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| oanson | #startmeeting Dragonflow | 09:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 31 09:00:18 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oanson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'dragonflow' | 09:00 |
| xiaohhui | hello | 09:00 |
| oanson | Hi. Welcome. Who is here for the dragonflow meeting? | 09:00 |
| lihi | o/ | 09:01 |
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| oanson | All right, let's start. The stragglers will join later | 09:01 |
| oanson | #topic Ocata Roadmap | 09:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ocata Roadmap (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:02 | |
| oanson | So there was a summit in Barcelona. We are looking at several directions | 09:02 |
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| oanson | The Ocata work will be summarised here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/dragonflow-ocata | 09:02 |
| dimak | Hey | 09:02 |
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| oanson | #link Ocata Roadmap etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/dragonflow-ocata | 09:02 |
| oanson | The hot topics are deployment, SFC, ipv6, NAT, and LB | 09:03 |
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| oanson | Someone contacted me for load balancing. I will talk to him, since he was supposed to upload a spec. | 09:03 |
| oanson | Additionally, from my personal experience, we should supply networking troubleshooting tools | 09:04 |
| oanson | To assist both developers trying to understand why their packets are missing | 09:04 |
| oanson | And users/operators/deployers to understand why their customers' packets are missing | 09:05 |
| yuli_s | hello | 09:05 |
| oanson | yuli_s, hi | 09:05 |
| oanson | any takers? | 09:05 |
| nick-ma_ | hi | 09:05 |
| oanson | nick-ma_, hi | 09:05 |
| hujie | Hi | 09:05 |
| oanson | All right, I guess we'll get back to that | 09:06 |
| oanson | The next hot topic is SFC. dimak will start looking into it | 09:06 |
| dimak | ok | 09:06 |
| oanson | Note that this is a huge undertaking, so this won't happen by next week :) | 09:06 |
| dimak | :) | 09:07 |
| oanson | dimak, I suggest you start by reviewing networking-sfc, the IETF standards draft, and there's a review | 09:07 |
| oanson | (1 sec, I'll find it) | 09:07 |
| dimak | rfc7665? | 09:07 |
| oanson | #link networking-sfc SFC graph API https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388802/ | 09:07 |
| nick-ma_ | networking-sfc needs load balancing for a kind of port group. I discussed with the team in Austin. | 09:07 |
| oanson | dimak, yes | 09:08 |
| oanson | All SFC docs are summarised here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/sfc/documents/ | 09:08 |
| oanson | #link SFC docs https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/sfc/documents/ | 09:08 |
| oanson | nick-ma_, yes. That is a very important feature for them | 09:08 |
| oanson | dimak, please take that into account in the spec. | 09:09 |
| oanson | Please don't forget the security considerations as well. | 09:09 |
| dimak | i'll go over it | 09:09 |
| oanson | Next up is deployment | 09:09 |
| oanson | The nice people from Strato agreed to write an openstack-puppet module. | 09:10 |
| yuli_s | great news | 09:10 |
| hujie | for dragonflow? | 09:10 |
| oanson | I started working with the guys in openstack-ansible on a dragonflow module. The progress can be seen here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391524/ | 09:10 |
| oanson | hujie, yes | 09:10 |
| hujie | good | 09:11 |
| oanson | I want to skip ahead to the IPv6, and come back to the other things later | 09:11 |
| oanson | In IPv6, lihi started looking into it | 09:11 |
| oanson | Many of our applications don't support IPv6. I saw in the review that it was suggested to say the Dragonflow doesn't support IPv6 at all. | 09:12 |
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| oanson | I would like to avoid that. It will give off the wrong impression. | 09:12 |
| oanson | I would prefer each application which doesn't support IPv6 to shamefully admit it, and have it fixed | 09:12 |
| yuli_s | ;) | 09:12 |
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| nick-ma_ | +1 | 09:13 |
| oanson | I also think it would be best if lihi marks each such application as she finds them during her tests, and then fix them later, one by one. | 09:13 |
| oanson | lihi, would that be all right? | 09:13 |
| lihi | Yeah | 09:13 |
| oanson | Great. | 09:14 |
| lihi | I already started to do so | 09:14 |
| oanson | Great. | 09:14 |
| oanson | Tap-as-a-service | 09:14 |
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| yuli_s | this is cool service ;) | 09:14 |
| oanson | This is a new feature that was displayed in the summit. It doesn't seem complex, but needs a carrier. | 09:14 |
| oanson | I mention it since it came up in the fishbowl. I think it could be a DF application, which shouldn't change the rest of the framework. But I didn't give it a lot of thought. | 09:15 |
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| yuli_s | i can probably take it | 09:15 |
| nick-ma_ | is it of high priority? | 09:15 |
| oanson | yuli_s, if you have time | 09:15 |
| yuli_s | thanks | 09:16 |
| oanson | nick-ma_, I don't think so. | 09:16 |
| oanson | Mostly, I think it is small enough to slip in between the big things, and will be good PR | 09:16 |
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| oanson | and would help towards writing troubleshooting tools | 09:16 |
| nick-ma_ | that makes sense. | 09:16 |
| oanson | I think the same goes for VLAN aware VMs, but I haven't read the spec on that. | 09:17 |
| oanson | Documentation: | 09:17 |
| oanson | I would like to enforce function documentation on our code. Any function longer than ~3 lines should have a docstring. It can be a short, single line explaining the gist of the function. | 09:17 |
| ntr0py | \o/ | 09:18 |
| oanson | Just so that new contributors and reviewers can understand what a called function does without having to read through tens of lines of code. | 09:18 |
| nick-ma_ | +1 | 09:18 |
| oanson | I will start enforcing this for patches submitted since 1st Nov. (Tomorrow) | 09:19 |
| dimak | +1 | 09:19 |
| lihi | +1 as well :) | 09:19 |
| nick-ma_ | along with unit test. | 09:19 |
| oanson | nick-ma_, yes. | 09:19 |
| oanson | Our unit test framework is advanced enough (thanks to xiaohhui and others) that we can enforce that too | 09:19 |
| xiaohhui | :) | 09:20 |
| oanson | For the docs, it may be useful to write a pep8 hack. For unit tests, there's a coverage library which may help enforcing that new methods are tested. | 09:20 |
| oanson | But this requires research, and can be done manually for now | 09:20 |
| oanson | There was also a request for a migration tool. I started working on it with a guy from Orange in the contributors meeting. I will followup on it. It is both very interesting and very important work. | 09:22 |
| oanson | I hope this work will also pave the way for an external, non-Neutron/openstack API which will facilitate testing and external port deployments | 09:22 |
| nick-ma_ | migration from ml2 ovs dvr? | 09:22 |
| oanson | nick-ma_, yes | 09:22 |
| oanson | Since everything is in the Neutron database, and all we need is the NB database populated, I think it should be fairly simple. | 09:23 |
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| oanson | I would be happy if anyone who takes a Roadmap item will update the etherpad. This way we can keep track of who does what. | 09:23 |
| oanson | I think there is one last roadmap item: Backend drivers. | 09:24 |
| oanson | e.g. supporting P4 and eBPF in addition to OVS/OpenFlow | 09:24 |
| oanson | This sounds very interesting, but I suspect we are out of hands at the moment. | 09:24 |
| nick-ma_ | there is also an integration in OVS upstream to support eBPF. | 09:25 |
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| oanson | nick-ma_, yes. I think that's one of the reasons eBPF is so interesting. | 09:25 |
| nick-ma_ | Do you want to follow the ovs or do it ourselves, implementing eBPF control plane? | 09:25 |
| oanson | I was thinking ourselves, so that we won't be tied to OVS | 09:25 |
| nick-ma_ | that's cool. | 09:26 |
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| nick-ma_ | eBPF is in production, but P4, I don't know. | 09:26 |
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| oanson | I think P4 only has compilation to OpenFlow, or implemented in hardware by some smartnics. | 09:27 |
| oanson | On one hand it's very flexible. On the other, if no one implements it, it won't help us much :) | 09:27 |
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| nick-ma_ | yes. | 09:27 |
| oanson | Any other roadmap items you want to discuss? | 09:27 |
| nick-ma_ | dragonflow's northbound api interface? | 09:28 |
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| oanson | Yes. | 09:28 |
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| oanson | The plan is to support our own independent API. This allows dragonflow to be used without Neutron/Openstack, such as in kubernetes, as external ports, testing, etc. | 09:29 |
| nick-ma_ | yes. | 09:29 |
| hujie | does dragonflow need to do something for dpdk? | 09:29 |
| nick-ma_ | i did it before, a simple integration. you can have a try in your hardware environment. | 09:29 |
| nick-ma_ | ovs-dpdk | 09:30 |
| hujie | ok I see | 09:30 |
| oanson | re standalone api, I think orange will help as part of the migration tool work. | 09:30 |
| oanson | I'll discuss it with the person I met | 09:30 |
| oanson | #topic Performance | 09:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Performance (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:32 | |
| nick-ma_ | do you wanna land it in the next release? our own api means our own virtual topology definition. | 09:32 |
| oanson | nick-ma_, in theory yes, but I don't think we have the hands for it | 09:32 |
| nick-ma_ | ok. | 09:32 |
| oanson | In performance, there were several discussion of data-plane tests, and Rally came up as the de facto standard for control plane testing | 09:33 |
| oanson | yuli_s, could you look at the Rally gate test, and understand why it is unstable? | 09:33 |
| yuli_s | i will take a look | 09:33 |
| oanson | There are also several options for data-plane testing: Shaker, PerfKit, Browbeat (which is a wrapper). We need to select a direction, and implement a gate test here too. Preferably, cross-node. | 09:34 |
| oanson | yuli_s, could you review the options here to? | 09:34 |
| yuli_s | yes, sure | 09:34 |
| oanson | Obviously, not everything for next week. But I would like to have the two gate tests up and stable by the end of the cycle | 09:34 |
| oanson | yuli_s, and this should go hand-in-hand with the work you are doing now. | 09:35 |
| yuli_s | ok | 09:36 |
| oanson | Thank you. | 09:36 |
| yuli_s | ;) | 09:36 |
| oanson | Anything else for performance? | 09:36 |
| yuli_s | nop, I came in yesterday from a long vocation, so no new findings till now | 09:36 |
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| oanson | #topic Bugs | 09:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:37 | |
| oanson | I see there are a bunch of High bugs, but it looks like they are all in progress. | 09:37 |
| oanson | I would like to stress bug-fixing this cycle, but I am not sure how we'll do it in addition to the new features we want. | 09:38 |
| oanson | We'll review our progress next week and decide. Maybe will take 2 months for features, and 2 months for bug fixing. | 09:38 |
| oanson | I don;t know yet, and would really appreciate suggestions :) | 09:38 |
| nick-ma_ | There are also lots of ongoing patches in the gerrit. :-) | 09:38 |
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| oanson | Yes. :) | 09:39 |
| oanson | Between the summit, and the holiday that was forced upon us the week before, I didn't do my bit in reviewing. | 09:39 |
| oanson | I will catch up this week. | 09:39 |
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| oanson | Anything else for bugs? | 09:40 |
| nick-ma_ | that's ok. | 09:40 |
| xiaohhui | Can we assign a bug triager as neutron does? | 09:40 |
| oanson | xiaohhui, sure. | 09:40 |
| xiaohhui | We can swift the role every(two) week | 09:40 |
| xiaohhui | switch | 09:40 |
| oanson | xiaohhui, that's a good idea. | 09:40 |
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| lihi | There's an issue with the port status notifier driver | 09:41 |
| oanson | I can take the next two weeks, and we'll find a volunteer afterwards. | 09:41 |
| oanson | Is jingting here? | 09:41 |
| xiaohhui | Great, let's see how it is going | 09:41 |
| lihi | The driver is missing, and devstack fails | 09:42 |
| hujie | jingting is coming | 09:42 |
| hujie | wait a min | 09:42 |
| xiaohhui | Maybe you need to update your dragonflow by running "python setup.py install" | 09:42 |
| xiaohhui | I remember I see similar problem | 09:42 |
| oanson | I think I ran into this using a etcd/zmq setup, but didn't have time to review it. Maybe it should be disabled unless redis is used? | 09:43 |
| nick-ma_ | i didn't see any redis-related code in port status notifier. | 09:44 |
| oanson | I thought only the redis driver was written, but I may remember wrong. | 09:44 |
| oanson | lihi, if xiaohhui's suggestion doesn't help, please open a critical bug with your local.conf. | 09:45 |
| dimak | yes, it needs redis to work for now or disabled explicitly if not using redis | 09:45 |
| dimak | i came across this as well | 09:46 |
| lihi | I will check and update | 09:46 |
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| oanson | lihi, if the issue repeats, we can start by disabling the feature for non-redis configuration. | 09:46 |
| lihi | ok | 09:47 |
| oanson | If I recall correctly, the driver could be modified to be general (and not redis-specific) easily, but since it's critical, I want the fastest, simplest solution first. | 09:47 |
| nick-ma_ | yes, i think so. | 09:48 |
| oanson | jingting, in case you missed what we discussed earlier: In some cases devstack fails on the port notification driver. We're not sure if it's for non-redis setups only, or if Dragonflow simply has to be re-installed after a git pull. | 09:48 |
| oanson | jingting, Would you mind taking over testing it? If it is indeed a non-redis configuration thing, the feature should be disabled for non-redis configurations. | 09:49 |
| oanson | At least until a generic driver is written (which may be extracted from the current redis driver) | 09:50 |
| jingting | yes, the feature should be disable in non-redis configuration | 09:50 |
| oanson | jingting, could you please upload a patch to do that? | 09:50 |
| oanson | Thanks. | 09:51 |
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| oanson | #topic Open Discussion | 09:51 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:51 | |
| oanson | The floor is for the taking. | 09:51 |
| jingting | Yes, I will do it | 09:51 |
| oanson | If there is nothing else... | 09:52 |
| oanson | Thanks everyone for coming. | 09:53 |
| nick-ma_ | thanks all. | 09:53 |
| xiaohhui | bye~ | 09:53 |
| oanson | Let's hope this cycle will be as successful as the previous one! :) | 09:53 |
| oanson | #endmeeting | 09:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 09:53 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 31 09:53:26 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-10-31-09.00.html | 09:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-10-31-09.00.txt | 09:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-10-31-09.00.log.html | 09:53 |
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| apuimedo | #startmeeting kuryr | 14:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 31 14:02:07 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is apuimedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kuryr' | 14:02 |
| apuimedo | Hello everybody and welcome to the first post Ocata Summit Kuryr weekly IRC meeting | 14:02 |
| apuimedo | I expect most of the people to be on holiday or still traveling back | 14:02 |
| ltomasbo | hi! | 14:02 |
| limao | o/ | 14:02 |
| apuimedo | but let's see if we get somebody to join | 14:02 |
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| apuimedo | ivc_: irenab: you there? | 14:03 |
| ivc_ | o/ | 14:04 |
| apuimedo | very well, let's get started | 14:04 |
| apuimedo | first of all, I want to thank you for joining in the work sessions | 14:05 |
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| apuimedo | #topic kuryr-libnetwork | 14:05 |
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| apuimedo | #action need to get the ipvlan/macvlan that was used for the demo commited upstream | 14:06 |
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| apuimedo | limao: you wanted to submit a vlan driver and some network QoS options too, right? | 14:06 |
| limao | Yes | 14:07 |
| limao | QoS option | 14:07 |
| ltomasbo | limiting max rate? | 14:07 |
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| limao | there is three kind of qos | 14:07 |
| apuimedo | the idea would be to define it as one of the libnetwork option key-values | 14:07 |
| limao | currently in neutron | 14:08 |
| apuimedo | and that then it would apply to the ports of that docker neutron-backed network | 14:08 |
| apuimedo | right | 14:08 |
| limao | yes | 14:08 |
| ltomasbo | would that be needed for the trunk port use case? | 14:09 |
| ltomasbo | will not be enough to apply the QoS in the subport? | 14:09 |
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| limao | Currently it can be only done in network level | 14:10 |
| apuimedo | ltomasbo: I'm unsure of how it behaves in neutron in subports | 14:10 |
| ltomasbo | never try it either | 14:10 |
| limao | Yeah, I can try it to see what it happened | 14:10 |
| apuimedo | that would be great | 14:11 |
| ivc_ | apuimedo, unless something changed drastically, subports are very similar to regular ports, so qos should work for them | 14:11 |
| apuimedo | #action limao to check how network QoS applies in neutron to ports and subports | 14:11 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: yes, but it's a bit of a question whether trunk port restrictions apply to subports | 14:12 |
| apuimedo | at least in my mind | 14:12 |
| apuimedo | (I did not read the ref impl) | 14:12 |
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| ivc_ | apuimedo, do we want qos on trunk or subport level? | 14:12 |
| ivc_ | or both? | 14:13 |
| ltomasbo | I guess subport level, right? | 14:13 |
| apuimedo | well, if it would be possible to support it in both it would be great, but our biggest concern is to have it working at the subport level | 14:13 |
| ivc_ | it might be interesting to be able to prioritise one subports over others | 14:14 |
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| ivc_ | that would probably require qos on trunk port | 14:15 |
| limao | Yeah, container level qos | 14:16 |
| ivc_ | aye | 14:16 |
| apuimedo | well, subport QoS means that the host must be able to classify by subport origin | 14:16 |
| apuimedo | and apply different htb/hsfc classes | 14:16 |
| apuimedo | that's how I expect it to work | 14:16 |
| limao | with ipvlan/macvlan, neutron will not support it | 14:17 |
| apuimedo | but again, no idea how it was actually implemented | 14:17 |
| apuimedo | limao: right. We'll have to add that | 14:17 |
| limao | with ovs driver, neutron use qos in ovs | 14:17 |
| apuimedo | #action talk with Neutron folks about other segmentation types | 14:17 |
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| apuimedo | limao: you wanted to add the vlan driver to kuryr-lib, right? | 14:18 |
| limao | apuimedo: vlan driver? | 14:18 |
| limao | I'm not sure which part you are talking about | 14:19 |
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| apuimedo | limao: well, we have ipvlan and macvlan, this was about adding vlan | 14:20 |
| apuimedo | for container-in-vm | 14:20 |
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| apuimedo | but I think you mentioned using it for having vlan with bare-metal also | 14:20 |
| limao | No need add vlan driver in kuryr | 14:21 |
| limao | macvlan and ipvlan can work in baremetal | 14:21 |
| apuimedo | well, you need the container device to come out tagged | 14:21 |
| limao | the vlan is in neutron side | 14:21 |
| apuimedo | for neutron default segmentation | 14:21 |
| ltomasbo | aren't they go to be directly connected to the ethX.vlan? | 14:21 |
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| limao | No do not need container device go out with tagged | 14:22 |
| apuimedo | basically when you join an endpoint to the container | 14:22 |
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| ltomasbo | each container to each vlan? or there may be containers in the same vlan? | 14:22 |
| apuimedo | you need to created a vlan device linked to eth0 of the VM | 14:22 |
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| limao | same baremetal host with same vlan | 14:22 |
| apuimedo | and then, on the host side, neutron agent will handle it for you | 14:22 |
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| limao | apuimedo: if you are talking about macvlan and ipvlan work on baremetal server which created by ironic, it did not need add vlan driver in kuryr | 14:23 |
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| limao | it(Baremetal server) can work with currently vm-nested macvlan and ipvlan | 14:24 |
| apuimedo | ok | 14:25 |
| apuimedo | so not for the baremetal case | 14:25 |
| apuimedo | but we still need vlan for the nested case | 14:25 |
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| apuimedo | so that we can use default neutron subport segmentation | 14:25 |
| apuimedo | ltomasbo: will you look into that? | 14:26 |
| ltomasbo | btw, I asked jlibosva and he says: the qos is applied on port on br-int, which in this case is an spi- port | 14:26 |
| ivc_ | apuimedo, you mean vlan-aware-vms? | 14:26 |
| ltomasbo | I will test it, yes vlan-aware-vm plus kuryr | 14:26 |
| apuimedo | ltomasbo: great | 14:26 |
| ltomasbo | and automatize the binding | 14:26 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: yup | 14:27 |
| limao | oh... you mean vlan-aware-vms , sorry for misunderstand | 14:27 |
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| apuimedo | limao: no, no. When I first asked you, I was asking about both cases ;-) | 14:27 |
| limao | https://review.openstack.org/361993 | 14:28 |
| limao | Has vikas choudhary started some work on this? | 14:29 |
| * apuimedo checking | 14:29 | |
| apuimedo | right. This work needs to be resumed | 14:30 |
| apuimedo | but, IIRC, the vlan will be passed as part of the vif oslo versioned object | 14:30 |
| apuimedo | so not much management will be needed | 14:31 |
| limao | Yeah, then we need to sync with vikasc about the status | 14:31 |
| apuimedo | #action apuimedo to sync with vikasc about vlan manager patch | 14:31 |
| ivc_ | limao, looking at that review, i'm not sure if "For each container, a subport will be created in neutron and a vlan will | 14:31 |
| ivc_ | be allocated" is right (vlan is per-network/subnet, not per port), i'll take a closer look on that patch | 14:31 |
| apuimedo | #topic kuryr-lib | 14:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "kuryr-lib (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:32 | |
| apuimedo | now that the summit is over, I can resume the cni work | 14:32 |
| apuimedo | the other item is the oslo versioned object binding interface | 14:32 |
| limao | ivc_ : thanks , it is a patch by vikasc | 14:32 |
| apuimedo | #action apuimedo to work on a binding interface that supports oslo versioned vif objects | 14:33 |
| apuimedo | well, and the vlan stuff we just talked about | 14:33 |
| apuimedo | anything else about kuryr-lib? | 14:33 |
| apuimedo | #topic kuryr-kubernetes | 14:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "kuryr-kubernetes (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:36 | |
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| apuimedo | #info Today we got a couple devstack fixes merged https://review.openstack.org/390820 https://review.openstack.org/391116 | 14:37 |
| apuimedo | #info we also merged more handler patches https://review.openstack.org/388658 https://review.openstack.org/388506 https://review.openstack.org/386192 | 14:37 |
| apuimedo | #info and a watcher patch https://review.openstack.org/376043 | 14:37 |
| apuimedo | we are missing the kuryr-lib cni part | 14:37 |
| apuimedo | and we'll be able to test the port translation handlers | 14:38 |
| apuimedo | and have CI for that | 14:38 |
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| apuimedo | anything else about kuryr-kubernetes? | 14:40 |
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| ivc_ | only that we decided to use plugins | 14:41 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: can you expand on that | 14:42 |
| apuimedo | so I can put it on an #info ? | 14:42 |
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| ivc_ | well we discussed during summit work sessions that we want to make it configurable what handlers are enabled | 14:43 |
| apuimedo | ah, right | 14:43 |
| ivc_ | its already in the architecture, just need to implement the framework | 14:43 |
| apuimedo | #action apuimedo to send the summit meeting notes | 14:43 |
| apuimedo | thanks ivc_ for the reminder | 14:45 |
| ivc_ | i've posted some notes on etherpads during sessions | 14:45 |
| apuimedo | it will help me with sending the notes :-0 | 14:45 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 14:45 |
| ivc_ | maybe you could salvage something from there :) | 14:45 |
| apuimedo | I'll definitely do | 14:45 |
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| apuimedo | otherwise I'll forget even more | 14:45 |
| apuimedo | #topic open discussion | 14:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:46 | |
| apuimedo | does anybody have another topic to talk about? | 14:46 |
| ivc_ | did we get some attention from other teams/communities during summit? | 14:46 |
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| apuimedo | we did have a joint session with Magnum | 14:47 |
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| apuimedo | and they helped us understand better their requirements | 14:47 |
| ivc_ | like that someone mentioned opendaylight guys have some interest in kuryr | 14:47 |
| apuimedo | yes, I think we'll get some odl people to work on kuryr | 14:48 |
| apuimedo | also nfv people | 14:48 |
| apuimedo | and kolla-kubernetes | 14:48 |
| apuimedo | portdirect showed us a prototype he has https://github.com/portdirect/harbor for deploying openstack on top of kubernetes with kuryr-kubernetes (he uses a modified midokura PoC) | 14:49 |
| apuimedo | I think he uses it with OVN instead of the ref impl | 14:50 |
| ivc_ | we also working on having ost on top of k8s in mirantis :) | 14:50 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: You should definitely check out his PoC | 14:50 |
| apuimedo | maybe he can make us an online demo on bluejeans | 14:50 |
| apuimedo | the idea is that harbor will need less code if we can get its pieces into kuryr and kolla kubernetes | 14:51 |
| ivc_ | https://www.openstack.org/videos/video/mirantis-evolve-or-die-enterprise-ready-openstack-upgrades-with-kubernetes | 14:51 |
| ivc_ | i think thats the session | 14:51 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: is that the work of the tcpcloud people? | 14:51 |
| ivc_ | aye | 14:51 |
| apuimedo | cool | 14:51 |
| apuimedo | I wonder if mirantis has considered joining in kolla-kubernetes | 14:52 |
| ivc_ | can't say for sure | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | ;-) | 14:54 |
| apuimedo | alright. Anything else before we close the meeting? | 14:54 |
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| apuimedo | very well then | 14:56 |
| apuimedo | thanks you all for joining | 14:56 |
| apuimedo | #endmeeting | 14:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 31 14:56:30 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-10-31-14.02.html | 14:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-10-31-14.02.txt | 14:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-10-31-14.02.log.html | 14:56 |
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| sigmavirus | #startmeeting craton | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 31 15:00:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sigmavirus. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: craton)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'craton' | 15:00 |
| sigmavirus | #chair jimbaker | 15:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: jimbaker sigmavirus | 15:00 |
| sigmavirus | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/craton-meetings | 15:00 |
| sigmavirus | #topic roll call | 15:00 |
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| chrisspencer | o/ | 15:01 |
| syed_ | o/ | 15:01 |
| sigmavirus | It seems like jimbaker and sulo are still readjusting from their travels to Spain | 15:01 |
| sigmavirus | There's nothing on the Agenda for today | 15:01 |
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| lcastell | o/ | 15:01 |
| sigmavirus | #topic updates | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "updates (Meeting topic: craton)" | 15:02 | |
| sigmavirus | Let's just roll through some updates from folks. Shall we start with syed_ ? | 15:02 |
| syed_ | Sounds cool | 15:02 |
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| sigmavirus | syed_: how's the keystone testing going? | 15:03 |
| syed_ | Was working with Keystone auth and got that resolved, probably will be doing some more tests and then start with horizon folks | 15:03 |
| syed_ | its going well till now, works fine, thanks | 15:03 |
| syed_ | digging into the functional testing aspect of craton, so probably will be updating on that later this week | 15:03 |
| syed_ | and waiting to get updates on how the summit went :) | 15:04 |
| sigmavirus | chrisspencer: how about you? | 15:05 |
| chrisspencer | got my last couple outstanding reviews commited and was able to provide a couple +1s for others | 15:05 |
| sigmavirus | jovon: any updates? | 15:06 |
| jovon | working on cleaning the doc fixes and implementing devices | 15:08 |
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| sigmavirus | anyone else have updates? | 15:10 |
| syed_ | I am good | 15:10 |
| sigmavirus | lcastell: any updates on your end? | 15:11 |
| * sigmavirus knew he missed someone ;) | 15:11 | |
| lcastell | I'll try to start testing the client integration with the horizon plugin this week | 15:11 |
| lcastell | I've been caught in other projects and ss far I haven't had the chance to start testing sigmavirus | 15:12 |
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| sigmavirus | Well jimbaker and sulo haven't showed up. My stalling tactic has failed | 15:12 |
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| sigmavirus | #action jimbaker and sulo to send summaries from Barcelona to the mailing list with the [craton] tag so we can all live vicariously through their memories | 15:13 |
| sigmavirus | #topic Q&A/Wrap-up | 15:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Q&A/Wrap-up (Meeting topic: craton)" | 15:13 | |
| sigmavirus | Does anyone have any questions before I close out this meeting? | 15:13 |
| jovon | no. thank you | 15:14 |
| syed_ | Thanks | 15:14 |
| sigmavirus | Thanks y'all | 15:14 |
| sigmavirus | #info Ending the meeting early as there's not much to discuss | 15:14 |
| sigmavirus | #endmeeting | 15:14 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 31 15:14:44 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:14 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/craton/2016/craton.2016-10-31-15.00.html | 15:14 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/craton/2016/craton.2016-10-31-15.00.txt | 15:14 |
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| gnuoy | \o | 17:01 |
| tinwood | o/ gnuoy | 17:01 |
| gnuoy | tinwood, lets give other peeps a few mins | 17:01 |
| tinwood | ok | 17:01 |
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| gnuoy | ok, I'm going in... | 17:02 |
| gnuoy | #startmeeting charms | 17:02 |
| gnuoy | #startmeeting charms | 17:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 31 17:03:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gnuoy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'charms' | 17:03 |
| gnuoy | I'm guessing beisner and jamespage aren't here ? | 17:03 |
| beisner | o/ | 17:03 |
| gnuoy | \o | 17:03 |
| gnuoy | From last time : ACTION: beisner regular upgrade tests | 17:04 |
| gnuoy | should I carry that forward? | 17:04 |
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| gnuoy | #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting | 17:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review ACTION points from previous meeting (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:04 | |
| beisner | we have charm upgrade mojo specs running daily, and openstack package upgrade mojo specs running at the same frequency | 17:04 |
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| gnuoy | was that action supposed to cover multi release upgrades as well or not? | 17:05 |
| gnuoy | L-M->N | 17:05 |
| beisner | gnuoy, i'm lost in the context of that action though. was that for the multi-upgrade path? ie. i -> j -> k -> l -> m -> n | 17:05 |
| gnuoy | haha | 17:05 |
| gnuoy | not sure, let me check | 17:05 |
| gnuoy | beisner, err I don't see it in the previous meeting summary tb h | 17:06 |
| gnuoy | lets move on | 17:06 |
| beisner | ok, let's call it multi-step upgrade and carry that forward | 17:07 |
| gnuoy | ack | 17:07 |
| gnuoy | #action beisner mutli-step upgrades | 17:07 |
| gnuoy | #topic State of Development for next Charm Release | 17:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "State of Development for next Charm Release (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:07 | |
| gnuoy | tinwood, hows the manilla charm? | 17:07 |
| tinwood | getting very close now. Now handling multiple conversations in the interface, and needing to write tests, but it was basically working until I split it up. | 17:08 |
| gnuoy | tinwood, kk, theres a cephfs charm too right? | 17:08 |
| tinwood | gnuoy, wrt to manila, no, but now very easy to add one. | 17:09 |
| gnuoy | kk | 17:09 |
| tinwood | or as a separate cephfs charm? | 17:09 |
| gnuoy | I think there is a seperate cephfs charm but I may be making that up | 17:09 |
| tinwood | We need to check with the storage charm folks. | 17:10 |
| tinwood | I'll take an action if you'd like? | 17:10 |
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| gnuoy | #action tinwood update at the next meeting wrt manilla and cephfs charms | 17:10 |
| gnuoy | tinwood, thanks | 17:10 |
| tinwood | np | 17:10 |
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| gnuoy | Theres been some requests for openstack dashboard integration which I'll try and take a look soon | 17:11 |
| gnuoy | anything else anyone wants to point at for 17.01 ? | 17:11 |
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| gnuoy | ... | 17:12 |
| gnuoy | #topic High Priority Bugs | 17:12 |
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| gnuoy | So, I think rabbit + DNS has raised its head again | 17:12 |
| gnuoy | I mean: Rabbit - ~DNS | 17:12 |
| gnuoy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+source/rabbitmq-server/+bug/1584902 | 17:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1584902 in rabbitmq-server (Juju Charms Collection) "Setting RabbitMQ NODENAME to non-FQDN breaks on MaaS 2.0" [High,New] - Assigned to James Page (james-page) | 17:13 |
| gnuoy | I think | 17:13 |
| gnuoy | anything else? | 17:13 |
| gnuoy | ok then | 17:14 |
| gnuoy | #topic Openstack Events | 17:14 |
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| gnuoy | Well ODS was just a thing | 17:14 |
| tinwood | How was it | 17:15 |
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| gnuoy | good thanks | 17:15 |
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| gnuoy | the fishbowls and working session on the friday were really good | 17:15 |
| gnuoy | thedac and I are going to work up a spec for the single API haproxy solution | 17:16 |
| tinwood | sounds good. | 17:16 |
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| gnuoy | #action gnuoy Loadbalancer spec | 17:16 |
| beisner | food for thought: i believe rmq can now cluster with nodenames being IP address, if we stop using sname (ie. use long name). i'd like to see us try that. ultimately, until we get consistent dns records from the underlying tooling, i think anything we do will be brittle. | 17:17 |
| gnuoy | I'm going to plough on unless anyone has anything else for events? | 17:17 |
| gnuoy | #topic Open Discussion | 17:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:17 | |
| tinwood | nope, I'm good. | 17:17 |
| gnuoy | Anything to openly discuss? | 17:18 |
| gnuoy | ... | 17:18 |
| tinwood | no, I'm good. | 17:19 |
| gnuoy | Ok, next meeting is two weeks time same time (17:00 UTC) and thedac is chairing! | 17:19 |
| gnuoy | #endmeeting | 17:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:19 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 31 17:19:31 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:19 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2016/charms.2016-10-31-17.03.html | 17:19 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2016/charms.2016-10-31-17.03.txt | 17:19 |
| tinwood | thanks gnuoy :) | 17:19 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2016/charms.2016-10-31-17.03.log.html | 17:19 |
| beisner | o/ thanks gnuoy | 17:19 |
| gnuoy | np | 17:19 |
| tinwood | have a good evening. | 17:19 |
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