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| apuimedo | #startmeeting kuryr | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 3 14:00:12 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is apuimedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kuryr' | 14:00 |
| apuimedo | Hello and welcome to the weekly Kuryr IRC meeting | 14:00 |
| apuimedo | who's here today? | 14:00 |
| vikasc | o/ | 14:00 |
| tonanhngo | o/ | 14:00 |
| lmdaly | o/ | 14:00 |
| hongbin | o/ | 14:01 |
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| ivc_ | o/ | 14:01 |
| apuimedo | #info vikasc tonanhngo lmdaly hongbin ivc_ and apuimedo present | 14:01 |
| yedongcan | o/ | 14:02 |
| limao | o/ | 14:02 |
| apuimedo | welcome everybody | 14:02 |
| apuimedo | let's get this started | 14:02 |
| apuimedo | first, I want to apologize for failing to set an agenda today | 14:02 |
| apuimedo | #topic kuryr-lib | 14:03 |
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| janonymous | o/ | 14:03 |
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| apuimedo | #info tox coverage task was fixed and limao enabled an infra job for the coverage | 14:04 |
| apuimedo | #info: we abandoned the rest/rpc approach we were pursuing | 14:05 |
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| apuimedo | #info the patch for ipvlan/macvlan support (mostly for containers in Nova instances) is approved and ready for merging https://review.openstack.org/375864 | 14:05 |
| apuimedo | #action apuimedo and vikasc to check the keystone/neutron possibilities to have limited usage tokens or use neutron policy instead of the REST/RPC approach | 14:06 |
| apuimedo | this last action item is to address the Magnum deployments in which it would be good to minimize what gets stored on the worker nodes | 14:07 |
| apuimedo | questions? Other items? | 14:07 |
| tonanhngo | Thanks for addressing this concern | 14:07 |
| apuimedo | tonanhngo: we still don't have a clear cut solution though | 14:07 |
| ivc_ | > use neutron policy instead of the REST/RPC approach | 14:08 |
| tonanhngo | It has been a major issue in other areas also, and we don't have a good solution either | 14:08 |
| ivc_ | i think we can outline that we are talking about kuryr-specific neutron instance here right? | 14:08 |
| ivc_ | s/neutron/neutron api server/ | 14:08 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: sure we can | 14:08 |
| apuimedo | the worker nodes should only be able to perform actions with resources of a specific tenant and only the neutron api endpoints that kuryr use should be usable | 14:09 |
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| apuimedo | (from the instances) | 14:09 |
| apuimedo | tonanhngo: hongbin: that should be it, right? | 14:10 |
| apuimedo | also, there is the problem of credential storage, iirc | 14:10 |
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| tonanhngo | yes that sounds about right | 14:10 |
| apuimedo | tonanhngo: for credential storage, what would be acceptable? | 14:11 |
| apuimedo | I think in Austin we discussed that keystone was adding some special restricted tokens, but I have not followed the progress of that | 14:11 |
| tonanhngo | generally in production, we have to ensure that users can not take the info we store on their VM to overstep their priviledge | 14:11 |
| apuimedo | tonanhngo: should their own tenant token be fair game, then? | 14:12 |
| ivc_ | apuimedo tonanhngo, if we have a kuryr-specific instance that is only accessible from within the nova vm with containers, maybe we can just use no-auth and rely on firewall policies? | 14:12 |
| tonanhngo | Yes, the approach we took so far with Kubernetes plugin is to let the user enter their own credential | 14:13 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: when you say a kuryr-specific instance | 14:13 |
| tonanhngo | then whatever resources they request would be within their priviledge | 14:13 |
| apuimedo | you mean a neutron server instance only for the kuryr deployment, is that right? | 14:13 |
| ivc_ | apuimedo right | 14:13 |
| apuimedo | tonanhngo: that is most likely the first step we'll have to take | 14:14 |
| ivc_ | and probably also limited to just the tenant entitled to that server | 14:14 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: this specific instance would have to go to the same DB | 14:14 |
| apuimedo | as the rest of neutron, right? | 14:14 |
| ivc_ | yes | 14:14 |
| apuimedo | well, if we can constrain it adequately in no-auth mode, that is certainly one option | 14:14 |
| ivc_ | the only question is if it is possible in neutron | 14:15 |
| apuimedo | although we should take care that, in this case, if the containers get put on the same network as in the instance (as is the case in macvlan/ipvlan) that would mean that the containers themselves could perform neutron actions) | 14:15 |
| ivc_ | we could probably have neutron api server accessible with e.g. floating ip from containers | 14:16 |
| ivc_ | maybe even run that api server inside the nova vm | 14:16 |
| ivc_ | like octavia does with haproxy in nova | 14:17 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: I don't think it should be accessible | 14:17 |
| apuimedo | from the containers | 14:17 |
| apuimedo | and the neutron server, with access to the DB, should not run in the instance | 14:17 |
| ivc_ | s/from containers/from containers host vm/ | 14:17 |
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| ivc_ | why not? we can have the vm connected to multiple networks - 1 for neutron db/rabbit and other for tenant containers | 14:18 |
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| apuimedo | ivc_: it is owned by the tenant, I don't think tenant owned VMs should have access to the DB | 14:19 |
| hongbin | yes, it is undesirable | 14:19 |
| ivc_ | true. agreed | 14:19 |
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| hongbin | vm belongs to the tenants, neutron db belongs to the neutron control plane. they should not talk to each other | 14:20 |
| apuimedo | right | 14:20 |
| apuimedo | I think it is sensible for now to start with having Neutron accessible and have the kuryr agents configured with the tenant token | 14:20 |
| ivc_ | what i was thinking is an approach similar to how octavia/lbaasv2 runs haproxy inside the vm | 14:20 |
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| apuimedo | hongbin: after we have this, we have to tackle hardening of access to resources in the same way for all Magnum (be it for storage or networking) | 14:21 |
| ivc_ | so that would be neutron-api-server as-a-service :) | 14:21 |
| hongbin | apuimedo: sure | 14:21 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: that VM is not managed by the tenants, is it? | 14:21 |
| hongbin | apuimedo: however, the token will expire, no sure how you are going to deal with the expiration | 14:22 |
| ivc_ | i have not checked, but i think its not | 14:22 |
| apuimedo | hongbin: true, probably then pki or user/pass | 14:22 |
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| hongbin | apuimedo: i see | 14:23 |
| ivc_ | apuimedo or cert? | 14:23 |
| ivc_ | oh thats pki | 14:23 |
| apuimedo | :P | 14:23 |
| tonanhngo | It may be worth coming to the Keystone session in Barcelona and ask them. I have talked to their PTL but they don't have a good solution either. | 14:23 |
| apuimedo | tonanhngo: when did you talk with them last? | 14:23 |
| tonanhngo | about a month ago | 14:23 |
| apuimedo | quite recent. Well, that saves us some work | 14:24 |
| apuimedo | but yes, we should talk with them | 14:24 |
| tonanhngo | he suggested a few ideas | 14:24 |
| tonanhngo | including some new work on x509 | 14:24 |
| apuimedo | tonanhngo: could you bring them to a mailing list thread with the [magnum][keystone][kuryr] tags? | 14:24 |
| tonanhngo | Sure, will do | 14:25 |
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| apuimedo | and I think we should invite them to the joint fish bowl session we'll have in Barcelona | 14:25 |
| apuimedo | hongbin: tonanhngo: what do you think? | 14:25 |
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| tonanhngo | Sounds good | 14:25 |
| hongbin | good idea | 14:26 |
| apuimedo | cool | 14:26 |
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| apuimedo | #action apuimedo to invite the keystone people to the magnum/kuryr fish bowl session | 14:26 |
| apuimedo | #topic: kuryr-libnetwork | 14:26 |
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| apuimedo | #info we finished dropping netaddr in favor of ipaddress | 14:27 |
| apuimedo | #info dongcan continued cleaning up the codebase after the split by dropping duplicate constants | 14:28 |
| apuimedo | *yedongcan | 14:28 |
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| apuimedo | #info apuimedo is working on adapting controllers.py with drivers for nested/baremetal to support both the current workflow and the ipvlan/macvlan based one that lmdaly's PoC showed | 14:29 |
| apuimedo | the idea is to have also a python path that you can configure in kuryr.conf | 14:30 |
| apuimedo | that will determine if you use neutron ports directly, neutron trunk/subports, neutron allowed address pairs | 14:30 |
| apuimedo | or third party implementations | 14:30 |
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| apuimedo | the interface for these implementationc will probably be reduced and taken from kuryr-libnetwork | 14:31 |
| apuimedo | and when we add it to kuryr-kubernetes we can refactor as necessary and move it to kuryr-lib | 14:31 |
| apuimedo | questions? | 14:31 |
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| ivc_ | apuimedo a suggestion for drivers | 14:32 |
| ivc_ | maybe we can follow os-vif path and have drivers in separate packages from main kuryr | 14:32 |
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| ivc_ | like in https://github.com/openstack/os-vif they have os_vif pkg and vif_plug_* packages | 14:33 |
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| apuimedo | ivc_: good point, when the time comes in the plan above to move it to kuryr-lib, we can instead put it in a separate package | 14:33 |
| apuimedo | let's not forget that option and bring it to the mailing list when the time comes | 14:33 |
| ivc_ | it can still be in kuryr-lib repo though | 14:34 |
| apuimedo | ah, got it | 14:34 |
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| apuimedo | the problem is that it is complicated, for infra, to generate different distributable python packages from a single repo | 14:35 |
| apuimedo | well, anyway, let's take that to the ml in a little while | 14:35 |
| apuimedo | #topic kuryr-kubernetes | 14:35 |
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| apuimedo | #info ivc's got k8s/neutron client patch approved https://review.openstack.org/#/c/376042/ | 14:37 |
| apuimedo | hopefully it will be merged soon | 14:37 |
| apuimedo | we will be removing the the python3 only parts from the repo | 14:37 |
| apuimedo | #info we'll have kuryr-kubernetes py2 and py3 compatible | 14:37 |
| ivc_ | i'm hoping to lift 'wip's from (some of) my other patches this week | 14:38 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: vikasc: (whoever wants to join) I'd like to propose a video meeting on Wednesday to discuss the effort | 14:38 |
| ivc_ | atm at port/pod processing integration with os-vif models and event pipeline cleanup | 14:39 |
| ivc_ | apuimedo sure | 14:39 |
| apuimedo | thanks | 14:39 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, sure | 14:39 |
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| apuimedo | I'll send an invitation | 14:39 |
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| apuimedo | we have to keep in mind to try to add fullstack tests as soon as possible, i.e., as soon as we have a patch that gets ports bound, we should have the fullstack test that checks that the ports are bound and ping works | 14:40 |
| ivc_ | apuimedo are you working on cni driver or should i take care of it? | 14:41 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: I'm working on the kuryr-lib part of it | 14:41 |
| apuimedo | you should import parts of it for kuryr-kubernetes if it needs to talk to the local watcher | 14:41 |
| apuimedo | as I seem to recall you proposed | 14:41 |
| ivc_ | yup | 14:42 |
| ivc_ | is the kuryr-lib part under review? | 14:42 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: no, I'll try to submit tomorrow | 14:43 |
| ivc_ | ah ok. np | 14:43 |
| apuimedo | sorry about the delay | 14:43 |
| apuimedo | #action apuimedo to send kuryr-lib cni | 14:44 |
| apuimedo | anything else? | 14:44 |
| ivc_ | while we are at it, maybe we can use os-vif models in kuryr-lib binding drivers | 14:44 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: do we have a blueprint for that? | 14:45 |
| ivc_ | nope | 14:45 |
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| apuimedo | we should do that | 14:45 |
| apuimedo | and then I guess, since it will be an internal detail, we'll put that after cni | 14:45 |
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| ivc_ | its really just a drop-in replacement for neutron-client dict for port/subnet | 14:45 |
| apuimedo | cni will expect ovs-vif ovo | 14:45 |
| apuimedo | and later we can upgrade kuryr-lib bindings | 14:46 |
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| apuimedo | #topic general | 14:46 |
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| hongbin | apuimedo: i have a comment for the k8s client implementation | 14:46 |
| apuimedo | hongbin: I just saw it on the phone | 14:46 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 14:46 |
| hongbin | :) | 14:46 |
| apuimedo | hongbin: I think ivc_'s not using python-k8s-client was because it lacks watching support | 14:47 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: is that right? | 14:47 |
| ivc_ | yes | 14:47 |
| hongbin | i see | 14:47 |
| hongbin | this is a good suggestion for dims | 14:47 |
| apuimedo | oh, it seems there is something for watch there https://github.com/openstack/python-k8sclient/search?utf8=✓&q=watch | 14:48 |
| ivc_ | it does not work :) | 14:48 |
| dims | apuimedo : unless there's a test, there is no guarantee that it works | 14:48 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 14:48 |
| ivc_ | api is there as it is generated from swagger but the RESTClient does not support it | 14:48 |
| dims | right | 14:49 |
| ivc_ | RESTClient is blocking and expects to http GET the result as a whole | 14:49 |
| apuimedo | alright then. let's first get this with the current approach and let's try to work with dims on getting it working on openstack/python-k8sclient | 14:49 |
| ivc_ | but we need a streaming result | 14:49 |
| apuimedo | yeah | 14:50 |
| * apuimedo not a big friend of code generation, but let's see what we can do | 14:50 | |
| apuimedo | any other topic? | 14:51 |
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| apuimedo | #action apuimedo to update about the proposed work sessions (the fish bowl will be for the joint magnum/kuryr) | 14:52 |
| lmdaly | where will the driver features be in controllers? They will each have a create_or_update_port function? | 14:52 |
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| lmdaly | or total change to controllers as it is now? | 14:52 |
| apuimedo | lmdaly: they will be in kuryr_libnetwork/drivers/ | 14:52 |
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| apuimedo | and controllers will be slimmed down a bit | 14:53 |
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| apuimedo | and load the configured driver | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | lmdaly: unfortunately I didn't think about all the names of the interface yet | 14:53 |
| lmdaly | okay | 14:54 |
| apuimedo | probably quite limited to ports at the start | 14:55 |
| apuimedo | and we can add networks if anybody shows a use case for that | 14:55 |
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| lmdaly | are you planning to pass the nested port for binding from the drivers? | 14:55 |
| lmdaly | ah okay ports for now | 14:56 |
| apuimedo | lmdaly: what about I start with the current driver and you add the one for ipvlan ? | 14:56 |
| lmdaly | apuimedo, sounds good | 14:57 |
| apuimedo | cool | 14:57 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 14:57 |
| apuimedo | thanks lmdaly | 14:57 |
| lmdaly | you have any estimation on when you will have the current driver done? | 14:57 |
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| apuimedo | I'm counting with wednesday | 14:58 |
| lmdaly | just for reference | 14:58 |
| lmdaly | okay cool, thanks :) | 14:58 |
| apuimedo | good | 14:58 |
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| apuimedo | alright, time to close the meeting. Today we'll be on time for a change! | 14:58 |
| apuimedo | thank you all for joining | 14:58 |
| apuimedo | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 3 14:59:02 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-10-03-14.00.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-10-03-14.00.txt | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-10-03-14.00.log.html | 14:59 |
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| syed_ | o/ | 15:00 |
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| jimbaker | #startmeeting craton | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 3 15:00:19 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jimbaker. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'craton' | 15:00 |
| syed_ | Hi Everyone | 15:00 |
| jimbaker | #topic roll call | 15:00 |
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| jimbaker | syed_, hi | 15:00 |
| jovon | hello | 15:01 |
| sigmavirus | o/ | 15:01 |
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| jimbaker | hope everyone had a great weekend! | 15:01 |
| syed_ | Hey sigmavirus | 15:01 |
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| jovon | indeed! you jimbaker ? | 15:02 |
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| jimbaker | jovon, it was very nice. went mountain biking with my son on saturday; we went orienteering together on sunday | 15:02 |
| jovon | sounds excellent :) | 15:02 |
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| jimbaker | sulo, hi | 15:03 |
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| jimbaker | ok, i think it's time for us to get going here. we will look at core stuff later in today's meeting | 15:05 |
| jimbaker | but all client people are here | 15:05 |
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| jimbaker | #topic development | 15:05 |
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| jimbaker | sigmavirus, anything to note on client work for this week? | 15:06 |
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| chrisspencer | o/ | 15:06 |
| jimbaker | chrisspencer, hey, good to see you | 15:07 |
| sigmavirus | I have been researching how to avoid a lot of the trouble syed_'s been having getting Keystone identity to work with craton/cratonclient | 15:07 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, +1 | 15:07 |
| syed_ | +2 | 15:07 |
| sigmavirus | I have an idea, but I want to test it locally before sending syed_ on a wild goose chase | 15:07 |
| sigmavirus | Also, spurred by teh client code, I'm working on simplifying our API so we arent' passing project_id more than once in a given request | 15:08 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, great stuff | 15:08 |
| jimbaker | anything you need from us in this work? | 15:09 |
| * sigmavirus shrugs | 15:09 | |
| sigmavirus | As usual though, I'm being pulled in several directions | 15:09 |
| jimbaker | besides a pony? | 15:09 |
| sigmavirus | Trying to focus on craton | 15:09 |
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| sigmavirus | 'Tis my own fault as usual as well | 15:10 |
| sigmavirus | :) | 15:10 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, i understand. hopefully we can keep that focus :) | 15:10 |
| * sigmavirus is working on i | 15:10 | |
| jimbaker | syed_, any updates on docker and functional testing? | 15:11 |
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| syed_ | i have been working over the keystone thing to get it working for the horizon folks | 15:12 |
| syed_ | once that is completed i will shift more towards docker functional testing, i have been looking into it but partially | 15:12 |
| jimbaker | syed_, understood, just wanted to see where that stood | 15:13 |
| syed_ | apart from this i have been looking into a bug , saying updating resources does not work currently, so have been fixing that up, will be able to upload soon | 15:13 |
| jimbaker | let's work together this week on functional testing, especially given the research sigmavirus is doing | 15:13 |
| syed_ | i believe that is an important aspect | 15:13 |
| syed_ | sounds good to me | 15:14 |
| syed_ | once we are able to solve the keystone authentication craton/cratonclient, it will be really helpful for the horizon folks for integrating things and doing their part .. | 15:14 |
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| syed_ | i have been reading into how different openstack projects are doing that. I hope soon we will be able to get it working. | 15:15 |
| jimbaker | syed_, cool. glad you have had a chance to look at the api. and keystone support is the most important given it's blocking lcastell and team | 15:15 |
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| syed_ | Agreed jim. | 15:15 |
| syed_ | hopefully sigma virus and i will be able to get this going soon | 15:16 |
| jimbaker | syed_, also this will be important for rbac once we get there | 15:16 |
| lcastell | \o/ | 15:16 |
| jimbaker | i believe mdorman was asking me about rbac at the talk i gave last tuesday in boulder | 15:16 |
| jimbaker | (technically broomfield, colorado) | 15:16 |
| syed_ | Sounds good | 15:17 |
| jimbaker | lcastell, good to see you. i should have put you in that reminder list | 15:17 |
| mdorman | not a show stopper for us, but was just curious around the is_root and is_admin attributes, and possibility of a single user having access to multiple projects. | 15:17 |
| jimbaker | of people to ping pre meetings | 15:17 |
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| jimbaker | mdorman, i expect us to provide that support, post barcelona. it will be a good thing to discuss in barcelona in fact | 15:18 |
| lcastell | np jimbaker :) | 15:18 |
| mdorman | cool | 15:19 |
| jimbaker | mdorman, the is_root and is_admin attributes really need to be expanded into roles; and specific scope of those roles that | 15:20 |
| jimbaker | is governed by inventory | 15:20 |
| jimbaker | from project on down | 15:21 |
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| mdorman | makes sense. | 15:21 |
| jimbaker | jovon, any updates for this week? | 15:22 |
| jovon | nothing interesting more bug fixes regarding duplicate network insertion errors | 15:23 |
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| jimbaker | jovon, sure, which gets into the fact i need to finalize the patch for the api refactoring so you can get that dupe bug properly fixed with minimal fuss | 15:23 |
| jovon | Bug #1623100 | 15:23 |
| openstack | bug 1623100 in craton "Duplicate insertion of network objects with the same name is allowed by API server" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1623100 - Assigned to Jovon McCloud (jovon-mccloud) | 15:23 |
| jimbaker | jovon, have you tried using https://review.openstack.org/#/c/378977/ as a base there? | 15:24 |
| jimbaker | still under review of course, but simplifies the required error handling | 15:24 |
| jovon | i have not currently | 15:24 |
| jimbaker | jovon, i would recommend doing so, since it should mean just a few lines to implement for the patch, plus tests | 15:25 |
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| jovon | i'll investigate this more closely directly following this meeting | 15:27 |
| jimbaker | anyway, i will push up a new change set later this morning that will hopefully sidestep the other stuff we were discussing about import best practices | 15:27 |
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| jimbaker | jovon, sounds good. make sure to reach out to me so we can look at the relevant model code | 15:28 |
| jimbaker | together | 15:28 |
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| jovon | ok. thanks jimbaker | 15:29 |
| jimbaker | ambiguous. this is not model.py :) but the existing error handling code in dbapi that is closest to what you need to do | 15:29 |
| jimbaker | sulo, are you around? | 15:30 |
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| sulo | o/, hello | 15:30 |
| jimbaker | so as i mention, my immediate priority is to revise that patch ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/378977/) | 15:30 |
| jimbaker | by removing all controversial aspects ;) | 15:30 |
| sulo | ok, sounds good | 15:31 |
| jimbaker | another time for that | 15:31 |
| jimbaker | sulo, what will be working on this week? | 15:31 |
| jimbaker | will *you* | 15:32 |
| sulo | i have mostly pending changes for labels support, and fxing some stuff for /data enpoint | 15:32 |
| sulo | then ansible-endpoint | 15:32 |
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| jimbaker | sulo, cool, so all important stuff | 15:32 |
| jimbaker | syed_, you are still planning on working on the corresponding variables support in the client, with sigmavirus ? | 15:33 |
| sulo | yeah that should givive us a complet set for barcelona | 15:33 |
| jimbaker | right, in terms of base inventory support | 15:34 |
| sulo | thre are quite a lot of bugs that needs to be sorted as well | 15:34 |
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| syed_ | yes that is very important | 15:34 |
| jimbaker | so with sulo's suggestion re taskflow notifications vs modifying the tf persistence backend, i started looking into that | 15:35 |
| syed_ | Once these things i have are done my next target will be that, in the meanwhile i will keep working in bits and pieces on that so once i am done with the things on my plate, we can then shift our focus towards variables support | 15:35 |
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| jimbaker | syed_, np. and don't worry about this backlog. it would be a good thing for you to focus on, but others can pick up the var support as it makes sense | 15:36 |
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| jimbaker | sulo, so notifications look good, and certainly a lot easier | 15:37 |
| sulo | awesome | 15:37 |
| syed_ | yes sounds good | 15:38 |
| jimbaker | so my plan is simple: to use a standard naming convention for task names; and then update our job repr. so i'm going to take ownership of what sulo did in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355938/ | 15:38 |
| sulo | ok | 15:39 |
| jimbaker | after the immediate priority of getting that api stuff fixed up, that's my priority for this week | 15:39 |
| jimbaker | (about time :) | 15:39 |
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| jimbaker | sulo, basically i set up some toy examples of doing such notifications with the two level graphs we have discussed, and it's just a reasonable way to do it | 15:40 |
| jimbaker | so high confidence here | 15:40 |
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| jimbaker | team, any other dev tasks we should be aware of? | 15:41 |
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| jimbaker | ok, well we can discuss further on #craton and tomorrow's client/ecosystem dev call | 15:42 |
| jimbaker | #topic community | 15:43 |
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| jimbaker | sigmavirus, so we are just waiting on someone to workflow https://review.openstack.org/#/c/375680/ ? | 15:43 |
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| sigmavirus | jimbaker: +2 and +W, yes | 15:44 |
| jimbaker | i guess that will just take its usual time | 15:44 |
| jimbaker | will be useful for the community going forward | 15:44 |
| jimbaker | so as i alluded to earlier, i gave a talk at the colorado openstack meetup last tuesday on craton | 15:45 |
| jimbaker | it seemed to be well received; and it gave me an opportunity to think about what sulo, sarob, and i will discuss in barcelona | 15:46 |
| jimbaker | one thing i will definitely have to do: make the craton specific part a lot more concise | 15:46 |
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| jimbaker | the other thing we will want to do in advance of barcelona is fully triage our bugs; finalize outstanding blueprints; and especially consider how to involve more people in what we are doing | 15:48 |
| jimbaker | so lots of work to do between now and oct 25 | 15:48 |
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| jimbaker | #topic questions/wrapup | 15:49 |
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| jimbaker | anything else? we have a lot to do, and i need to unblock sulo | 15:49 |
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| jimbaker | ok, i think silence here is consent to end today's meeting | 15:51 |
| jimbaker | further discussion over at #craton | 15:51 |
| jimbaker | #endmeeting | 15:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 3 15:51:43 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/craton/2016/craton.2016-10-03-15.00.html | 15:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/craton/2016/craton.2016-10-03-15.00.txt | 15:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/craton/2016/craton.2016-10-03-15.00.log.html | 15:51 |
| syed_ | triaging bugs sounds really cool | 15:52 |
| sigmavirus | syed_: it is! | 15:53 |
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| Sukhdev | Hi Folks time for Ironic-neutron meeting | 16:00 |
| Sukhdev | #startmeeting ironic_neutron | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 3 16:01:19 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic_neutron' | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | who do we have here for this meeting? | 16:01 |
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| hshiina | o/ | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron#Meeting_October_3.2C_2016 | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | I will move slow to give others time to join in | 16:03 |
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| Sukhdev | devananda : did you have a chance to review the SG patch? | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts jroll : are you around? | 16:04 |
| sambetts | Hi | 16:04 |
| jroll | \o | 16:04 |
| devananda | Sukhdev: I have not, sorry | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | Other than Ocata is open for patch submittal, I do not have any other annoncement | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev | two week vacation makes you forget everything :-) | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev | you guys have anything to share with the team? | 16:06 |
| * jroll has none | 16:06 | |
| sambetts | nothing from me, /me is largly focused on networking-cisco at the moment with releases coming up | 16:07 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : same here - working on some customers deliveries | 16:07 |
| Sukhdev | moving on - | 16:07 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Security Groups | 16:07 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361451 | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev | I am waiting for the reviews for this patch - I think this is good to go | 16:08 |
| * jroll rechecks, gate is fixed now | 16:08 | |
| Sukhdev | unless of course some issues are found during reviews | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev | jroll : other than this patch, is there anything else expected for SG ? | 16:09 |
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| jroll | Sukhdev: docs? | 16:10 |
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| Sukhdev | jroll: good point - I can get on it as well. I can push a patch to address it | 16:11 |
| jroll | thanks | 16:11 |
| Sukhdev | #action: Sukhdev to push a patch for SG documentation | 16:11 |
| Sukhdev | anything else on this topic? | 16:11 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Port Groups | 16:12 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: left some comments on the release note | 16:12 |
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| Sukhdev | jroll : thanks - will review and respond | 16:12 |
| jroll | thanks | 16:13 |
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| Sukhdev | Port Groups patches are also looking good | 16:13 |
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| Sukhdev | This requires three way coordination to complete the feature - | 16:13 |
| Sukhdev | 1) the patches listed on the wiki to deal with the ironic conductor side | 16:14 |
| Sukhdev | 2) the bond interface related config | 16:14 |
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| Sukhdev | 3) Nova side plumbing | 16:14 |
| Sukhdev | And, of course 4) ML2 drivers | 16:14 |
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| Sukhdev | 4) is really vendor specific stuff and can be ignored | 16:15 |
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| Sukhdev | do you agree? | 16:15 |
| sambetts | something that I mentioned in the last meeting, is that I think the attach/detach interface logic should potentially become a prerequist to some of the port groups patches on the nova side | 16:16 |
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| Sukhdev | sambetts : I missed that part of the meeting - sorry | 16:17 |
| sambetts | the main reason for it was I didn't want for us to merge logic we then remove a week later | 16:18 |
| Sukhdev | can you elaborate what do you mean by attach/detach interface? | 16:18 |
| jroll | sambetts: fwiw, I could still go either way on that | 16:18 |
| sambetts | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1582188 | 16:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1582188 in Ironic "[RFE] Add interface attach API" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Sam Betts (sambetts) | 16:18 |
| sambetts | Sukhdev: ^ | 16:19 |
| sambetts | other links are in the agenda too | 16:19 |
| sambetts | basically it provides an API in Ironic to handle the vif to pif mapping instead of doing it in Nova | 16:19 |
| sambetts | which is were we'll be adding code to handle the vif_port_id for the portgroups | 16:20 |
| Sukhdev | ah I see - | 16:21 |
| Sukhdev | is this necessary to do via this interface? I thought there was a port-group create API, which deals with the associating individual ports to the port-group | 16:22 |
| Sukhdev | and then that is used to populate the local_link_information (?) | 16:22 |
| sambetts | Sukhdev: its not the ports to the portgroups, its the vifs to the portgroups | 16:22 |
| sambetts | neutron ports to portgroups | 16:22 |
| jroll | sambetts: so both patches are done, it's just a matter of which we try to rebase | 16:23 |
| jroll | right? | 16:23 |
| jroll | and given we haven't even approved the spec for the attach API I think we should just get the portgroups in and then focus on that | 16:24 |
| jroll | unless there's back compat concerns with that | 16:24 |
| sambetts | makes sense | 16:24 |
| Sukhdev | jroll +1 | 16:24 |
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| sambetts | potentially more issues with having to support checking vif_port_id in extra on portgroup update but I can handle that | 16:25 |
| jroll | cool | 16:26 |
| jroll | thank you :D | 16:26 |
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| Sukhdev | anything else on this? | 16:26 |
| sambetts | jroll: have you had a chance to get your cloud-init code public? | 16:27 |
| jroll | sambetts:I have not, all the crazy last week | 16:27 |
| jroll | sorry, I will bug people now | 16:27 |
| sambetts | awesome, if we can use that as a base that should reduce the thought processing required to get the network config intergrated over there | 16:28 |
| jroll | ya | 16:28 |
| sambetts | do you know what their release process is? | 16:28 |
| sambetts | I have wondered how quick it would be that prebuilt images would pick up a change merged into cloud-init | 16:28 |
| jroll | I think they're pretty open to releasing quickly | 16:29 |
| jroll | the bigger question is about packaging | 16:29 |
| sambetts | ++ | 16:29 |
| sambetts | do we have any way to CI the portgroups too? | 16:30 |
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| jroll | someone (either vdrok or vasyl) was looking into bonding support in cirros | 16:30 |
| jroll | I don't think it's done yet | 16:30 |
| jroll | s/yet/today/ | 16:30 |
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| sambetts | I wasn't sure if OVS had LACP or no for the simulated VMs, but if it does that is awesome | 16:31 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts: If I were to speculate, I would say yes - as you can use port-groups with VMs | 16:32 |
| sambetts | sweet :D | 16:32 |
| jroll | sambetts: oh yeah, we have the support to do it in the infra stuff, I think | 16:33 |
| jroll | just not in the guest | 16:33 |
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| sambetts | excellent :) I think if I remember correctly the only problem on the Cirros side is the kernel module not being loaded, so it looks like we're well on the way to getting that working | 16:34 |
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| jroll | sambetts: oh! I thought it wasn't there at all. might be thinking of something else though :) | 16:35 |
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| jroll | ok shall we continue? | 16:37 |
| Sukhdev | yes - | 16:37 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : can you check the wiki to ensure I have listed all the relevant patches for port-groups? | 16:37 |
| sambetts | Sukhdev: ++ | 16:37 |
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| sambetts | sure :) | 16:37 |
| Sukhdev | #topic : Vlan Aware severs | 16:38 |
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| Sukhdev | I was going to check the status of vlan aware vms on the neutron side - but, my vacation derailed it - | 16:38 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : do you know if the framework made it in the newton release? | 16:39 |
| sambetts | Nothing much to add here, it seems like the API etc all merged on the neutron side, I was waiting for the doc patches to land to know everything | 16:39 |
| sambetts | I need to go and dig it all up again | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : sounds good - now we have a framework to work with | 16:41 |
| sambetts | Yup :) the patches all need a bit of rework | 16:41 |
| sambetts | and the spec still needs further review | 16:42 |
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| Sukhdev | it will be fun to have port-groups working with vlan aware servers :-):-) | 16:42 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : I have listed the spec on the wiki - can you add the patches as well? | 16:42 |
| sambetts | Yup will add them in once I've updated them | 16:43 |
| Sukhdev | cool | 16:43 |
| Sukhdev | anything else on this? | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Open Discussion | 16:44 |
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| Sukhdev | looks like we will have hands full this release cycle with networking stuff as well | 16:44 |
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| sambetts | ++ | 16:45 |
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| Sukhdev | anybody has anything to ask/share with the team? | 16:46 |
| sambetts | Nothing from me as far as I can remember | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev | Silence is golden - I will take it as No | 16:47 |
| Sukhdev | We are done folks - thanks for attending | 16:47 |
| sambetts | thanks Sukhdev # | 16:47 |
| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 16:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 3 16:47:39 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-10-03-16.01.html | 16:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-10-03-16.01.txt | 16:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-10-03-16.01.log.html | 16:47 |
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| gnuoy | \o | 17:00 |
| thedac | o/ | 17:01 |
| gnuoy | tinwood beisner icey cargonza wolsen jamespage any other usual suspects coming along today? | 17:01 |
| tinwood | o/ | 17:01 |
| cargonza | o/ | 17:01 |
| jamespage | o/ | 17:01 |
| gnuoy | #startmeeting charms | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 3 17:01:51 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gnuoy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'charms' | 17:01 |
| gnuoy | #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review ACTION points from previous meeting (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:02 | |
| icey | o/ | 17:02 |
| gnuoy | ACTION: gnuoy update charm guide with refactored charms_openstack bits | 17:02 |
| gnuoy | inprogess, expect a pull request rsn | 17:02 |
| gnuoy | ACTION: jamespage review current newton specs against plan | 17:02 |
| cholcombe | o/ | 17:02 |
| jamespage | yeah still tod | 17:02 |
| beisner | o/. | 17:02 |
| gnuoy | ack | 17:02 |
| jamespage | we have quite alot of charm stuff done, but we're missing mojo specs etc... | 17:02 |
| gnuoy | ACTION: gnuoy to make list of chairs and schedule | 17:02 |
| gnuoy | Done! | 17:02 |
| gnuoy | ACTION: jamespage to identity alternate week slot and get scheduled | 17:03 |
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| beisner | i still owe the charm-guide a test section update | 17:03 |
| * jamespage is doing badly this week | 17:03 | |
| jamespage | apologies | 17:03 |
| gnuoy | np | 17:03 |
| gnuoy | #topic State of Development for next Charm Release | 17:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "State of Development for next Charm Release (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:04 | |
| gnuoy | we're in the deep freeze | 17:04 |
| gnuoy | We have a fix for the mojo newton flavor bug up for review | 17:04 |
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| beisner | i'll be focusing on the update-amulet-defs batch: decided to take on the pxc-instead-of-mysql in that so we're actually in control of those entirely. | 17:05 |
| gnuoy | I'm stepping back from the mojo/tempest integration for the moment because I can't make tempest run in python2.7 mode and some tests seem to be bust on python 3 | 17:05 |
| beisner | thx for doing that gnuoy | 17:05 |
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| beisner | the flavor thing and the spike on the tempest charm. i'd say, let's proceed with our tempest from a venv approach and continue to improve the tempest charm after 16.10. | 17:06 |
| gnuoy | oh, and jamespage has some late newton fixes from ceilometer and aodh I believe | 17:06 |
| gnuoy | beisner, +1 | 17:06 |
| jamespage | I do | 17:06 |
| gnuoy | cholcombe, icey how are things from a storage pov? | 17:06 |
| icey | testing is slow but ongoing | 17:07 |
| gnuoy | ack | 17:07 |
| cholcombe | gnuoy, we've got to squash a juju storage bug that popped up on aws | 17:07 |
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| cholcombe | among other things | 17:07 |
| beisner | cholcombe, icey ceph-mon got love on this, but ceph needs love too: https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+source/ceph/+bug/1628322 | 17:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1628322 in ceph (Juju Charms Collection) "charm upgrade from 16.07 to master fails" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Chris MacNaughton (chris.macnaughton) | 17:07 |
| gnuoy | aws is dead to me :) | 17:07 |
| icey | beisner: ack | 17:07 |
| beisner | i think that should be high prio | 17:07 |
| cholcombe | beisner, ceph charm should get equal love because the upgrade code is moved to a central lib now | 17:08 |
| icey | cholcombe: that one is a new hook though | 17:08 |
| beisner | cholcombe, does it just need a resync? | 17:08 |
| beisner | i confirmed that our charm upgrade mojo spec is still failing over the weekend | 17:08 |
| cholcombe | ok | 17:08 |
| icey | beisner: just with the ceph charm or with ceph-mon as well? | 17:08 |
| beisner | so since it bails on ceph failing early, we don't have a good view of the charm upgradability of the other charms | 17:08 |
| beisner | the spec only uses ceph | 17:09 |
| gnuoy | Anyone got anymore zOMG 16.10 blockers? | 17:09 |
| thedac | should ceph-osd be swapped in for ceph in the spec? | 17:09 |
| cholcombe | thedac, ideally yes | 17:09 |
| beisner | well, we have to be careful there. in my mind, until there is an upgrade story of some sort for ceph --> ceph-mon, we get to test both | 17:10 |
| icey | I agree with beisner | 17:10 |
| icey | ideally, I'd like to see some mojo specs with both | 17:10 |
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| cholcombe | ok | 17:11 |
| gnuoy | Any actions I should minute from the above? | 17:11 |
| beisner | actually re: charm upgrades, idea i'm kicking around: similar to our charm-single deploy test, we could have a new runner that does a single charm upgrade test. lightweight, cheap, and run it daily against master throughout each cycle so we have earlier notice. | 17:11 |
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| gnuoy | beisner, sounds good | 17:11 |
| beisner | action me on that if it's not a crazy idea :-) | 17:11 |
| gnuoy | beisner, maybe with a db in there so we catch schema migrations failures ? | 17:11 |
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| beisner | yep, some such. worth discussing a bit before taking it on. | 17:12 |
| gnuoy | #action beisner regular upgrade tests | 17:12 |
| gnuoy | ok, anymore zOMG bugs? | 17:12 |
| beisner | so, to be clear, we now have the charm upgrade tests running weekly | 17:12 |
| beisner | as of last week :-) | 17:12 |
| gnuoy | tip top | 17:13 |
| beisner | but it's the full deploy thingy | 17:13 |
| cholcombe | excellent | 17:13 |
| gnuoy | #topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/372548 | 17:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "https://review.openstack.org/#/c/372548 (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:13 | |
| beisner | any news on https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+source/ceph-osd/+bug/1604501 ? | 17:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1604501 in ceph-osd (Juju Charms Collection) "ceph-osd fails to initialize when encrypt is enabled" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Chris Holcombe (xfactor973) | 17:13 |
| gnuoy | jamespage, yours ^ ? | 17:13 |
| jamespage | gnuoy, really? | 17:14 |
| beisner | also re: 16.10 release, barbican-softhsm has a new problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1629624 | 17:14 |
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| openstack | Launchpad bug 1629624 in OpenStack Barbican SoftHSM Charm "amulet test fails with barbican-softhsm blocking on 'Charm installed and token store configured'" [Undecided,New] | 17:14 |
| gnuoy | jamespage, did you not add it to the agenda? | 17:14 |
| jamespage | gnuoy, maybe two weeks ago? | 17:14 |
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| gnuoy | jamespage, argh, copy/pasta aerror from previous | 17:14 |
| gnuoy | yep | 17:14 |
| gnuoy | moving on... | 17:14 |
| gnuoy | #topic High Priority Bugs | 17:15 |
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| gnuoy | I think we;ve covered that tbh | 17:15 |
| gnuoy | #topic Openstack Events | 17:15 |
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| beisner | can we touch on the 2 i just pasted? ceph encryption and softhsm charm forever-blocked | 17:15 |
| beisner | sorry, laggy over here | 17:15 |
| gnuoy | beisner, sure | 17:15 |
| beisner | https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+source/ceph-osd/+bug/1604501 is milestoned 16.10 | 17:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1604501 in ceph-osd (Juju Charms Collection) "ceph-osd fails to initialize when encrypt is enabled" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Chris Holcombe (xfactor973) | 17:16 |
| gnuoy | beisner, tinwood isn't here but I'll prod him tomorrow on the barbican hsm one | 17:16 |
| tinwood | tinwood is here | 17:16 |
| tinwood | :) | 17:16 |
| gnuoy | tinwood, no he isn't | 17:16 |
| tinwood | I'll take the softhsm one | 17:17 |
| gnuoy | ta | 17:17 |
| beisner | hi tinwood :-) upon a fresh rebuild, barbican-softhsm's amulet test shows it staying blocked | 17:17 |
| beisner | thx tinwood | 17:17 |
| gnuoy | #action tinwood Bug #1629624 | 17:17 |
| openstack | bug 1629624 in OpenStack Barbican SoftHSM Charm "amulet test fails with barbican-softhsm blocking on 'Charm installed and token store configured'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1629624 | 17:17 |
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| gnuoy | I think the plan was to fix Bug #1604501 for 16.10 wan't it? | 17:18 |
| openstack | bug 1604501 in ceph-osd (Juju Charms Collection) "ceph-osd fails to initialize when encrypt is enabled" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1604501 - Assigned to Chris Holcombe (xfactor973) | 17:18 |
| gnuoy | or am I being naive ? | 17:18 |
| beisner | that is what i understand re: discussion with cholcombe jamespage in daily last wk | 17:18 |
| jamespage | yes | 17:19 |
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| gnuoy | cholcombe, are you actively working on that one ? | 17:19 |
| cholcombe | gnuoy, i believe icey is | 17:20 |
| gnuoy | kk | 17:20 |
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| icey | cholcombe: gnuoy there are 2 upstream bugs blocking on that one -_- | 17:20 |
| gnuoy | ah, oh | 17:20 |
| cholcombe | yeah it's kind of a mess | 17:21 |
| gnuoy | not much we can do then I guess | 17:21 |
| cargonza | icey, what are the bug Id please? | 17:21 |
| gnuoy | Since we're low on time lets move on while icey goes on a bug id hunt | 17:22 |
| cargonza | kk | 17:22 |
| gnuoy | On the subject of Openstack Events we have a bunch of charm schools at ods among other things | 17:23 |
| icey | https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/10382 and http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/17421 cargonza gnuoy | 17:23 |
| gnuoy | icey, ta | 17:23 |
| gnuoy | Monday day and Wednesday afternoon | 17:23 |
| gnuoy | I believe tickets are going fast so if anyone wnats to attend theres probably a url somewhere | 17:24 |
| cholcombe | i can dial in remote for them | 17:24 |
| gnuoy | cargonza, do you have the url for registration? | 17:24 |
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| thedac | for general ODS registration https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/ | 17:25 |
| cargonza | that's it ^^ | 17:25 |
| gnuoy | ta | 17:25 |
| cargonza | please get it done asap to avoid any issues. | 17:25 |
| gnuoy | Anymore events before we move onto fish bowls? | 17:26 |
| gnuoy | jamespage, happy with https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-charm-summit-planning ? | 17:26 |
| jamespage | I think so | 17:26 |
| gnuoy | kk | 17:26 |
| jamespage | I have an action to get stuff plugged into the schedule from ttx - I'll get that done this week | 17:27 |
| gnuoy | kk | 17:27 |
| gnuoy | #topic docstrings and following the coding guidelines | 17:27 |
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| gnuoy | tinwood, you're up ^ | 17:27 |
| tinwood | ah, yes. | 17:27 |
| * gnuoy feels this is aimed my way :-( | 17:27 | |
| * beisner ducks | 17:27 | |
| tinwood | I just wanted to remind folk and that 'significant' functions in python ought to have docstrings, and comments in general. | 17:28 |
| thedac | Everyone but tinwood take a big step forward | 17:28 |
| tinwood | I think we are sliding a little in that. | 17:28 |
| tinwood | :) | 17:28 |
| gnuoy | agreed | 17:28 |
| tinwood | It really does help when trying to understand what's going on in a charm. | 17:28 |
| thedac | +1 | 17:28 |
| tinwood | And remember to do a little code gardening if you get the chance. | 17:29 |
| gnuoy | tinwood, I'm guilty of "non-of-the-other-functions-have-them-so-meh" and that is bad and I shall punish myself and disist | 17:29 |
| tinwood | :) | 17:29 |
| tinwood | that's the spirit. | 17:29 |
| beisner | 'comments are lies waiting to happen' ;-) no but really, it's just as important to update docstrings and stuff as new things land. | 17:29 |
| gnuoy | thanks for the timely reminder tinwood | 17:29 |
| gnuoy | #topic Open Discussion | 17:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:30 | |
| gnuoy | tinwood, you're up for chair next week looking at the rota. Obv.s arranage a sway if you can't make it | 17:30 |
| gnuoy | s/sway/swap/ | 17:30 |
| tinwood | no that's good. | 17:30 |
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| gnuoy | anymore to openly discuss? | 17:31 |
| tinwood | not from ne. | 17:31 |
| gnuoy | Next meeting 17th October, same time, same place, chair is tinwood | 17:31 |
| tinwood | me | 17:31 |
| gnuoy | #endmeeting | 17:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:31 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 3 17:31:44 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2016/charms.2016-10-03-17.01.html | 17:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2016/charms.2016-10-03-17.01.txt | 17:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2016/charms.2016-10-03-17.01.log.html | 17:31 |
| tinwood | thanks gnuoy | 17:31 |
| thedac | thanks, gnuoy | 17:32 |
| gnuoy | np | 17:32 |
| icey | thanks gnuoy | 17:32 |
| jamespage | ta gnuoy | 17:35 |
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