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oanson | #startmeeting Dragonflow | 09:01 |
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openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 22 09:01:58 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oanson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:02 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'dragonflow' | 09:02 |
oanson | Hello. | 09:02 |
oshidoshi | hola | 09:02 |
oanson | Who is here for the Dragonflow meeting? | 09:02 |
gsagie | Hello. | 09:02 |
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oanson | Already better than last time :) | 09:02 |
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yuval | o/ | 09:02 |
yuli_s | hello | 09:02 |
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oanson | Let's wait another minute to see if anyone is late | 09:03 |
gsagie | \o | 09:03 |
oanson | All right | 09:03 |
oanson | #info oshidoshi gsagie yuli_s oanson in meeting | 09:04 |
gsagie | yuval is in the meeting as well.. just fyi | 09:04 |
gsagie | :) | 09:04 |
oanson | #info yuval is in meeting as well | 09:04 |
oanson | Thank you. I missed him in all the excitement | 09:04 |
oanson | #topic Newton Roadmap | 09:04 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Newton Roadmap (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:04 | |
gsagie | Well... he was hiding.. | 09:05 |
gsagie | hidding | 09:05 |
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oshidoshi | who's hiding? | 09:05 |
gsagie | its Ocata roadmap.. | 09:05 |
oanson | ML2 has been merged a while back. I have been testing it, but it isn't going very well. | 09:05 |
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oanson | Ocata is next version, no? Isn't October Newton is for October? | 09:05 |
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oanson | Ocata is next version, no? Isn't October Newton? ** | 09:06 |
gsagie | yes, i thought we arent talking about this version sorry | 09:06 |
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gsagie | Welcome lihi!!!! | 09:06 |
yuval | Welcome | 09:06 |
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oanson | We'll do Ocata in the Barcelona summit. We can discuss there what features we want and which directions to take. | 09:06 |
oshidoshi | :) | 09:07 |
oanson | So everyone should be there | 09:07 |
oanson | #info lihi is also in meeting | 09:07 |
oanson | Welcome. | 09:07 |
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oanson | As I was saying, I have been testing ML2. I couldn't get the fullstack to run. The L3 test + sec groups fail. | 09:07 |
oanson | Which is strange, because when I run it with real VMs, it works. So I'm looking into it, unless someone volunteers to take it of my hands | 09:08 |
oanson | Additionally, Neutron have added transaction guards on {create,update,delete}_port commands, so our L3 service plugin started throwing exceptions. | 09:08 |
oanson | This patch is supposed to be a workaround. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355736/ | 09:09 |
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oanson | I know midonet is having similar issues, so I will see if I can contact the relevant people and learn the correct solution | 09:09 |
oshidoshi | @oanson, the patch you mentioned is about ML2, not L3 | 09:10 |
oanson | oshidoshi, it's the L3 service plugin in ML2. | 09:10 |
oanson | So technically, it is both | 09:10 |
oshidoshi | ok | 09:10 |
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oanson | The VLAN network plugin is also up. I was trying to test it before merge which is when I ran into some issues. If someone can test it and then +1 the patch, that would help a lot. | 09:11 |
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oanson | I was hoping DuanKebo would be here and they could maybe take it. | 09:12 |
oanson | Metadata is in. That's nice. | 09:12 |
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oanson | I am also working on the packaging, but I am running into strange pip behaviours, so I have a lot of untested ansible code :) | 09:12 |
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oanson | Anything I left out? | 09:13 |
gsagie | i saw you merged the DPDK code | 09:13 |
oshidoshi | there are several merge conflicts, what about those? | 09:13 |
gsagie | anyone tested it by any chance? | 09:13 |
oanson | oshidoshi, patch owners have to fix it. | 09:13 |
oshidoshi | oanson: of course they do, this is a reminder | 09:14 |
oanson | oshidoshi, you out-polited me. I was caught by surprise. | 09:14 |
* oshidoshi blushing | 09:14 | |
oanson | #topic Bugs | 09:15 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:15 | |
yuanwei1 | Hello~ DuanKebo is not here right now. But I can help about the problem of L3 + secgroup fullstack cases fail. I will try this on my local environment:) | 09:15 |
oanson | yuanwei1, thank you. | 09:16 |
oanson | All right, yuli_s, as our bug master, any word? | 09:16 |
yuli_s | sec. | 09:16 |
yuli_s | we need ownership of this bug: | 09:17 |
yuli_s | https://bugs.launchpad.net/dragonflow/+bug/1611707 | 09:17 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1611707 in DragonFlow "Changing tunnel type for existing chassis does not work" [High,New] | 09:17 |
yuli_s | and here related to ml2 | 09:17 |
yuli_s | https://bugs.launchpad.net/dragonflow/+bug/1605535 | 09:17 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1605535 in DragonFlow "auto-topology-allocation doesn't work with ml2" [Medium,New] | 09:17 |
yuli_s | i am working on this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/dragonflow/+bug/1615351 | 09:17 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1615351 in DragonFlow "Bug in subnet create command" [High,New] - Assigned to Yuli (stremovsky) | 09:17 |
oanson | yuli_s, bug 1280522 doesn't have a priority. | 09:18 |
openstack | bug 1280522 in Blazar "Replace assertEqual(None, *) with assertIsNone in tests" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1280522 - Assigned to zhangguoqing (474751729-o) | 09:18 |
yuli_s | will fix it | 09:18 |
oanson | Great. Thanks. | 09:19 |
oanson | So who's taking bug 1611707 | 09:19 |
openstack | bug 1611707 in DragonFlow "Changing tunnel type for existing chassis does not work" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1611707 | 09:19 |
oanson | ? | 09:19 |
oanson | What about 1605535? | 09:20 |
oanson | Great. | 09:20 |
oanson | Any other bug-related stuff? | 09:20 |
yuli_s | nothing for now | 09:21 |
oanson | #topic Performance | 09:21 |
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oanson | yuli_s, anything interesting on this front? | 09:21 |
yuli_s | hm, I made few more tests | 09:21 |
yuli_s | and send the results, | 09:21 |
yuli_s | i was working on setting up a new lab with real dragonflow, but here got a problem to create a network | 09:22 |
oanson | yuli_s, great. No worries. | 09:22 |
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oanson | Did you get a chance to see if https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355237/ made a difference? | 09:22 |
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yuli_s | i have not tested it | 09:23 |
oanson | No worries. I was just curious. | 09:23 |
yuli_s | ok | 09:23 |
oanson | Anything else here? | 09:24 |
oanson | #topic Open Issues | 09:25 |
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oanson | weizj isn't here, but his patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356860/ raised an interesting question. | 09:25 |
oanson | Do we want to use argparse (or something similar) in df-db? | 09:25 |
oanson | Are there any recommendations? | 09:25 |
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oanson | Obviously the CLI must remain identical. | 09:26 |
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oanson | Don't all shout at once. | 09:27 |
oanson | Well, let's move on. | 09:27 |
oanson | Anyone wants to raise a question? | 09:27 |
oanson | Thanks for coming. | 09:28 |
oanson | #endmeeting | 09:28 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 09:28 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 22 09:28:47 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:28 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-08-22-09.01.html | 09:28 |
yuval | bye :) | 09:28 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-08-22-09.01.txt | 09:28 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-08-22-09.01.log.html | 09:28 |
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Sukhdev | Folks time for Ironic-neutron meeting | 16:00 |
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TheJulia | o/ | 16:00 |
jroll | \o | 16:00 |
mjturek1 | o/ | 16:01 |
Sukhdev | #startmeetng: Ironic_neutron | 16:01 |
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Sukhdev | Oppss | 16:01 |
Sukhdev | #startmeeting: ironic_neutron | 16:01 |
hshiina | o/ | 16:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 22 16:01:44 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to '__ironic_neutron' | 16:01 |
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Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:02 |
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Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron#Meeting_August_22.2C_2016 | 16:02 |
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Sukhdev | todays agenda is short and sweet - should be done quick | 16:02 |
devananda | o/ | 16:02 |
* devananda lurks from a cafe in NYC | 16:02 | |
Sukhdev | feel free to add | 16:02 |
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Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements | 16:03 |
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sambetts | o/ | 16:03 |
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Sukhdev | I will be out next week - gone to VmWorld in Las Vegas | 16:03 |
mjturek1 | enjoy! | 16:03 |
Sukhdev | Need a volunteer to chair the meeting | 16:03 |
jroll | I could do that | 16:04 |
Sukhdev | jroll : perfect - thanks | 16:04 |
jroll | np | 16:04 |
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Sukhdev | BTW, I will be presenting Bare Metal deployments in multi-tenant data centers in Future:Net next week - | 16:05 |
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Sukhdev | Future:net is running in parallel to VMWorld | 16:06 |
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Sukhdev | Anybody has any other announcement? | 16:06 |
jroll | awesome :) | 16:06 |
Sukhdev | it seems it is a very hot topic - there is another speaker on Bare metals topic as well | 16:07 |
mjturek1 | Sukhdev: any chance it'll be recorded? | 16:07 |
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Sukhdev | mjturek1 : I have no idea - but, they have sent me instructions as if it will recorded | 16:08 |
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mjturek1 | ahhh, would love to hear it if it does get recorded :) | 16:08 |
Sukhdev | mjturek1 : http://www.vmware.com/futurenet | 16:09 |
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mjturek1 | very cool - thx | 16:09 |
Sukhdev | moving on - | 16:09 |
Sukhdev | today's agenda is short | 16:09 |
Sukhdev | Two items to cover - | 16:10 |
Sukhdev | 1) PortGroups | 16:10 |
Sukhdev | 2) Security Groups | 16:10 |
mjturek1 | for portgroups - in response to last week's meeting I drafted up this nova patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357222 (WIP because of a failing test case) | 16:10 |
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mjturek1 | would like to know if people think this is sufficient | 16:10 |
Sukhdev | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357222 | 16:11 |
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sambetts | seems like a resonable way to go from a quick scan | 16:12 |
jroll | mjturek1: I saw that this morning, I think it's okay... checking one thing | 16:12 |
mjturek1 | cool cool | 16:12 |
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jroll | ok yeah, I think that's fine | 16:12 |
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jroll | the other thing we could do is just not present resources for it | 16:13 |
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jroll | which might be more confusing for ops, but less annoying for nova users | 16:13 |
sambetts | as in don't return the ports that have port group ids on the port list? | 16:13 |
mjturek1 | jroll: think it'd be as likely to land? | 16:13 |
jroll | er, sorry, don't present resources for a node with portgroups | 16:13 |
jroll | e.g. here https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/ironic/driver.py#L259 | 16:14 |
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jroll | mjturek1: idk, it's an extra api call in a pretty hot path, it's worth the conversation though | 16:14 |
sambetts | I think we could do in on the Ironic side using the API versions if we hide ports that have port_group_ids from API versions prior to supporting that field right? | 16:14 |
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jroll | ehhhhhh, seems super hacky | 16:15 |
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sambetts | yeah :/ just throwing it out as an alternative if we didn't want to put that logic in Nova | 16:16 |
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sambetts | the fact we're having to bump the API version so nova understands portgroups just enough to say hey I don't understand those, seems to defeat the point of having the API version there | 16:17 |
jroll | yeah, it's a bit odd | 16:18 |
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mjturek1 | sambetts: yeah it is a bit strange. | 16:19 |
sambetts | another alternative is to prevent vif_port_id being set on a port that has a portgroup_id on the Ironic side | 16:19 |
sambetts | then Ironic will throw a you can do this error at that point | 16:19 |
sambetts | or a 400 you should be using my portgroup... error | 16:20 |
sambetts | then no version bumb is required, it'll just error at the port.update call | 16:20 |
sambetts | bump* | 16:21 |
sambetts | thats ^ less hacking and probably useful anyway | 16:21 |
sambetts | outside this scenario | 16:21 |
jroll | yeah, maybe we leave a comment on that patch? | 16:22 |
jroll | that does seem useful | 16:22 |
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sambetts | leaving a comment now | 16:23 |
mjturek1 | thanks sambetts, I think I understand | 16:23 |
jroll | sambetts: the portgroups API patch, to be clear :) | 16:23 |
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Sukhdev | the other two patches on port groups require reviews as well folks | 16:24 |
sambetts | jroll: thanks :) | 16:24 |
Sukhdev | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347549 | 16:24 |
Sukhdev | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332177/ | 16:24 |
Sukhdev | anything else on port groups? | 16:25 |
Sukhdev | jroll : BTW, how much time do we have for the cut-off of Neutron release? | 16:26 |
jroll | Sukhdev: Newton? | 16:26 |
Sukhdev | yes - sorry.... I always mess up neutron newton :-) | 16:26 |
jroll | I want to cut off portgroups at feature freeze, I think | 16:27 |
Sukhdev | fingers are so tuned to typing neutron | 16:27 |
jroll | which is the week ending sept 2 | 16:27 |
jroll | it's a huge patch | 16:27 |
jroll | *maybe* a week after that, but idk | 16:27 |
jroll | #link http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 16:27 |
jroll | is the newton schedule | 16:27 |
sambetts | Looking at the portgroups patches I'm confused by the commit messages, both seem to say they are adding the portgroups API | 16:28 |
mjturek1 | sambetts: sorry, the first patch is just adding the portgroups API controller | 16:28 |
mjturek1 | no interaction with ports or nodes | 16:29 |
Sukhdev | jroll : thanks - we do have some | 16:29 |
Sukhdev | time | 16:29 |
mjturek1 | sambetts: I'll clear up the messages today | 16:29 |
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sambetts | mjturek1: thanks :) it seems like they need a rebase too | 16:30 |
mjturek1 | will do | 16:30 |
jroll | Sukhdev: this week and next week | 16:30 |
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Sukhdev | jroll : puts pressure on me to get the security groups patch completed this week - as I am out next week - but, one week is sufficient :-):-) | 16:31 |
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Sukhdev | anything on port groups? | 16:32 |
jroll | Sukhdev: assuming reviewers aren't insanely busy, it's sufficient | 16:32 |
jroll | (hint: they are) | 16:32 |
Sukhdev | :-) | 16:32 |
jroll | we have priorities and lots of other things to do, please understand if it doesn't make it | 16:33 |
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Sukhdev | Understood | 16:33 |
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Sukhdev | one the second topic - Security Groups - I finally started to work on it - got delayed because of critical customer delivery | 16:33 |
Sukhdev | it is my goal to complete it this week | 16:34 |
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Sukhdev | I will be pushing a patch within a day or two for early assessment from you guys | 16:35 |
jroll | cool | 16:35 |
Sukhdev | other than that I do not have any other update | 16:36 |
Sukhdev | #topic: Open Discussion | 16:36 |
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Sukhdev | Two weeks to the goal line - as jroll mentioned | 16:37 |
Sukhdev | lets give it a final push | 16:37 |
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mjturek1 | \o/ | 16:37 |
sambetts | Sukhdev: inspector plugin documentation is here BTW http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ironic-inspector/usage.html#plugins | 16:37 |
sambetts | Sukhdev: see the local_link_connection plugin part :) | 16:38 |
Sukhdev | sambetts : so, I use the ramdisk image created by devstack for my testing - If I modify to pass the lldp parameter - I should be able to test it? | 16:39 |
Sukhdev | #link: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ironic-inspector/usage.html#plugins | 16:40 |
sambetts | Sukhdev: you have to modify the inspector DHCP configuration to pass the new kernel parameter, and add local_link_connection to the list of enabled plugins in the inspector config | 16:40 |
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sambetts | Sukhdev: devstack should be using IPA for inspector already | 16:42 |
sambetts | just need to enable the LLDP collection | 16:42 |
sambetts | and the plugin to handle the new data | 16:43 |
Sukhdev | sambetts : I pulled a fresh install on Friday with devstack - this means I have everything in my setup - | 16:43 |
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sambetts | awesome then you only need the two changes to the configs and it should work | 16:44 |
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Sukhdev | sambetts : presently my test script sets up the local_link_information by doing manual inspection of physical connectivity (kind of similar to what LLDP would do) | 16:45 |
Sukhdev | at the time of node creation | 16:45 |
Sukhdev | sambetts : ipa-collect-lldp=1 does this go in the ironic config file? | 16:47 |
sambetts | no, the inspector DHCP configuration file | 16:47 |
Sukhdev | sambetts : I will ping you off-line to understand it - this will be really quick for me to test it out | 16:48 |
Sukhdev | sambetts: and will simplify my test scripts | 16:48 |
sambetts | Ok sure :D | 16:48 |
Sukhdev | anything else | 16:48 |
Sukhdev | devananda : enjoy your trip in NYC | 16:49 |
devananda | Sukhdev: thanks! here for conferences this week | 16:49 |
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Sukhdev | good weather to be in NYC | 16:50 |
Sukhdev | If nothing else - we are done | 16:50 |
Sukhdev | Reminder jroll will chair this meeting next week | 16:50 |
Sukhdev | Thanks folks | 16:50 |
jroll | thank you Sukhdev | 16:50 |
Sukhdev | bye | 16:50 |
Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 16:51 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 22 16:51:01 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:51 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/__ironic_neutron/2016/__ironic_neutron.2016-08-22-16.01.html | 16:51 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/__ironic_neutron/2016/__ironic_neutron.2016-08-22-16.01.txt | 16:51 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/__ironic_neutron/2016/__ironic_neutron.2016-08-22-16.01.log.html | 16:51 |
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gnuoy | #startmeeting charms | 17:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 22 17:00:11 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gnuoy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'charms' | 17:00 |
thedac | o/ | 17:00 |
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beisner | o/ | 17:00 |
gnuoy | Hi all, I'll just pause a minute for any straglers | 17:00 |
tinwood | Hi! | 17:00 |
gnuoy | \o | 17:00 |
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cargonza | o/ | 17:01 |
wolsen | o/ | 17:01 |
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gnuoy | #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting | 17:01 |
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jamespage | o/ | 17:01 |
gnuoy | #subtopic Mascot | 17:01 |
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tinwood | jamespage, do you have details on this yet? | 17:02 |
gnuoy | I don't think it was actually an action but did something happen after the last vote? | 17:02 |
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jamespage | I emailed Heidi but have not heard back - | 17:02 |
gnuoy | kk | 17:02 |
jamespage | orangutang was the first choice | 17:02 |
jamespage | just chased | 17:02 |
gnuoy | #subtopic beisner Nominate thedac for charms-release group | 17:02 |
gnuoy | did that happen? | 17:02 |
jamespage | gnuoy, no I think we where waiting on your vote? | 17:02 |
gnuoy | orly | 17:02 |
beisner | sent to ml, received some +1s there. | 17:02 |
thedac | thanks, beisner | 17:03 |
gnuoy | I'll dig it out and +lots | 17:03 |
gnuoy | #topic State of Development for next Charm Release | 17:03 |
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jamespage | gnuoy, added thedac to -release | 17:03 |
gnuoy | jamespage, thanks | 17:03 |
thedac | thank you | 17:03 |
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wolsen | well earned thedac | 17:04 |
tinwood | yay | 17:04 |
gnuoy | Anyone got anything they'd like to highlight as a feature targetted for 16.10? | 17:04 |
beisner | woot thanks all, welcome thedac ;-) | 17:04 |
jamespage | no technically but I want to have a bit of a focus on our dev guide | 17:04 |
gnuoy | defo | 17:04 |
jamespage | I'll take an action to include the openstack-on-lxd README as a section | 17:04 |
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gnuoy | #action jamespage include the openstack-on-lxd README as a section in dev guide | 17:05 |
beisner | prob worth getting nova serial-console feature dev on someone's list | 17:05 |
jamespage | beisner, are you still ok to contrib the amulet bits and pieces? I think generally documenting our CI there is OK | 17:05 |
jamespage | beisner, ah yes | 17:05 |
beisner | jamespage, yes i have an outstanding to-do to update the test section of the charm-guide, still plan to tackle that. | 17:05 |
gnuoy | The SDN cookie cutter charms *will* be ready for 16.10 | 17:05 |
tinwood | once we know what shape they will be. | 17:06 |
gnuoy | ha! yes | 17:06 |
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beisner | orangutan, naturally | 17:06 |
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gnuoy | ok, anyone got anymore... | 17:06 |
gnuoy | #topic High Priority Bugs | 17:06 |
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gnuoy | Any horrible bugs worth noting? | 17:06 |
* jamespage thinks | 17:07 | |
gnuoy | thedac, am I right in thinking there is some rabbit work still needs doing? | 17:07 |
thedac | glance-simplestreams-sync needs xenial updte | 17:07 |
jamespage | I had a juju 2.-0 trip hazard | 17:07 |
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jamespage | https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1615601 | 17:07 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1615601 in juju-core "2.0 beta 14 + openstack: generated hostnames exceed 255 byte limit" [High,Triaged] | 17:07 |
thedac | gnuoy: possibly more stability testing for rabbit, yes | 17:07 |
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jamespage | gnuoy, thedac: yeah we need to rip out all of the hosts management changes I made | 17:07 |
jamespage | I feel I should do that and clean up my own mess | 17:08 |
gnuoy | jamespage, it reminds me of the ol' directory-too-long back in pyjuju days | 17:08 |
wolsen | has anyone tested l3-ha for neutron gateway in the recent past? | 17:08 |
jamespage | oh for sockets | 17:08 |
jamespage | yah lol | 17:08 |
thedac | :) | 17:08 |
beisner | glance-simplestreams-sync is worth a separate and more detailed convo imho. when we last discussed i/p, we thought it might be good to deprecate it and add actions to the glance charm. | 17:08 |
gnuoy | wolsen, yes, it's part of our release testibng | 17:08 |
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thedac | beisner: actions are an interesting idea | 17:08 |
wolsen | gnuoy: great | 17:08 |
gnuoy | beisner, yes, that was where we left it | 17:09 |
jamespage | beisner, agreed - we need todo that this week or it will not happen - I'll schedule a slot and we can discuss in #openstack-cahrms | 17:09 |
beisner | as g-s-s-s-s-s-s is currently not in ci, i think we should either knock it into shape, or work the necessary bits into the glance charm | 17:09 |
jamespage | second for me | 17:09 |
gnuoy | wolsen, I spoke to thedac and we're going to dig at it too | 17:09 |
jamespage | gnuoy, can you action me to organize a follow up for that pls? | 17:09 |
beisner | cool | 17:09 |
wolsen | gnuoy, stellar | 17:09 |
jamespage | (g-ss-s) | 17:09 |
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jamespage | welcome! | 17:10 |
gnuoy | #action jamespage Discuss future of g-ss-s charm | 17:10 |
wolsen | gnuoy: I'd be more than happy to help as I'd like to understand if I did something wrong | 17:10 |
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gnuoy | wolsen, sur, will keep you updated | 17:10 |
bbaqar | jamespage: thanks :) | 17:10 |
gnuoy | ok, moving on.... | 17:10 |
gnuoy | #topic requirements files in charms | 17:10 |
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gnuoy | So, there was some talk of doing a global requirements thingy, is that right? | 17:11 |
beisner | hi. so osci is currently tripping over a dep of a dep of a dep of a req in charm-tools | 17:11 |
beisner | https://github.com/juju/charm-tools/issues/246 | 17:11 |
beisner | which is fix-committed in charm-tools master, but will not resolve our issue until/if charm-tools cuts a new pypi release | 17:11 |
beisner | that underlying issue is solvable in another way though, which is to require setuptools version == that of xenial | 17:12 |
tinwood | if it's in a venv, why's it failing? is it using system packages? | 17:12 |
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beisner | no, it's setuptools 2.2 in a venv on trusty vs setuptools 25.2.0 in venvs on xenial. | 17:13 |
jamespage | beisner, is this just effecting UOSCI testing? is OpenStack verification ok? | 17:13 |
beisner | if we use the later setuptools, problem solved. | 17:13 |
beisner | jamespage, openstack verification is ok, as they're now building venvs on xenial hosts. | 17:13 |
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tinwood | I think it is using site-packages. However, it may need to. | 17:14 |
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beisner | on the topic of xenial, we will need jenkins-slave to overcome this https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+source/jenkins-slave/+bug/1543380 | 17:14 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1543380 in jenkins (Ubuntu) "jenkins-slave on Xenial: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket " [Undecided,Confirmed] | 17:14 |
beisner | back to the nature of the topic, and my question: | 17:14 |
beisner | requirements.txt and test-requirements.txt across os-charms are not unified | 17:15 |
beisner | but should be imho | 17:15 |
beisner | i've added links to upstream requirements-update code, which may be usable for this, albeit overkill for what i'd like to do. | 17:15 |
beisner | which is maintain requirements in our release-tools repo, along with the necessary script to push that into the os charm repos. | 17:16 |
gnuoy | sorry, where have you added those links? | 17:16 |
beisner | oh sorry, in the etherpad | 17:16 |
beisner | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-charms-weekly-meeting-20160822 | 17:16 |
gnuoy | #link https://github.com/openstack/requirements | 17:16 |
gnuoy | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/requirements/#enforcement-in-projects | 17:16 |
beisner | jamespage, without charm-tools passing, we won't get amulet tests because it's bail on first fail in the pipeline | 17:17 |
jamespage | beisner, yeah | 17:17 |
beisner | so, fact: charm-tools in a venv on a trusty host now fails by default until pypi pkg is revved up; qq: do we pressure there and wait it out, or start modding charm reqs? | 17:18 |
jamespage | beisner, hmm | 17:18 |
beisner | it does bring the desire to have global reqs swiftly to the front burner, if that's the direction we want to go. | 17:19 |
jamespage | my main problem is that even if we go for an approach that means we have consistent requirements.txt and test-requirements.txt we can still get hit by transient dependency issues | 17:19 |
beisner | yeah, in this case the dependency chain looks like: cryptography->secretstorage->keyring->launchpadlib->charm-tools | 17:19 |
jamespage | I think its a step forward, but we should probably follow our peer projects and start to use pip constraints to pin/fix versions as required | 17:19 |
beisner | where the breakage was at charm-tools, but on a launchpadlib dep, when secretstorage revved up. | 17:20 |
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beisner | i'm not sure anything can solve that | 17:20 |
jamespage | the constraints are sourced from upper-constraints.txt in global-requirements - if we take that approach, then we can fix a transient break in a central way, rather than having to raise 30 reviews | 17:20 |
beisner | yes that is good | 17:21 |
gnuoy | ok, I think we're agreed on the central requirements approach | 17:21 |
jamespage | agreed +1 | 17:21 |
beisner | but if you take this breakage, we would have to pin 4 layers deepo | 17:21 |
beisner | deep, even | 17:21 |
gnuoy | beisner, but in one place | 17:21 |
tinwood | I'm not sure I understand it. | 17:21 |
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jamespage | beisner, we can generate a constraints file | 17:21 |
beisner | cryptography->secretstorage->keyring->launchpadlib->charm-tools | 17:21 |
jamespage | based on a known good baseline, and then refresh and re-test on a regular basis | 17:22 |
beisner | ^ secretstorage revved up, breaking charm-tools. we already pin charm-tools. | 17:22 |
jamespage | beisner, I think constraints covers everything in the venv | 17:22 |
jamespage | https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/upper-constraints.txt | 17:22 |
jamespage | not just the expressed dependencies in requirements.txt | 17:23 |
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beisner | right, i don't disagree there at all. ok, so who's going to take that on? | 17:23 |
beisner | seems like a non-trivial undertaking | 17:23 |
jamespage | I don't think its that bad | 17:24 |
jamespage | we have a good template to copy imho | 17:24 |
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jamespage | I know everyone is super busy | 17:24 |
beisner | i would like to get there (use openstack/requirements as a model). i would also like to unblock your gate tactically. | 17:24 |
jamespage | beisner, quickest way to gate being unblocked is to release charm-tools right? | 17:25 |
beisner | yes | 17:25 |
jamespage | lemme go kick the tyres there then | 17:25 |
beisner | fyi, queried in #juju first thing this am | 17:25 |
beisner | worth a re-ping | 17:25 |
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jamespage | beisner, ok | 17:26 |
gnuoy | ok, so publish fixed charm-tools RSN and global requirements soon too | 17:26 |
jamespage | gnuoy, agreed | 17:26 |
gnuoy | kk | 17:26 |
gnuoy | #topic Barcelona Design Summit: Fishbowls, Workrooms and Contributor meetups. | 17:26 |
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gnuoy | jamespage, your topic I believe | 17:26 |
jamespage | oh yeah - so we need to decide on what to request for the design summit in terms of slots etc... | 17:27 |
gnuoy | jamespage, whats the deadline? | 17:27 |
jamespage | 31st | 17:27 |
gnuoy | ack | 17:27 |
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jamespage | fishbowls are fixed advertised content - I was going to suggest | 17:27 |
jamespage | 1) retry of 16.07 and 16.10 charm releases - identify pain points and potential ways forward | 17:27 |
jamespage | retro | 17:27 |
jamespage | 2) 16.10 planning and high level objective setting | 17:28 |
jamespage | and then request a workroom for an afternoon (3 slots) | 17:28 |
jamespage | with a contributor meeting on the friday pm if we can get one | 17:28 |
jamespage | does that sound ok? | 17:28 |
gnuoy | sounds good to me | 17:28 |
thedac | sounds good | 17:29 |
tinwood | Sounds excellent. | 17:29 |
jamespage | okwill request tommorow | 17:29 |
gnuoy | #action jamespage request Barcelona Design Summit slots | 17:29 |
gnuoy | we're pretty much out of time | 17:29 |
gnuoy | anyone got anything else burning? | 17:30 |
thedac | no | 17:30 |
tinwood | nope | 17:30 |
jamespage | no | 17:30 |
gnuoy | same time, same place in 2 weeks then | 17:30 |
gnuoy | #endmeeting | 17:30 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 22 17:30:32 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:30 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2016/charms.2016-08-22-17.00.html | 17:30 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2016/charms.2016-08-22-17.00.txt | 17:30 |
jamespage | ta | 17:30 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2016/charms.2016-08-22-17.00.log.html | 17:30 |
jamespage | ttfn | 17:30 |
tinwood | thanks gnuoy | 17:30 |
thedac | thanks, gnuoy | 17:30 |
beisner | fyi, charm-tools pypi release eminent i am told :-) | 17:30 |
beisner | thanks all | 17:30 |
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