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nikhil | Courtesy meeting reminder on #openstack-meeting-4: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishek, bunting, dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat, aavraham, abashmak | 13:59 |
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nikhil | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
nikhil | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 25 14:00:07 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is nikhil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
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rosmaita | o/ | 14:00 |
abashmak | o/ | 14:00 |
raj_singh | o/ | 14:00 |
dharinic | o/ | 14:00 |
tsymanczyk | \o | 14:00 |
nikhil | let's get started | 14:00 |
hemanthm | o/ | 14:01 |
nikhil | #topic Updates (nikhil) | 14:01 |
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nikhil | #info Import Refactor updates | 14:01 |
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nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/glance+branch:master+topic:import-refactor-newton | 14:01 |
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nikhil | I pushed up this patch last evening | 14:02 |
nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270980/ | 14:02 |
nikhil | it's ready for review and based on them (whatever gaps of confusion are) I will keep updating the CM | 14:02 |
nikhil | This patch: | 14:02 |
nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/267209 | 14:02 |
nikhil | it needs a bit of work and I've got it wip | 14:02 |
nikhil | there needs to be a bunch of code removed and headers updated according to latest amendments done | 14:03 |
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nikhil | besides, I hope to push a clean set of PS for the rest of the direct streaming to "/stage" | 14:03 |
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nikhil | that's that from here, I can take questions | 14:04 |
nikhil | seems like none.. | 14:05 |
nikhil | moving on | 14:05 |
Jokke_ | o/ | 14:05 |
nikhil | #info v1 deprecation (nikhil) | 14:05 |
nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328390/ | 14:05 |
nikhil | I have a few comments inline | 14:05 |
nikhil | looks almost ready to go after that | 14:05 |
nikhil | let's get that sorted asap | 14:05 |
Jokke_ | ++ | 14:05 |
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nikhil | if I don't hear from Mike in next 2-4 hours, I will clean up that patch and post a clean commit for review | 14:06 |
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nikhil | #action all: please make it a priority to review v1 deprecation patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328390/ | 14:06 |
nikhil | There's some concerns on devstack testing on which I've left a comment up | 14:06 |
nikhil | ideally we'd have a spec up for discussion, so if time permits that will be up too | 14:07 |
Jokke_ | nikhil: I don't think it hurts to take that over. My comments have been unadressed for over month now | 14:07 |
Jokke_ | I seriously doubt few hours will do difference | 14:08 |
nikhil | cool | 14:08 |
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nikhil | Jokke_: I see, I just wanted to give a courtesy heads up from my end but I agree this one is too critical to wait | 14:08 |
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nikhil | any more comments/questions? | 14:09 |
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Jokke_ | just give us a ping when you have the new rev up | 14:09 |
nikhil | will do | 14:09 |
nikhil | #topic Important reviews for Newton (nikhil) | 14:09 |
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Jokke_ | lets get that fixed and merged | 14:09 |
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nikhil | I realized , now that we're pushing thing through the pipe near the release week there have been trivial changes proposed | 14:10 |
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nikhil | near to release week, that's a really bad idea | 14:10 |
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nikhil | it increases load on the gate and results into distraction for cores and waste of time | 14:10 |
nikhil | I have tried to clean up the gate to give cores more b/w to look into importatnt issues | 14:10 |
nikhil | especially many times when I needed second opinion | 14:11 |
nikhil | #info all: please do not encourage trivial fixes or review such at/near to release week | 14:11 |
nikhil | Also, last night I poked out a few stalling commits in the review queue | 14:12 |
nikhil | let me jot them down here and I highly encourage cores to review them | 14:12 |
nikhil | these all are release critical (Whether they make it or not) | 14:12 |
nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/270980 | 14:12 |
nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/328390 | 14:13 |
nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/272118 | 14:13 |
nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/324012 | 14:13 |
nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/313936 | 14:13 |
Jokke_ | nikhil: I can only speak on my on behalf, but feel free to highlight me on #os-glance for any urgent reviews | 14:13 |
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nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/352391 | 14:13 |
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nikhil | Jokke_: sure, will do | 14:14 |
rosmaita | nikhil: me too | 14:14 |
nikhil | thanks! | 14:14 |
nikhil | (these links are also for those who read back the meeting logs, so lemme add them here too) | 14:14 |
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nikhil | Also, one more important one: | 14:15 |
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nikhil | this lite spec for multi locations deprecation | 14:15 |
nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/360220 | 14:15 |
nikhil | and the review for removing downgrades: | 14:16 |
nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/229220 | 14:16 |
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nikhil | besides, we will have a few more import commits | 14:16 |
nikhil | that's all for now, if new things come up I will make sure to ping people | 14:16 |
nikhil | any comments/question? | 14:16 |
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rosmaita | should we -2 trivial stuff, saying "come back in 2 weeks"? | 14:17 |
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nikhil | rosmaita: totally, I just did one this morning! | 14:17 |
Jokke_ | nikhil: did you verify when the stable branch will be cut ... RC-2 is due two weeks after N-3 | 14:17 |
Jokke_ | ? | 14:17 |
nikhil | rosmaita: example one https://review.openstack.org/360372 | 14:17 |
Jokke_ | RC-1 even | 14:17 |
rosmaita | nikhil: i will follow your example | 14:18 |
nikhil | Jokke_: sorry, didn't get a chance this week. lemme put an action item on me | 14:18 |
nikhil | #action nikhil: verify the date when stable/newton is supposed to be cut | 14:18 |
nikhil | rosmaita: sorry, that may not be perfect example but I will add a comment elaborating on the same | 14:19 |
nikhil | for store related changes, here's a good example :) | 14:19 |
nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/357827 | 14:19 |
rosmaita | i meant follow in spirit, not exact syntax! | 14:19 |
rosmaita | ok | 14:19 |
nikhil | that one applied to client too | 14:19 |
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nikhil | rosmaita: thanks for taking the intent! | 14:20 |
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nikhil | #topic Release(s) (nikhil) | 14:21 |
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nikhil | we've store and client released to final newton versions | 14:21 |
nikhil | the u-c and g-r have been updated | 14:21 |
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Jokke_ | and no new breakages? | 14:22 |
nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/359559 | 14:22 |
nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/358263 | 14:22 |
nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/358391 | 14:22 |
nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/358262 | 14:22 |
nikhil | I have not heard for regressions until now | 14:22 |
nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/359511 | 14:22 |
Jokke_ | goodie | 14:23 |
nikhil | If you work in any other project that uses glanceclient | 14:23 |
nikhil | and the sync to requirements hasn't happened, please point out to the release liaison | 14:23 |
nikhil | let's make sure the client is tested in gate before assuming 2.5.0 is newton version | 14:24 |
Jokke_ | :) | 14:24 |
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Jokke_ | if the u-c is there, then it's used in gate | 14:24 |
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Jokke_ | regardless if it's updated to g-r or not | 14:25 |
nikhil | https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/upper-constraints.txt#L135 | 14:25 |
nikhil | https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/upper-constraints.txt#L284 | 14:25 |
nikhil | https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/global-requirements.txt#L53 | 14:25 |
nikhil | https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/global-requirements.txt#L195 | 14:25 |
nikhil | Please note the last link | 14:26 |
nikhil | I've set the client version to be >=2.3.0 | 14:26 |
nikhil | that means currently 2.3.0 and 2.5.0 is available for packagers to use for newton | 14:26 |
nikhil | tried to find a tradeoff for packagers and latest for gate | 14:26 |
nikhil | works, so kept it that way | 14:27 |
Jokke_ | why the minor got bumped if no features were introduced? | 14:27 |
nikhil | Also, for other types of priority items to review please see: | 14:27 |
nikhil | #link http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/release-management.html#release-candidate-period-release-3 | 14:27 |
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nikhil | Jokke_: release team wants requirements sync to have minor bumps | 14:28 |
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nikhil | also, our final release for a cycle needs to have minor bump so that we can keep a clean namespace for that cycle stable backports (2.5.0 for newton means 2.5.1 is next release for stable/newton etc.) | 14:29 |
Jokke_ | oh, we had requirement changes there, then we should up our requirement to 2.5.0 as well because that 2.3.0 won't likely match | 14:29 |
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nikhil | Jokke_: you mean, bump the g-r to have 2.5.0? | 14:30 |
Jokke_ | nikhil: stable can be cut and continued from patch release without problem ... like 2.4.7 if nothing else causes the ump | 14:30 |
Jokke_ | nikhil: yes | 14:30 |
Jokke_ | nikhil: so the lib requirements.txt is aligned with the release one | 14:31 |
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nikhil | Jokke_: only test-requirements were updated for 2.5.0 | 14:31 |
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nikhil | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357688/ | 14:31 |
Jokke_ | and 2.3->2.4? | 14:31 |
nikhil | Jokke_: so, I think we're okay | 14:31 |
Jokke_ | 2.4.0 is the ! release iirc? | 14:32 |
nikhil | Jokke_: yeah, you're right.. my bad I missed a couple other g-r sync from 2.3->2.5 | 14:32 |
nikhil | Jokke_: will propose a bump today | 14:32 |
nikhil | thanks! | 14:32 |
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Jokke_ | and if we bump to 2.5.0 we get rid of the !2.4.0 :) | 14:33 |
nikhil | totally | 14:33 |
Jokke_ | so everyone wins ;) | 14:33 |
nikhil | Please note the release schedule: | 14:33 |
nikhil | #link https://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 14:33 |
nikhil | Although the release date is thursdays on the release week | 14:34 |
nikhil | I'd like for us to cut either on Tuesday or Wednesday | 14:34 |
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nikhil | and only if there are critical patches then wait until Thursday | 14:34 |
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nikhil | #info So, let's tenatively say (again) Aug 31st is target release date for Newton Glance (EOD ET) | 14:35 |
Jokke_ | So FF deadline is Monday and N-3 supposed to be tagged at Thu (latest)? | 14:35 |
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nikhil | Jokke_: FF is the week of R-5 | 14:36 |
Jokke_ | nikhil: FF is 29th | 14:36 |
nikhil | Jokke_: FF happens when we cut n-3 | 14:36 |
nikhil | "Feature freeze | 14:36 |
nikhil | The newton-3 milestone marks feature freeze for projects following the release:cycle-with-milestones model. No featureful patch should be landed after this point. Exceptions may be granted by the project PTL." | 14:36 |
Jokke_ | yeah just reading that | 14:37 |
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nikhil | k | 14:37 |
Jokke_ | interesting | 14:37 |
Jokke_ | _everyone_ is talking about 29th | 14:37 |
nikhil | So, all relevant dates for that week is Aug 31 for Glance | 14:37 |
nikhil | Jokke_: we just don't have enouge churn/#people to worry :D | 14:38 |
nikhil | I know only 2-4 people planning to push things | 14:38 |
nikhil | we are a closely nit team and I am positive that we will communicate with each other if concerns are raised | 14:38 |
nikhil | any other comments/ques? | 14:39 |
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Jokke_ | so that much ... I will be afternoon/evening (UTC+3) of 31st away | 14:40 |
Jokke_ | and aiming for PTO from that onwards so don't expect too much last minute actions from me | 14:40 |
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nikhil | Jokke_: np, thanks for confirming in advance.. I don't expect any reviews from others after Monday (mostly) there may be exceptional reviews on Tues | 14:41 |
nikhil | Jokke_: whatever gets in gets in.. it's not like we'd dozens of people developing and reviewing in glance this cycle. so all that is achieved is only a bonus! | 14:41 |
Jokke_ | nikhil, tru | 14:42 |
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nikhil | I want to ensure that we keep things well communicated and make a smooth transition into ocata even before the summit | 14:42 |
nikhil | if we've important reviews to do then we make sure we get them done so that we can have a successful summit | 14:43 |
nikhil | that's my aim and for that I am not putting too much pressure on the release | 14:43 |
nikhil | plus defcore is not going to be topmost priority anymore so, I worry less | 14:43 |
nikhil | even less* | 14:43 |
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nikhil | moving on.. | 14:44 |
nikhil | #topic Barcelona Design Summit space needs (nikhil) | 14:44 |
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nikhil | So, again something we need to agree on by 31st | 14:44 |
nikhil | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-glance-summit-planning | 14:44 |
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nikhil | Please add your +/- 0,1,2 votes | 14:45 |
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nikhil | line #13 onward | 14:46 |
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nikhil | Last day to cast your vote is Monday 29th | 14:46 |
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Jokke_ | will likely try to think that over weekend | 14:47 |
nikhil | #info nikhil : will send the final proposal based on votes by 29th to summit planners on Tues 30th | 14:47 |
rosmaita | nikhil: cast voted by 16:00 UTC on aug 29? | 14:47 |
rosmaita | *votes | 14:47 |
nikhil | rosmaita: I will just wake up on Tuesday and send this over :) | 14:48 |
Jokke_ | ++ | 14:48 |
rosmaita | :) | 14:48 |
Jokke_ | Monday anywhere is still in :) | 14:48 |
nikhil | official time can be 23:59 PT | 14:48 |
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nikhil | yeah (let's forget hawaii for a bit) | 14:48 |
nikhil | #topic Open Discussion | 14:49 |
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nikhil | rosmaita: I remember you'd the members related bug brought up to meeting a couple of times | 14:49 |
nikhil | rosmaita: sorry about not being able to follow up earlier.. | 14:50 |
Jokke_ | Anyone heard what's the status with Glare guys? And do we have cleanup to do regarding glare before release? | 14:50 |
nikhil | rosmaita: if that's release critical, lemme know and I will try to get it reviewed (as possible) | 14:50 |
nikhil | Jokke_: good point | 14:50 |
nikhil | I had asked mike to put his plans up on: | 14:50 |
nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/352564 | 14:51 |
rosmaita | nikhil: i don't think it's release critical, plus i don't thnk there's code for it yet | 14:51 |
nikhil | Lemme sketch something up real quick | 14:51 |
nikhil | Jokke_: but information so far is the glare code whatever is in glance stays in for newton and the clean up is expected next cycle | 14:51 |
nikhil | (as murano is using it) | 14:51 |
Jokke_ | nikhil: is there anything we need to mark deprecated to be able to do so? | 14:52 |
nikhil | also there are a bunch of glare commits in glance queue that distract me all the time, now that they have decided to move to a new project! | 14:52 |
rosmaita | Jokke_: i think since it was 'experimental' we are ok | 14:52 |
tsymanczyk | can't mark them abandoned? | 14:52 |
nikhil | #action Mike Fedosin: update glare plans in the glance documentation and state if any API needs deprecation in glance in newton | 14:53 |
nikhil | rosmaita: I am of same opinion | 14:53 |
nikhil | but good to have it on paper | 14:53 |
rosmaita | ++ | 14:53 |
Jokke_ | rosmaita: ok, let's do sanity check that all of it was ... I don't want us to be stuck with it over Ocata just because we forgot mark something deprecated ;) | 14:53 |
nikhil | tsymanczyk: that will be super rude so I have not done that yet | 14:53 |
rosmaita | Jokke_: i agree completely | 14:53 |
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nikhil | tsymanczyk: especially as they may not have a full fledged CI testing code for glare project | 14:54 |
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nikhil | Jokke_: good pointers, thanks much! | 14:54 |
tsymanczyk | didn't know the etiquette. cool. | 14:54 |
nikhil | tsymanczyk: but you do indicate the attitude everyone needs to take.. clean up things after a decision is made otherwise | 14:54 |
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Jokke_ | tsymanczyk: yeah ... even they decided to move into their own house, we still love them :P | 14:55 |
nikhil | tsymanczyk: my passive push for getting things cleaned up in glance is the request to add plans | 14:55 |
tsymanczyk | i didn't mean it as an offensive thing, just "hey this stuff isn't ours anymore". | 14:55 |
rosmaita | get off my lawn! | 14:56 |
nikhil | once that is up, we will know what's going in behind the scenes | 14:56 |
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Jokke_ | tsymanczyk: yup, and it will happen either by them or by some of us but this is bit too soon | 14:56 |
nikhil | tsymanczyk: totally.. just a quirk of openstack community that's it :) | 14:56 |
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nikhil | any more comments? | 14:57 |
rosmaita | just about the v2 api bump ... i saw you put up a patch | 14:57 |
Jokke_ | tsymanczyk: we're kind on the phase "Mum, I've decided to look for my own place" 2 weeks lated "Hey, your shait is outside of the door, hope you got that place already" ;) | 14:57 |
nikhil | sure | 14:57 |
tsymanczyk | :D | 14:57 |
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nikhil | btw, guys this also needs a API bump: | 14:58 |
nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/324012 | 14:58 |
rosmaita | nikhil: what's changed that requires a bump? | 14:58 |
nikhil | rosmaita: that and if import things merge (at least value discovery and headers then that) | 14:58 |
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rosmaita | ok, gotcha | 14:58 |
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nikhil | thanks all for joining! | 14:59 |
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nikhil | have a good one all. | 14:59 |
nikhil | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 25 14:59:41 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-08-25-14.00.html | 14:59 |
liwei | :) | 14:59 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-08-25-14.00.txt | 14:59 |
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openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-08-25-14.00.log.html | 14:59 |
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tyr_ | o/ | 15:00 |
nikhil | :) | 15:00 |
TravT | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 25 15:00:02 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is TravT. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search' | 15:00 |
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TravT | o/ | 15:00 |
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RickA-HP | o/ | 15:00 |
lei-zh | o/ | 15:00 |
sjmc7 | o/ | 15:00 |
yingjun_ | o/ | 15:00 |
Kevin_Zheng | o/ | 15:00 |
TravT | okay | 15:01 |
rosmaita | o/ | 15:01 |
matt-borland | o/ | 15:01 |
TravT | so, agenda is here as usual: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda | 15:01 |
TravT | feel free to add | 15:01 |
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TravT | i've added a few things as usual | 15:01 |
TravT | #topic Newton Milestone 3 has 1week left | 15:02 |
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sjmc7 | :O | 15:02 |
TravT | last week we discussed feature freeze for the policy work. | 15:02 |
TravT | we didn't mailing list that, but i could send out a message announcing it | 15:03 |
sjmc7 | this would be for the RBAC change? | 15:03 |
sjmc7 | to shift rbac to policy? | 15:03 |
TravT | Phase 2 and phase 3 of the policy support | 15:03 |
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sjmc7 | i’m gonna try and take a first stab at that today. if it looks really gnarly we’ll maybe pass on it; i don’t want to be introducing too much terror this close to the release | 15:04 |
TravT | i think neutron rbac (if that's what you are talking about) should be done as well if not merged by next thursday | 15:04 |
sjmc7 | no, talking about phase 2 | 15:04 |
RickA-HP | I'm finishing up a test for RBAC and will submiut a new patch today. | 15:04 |
TravT | okay | 15:04 |
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TravT | lei-zh: looks like you have a patch up for pipeline | 15:05 |
TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/359972/ | 15:05 |
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TravT | i haven't looked, but we'll have to really be careful considering it this late | 15:05 |
lei-zh | yeah, I add some test cases, but it'not enough, still work on test cases to ensure it works | 15:06 |
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TravT | ok, well, everybody plz give a quick look through. | 15:07 |
TravT | we need to especially evaluate it for risk | 15:07 |
sjmc7 | yeah, will do | 15:08 |
lei-zh | I think it's too late for the feature, but it's helpful to give some feedbacks | 15:08 |
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lei-zh | so I can continue work on it | 15:08 |
RickA-HP | And feedback you shall get :) | 15:08 |
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TravT | ok, great. | 15:09 |
lei-zh | thanks:) | 15:09 |
TravT | So let's do a quick scan on BPs targetted for newton | 15:09 |
TravT | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/newton | 15:09 |
TravT | Kevin_Zheng: I just marked nova-server-groups-plugin as implemented. | 15:10 |
TravT | But we'll need a follow on for supporting notifications | 15:10 |
TravT | we did that for flavors and hypervisors as well | 15:10 |
TravT | There is still some ongoing work on the UI. | 15:11 |
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TravT | I'd like to propose allowing feature freeze exception on it | 15:11 |
TravT | a few polishing activities | 15:12 |
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TravT | there are some bugs in it that i've discovered over the last day or two | 15:12 |
TravT | and it uncovered a bug in Searchlight | 15:12 |
sjmc7 | that’ll learn you for testing things | 15:12 |
TravT | most bug fixes can go through RC1 | 15:12 |
RickA-HP | TravT: Does "it" for freeze excerptions mean the UI work, the server groups notification or both? | 15:13 |
TravT | server group notifications aren't feature freeze | 15:13 |
TravT | they are out of our control | 15:13 |
TravT | because of a dependency on nova | 15:13 |
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TravT | so, there is also a string freeze period | 15:13 |
TravT | so, the UI work will have to freeze on strings shortly as well | 15:13 |
TravT | i believe this also impact log messages localized | 15:14 |
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TravT | hard string freeze is 3 weeks from now, i think | 15:14 |
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TravT | we've enabled the translation jobs on the UI | 15:15 |
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TravT | but there is no guarantee that they'll get picked up by translators, at least for a bit | 15:15 |
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sjmc7 | maybe we could run a sweepstake | 15:15 |
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TravT | jumping around a bit | 15:16 |
TravT | but this is the bug i found using the UI | 15:16 |
TravT | https://bugs.launchpad.net/searchlight/+bug/1616674 | 15:16 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1616674 in OpenStack Search (Searchlight) "OS::Nova::Server ignores build --> error status update" [Undecided,New] | 15:16 |
TravT | I probably wouldn't have noticed it if weren't for some recent patches from tyr_ | 15:16 |
TravT | and matt-borland | 15:16 |
sjmc7 | ah. that’s probably my fault | 15:16 |
TravT | where the status of an item is detected and a progress bar shows up if it is an in transition status | 15:17 |
matt-borland | ah | 15:17 |
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TravT | yeah, i'm going to up the priority on that to critical | 15:17 |
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TravT | unless somebody can't reproduce | 15:18 |
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tyr_ | UI reload doesn't affect it so it appeared to be a missing update to SL index. | 15:18 |
TravT | tyr_: yes, this is a bug for server side | 15:18 |
TravT | your ui helped to me to spot | 15:18 |
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sjmc7 | i’m sure it’s a server side bug | 15:18 |
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TravT | I will need to tag searchlight, ui, and client next week. | 15:20 |
TravT | I'd like to do it by end of day wednesday | 15:20 |
TravT | I'm not sure if we actually have new things for the client | 15:20 |
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TravT | I'll have to look | 15:20 |
Kevin_Zheng | sure | 15:20 |
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Kevin_Zheng | sorry for the bad network | 15:21 |
tyr_ | we wanted to provide the total hit count | 15:21 |
TravT | tyr_: i put a patch up on that last night | 15:21 |
tyr_ | stellar! | 15:21 |
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TravT | i also put up a patch hiding field matches and another allowing sort by relevancy, date, or alphabetical server side | 15:22 |
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tyr_ | also was looking at hiding/configuring some of the columns that are shown by default. | 15:22 |
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TravT | yes, the field matches patch also hides that by default | 15:23 |
tyr_ | to make sure we provide a "consumer" experience, but also don't destroy some of the columns that we use a lot as devs. | 15:23 |
TravT | and we still need to do the same for the visibility column | 15:23 |
tyr_ | perfect. thx | 15:23 |
TravT | i also got 80% done with having a toggle between table rows (list view) and tile view. | 15:24 |
tyr_ | tile view? Sounds exciting. Targeting Newton? | 15:24 |
TravT | perhaps. | 15:25 |
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TravT | I also think i see how to get the pagination in around smart table... i really want that to verify pagination works as expected. | 15:25 |
TravT | there is still a huge user experience gap right now though with the actions | 15:26 |
TravT | i hope that you and matt-borland can figure out how to best handle that | 15:27 |
tyr_ | huge gap? Can you elaborate a bit? | 15:27 |
TravT | it is rather confusing to be able to take action on some things within table and not others. | 15:27 |
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tyr_ | Ooo, you mean we need more content? | 15:28 |
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TravT | hehe | 15:28 |
TravT | yep | 15:28 |
tyr_ | 100% agree :D | 15:28 |
TravT | but i really think we need that action shim | 15:29 |
TravT | as a stop gap | 15:29 |
tyr_ | +1 | 15:29 |
tyr_ | Unfortunate to need to supply that from searchlight, but byob I guess. | 15:29 |
TravT | yes, it is... | 15:30 |
TravT | but things get extremely hung up in horizon land | 15:30 |
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tyr_ | its very well isolated, so I don't think it is a problem to include | 15:30 |
TravT | anything we "shim" in for content / actions in SLUI, we need to plan to try to get that into horizon proper next release | 15:31 |
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tyr_ | oh, we could use a hand verifying that searchlight ui is correctly themable, if anyone has some CSS urges they'd like to express. | 15:32 |
TravT | okay | 15:32 |
TravT | i was going to ping hurgleburgler on it... | 15:32 |
tyr_ | that'd be awesome | 15:33 |
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TravT | it does work fine switching from material to default | 15:33 |
TravT | i haven't tried anything else | 15:34 |
TravT | we better move on | 15:34 |
TravT | #topic barcelona summit | 15:34 |
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TravT | does anybody know if they are going to be able to go? | 15:34 |
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sjmc7 | chances are not high for me | 15:35 |
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lei-zh | nope, still wait for topic vote result, 50% perhaps | 15:36 |
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TravT | i'm tempted to ask for 1 fishbowl and working session. The fishbowl would abuse the concept a bit and actually turn it into a "writing plugins for searchlight" teaching seminar for both backed and UI. | 15:37 |
TravT | working session possibly propose to be a joint one with nova for cells v2 | 15:37 |
TravT | they've told us we can't have as many as austin | 15:38 |
TravT | one less days and more projects | 15:38 |
TravT | thoughts? | 15:38 |
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sjmc7 | if you can get nova involved that’d be good | 15:39 |
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RickA-HP | Have we reached out to Nova? Are they receptive? | 15:39 |
sjmc7 | see if they’re serious about it, and indicate that the notifications are a bit of an impediment to us | 15:39 |
TravT | well, i went to their meeting this week and was waiting for "open discussion", but got distracted right at the end so missed it | 15:40 |
TravT | i can't image why anybody would get distracted during an IRC meeting... ;-) | 15:40 |
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RickA-HP | TravT: Can you repeat that, I wasn't paying attention. | 15:41 |
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TravT | huh? | 15:41 |
TravT | :) | 15:41 |
TravT | okay, let's move on | 15:41 |
TravT | #topic open discussion | 15:41 |
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TravT | yingjun_: Kevin_Zheng anything? | 15:41 |
yingjun_ | nothing from me | 15:42 |
Kevin_Zheng | me neither | 15:42 |
rosmaita | i got something | 15:43 |
TravT | Kevin_Zheng: question | 15:43 |
TravT | sorry rosmaita go ahead | 15:43 |
rosmaita | just want people to look at this and say what they think: http://docs-draft.openstack.org/87/357287/2/check/gate-searchlight-api-ref/5c73760//api-ref/build/html/ | 15:43 |
TravT | oh, i'm sorry... i didn't get to that since last week | 15:43 |
rosmaita | not sure the docs team will like all those POST /v1/search calls | 15:44 |
rosmaita | but we should decide if *we* even like it first | 15:44 |
rosmaita | no rush on this, so don't worry | 15:44 |
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rosmaita | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357287/ | 15:44 |
sjmc7 | oo, that’s nice | 15:44 |
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TravT | that is looking good | 15:45 |
rosmaita | feedback i need is how many more calls does it make sense to put in there? | 15:45 |
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sjmc7 | keystone’s a good example rosmaita | 15:45 |
TravT | i also owe you that... | 15:46 |
sjmc7 | they have examples for various authentication options (unscoped, domain, project) | 15:46 |
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rosmaita | sjmc7: haven't looked at that, will do | 15:47 |
sjmc7 | but i would keep the number pretty low since we have to maintain it; maybe a really simple query_string type query and a little more complicated one. the important thing is the various things that can be in the response | 15:47 |
sjmc7 | results, highlighting etc | 15:47 |
sjmc7 | so the bare minimum that shows that, i guess | 15:47 |
TravT | I would add in an example term search, boolean search. | 15:48 |
TravT | i still owe you the sample calls. | 15:48 |
sjmc7 | i’m slightly against putting loads of exampel searches in if the request payload is all that differs | 15:48 |
sjmc7 | but maybe look around and see what other projects do | 15:48 |
TravT | i think a few examples should be done. | 15:48 |
rosmaita | there are a bunch of examples in the current dev docs | 15:48 |
TravT | because most projects have APIs with request parameters fully specified | 15:49 |
sjmc7 | yeah. i’m not gonna get worked up about it, just don’t want to maintain stuff in loads of places | 15:49 |
TravT | in our case, most the magic is in the payload... | 15:49 |
tyr_ | rosmaita: TravT, sjmc7 and I took several iterations to figure out a good way to query multiple items. That might be a useful example to add. | 15:49 |
sjmc7 | ok - but again, not sure if that’s API documentation versus elasticsearch DSL documentation | 15:49 |
TravT | fair enough... | 15:49 |
TravT | maybe at the top, we should give a link to a few query types | 15:50 |
TravT | rosmaita: been pretty slammed, but if i don't have something for you by tomorrow please feel free to ping me directly | 15:51 |
rosmaita | well, this isn't a real rush thing | 15:51 |
rosmaita | we can publish independent of the release milestones | 15:51 |
tyr_ | in my example, not API so much as it is suggestions for "optimal" queries given how we expect searchlight to be deployed. | 15:51 |
rosmaita | so i'm not too worried about getting feedback | 15:51 |
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rosmaita | i mean, i am, just doesn't have to be immediate | 15:52 |
TravT | I'd also be happy to push the base patch through sooner than later and add on | 15:52 |
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rosmaita | ok, maybe we should put up an etherpad with ideas for what we want in the base merge | 15:52 |
TravT | okay, makes sense. | 15:53 |
TravT | i guess you can add a link to that in your patch | 15:53 |
rosmaita | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/searchlight-api-ref | 15:53 |
TravT | great. | 15:54 |
TravT | i do have a question for Kevin_Zheng if he hasn't fallen asleep | 15:54 |
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tyr_ | I'm very interested in defining 3-5 common tasks that people know (or even guess) their users do when maintaining their cloud. If you have any data, please pass it on. | 15:54 |
TravT | Re: the healthcheck middleware, is this something that would be required for your company before they'd consider deploying SL | 15:54 |
* TravT poor guy may have fallen asleep | 15:55 | |
RickA-HP | TravT: I think earlier Kevin alluded to having network problems. | 15:56 |
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TravT | okay, well we are pretty much out of time | 15:56 |
TravT | thanks everybody!@ | 15:56 |
RickA-HP | Bye | 15:57 |
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lei-zh | bye | 15:57 |
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TravT | #endmeeting | 15:57 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 25 15:57:29 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:57 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-08-25-15.00.html | 15:57 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-08-25-15.00.txt | 15:57 |
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mhayden | #startmeeting OpenStack-Ansible | 16:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 25 16:00:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mhayden. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible' | 16:00 |
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evrardjp | hello | 16:00 |
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michaelgugino | ahoy | 16:00 |
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andymccr | o/ | 16:00 |
DrifterZA | o/ | 16:01 |
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odyssey4me | o/ | 16:02 |
eil397 | 0/ | 16:02 |
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shasha_tavil | o/ | 16:02 |
automagically | o/ | 16:02 |
matias | o/ | 16:02 |
palendae | o/ | 16:02 |
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cloudnull | o/ | 16:03 |
mhayden | some folks here are stuck in another mtg -- i'll give 'em a couple of minutes | 16:03 |
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asettle | o/ | 16:03 |
rromans | \o | 16:03 |
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mhayden | okay, let's roll | 16:04 |
qwang | o/ | 16:04 |
mhayden | #topic Action items from the last meeting | 16:04 |
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mhayden | the one action item was from asettle for everyone to do some technical reviews of the new draft docs | 16:05 |
mhayden | there's still a bunch of work going on there! | 16:05 |
asettle | Yep! There is | 16:05 |
asettle | Going through and doing reviews of the full doc. It's certainly taking some time! | 16:05 |
jmccrory | o/ | 16:05 |
asettle | But htanks to everyone who has drawn my attention to certain issues. Trying my best to go through it. | 16:06 |
asettle | And thanks to everyone who volunteered to help out with the technical review. | 16:06 |
asettle | For anyone who missed last week | 16:06 |
michaelgugino | what's the link? | 16:06 |
asettle | If you are interested in testing the new install guide for the deploy, please sign up here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/install-guide-reviewteam | 16:06 |
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asettle | michaelgugino: for? | 16:06 |
michaelgugino | docs | 16:06 |
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automagically | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/install-guide-reviewteam | 16:07 |
asettle | As above michaelgugino | 16:07 |
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michaelgugino | thanks | 16:07 |
asettle | Please also pass onto your friends ;) | 16:07 |
mhayden | sweet | 16:08 |
asettle | That's all from me right now! :) | 16:08 |
asettle | Oh, if people wanna review this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360548/ | 16:08 |
asettle | That'd be rad too :p | 16:08 |
mhayden | thanks, asettle | 16:08 |
* asettle sneaks that one in | 16:08 | |
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mhayden | #topic Newton install guide overhaul updates (asettle) | 16:08 |
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asettle | Oh gosh, me again | 16:09 |
mhayden | asettle: looks like we have this covered already, right? ;) | 16:09 |
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asettle | Sort of haha | 16:09 |
asettle | Basically, one minor update! | 16:09 |
asettle | All the config information that was meant to be moved into the role docs are now all done. Thanks to those who put in that effort. | 16:09 |
evrardjp | thanks indeed | 16:09 |
asettle | If people have the time, please keep an eye out for some storage architecture diagrams coming around, and keep your eyes peeled for docs patches coming through | 16:09 |
odyssey4me | I had a chat with darrenc earlier today - he should have updated storage arch pics up tomorrow, or soon (tm). | 16:09 |
asettle | We're on the last leg of getting this doc up and ready for newton and we need all hands on review deck. | 16:10 |
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asettle | (see my plug before) | 16:10 |
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asettle | If people have the time to just read (not technically review) we would appreciate that too. | 16:10 |
asettle | Andddd last but not least, the doc will soon replace the installation guide that you see from teh front page. | 16:10 |
automagically | asettle: Have been and will continue to do so | 16:10 |
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odyssey4me | are we still missing example configs for test & prod? | 16:10 |
asettle | We will send around an update to the list | 16:10 |
asettle | odyssey4me: yes, you have them in your inbox ;) | 16:10 |
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automagically | odyssey4me: Yep, but its in progress | 16:10 |
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automagically | Believe nishpatwa is working it | 16:11 |
asettle | I think that's all major doc related updates. We have stuff to come, but would appreciate eyes and ears to the review ground mostly :) | 16:12 |
asettle | Thanks mhayden | 16:12 |
mhayden | woot | 16:12 |
mhayden | #topic Binary lookup (cloudnull) | 16:12 |
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evrardjp | that is a catchy topic name | 16:12 |
cloudnull | odyssey4me: and I have talked about adding a package lookup to py_pkgs | 16:13 |
cloudnull | this would index all of the apt/yum pacakages we use | 16:13 |
cloudnull | but to do it effectively we need to rename vars. :( | 16:13 |
palendae | Where would that index live? | 16:13 |
evrardjp | makes sense to standardize anyway | 16:13 |
odyssey4me | Some background on this - I'm wanting to try and get base container caches created for each role. I've asked cloudnull to put together a lookup for the apt/yum packages so that we can prep a base cache for each role and use it when creating containers to cut time, but also to enable the ability to archive those off and re-use them (which will be instrumented next cycle). | 16:13 |
automagically | And why are we doing it? | 16:13 |
* palendae hasn't looked at py_pkgs for a while | 16:13 | |
cloudnull | right now, we have <things>_packages: ${some-list} | 16:13 |
palendae | Gotcha | 16:13 |
cloudnull | we'd need <things>_bin_packages: ${some-list} | 16:14 |
cloudnull | which would be similar to what we do for pip | 16:14 |
automagically | Blueprint/spec in progress? | 16:14 |
cloudnull | odyssey4me: has a spec | 16:14 |
odyssey4me | So the plan is just to lay the foundation this cycle. | 16:14 |
automagically | Generally seems like a good idea | 16:14 |
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palendae | Kind of related - when is Newton-3? | 16:15 |
palendae | Would we want this done by then? | 16:15 |
odyssey4me | It's all groundwork for https://review.openstack.org/346038 - which is targeted for next cycle... but yeah, I'm hoping to get it in for experimentation for NEwton by N3. | 16:15 |
automagically | #link http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 16:15 |
automagically | 8/29-9/2 | 16:15 |
evrardjp | cloudnull: using bin_packages to makes sure the matching of _packages is unique, that's what you mean? | 16:15 |
palendae | So 4-7 days | 16:15 |
odyssey4me | All the CoW container creation work has been a part of this concept. | 16:16 |
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odyssey4me | All I'm missing is the lookup and I should be able to get a patch up pretty quickly. | 16:16 |
odyssey4me | cloudnull wanted to just agree on a standard name for the var | 16:16 |
palendae | Ah | 16:17 |
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palendae | Yeah, standardizing the name's pretty much a necessity IMO | 16:17 |
odyssey4me | I know that michaelgugino expressed that '_packages' wasn't a great nameanyway. | 16:17 |
cloudnull | evrardjp: yesa | 16:17 |
cloudnull | *yes | 16:17 |
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michaelgugino | yes, lots of types of packages. Don't like that name at all. | 16:17 |
odyssey4me | So I think we could quite easily get '_bin_packages' done this cycle and the lookup at least. | 16:17 |
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evrardjp | distro_packages or bin_packages | 16:18 |
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evrardjp | do we plan to install src packages from distro? | 16:18 |
odyssey4me | yeah, those were my floated suggestions | 16:18 |
automagically | There is a whole bunch of not that well understood magic going on in py_pkgs. Let’s hope we have less of it in bin_pkgs, good testing and some doc | 16:18 |
michaelgugino | I prefer distro_packages | 16:18 |
evrardjp | it's not that it really matters though | 16:18 |
michaelgugino | of course, there are third party packages we use (galera) | 16:18 |
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evrardjp | still installed as part of the distro (with another repo/ppa maybe) | 16:19 |
evrardjp | I don't really care of the name to be honest | 16:19 |
cloudnull | http://cdn.pasteraw.com/ao3dn1jpt8b0g0gywqrsbryhqh60y8i <- thats the current list of things w/ _packages that doesn't match pip | 16:19 |
evrardjp | I agree with the idea | 16:19 |
michaelgugino | also, I don't like calling things role_packages, as the actual roles are install from source. I would prefer <role>_distro_package_deps | 16:19 |
cloudnull | so having an anchor somewhere will be helpful | 16:19 |
cloudnull | I'm +1 for distro, bin ? | 16:19 |
odyssey4me | I'd like to try and at least have the os_roles optionally use this mechanism for Newton in the AIO. Nova builds several containers all with the same bin/pip package content... so it'd save quite a bit of time. | 16:20 |
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evrardjp | what would be great, is to drop apt_ | 16:20 |
evrardjp | the rest I don't really care :p | 16:20 |
odyssey4me | evrardjp we already did that :p | 16:20 |
evrardjp | not on the list of cloudnull odyssey4me:p | 16:21 |
odyssey4me | I don't feel too strongly about bin_packages or distro_packages. | 16:21 |
evrardjp | the choice come to the implementer then! | 16:21 |
cloudnull | as we go multi-distro apt/yum in the variable name has to go away | 16:21 |
evrardjp | don't forget a release notes for those who override the packages | 16:21 |
evrardjp | cloudnull: agreed! | 16:21 |
evrardjp | that's why I am telling this :p | 16:22 |
odyssey4me | #help vote | 16:22 |
jmccrory | should be existing release notes when apt was dropped, they'll just need to be updated with the final choice of bin/distro | 16:22 |
odyssey4me | jmccrory ++ | 16:22 |
evrardjp | ++ | 16:22 |
mhayden | #chair mhayden odyssey4me | 16:22 |
openstack | Current chairs: mhayden odyssey4me | 16:22 |
automagically | Next topic? | 16:23 |
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evrardjp | os_packages | 16:23 |
mhayden | can we get this onto the ML? | 16:23 |
odyssey4me | #startvote What's the name you prefer? bin distro | 16:23 |
openstack | Begin voting on: What's the name you prefer? Valid vote options are bin, distro. | 16:23 |
openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 16:23 |
evrardjp | #vote os | 16:23 |
openstack | evrardjp: os is not a valid option. Valid options are bin, distro. | 16:23 |
matias | #vote distro | 16:24 |
jmccrory | #vote distro | 16:24 |
michaelgugino | #vote distro | 16:24 |
asettle | Vote 1 Distro! | 16:24 |
DrifterZA | #vote distro | 16:24 |
odyssey4me | #vote distro | 16:24 |
qwang | #vote distro | 16:24 |
eil397 | #vote distro | 16:24 |
asettle | Distro for President! | 16:24 |
mhayden | #vote Pedro | 16:24 |
openstack | mhayden: Pedro is not a valid option. Valid options are bin, distro. | 16:24 |
mhayden | #vote distro | 16:24 |
odyssey4me | lol | 16:24 |
automagically | abstain | 16:24 |
evrardjp | mhayden: D | 16:24 |
odyssey4me | #endvote | 16:25 |
openstack | Voted on "What's the name you prefer?" Results are | 16:25 |
openstack | distro (8): matias, odyssey4me, eil397, DrifterZA, jmccrory, qwang, michaelgugino, mhayden | 16:25 |
odyssey4me | cloudnull there you have it :) | 16:25 |
evrardjp | :D | 16:25 |
evrardjp | next topic! | 16:25 |
asettle | Democracy at its finest. | 16:25 |
cloudnull | distro it is | 16:26 |
evrardjp | With Pedro and os as independant candidates, not sure whose of the republicans or the democrats won on this! | 16:26 |
evrardjp | anyway... | 16:26 |
michaelgugino | I didn't realize Pedro was an option! | 16:26 |
mhayden | next topic? | 16:27 |
evrardjp | os_packages was great IMO | 16:27 |
evrardjp | yup | 16:27 |
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mhayden | #topic Improvements to reduce container restarts (odyssey4me) | 16:27 |
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odyssey4me | yeah, so I wanted to raise awareness and figure out whether this effort should continue or not - and if to continue then decide how to approach it | 16:28 |
odyssey4me | in https://review.openstack.org/347400 I've tried two different methods to reduce container restarts on creation or major upgrades (where we typically change config/bind mounts) | 16:29 |
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odyssey4me | the general issue is that container restarts raise the possibility of service outages, and also deploy failures | 16:29 |
odyssey4me | the more we have, the worse it gets | 16:29 |
odyssey4me | right now with another patch coming in we should be down to 2 restarts max in a deploy - which isn't bad | 16:30 |
mhayden | 2 is fantastic | 16:30 |
evrardjp | it was really slow in the gates to have these restarts on heavily loaded hosts like ovh... now that we have osic it's kinda lighter... but I think it's better to have the least restarts as possible | 16:30 |
michaelgugino | My thinking is that we've made some good progress. I don't think we need to over optimize here. I realize container restarts cause a lot of waiting, but whenever I do a build, I run the contain create steps by themselves. I really feel like this is an important step to watch and make sure things go smoothly | 16:30 |
odyssey4me | I'm hoping for no more than one, and in one place (ie in the lxc-container-create play, or in the service install play). | 16:30 |
odyssey4me | cloudnull has raised concerns about variable namespace collisions and unwanted side effects | 16:31 |
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odyssey4me | to that end, I did some testing and was surprised to discover that in Ansible 2.1.1 the leaf group's var wins - which is what I had hoped. | 16:31 |
odyssey4me | #link https://gist.github.com/odyssey4me/4bd529fcf0e53385ebb7d02fa7bfd0e6 | 16:31 |
odyssey4me | so it seems to me that implementing https://review.openstack.org/347400 is perfectly safe | 16:32 |
cloudnull | i disagree. | 16:32 |
odyssey4me | the only outstanding concern would be that if a deployer wants to override the bind mounts for a specific group... if that's something that we want to instrument, I have a way to do it | 16:32 |
cloudnull | add the host to multiple groups watch the collision. | 16:32 |
jmccrory | how does it decide when a host is a member of multiple groups? | 16:32 |
odyssey4me | cloudnull that host was a member of multiple groups | 16:33 |
odyssey4me | read the gist | 16:33 |
cloudnull | i did | 16:33 |
cloudnull | i also read the ansible code and added debug statements to it. | 16:33 |
cloudnull | its still squashed. | 16:33 |
odyssey4me | the only way there'd be a problem is when the host is a member of two groups at the same level, in which case the group design is bad | 16:33 |
cloudnull | namespace or bust. | 16:33 |
cloudnull | the fact that there would be a problem, is a problem | 16:34 |
michaelgugino | I prefer that things be as declarative as possible. It's getting really tricky to trace through some of this stuff | 16:34 |
odyssey4me | the only other approach here would be to move the container creation and config into the service plays themselves. | 16:34 |
odyssey4me | that would achieve the goals, but will be tricky to get right | 16:34 |
cloudnull | this is how ansible smashes group vars http://cdn.pasteraw.com/62hcs9hp7u5i4a5rvuzvwxs519g6hh1 | 16:35 |
automagically | I’m in favor of the create containers in the service plays approach | 16:35 |
evrardjp | ansible way of doing things say we should have a variable name that's relevant to the role you're applying, and the group should properly list variables -- I don't see a problem of overlap if we manage stuff properly | 16:35 |
cloudnull | note the list keeps growing | 16:35 |
automagically | I think it will go a long way to make the project more approachable to new deployers | 16:35 |
evrardjp | automagically: you mean closer to ansible standards? | 16:36 |
automagically | evrardjp: That will also help, but I meant “create containers in the service plays approach" | 16:36 |
odyssey4me | automagically yeah, it does seem more intuitive that way - the container gets created when you build the service - and all changes to that service happen when you execute the play for the service | 16:36 |
michaelgugino | I disagree. I think the containers are more of the infrastructure that needs to be in place to deploy. It's perfectly intuitive as-is | 16:37 |
cloudnull | unless we can get https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/6666 or something similar | 16:37 |
cloudnull | im against overloading group_vars | 16:37 |
michaelgugino | the role should be able to deploy to any target | 16:37 |
evrardjp | automagically: agreed on that too. | 16:37 |
cloudnull | its not safe. | 16:37 |
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odyssey4me | cloudnull the approach of doing it in the service plays would be to apply a namespaced var to the role execution | 16:37 |
odyssey4me | which is exactly what you were suggesting should be done | 16:37 |
evrardjp | I don't understand the problem of group_vars | 16:38 |
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cloudnull | odyssey4me: yes. | 16:38 |
odyssey4me | it would also mean that the conditionals could be handled at the same time. | 16:38 |
cloudnull | i'd not be against that | 16:38 |
evrardjp | yes they can overlap, it's us to be smart and not do stupid overlapping things? | 16:38 |
odyssey4me | I've not put a sample patch together yet because I want your /var/log bind mount to get in before I start reworking it all. | 16:38 |
cloudnull | if the container was created in the service plays and that solves the issue, great! | 16:38 |
evrardjp | I don't think we have a need of multi-layer variable scoping else than what ansible does | 16:39 |
odyssey4me | michaelgugino we can still have the entrypoint of using the lxc-container-create playbook - it just won't be a default path any more | 16:39 |
michaelgugino | putting the container creation in the service plays locks us into using inventory as-is | 16:39 |
odyssey4me | so if you want the two step approach, you can get it | 16:39 |
cloudnull | but shoving everything into group_vars and hoping folks don't munge the groups, no. | 16:39 |
odyssey4me | michaelgugino erm, no it doesn't - it'll be no different to today - just executed in a different order | 16:40 |
evrardjp | let's stay close to ansible standards, it makes it simpler for ppl to discover the product | 16:40 |
automagically | evrardjp: ++ | 16:40 |
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cloudnull | ^ +1 | 16:40 |
automagically | So, looking forward to seeing the patch with the creation in the service play | 16:40 |
evrardjp | even if, yes, they suck sometimes. | 16:40 |
automagically | Think we need that in order to make a decision | 16:40 |
automagically | Seems rational to wait for the log bind mount to merge first | 16:41 |
odyssey4me | ok, I'll have one up by next week | 16:41 |
odyssey4me | yep | 16:41 |
michaelgugino | I think the plays and roles should be separated from the infrastructure as much as possible. | 16:41 |
palendae | At some point they have to intersect | 16:42 |
cloudnull | odyssey4me: container create could all be moved into a common-task when is_metal=false | 16:42 |
odyssey4me | cloudnull yep, I pretty much have the concept in my mind and think it should work just fine | 16:43 |
cloudnull | but i'll leave that to next week . | 16:43 |
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DrifterZA | odyssey4me: we can test it next week | 16:43 |
odyssey4me | I do like that it also makes an easy solution for the conditional configs/bind mounts | 16:43 |
odyssey4me | but I'd like to unwind some of that scary task logic that's going on in some of the plays | 16:43 |
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odyssey4me | it's close to unreadable in some of them | 16:44 |
odyssey4me | thanks mhayden - done here for now | 16:44 |
mhayden | woot | 16:45 |
mhayden | #topic Release planning & decisions | 16:45 |
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odyssey4me | right, I need to submit release requests - anything outstanding that needs a push before I do that? | 16:45 |
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mhayden | odyssey4me: i'd like to get that galera bind mount fix into 13.3.2 (or whatever is next) | 16:46 |
michaelgugino | nova-lxd and nova are not tracking ATM. | 16:46 |
michaelgugino | so, for master we need to get nova bumped | 16:46 |
odyssey4me | michaelgugino we're talking stable branches for the moment | 16:46 |
michaelgugino | ok | 16:46 |
odyssey4me | but yes, I will do a newton bump too | 16:46 |
odyssey4me | yeah, so mhayden's patch for the bad galera mount needs a review: https://review.openstack.org/358852 | 16:46 |
odyssey4me | it's a bit ugly, but it will do and is safe | 16:47 |
odyssey4me | but it looks like that'll need to wait for the next release | 16:47 |
palendae | I'm still looking for a solution to https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1614211, which I think might need a rewrite of how services are registered with keystone | 16:47 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1614211 in openstack-ansible trunk "Playbook Runs Fail in Multi-Domain Environments" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Nolan Brubaker (nolan-brubaker) | 16:47 |
palendae | But I still don't know for sure | 16:47 |
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automagically | palendae: Need help testing cases? | 16:48 |
odyssey4me | palendae so the registration into the default domain should be fine already? | 16:48 |
palendae | odyssey4me, It | 16:48 |
palendae | odyssey4me, It's evidently not. The playbooks get a 403 with the current setup using the multidomain config | 16:48 |
odyssey4me | but registration into other domains won't be without adding a domain parameter to all service reg tasks | 16:48 |
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palendae | They're not registering into other domains | 16:48 |
palendae | The problem is it's not using a domain-scoped token | 16:48 |
odyssey4me | oh, interesting - and the module passes the domain as a parameter? | 16:48 |
palendae | Yes, but if you pass domain and project/tenant, you get project/tenant | 16:49 |
cloudnull | we also might want to consider moving to the upstream shade modules. | 16:49 |
cloudnull | and dropping our keystone module. | 16:49 |
palendae | Our keystone module currently only supports project/tenant | 16:49 |
evrardjp | cloudnull: good idea | 16:49 |
odyssey4me | ah yes - so we need to pass either domain or project | 16:49 |
palendae | Right | 16:49 |
palendae | Or making a token | 16:49 |
palendae | Which is correctly scoped | 16:49 |
palendae | Same idea, but happens in a different spot | 16:50 |
palendae | cloudnull, You're talking about shade? | 16:50 |
odyssey4me | well, if we just leave out the project name from the parameters (for the login user) then it should work? | 16:50 |
palendae | I'm not at all opposed, but it's a big ask | 16:50 |
evrardjp | cloudnull: not sure if everything is implemented there though | 16:50 |
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odyssey4me | and cloudnull yes for shade, but that won't help liberty/mitaka | 16:50 |
evrardjp | it's worth discussing with bluebox too to share modules? | 16:50 |
palendae | odyssey4me, From the module call? the module will error out if you don't provide the project | 16:50 |
cloudnull | no it wont, | 16:50 |
cloudnull | http://docs.ansible.com/ansible/list_of_cloud_modules.html#openstack | 16:50 |
cloudnull | ^ palendae | 16:50 |
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odyssey4me | palendae sure, it'll need adjustment to the module - assuming that the API accepts it then that should be fine | 16:51 |
cloudnull | evrardjp: at last check the modlues should now support multiple domains | 16:51 |
palendae | Our current module has logic that if it didn't receive a token or a project_name, it bails | 16:51 |
palendae | But yes, I'm testing these cases | 16:51 |
cloudnull | but we can ping mordred about that if they dont. | 16:51 |
evrardjp | that's good | 16:51 |
palendae | I haven't arrived at one that I've gotten working yet | 16:51 |
odyssey4me | ok cool | 16:51 |
palendae | In any case, this will require editing more than just keystone | 16:51 |
palendae | It'll be changes to any service that registers with the catalog | 16:52 |
odyssey4me | we may have to just leave liberty as-is... but I'm guessing that mitaka will need this fix | 16:52 |
palendae | Yeah, that was the request | 16:52 |
palendae | I guess it's blocking an upgrade | 16:52 |
odyssey4me | ok, but it's not a release blocker now (for this tag) as this is new functionality | 16:52 |
palendae | Yeah, I wouldn't say it's a release blocker | 16:52 |
odyssey4me | you're just asking for help to figure out a good solution | 16:52 |
palendae | Mostly just stating I'll likely miss | 16:52 |
odyssey4me | ? | 16:52 |
palendae | Partially, yes | 16:53 |
palendae | And that implementing it fully will mean changing a bunch of roles | 16:53 |
odyssey4me | yeah - we may want to do it in master, run it for two weeks with testing, then backport just after the next tag and do the same | 16:54 |
odyssey4me | that way we get max test coverage | 16:54 |
palendae | Yep | 16:54 |
odyssey4me | even if it is human test coverage | 16:54 |
palendae | Planning on doing it in master | 16:54 |
palendae | Since that behaves the same as mitaka | 16:55 |
odyssey4me | ok, so release discussion done :) thanks mhayden | 16:55 |
mhayden | 5 minute warning ;) | 16:55 |
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mhayden | #topic Open floor | 16:55 |
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mhayden | just a few minutes remaining here | 16:55 |
mhayden | anything to bring up? | 16:55 |
cloudnull | 5 min warning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP2ipX0aiJo | 16:56 |
evrardjp | nothing, we had so many successes this week, I'm speechless | 16:56 |
automagically | Just an FYI - I’ll be on vacation all next week, so you won’t be seeing me in IRC | 16:56 |
cloudnull | enjoy ! | 16:56 |
mhayden | enjoy, automagically! | 16:56 |
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evrardjp | enjoy :D | 16:57 |
automagically | Could really use some help closing out the Ansible 2.1.1 role stuff. mhayden pitched in a bit yesterday, would definitely appreciate more eyes | 16:57 |
mhayden | i'll try to commit some time there | 16:57 |
automagically | Bit of a nasty item to untangle. | 16:57 |
cloudnull | ++ | 16:57 |
evrardjp | I'd like to pitch in -- I have to allocate time to it. | 16:57 |
evrardjp | I'll probably help when my upgrade bit is ready | 16:57 |
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odyssey4me | I think that naughty CentOS lxc start bug is more painful at this stage. | 16:58 |
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odyssey4me | once that flows, so will others. | 16:58 |
automagically | sounds like cloudnull has an idea on that | 16:58 |
mhayden | okay, i'll close this thing up unless there's anything else | 16:58 |
cloudnull | add retry | 16:58 |
evrardjp | :D | 16:58 |
eil397 | : ) | 16:58 |
mhayden | thanks everyone! :) | 16:58 |
cloudnull | ^ shitty i know. but seems to work | 16:58 |
mhayden | #endmeeting | 16:58 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 25 16:58:57 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:58 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-08-25-16.00.html | 16:58 |
cloudnull | cheers | 16:58 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-08-25-16.00.txt | 16:59 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-08-25-16.00.log.html | 16:59 |
evrardjp | cheers | 16:59 |
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cathy_ | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 25 17:00:16 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cathy_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining' | 17:00 |
LouisF_ | hi | 17:00 |
mohankumar | hi | 17:00 |
doonhammer | Hi Louis | 17:00 |
cathy_ | hi LouisF_ mohankumar doonhammer | 17:00 |
bcafarel | hi | 17:00 |
cathy_ | hi bcafarel | 17:00 |
pcarver | hi. I'm here but double booked in an unrelated face to face meeting | 17:00 |
cathy_ | hi pcarver | 17:01 |
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cathy_ | pcarver: then you can ignore that unrelated meeting and concentrate on this very related one:-) | 17:01 |
cathy_ | hi fsunaval | 17:01 |
LouisF_ | hi doonhammer | 17:02 |
fsunaval | hi cathy_ | 17:02 |
cathy_ | hi mohankumar | 17:02 |
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cathy_ | OK, lets' start | 17:02 |
cathy_ | #topic mitaka release | 17:02 |
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cathy_ | We have got most needed patches reviewed and merged. Now there are a few left. Here are the links | 17:03 |
cathy_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356070/ | 17:03 |
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cathy_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360306/ | 17:04 |
pcarver | I saw that Louis added test cases to 356070. I haven't reviewed them yet, but assuming they're good I'll be fine with it. | 17:05 |
cathy_ | pcarver: yes. | 17:05 |
LouisF_ | pcarver: added test cases | 17:06 |
cathy_ | pcarver: mohankumar and everyone, could you please review these two changes and give your +1 or +2 if no issue? | 17:06 |
mohankumar | cathy_ : yes , sure | 17:06 |
pcarver | cathy_: I'm booked solid all day today but will review tomorrow morning | 17:07 |
cathy_ | mohankumar: thanks | 17:07 |
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cathy_ | pcarver: OK, I will wait for your review by tomorrow. thanks. | 17:07 |
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cathy_ | we also need to revert the change of project ID to tenant ID to be compatible for the mitaka release, right? | 17:10 |
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LouisF_ | cathy_: correct | 17:11 |
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cathy_ | LouisF_: could you help find and post that patch which needs to be reverted? | 17:11 |
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LouisF_ | cathy_: ok is related to change from HasTenant to HasProject | 17:13 |
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cathy_ | LouisF_: yes. could you post a patch to revert the change? | 17:14 |
LouisF_ | i think it is in 3 files | 17:14 |
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LouisF_ | let me find the patch that made the change | 17:14 |
cathy_ | LouisF_: ok | 17:15 |
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cathy_ | thanks | 17:15 |
georgewang | hi | 17:15 |
cathy_ | hi georgewang | 17:15 |
georgewang | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360306/ | 17:16 |
cathy_ | could you explain a little bit on the patch you posted https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360306/ | 17:16 |
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georgewang | it reverts the change previously merged | 17:17 |
georgewang | the reason that I did not notice there were another change do the same thing | 17:17 |
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georgewang | and when I do the split, the base repo do not include that change | 17:18 |
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georgewang | so when I do the split, I accidentally split an unnecessary change | 17:18 |
georgewang | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355304/ | 17:19 |
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LouisF_ | this is the patch that changed tenant -> project https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342361/ | 17:19 |
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cathy_ | georgewang: yes, I see that this new patch reverts the previous change. But we need the previous change for fixing the OVS agent restart problem. You said there is already another change doing the same thing. Could you post that "another change" link? | 17:20 |
cathy_ | LouisF_: thanks | 17:20 |
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cathy_ | LouisF_: could you revert this change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342361/? | 17:21 |
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cathy_ | or someone else can help with this? | 17:22 |
cathy_ | hi s3wong | 17:22 |
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s3wong | hello, sorry --- late | 17:22 |
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georgewang_ | hi | 17:22 |
bcafarel | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348574/ is the original ovs agent restart fix? | 17:22 |
LouisF_ | i have not done a revert before - any guidance? | 17:23 |
fsunaval | cathy_: I can take care of that... | 17:23 |
cathy_ | fsunaval: thanks! | 17:23 |
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cathy_ | s3wong: any idea how to quickly revert a merged patch? Or we need to upload a new patch doing the reverse? | 17:24 |
georgewang_ | the revert is a new change | 17:25 |
georgewang_ | just follow the same procedure to approve a new change | 17:25 |
s3wong | cathy_: do that? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/588414/rolling-back-a-remote-git-repository | 17:25 |
csun | I think you can try git revert HEAD | 17:25 |
s3wong | cathy_: I never tried it --- but presumably you can push that reverted patchset and the main networking-sfc repo will take on the new history | 17:26 |
cathy_ | fsunaval: up to you, whichever the most simple and reliable way | 17:26 |
mohankumar | cathy_ , s3wong : it's for local git system i guess | 17:26 |
mohankumar | we should raise new change | 17:27 |
bcafarel | with gerrit it's mostly git revert commit_sha1 and run a new git review on that | 17:27 |
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s3wong | mohankumar: the link I posted was for remote | 17:27 |
s3wong | mohankumar: although TBH I don't know how it works with OpenStack's gerrit, which inherently heavily uses rebase | 17:27 |
mohankumar | s3wong : yes .. | 17:28 |
cathy_ | If none of us has tried those mechanism before, then I will suggest that we upload a new patch doing the reversed code, which is faster and safer. | 17:28 |
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mohankumar | s3wong: i too not have srong comment on this | 17:28 |
s3wong | cathy_: +1 | 17:28 |
cathy_ | let fsunaval do this. | 17:29 |
mohankumar | cathy_ : agree | 17:29 |
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cathy_ | georgewang_: could you answer bcafarel 's question? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348574/ is the original ovs agent restart fix? | 17:30 |
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fsunaval | cathy_: I assume we are talking about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342361/ | 17:31 |
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fsunaval | yes, no problem. | 17:31 |
cathy_ | fsunaval: yes | 17:32 |
georgewang_ | yes | 17:33 |
georgewang_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355304/ is the other change | 17:33 |
cathy_ | So after we get these two patches reviewed and merged and fsunaval gets the other patch reversed. Let's not approve any code merge until mitaka is released. sounds good? | 17:34 |
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s3wong | cathy_: +1 | 17:35 |
LouisF_ | cathy_: +1 | 17:35 |
mohankumar | cathy_ +1 | 17:35 |
pcarver | cathy_ sounds good for functional code, but if I get time to troubleshoot the failing gate test, is it ok to fix that? | 17:35 |
pcarver | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/354006/ | 17:35 |
pcarver | I haven't had time to dig through the error messages, but was hoping to do that tomorrow | 17:36 |
cathy_ | After the patches are merged, each of us can start getting networking-sfc code from latest and getting Neutron code from table/mitaka, then start testing. | 17:36 |
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cathy_ | pcarver: sure you can fix that. But that will not impact the functionality. | 17:37 |
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cathy_ | I mean impact the released functionality. AFAIK, it is the tempest test scripts issue | 17:38 |
georgewang_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358864/ is to fix functional tests skipping issue | 17:38 |
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georgewang_ | functional tests and tempest tests is merely the test coverage | 17:39 |
georgewang_ | If you cut a mitaka release, without this two change, it does not affect any features | 17:39 |
pcarver | georgewang_: I think that's a different issue from the missing test_hook script, right? | 17:40 |
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pcarver | post_test_hook.sh is what I'm adding, but after I added it there are still error messages in one of the logs | 17:40 |
cathy_ | pcarver: do you mean the issue that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/354006/ tries to fix? | 17:40 |
pcarver | cathy_: yes | 17:41 |
cathy_ | georgewang_: could you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/354006/? | 17:41 |
pcarver | I think it's separate from 358864 | 17:41 |
georgewang_ | I think the missing hook gate file issue have already been resolved | 17:41 |
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pcarver | georgewang_: resolved as in a fix proposed? Or a fix merged. I think we're still seeing failures | 17:43 |
pcarver | non-voting, but still failure | 17:44 |
georgewang_ | for functional tests, it is another reason | 17:45 |
georgewang_ | the skipping issue is I did not set OS_TEST_SUDO=1 in tox.ini | 17:45 |
cathy_ | #action fsunaval upload a patch reverting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342361/ to make codes compatible with stable/mitaka | 17:46 |
cathy_ | #action pcarver finish review of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356070/ by 8/26 Friday morning. | 17:47 |
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cathy_ | georgewang_: so you will fix all the failures in the functional and tempest tests, right? | 17:48 |
georgewang_ | yes | 17:48 |
cathy_ | georgewang_: cool. Thanks. | 17:49 |
georgewang_ | but maybe not that quick to catch up mitaka release | 17:49 |
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cathy_ | georgewang_: it is OK | 17:49 |
cathy_ | georgewang_: since they are the gating script issues, it is OK | 17:49 |
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cathy_ | I plan to get needed patched merged by Tomorrow and then each of us can start testing. | 17:50 |
cathy_ | Let's target at finishing all the tests by next Tuesday. Then I will request the release. We really can not postpone anymore since Newton cycle already started | 17:51 |
cathy_ | That's all from my side. Any other topic you would like to discuss? We only have 8 min left | 17:52 |
cathy_ | OK, we can end the meeting early today | 17:53 |
cathy_ | bye everyone | 17:53 |
bcafarel | bye | 17:53 |
LouisF_ | bye | 17:53 |
mohankumar | bye | 17:53 |
fsunaval | ...bye | 17:54 |
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cathy_ | #endmeeting | 17:54 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 25 17:54:12 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:54 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-08-25-17.00.html | 17:54 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-08-25-17.00.txt | 17:54 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-08-25-17.00.log.html | 17:54 |
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