
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| thedac | last one | 17:04 |
| thedac | ACTION: jamespage allocate days in month for bug squashing. | 17:04 |
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| jamespage | carry pls | 17:04 |
| thedac | will do | 17:05 |
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| thedac | #topic State of Development for next Charm Release | 17:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "State of Development for next Charm Release (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:05 | |
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| thedac | jamespage and gnuoy any comments from the last couple of weeks? | 17:05 |
| gnuoy | Input on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397241/ would be much appreciated | 17:05 |
| beisner | o/ apologies, was tied up. hi all. | 17:05 |
| thedac | hey beisner | 17:05 |
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| jamespage | ok so focus should be on specs right now | 17:06 |
| jamespage | we have a few already approved | 17:06 |
| jamespage | I have gnuoy's lb spec on my list to review tomorrow | 17:06 |
| jamespage | specs only required for new features | 17:06 |
| thedac | ok, I'll take a read through the LB spec as well to see how it has evolved since my last conversation with gnuoy on the topic | 17:07 |
| thedac | Any other comments on the state of development? | 17:07 |
| beisner | re: regular upgrade tests; we do run the single-hop upgrades now (L:M or M:N). but, we've got that on the list for doing multi-step L:K:M type upgrades. no cycles to move forward on that so far. | 17:07 |
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| gnuoy | thedac, tinwood has a charm inbound I believe | 17:08 |
| gnuoy | M-something | 17:08 |
| beisner | ha! | 17:08 |
| gnuoy | Manilla! | 17:08 |
| tinwood | manila, manila-generic | 17:08 |
| tinwood | :) | 17:08 |
| thedac | \o/ | 17:08 |
| gnuoy | Murano, Manilla, Mistral it blurs | 17:08 |
| tinwood | indeed. | 17:08 |
| thedac | beisner: got it. Should that remain on this list of actions? Or due to its long running nature be tracked somwhere else? | 17:08 |
| thedac | All the Ms | 17:08 |
| cargonza | o/ | 17:08 |
| thedac | Ok, moving forward | 17:09 |
| thedac | #topic High Priority Bugs | 17:09 |
| beisner | thedac, not sure. it will likely not be resolved before the next meeting. | 17:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "High Priority Bugs (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:09 | |
| thedac | OpenStack bugs at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-charms | 17:09 |
| thedac | Anything to highlight? | 17:09 |
| gnuoy | How are the rabbits? | 17:09 |
| thedac | I think we quashed the DNS short hostname bug. | 17:09 |
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| gnuoy | kk | 17:10 |
| thedac | That is out in the wild and I have not heard complaints yet | 17:10 |
| beisner | 🐇🐇🐇 | 17:10 |
| thedac | feedback welcome of course | 17:10 |
| thedac | others? | 17:10 |
| thedac | Moving on ... | 17:10 |
| thedac | #topic Openstack Events | 17:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Openstack Events (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:11 | |
| thedac | What is coming up? | 17:11 |
| thedac | beisner: you mentioned some deadlines recently can you post those here? | 17:11 |
| beisner | ah, yes. juju charmer summit proposals + config mgmt camp proposals. one sec, links inbound. | 17:12 |
| thedac | thank you | 17:12 |
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| beisner | fosdem: deadline is today Nov 14 - https://fosdem.org/2017/news/2016-07-20-call-for-participation/ | 17:13 |
| jamespage | urgh | 17:13 |
| jamespage | I though it wsa end of the week | 17:13 |
| beisner | cfg mgmt camp: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeAMyDhrz4Z-xcSvCIroDoA1EKy-FhWIRwg8CEwjB1Lt9GM_g/viewform?c=0&w=1 (not sure of deadline but i believe it is this wk) | 17:14 |
| beisner | juju charmer summit: http://summit.juju.solutions/ | 17:14 |
| thedac | thanks, beisner | 17:14 |
| jamespage | yah 18th | 17:14 |
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| thedac | Also Project Teams Gathering is in February in Atlanta, correct? | 17:14 |
| thedac | #link https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ | 17:15 |
| thedac | any others? | 17:15 |
| beisner | #link http://summit.juju.solutions/ | 17:15 |
| beisner | #link https://fosdem.org/2017/news/2016-07-20-call-for-participation/ | 17:15 |
| beisner | forgat about that fancy meet bot stuff | 17:15 |
| thedac | :) | 17:15 |
| thedac | moving forward ... | 17:15 |
| thedac | #topic Open Discussion | 17:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:15 | |
| thedac | Release the orangutans! | 17:16 |
| gnuoy | do we need to charm up any more ceilometer fragments | 17:16 |
| gnuoy | ? | 17:16 |
| gnuoy | I'm just going to pick random words | 17:16 |
| gnuoy | gnochi ? | 17:16 |
| thedac | gnuoy: is gnochi in Ocata? I suspect we will need to | 17:17 |
| gnuoy | not sure tbh | 17:18 |
| gnuoy | thedac, action me with taking a look | 17:18 |
| beisner | was panko a new thing spinning out of/around ceilo? | 17:19 |
| thedac | #action gnuoy determine which openstack release gnochi will be in | 17:19 |
| coreycb | yeah i think we need to get an understanding of which pieces of ceilometer we need, also affects getting packages into main | 17:19 |
| gnuoy | coreycb, agreed | 17:20 |
| gnuoy | as beisner says panko is definitely a thing too | 17:20 |
| thedac | gnuoy: can I update that action item to be ceilometer micro services | 17:20 |
| gnuoy | +1 | 17:20 |
| thedac | ok | 17:20 |
| thedac | Any other open discussion items? | 17:20 |
| jamespage | o/ | 17:20 |
| jamespage | yeah sorry doing two things at once does not work | 17:21 |
| jamespage | re the PTG | 17:21 |
| thedac | yes | 17:21 |
| jamespage | we can have a room for the event, but I only think that's worth doing if we get some wider attendees | 17:21 |
| jamespage | so I was going to ping the devs who expressed interest in barcelona in becoming official projects as part of charms | 17:22 |
| thedac | OK | 17:22 |
| thedac | One more call for open discussion | 17:22 |
| thedac | Alright thanks everyone | 17:23 |
| thedac | #endmeeting | 17:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:23 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 14 17:23:04 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2016/charms.2016-11-14-17.01.html | 17:23 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2016/charms.2016-11-14-17.01.txt | 17:23 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2016/charms.2016-11-14-17.01.log.html | 17:23 |
| tinwood | thedac: thanks! | 17:23 |
| gnuoy | thanks thedac | 17:23 |
| icey | thanks thedac | 17:23 |
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| thedac | icey: fyi, you are up next for chair | 17:25 |
| icey | I saw thedac :-/ | 17:26 |
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