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oanson | #startmeeting Dragonflow | 09:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 19 09:00:38 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oanson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
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openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'dragonflow' | 09:00 |
oanson | All right. Who is here for the meeting? | 09:00 |
xiaohhui | hi | 09:00 |
lihi | o/ | 09:01 |
hujie | Hi | 09:01 |
oanson | nick-ma, are you here? | 09:01 |
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oanson | It looks like I forgot to set up an agenda, so we'll follow last week's, and I'll do better next time :) | 09:02 |
oanson | #topic Roadmap | 09:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Roadmap (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:02 | |
oanson | The good news is that ML2 fullstack tests are working | 09:02 |
oanson | And it looks like both ML2 and core plugin fullstack tests are stable | 09:02 |
xiaohhui | great | 09:02 |
oanson | That includes security groups. | 09:03 |
oanson | I think this is very good news. Thanks everyone for a great effort in this department. | 09:03 |
xiaohhui | oanson: have you insert some ml2 specific options for ml2 fullstack test? | 09:03 |
oanson | xiaohhui, yes, the fullstack-ml2 uses the mechanism driver + ML2 | 09:04 |
oanson | But nothing beyond that. | 09:04 |
oanson | Is there something you think should be there? | 09:04 |
xiaohhui | I am checking the failed fullstack in ml2 for vlan network, I wonder where did the network_vlan_ranges set? | 09:05 |
xiaohhui | It looks like by default it will be empty | 09:05 |
oanson | IIRC (I looked into it a while back) it's a Neutron configuration. We may need to set it in plugin.sh, or understand what's Neutron's defaults. | 09:05 |
xiaohhui | neutron's default is an empty list... | 09:06 |
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xiaohhui | https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/type_vlan.py#L35 | 09:07 |
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hujie | what about in /etc/neutron/plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini? | 09:07 |
oanson | Same for flat networks: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/type_flat.py#L33 | 09:07 |
oanson | Looks like '*' means any flat/vlan networks, and empty list to disable the feature | 09:08 |
oanson | '*' not supported for vlan | 09:08 |
xiaohhui | That is also my understanding | 09:08 |
xiaohhui | hujie: In my ml2 env, the ml2_conf.ini will not have network_vlan_ranges. | 09:09 |
oanson | For the tests, we can add a fake network, with a fake OVS bridge. We can maybe attach to it some tap devices to make sure the network connection works. | 09:09 |
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oanson | And use set_override in the configuration for the tests | 09:10 |
oanson | I can help writing something if needed. | 09:10 |
xiaohhui | Yeah, we may need further look to the test. I am not sure if set_override will work in fullstack, because in fullstack, the test runs after everything is set up. | 09:11 |
oanson | Some code to create a br-<vlan network>, attach a tap device to it, attach it to br-int using the physical network code, and see that packets make it as expected | 09:11 |
oanson | We can update the local.conf generated by the fullstack test to include the relevant information | 09:12 |
oanson | And have plugin.sh read the information and update the configuration files. | 09:12 |
oanson | This is something we probably need in devstack anyway | 09:12 |
xiaohhui | yes, I think we should push some fake config to the ml2 fullstack env | 09:12 |
oanson | We can even have devstack attach automatically the external interfaces, but this should wait for a different patch | 09:13 |
oanson | (According to config, of course) | 09:13 |
xiaohhui | I remember devstack have such config for user to config vlan/flat. I just can't recall the details | 09:14 |
xiaohhui | it should be in a different patch | 09:14 |
xiaohhui | We can focus on the current patch to make it pass the fullstack first | 09:14 |
oanson | Yes. | 09:15 |
oanson | But we should align ourselves to devstack configuration. Either in this patch (if possible) or next patch if too complex. | 09:15 |
oanson | We can cut out any default configuration and construction for now. | 09:15 |
oanson | xiaohhui, is this reasonable? Or still too much? | 09:16 |
xiaohhui | I think it makes sense. | 09:16 |
oanson | Great! :) | 09:16 |
oanson | Is this item closed for now? | 09:17 |
xiaohhui | yeah | 09:17 |
oanson | Great. Thanks! | 09:17 |
oanson | The next item is port status notification | 09:17 |
oanson | I think jingting's patch is very close to being ready for merge, with a few minor issues | 09:17 |
jingting | yes, i will fix it soon | 09:18 |
oanson | Packaging will wait for Ocata. it isn't reasonable that it will be ready by the summit. I think there is enough work with VLAN/flat networks, port status, and the other things we're working on. | 09:19 |
oanson | The QoS code is also in review. I was mainly reviewing the North Bound, and I see nick-ma is reviewing the south bound as well. | 09:20 |
oanson | hujie, I see the db consistency patch stopped making progress. | 09:22 |
oanson | Are you still working on it>? | 09:22 |
hujie | sorry, I paid my most time working on HWS+dragonflow test currently | 09:23 |
oanson | I see. | 09:23 |
hujie | and I will try my best to working on it | 09:23 |
oanson | This means that patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331132/ is also halted for now (remote port function)? | 09:23 |
hujie | db consistency\remote port\bug fix | 09:23 |
hujie | I'll try to fix remote port this week | 09:24 |
oanson | Because I think it is very close to being finished, and it would be a strong feature for Newton (cloud inter-operability and the such) | 09:24 |
oanson | Great. Thanks! | 09:24 |
hujie | I'll try to working on db consistency next week:) | 09:24 |
oanson | Very good. | 09:25 |
oanson | #topic Performance | 09:25 |
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oanson | yuli_s isn't in today | 09:25 |
oanson | But he sent me the results. | 09:25 |
xiaohhui | Is there any work item to improve performance? | 09:26 |
hujie | what's the result?? | 09:27 |
oanson | In a test of 4000+ df controller nodes, 1 Neutron server, and redis spread over (I think, because I can't find it in the email) 8 servers | 09:27 |
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oanson | xiaohhui, once we have results, we can decide if they are good enough. | 09:27 |
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oanson | hujie, one sec, I am trying to read this cryptic email :) | 09:27 |
hujie | ok :) | 09:27 |
oanson | Creation of 50 subnets took ~49 seconds. That means ~1 subnet / second. | 09:27 |
oanson | Which I think is good results. | 09:28 |
oanson | Creating a port per subnet took 17 seconds. i.e. 50 ports in 17 seconds is almost 3 ports/second | 09:28 |
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oanson | Creating 5 ports per subnet (in addition) takes ~86 seconds, which is also almost 3 ports per second (2.9). | 09:29 |
oanson | There were 250 ports created in that test. | 09:29 |
hujie | what's the performance data for native Neutron without dragonflow? | 09:29 |
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oanson | I don't have that. I can look up the performance benchmarks for the reference implementation for next meeting. | 09:29 |
hujie | ok thanks | 09:30 |
oanson | If we'll manage to keep the environment, we may be able to compare with OVN, opendaylight, etc., | 09:30 |
oanson | On the other hand, I am not sure this is where we should invest our time. | 09:30 |
oanson | I think it is important first and foremost to verify that we operate fast enough to be deployed in a cloud of thousands of nodes. | 09:30 |
oanson | IIRC, we wanted to reach 10000 :) | 09:31 |
oanson | But I find these numbers very hopeful. | 09:31 |
oanson | We don't have permanent servers for this, but the best thing would be to re-run this benchmark automatically on a weekly basis. But this is a long-term dream for now :) | 09:32 |
oanson | That's what I have for now. | 09:32 |
xiaohhui | Thanks oanson for sharing | 09:32 |
oanson | #topic Bugs | 09:33 |
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hujie | do you want to add stress test? | 09:33 |
oanson | hujie, yes. What did you have in mind? | 09:33 |
oanson | I think the tempest and rally should do something like that as well, but they have to be stabalised. | 09:34 |
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hujie | I just wonder whether the db cluster is stable enough in the stress test | 09:34 |
oanson | This is definitely something that needs to be tested. | 09:35 |
hujie | ok good thx | 09:35 |
oanson | This may also be the instability we see in the rally and tempest tests. | 09:35 |
hujie | ok let's move on please :) | 09:36 |
oanson | In bugs, I see that all high importance bugs are assigned | 09:36 |
oanson | There were a few Undecided, but I changed that. | 09:36 |
oanson | Since there is nothing critical, I think we can move on. | 09:37 |
oanson | #topic Open Discussion | 09:37 |
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oanson | The floor is for the taking | 09:37 |
hujie | what's the most important feature for us to support in the future? | 09:38 |
xiaohhui | And is there a plan in O release? | 09:39 |
oanson | There are plans for O release. | 09:39 |
oanson | I think the most important thing for O release is deployment. I will make sure I have the time to work on this | 09:39 |
oanson | I am looking into openstack-ansible, and nick-ma mentioned that he may be looking into kolla. If anyone wants to look into openstack-puppet or Fuel, that would be great | 09:40 |
oanson | (But not urgent. That's for next cycle) | 09:40 |
oanson | Additionally, there are many Neutron features we can implement, e.g. FW, LB, VPN, etc. | 09:40 |
oanson | Full IPv6 support is important | 09:40 |
oanson | These are the options that immediately spring to mind | 09:41 |
xiaohhui | What about the snat? | 09:41 |
hujie | in the etc... | 09:41 |
oanson | xiaohhui, yes. | 09:41 |
oanson | Whatever potential deployers think is important. I would really like to get our user-base to grow | 09:42 |
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oanson | I hope in the Barcelona summit to meet both deployers and developers, and get a clear picture of what are the priorities | 09:42 |
hujie | yes | 09:42 |
oanson | I also have a personal dream of SFC, but I don't know if that would fit Ocata. It may have to wait for P cycle, but I will see if I can catch the networking-sfc people in the summit as well. | 09:43 |
oanson | I will organise a list on etherpad, so we will have a more organised vision | 09:44 |
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hujie | ok thx | 09:45 |
oanson | Of course, this is a democracy. If there is something you want, I would love to hear it! | 09:45 |
oanson | Once the etherpad will be ready, you could just add it there as we go. | 09:46 |
hujie | does Ashed still working on dragonflow? | 09:46 |
oanson | hujie, yes. | 09:47 |
hujie | ok good | 09:47 |
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oanson | But he is taking a less technical role, and a more community role | 09:47 |
hujie | ok got it :) | 09:47 |
oanson | Anything else? | 09:48 |
xiaohhui | Nothing from me | 09:48 |
hujie | It's the supper time in beijing :) | 09:48 |
oanson | All right. | 09:48 |
oanson | The enjoy your meal. | 09:48 |
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xiaohhui | Thanks~ | 09:48 |
oanson | It's lunch time here, so we're hungry too :) | 09:48 |
hujie | thx :) | 09:48 |
oanson | Thanks for coming, and for a great effort! | 09:49 |
oanson | #endmeeting | 09:49 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 19 09:49:08 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:49 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-09-19-09.00.html | 09:49 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-09-19-09.00.txt | 09:49 |
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openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-09-19-09.00.log.html | 09:49 |
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apuimedo | #startmeeting kuryr | 14:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 19 14:01:30 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is apuimedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kuryr' | 14:01 |
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apuimedo | Hello! Who's here for the kuryr meeting? | 14:01 |
vikasc | o/ | 14:01 |
limao_ | o/ | 14:01 |
tonanhngo | o/ | 14:01 |
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lmdaly | o/ | 14:01 |
ivc_ | o/ | 14:02 |
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apuimedo | #info vikasc, limao_, tonanhngo, lmdaly, ivc_ and apuimedo present | 14:03 |
apuimedo | Thank you for joining | 14:03 |
apuimedo | #topic kuryr-lib | 14:03 |
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apuimedo | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Kuryr#Meeting_September_19th.2C_2016 | 14:03 |
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apuimedo | #topic kuryr-lib: REST/rpc | 14:04 |
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apuimedo | #info vikasc has some patches for it already | 14:04 |
irenab | apuimedo: will partially attend | 14:04 |
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apuimedo | lmdaly: I would like to understand if the approach vikasc is pushing works for the PoC you have | 14:05 |
vikasc | apuimedo, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342624/ | 14:05 |
vikasc | apuimedo, this is the first patch toi be reviewd | 14:05 |
vikasc | *to | 14:05 |
janonymous | o/ | 14:05 |
apuimedo | welcome janonymous | 14:06 |
apuimedo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342624/ | 14:06 |
pablochacin | o/ | 14:06 |
apuimedo | welcome pablochacin | 14:06 |
apuimedo | vikasc: lmdaly: we have to make it in a way that is configurable with both approaches, address/pairs and trunk/subport | 14:07 |
apuimedo | vikasc: did you introduce such a config option already? | 14:07 |
vikasc | apuimedo, not yet | 14:07 |
vikasc | apuimedo, i have introduced, a configuration option to tell if baremetal or nested-containers | 14:08 |
apuimedo | I'm aware | 14:08 |
apuimedo | I think we can merge that one | 14:08 |
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vikasc | apuimedo, it is like one more variable applicable with nested-containers | 14:09 |
apuimedo | #action apuimedo to review and possibly merge https://review.openstack.org/362023 | 14:09 |
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apuimedo | #action vikasc to add a second config patch for selecting the container-in-vm approach | 14:09 |
apuimedo | the same setting should be used for both the host side and the VM side | 14:10 |
vikasc | apuimedo, so to answer your question.. not added yet this new configuration option in nested-containers case. | 14:10 |
apuimedo | very well | 14:11 |
vikasc | apuimedo, by host side you mean on master node? | 14:11 |
apuimedo | we'll get to that | 14:11 |
apuimedo | vikasc: right | 14:11 |
vikasc | apuimedo, yeah..right | 14:11 |
hongbin | o/ | 14:11 |
apuimedo | vikasc: possibly we can run more than one master node and have them HAed with corosync-pacemaker | 14:11 |
apuimedo | welcome hongbin | 14:12 |
vikasc | apuimedo, in my current understanding rpc patches will work for ip/macvlan approch as well | 14:12 |
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apuimedo | good | 14:12 |
apuimedo | #action apuimedo irenab to review all the rpc patches | 14:12 |
apuimedo | #topic kuryr-lib: specs/devref | 14:12 |
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vikasc | apuimedo, i need to rebase rpc patches.. i was updating rest patches only by now | 14:13 |
vikasc | apuimedo, will do | 14:13 |
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vikasc | apuimedo, we should review first kuryr-lib repo patches | 14:13 |
apuimedo | #info after going through the mailing list for a week, I think the option that generates the larger consensus is to keep the specs on openstack/kuryr and to put devrefs close to the code, i.e. in the repo where the implementation will go | 14:13 |
apuimedo | vikasc: absolutely | 14:13 |
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vikasc | apuimedo, i will understand from you HA scenario offline | 14:14 |
apuimedo | vikasc: sure, we can discuss it later | 14:15 |
apuimedo | #topic kuryr-libnetwork: credential selection | 14:15 |
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apuimedo | #info: Keystone v3 support was merged, but Kuryr will still prefer cloud.yaml auth options over kuryr.conf, as it was doing up until now | 14:15 |
apuimedo | banix brought my attention to it | 14:16 |
apuimedo | and we should try reverting that preference in a way that doesn't break fullstack/rally tests. | 14:16 |
banix | apuimedo: how is this done? i mean where is this being done? | 14:16 |
apuimedo | banix: let me link it | 14:17 |
apuimedo | #link https://github.com/openstack/kuryr-libnetwork/blob/master/kuryr_libnetwork/controllers.py#L74-L76 | 14:18 |
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apuimedo | first it goes to the cloud yaml in line 74 | 14:18 |
apuimedo | otherwise it goes to getting it from kuryr.conf in L76 | 14:18 |
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apuimedo | it's possible that just swapping those lines fixes it | 14:18 |
banix | isee; now i remember; was done for the gate job at the time i think | 14:19 |
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banix | will try after the call and let you know; may be can fix it before the release? | 14:20 |
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apuimedo | very well | 14:20 |
apuimedo | banix: that would be ideal | 14:20 |
banix | sure | 14:21 |
apuimedo | #action banix to test swapping the lines | 14:21 |
apuimedo | #info there is a new trello board to track work on Kuryr https://trello.com/b/1Ij919E8 | 14:21 |
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apuimedo | #info committers to kuryr can ping me for being added as members to the trello team | 14:21 |
apuimedo | #topic: kuryr-libnetwork: release | 14:22 |
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apuimedo | #info apuimedo sent a patch to get the kuryr-lib requirement in requirements.txt but it was rejected due to global requirements freeze | 14:22 |
apuimedo | #action apuimedo to request an exception. Which should be granted since nobody else depends on it. | 14:23 |
apuimedo | #topic: kuryr-libnetwork: container-in-vm | 14:24 |
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apuimedo | well, we covered most of it in the kuryr-lib topic | 14:24 |
apuimedo | vikasc: anything to add that is kuryr-libnetwork specific? | 14:24 |
vikasc | apuimedo, i think thats pretty much all | 14:25 |
apuimedo | very well | 14:25 |
apuimedo | #topic kuryr-libnetwork:general | 14:25 |
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apuimedo | #info dongcanye got a patch merged for adding endpoint operation info | 14:25 |
apuimedo | banix: have you tried kuryr with the new swarm? | 14:26 |
banix | won’t work | 14:26 |
apuimedo | :/ | 14:26 |
banix | new swarm is tied to Docker Overlay driver | 14:26 |
banix | they say this will be fixed in 1.13 | 14:26 |
apuimedo | banix: it can't use any remote/ipam drivers? | 14:26 |
banix | no | 14:26 |
banix | as in 1.12 | 14:27 |
vikasc | :D | 14:27 |
apuimedo | good Lord | 14:27 |
apuimedo | that is disappointing | 14:27 |
apuimedo | banix: do you know when 1.13 is coming? | 14:27 |
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banix | if you use the new swarm; not sure if you can disable it | 14:27 |
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apuimedo | #info Docker 1.12 swarm mode is not compatible with Kuryr, expected to be fixed on 1.13 | 14:27 |
banix | not sure; in a couple of months? :) | 14:28 |
vikasc | apuimedo, would it make sense to add this under "limitations"? | 14:28 |
apuimedo | (屮゚Д゚)屮 | 14:28 |
banix | i think so | 14:28 |
apuimedo | yes, please | 14:28 |
apuimedo | let's do that | 14:28 |
banix | sure | 14:28 |
apuimedo | #action banix to update *limitations* with the swarm issue | 14:29 |
vikasc | apuimedo, i can do this | 14:29 |
apuimedo | oops | 14:29 |
vikasc | np | 14:29 |
apuimedo | banix: vikasc: whoever feels like doing it. I put banix since he can maybe add the backstory links | 14:29 |
vikasc | sure | 14:29 |
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apuimedo | Finally, I want to draw attention to the multitenancy story for kuryr-libnetwork | 14:30 |
apuimedo | banix: do I remember it properly that we do not receive any env var on enpoint joining request? | 14:30 |
apuimedo | but we can on the other hand receive network operation options | 14:31 |
apuimedo | on network commands | 14:31 |
banix | yes | 14:31 |
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banix | but the options are limited to network create only if my info is not outdated | 14:31 |
apuimedo | that's what I remember as well | 14:32 |
banix | which may be good enough | 14:32 |
banix | we had done some work around multi tenancy; let me revisit and get back to you all | 14:32 |
apuimedo | banix: what I was thinking was, that when users create the networks, they provide keystone auth info | 14:32 |
apuimedo | and then, when joining a network, we do not check, but match on Docker's network uuid | 14:33 |
apuimedo | we find the network that has the docker network uuid tag | 14:33 |
apuimedo | and create the port there, and bind | 14:33 |
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banix | yes thats an option | 14:34 |
apuimedo | banix: please, check that workaround and let us now on #openstack-kuryr ;-) | 14:34 |
apuimedo | moving on | 14:34 |
apuimedo | #topic kubernetes: devstack | 14:34 |
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apuimedo | #info apuimedo started WIP patch for kubernetes devstack | 14:34 |
apuimedo | #link https://review.openstack.org/371432 | 14:35 |
apuimedo | it consists on running etcd3, kubernetes-api, kubernetes-controller-manager and kubernetes-scheduler all in docker containers | 14:35 |
apuimedo | raven, kubelet and CNI on the bare metal | 14:35 |
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apuimedo | I still have some issues with run_process and docker run, but I think I'll be able to solve it soon enough | 14:36 |
apuimedo | after that, we can start having gates when we add new kubernetes integration code | 14:36 |
vikasc | apuimedo, thanks for the great effort!!! | 14:36 |
apuimedo | you're welcome | 14:36 |
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devvesa | +1 | 14:36 |
apuimedo | any question on the kubernetes devstack? | 14:36 |
apuimedo | devvesa: nice to see you | 14:37 |
devvesa | thanks. I've been late today | 14:37 |
apuimedo | no problem | 14:37 |
apuimedo | you made it in time for your section | 14:37 |
devvesa | So the -1 Workflow on the devstack patch means that it fails? | 14:37 |
apuimedo | yes | 14:37 |
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vikasc | why raven in bm? | 14:37 |
apuimedo | it's for me to tell people that I need to fix stuff | 14:37 |
pablochacin | apuimedo: the usual concern about the future of hyperkube | 14:38 |
devvesa | I prefer a WIP on message commit | 14:38 |
apuimedo | vikasc: so that you can edit code while developing and you don't need to regenerate a container for it | 14:38 |
devvesa | because I understood that it was not meant to be merged | 14:38 |
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vikasc | apuimedo, cool | 14:38 |
apuimedo | pablochacin: hyperkube doesn't seem to be going away, if it does, though | 14:38 |
apuimedo | we'll use an all in one binary | 14:38 |
devvesa | last time i download the last version released on the hyperkube container (1.3.7) | 14:38 |
apuimedo | I'll set up a job somewhere that compiles it | 14:38 |
apuimedo | and downloads it | 14:39 |
devvesa | so they kind of maintain it | 14:39 |
hongbin | apuimedo: i think you want to make the version of hyperkube configurable | 14:39 |
apuimedo | devvesa: both gcr.io and quay.io are maintaining their own versions of it | 14:39 |
apuimedo | hongbin: I made it configurable ;-) | 14:39 |
apuimedo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/371432/3/devstack/settings | 14:39 |
apuimedo | the devstack design is | 14:39 |
hongbin | apuimedo: looks good | 14:40 |
apuimedo | you can enable disable each service and point your local.conf to existing services if you have them | 14:40 |
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apuimedo | and you can also specify etcd/hyperkube versions and origin | 14:40 |
apuimedo | (in case somebody prefers quay's more than gcr | 14:40 |
apuimedo | for example | 14:40 |
irenab | apuimedo: it requires a bit of documentation, since too many options can be confusing | 14:40 |
apuimedo | irenab: good point | 14:41 |
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apuimedo | #action apuimedo to make a local.conf.sample with a lot of comments that explain the options | 14:41 |
irenab | apuimedo: or blog :-) | 14:41 |
vikasc | apuimedo, +1 | 14:41 |
apuimedo | irenab: if you can, review the patch reminding me to add that to local.conf.sample | 14:41 |
pablochacin | apuimedo: do you know what magnun project is doing? they also need kubernetes, right? | 14:41 |
irenab | apuimedo: sure | 14:41 |
apuimedo | pablochacin: you have here the best person to answer that | 14:42 |
apuimedo | hongbin: ^^ | 14:42 |
pablochacin | :-/ | 14:42 |
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vikasc | :) | 14:42 |
hongbin | magnum does something similiar (pull docker image for kube components) | 14:42 |
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hongbin | kubelet is provided by the os | 14:43 |
apuimedo | Ideally, we should have a container registry in infra | 14:43 |
apuimedo | that can be used for jobs, kolla, official OpenStack containers, etc | 14:43 |
apuimedo | but I think that's not ready yet | 14:43 |
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apuimedo | #topic py3 asyncio progress | 14:43 |
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apuimedo | devvesa: pablochacin: any news on that front? | 14:44 |
devvesa | apuimedo: the expected ones this week: 0 | 14:44 |
banix | by the way, i think we will have kuryr in kole by the next release | 14:44 |
devvesa | sorry but we have been busy in other stuff | 14:44 |
irenab | banix: Kolla? | 14:45 |
apuimedo | devvesa: very well. That's perfectly understandable | 14:45 |
apuimedo | yes | 14:45 |
banix | yes | 14:45 |
apuimedo | I'll put an #info in open discussion about it :-) | 14:45 |
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apuimedo | I should have done it in the kuryr-libnetwork topic | 14:45 |
apuimedo | I'm in the moon | 14:45 |
banix | sorry for digression | 14:45 |
apuimedo | #topic kubernetes: py2/3 eventlet | 14:45 |
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devvesa | apuimedo: sorry if you already said it, but... any news on the CNI plugin? | 14:46 |
devvesa | s/plugin/driver | 14:46 |
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apuimedo | devvesa: nope, finishing devstack first, so I can have it gated | 14:46 |
apuimedo | #info ivc_ pushed a devref that designs a very different approach than the one apuimedo's devref was pushing for | 14:46 |
devvesa | perfectly understandable :) | 14:46 |
apuimedo | We had a videochat discussion (video available on demand) | 14:47 |
banix | link please | 14:47 |
apuimedo | #action devvesa vikasc pablochacin irenab to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/369105/ | 14:48 |
apuimedo | also, ivc_ started implementing one of it's first pieces, the port provider | 14:48 |
ivc_ | just a note, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/369105/ is wip and i'm hoping to update it soon with more recent information | 14:48 |
apuimedo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370284/ | 14:49 |
apuimedo | thanks ivc_ | 14:49 |
apuimedo | ivc_: any other news? | 14:49 |
ivc_ | yup cleaning up other parts | 14:49 |
ivc_ | and sort of refactoring the service/endpoints dependencies issue | 14:50 |
apuimedo | ivc_: can't wait to see about that in the devref | 14:50 |
apuimedo | :-) | 14:50 |
ivc_ | actually there's no more dependency issue :) | 14:50 |
ivc_ | so i'm removing all the junk code related to it now | 14:50 |
ivc_ | got it sorted out by applying lbaas pool annotation to endpoints instead of service | 14:51 |
apuimedo | ivc_: now I'm even looking forward to seeing it more | 14:51 |
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apuimedo | interesting | 14:51 |
irenab | ivc_: using lbaasV2? | 14:52 |
ivc_ | irenab yes | 14:52 |
apuimedo | so until you see endpoint event with annotation, you send it to /dev/null | 14:52 |
irenab | great | 14:52 |
apuimedo | nice idea | 14:52 |
ivc_ | apuimedo yup | 14:52 |
apuimedo | ivc_: but it pisses me off. Why didn't I think about doing it like that.... | 14:53 |
apuimedo | anyway, let's move on | 14:53 |
ivc_ | apuimedo ") | 14:53 |
apuimedo | #topic open discussion | 14:53 |
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banix | here are related patches regarding Kuryr integration in Kolla: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298894/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/364662/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370382/ | 14:54 |
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apuimedo | #info huikang scored a big buzzer beater for Kuryr getting it inside Kolla's newton release just as the clock was expiring. I can't thank enough all the efforts from huikang, sdake, inc0 and Jeffrey | 14:54 |
banix | +1 | 14:55 |
apuimedo | it will be very nice for kuryr-libnetwork development to be able to use kolla instead of devstack :-) | 14:55 |
vikasc | macvlan v/s ipvlan | 14:55 |
apuimedo | #info In order to be on more consumer ready kolla usage, we should have RPM/deb packages and add kolla code to consume those as well | 14:56 |
apuimedo | right | 14:56 |
apuimedo | limao_: vikasc: lmdaly please, explain about the macvlan/ipvlan. I gotta run | 14:56 |
apuimedo | #chair banix | 14:56 |
openstack | Current chairs: apuimedo banix | 14:56 |
apuimedo | banix: please finish the meeting | 14:56 |
banix | k | 14:57 |
irenab | 3 mins left | 14:57 |
apuimedo | #info limao made a very nice document manually testing the ipvlan proposal with macvlan https://lipingmao.github.io/2016/09/18/kuryr_macvlan_ipvlan_datapath_poc.html | 14:57 |
apuimedo | (even using ipam) | 14:57 |
vikasc | Only pro in using ipvlan seems to be the limit on number of virtual interfaces before interface enters promiscous mode | 14:58 |
limao_ | ipvlan need more high kernel version | 14:58 |
limao_ | http://hicu.be/macvlan-vs-ipvlan | 14:58 |
limao_ | a blog about pro and con | 14:59 |
hongbin | yes, i would say the requirement of high kernel version will cause problem | 14:59 |
irenab | limao_: thanks for sharing | 14:59 |
limao_ | maybe we can consider support both ipvlan and macvlan | 14:59 |
vikasc | IMO, promiscous mode should not be as major concern as latest kernel requirement | 14:59 |
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banix | #info a blog about pro and con : http://hicu.be/macvlan-vs-ipvlan | 14:59 |
lmdaly | I see no issue with the possibility of introducing a macvlan option | 15:00 |
banix | running out of time; should perhaps end now and continue on kuryr channel if need be | 15:00 |
banix | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 19 15:00:19 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-09-19-14.01.html | 15:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-09-19-14.01.txt | 15:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-09-19-14.01.log.html | 15:00 |
vikasc | limao_, +1 for supporting both | 15:00 |
irenab | +1 | 15:00 |
jimbaker | #startmeeting craton | 15:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 19 15:00:52 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jimbaker. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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jimbaker | #topic rollcall | 15:01 |
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syed_ | o/ | 15:01 |
jimbaker | hi everyone, and welcome to this week's meeting on craton | 15:01 |
syed_ | Hi jim | 15:01 |
syed_ | i hope you are doing well | 15:01 |
jimbaker | syed_, thanks, yes, i had a very good hike yesterday | 15:02 |
jimbaker | so that always is a great way to prepare a solid foundation for the week | 15:02 |
syed_ | Good, i am glad | 15:02 |
jimbaker | which is as we know, is actually related to what craton means (in this case, a solid foundation/platform for continents), and should do for the cloud | 15:03 |
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jimbaker | syed_, hopefully you had a nice weekend as well, and ready for some good progress on functional testing/container automation | 15:03 |
sulo | hola, o/ | 15:04 |
syed_ | yeap i went to visit family, and ready for some things to be up | 15:04 |
jimbaker | sulo, hi | 15:04 |
syed_ | hey sulo | 15:04 |
jimbaker | syed_, good to hear! | 15:04 |
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jimbaker | looks like the core devs for craton are here, so let's proceed | 15:05 |
jimbaker | #topic new meeting schedule | 15:06 |
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jimbaker | sigmavirus, what is a good time for you on tuesday? i saw your note about a conflict | 15:06 |
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jimbaker | ideally sulo can attend the client meeting, but we need a time that you can attend | 15:07 |
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sigmavirus | irc meetings are better for me honestly | 15:07 |
sigmavirus | I can join that and a video call more easily than two video alls | 15:07 |
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jimbaker | sigmavirus, understood, but i think the rest of the team benefits from a video call, that's why we started doing them as well | 15:08 |
jimbaker | we can readily do demos, etc | 15:09 |
jimbaker | and there's a training component as well | 15:09 |
sulo | feel free to do meetings without me if thats what is needed | 15:09 |
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jimbaker | sigmavirus, would 1600 UTC work for you? otherwise we can push into US afternoon | 15:09 |
* sulo is more than happy to not attend meetings | 15:10 | |
jimbaker | sulo, agreed - i think i can represent you just fine on the client side | 15:10 |
sigmavirus | jimbaker: can we schedule it outside of this? | 15:10 |
jimbaker | sigmavirus, sounds good - but we need to get this resolved today | 15:11 |
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sigmavirus | jimbaker: 1600 utc looks fine on my calendar | 15:11 |
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jimbaker | sigmavirus, thanks! | 15:12 |
jimbaker | lcastell, i assume 1600 UTC also works for you. same with jovon and syed_ | 15:12 |
jimbaker | moving on | 15:12 |
jovon | works fine | 15:13 |
syed_ | +1 | 15:13 |
jimbaker | #topic outstanding changes | 15:13 |
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jimbaker | #topic outstanding change reviews | 15:13 |
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jimbaker | sulo, i know you have a number of reviews i need to do for you. the only one that i have pushed back is query by variables, pending some refactoring work i'm doing on the api | 15:14 |
jimbaker | others here: are you being blocked by reviews, and if so, any prioritization we should be aware of as we start off this week? | 15:15 |
syed_ | I am good for now. Thanks | 15:15 |
jimbaker | syed_, sounds good. feel free to ping me about docker-py as it comes up | 15:16 |
syed_ | yes i need some clarifications on few things for it | 15:16 |
syed_ | i will once the meeting is over | 15:16 |
syed_ | thanks | 15:16 |
jimbaker | syed_, cool | 15:16 |
sulo | everyone start doing reivews ... this is one of the most important thing that is getting ignored | 15:16 |
jovon | I currently am blocked by turvey's API change. i | 15:17 |
jimbaker | sulo, i don't think we are ignoring them. but we certainly need to keep them prioritized | 15:17 |
sulo | even if you cant merge, everyone can certainly do +1's | 15:17 |
sulo | -1 etc | 15:17 |
jimbaker | sulo, agreed on that | 15:17 |
jovon | agreed sulo | 15:17 |
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jimbaker | even minor nits are important to point out. sometimes what looks minor is also important | 15:18 |
jimbaker | so many eyeballs here | 15:18 |
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jimbaker | jovon, details on turvey's API change? | 15:18 |
sulo | if we think we dont have enough reviewers, perhaps we need to send a community email to get some more ppl aware that they can help with this | 15:18 |
jimbaker | sulo, +1 | 15:19 |
jimbaker | #action jimbaker what can you do for craton? email the community | 15:19 |
sulo | i have some screencast that i need to share .. so i might add a help note when i send out the vidyo | 15:19 |
jovon | he has submitted an update to the doc. I need his patch to be merged before i can complete mine as it pertains to the same set | 15:19 |
sulo | or video even | 15:20 |
jimbaker | sulo, right, thanks for putting those together | 15:20 |
jimbaker | jovon, got it, we will get turvey's review through | 15:20 |
sulo | jimbaker: you talking about the one i did for JC ? | 15:20 |
jimbaker | sulo, just in general, but yes | 15:21 |
jovon | thank you | 15:21 |
sulo | right, yeah i dont like that one .. the one i intend to send will be better | 15:21 |
jimbaker | sulo, practice makes perfect | 15:21 |
sulo | didnt have enough time on that | 15:21 |
jimbaker | so the net of this is: all of us need to do reviews. these can be great to do when stuck on something else | 15:24 |
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jimbaker | also this is a chance to learn what the codebase does | 15:24 |
jimbaker | by trying out functionality | 15:24 |
jovon | +1 | 15:24 |
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jimbaker | new REST API in a change from sulo? give it a try from curl | 15:24 |
syed_ | sounds good ! | 15:25 |
jimbaker | btw, i assume everyone knows how to pull in a change from gerrit so they can actually try stuff out locally | 15:25 |
jimbaker | but if not: look at the downloads link | 15:26 |
jimbaker | :) | 15:26 |
jovon | roger that ty! | 15:27 |
jimbaker | time to wrap up this topic, feel free to ask more on #craton - and please demand your reviews get done! | 15:28 |
jimbaker | #topic dev issues | 15:28 |
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jimbaker | sulo, do you want to start with the label discussion? | 15:28 |
jimbaker | i assume this is with respect to OSA modeling | 15:28 |
sulo | so, labels - how do we want to use it ? | 15:29 |
jimbaker | sulo, my assumption has been is that labels are used for logical groupings | 15:29 |
jimbaker | they are not part of the network topology (which we just added with networks, netdevices, and interfaces). they are not part of a physical containment (the device tree) | 15:30 |
jimbaker | so we can labels like "service:compute" | 15:30 |
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sulo | so whats the benifit of doing this in a separate table vs just puttig lables in device model | 15:31 |
jimbaker | obviously we can do the same with variables on a given device - that's why i was describing labels as duals to variables | 15:31 |
jimbaker | sulo, well i think they are in fact already are | 15:31 |
sulo | ? | 15:31 |
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jimbaker | labels have a many-to-many relationship to devices | 15:32 |
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jimbaker | so they already are there in the device model. at least in the relational sense | 15:32 |
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jimbaker | in craton's inventory model, devices are the central concept | 15:33 |
jimbaker | (we can all agree on that) | 15:33 |
sulo | right, what i am saying is whats the benifit of having this relationship vs just tracking it per device on the devices model | 15:33 |
sulo | it only makes sense to do this if we were doing more with it | 15:34 |
jimbaker | sulo, they are pretty light weight right now | 15:34 |
sulo | i am trying to understand (i forget the discussion) what we were trying to drive with labels | 15:34 |
jimbaker | i think the only complexity is that we let them have variables | 15:34 |
sulo | that too | 15:34 |
jimbaker | if we eliminate that, they become very simple | 15:35 |
jimbaker | sulo, so the idea is that we want to be able to look up various logical groupings efficiently, by using relational queries | 15:35 |
jimbaker | much as we do with cell or region | 15:35 |
sulo | so does that need k:v labels ? | 15:36 |
jimbaker | so i can label a device by how it's grouped with power; or what its function is (it's for storage, or for compute, or whatever) | 15:36 |
jimbaker | sulo, i think that's just a useful convention that we can support | 15:36 |
jimbaker | and let's map to say http://kubernetes.io/docs/user-guide/labels/ | 15:37 |
jimbaker | sulo, note they have a similar design concept: "We don’t want to pollute labels with non-identifying, especially large and/or structured, data. Non-identifying information should be recorded using annotations." | 15:38 |
jimbaker | what they call annotations is definitely close to what we are describing as variables | 15:38 |
sulo | so what i am syaing is i dont see why we couldnt just do this with variables .. it seems like exact the same thing .. we just need to track it differently .. example: label_x | 15:39 |
sulo | but maybe its a good idea to do it separately | 15:39 |
jimbaker | sulo, i absolutely agree that it can be done in this way | 15:40 |
jimbaker | but perhaps many of the things we might do a variable query would be better done with a label. it would certainly be far more efficient | 15:40 |
sulo | like what ? | 15:40 |
jimbaker | just to get in some details: on mysql we are not even mapping json columns to mysql's json type | 15:41 |
jimbaker | this is in part because mariadb doesn't yet have support for mysql's json type | 15:41 |
jimbaker | and the sqlalchemy_utils package currently doesn't look at specific db impl - for mysql, it just does TEXT | 15:42 |
jimbaker | but this will change over time | 15:42 |
jimbaker | at some point, queries that involve json columns will be able to use json indexing | 15:42 |
jimbaker | but we would need to do some work | 15:43 |
sulo | doesnt that apply to everything that uses JSON type ? | 15:43 |
jimbaker | whereas with labels, we get that indexing for free, since it's purely relational | 15:43 |
jimbaker | sulo, right, but we usually are less concerned about this | 15:44 |
sulo | oh, you saying it can only be string:string mapping for labels ? | 15:44 |
jimbaker | sulo, yes | 15:44 |
jimbaker | the label name is currently just a string | 15:44 |
jimbaker | i want to support splitting it into two strings, because the k:v convention is pretty nice as seen in kube | 15:45 |
sulo | yeah, i am thinking about <string>: JSONType | 15:45 |
jimbaker | but yeah, the :v part will not grow to be arbitrary JSON. that would be bad | 15:45 |
jimbaker | then we would just have a more awkward, non relational thing in labels. i wouldn't even know how to model as we have it now :) | 15:46 |
sulo | so how would we represent multiple group memebership in labels ? | 15:46 |
jimbaker | sulo, labels are many to many with devices | 15:46 |
jimbaker | so we get that for free | 15:47 |
jimbaker | the one thing we don't have is any label hierarchy. but i don't see the need for that | 15:48 |
jimbaker | that thinking was mostly inspired by a desire to implement a DAG for network modeling. but instead we came up with a better modeling of that, which is actually quite sweet imho | 15:48 |
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sulo | so i am not sure i am on the same page as you here ... | 15:50 |
jimbaker | sulo, i suggest we move this discussion over to #craton | 15:50 |
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sulo | yeah, i think this is a much longer discussion .. lets move to #craton after this meeting | 15:51 |
jimbaker | cool | 15:51 |
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jimbaker | other dev topics that we should cover? | 15:52 |
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sulo | where are we with worker code ? | 15:52 |
jimbaker | i will mention that my goals for this week include: refactoring of the flask api; craton-specific backend for taskflow | 15:53 |
sulo | is that something we are clear with in terms of how to model ... | 15:53 |
jimbaker | sulo, so i put that gist up last week | 15:53 |
jimbaker | i will revisit as a blueprint. today sounds right to me | 15:54 |
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sulo | ok cool ... i think we are coming to the point where some sort of worker impl will be required soon | 15:54 |
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jimbaker | sulo, the key piece is going to be scheduling the task graph, which we have decided to break into two pieces | 15:54 |
sulo | to drive some of the osa integration etc | 15:54 |
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jimbaker | sulo, yeah, so that's really about wrapping the ansible-playbook command and especially using the callback api | 15:55 |
jimbaker | for ansible/OSA specifically | 15:55 |
jimbaker | the general piece is the two level task graph scheduling | 15:55 |
sulo | ok cool. that sounds like you have it under control ;) | 15:56 |
jimbaker | sulo, more that i'm juggling them, but sure :) | 15:57 |
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jimbaker | just need to keep everything in the air, not so bad. just remember: if we juggle too much, it all falls to the ground ;) | 15:57 |
sulo | jimbaker: heh, upto 5 pins allowed | 15:58 |
jimbaker | exacty | 15:58 |
jimbaker | time to wrap up this meeting | 15:58 |
jimbaker | #topic questions/goodbyes | 15:58 |
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jimbaker | so really this means - take your questions over to #craton | 15:59 |
jimbaker | because there's no time left | 15:59 |
jimbaker | thanks everyone! | 15:59 |
jovon | thanks | 15:59 |
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jimbaker | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 19 15:59:59 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/craton/2016/craton.2016-09-19-15.00.html | 16:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/craton/2016/craton.2016-09-19-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
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Sukhdev | #startmeeting ironic_neutron | 16:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 19 16:00:49 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
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Sukhdev | who is here to attend Ironic-neutron meeting? | 16:01 |
mjturek | o/ | 16:01 |
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Sukhdev | mjturek : Hi | 16:01 |
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mjturek | hey Sukhdev, happy monday :) | 16:02 |
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Sukhdev | I am on vacation for two weeks - did not have time to prepare the agenda - so, will use the last week's | 16:02 |
Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:02 |
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Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron#Meeting_September_12.2C_2016 | 16:03 |
sambetts | o/ | 16:03 |
hshiina | o/ | 16:03 |
Sukhdev | I am on the road with limited access to internet - thought I run it quickly | 16:04 |
Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements | 16:04 |
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Sukhdev | So, the port groups are pushed to next release | 16:05 |
Sukhdev | does anybody know about the Security Groups? | 16:05 |
Sukhdev | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361451 - this has not gone anywhere | 16:05 |
Sukhdev | jroll : so, did we decide to push the SG to next release as well - or is it still up for discussion? | 16:06 |
sambetts | I think its a similar story, however we did notice that we need to document correcting the default security groups if we don't merge that code | 16:06 |
sambetts | I think jroll added a node to our install guide about it | 16:07 |
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sambetts | I think the patch might be still up for review | 16:07 |
sambetts | Sukhdev: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/369385/ | 16:08 |
Sukhdev | sambetts : as long as neutron networks are used, the default SG are in play and those are documented as part of neutron docs | 16:08 |
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sambetts | Sukhdev: right but we need to document what ports etc you have to enable to make Ironic work | 16:08 |
Sukhdev | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/369385/ | 16:08 |
Sukhdev | sambetts : right | 16:09 |
Sukhdev | I will review the patch later in the day when I have some free moments | 16:09 |
hshiina | Ironic cores seems to have decided to push the SG in Ocata at last week ironic meeting. | 16:10 |
sambetts | if we don't have that doc patch and we don't merge the sec group support then I envision many support calls asking why the ramdisk can't talk to ironic | 16:10 |
Sukhdev | hshiina : thanks for the update | 16:10 |
Sukhdev | sambetts : actually, it may not be that bad - as long ML2 drivers are doing the right thing | 16:11 |
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Sukhdev | default SG allow the DHCP to work - so, that instance get the IP address - even when no SG specified - | 16:12 |
sambetts | Sukhdev: if Ml2 drivers are supporting sec groups then the default sec group will lock the network down won't it? The default rules are very strict | 16:12 |
sambetts | I though | 16:12 |
sambetts | thought* | 16:12 |
Sukhdev | however, the tftp of image may be problematic | 16:12 |
Sukhdev | right - the instance probably will get IP address - but, may not progress any further - | 16:13 |
sambetts | and things like the ISCSI / http communications, so they are all mentioned in jroll's patch :) | 16:13 |
Sukhdev | so, the right course of action is the operator updates the default SG and launches the BM - | 16:13 |
Sukhdev | update the default SG - means add ingress rules to the SG | 16:14 |
sambetts | yeah there are a few different rules to add, including ingress and egress for certain communications | 16:15 |
Sukhdev | default SG rules (I believe) are allow all egress TCP/UDP | 16:15 |
Sukhdev | I will look at jroll's patch and make a comment about this - | 16:16 |
sambetts | ah cool! that makes things a little simpler then | 16:16 |
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Sukhdev | Do we need to discuss anything else today? | 16:18 |
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sambetts | nothing from me | 16:19 |
Sukhdev | If not, lets wrap it up - I can go back to my breakfast - I am on vacation :-):-) | 16:19 |
Sukhdev | BTW, I am off next week as well | 16:19 |
Sukhdev | shall we cancel next week's meeting? | 16:19 |
Sukhdev | Or sambetts can you run it? | 16:20 |
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sambetts | I can run it if we have stuff to talk about | 16:20 |
Sukhdev | sambetts : I am sure you can think about stuff to discuss :-) | 16:20 |
sambetts | :) | 16:20 |
Sukhdev | thanks for volunteering, sambetts | 16:20 |
Sukhdev | hshiina : anything you would like to discuss? | 16:21 |
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hshiina | nothing | 16:21 |
Sukhdev | cool - thanks | 16:22 |
Sukhdev | OK - we are done then | 16:22 |
Sukhdev | Thanks folks | 16:22 |
hshiina | thanks | 16:22 |
Sukhdev | see you in two weeks | 16:22 |
Sukhdev | bye | 16:22 |
sambetts | enjoy your vacation! | 16:22 |
sambetts | o/ | 16:22 |
Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 16:22 |
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openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-09-19-16.00.html | 16:22 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-09-19-16.00.txt | 16:22 |
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dames | o/ | 17:00 |
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icey | \o | 17:00 |
gnuoy | o/ | 17:00 |
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gnuoy | #startmeeting charms | 17:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 19 17:00:44 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gnuoy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
cargonza | o/ | 17:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'charms' | 17:00 |
tinwood | o/ | 17:01 |
gnuoy | I'm standing in for the PTL until he pops along | 17:01 |
gnuoy | #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting | 17:01 |
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gnuoy | #subtopic tinwood to update charm guide with refactored charms_openstack bits | 17:01 |
beisner | o/ | 17:01 |
gnuoy | tinwood, I was wondering if I could take that action if you haven't done it? | 17:01 |
tinwood | sure; I was away so couldn't get to it. | 17:02 |
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gnuoy | #action gnuoy update charm guide with refactored charms_openstack bits | 17:02 |
gnuoy | #subtopic jamespage to review current newton specs against plan | 17:02 |
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gnuoy | Lets circle back to that when he arrives | 17:02 |
jamespage | o/ | 17:02 |
wolsen | o/ | 17:02 |
jamespage | sorry I'm late | 17:03 |
gnuoy | ah, here he is | 17:03 |
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gnuoy | jamespage, : jamespage to review current newton specs against plan | 17:03 |
gnuoy | reviewing action from previous meeting ^ | 17:03 |
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jamespage | yeah carry that forward pls | 17:03 |
gnuoy | #chair jamespage | 17:03 |
openstack | Current chairs: gnuoy jamespage | 17:03 |
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jamespage | ta | 17:04 |
gnuoy | #action jamespage review current newton specs against plan | 17:04 |
jamespage | was that it for previous actions? | 17:04 |
gnuoy | jamespage, yep | 17:04 |
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jamespage | #topic State of Development for next Charm Release | 17:05 |
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gnuoy | The Freeze it is a comin | 17:05 |
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jamespage | ok so headlines - feature freeze is week on thursday - 29th september; bugfixes only past that date | 17:05 |
icey | Winter is coming | 17:05 |
jamespage | so features need to be reviewed and landed by the end of 29th | 17:06 |
jamespage | anything past that - apply for a feature freeze on the openstack-dev ML | 17:06 |
jamespage | [charms] feature freeze exception: <name> | 17:06 |
beisner | or work on tests, we can still land tests :-) | 17:06 |
jamespage | thats true | 17:06 |
jamespage | I have one more cross charm feature to land: | 17:07 |
jamespage | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/372548 | 17:07 |
tinwood | technically, it's not a feature unless it has tests :) | 17:07 |
gnuoy | ah yes | 17:07 |
jamespage | that's the proof - sets the application version for a deployed charm | 17:07 |
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beisner | I sent a mail to the list a while back about removing tests/charmhelpers and pulling that into the test's venv instead. Anyone have a chance to think about that or look at it? the one poc is merge-conflict atm, but principle remains workable. | 17:08 |
jamespage | also don't forget its 16.10 bug squash day on thursday | 17:08 |
beisner | it removes 2K lines of cargo-code | 17:08 |
beisner | per repo | 17:08 |
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jamespage | beisner, hmm - I'll have to dig that out but in principle +1 | 17:08 |
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jamespage | charms on a diet - nice | 17:08 |
beisner | it'd be one more stable/master bit to flip every time we release, but, sed. | 17:09 |
jamespage | beisner, if you have cycles to refresh, I'll review | 17:09 |
jamespage | ok next up | 17:10 |
beisner | ok i'll rebase and update, will circulate the poc when ready. thx | 17:10 |
jamespage | #topic High Priority Bugs | 17:10 |
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jamespage | anything nasty biting us atm? I'm aware of a few ks v3 compat issues | 17:10 |
gnuoy | swift-proxy and ceilometer are having keystone v3 headaches | 17:10 |
gnuoy | jamespage, fwiw we skipped a small agenda item | 17:11 |
gnuoy | "Rotate the chair" | 17:11 |
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jamespage | oh sorry | 17:11 |
gnuoy | np | 17:11 |
jamespage | did I do the last one as well? | 17:11 |
jamespage | ok we should rotate things | 17:11 |
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gnuoy | Shall we stick names in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-charms-weekly-meeting and just pop off the list | 17:11 |
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jamespage | gnuoy, +1 | 17:12 |
gnuoy | kk | 17:12 |
tinwood | +1 | 17:12 |
jamespage | gnuoy, can you populate the list and pop me off the top please? | 17:12 |
gnuoy | will do | 17:12 |
jamespage | #action gnuoy to make list of chairs and schedule | 17:12 |
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jamespage | I'm also aware of two bugs in the storage charms - cholcombe and icey will be looking into those | 17:13 |
jamespage | specifically pruning osd and swift storage devices from updatedb | 17:13 |
cholcombe | jamespage, right | 17:13 |
jamespage | and tweak the scheduler for osd devices | 17:13 |
cholcombe | should be pretty small changes | 17:13 |
jamespage | cholcombe, great! | 17:14 |
jamespage | yeah - quick wins to largish problems IMHO | 17:14 |
sdake | i see i was paged anything relating to this meeting? | 17:14 |
jamespage | cholcombe, lets make sure we cover the charm upgrade use-case | 17:14 |
jamespage | sdake, I don't think so | 17:14 |
sdake | jamespage roger thanks | 17:14 |
cholcombe | jamespage, sounds good | 17:14 |
jamespage | #topic OpenStack Events | 17:14 |
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jamespage | well one largish one on the horizon | 17:15 |
jamespage | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-charm-summit-planning | 17:15 |
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jamespage | I've added some items for our fishbowl sessions; we also have two workroom sessions scheduler | 17:15 |
jamespage | my feel is we could give one fishbowl back atm unless we can think of other things that need discussing? | 17:15 |
jamespage | thoughts? | 17:16 |
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tinwood | How long is a fishbowl? 25 mins? | 17:16 |
tinwood | 35? | 17:16 |
jamespage | 40 minutes | 17:17 |
gnuoy | jamespage, in my experience they can very easily get bogged down so its v. hard to tell | 17:17 |
jamespage | we're at about 55 mins timeboxed atm | 17:17 |
jamespage | ok lets stick with two slots then | 17:17 |
jamespage | they are back to back on the wednesday afternoon atm | 17:17 |
tinwood | yes, I was thinking that a couple of those topics could spiral. | 17:18 |
jamespage | moving on | 17:18 |
jamespage | #topic Open Discussion | 17:19 |
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jamespage | bad luck - you're stuck with me as PTL for the ocata cycle ;) | 17:19 |
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tinwood | :) | 17:19 |
gnuoy | \o/ | 17:19 |
wolsen | :) | 17:19 |
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beisner | congrats, jamespage :) | 17:19 |
thedac | whew! | 17:19 |
icey | grats! | 17:19 |
jamespage | well it was by default - seat was uncontested | 17:20 |
gnuoy | I've added the people here on to the list of chairs for this meeting in the etherpad. Please take yourself off if you so desire | 17:20 |
jamespage | looks like gnuoy is up in two weeks time | 17:20 |
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gnuoy | yep | 17:21 |
jamespage | speaking of which -do you think we should get that second slot on the other week? | 17:21 |
jamespage | I'd be up for that - we could do weekly imho? | 17:21 |
gnuoy | an APAC friendly slot? | 17:21 |
jamespage | yeah - that was my thinking | 17:22 |
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jamespage | it might be quiet to start with, but we have a few users and contributors in asia now | 17:22 |
gnuoy | sure, we can give it a go | 17:22 |
wolsen | I think there are definitely a few folks in the AP timeslot who would like that | 17:22 |
jamespage | #action jamespage to identity alternate week slot and get scheduled | 17:22 |
jamespage | wolsen, awesome | 17:23 |
jamespage | ok anything else? | 17:23 |
wolsen | jamespage: when you pick a timeslot, I'll broadcast to the crew I know of | 17:23 |
jamespage | wolsen, excellent | 17:23 |
jamespage | ok so | 17:23 |
jamespage | #endmeeting | 17:23 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 19 17:23:48 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:23 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2016/charms.2016-09-19-17.00.html | 17:23 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2016/charms.2016-09-19-17.00.txt | 17:23 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2016/charms.2016-09-19-17.00.log.html | 17:23 |
jamespage | +2 weeks folks | 17:23 |
thedac | thanks, jamespage | 17:24 |
gnuoy | thanks jamespage | 17:24 |
tinwood | thanks both | 17:24 |
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