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| danpawlik | Hello folks, can you check PS https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314928/ ? | 07:43 |
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| danpawlik | sorry, bad window :) | 07:43 |
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| rosmaita | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 6 14:00:09 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| sigmavirus | o/ | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| hemanthm | o/ | 14:00 |
| * sigmavirus was pre-on-topic | 14:00 | |
| stevelle | o/ | 14:00 |
| mfedosin | o/ | 14:00 |
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| croelandt | o/ | 14:00 |
| tsymanczyk | \o | 14:00 |
| Jokke_ | o/ | 14:01 |
| abashmak | o/ | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | looks like a decent turnout, hello everyone! | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | #topic agenda | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:01 | |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | #topic updates | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "updates (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:02 | |
| rosmaita | #topic import refactor | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "import refactor (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:02 | |
| rosmaita | we had the first recurring sync on tuesday | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | turns out that the meetbot is in the glance channel, so for those who want to follow along: | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/image_import_sync/ | 14:03 |
| dharinic | o/ | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | currently we're looking over the MVP proposal and some patches | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | and we're doing a followup meeting tomorrow at 13:30 utc | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | but will mostly stick with the tuesday syncs | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | key point is, things are moving | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | #topic community images | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "community images (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:05 | |
| rosmaita | reviews, please | 14:06 |
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| tsymanczyk | so for the first patchset, both stevelle and abashmak have provided great feedback. i believe that i've addressed all of it save for one point that i'll do today (making a new error string easier to i18n). | 14:06 |
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| rosmaita | excellent | 14:06 |
| tsymanczyk | the second patchset that utilizes the new values is at the point where i'm going through individual tests to figure out how to best allow them to work with, for example, the fact that private + members doesn't "work like that" anymore. this may not be a quick process but progress is being made. | 14:07 |
| tsymanczyk | that's all i have. | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | we can talk about the is_public=false -> viz=shared at tomorrow's sync | 14:07 |
| tsymanczyk | great | 14:07 |
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| rosmaita | thanks | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | new update topic | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | #topic rolling upgrades | 14:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rolling upgrades (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:08 | |
| rosmaita | hemanthm and abashmak have been working on this pretty steadily | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | and one of them would like to say something now | 14:09 |
| abashmak | The updated RLGUPG DB strategy spec has been waiting for reviews | 14:09 |
| abashmak | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331740/ | 14:09 |
| abashmak | This spec proposes triggers utilization | 14:09 |
| abashmak | To facilitate RLGUPG, we have another spec for moving migrations to Alembic: | 14:09 |
| abashmak | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/374278/ | 14:09 |
| abashmak | Would be good to see some reviews there | 14:09 |
| abashmak | And there is a new PS from hemanthm to make the switch from SQLAlchemy-migrate to Alembic | 14:10 |
| abashmak | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382958/ | 14:10 |
| abashmak | Hemanth and I have been working towards a POC demonstrating RLGUPG. | 14:10 |
| abashmak | Expand and Contract Alembic scripts are ready (holding off on the PS for now) | 14:10 |
| abashmak | MySQL triggers are ready: | 14:10 |
| abashmak | http://paste.openstack.org/show/584520/ | 14:10 |
| abashmak | The Keystone team has looked at and consulted on the triggers. | 14:10 |
| abashmak | Currently waiting for community images use case to mature | 14:11 |
| abashmak | We'd need at least the first PS from Timothy to merge and the 2nd one in a workable state | 14:11 |
| abashmak | So we can cherry pick and install it as 'N' service to test rolling upgrade from ‘N-1’ | 14:11 |
| abashmak | That's all I have | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | thanks, and that brings us to another new update topic | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | #topic Core Awareness | 14:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Core Awareness (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:12 | |
| rosmaita | ok, i want to be explicit about what our priorities are right now | 14:12 |
| hemanthm | I like the sound of it :) | 14:12 |
| sigmavirus | no, explicit is bad :P | 14:12 |
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| * rosmaita ignores sigmavirus | 14:13 | |
| sigmavirus | (That's always a good idea) | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | we need reviews on the rolling upgrade stuff ... there are a lot of comments on the spec, but mostly from non-glance | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | and we need reviews of the switch to alembic to make sure we are all on the same page, community-wise | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | and, we need reviews of the community images work, because that is important, but also because the sooner it merges, the sooner the rolling upgrades stuff can be completed | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | so | 14:14 |
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| rosmaita | anyone not working on image import right now, please spend some time reviewing the patches discussed above | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | any questions? | 14:15 |
| hemanthm | is that for the entire cycle? | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | no, for the next two weeks | 14:16 |
| hemanthm | what does "right now" mean ... every week? | 14:16 |
| hemanthm | ok thanks | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | ok, more explicitness | 14:16 |
| sigmavirus | rosmaita: be more explicityyyy | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | croelandt Jokke_ rosmaita are working on image import right now | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | so croelandt and Jokke_ will be focused on that | 14:17 |
| * Jokke_ goes and picks up some popcorn, this is fun :) | 14:17 | |
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| rosmaita | all other cores, i request that you look at the rolling upgrades and community images patches | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | except for security bugs, those are our #1 priorities | 14:18 |
| * sigmavirus looks | 14:18 | |
| rosmaita | further priorities will be determined at the design summit (or around that time, depending on attendance) | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | but we know we want to do import, community images, and rolling upgrades, so we don't need to wait | 14:18 |
| sigmavirus | I won't be at the summit, but I'd strongly urge those attending to pick very small goals for additional goals that the community talks about | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | good point | 14:19 |
| sigmavirus | These three are large and achievable but only if we don't have another 3 large ones :P | 14:19 |
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| hemanthm | ++ sigmavirus | 14:19 |
| sigmavirus | We can only split our focus so much =/ | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | my plan is to put up a priorities patch to ocata specs during the summit | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | and we can discuss on the patch | 14:20 |
| sigmavirus | SGTM | 14:20 |
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| rosmaita | cool | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | ok, any other questions? | 14:20 |
| dharinic | Yes, that would be great. Smaller, additional goals to work on. | 14:21 |
| Jokke_ | do we have any expected milestones yet for the priorities? | 14:21 |
| Jokke_ | I'd assume we would like to get community images in at least by O-1 | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | actually, it would be good to have community images close to done by summit time | 14:21 |
| Jokke_ | ++ | 14:21 |
| Jokke_ | but there is no milestone before summit :P | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | tsymanczyk has been working hard, and it's pretty close | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | just a personal milestone | 14:22 |
| hemanthm | so, do we want to get community images merged first and then make it rolling upgrade-able? | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | we can have glance-milestones | 14:22 |
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| rosmaita | hemanthm: yes, i think so | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | but that's subject to change if some kind of weird edge case is a blocker | 14:22 |
| Jokke_ | I'd say out of these big ones, we really want to have the community images in asap and not delay it by any other work that might be overlapping | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | Jokke_: i agree | 14:23 |
| hemanthm | +1 | 14:23 |
| Jokke_ | it's very very close to be done and would be shame to put that into limbo | 14:23 |
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| rosmaita | ok, time for more explicitness! | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | reviewers: look at commuinity images first | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | but also keep the rolling upgrade stuff in mind | 14:23 |
| tsymanczyk | getting community images done before the summit really would be best. i'm not sure how much time i'll have to work on it come november. i'm trying to address feedback ASAP after its posted. | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | tsymanczyk: good point | 14:24 |
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| tsymanczyk | unfortunately for the second changeset there's no real way forward beyond me adjusting the old unit tests one by one to be cool with the new behaviour. | 14:24 |
| tsymanczyk | but that's on me and i'll take care of it. | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | i think if we as a community concentrate, we can land this soon | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | any other questions, comments? | 14:25 |
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| dharinic | Not sure if this is appropriate, but I can help with the unit tests or anything for the community images if required. | 14:25 |
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| rosmaita | dharinic: very appropriate! | 14:25 |
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| Jokke_ | dharinic: and highly appreciated. Talk to tsymanczyk ;) | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | dharinic: community images sync is tomorrow at 11 central time | 14:26 |
| dharinic | awesome. Will get in touch with tsymanczyk :) | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | thanks! | 14:26 |
| tsymanczyk | any and all help is deeply appreciated. | 14:26 |
| tsymanczyk | this has been going on long enough. | 14:26 |
| dharinic | great. | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | ok, let's close that discussion on a high note | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | #topic first PTG coming up | 14:27 |
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| rosmaita | the PTG is the "project team gathering" | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | it's intended to replace midcycles | 14:28 |
| abashmak | http://www.openstack.org/ptg | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | it's in Atlanta, Georgia, USA, February 20-24, 2017 | 14:28 |
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| rosmaita | so, as we can see by the sparse attendance, Barcelona hasn't been a travel priority for many of our employers/sponsors | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | so i want to give you a heads up to start talking to your managers about the PTG | 14:29 |
| sigmavirus | (Doesn't help that PTG often means the Project Team Guide too in OS) | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | because it would be nice to have good attendance there so we can meet face to face | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | sigmavirus: duelling acronyms | 14:30 |
| Jokke_ | Acronyms | 14:30 |
| Jokke_ | 3 | 14:30 |
| sigmavirus | rosmaita: also faces are overrated | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | sigmavirus: speak for yourself! | 14:30 |
| stevelle | maybe we should namespace our acronyms | 14:30 |
| sigmavirus | stevelle: The TC organizes both so that won't work | 14:30 |
| sigmavirus | :/ | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | stevelle: and then namespace the namespaces | 14:30 |
| stevelle | rosmaita: gets it | 14:31 |
| sigmavirus | I guess the foundation organizes the gathering | 14:31 |
| sigmavirus | id | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | just want to drop a quote in here from the organizers aobut the structure of the PTG meeting | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | "Horizontal teams (Infrastructure, Documentation, QA...) and cross-project workgroups will meet on Monday-Tuesday (Monday optional). Vertical teams (Nova, Cinder, Swift...) will meet on Wednesday-Friday (Friday optional). Teams that fall in between (Packaging, Kolla, Horizon...) might be placed with horizontal or vertical teams, depending on room availability. Attendees will be encouraged to pick one horizontal effort and one vertical team an | 14:31 |
| Jokke_ | sigmavirus: we could start talking about openstack.events.ptg and openstack.docs.ptg | 14:31 |
| sigmavirus | nah, openstack.tc.ptg | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | yes, please make sure your managers are willing to send you to events.ptg, not docs.ptg | 14:32 |
| Jokke_ | and then the docs folks need to refer their specific part of the gathering as openstack.events.ptg.docs where they talk about openstack.docs.ptg ;) | 14:32 |
| sigmavirus | events.ptg.glance::priorities | 14:33 |
| sigmavirus | anyway | 14:33 |
| sigmavirus | moving along | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | anyway, my point is ... please start talking to your managers | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | the TPG is supposed to be informal | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | but, if your managers say you need to be presenting or something | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | we will "formalize" the glance design sessions so that you can present something | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | i just want to get an early start on figuring out how to make this work so we can get a large turnout | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | that's all about that from me, any questions? | 14:35 |
| abashmak | TPG is better than PTG :) | 14:35 |
| Jokke_ | openstack.events.ptg.glance.formal.<your_presentation_here> :P | 14:35 |
| * Jokke_ stops | 14:35 | |
| * stevelle 's work here is done | 14:35 | |
| rosmaita | definitely a lively meeting today | 14:36 |
| rosmaita | #topic cross project liasons followup | 14:36 |
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| rosmaita | just a reminder, any current c-p liasons, review whether you still want to do it, and next week i'd like to open things up | 14:36 |
| rosmaita | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons | 14:37 |
| * sigmavirus needs to update the release liaison | 14:37 | |
| sigmavirus | is flaper87 still our oslo liaison? | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | possibly, i'm not completely sure | 14:38 |
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| rosmaita | i was going to discuss with him at the summit | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | so most likely, now that i think aobut it, we'll open things up for new c-p liasons after the summit | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | that way i can speak with all the current people and assess interest/time commitments | 14:38 |
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| Jokke_ | rosmaita: how about before summit and we can finalize them in the team meetup we have Fri afternoon? | 14:39 |
| sigmavirus | Jokke_: ++ | 14:39 |
| * sigmavirus added himself for relmgt since I've already started doing that work | 14:39 | |
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| rosmaita | ok, that's a good suggestion | 14:40 |
| sigmavirus | Jokke_: do you want to be stable branch liaison? | 14:40 |
| * sigmavirus was supposed to be it but I keep managing to not find the meeting | 14:40 | |
| rosmaita | i will send out an email to the current people explicitly asking about their commitments | 14:40 |
| rosmaita | and maybe we can work on it at the friday meetup | 14:41 |
| Jokke_ | sigmavirus: likely could. I'll think about it | 14:41 |
| * sigmavirus adds himself as a stand-in fo rnow | 14:41 | |
| rosmaita | speaking of which ... of the people going to barcelona, how many will be available for the friday afternoon meetup? | 14:41 |
| Jokke_ | o/ | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 14:41 |
| tsymanczyk | will be | 14:41 |
| Jokke_ | so 3 of us ... lets find a good pub for it :D | 14:42 |
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| rosmaita | see, that's what i'm worried about | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | not the drinking | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | jsut the light attendance | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | so, next topic: | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | #topic design summit | 14:42 |
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| rosmaita | i haven't finalized things yet | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | am waiting to see the cross project topics announced | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | because i think rolling upgrades will be covered there | 14:43 |
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| rosmaita | plus, hemanthm and abashmak , who are leading the glance effort, won't be there | 14:43 |
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| rosmaita | the rolling upgrades, and the move away from sqlalchemy-migrate to alembic is really importnat for glance | 14:44 |
| Jokke_ | hemanthm won't be in the summit? :o | 14:44 |
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| rosmaita | i think we'll need to have a virtual summit (we can call it something else) for hemanthm and abashmak to present their work | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | i want to make sure the glance community understands/is committed to the direction this effort is taking | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | probably the best time for this would be after the physical summit | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | we'll talk more later | 14:46 |
| Jokke_ | yeah ... /me has bit of holes on the above | 14:46 |
| hemanthm | I have ditches :) | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | agreed, i think we need a question/answer session | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | so we'll need to think about video communication tools | 14:47 |
| hemanthm | Jokke_: no, I'm not super important at Rackspace | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | Jokke_: hemanthm is super important, he just flies under the radar | 14:47 |
| croelandt | Aren't hackers supposed to be good atr written communication? :p | 14:47 |
| Jokke_ | rosmaita: I can still provide bluejeans | 14:48 |
| sigmavirus | Jokke_: I'd rather brownslacks | 14:48 |
| Jokke_ | hemanthm: that's shame :( | 14:48 |
| Jokke_ | hemanthm: I was looking forward to have few (kegs) beers with ye | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | Jokke_: ok, i'd like to set up a test or something | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | of bluejeans, not beers | 14:48 |
| sigmavirus | suuurrreeeee rosmaita | 14:48 |
| hemanthm | Jokke_: same here :) | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | i coulnd't hear mike very well in bluejeans last time | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | but he was in russia, you were in ireland i think, and i was in usa | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | anyway, we'll discuss video tools at another meeting | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | ok, one last topic before open discussion | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | #topic TC election | 14:50 |
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| rosmaita | just a note that the TC election is closing soon | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | you should have received an email with a link to the election site | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | ok, that's it from me | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | #topic open discussion | 14:51 |
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| Jokke_ | so that much to our video conferencing ... I think Vidyo has been fine apart from it tends to be well blocked from corp firewalls (at least that was the case in HPE), BlueJeans seems to work very well on good day, normally it's doable ... the WebEx is just something you can forget having me on :P | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | Jokke_: i agree about the WebEx thing, that wasn't very good | 14:53 |
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| croelandt | All these tools require non-free software on the user's PC, right? :p | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | croelandt: i believe so | 14:54 |
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| rosmaita | some teams use google hangouts | 14:54 |
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| rosmaita | but i believe the community kind of frowns on it becasue not all google stuff is available in china | 14:54 |
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| rosmaita | (though i am not 100% sure about that) | 14:54 |
| Jokke_ | iirc BlueJeans works (or are working towards) being just webrtc or what ever that open standard is | 14:54 |
| stevelle | afaik hangouts licenses the tech from Vidyo | 14:54 |
| croelandt | rosmaita: nice for Free Software hackers :) | 14:55 |
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| Jokke_ | problem with hangouts on any work is the very limited attendee number | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | Jokke_: good point | 14:55 |
| Jokke_ | if you have any chance to have more than 10 people participating, just forget about it | 14:55 |
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| rosmaita | what i'd like to do is to have a test mabye during the open discussion at the next meeting | 14:56 |
| Jokke_ | croelandt: google, open ... | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | next few meetings | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | one tool per meeting | 14:56 |
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| rosmaita | if we could have a person from each continent on the tool, we'd be able to get some feedback | 14:56 |
| Jokke_ | lets just keep our meetings as meetings and have these test runs out of meeting band | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | well, i was thinking the meeting is a time when the entire community should be available | 14:57 |
| Jokke_ | it's always more than couple of minutes of hassle to get folks joining to a different meeting tool | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | otherwise, it may be hard to find a time | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | Jokke_: good point | 14:57 |
| hemanthm | Jokke_: what if that's on meeting agenda :) | 14:57 |
| Jokke_ | and we can expect some having issues no matter what platform we are using if the attendees spans across the globe | 14:58 |
| rosmaita | ok, we may have to think about this some more | 14:58 |
| rosmaita | any other topics on anyone's mind? | 14:58 |
| rosmaita | 1.5 min left | 14:58 |
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| rosmaita | 30 sec | 14:59 |
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| Jokke_ | Thanks all! | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | ok, i guess that's about all for Glance this week ... thanks, everyone! | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| hemanthm | Thanks everyone | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 6 15:00:06 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-10-06-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-10-06-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-10-06-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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| rosmaita | sorry steve, took up 20 sec of searchlight meeting | 15:00 |
| sjmc7 | UNACCEPTABLE! | 15:00 |
| sjmc7 | and good morning! | 15:00 |
| sjmc7 | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 6 15:00:51 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sjmc7. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| RickA-HP | Morning! | 15:00 |
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| TravT | o/ | 15:01 |
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| sjmc7 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda | 15:01 |
| sjmc7 | i hope it is sunnier wherever people are than it is here | 15:02 |
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| RickA-HP | Sunny and perfect waves here! | 15:02 |
| lei-zh | rainy Beijing now : ) | 15:02 |
| sjmc7 | i haven’t seen either of those things for months | 15:02 |
| rosmaita | cloudy here | 15:02 |
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| sjmc7 | ok. that’s all i had to discuss, the weather | 15:03 |
| sjmc7 | we shall get started | 15:03 |
| sjmc7 | #topic Newton release status | 15:03 |
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| sjmc7 | it’s very almost done | 15:03 |
| sjmc7 | think the release team are or have tagged the final builds today | 15:03 |
| sjmc7 | so we are almost officially 1.0! | 15:03 |
| RickA-HP | Doug H sent out an email that Newton has been released. | 15:04 |
| sjmc7 | ah yes, with his commit message “Make it so" | 15:04 |
| sjmc7 | so good job everyone that helped get it done | 15:04 |
| TravT | \o/ | 15:04 |
| sjmc7 | which moves me swiftly onto | 15:04 |
| sjmc7 | #topic Ocata summit | 15:05 |
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| sjmc7 | TravT: we’ve got 1 fishbowl and a couple of working rooms, correct? | 15:05 |
| TravT | yes | 15:05 |
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| sjmc7 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/searchlight-ocata-summit | 15:05 |
| sjmc7 | sadly i will not be there, which is a terrible shame since barcelona is an excellent city | 15:05 |
| TravT | and 1 piece of info i learned yesterday is that our fishbowl collides with a horizon working session. | 15:06 |
| sjmc7 | ah, wonderful | 15:06 |
| sjmc7 | is it at least nearby? | 15:06 |
| TravT | the horizon operators feedback fishbowl is right before ours in the same room | 15:06 |
| sjmc7 | not all the working sessions are of interest to everyone | 15:06 |
| TravT | yeah, their working session is a retrospective and angular planning session | 15:07 |
| TravT | https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TQ-RSlbiBBEclkonIbfUP7R1ExZSJylF1uiEKV2G_Cw/pubhtml?gid=1107826458&single=true | 15:07 |
| sjmc7 | hmm… won’t that affect many of the same people? | 15:07 |
| sjmc7 | maybe could do some horsetrading | 15:08 |
| sjmc7 | in any case, i still think your fishbowl idea for searchlight is a good one | 15:08 |
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| TravT | yeah, unfortunately, i'm sure will loss robcresswell, r1chardj0n3s, david-lyle though | 15:08 |
| sjmc7 | :( | 15:09 |
| TravT | this one: Searchlight and Searchlight UI Plugins - How to enable your service in Searchlight | 15:10 |
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| sjmc7 | yeah | 15:10 |
| sjmc7 | that’s a possibility that wouldn’t need so much horizon input | 15:10 |
| TravT | piet did say he could also do a usability results review as well... which is more of interest to horizon | 15:11 |
| sjmc7 | can maybe include something on enhancing horizon with the aggregation queries | 15:11 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, btu not if they’re all in a working group | 15:11 |
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| sjmc7 | well, my vote would be to go with that idea | 15:13 |
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| sjmc7 | and maybe see if we can have rob switch something on horizon | 15:14 |
| TravT | well, i could tell david, richard, rob that we will be doing that idea and will be showing enhancing horizon with agg queries as part of it. | 15:14 |
| sjmc7 | yeah | 15:14 |
| sjmc7 | for the working rooms, the two things that seemed to get interest were ‘ease of use of searching’ and ‘error handling’ | 15:15 |
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| sjmc7 | the working rooms in a sense are much more flexible anyway | 15:15 |
| sjmc7 | especially if brian brings pie | 15:15 |
| rosmaita | not sure what the pie situation is | 15:16 |
| rosmaita | i can handle USA pie, don't want to cause an international incident | 15:16 |
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| sjmc7 | it’ll likely be octopus or something | 15:17 |
| sjmc7 | ok, so any objections to those three things going on the agenda? for the working rooms we can add stuff at any time | 15:17 |
| lei-zh | nope | 15:18 |
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| TravT | For fishbowl, maybe we could do a 5 minute overview and demo, then have piet do 10 minutes on usability results, then myself or lei-zh doing 2 - 5 slides on plugin structure and steps to implement in SL. matt doing 10 mins on sl-ui, and finally a demo of aggregation queries enhancing the images table. | 15:19 |
| sjmc7 | that’s quite a tour de force | 15:19 |
| TravT | it is... | 15:19 |
| TravT | maybe too much | 15:19 |
| TravT | would need to be crisp | 15:19 |
| rosmaita | i wonder what the word for 'smorgasbord' is in Catalan? | 15:20 |
| sjmc7 | like a pie crust | 15:20 |
| sjmc7 | you’ve got three weeks to find out | 15:20 |
| sjmc7 | ok, i’ll put those things on the summit agenda thing | 15:20 |
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| rosmaita | google says it's 'smorgasbord' | 15:20 |
| sjmc7 | disappointing | 15:20 |
| TravT | make it sound interesting... | 15:20 |
| sjmc7 | i will do my utmost | 15:20 |
| sjmc7 | anything else on this before we move on? the last couple of things’ll be pretty quick | 15:21 |
| TravT | that might attract a few of the operators from the horizon session | 15:21 |
| sjmc7 | yeah. you can do some schmoozing too | 15:21 |
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| TravT | so, what are the working sessions? | 15:21 |
| sjmc7 | ‘ease of use for searching’, which more of in a second | 15:21 |
| sjmc7 | and improving robustness with indexing | 15:21 |
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| TravT | lei-zh, would want to do the few minutes on building a searchlight plugin? Should only be about 10 minutes? | 15:22 |
| lei-zh | sure | 15:23 |
| lei-zh | about writing a new plugin, right? | 15:23 |
| TravT | yep | 15:23 |
| lei-zh | ok, I'll take that | 15:23 |
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| TravT | would be kind of a powerpoint version of http://docs.openstack.org/developer/searchlight/authoring-plugins.html | 15:23 |
| TravT | but simpler | 15:24 |
| TravT | just an outline | 15:24 |
| TravT | sounds great! | 15:24 |
| TravT | we could do a hangout in a week or so to practice / put slides together | 15:24 |
| lei-zh | sounds a good idea | 15:25 |
| TravT | i can start a google slides project that we just collaborate on and you can add your slides into | 15:25 |
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| sjmc7 | i will leave that in your hands, and look over shoulders/point out spelling mistakes | 15:25 |
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| TravT | thanks lei-zh | 15:26 |
| lei-zh | I'll do my best :) | 15:26 |
| sjmc7 | and i mainly mean travis’ spelling mistakes | 15:26 |
| sjmc7 | ok. i’ll get those added into the summit scheduling system | 15:27 |
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| sjmc7 | i had two last things, one of which goes in hand with improving usability | 15:27 |
| sjmc7 | #topic Transforming data | 15:27 |
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| sjmc7 | i put up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382572/ after some feedback from one of our developers | 15:28 |
| sjmc7 | that IP searches were very difficult | 15:28 |
| sjmc7 | it standardizes IP addresses for resources where it makes sense, in the same way we did for ‘name’ | 15:28 |
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| sjmc7 | this obviously isn’t compatible with the openstack APIs, but i think it’s ok to enhance/add stuff with the aim of making it easier to find stuff | 15:29 |
| sjmc7 | thoughts/disagreements? | 15:29 |
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| rosmaita | i like it | 15:30 |
| RickA-HP | I haven't looked at it yet, but this is a superset of the APIs, correct? In other words we are only adding fields. | 15:30 |
| TravT | i agree, but had a question about boosting | 15:30 |
| sjmc7 | everyone’s still thinking about octopus pies | 15:30 |
| sjmc7 | RickA-HP: correct | 15:30 |
| sjmc7 | and we have done that in other place sin a limited fashion | 15:30 |
| sjmc7 | TravT: yeah, in some cases this’ll make IP addresses more boosted | 15:30 |
| sjmc7 | since they’ll match more | 15:30 |
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| sjmc7 | though actually, there’s only one place we map IPs as “type”: “ip” currently because ipv6 is troublesome | 15:31 |
| sjmc7 | and also, in general you need to specify a field when you’re doing things like CIDR or IP range searches | 15:31 |
| sjmc7 | is that what your question about boosting was? or did i just go off on a tanget? | 15:32 |
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| sjmc7 | i’ve stunned you into silence | 15:34 |
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| TravT | that was basically it | 15:34 |
| TravT | if i just type 10.0.1.1/24 | 15:34 |
| TravT | not in a specific field | 15:34 |
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| TravT | is the relevancy going to still be correct? | 15:35 |
| sjmc7 | that’s an interesting one - if you do that, it’s searching the _all field | 15:35 |
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| sjmc7 | which is a smorgasbord of all the fields | 15:35 |
| rosmaita | :) | 15:35 |
| TravT | yeah, and in watching a couple of the usability studies (i only could go to a couple) | 15:35 |
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| TravT | they kind of expected to just type something like that | 15:35 |
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| sjmc7 | yeah | 15:36 |
| sjmc7 | and that won’t work in some cases | 15:36 |
| TravT | but, i don't think that downgrades what your patch does | 15:36 |
| sjmc7 | no; the patch makes it possible to say “ipv4_addresses:10.0.1.1/24" | 15:36 |
| sjmc7 | and get all things on that subnet | 15:36 |
| sjmc7 | i toyed with adding start and end ranges for subnets too | 15:36 |
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| sjmc7 | i think though that now we’re pretty good on indexing data, we can look at improving usability | 15:37 |
| sjmc7 | so the studies you watched might give us some other clues | 15:37 |
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| sjmc7 | i shall wait a few moments for that to soak in before moving on to the last topic | 15:38 |
| TravT | i agree. | 15:40 |
| TravT | make the searches more useful and accurate | 15:40 |
| TravT | can't see what there is to complain about there | 15:40 |
| sjmc7 | okey doke. on a somewhat similar vein then: | 15:41 |
| sjmc7 | #topic Openstack API recommendations versus Elasticsearch | 15:41 |
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| sjmc7 | in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381956/ i added ‘size’ and ‘from’ as synonyms for ‘limit’ and ‘offset’ | 15:41 |
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| sjmc7 | it was pointed out that ‘limit’ and ‘offset’ are openstack (or rather, SQL) standards which is why we had them | 15:42 |
| sjmc7 | but size and from are elasticsearch DSL standards | 15:42 |
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| sjmc7 | since our API largely maps directly to elasticsearch, i’m fine with having both | 15:42 |
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| sjmc7 | and i think it would be defensible to, say, the api working group, but there’s a risk we could end up conflicting at some point | 15:43 |
| rosmaita | it's probably worth running by the api wg | 15:44 |
| RickA-HP | I think it may be confusing to have both. It seems that we should stay consistent with the OpenStack API. | 15:44 |
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| rosmaita | yeah, but we should at least reserve 'size' and 'from' so they don't get used by os api at some point | 15:44 |
| RickA-HP | I think the only ones who may want "size:" and "from" are the SL developers who are used to dealing with Elastricsearch :) | 15:44 |
| sjmc7 | rosmaita: i will, though i can forsee what they’ll say | 15:45 |
| sjmc7 | RickA-HP: that would be me :) | 15:45 |
| RickA-HP | And me! | 15:45 |
| sjmc7 | it does trip me up about every time i use it | 15:45 |
| RickA-HP | Besides, these are parameters and not really a part of the DSL query. | 15:45 |
| sjmc7 | the entire payload is compatible with the DSL for the most part | 15:46 |
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| sjmc7 | ok. i’ll run it by the WG | 15:46 |
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| sjmc7 | i can always have my shell substitute ‘limit’ for ‘size’ :) | 15:47 |
| TravT | i think both would be good | 15:47 |
| TravT | because we refer to ES docs quite often | 15:47 |
| TravT | and ES docs have info on pagination | 15:47 |
| TravT | having both can be confusing... | 15:48 |
| TravT | but | 15:48 |
| sjmc7 | yeah. the problem comes when there’s a clash, i guess. if ‘size’ ever got used to mean something else we could always drop it i suppose as an API change | 15:48 |
| sjmc7 | i’ll ask the WG and add a comment on the review | 15:48 |
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| sjmc7 | your hanging ‘but’ has thrown me | 15:50 |
| TravT | i don't know what to say | 15:50 |
| sjmc7 | :) ok | 15:50 |
| sjmc7 | that was all i had | 15:50 |
| TravT | i can see both arguments | 15:50 |
| TravT | and at the same time the API wg couldn't actually ratify their pagination recommendation anyway, right? | 15:51 |
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| sjmc7 | yeah. i’ll see what the WG say, people can vote in comments. it’s not gonna make me cry if we leave it | 15:51 |
| sjmc7 | no.. which is why the marker thing is still in use in most places but not all | 15:51 |
| rosmaita | well, i think the api wg could have a position on openstack not using query parameters that are used by other well-known apis for different purposes | 15:51 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, that’s true | 15:51 |
| sjmc7 | ok, will ask them | 15:51 |
| sjmc7 | we’re nearly out of time, bizarrely | 15:51 |
| sjmc7 | #topic open discussion | 15:51 |
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| sjmc7 | anything else anyone wanted to bring up? | 15:52 |
| rosmaita | but, the images api already allows you to filter by size | 15:52 |
| sjmc7 | so do we, for cinder/glance | 15:52 |
| sjmc7 | but yeah, “size” could be ambiguous in lots of circumstances | 15:53 |
| lei-zh | our team has an openstack book for second edition, think I will write something to introduce Searchlight | 15:53 |
| sjmc7 | oo, that’d be good lei-zh | 15:53 |
| sjmc7 | TravT: you said mirantis had included it in their containerized deployment too? | 15:54 |
| TravT | cool! | 15:54 |
| lei-zh | but it's in Chinese : ) | 15:54 |
| TravT | i saw that they mirantis had a repo set up | 15:54 |
| TravT | also, core os has something called stackenetes | 15:54 |
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| TravT | they include searchlight | 15:55 |
| TravT | https://github.com/stackanetes/stackanetes | 15:55 |
| sjmc7 | lei-zh: maybe it’ll sell enough to get an english translation | 15:55 |
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| TravT | Basically, stackenetes is the core projects + searchlight | 15:55 |
| sjmc7 | it’s certainly good we’re getting more exposure, especially if it brings more users/contributors in | 15:55 |
| TravT | cinder, glance, horizon, keystone, neutron, nova, searchlight | 15:55 |
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| admin0 | \o/ | 15:56 |
| TravT | o/ | 15:56 |
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| TravT | i have a feeling the current meeting should end. | 15:57 |
| TravT | lei-zh: i just put together a slide outline on google slides. | 15:57 |
| TravT | will send link to you | 15:57 |
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| sjmc7 | yep, think we’re done | 15:58 |
| sjmc7 | thanks everyone, enjoy the rain | 15:58 |
| sjmc7 | unless you’re RickA-HP | 15:58 |
| RickA-HP | :) | 15:58 |
| lei-zh | lol | 15:58 |
| sjmc7 | #endmeeting | 15:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 6 15:58:36 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-10-06-15.00.html | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-10-06-15.00.txt | 15:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-10-06-15.00.log.html | 15:58 |
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| admin0 | ?? | 16:01 |
| admin0 | hello… anybody home | 16:01 |
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| asettle | mhayden you hosting? or odyssey4me ? | 16:01 |
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| asettle | I can run it again | 16:02 |
| mhayden | i've got it :) | 16:02 |
| asettle | What a success that was :P | 16:02 |
| mhayden | #startmeeting OpenStack-Ansible | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 6 16:02:12 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mhayden. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack-Ansible)" | 16:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible' | 16:02 |
| mhayden | #topic Roll Call | 16:02 |
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| andymccr | o/ | 16:02 |
| mhayden | sorry folks -- was in a VC meeting reading things :P | 16:02 |
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| rromans | \o | 16:02 |
| asettle | \o/ | 16:02 |
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| palendae | Hello | 16:03 |
| prometheanfire | o/ | 16:03 |
| odyssey4me | o/ | 16:03 |
| michaelgugino | o/ | 16:03 |
| jmccrory | o/ | 16:03 |
| mhayden | i'll give it til :05 after | 16:04 |
| mhayden | let's roll! | 16:05 |
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| mhayden | #topic Review action items from last week | 16:05 |
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| mhayden | one was andymccr working on testing overrides | 16:05 |
| mhayden | which i think is moving along -- seen lots of patches | 16:05 |
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| andymccr | mhayden: done - there's a bug and its moving along, thanks to all who have helped so far | 16:05 |
| mhayden | woot | 16:05 |
| andymccr | also odyssey4me has done a lot of work to standardize some more. so tick! | 16:05 |
| mhayden | and odyssey4me was going to create some newton branches, which is obviously done :) | 16:06 |
| mhayden | HOORAY NEWTON BRANCH | 16:06 |
| andymccr | all action round here. | 16:06 |
| * mhayden toots | 16:06 | |
| mhayden | nice | 16:06 |
| asettle | Heheheh toot | 16:06 |
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| mhayden | okay, on to the next | 16:06 |
| mhayden | #topic Updating python modules in Ocata (palendae) | 16:06 |
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| mhayden | palendae: you're up! | 16:07 |
| * mhayden toots at palendae | 16:07 | |
| mhayden | okay we can come back to this one in a bit | 16:08 |
| palendae | I brought this up due to https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1614211 - our Keystone module in particular has fallen pretty far out of date | 16:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1614211 in openstack-ansible trunk "Playbook Runs Fail in Multi-Domain Environments" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Nolan Brubaker (nolan-brubaker) | 16:08 |
| mhayden | oh nvm : | 16:08 |
| spotz | \o/ | 16:08 |
| palendae | So, we either need to look into updating it, or looking at moving towards something else, like Ansible's built in modules | 16:08 |
| palendae | I think automagically added this to summit agenda | 16:08 |
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| automagically | palendae: Yep, not sure there is much to discuss right now | 16:09 |
| andymccr | palendae: do we know if the upstream ansible one is fully functional/updated regularly etc? | 16:09 |
| palendae | andymccr, That would require some research | 16:09 |
| andymccr | i guess we can discuss that at the summit, but wondering if you knew off hand | 16:09 |
| andymccr | ok cool | 16:09 |
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| palendae | Not off hand | 16:09 |
| palendae | Mostly I bring up that we have to revisit these somehow | 16:09 |
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| automagically | the infra team that works on shade has been involved in most of the PR reviews for upstream OpenStack modules | 16:09 |
| mhayden | palendae: any specific action items in the meantime pre-summit? | 16:10 |
| palendae | yeah | 16:10 |
| automagically | So, the broader OpenStack community is definitely getting voices heard | 16:10 |
| palendae | mhayden, Perhaps reviewing the upstream ansible modules. I won't be attending but can drop some links in the etherpad | 16:10 |
| andymccr | agree, probably worth moving to the upstream modules then. or at least entertaining the idea | 16:10 |
| mhayden | #action summit-attendees Talk about upstream Ansible modules for OpenStack | 16:11 |
| mhayden | palendae: anything else? | 16:11 |
| palendae | #link https://github.com/ansible/ansible-modules-extras/tree/devel/cloud/openstack | 16:11 |
| palendae | I don't think there's much else on this | 16:11 |
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| mhayden | thanks, palendae! | 16:12 |
| mhayden | #topic Install guide testing (asettle) | 16:12 |
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| * mhayden passes the mic to asettle | 16:12 | |
| asettle | Well hello everyone and thanks for coming | 16:12 |
| asettle | :p | 16:12 |
| stevelle | no toots? | 16:12 |
| asettle | Yeah man, where ma toot? | 16:12 |
| * admin0 toots | 16:12 | |
| asettle | Thanks admin0 | 16:12 |
| mhayden | aye | 16:12 |
| asettle | Anyway, newton was out today! yay! I've had general feedback that the install guide is smooth! Few errors overall, but nothing that can't be fixed. | 16:12 |
| asettle | Aim is to be completely confident before the summit | 16:13 |
| asettle | So people that are now free, please take the time to review | 16:13 |
| asettle | Myself, and Ianeta my colleague, are going through and making edits of the guide still | 16:13 |
| asettle | But other than that, it's pretty much all done, good to go :) | 16:13 |
| asettle | If anyone has any bugs | 16:13 |
| admin0 | i am running various scenarious on multi-node testing and reporting issues | 16:13 |
| asettle | please raise with [DOCS] or [install-guide] | 16:13 |
| mhayden | those are some good edits from ianeta -- she fixed a bunch of my terrible grammar | 16:13 |
| asettle | admin0: many issues? | 16:13 |
| admin0 | some :) | 16:13 |
| admin0 | might have 2 more | 16:13 |
| admin0 | not blockers, but annoying stuffs | 16:14 |
| asettle | mhayden: yes, we had the RPC team editor run over it, she filed bugs with me, so I was able to put them into a patch that Ianeta and I are working through :) | 16:14 |
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| asettle | admin0: yep, that's what I've heard. Feel free to patch those up yourself, I have confidence in you all. | 16:14 |
| asettle | Thanks for taking the time to run through it admin0 :) | 16:14 |
| asettle | Anyway, that's all from me. I believe evrardjp is also running through it, so there'll be more bugs around | 16:15 |
| asettle | Thanks everyone for your hard work over the last few months on this guide! | 16:15 |
| admin0 | like keepalive VIP ip not coming up, then setup-infra fails due to repo not found ..and you cannot rerun because the proxy is already set .. so you have to first delete the proxy, run the update, run the playbook again , manually restart the keepalive to bring the VIP up an then can continue again | 16:15 |
| mhayden | awesome! | 16:15 |
| mhayden | thanks, asettle | 16:15 |
| asettle | The aim is to get it on the main docs.o.o site | 16:15 |
| asettle | So, stay tuned for that development | 16:15 |
| asettle | admin0: ahh good info, okay, thanks | 16:15 |
| admin0 | will test and file bugs .. lets move o | 16:16 |
| mhayden | okay, movin' along | 16:16 |
| asettle | :) | 16:16 |
| mhayden | #topic Xenial to become a voting job for integrated builds (andymccr) | 16:16 |
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| * mhayden passes the mic to andymccr | 16:16 | |
| andymccr | ok - so we have xenial support, but the gating is on "non-voting" at the moment | 16:16 |
| andymccr | the main reason being, that while it works, our current gate takes a long time and causes failures which need rechecks because of timeouts | 16:16 |
| andymccr | thats fine, except if we have 2 gates that both do that, we then have double the chance of failure (for timeouts) and struggle to get patches merged | 16:17 |
| andymccr | in Ocata I would envision us moving to use Xenial only - so it may be worth enabling xenial over trusty at this point, but I'm not sure its as cut and dried as "just enable xenial" | 16:17 |
| andymccr | odyssey4me: thoughts? | 16:17 |
| andymccr | michaelgugino: also thoughts! | 16:17 |
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| michaelgugino | we previously discussed dropping support for trusty in ocata, so that sounds sensible | 16:18 |
| odyssey4me | Ocata - Xenial only, yes - we just need to adjust the jobs for that but don't need to do that immediately | 16:18 |
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| automagically | I’m all for Newton having a Trusty NV gate if it buys us a Xenial voting gate | 16:18 |
| odyssey4me | well, xenial & centos | 16:18 |
| palendae | Do we know what hte upgrade path looks like for the distro changes? | 16:18 |
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| mhayden | andymccr: are we talking about making the xenial job voting in Ocata + Newton? | 16:19 |
| michaelgugino | palendae: we previously discussed not supporting upgrade between distros | 16:19 |
| andymccr | palendae: not yet, but the issue is mainly that afaik other projects are not testing on xenial at all | 16:19 |
| palendae | michaelgugino, That'll be....fun | 16:19 |
| andymccr | so even if we want to keep trusty support, i don't believe its feasible. | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | gimme a moment - two meetings argh | 16:20 |
| palendae | Sure, I'm just concerned we're going to face a big, big battle getting people to move past Newton if they have to pave | 16:20 |
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| odyssey4me | the trouble is that for the integrated build we very rarely get two successful results | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | so one needs to be voting, and one non | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | I'm happy to flip Xenial to voting for Newton for the integrated gate... but we do need to recognise that it fails more often than the trusty one. | 16:20 |
| michaelgugino | I vote for xenial as that what the community is doing. | 16:21 |
| andymccr | i propose: Leave it as is for newton (since we're basically there), in Ocata we switch it, and we discuss at the summit more around the whole trusty-->xenial how we handle that and other bits | 16:21 |
| jmccrory | palendae : think upgrades would be possible if the controller hosts are taken down and upgraded one at a time, and then computes whenever convenient | 16:21 |
| andymccr | i think there is a larger discussion around reducing the gate time so that the xenial gate is more stable (in terms of timeouts) | 16:21 |
| palendae | jmccrory, I already know our team will not accept that | 16:21 |
| andymccr | and i have a few ideas around that as do a few of you | 16:21 |
| palendae | But in terms of flipping between trusty/xenial, I have no opposition | 16:22 |
| palendae | I just want to make sure we've got a decent path forward for existing installs | 16:22 |
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| andymccr | palendae: i agree, but thats largely "how you deploy/upgrade" it may not fall within OSA itself, the fact that kernel upgrade has to happen is pretty much mandated by the other proejcts and not us. The best we can do is facilitate upgrades in some manner | 16:23 |
| palendae | Yeah | 16:24 |
| palendae | Again, it's not so much Xenial support itself | 16:24 |
| palendae | It's that a lot of installs aren't yet Mitaka | 16:24 |
| palendae | So we don't know how Newton/Xenial upgrading actually plays out | 16:24 |
| admin0 | but can’t we say “to ensure you are aligned with OSA and ready for future, we recommend the followig deployment/upgrade path” ? | 16:24 |
| andymccr | ok so for now, should we vote on whether we want xenial or trusty for the main newton voting gate - we can discuss the other bits at the summit. | 16:25 |
| andymccr | admin0: definitely | 16:25 |
| palendae | Fair | 16:25 |
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| andymccr | its definitely an important issue and i think we can do a lot to help the upgrade path, just conscious that its a larger discussion than we can really have on irc right now! | 16:25 |
| mhayden | ready to vote now? | 16:25 |
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| andymccr | sure am mhayden - you hit that button! | 16:26 |
| mhayden | #startvote Should Xenial or Trusty be the voting gate in Newton? Xenial, Trusty | 16:26 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Should Xenial or Trusty be the voting gate in Newton? Valid vote options are Xenial, Trusty. | 16:26 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 16:26 |
| andymccr | #vote Trusty | 16:26 |
| palendae | #vote Trusty | 16:26 |
| admin0 | #vote xenial | 16:26 |
| spotz | #vote trusty | 16:26 |
| andymccr | automagically: michaelgugino: odyssey4me you guys had voices on this | 16:26 |
| michaelgugino | #vote xenial | 16:27 |
| automagically | #vote xenial | 16:27 |
| palendae | Were we doing 2 votes? | 16:27 |
| admin0 | \o/ we flip a coin now | 16:27 |
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| palendae | Flipping Newton immediately after release? | 16:27 |
| automagically | #vote Xenial | 16:27 |
| mhayden | #vote Trusty | 16:27 |
| admin0 | #vote xenial | 16:27 |
| odyssey4me | I'm not fussed. I'd prefer to leave it trusty now, and switch to Xenial once we have stabilised the time of execution a bit) | 16:27 |
| jmccrory | #vote Trusty | 16:27 |
| odyssey4me | #vote trusty | 16:28 |
| odyssey4me | #vote Trusty | 16:28 |
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| spotz | yeah I thought we were in concensus of trusty for now xenial Ocata:) | 16:28 |
| mhayden | not sure if caps matters :P | 16:28 |
| mhayden | #vote WUTWUT | 16:28 |
| openstack | mhayden: WUTWUT is not a valid option. Valid options are Xenial, Trusty. | 16:28 |
| michaelgugino | I don't think the flip has to be immediate. I was thinking we should flip the gate for newton to xenial at some near point in the future. | 16:28 |
| mhayden | haha, well i guess it doesn't matter on capitalization | 16:28 |
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| mhayden | #endvote | 16:28 |
| openstack | Voted on "Should Xenial or Trusty be the voting gate in Newton?" Results are | 16:28 |
| openstack | Trusty (6): palendae, odyssey4me, spotz, andymccr, jmccrory, mhayden | 16:28 |
| openstack | Xenial (3): admin0, michaelgugino, automagically | 16:28 |
| spotz | must be windows based mhayden:) | 16:28 |
| andymccr | michaelgugino: in master we'll move to Xenial for sure | 16:28 |
| palendae | Newton/Trusty, Ocata/Xenial is my stance | 16:28 |
| andymccr | palendae: yip, ok cool that issue is done then! | 16:29 |
| mhayden | so we will keep trusty for now and take a look at switching to xenial later (maybe at summit?) | 16:29 |
| andymccr | mhayden: essentially yes | 16:29 |
| mhayden | #agreed Newton's default voting gate will remain on Trusty for now. Revisit the choice later this month at the Summit. | 16:29 |
| mhayden | do we need to talk about Ocata for now or hold that for the summit? | 16:29 |
| * mhayden notes we're at half past the hour | 16:30 | |
| andymccr | mhayden: yeah we'll move Ocata to Xenial but we can discuss at the summit | 16:30 |
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| mhayden | #action summit-attendees Discuss moving Ocata gate to Xenial | 16:30 |
| mhayden | okay, ready for the next topic? | 16:30 |
| andymccr | si | 16:30 |
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| mhayden | #topic Filing bugs for gate failures (andymccr) | 16:31 |
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| * mhayden passes the mic back to andymccr | 16:31 | |
| andymccr | quick one, just a request really - we've had a few gate failures (role specific) for random issues, that are transient and just get rechecked | 16:31 |
| andymccr | mostly nova/neutron/cinder that i've worked on/tried to fix. | 16:31 |
| andymccr | if we can just file bugs for those if you see them come up - would be greatly appreciated because it allows us to see the state/if it's new etc - and we can track/fix them a bit better | 16:32 |
| andymccr | (that is all) | 16:32 |
| mhayden | sounds good | 16:32 |
| mhayden | #topic Barcelona Summit schedule (andymccr) | 16:32 |
| automagically | andymccr: Great idea | 16:32 |
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| andymccr | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osa-barcelona-schedule | 16:33 |
| andymccr | I've added our summit sessions into the etherpad - we should probably decide which ones we want as priority, or we can be more adlib. I think the first 2 sessions (on the wednesday) can be to discuss what we're planning for the summit | 16:33 |
| michaelgugino | My internal peeps really want a way to integrate ceph-ansible inventory with osa | 16:33 |
| andymccr | and we have fish bowls first thing thursday which are more for a "here's what we've done - here's where we're going" for outsides. | 16:34 |
| andymccr | michaelgugino: i have heard some people ask for ceph-ansible to be more closely integrated, so i'm sure we can discuss | 16:34 |
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| admin0 | it will save me hours per day setting-up and re-setting up the ceph cluster to test | 16:34 |
| odyssey4me | michaelgugino andymccr I think I added that to the discussion options | 16:35 |
| admin0 | but again, as operator, if ceph is the way to go, and also mongodb for ceilometer/aodh, those should be automatically installed or have a way to installed | 16:35 |
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| admin0 | like we treat mysql or rabbit | 16:35 |
| odyssey4me | admin0 mongodb is no longer the way to go, ceph is preferred actually | 16:35 |
| odyssey4me | stevelle can comment in a more informed fashion | 16:35 |
| andymccr | so request :) update the etherpad, put +'s next to topics youre really interested in and lets get a headstart | 16:35 |
| admin0 | even for aodh and ceilometer ? | 16:35 |
| automagically | michaelgugino: Have you tried the overlay approach that logan- did | 16:35 |
| andymccr | there is also a section if you're giving a talk - people may well be interested in that! | 16:36 |
| michaelgugino | ceph is it's own specialty. And I think the ceph-ansible plays are good. If we integrate, it should only be consumption. | 16:36 |
| automagically | See https://logan.protiumit.com/ | 16:36 |
| automagically | #link https://logan.protiumit.com/ | 16:36 |
| odyssey4me | admin0 for gnocchi, yes - ceilometer is becoming just an API | 16:36 |
| stevelle | admin0: especially for aodh | 16:36 |
| odyssey4me | and for aodh I think it just uses MySQL now | 16:36 |
| admin0 | odyssey4me: so why is it not in our docs yet :D | 16:36 |
| admin0 | or in any docs | 16:36 |
| admin0 | or am i reading the wrong stuff :) | 16:36 |
| stevelle | admin0: it's in release notes | 16:36 |
| michaelgugino | I have not seen that overlay stuff before | 16:36 |
| admin0 | stevelle: everyone (via search, links) end up there: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-ansible/liberty/install-guide/configure-aodh.html :) | 16:38 |
| admin0 | and not in the release notes :( | 16:38 |
| stevelle | admin0: that's liberty | 16:38 |
| admin0 | same for mitaka, nothing yet for newton | 16:38 |
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| admin0 | was trying to say about actual links and not release notes .. and not specific liberty | 16:39 |
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| asettle | admin0: for aodh? | 16:39 |
| admin0 | that was what stevelle said above :) | 16:39 |
| admin0 | its news to me and my hands are already ticking to test it out | 16:40 |
| admin0 | but no docs yet on how to even get started :) | 16:40 |
| logan- | thanks automagically. michaelgugino, if you happen to take a look and have any feedback/questions let me know. its an approach i have used successfully since Kilo to combine ceph-ansible and various other unrelated roles with osa | 16:40 |
| automagically | admin0 - Open some bugs about the docs plz | 16:40 |
| palendae | Or better yet, patches | 16:40 |
| stevelle | admin0: we added the mysql support by default in newton, so the mitaka docs won't reflect that :P | 16:40 |
| michaelgugino | logan-: will take a look, thanks | 16:40 |
| asettle | admin0: all roles are moved into their own docs: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-ansible-os_aodh/ | 16:40 |
| mhayden | anything else to add to the summit agenda for now? | 16:41 |
| asettle | From the Newton install guide: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-ansible/newton/install-guide/app-advanced-config-options.html | 16:41 |
| asettle | I'm not too sure if that answers your question or not, but that's where it lives. | 16:41 |
| admin0 | please multi-region support .. make it easy for people who already have a working openstack to have a new one :) | 16:41 |
| admin0 | so that they can easily migrate /upgrade to this new one | 16:41 |
| admin0 | just means : integrate with exisiting keystone and install itself as a new region | 16:41 |
| odyssey4me | IIRC automagically was going to do a blog post around that? | 16:41 |
| automagically | odyssey4me: Yep, still on my TODO list | 16:42 |
| automagically | I’m still off in golang land for a bit tho | 16:42 |
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| admin0 | so in the summit, i just need to find the rackspace corner, and i will be able to meet you guys there :D ? | 16:42 |
| logan- | for multi-region I did a paste with a POC config I did recently on multi-region. we're pushing to begin adding regions next month, so I will try to get some blogging done as we finalize the configs | 16:43 |
| mhayden | okay, let's move on | 16:43 |
| mhayden | #topic PTG in Atlanta Feb 20-24 (andymccr) | 16:44 |
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| mhayden | is there a fee for attending the PTG? | 16:44 |
| odyssey4me | admin0 nope, we'll likely be at the design summit most of the time | 16:44 |
| andymccr | ok so I know this is far in advance, but I've started getting queries around the PTG - and whether we will be attending. AFAIK there will be RAX attendance, but michaelgugino jmccrory automagically everybody else, would you be able to attend? | 16:45 |
| stevelle | good topic | 16:45 |
| andymccr | mhayden: im not sure - but i'll find out those details, for now its early doors. so its more just a "heads up" add an action and i'll follow up with more details | 16:45 |
| automagically | No idea yet. Possible, but improbably I think at this point | 16:45 |
| michaelgugino | what is the PTG? | 16:45 |
| palendae | Worth asking now | 16:45 |
| michaelgugino | oh, the new 'midcyle' ? | 16:45 |
| andymccr | michaelgugino: yeah basically | 16:45 |
| palendae | michaelgugino, Summit's being split; PTG is basically where the work will happen | 16:45 |
| andymccr | Project Team Gathering | 16:46 |
| palendae | But worth letting your management know now | 16:46 |
| jmccrory | i'll probably be able to go | 16:46 |
| spotz | Foundation said there will still be a design summit at the summits though | 16:46 |
| michaelgugino | I can't say. Presumably yes, if that's where everyone is going to do the work. But having two summits presents a budgetary problem for my org. | 16:46 |
| andymccr | excellent, there isn't really a need to confirm right now - its more a headsup and to let you know that is coming up. Here is some basic info | 16:46 |
| palendae | spotz, Right, just not as much as before | 16:46 |
| andymccr | #link https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ | 16:47 |
| palendae | michaelgugino, It does for a lot of people | 16:47 |
| mhayden | okay, let's move on to open floor | 16:48 |
| stevelle | the way I understand it, the big conference will not have nearly as much work done, so starting to tilt limited budgets toward PTG rather than the big conference might make sense | 16:48 |
| mhayden | #topic Open floor | 16:48 |
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| mhayden | many thanks to the folks who merged some things to help me move along with the RHEL 7 STIG work ;) | 16:48 |
| palendae | I've thrown up a POC for taking the documented bash commands and putting them into scripts to actually be run. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382649/ and https://gist.github.com/nrb/ce831c967192a7c73717f44d35a56905 for sample outpu | 16:49 |
| andymccr | palendae: the idea being to run the script in your gist? | 16:50 |
| palendae | andymccr, Hopefully, yes | 16:50 |
| palendae | To verify that the commands actually work | 16:50 |
| palendae | Some obviously will be in isolation and can't | 16:50 |
| palendae | And they may not be gateable given they require setting up a whole stack | 16:51 |
| andymccr | palendae: ok cool - i'd personally like to see some kind of upgrade gate/check whether thats periodical or not, or just between stable branches - i dont know. | 16:51 |
| palendae | But if people don't find that useful just as happy to abandon it | 16:51 |
| andymccr | but the feasibility of that is questionable. | 16:51 |
| palendae | It pulls out bash from every file, not just the upgrade stuff | 16:51 |
| mhayden | anything else for today? | 16:53 |
| andymccr | i'll try take a look tomorrow | 16:53 |
| michaelgugino | it would be nice if we had a 'scenarios' page that we can use for each role in the docs, to help better formulate testing manually | 16:53 |
| asettle | michaelgugino: good suggestion. File a bug and I'll look into it. | 16:53 |
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| michaelgugino | it would also be nice to have a NV check for 'new code path' in each of the repos | 16:54 |
| michaelgugino | something like an extra tox env that is generic, and you can submit something like test-extra.yml or something like that to get gate coverage to prove your feature works in the gate | 16:55 |
| michaelgugino | or possibly check-experimental | 16:55 |
| palendae | Why not just add the new test with the feature? | 16:55 |
| stevelle | ^ possibly w/ check-experimental usage | 16:56 |
| michaelgugino | sometimes the features are competing. Deploying cinder + ceph backend, deploying cinder + 2 ceph backends. Both should work. | 16:56 |
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| michaelgugino | Basically, I'm proposing a standard interface for all the roles / projects that patchsets can make use of. | 16:57 |
| mhayden | okay, we can carry this over to the main channel | 16:57 |
| mhayden | i'll close up the mtg | 16:57 |
| mhayden | thanks everyone! | 16:57 |
| mhayden | #endmeeting | 16:57 |
| andymccr | we can also discuss that at the summit! | 16:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 6 16:57:30 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:57 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-10-06-16.02.html | 16:57 |
| andymccr | add it as a topic ;D | 16:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-10-06-16.02.txt | 16:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-10-06-16.02.log.html | 16:57 |
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| LouisF | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 6 17:02:12 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is LouisF. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining' | 17:02 |
| LouisF | hi all | 17:02 |
| igordcard | hi | 17:02 |
| bcafarel | hi | 17:02 |
| mohankumar | hi | 17:02 |
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| LouisF | here is agenda for today https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ServiceFunctionChainingMeeting#Agenda_for_the_Networking-SFC_Meeting_.2810.2F6.2F2016.29 | 17:03 |
| yamahata | hello | 17:03 |
| LouisF | anything to add? | 17:03 |
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| pcarver | hi | 17:04 |
| LouisF | hi all | 17:04 |
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| LouisF | #topic progress status | 17:05 |
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| doonhammer | greetings | 17:05 |
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| LouisF | Replace OvsSfcAgent by L2 Agent Extension https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351789/ | 17:06 |
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| bcafarel | there are some +1 reviews now, nothing noted in the code itself after last fix (thanks igordcard), | 17:07 |
| LouisF | what is progress on testing this? | 17:07 |
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| igordcard | LouisF: I got the flows I was expecting, with the last patchset | 17:08 |
| LouisF | i know that some testing has been done | 17:08 |
| bcafarel | I'll fix the functional test which in fact does nothing at the moment, and I want to add some unit tests on the extension itself (most are on the ovs driver), but nothing blocking | 17:08 |
| LouisF | i would like to see some more testing done before final approval | 17:09 |
| LouisF | i will get more testing done | 17:10 |
| LouisF | next item - Move to using OpenStack Client (OSC) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344920/ | 17:10 |
| LouisF | mohankumar: what is status of testing this? | 17:11 |
| mohankumar | LouisF, Got distracted with SFC-heat support and other work items . this patch needd some more testing , will open to review soon with UT | 17:11 |
| LouisF | mohankumar: ok thanks for your efforts on this | 17:12 |
| LouisF | i can also start testing on osc for sfc | 17:13 |
| mohankumar | LouisF , okay | 17:13 |
| LouisF | mohankumar: thnaks | 17:13 |
| LouisF | next item - Symmetric chain API https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308274/ | 17:13 |
| LouisF | pavel had started this work - I will be updating with a new patch | 17:14 |
| LouisF | i will also post a new patch on the changes for the ovs driver/agent | 17:15 |
| mohankumar | LouisF , great ! | 17:15 |
| LouisF | next - Networking-sfc / OVN driver spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333172/ | 17:16 |
| igordcard | LouisF: is that based on the new agent? | 17:16 |
| LouisF | igordcard: it will be once that is merged | 17:16 |
| LouisF | all - please review this | 17:17 |
| LouisF | doonhammer: there is a presentation at the summit on this - right? | 17:17 |
| doonhammer | LouisF: I think one of next steps is to get the draft OVN spec done and to the OVN/OVS team | 17:17 |
| doonhammer | LouisF: If we get it put together :-) | 17:18 |
| LouisF | doonhammer: yes | 17:18 |
| doonhammer | LouisF: Also I think we might be able to have a f2f in Barcelona | 17:18 |
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| LouisF | doonhammer: yes that will be very useful | 17:19 |
| doonhammer | with the OVS/OVN team so iif we have some details to discuss by then it would be good | 17:19 |
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| LouisF | doonhammer: we can go over the proposed changes to ovn-nbctl and the SB logical flows with them | 17:20 |
| doonhammer | LouisF: yup that would be ideal | 17:20 |
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| * sridhar_ram has couple of items to discuss on tacker+sfc, if time permits | 17:21 | |
| LouisF | sridhar_ram: ok | 17:21 |
| sridhar_ram | LouisF: thanks, can i go now ? | 17:22 |
| LouisF | sridhar_ram: go ahead | 17:22 |
| sridhar_ram | LouisF: 1st.. it will be good if tacker & sfc team can meet for a F2F in Barcelona.. | 17:23 |
| LouisF | sridhar_ram: definitely | 17:23 |
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| sridhar_ram | LouisF: i'm not travelling .. but sripriya is the acting PTL.. we have identified a design summit slot for this | 17:24 |
| LouisF | sridhar_ram: let me know the details | 17:24 |
| sridhar_ram | LouisF: here is the agenda .. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tacker-ocata-summit | 17:24 |
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| sridhar_ram | LouisF: one possible slot is Friday AM (already penciled in).. but I'll ask sripriya to coordinate with you and the sfc team | 17:25 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: ^^^ | 17:25 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: catching up | 17:26 |
| sridhar_ram | LouisF: next, the issue related to network_src_port_id restriction in the classifier.. | 17:26 |
| LouisF | sridhar_ram: i will contact her | 17:26 |
| sridhar_ram | LouisF: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-October/105153.html | 17:26 |
| sridhar_ram | LouisF: I've described the downside of this here ^^^ | 17:26 |
| sridhar_ram | LouisF: anyway we can address and remove this restriction ? | 17:26 |
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| LouisF | sridhar_ram: there are several issues - 1. if the logical source port is not specified the ovs classifier rules must be installed on all compute nodes | 17:28 |
| LouisF | there is also an issue with matches on traffic entering via a router | 17:30 |
| LouisF | and this causes a chain path loop :( | 17:31 |
| sridhar_ram | LouisF: I see | 17:31 |
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| sridhar_ram | LouisF: I'd like to request for some ideas.. perhaps out of the box to atleast reduce this restriction.. | 17:32 |
| sridhar_ram | LouisF: can this classifier be applied only when a vif matching a specific "source critieria" .. perhaps we can use port tagging ? | 17:32 |
| LouisF | sridhar_ram: we are open to explore ideas on this | 17:32 |
| sridhar_ram | LouisF: btw, traffic entering via a router is a huge use-case that we need to address | 17:32 |
| LouisF | sridhar_ram: agree | 17:32 |
| sridhar_ram | LouisF: okay.. didn't mean to hold your meeting, just want to bring this up.. | 17:33 |
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| sridhar_ram | LouisF: perhaps this can be discussed further in the F2F summit meeting | 17:33 |
| LouisF | sridhar_ram: noted - we are actively looking at options as we are aware of the issue | 17:33 |
| sridhar_ram | LouisF: thanks | 17:34 |
| LouisF | yes we should definitely discuss | 17:34 |
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| LouisF | sridhar_ram: any other issues from your side? | 17:34 |
| sridhar_ram | LouisF: no, that is it for now :) | 17:34 |
| LouisF | sridhar_ram: ok | 17:35 |
| LouisF | sridhar_ram: btw anil did a demo at the odl summit - right? | 17:36 |
| sridhar_ram | LouisF: yes, he did .. neutron-sfc + ODL-sfc .. i heard it went really well | 17:36 |
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| LouisF | sridhar_ram: is there video on that? | 17:37 |
| sridhar_ram | LouisF: for our FFG talk we are preparing a demo of Tacker --> n-sfc--> ODL-SFC ..!! | 17:37 |
| sridhar_ram | LouisF: building on top of Anil's | 17:37 |
| LouisF | sridhar_ram: great - we should discuss the talk later | 17:38 |
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| sridhar_ram | LouisF: sounds good | 17:38 |
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| LouisF | igordcard: i missed the nsh work https://review.openstack.org/#/c/373465/ | 17:40 |
| LouisF | what is the status of that? | 17:41 |
| igordcard | LouisF: working right now | 17:41 |
| igordcard | it's almost done | 17:41 |
| igordcard | it's given me more trouble than I antecipated, but it's almost done now | 17:41 |
| LouisF | igordcard: great - looking foward to the update | 17:41 |
| igordcard | I'm fixing the classification flows when there no sfc-proxy is needed | 17:41 |
| LouisF | igordcard: ok | 17:41 |
| igordcard | s/there// | 17:42 |
| igordcard | I plan to start asap the sfc graphs work, which will directly build on top of this one | 17:42 |
| LouisF | igordcard: will you be in barcelona? | 17:42 |
| igordcard | I will rebase the patches to bernard's ovs agent later, likely after the summit | 17:42 |
| igordcard | yes | 17:43 |
| LouisF | igordcard: we should have a design session | 17:43 |
| igordcard | LouisF: yes! | 17:43 |
| LouisF | we can discuss future work | 17:44 |
| igordcard | I plan on doing some work on the common classifier for the next cycle as well | 17:45 |
| LouisF | igordcard: ok | 17:46 |
| igordcard | when is networking-sfc expecting to shift to a neutron classifier? when there's one | 17:46 |
| LouisF | igordcard: yes | 17:46 |
| LouisF | igordcard: regaing this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/1630657 | 17:47 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1630657 in networking-sfc "project_id not being leveraged by the OVS driver" [Undecided,New] | 17:47 |
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| LouisF | can you attach steps to reproduce | 17:47 |
| igordcard | LouisF: yes, but it's how cathy says (just read) | 17:48 |
| LouisF | igordcard: likewise https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/1630503 | 17:48 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1630503 in networking-sfc "DB transaction issues since switching to Newton" [Undecided,New] | 17:48 |
| LouisF | igordcard: ok | 17:49 |
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| igordcard | okay | 17:49 |
| LouisF | ok this is all i have | 17:50 |
| LouisF | anything else to discuss? | 17:50 |
| LouisF | ok thanks all | 17:51 |
| LouisF | 'til next week | 17:51 |
| LouisF | bye all | 17:51 |
| bcafarel | bye | 17:52 |
| igordcard | bye | 17:52 |
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| LouisF | #endmeeting | 17:52 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 6 17:52:34 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-10-06-17.02.html | 17:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-10-06-17.02.txt | 17:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-10-06-17.02.log.html | 17:52 |
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