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| ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 08:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 7 08:00:40 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 08:00 |
| ifat_afek | hi everyone! | 08:00 |
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| nofarsch | hi! | 08:01 |
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| idan_hefetz | Hi all | 08:01 |
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| eyalb | hi | 08:03 |
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| alexey_weyl | Hi | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Status and Updates | 08:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status and Updates (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:05 | |
| ifat_afek | Newton release schedule: We are in feature freeze, we are allowed to fix bugs, but not to add new features | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | RC1 is scheduled for September 15, and after it is tagged a stable/newton branch will be created and we can start using the master branch for Ocata development | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | The final release is scheduled for October 6 | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | An update regarding vitrage hands-on lab in Barcelona: it is still declared an “alternate session”, which means if another session is canceled at any stage, our session may enter instead | 08:07 |
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| danoffek | Hi guys | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | My updates: I’m trying to figure out some issues regarding vitrage release. like pypi versions, documents, release notes, etc. | 08:08 |
| ifat_afek | who wants to update next? | 08:08 |
| danoffek | I'll update | 08:08 |
| danoffek | I fixed a bug related to Zabbix server monitoring. | 08:08 |
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| danoffek | That's it | 08:09 |
| ifat_afek | cool, thanks | 08:09 |
| alexey_weyl | I will update | 08:09 |
| alexey_weyl | after some working, I have successfully added a new tempest for the datasources. | 08:09 |
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| alexey_weyl | Now we have a much more bigger coverage with our tempest about changes taht will and can be done in the different datasources apis | 08:11 |
| alexey_weyl | thats it for now | 08:11 |
| ifat_afek | this is great | 08:11 |
| ifat_afek | thanks | 08:11 |
| ifat_afek | are all datasources covered? | 08:11 |
| alexey_weyl | No, not all of them | 08:11 |
| alexey_weyl | mostly the openstack datasources are covered. | 08:12 |
| alexey_weyl | and some more | 08:12 |
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| alexey_weyl | but zabbix and nagios aren't covered | 08:12 |
| ifat_afek | I guess it is much more complex to cover them | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | thanks alexey_weyl | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | any other updates? | 08:13 |
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| ifat_afek | Yujun proposed to make the topology definition in the static datasource in the same format as the evaluator templates. I think it’s a good idea, but if you object let’s discuss it | 08:15 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Open Discussion | 08:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:15 | |
| ifat_afek | anything you would like to discuss? | 08:15 |
| ifat_afek | goodbye then | 08:16 |
| alexey_weyl | goodbye :) | 08:16 |
| danoffek | bye | 08:16 |
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| eyalb | bye | 08:17 |
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| ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 08:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 08:17 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 7 08:17:09 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:17 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-09-07-08.00.html | 08:17 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-09-07-08.00.txt | 08:17 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-09-07-08.00.log.html | 08:17 |
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| alex_xu | #startmeeting nova api | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 7 13:00:12 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova api)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_api' | 13:00 |
| alex_xu | who is here today? | 13:00 |
| gmann | hi | 13:00 |
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| alex_xu | gmann: welcome back | 13:00 |
| gmann | alex_xu: thanks | 13:01 |
| sdague | o/ | 13:01 |
| jichen | o/ | 13:01 |
| edleafe | \o | 13:01 |
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| alex_xu | ok, let us start the meeting | 13:02 |
| alex_xu | after freeze, I think only two things, api-ref and bug fix. | 13:02 |
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| sdague | where did we end up with the policy patches? | 13:02 |
| alex_xu | I think we are done | 13:03 |
| sdague | I was focussed on the placement side, so wasn't sure if those 2 outstanding patches made it in | 13:03 |
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| cdent | o/ | 13:03 |
| alex_xu | sdague: do you want to merge this devstack change https://review.openstack.org/360943, or you just want it as a test? | 13:03 |
| sdague | alex_xu: I just wanted it as a test | 13:03 |
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| alex_xu | sdague: ok, I will close that patch | 13:04 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/356963 | 13:04 |
| sdague | alex_xu: ok, great | 13:04 |
| sdague | http://logs.openstack.org/43/360943/3/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full-ubuntu-xenial/fdd2590/logs/screen-n-api.txt.gz?level=WARNING#_2016-08-29_15_15_52_844 right, looks good | 13:04 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/322944 | 13:04 |
| alex_xu | the last two patches we merged before freeze | 13:04 |
| gmann | sdague: alex_xu what is call on existing user_id things. - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/user_id_based_policy_enforcement | 13:05 |
| gmann | decide later in O and leave as it is as of now? | 13:05 |
| alex_xu | gmann: the answer is the patch https://review.openstack.org/356963 | 13:06 |
| alex_xu | gmann: we won't existed the user_id support, but emit a warning when user use it | 13:06 |
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| gmann | ohk, so we keep those one also and remove in future all together | 13:06 |
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| alex_xu | gmann: yes, I think so | 13:07 |
| gmann | yea make sense. to avoid any last moment breaking any of user | 13:07 |
| sdague | gmann: right | 13:07 |
| gmann | i will abandone those | 13:08 |
| woodster_ | o/ | 13:08 |
| sdague | on the up side, at the ops summit 0 people there were using this kind of policy | 13:08 |
| gmann | oh then why on ML it was so much noice :) | 13:08 |
| alex_xu | heh | 13:09 |
| sdague | it was mostly CERN | 13:09 |
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| sdague | they didn't come to ops summit this time | 13:09 |
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| gmann | humm | 13:10 |
| sdague | anyway, we should move on. Like alex_xu said, I think we're good here | 13:10 |
| sdague | alex_xu: thanks for the update | 13:10 |
| alex_xu | for api-ref, sdague do you have any plan? | 13:10 |
| alex_xu | sdague: np | 13:10 |
| gmann | yea | 13:10 |
| sdague | alex_xu: I need to organize a final sprint | 13:11 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/api-ref-in-rst | 13:11 |
| alex_xu | #link http://burndown.dague.org/ | 13:11 |
| sdague | I was waiting until I felt like we were sure that any FFE items are sorted | 13:11 |
| alex_xu | sdague: ok, cool | 13:11 |
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| sdague | there are still chunks of placement API outstanding that we need to land | 13:11 |
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| alex_xu | sdague: yea, +1 for placement API stuff | 13:12 |
| gmann | sdague: may be considering QA mid cycle (19th week) | 13:12 |
| gmann | (19-21th sept) | 13:12 |
| sdague | gmann: that might be a reasonable week. I'm not going there, so I'll be at home to do content and reviews | 13:13 |
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| alex_xu | there is bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1609039, which mentioned by Matt, that is agreement on the Mid-cycle | 13:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1609039 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Should not be able to sort instances based on joined tables" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Zhenyu Zheng (zhengzhenyu) | 13:14 |
| gmann | sdague: ohh, then i will start before that as whole week i will be there | 13:14 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/359134/ | 13:14 |
| alex_xu | Kevin_Zheng is helping on the fix | 13:14 |
| alex_xu | probably need some feedback | 13:15 |
| sdague | gmann: ok, I can push it back a week | 13:16 |
| gmann | sdague: nice, Thanks | 13:16 |
| alex_xu | ok, this is the only one I noticed, any more buys worth to notice? | 13:19 |
| sdague | not from I | 13:19 |
| alex_xu | s/buys/bugs/ | 13:20 |
| alex_xu | ok | 13:20 |
| sdague | people should probably start thinking about what major priorities we should push on for the API in the next cycle | 13:20 |
| alex_xu | I have one back-port https://review.openstack.org/#/c/364613/, anyway, I just need push some stable core to review. | 13:20 |
| sdague | I think the 2 priority model worked quite well this cycle | 13:20 |
| sdague | and we should probably continue to try that going forward | 13:21 |
| alex_xu | yea | 13:21 |
| gmann | yea | 13:21 |
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| sdague | but lets hold off a couple weeks talking about that | 13:22 |
| sdague | because there are still the release and bugs front | 13:22 |
| alex_xu | agree | 13:22 |
| jichen | +1 | 13:22 |
| gmann | yea, that will be good | 13:22 |
| sdague | jichen: you still have a -1 on this patch - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/359134/ how do we resolve that? | 13:22 |
| jichen | I will take a look at Kevin's response | 13:23 |
| sdague | jichen: I think your comments are good | 13:23 |
| sdague | I'm surprised Kevin_Zheng hasn't respun the patch yet | 13:23 |
| alex_xu | I will ping Kevin_Zheng tomorrow | 13:24 |
| sdague | alex_xu: thanks | 13:24 |
| alex_xu | sdague: np | 13:24 |
| alex_xu | so anything more? | 13:26 |
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| sdague | not from me | 13:27 |
| gmann | nothing from my side | 13:27 |
| sdague | I guess we should just take a look through - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=api and figure out if there are issues we should land for the release | 13:27 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347544/3 is a pretty easy one | 13:27 |
| alex_xu | sdague: yea, agree | 13:28 |
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| gmann | that is nice | 13:28 |
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| alex_xu | ok, I guess that is all for today | 13:29 |
| alex_xu | thanks all! let us back to work | 13:29 |
| alex_xu | #endmeeting | 13:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 7 13:30:04 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-09-07-13.00.html | 13:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-09-07-13.00.txt | 13:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-09-07-13.00.log.html | 13:30 |
| gmann | Thanks alex_xu | 13:30 |
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| acabot | #startmeeting watcher | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 7 14:00:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is acabot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'watcher' | 14:00 |
| sballe_ | o/ | 14:00 |
| acabot | hi | 14:00 |
| hanrong1 | hi | 14:00 |
| acabot | packed agenda today :-) #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#09.2F07.2F2016 | 14:00 |
| hanrong1 | Jinquan's right hand was broken, and he couldn't attend the meeting for two weeks. | 14:00 |
| tkaczynski | hi | 14:00 |
| acabot | hanrong1 : ok thx for leeting us know | 14:01 |
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| hanrong1 | :) | 14:01 |
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| dtardivel | hi | 14:01 |
| jwcroppe | o/ | 14:01 |
| acabot | #topic Announcements | 14:01 |
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| vincentfrancoise | o/ | 14:01 |
| tamilhce | hi | 14:01 |
| alexchadin | hi | 14:02 |
| acabot | hi tamilhce, welcome | 14:02 |
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| acabot | #info PTL nominations will be held next week | 14:02 |
| acabot | #link https://governance.openstack.org/election/ | 14:02 |
| acabot | #info candidacy must be submitted through Gerrit | 14:02 |
| acabot | #link https://governance.openstack.org/election/#how-to-submit-your-candidacy | 14:02 |
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| sballe_ | wow already. time flies | 14:02 |
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| mrhillsman | o/ | 14:03 |
| acabot | as some of you join late, here is the agenda again #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#09.2F07.2F2016 | 14:03 |
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| acabot | #info watcher 0.29.0, python-watcherclient 0.25.0 & watcher-dashboard 0.4.0 have been announced | 14:04 |
| acabot | all packages available on pypi | 14:04 |
| acabot | we just discovered there is something wrong with watcher-dashboard in devstack | 14:04 |
| acabot | we have to take a look | 14:05 |
| acabot | now we are waiting for the Newton branch | 14:05 |
| acabot | #info 3 patches are needed for Newton branch handled by dhellmann | 14:05 |
| acabot | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/102829.html | 14:05 |
| acabot | We need to confirm our speakers for Barcelona | 14:06 |
| acabot | sballe_ & hanrong1 confirmed last week | 14:06 |
| acabot | jwcroppe will you replace Taylor ? | 14:06 |
| acabot | or we can have someone from bcom | 14:06 |
| acabot | I also saw that sballe_ is working on slides already | 14:07 |
| * dtardivel test | 14:08 | |
| sballe_ | yes | 14:08 |
| * acabot is waiting for answers...:-) | 14:08 | |
| sballe_ | jwcroppe: ? | 14:08 |
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| acabot | #action acabot open a thread on the ML to discuss talk for Barcelona | 14:09 |
| acabot | #info Project Teams Gathering will be held in Atlanta Feb 20-24, 2017 | 14:09 |
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| acabot | next mid-cycle will be replaced by the PTG | 14:09 |
| sballe_ | I liked it better when we were organizing the meetup. We could choose location and dates | 14:10 |
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| acabot | I do agree but it will be a lot easier to have cross projects discussions | 14:10 |
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| acabot | so if you plan to attend our next mid-cycle, keep Feb 20-24 clear | 14:11 |
| acabot | any other announcement ? | 14:11 |
| acabot | #topic Review Action Items | 14:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 14:11 | |
| acabot | specs | 14:11 |
| acabot | Resize instance base on workload should be retargeted to Ocata | 14:11 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/359690/ | 14:12 |
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| acabot | #action jinquan retarget https://review.openstack.org/#/c/359690/ | 14:12 |
| acabot | Limit concurrent actions invoked by Watcher needs reviews | 14:12 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348049/ | 14:12 |
| jwcroppe | acabot, sballe_: in short-term it's looking unlikely to have an official replacement | 14:12 |
| jwcroppe | acabot: Re: that spec - thanks. Been out there a few weeks now | 14:12 |
| acabot | jwcroppe : ok but we are not talking about code but speaking at the summit ;-) | 14:13 |
| acabot | #action jwcroppe answer comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348049/ | 14:13 |
| jwcroppe | acabot: oh, in that case - yes - I'll cover that talk with the team :) | 14:13 |
| acabot | jwcroppe : ok thx | 14:14 |
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| jwcroppe | acabot: will push the spec for Ocata and address comments today | 14:14 |
| acabot | #action jwcroppe hanrong1 sballe_ acabot prepare talk for Barcelona summit | 14:14 |
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| acabot | ok | 14:14 |
| diga | Hi | 14:14 |
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| acabot | diga : welcome we were talking about your spec :-) | 14:15 |
| diga | sorry, got late due to traffic jam | 14:15 |
| diga | :) | 14:15 |
| acabot | automatic triggering audit needs reviews | 14:15 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342473/ | 14:15 |
| diga | yes | 14:15 |
| acabot | actually now it needs a new PS | 14:15 |
| diga | okay | 14:15 |
| acabot | #action diga add a PS for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342473/ | 14:15 |
| acabot | moving to Watcher | 14:16 |
| acabot | Graph cluster model implementation needs discussion regarding Heat | 14:16 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362730/ | 14:16 |
| acabot | sballe_ : do you think we can have a discussion with Greg ? | 14:16 |
| diga | acabot: Actually I didn't get vincentfrancoise comments on having RPC over notification | 14:16 |
| acabot | he didn't mention Heat in the spec and he is using it in his code | 14:17 |
| sballe_ | acabot: yes | 14:17 |
| acabot | its surprising | 14:17 |
| sballe_ | Greg was suppose to be inthe IRC meeting | 14:17 |
| sballe_ | I agree | 14:17 |
| acabot | ok could you set up an adhoc meeting with him ? | 14:18 |
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| sballe_ | yes. will do | 14:18 |
| acabot | #action sballe_ set up a meeting with Greg to discuss https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362730/ | 14:18 |
| sballe_ | give me an action to do so and I will remember | 14:18 |
| acabot | Add documentation for Scoring Module should be merged before branching | 14:18 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362827/ | 14:18 |
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| vincentfrancoise | diga: thw way action plans are currently triggered is via an RPC call that is sent from the watcher API to the watcher Applier when someone sends a request to trigger the execution of an action plan | 14:18 |
| acabot | as the feature is included in Newton, I would like to have it merged asap | 14:19 |
| diga | vincentfrancoise: got it | 14:19 |
| acabot | tkaczynski : thx for being reactive | 14:19 |
| vincentfrancoise | diga: my point is that we should the same underlying mechanism (i.e. the RPC call) but from within the Decision Engine when we want to do our automatic triggering of our action plan | 14:19 |
| acabot | does any core can have a final look at it ? | 14:19 |
| tkaczynski | acabot: no problem, cleaning my garden :) | 14:20 |
| diga | vincentfrancoise: okay | 14:20 |
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| vincentfrancoise | acabot: I +2'd it already | 14:20 |
| dtardivel | acabot: I will do | 14:21 |
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| acabot | #action dtardivel review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362827/ | 14:21 |
| diga | vincentfrancoise: will rework on my patch & incorporate suggested changes | 14:21 |
| alexchadin | acabot: I've already reviewed it twice | 14:21 |
| acabot | ok you already W+1 :-D | 14:22 |
| acabot | #undo | 14:22 |
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| acabot | thx | 14:22 |
| acabot | Add rally-jobs folder to get rally support needs a doc addition | 14:22 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333371/ | 14:22 |
| acabot | alexchadin : could you add a link from watcher doc in your PS ? | 14:22 |
| alexchadin | acabot: what do you mean? | 14:23 |
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| acabot | we discussed it last week, we need to add a Rally item on http://docs.openstack.org/developer/watcher/ | 14:24 |
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| alexchadin | acabot: ah, I remember it. Do I need to add new section here? | 14:24 |
| alexchadin | Related to the rally tests? | 14:25 |
| acabot | yes just saying that Watcher support rally and devs can use it | 14:25 |
| alexchadin | I will discuss it with dtardivel then | 14:25 |
| alexchadin | ok, will do by EOW | 14:26 |
| dtardivel | alexchadin: I can help u .... | 14:26 |
| acabot | #action alexchadin add a doc section for Rally | 14:26 |
| acabot | Implemented GMR plugin to show CDM structures is needed for scalability tests | 14:26 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366032/ | 14:26 |
| acabot | so we need reviews on this | 14:26 |
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| sballe_ | I'll do it | 14:26 |
| acabot | who wants to review it ? | 14:26 |
| dtardivel | acabot: I'm reviewing it | 14:27 |
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| acabot | #action sballe_ dtardivel review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366032/ | 14:27 |
| acabot | #topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion | 14:27 |
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| acabot | #info Current milestone is Newton-rc1 due September 12th - only one BP (scalability tests) & bug fixes | 14:27 |
| acabot | #link https://launchpad.net/watcher/+milestone/newton-rc1 | 14:27 |
| acabot | When the action plan is empty, it's state is incorrect needs discussion | 14:28 |
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| acabot | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/watcher/+bug/1619155 | 14:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1619155 in watcher "When the action plan is empty, it's state is incorrect " [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to licanwei (li-canwei2) | 14:28 |
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| acabot | as a reminder, if you file a bug, please wait for triage before fixing it | 14:29 |
| acabot | we are doing bug triage periodicaly | 14:29 |
| hanrong1 | I will tell him | 14:29 |
| sballe_ | I was just going to ask.. I have seen several submittion and I wasn't sure if they had been triaged | 14:29 |
| acabot | so the bug is related to the state of the action plan when there is no action to execute | 14:30 |
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| acabot | I dont think in this case it must be in "Failed" state | 14:30 |
| gzhai | acabot:+1 | 14:31 |
| vincentfrancoise | regarding this bug, I agree that the RECOMMENDED state isn't great, but IMHO it should be either SUCCEEDED or CANCELLED | 14:31 |
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| acabot | IMHO it should be SUCCEEDED as the infra is already optimized | 14:31 |
| alexchadin | great work:D | 14:31 |
| vincentfrancoise | acabot: +1 | 14:31 |
| acabot | and CANCELED would look like an error | 14:31 |
| sballe_ | acabot: +1 | 14:32 |
| acabot | what do you think ? | 14:32 |
| alexchadin | +1 for SUCCEEDED | 14:32 |
| hanrong1 | SUCCEEDED +1 | 14:32 |
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| dtardivel | SUCCEEDED +1 | 14:32 |
| acabot | hanrong1 : if you know licanwei, can you share this discussion with him ? | 14:33 |
| acabot | I think we can go for SUCCEEDED | 14:33 |
| hanrong1 | yes, I will | 14:33 |
| acabot | #action acabot update https://bugs.launchpad.net/watcher/+bug/1619155 to set a SUCCEEDED state | 14:34 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1619155 in watcher "When the action plan is empty, it's state is incorrect " [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to licanwei (li-canwei2) | 14:34 |
| acabot | dependency to discuss between Limit Concurrent Actions & Improve the storage of the ActionPlan | 14:34 |
| acabot | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/limit-concurrent-actions | 14:34 |
| acabot | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/planner-storage-action-plan | 14:34 |
| acabot | alexchadin : you wanted to discuss it ? | 14:34 |
| alexchadin | acabot: yeap | 14:34 |
| jwcroppe | alexchadin: ok, cool | 14:35 |
| alexchadin | for now we have graph algorithm that launches action in order, right? | 14:35 |
| jwcroppe | right | 14:36 |
| alexchadin | It's made using TaskFlow | 14:36 |
| dtardivel | alexchadin: It's just a linked action chain for now. But we use taskflow which support graph | 14:36 |
| jwcroppe | i.e., 1 at a time | 14:36 |
| acabot | I think its useless to handle a limit of concurrent actions in the current state of Watcher as there is only one action at a time | 14:37 |
| acabot | I know that Taskflow can handle it but we dont do it yet | 14:38 |
| alexchadin | ok, with my approach to the limiting of actions we don't have a dependency on planner-storage-action-plan | 14:38 |
| acabot | thats the main idea of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/planner-storage-action-plan | 14:38 |
| jwcroppe | acabot: +1 given its current state - this came up at the mid-cycle | 14:38 |
| sballe_ | acabot: +1 | 14:39 |
| acabot | alexchadin : what do you mean by "your approach" ? | 14:39 |
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| jwcroppe | acabot: once https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/planner-storage-action-plan is implemented, then we have a need for the limiter spec | 14:40 |
| alexchadin | I propose to check count of active actions by using class argument | 14:40 |
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| alexchadin | static argument, that will be personal for each kind of action (nop, migration, powering off, etc) | 14:40 |
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| alexchadin | no matter in which order we will launch it | 14:41 |
| alexchadin | them* | 14:41 |
| acabot | alexchadin : ok but in this case its pretty far from what jwcroppe proposed as a spec | 14:41 |
| jwcroppe | alexchadin: btw, I replied to your comment in the spec ... the idea was that you could also have different limits for different audits/scopes | 14:41 |
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| alexchadin | I think, we could have pre-defined limits in configuration file for each kind of actions | 14:42 |
| jwcroppe | alexchadin: will you be @ the summit? | 14:42 |
| alexchadin | jwcroppe: yeap:) | 14:42 |
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| acabot | alexchadin : could you please iterate on jwcroppe spec ? | 14:43 |
| jwcroppe | alexchadin: cool - let's iterate there as well. there are many ways we can tackle this | 14:43 |
| alexchadin | acabot: yes, I will try to introduce my vision of this spec in near future | 14:43 |
| alexchadin | is it ok? | 14:43 |
| acabot | please work together on work items because I think you both have quite a different view | 14:43 |
| jwcroppe | acabot: +1 ... let's iterate on some ideas in the spec and if we're still back and forth we can whiteboard in Spain | 14:43 |
| acabot | cool | 14:44 |
| alexchadin | +1 | 14:44 |
| acabot | #action jwcroppe alexchadin iterate on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348049/1/specs/newton/approved/limit-concurrent-actions.rst | 14:44 |
| jwcroppe | alexchadin: feel free to create a new spec as well if you'd like and we can compare/contrast - or even form a hybrid | 14:44 |
| acabot | #topic Open discussions | 14:44 |
| alexchadin | jwcroppe: sure, thank you! | 14:44 |
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| jwcroppe | I'm happy to adapt my spec to pick up on the elements that yours captures... ok great | 14:45 |
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| acabot | Platform status for scalability tests | 14:45 |
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| acabot | sballe_ gzhai : can I let you give a status ? | 14:45 |
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| sballe_ | acabot: I am having issue with IRC | 14:45 |
| acabot | to put everybody on the same page, I tried to summerize it in https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1I6OPqUXDfB2BbcI3Zr0625mb92N-UaPY8YNhgmjkLts/edit?usp=sharing | 14:46 |
| sballe_ | gzhai: can you give the update? | 14:46 |
| acabot | please use animations if you want to have something readable :-D | 14:46 |
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| sballe_ | ok I can try. The systems are up and the base OpenStack has been installed, today the team will install Monasca, ceilosca | 14:47 |
| sballe_ | and Watcher | 14:47 |
| sballe_ | gzhai is running some tests with PBK | 14:47 |
| gzhai | the container exit and I can't get the log | 14:47 |
| sballe_ | We are still working out the details with dtardivel and his scripts apparently ;-) | 14:48 |
| dtardivel | gzhai: if the container aborted, normaly you can get logs: docker pkb logs | 14:49 |
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| acabot | gzhai : could you copy paste the output after running "pkb" ? | 14:50 |
| acabot | we can deal with that on our IRC channel | 14:50 |
| dtardivel | acabot: maybe on openstack-watcher channel | 14:51 |
| acabot | any other topic to discuss ? | 14:51 |
| gzhai | Will VM exit after running benchmark? | 14:51 |
| dtardivel | gzhai: yes | 14:51 |
| acabot | tamilhce mrhillsman : do you want to introduce yourself ? | 14:51 |
| tamilhce | yeah iam tamil vanan | 14:52 |
| tamilhce | new to penstack contribution | 14:52 |
| tamilhce | *openstack | 14:52 |
| acabot | ok thats great, for which company are you working ? | 14:52 |
| tamilhce | i work for a startup | 14:53 |
| tamilhce | i could see some issues in heat docs | 14:54 |
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| tamilhce | reg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1618802 | 14:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1618802 in heat "[devref] handle_signal is not documented" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to tamil vanan (tamilhce) | 14:54 |
| acabot | tamilhce : any specific interest in Watcher ? | 14:54 |
| acabot | I mean doc, code, specs, tests ? | 14:54 |
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| tamilhce | i am interested in code | 14:55 |
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| acabot | ok great, in this case you are more than welcome to start with bugs | 14:56 |
| acabot | we have low-hanging-fruits bugs | 14:56 |
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| acabot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/watcher/+bugs?field.tag=low-hanging-fruit | 14:56 |
| mrhillsman | mrhillsman | 14:56 |
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| mrhillsman | openstack innovation center - ops team lead | 14:56 |
| acabot | currently only one ;-) | 14:56 |
| mrhillsman | rackspace/intel collaboration | 14:57 |
| acabot | mrhillsman : ok thx for the intro | 14:57 |
| acabot | mrhillsman : we asked OSIC for a test infra a couple of months ago but we didn't get any answer | 14:57 |
| acabot | mrhillsman : we finally managed to get a test infra at Intel | 14:58 |
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| mrhillsman | we can dialogue further about it | 14:58 |
| mrhillsman | oh | 14:58 |
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| mrhillsman | you all went through the online forme? | 14:58 |
| mrhillsman | form? | 14:58 |
| acabot | yes | 14:58 |
| acabot | I received an email confirmation | 14:58 |
| acabot | but no news after | 14:58 |
| mrhillsman | ok, if you want to discuss further we can do so offline | 14:58 |
| sballe_ | yes and Leong couldn;'d find it :-( | 14:58 |
| mrhillsman | meh | 14:59 |
| sballe_ | mrhillsman: are you from rackSpace or Intel? | 14:59 |
| mrhillsman | Rackspace side | 14:59 |
| sballe_ | Oh I see now Intel. Welcome :-) | 14:59 |
| acabot | I have to close the meeting, sorry guys | 14:59 |
| acabot | thank you | 14:59 |
| sballe_ | ok np. bye | 14:59 |
| mrhillsman | mrhillsman@gmail.com | 14:59 |
| dtardivel | bye | 15:00 |
| acabot | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| mrhillsman | l8r | 15:00 |
| alexchadin | bye | 15:00 |
| vincentfrancoise | bye | 15:00 |
| gzhai | bye | 15:00 |
| tri2sing | bye | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 7 15:00:02 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-09-07-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-09-07-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-09-07-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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| serverascode | #startmeeting operators_telco_nfv | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 7 15:00:45 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is serverascode. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'operators_telco_nfv' | 15:00 |
| serverascode | #topic roll call | 15:01 |
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| serverascode | anyone here for the operators telecom/nfv meeting? | 15:01 |
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| serverascode | I'll give it a couple minutes :) | 15:02 |
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| * PerfectChaos waves | 15:03 | |
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| serverascode | PerfectChaos: hi! | 15:03 |
| PerfectChaos | Hello~ | 15:04 |
| serverascode | ok I'm just going to start going through some items to get them into the minutes :) | 15:04 |
| serverascode | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-telco-nfv-meeting-agenda | 15:04 |
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| serverascode | if anyone is lurking and has some additional topics feel free to add them | 15:04 |
| serverascode | first up, Barcelona | 15:04 |
| serverascode | #topic Barcelona Summit | 15:04 |
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| serverascode | I did submit a request for space at the Barcelona summit, so we will see if they provide us with some | 15:05 |
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| serverascode | anyone here going to Barcelona for the summit? | 15:05 |
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| serverascode | we are currently listed on the wiki for working group / teams | 15:06 |
| serverascode | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/UserCommittee | 15:06 |
| serverascode | I see a couple of +1s in the agenda which suggests some people are going | 15:06 |
| PerfectChaos | It looks as though I am. I was one of those +1s. | 15:06 |
| serverascode | ah, great | 15:07 |
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| serverascode | I think we will have some space for a meeting, but haven't gotten official word yet | 15:07 |
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| serverascode | I don't have anything else on Barcelona right now | 15:07 |
| PerfectChaos | Let's hope so. | 15:08 |
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| serverascode | do you have anything you want me to look into for Barcelona? | 15:08 |
| PerfectChaos | It feels like until we actively start doing more things, the in-person meetings are going to be a lot more active than these | 15:08 |
| serverascode | I agree | 15:08 |
| PerfectChaos | so it'll hopefully be a good way of getting more awareness out and getting more external input into things. | 15:09 |
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| serverascode | ok onto the next topic then | 15:10 |
| serverascode | #topic Ironic RFE for ONIE | 15:10 |
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| serverascode | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1618195 | 15:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1618195 in Ironic "Ironic feature to manage network hardware" [Undecided,New] | 15:10 |
| serverascode | At the ops midcycle there was an ironic session, and I mentioned the feature to manage netowrk gear, perhaps with onie | 15:10 |
| serverascode | #link http://onie.org/ | 15:11 |
| serverascode | most whitebox switches use onie to load up a network operating system, and it would be cool if ironic could manage that | 15:11 |
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| serverascode | I don't know if that is something this team would like to work on, but it's a possiblitiyt | 15:11 |
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| serverascode | so I put in a "request for enhancement" for ironic | 15:12 |
| PerfectChaos | That sounds like a neat idea. | 15:12 |
| serverascode | the ironic PTL at the midcycle sounded interested | 15:13 |
| PerfectChaos | Would that really fall until "enhancement for Ironic" scope, though? It sounds like it has the potential to be its own component | 15:13 |
| PerfectChaos | cf. Nova for compute, Neutron for network | 15:13 |
| serverascode | so like it's own project? | 15:14 |
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| PerfectChaos | Potentially | 15:14 |
| serverascode | ok, yeah that's interesting | 15:15 |
| serverascode | potentially something to discuss in depth at barcelona? | 15:15 |
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| PerfectChaos | Sounds like a plan. | 15:16 |
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| serverascode | #agreed Discuss managing network gear with OpenStack, potentially Ironic | 15:18 |
| serverascode | ok, onto the next topic | 15:18 |
| serverascode | #topic NYC Ops Midcycle | 15:18 |
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| serverascode | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NYC-ops-Telecom-NFV | 15:18 |
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| serverascode | we had a telecom/NFV session at the ops midcycle, and 18 ppl show up | 15:18 |
| serverascode | which was waaay more than I was expecting | 15:19 |
| serverascode | about 12 people self-identified as mostly wondering what NFV is and how it relates to OpenStack | 15:19 |
| serverascode | so it kind of ended up being an intro session, which was fine | 15:19 |
| serverascode | there was a security group bug which a lot of people knew about, let me find it | 15:20 |
| serverascode | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1175464 | 15:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1175464 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "should not add default security group to quantum unless api-request had it" [High,In progress] - Assigned to sahid (sahid-ferdjaoui) | 15:20 |
| serverascode | it's been around since 2013 and was only recently fixed, it's around turning off port security | 15:20 |
| serverascode | any questions on the ops midcycle? that's about all I have for it | 15:21 |
| PerfectChaos | Ah yes, I'm familiar with that one. | 15:21 |
| serverascode | lol, amazing how many people know about it | 15:22 |
| serverascode | oh, and there was some discussion regarding the OPNFV doctor project in the session on compute node failure | 15:23 |
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| serverascode | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1175464 | 15:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1175464 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "should not add default security group to quantum unless api-request had it" [High,In progress] - Assigned to sahid (sahid-ferdjaoui) | 15:23 |
| serverascode | darn wrong link | 15:23 |
| serverascode | #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/doctor/Doctor+Home | 15:23 |
| PerfectChaos | I'm a little surprised that 2/3 of the room didn't know what NFV is, given the increasing focus it's had in recent summits... | 15:23 |
| serverascode | PerfectChaos: there were not many telecoms at the midcycle. Cable companies as usual were there though, Comcast, Charter. They are doing NFV related work. | 15:24 |
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| * PerfectChaos nods | 15:24 | |
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| serverascode | I'm not too sure what other telecoms where there...NTT was | 15:25 |
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| serverascode | other than that... | 15:25 |
| PerfectChaos | I guess that's less likely to happen at the summit. | 15:25 |
| serverascode | yes there will be lots of telecoms there for sure | 15:25 |
| serverascode | there are two NFV tracks this year | 15:25 |
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| PerfectChaos | Which is probably just as well, since as you say, an intro session is fine but if we want to help improve the landscape for people using NFV it'll be more useful if we can hear from people who are actively working with NFV | 15:26 |
| serverascode | right | 15:26 |
| serverascode | ok the only other thing I was going to mention was the Verizon paper | 15:27 |
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| serverascode | #topic Verizon paper | 15:27 |
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| serverascode | #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/doctor/Doctor+Home | 15:27 |
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| serverascode | one more time | 15:28 |
| serverascode | #link http://innovation.verizon.com/content/dam/vic/PDF/Verizon_SDN-NFV_Reference_Architecture.pdf | 15:28 |
| serverascode | I read through it, quite extensive | 15:28 |
| serverascode | not sure if perhaps there is something our working group can do with that paper, but it's interesting | 15:28 |
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| PerfectChaos | I've only had chance to vaguely skim that thusfar. You're right in that it's interesting, though there's a lot to take in. | 15:30 |
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| serverascode | right, and quite different, at least in style/tone as compared to the ATT ecomp paper | 15:31 |
| serverascode | #link http://about.att.com/content/dam/snrdocs/ecomp.pdf | 15:31 |
| PerfectChaos | And unless there's something specific covered there which has particular expectations which OpenStack doesn't meet, I think our group wouldn't really have anything to focus on? | 15:31 |
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| serverascode | right, yeah, it's hard to determine boundaries between OpenStack and a complete telecom NFV system, which is huge and all ecompassing | 15:32 |
| serverascode | I think SDN is still a big area of overlap | 15:33 |
| PerfectChaos | The impression I got from my earlier skim through the Verizon paper was that it was more accounting for OpenStack's capabilities, rather than highlighting anything which it needs | 15:33 |
| PerfectChaos | ...though I'll admit this was very much a quick skim through, so I am likely to have missed it if it does. | 15:33 |
| serverascode | I'd have to look again, but I don't recall any major features desired | 15:34 |
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| serverascode | there was one area, the PIM, I think physical infrastructure manager, which could apply to OpenStack related projects | 15:34 |
| serverascode | because apparently PIMs don't really exist yet | 15:35 |
| serverascode | or haven't been properly defined | 15:35 |
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| serverascode | but that could relate to Ironic, or perhaps the new Craton project for fleet management | 15:35 |
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| serverascode | "ETSI NFV defines VIM but does not define PIM, which is an important functional block." pg. 21 | 15:37 |
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| serverascode | ok, onto open discussion :) | 15:39 |
| serverascode | #topic Open Discussion | 15:39 |
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| serverascode | anyone lurking? :) PerfectChaos have any other thoughts, ideas? | 15:40 |
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| PerfectChaos | Can't say I do for now. | 15:41 |
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| serverascode | ok I'll leave it open for a couple min but otherwise I don't have anything else | 15:41 |
| serverascode | thanks for coming PerfectChaos :) much appreciated | 15:41 |
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| PerfectChaos | No problem. Thanks for all of your continuing efforts. | 15:43 |
| PerfectChaos | Hopefully once we get started on doing some things we'll get a bit more traction. | 15:43 |
| serverascode | yeah for sure, Barcelona should help | 15:44 |
| serverascode | ok, I will end the meeting | 15:44 |
| serverascode | #endmeeting | 15:44 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 7 15:44:52 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_telco_nfv/2016/operators_telco_nfv.2016-09-07-15.00.html | 15:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_telco_nfv/2016/operators_telco_nfv.2016-09-07-15.00.txt | 15:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_telco_nfv/2016/operators_telco_nfv.2016-09-07-15.00.log.html | 15:44 |
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| inc0 | #startmeeting kolla | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 7 16:00:37 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is inc0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 16:00 |
| inc0 | #topic rollcall | 16:00 |
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| inc0 | show of hands please | 16:00 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | \0/ | 16:00 |
| duonghq | o/ | 16:00 |
| egonzalez90 | hi o/ | 16:00 |
| berendt | o/ | 16:00 |
| hrito | o/ | 16:01 |
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| wirehead_ | \m/ | 16:01 |
| vhosakot | o/ | 16:01 |
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| mandre | ola | 16:01 |
| inc0 | #topic announcements | 16:01 |
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| inc0 | rc1 is coming live next week, after that only bugfixed happen | 16:02 |
| berendt | we deprecate debian and fedora | 16:02 |
| inc0 | we will probably also work on kolla-ansible split, I'll start new vote on ML | 16:02 |
| inc0 | to double confirm that core team is on board | 16:02 |
| akwasnie | hi :) | 16:03 |
| inc0 | any community announcements? | 16:03 |
| coolsvap | o/ | 16:03 |
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| inc0 | #topic rc1 | 16:03 |
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| inc0 | ok so rc1 means hard feature freeze for us, after that no blueprint code will be merged, we'll move new features to Ocata | 16:04 |
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| pbourke | o/ | 16:04 |
| inc0 | and I would be extremaly glad if we focus on stability, testing and validation of stuff like upgrades | 16:04 |
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| janki | o/ | 16:05 |
| inc0 | since other projects will have their rc's already, we can validate upgrades and make sure they're perfect by Ocata, or at worst Ocata-1 | 16:05 |
| inc0 | any comments/questions? | 16:05 |
| berendt | do we have a test plan? | 16:06 |
| berendt | if not we should create one to be sure that everything is working like expected, at least for the core components | 16:07 |
| inc0 | well, nothing concrete, we can work a bit later in this meeting to brainstorm cases we want to have tested | 16:07 |
| inc0 | good call berendt, I'll make sure to spend time on this later on | 16:07 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | we have much scenario deploy now. maybe we should assign those to someone directly to make sure it works. | 16:08 |
| zhubingbing | i agree Jeffrey | 16:08 |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l_, I'd rather ask for volunteers, but we need more tests, mostly around upgrades I'd say | 16:08 |
| inc0 | we promised that kolla will upgrade seamlessly and we should make sure that's the case:) | 16:09 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | like ironic? new added roles. | 16:09 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | they all need be well tested, if we can get more volunteers. | 16:09 |
| inc0 | agree | 16:10 |
| berendt | we need functional tests for all roles and upgrade tests for all roles that exists in newton | 16:10 |
| berendt | on a distributions that are not deprecated | 16:10 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | yes. more gate is best. | 16:10 |
| egonzalez90 | agree, something like RDO do: https://www.rdoproject.org/testday/newton/testedsetups3/ | 16:10 |
| inc0 | I don't think we can bet on gates now, this should be one of first things in ocata | 16:10 |
| inc0 | good resource egonzalez90, thanks | 16:11 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | inc0, yes. let's focus on the current work. | 16:11 |
| berendt | prioritiy change of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/multinode-gate to high? | 16:11 |
| berendt | and goal to o release? | 16:11 |
| inc0 | I would start by validating that every new service is present in reno release notes | 16:12 |
| inc0 | after that we can use this to prep proper test plan | 16:12 |
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| Jeffrey4l_ | berendt, yes | 16:12 |
| inc0 | issue with multinode gate is that we're constrained by infra | 16:12 |
| berendt | done | 16:12 |
| berendt | what about a 3rd party? would this be possible? | 16:13 |
| inc0 | but let's not talk about gates now, we'll have proper session in summit afair | 16:13 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | multinode should be possible now ( only one controller ) | 16:13 |
| inc0 | berendt, if some gracious company donates hardware | 16:13 |
| berendt | some bigger companies are working with kolla, we should ask them | 16:14 |
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| inc0 | yeah, let's make it a point in summit | 16:14 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | let's move on about the validating | 16:14 |
| inc0 | agree | 16:14 |
| inc0 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-n-validation | 16:14 |
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| inc0 | timeslot: 10min - till :25 | 16:15 |
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| Jeffrey4l_ | so 1. collect all the service need to verify 2. work out some scenario to test 3. need some volunteer to token the scenario and report the test result. | 16:15 |
| berendt | inc0 what means "compute kit"? | 16:16 |
| vhosakot | be | 16:16 |
| vhosakot | berendt: "compute kit" means testing the code on OpenStack that boots and nova VM... it mainly tests nova, neutron and glance.. | 16:16 |
| inc0 | berendt, what you would call basic openstack deployment | 16:17 |
| sean-k-mooney | inc0: in this case are we specificly refering to the default kolla install when we say "compute kit" | 16:18 |
| inc0 | sean-k-mooney, I'd say default + cinder | 16:19 |
| inc0 | however don't let it stop you from creating different test scenerios | 16:19 |
| inc0 | we need to test as much as we can, but this *has to work 100 out of 100* | 16:19 |
| inc0 | t-5min | 16:20 |
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| berendt | what about smaller features like fernet tokens? | 16:23 |
| inc0 | it's not small | 16:23 |
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| inc0 | and yes, we need this test too | 16:24 |
| berendt | yes, not really :) | 16:24 |
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| inc0 | ok, time's up, we'll get back to it next week | 16:24 |
| inc0 | as still RC1 is being merged | 16:24 |
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| inc0 | #topic summit sessions | 16:25 |
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| berendt | i will try to prepare a test matrix over the weekend | 16:25 |
| inc0 | thank you berendt | 16:25 |
| inc0 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-O-summit-planning | 16:25 |
| inc0 | I'll need to double check with sdake what's the status of this | 16:26 |
| berendt | i thought we finished the session planning last meeting? | 16:26 |
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| inc0 | but while we need to provide space requirements, we can change topics till last minute | 16:26 |
| inc0 | yes, I just want us to take another look if anything is missing or wrong | 16:26 |
| inc0 | ok, I guess that's on me to double check with him | 16:28 |
| inc0 | #topic kolla-kubernetes | 16:28 |
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| inc0 | anything you want to talk about kfox1111 and others? (seems we don't have much kolla k8s folks around) | 16:29 |
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| inc0 | guess not | 16:30 |
| inc0 | #topic open discussion | 16:30 |
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| inc0 | soo, any pressing issues you guys have? | 16:30 |
| duonghq | this meeting is quite fast, huh? | 16:30 |
| berendt | not from my site, we already discussed the deprecation stuff before the meeting | 16:31 |
| inc0 | yeah, attendance wasn't great | 16:31 |
| zhubingbing | - - | 16:31 |
| inc0 | but that's the true before rc's | 16:31 |
| duonghq | for the k8s: I think we do not have much work for newton? | 16:31 |
| inc0 | we all know what we want to push forward | 16:31 |
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| duonghq | just begining phase? | 16:31 |
| inc0 | duonghq, k8s doesn't *really* follow our rc policy yet | 16:31 |
| inc0 | we don't want to freeze or whatever code there | 16:31 |
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| duonghq | I knew that, | 16:32 |
| inc0 | that will start next release I guess | 16:32 |
| berendt | will there be a kolla-k8s release? | 16:32 |
| wirehead_ | Yeah. I mean, we’re kind abound by the other stabalization concerns given we’re joined at the hip. | 16:32 |
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| sean-k-mooney | inc0: i guess it does not make sense to follow the release-with-milestones-trailing process until they have there 1.0 release | 16:32 |
| duonghq | IMO, a kolla-k8s release is not a good idea atm | 16:32 |
| inc0 | berendt, I don't think kolla-k8s is ready for 1.0 yet, am I correct wirehead_ kfox1111 ? | 16:33 |
| wirehead_ | Naw. | 16:33 |
| berendt | than we do not have to take care of tests for k8s.. | 16:33 |
| sdake | oh snap completely missed the meeting | 16:33 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | release 0.1 version ? | 16:33 |
| inc0 | lol sdake | 16:33 |
| sdake | where was the notification ;) | 16:33 |
| sdake | sorry - i am of a day on my schedule | 16:33 |
| berendt | are there any news about the report from the OSCI tests? | 16:33 |
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| sdake | because of labor day | 16:33 |
| wirehead_ | Well, I’m not a real big fan of having twice-yearly releases. | 16:33 |
| inc0 | not a problem sdake, we're almost done anyway | 16:34 |
| sdake | wirehead_ we can release k8s whenever we want | 16:34 |
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| inc0 | wirehead_, well, tough luck, you guys are OpenStack, that means we'll follow this cycle | 16:34 |
| sdake | wirehead_ but once we cut 1.0.0 its 6 month releasecycle | 16:34 |
| wirehead_ | At this stage of the game, we could tag a ‘0.1’ that represents the current ‘hey, folks Nova works’ but otherwise, not too useful. | 16:34 |
| inc0 | after we're done with first one | 16:34 |
| wirehead_ | Yeah. | 16:34 |
| sdake | inc0 we are on a a release__independent cycle | 16:34 |
| sdake | with k8s | 16:34 |
| inc0 | yeah, until 1.0 we can do whatever | 16:35 |
| sdake | wirehead_ thta has already beeen done - but not with the nova stuff | 16:35 |
| inc0 | but after 1.0 we will follow normal cycle | 16:35 |
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| sdake | trailing cycle that is | 16:35 |
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| inc0 | well, same thing as kolla, so yes | 16:35 |
| inc0 | trailing | 16:35 |
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| inc0 | at the end I would be super happy if we synch release of all our projects | 16:36 |
| inc0 | otherwise we'll be in dependency hell | 16:36 |
| duonghq | agree with inc0 | 16:36 |
| sdake | inc0 on ecomment from above | 16:36 |
| sdake | occata-1 is not a deadline for us for newton | 16:37 |
| sdake | we need to finish by the release_cycle trailing schedule | 16:37 |
| sdake | which is 2 weeks after the server projeects release their x release | 16:37 |
| inc0 | yeah, I agree, but what I meant is people will normally start upgrading after o-1 | 16:37 |
| inc0 | so we need to make damn sure it's all good by then | 16:37 |
| sdake | right | 16:38 |
| inc0 | I think it's about 1month after release itself | 16:38 |
| inc0 | so we'll have stable releases of services by then | 16:38 |
| inc0 | ok, any other topic? | 16:38 |
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| inc0 | guess not, thank you folks:) | 16:39 |
| duonghq | thank you | 16:39 |
| inc0 | let's get back to making release great | 16:39 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | thanks guys. | 16:40 |
| inc0 | oh one request from my side | 16:40 |
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| inc0 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366230/ testing this including upgrade is super important | 16:40 |
| inc0 | so if someone have some time in their disposal, I would greatly appreciate help | 16:40 |
| sdake | release cycles are 45 days | 16:40 |
| sdake | although ocata is a shortened schedule | 16:41 |
| sdake | inc0 Jeffrey4l_ already said he would test upgrade | 16:41 |
| inc0 | is it? | 16:41 |
| sdake | it is | 16:41 |
| sean-k-mooney | yes ocata will be 16 weeks or 4 months instead of 6 mounts | 16:41 |
| inc0 | sdake, yeah, but this needs as much testing as possible | 16:41 |
| inc0 | I'll test it too | 16:41 |
| sdake | cool | 16:41 |
| inc0 | but this is data consistency thing, critical | 16:41 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | ya. more test is better. | 16:42 |
| inc0 | especially that both me and Jeffrey generally run ubuntu | 16:42 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l_ runs centos | 16:42 |
| inc0 | ok, that's cool | 16:42 |
| inc0 | I'm not super familiar with selinux stuff and this is one thing that I'd be caucious about | 16:43 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | inc0, you will run ubuntu? | 16:43 |
| inc0 | yeah I'll test xenial | 16:43 |
| Jeffrey4l_ | cool | 16:43 |
| inc0 | allright | 16:43 |
| inc0 | thanks! | 16:43 |
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| inc0 | #endmeeting kolla | 16:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 7 16:43:42 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-09-07-16.00.html | 16:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-09-07-16.00.txt | 16:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-09-07-16.00.log.html | 16:43 |
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| wznoinsk | hi guys | 16:44 |
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