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| ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 08:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 3 08:00:18 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 08:00 |
| ifat_afek | Hi everyone :-) | 08:00 |
| nofar_schnider | Hi there! | 08:00 |
| nbloom | yo | 08:00 |
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| idan_hefetz | Hi | 08:01 |
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| alexey_weyl | Hello | 08:01 |
| eyalb | hi | 08:01 |
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| lhartal | hi :-) | 08:02 |
| ifat_afek | Our agenda today: | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | * Status and Updates | 08:03 |
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| ifat_afek | * Vitrage Mascot | 08:04 |
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| ifat_afek | * Open Discussion | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Status and Updates | 08:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status and Updates (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:04 | |
| ifat_afek | The voting for Barcelona sessions is still open. Please vote for Vitrage! (8 sessions) | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/vote-for-speakers/ | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | Enter the link, and select "Vitrage" in the search box to get the first 7 sessions | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | Then, select "RCA" to get the last one | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | My updates: I'm starting to work on auto-evacuate vms from a failed host | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | In vitrage templates, there is an action (added by idan_hefetz) for mark host down. In addition to that, I'm going to call nova api for evacuate vms | 08:05 |
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| ifat_afek | I think I will add a flag in vitrage config file, to let the user turn this option on/off | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | I'm going to add a blueprint for that today/tomorrow | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | Who else wants to update? | 08:06 |
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| idan_hefetz | I will | 08:06 |
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| idan_hefetz | I'll take some time to perform end to end testing of vitrage on larger setups | 08:07 |
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| idan_hefetz | I will create a testing plan and update in the mailing list, when it's ready | 08:08 |
| idan_hefetz | if you have idea's for manual tests i'd be happy to hear :) | 08:08 |
| ifat_afek | idan_hefetz: great. maybe you can start an email thread with some ideas, and other people can add to that | 08:09 |
| nbloom | Hi, I'll update on my progress | 08:10 |
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| nbloom | I have recently solved bug #1606834 which adds update_method to each of our datasources. An update_method can be either none for nothing but Vitrage's periodic snapshots, pull to have the datasource poll its source every configurable [changes_interval] seconds, changes interval needs to be configured in order for this to work and push to set the d | 08:12 |
| openstack | bug 1606834 in Vitrage "Vitrage Update Modes" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1606834 - Assigned to Noam (noam-bloom-ext) | 08:12 |
| nbloom | atasource get updates via push notifications | 08:12 |
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| nbloom | Zabbix datasource is a good example for one that supports all of those update methods. The change should be merged to Vitrage sometime today. | 08:13 |
| nbloom | That's all on my part | 08:13 |
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| nbloom | #link https://launchpad.net/bugs/1606834 | 08:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1606834 in Vitrage "Vitrage Update Modes" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Noam (noam-bloom-ext) | 08:15 |
| ifat_afek | nbloom: great, thanks for the explanation | 08:15 |
| lhartal | I have a small update :) | 08:16 |
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| lhartal | This week, I'm going to change the the vitrage alarms API | 08:16 |
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| lhartal | in order to recieve all alarms from vitrage you need to type (in CLI) vitrage alarm list (no alarms) | 08:18 |
| lhartal | that's all | 08:19 |
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| ifat_afek | lhartal: cool | 08:19 |
| nofar_schnider | I will continue the work on Heat this week from were Dan stopped | 08:20 |
| ifat_afek | you mean heat datasource, right? | 08:20 |
| nofar_schnider | yep, sorry about that | 08:20 |
| ifat_afek | \\ | 08:21 |
| ifat_afek | sorry | 08:21 |
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| nofar_schnider | We'll add the heat notifications as well :) | 08:22 |
| ifat_afek | nofar_schnider: great, thanks | 08:22 |
| ifat_afek | Any other updates? | 08:22 |
| ifat_afek | Moving on | 08:24 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Vitrage Mascot | 08:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Vitrage Mascot (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:24 | |
| ifat_afek | The selected Mascot for Vitrage is a Giraffe | 08:25 |
| ifat_afek | The poll results were: Giraffe-7, Tree-3, Parrot-1 | 08:25 |
| ifat_afek | We didn't vote for the Surricata, as Telemetry wanted it | 08:25 |
| ifat_afek | Now we need to think of ways to illustrate our Girafe. Ideas? | 08:25 |
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| ifat_afek | One idea (danoffek) was to have a Giraffe with a window in front of it, and the part of the Giraffe behind the window will be colorful. The window is like a vitrage | 08:27 |
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| nbloom | there is a very nice illustration I found on google #link http://rawr2200.deviantart.com/art/colorful-giraffe-70057678 that is, I think, what we should aim for, a Vitrage-ic giraffe | 08:29 |
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| ifat_afek | I like it | 08:29 |
| lhartal | I like the idea.. also I think the Giraffe should look over Vitrage name and straight with big eyes. Also and her neck need to be colorful (the window part) | 08:32 |
| ifat_afek | sounds good too | 08:34 |
| ifat_afek | Let me know what you prefer and I'll email Heidi | 08:35 |
| ifat_afek | Moving on | 08:35 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Open Discussion | 08:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:35 | |
| ifat_afek | Anything you would like to raise? | 08:35 |
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| ifat_afek | So that's it for today | 08:37 |
| ifat_afek | Bye | 08:37 |
| alexey_weyl | נטק | 08:37 |
| alexey_weyl | bye | 08:37 |
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| nbloom | bye bye | 08:37 |
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| ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 08:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 08:38 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 3 08:38:26 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-08-03-08.00.html | 08:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-08-03-08.00.txt | 08:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-08-03-08.00.log.html | 08:38 |
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| jed56 | #startmeeting watcher | 09:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 3 09:01:52 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jed56. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 09:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'watcher' | 09:01 |
| jed56 | Hello | 09:02 |
| alexchadin | hi | 09:02 |
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| diga | o/ | 09:02 |
| vincentfrancoise | o/ | 09:02 |
| jed56 | Agenda for today #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#08.2F03.2F2016 | 09:03 |
| tkaczynski | hi | 09:03 |
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| jed56 | #topic Announcements | 09:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 09:04 | |
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| jed56 | #info I will send a mail to promote alexchadin as a watcher core contributor today | 09:04 |
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| hanrong | hi | 09:05 |
| jed56 | any other announcement ? | 09:05 |
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| alexchadin | some parts of watcher support in rally has been merged | 09:05 |
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| alexchadin | 2 patches is waiting for new PS | 09:06 |
| jed56 | can you share with us the links ? | 09:06 |
| alexchadin | yeap, wait a sec | 09:06 |
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| alexchadin | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/openstack/rally+owner:%22Alexander+Chadin+%253Ca.chadin%2540servionica.ru%253E%22 | 09:07 |
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| jed56 | #info some parts of watcher support in rally has been merged | 09:08 |
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| jed56 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/openstack/rally+owner:%22Alexander+Chadin+%253Ca.chadin%2540servionica.ru%253E%22 | 09:08 |
| jed56 | thanks | 09:08 |
| jed56 | #topic Review Action Items | 09:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 09:08 | |
| jed56 | #topic watcher specs | 09:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "watcher specs (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 09:08 | |
| jed56 | The Graph model describing virtual and physical elements in a data center blueprint has to be reviewed by the cores because the development will start soon. | 09:09 |
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| jed56 | #info https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298891/ need to be merged | 09:09 |
| jed56 | #topic watcher | 09:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "watcher (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 09:09 | |
| jed56 | The blueprint 'cluster-model-objects-wrapper' has been merged so we can start to develop 'Graph model' blueprint. | 09:10 |
| jed56 | The first part of the scoring-module has been merged and also the blueprint 'bp/persistent-audit-parameters'. | 09:10 |
| jed56 | Congratulations to all those who worked on these blueprints ! | 09:10 |
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| tkaczynski | +1 :) | 09:11 |
| jed56 | #info 'cluster-model-objects-wrapper' first part 'scoring-module' persistent-audit-parameters are available in the watcher trunk | 09:11 |
| jed56 | As we have merged many things, I would like that everybody take some time to test Watcher on his environment. | 09:11 |
| diga | +1 | 09:11 |
| alexchadin | will do | 09:12 |
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| jed56 | Who could take some time to test watcher ? | 09:12 |
| gzhai | I'll do | 09:12 |
| diga | I am trying out everything now | 09:12 |
| hanrong | +1 | 09:13 |
| jed56 | #action diga alexchadin hanrong gzhai test watcher on his own infrastructure | 09:13 |
| diga | +1 | 09:13 |
| tkaczynski | I will also do some testing as part of testing scoring module | 09:13 |
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| jed56 | This is better that each developer of the available watcher strategies take some time | 09:13 |
| jed56 | this is the more "complex" part to evaluate right now | 09:14 |
| vincentfrancoise | +1 | 09:14 |
| jed56 | for example if alexchadin you can test https://github.com/openstack/watcher/blob/master/watcher/decision_engine/strategy/strategies/workload_stabilization.py | 09:14 |
| vincentfrancoise | unit tests on strategy do not cover all possible scenarios | 09:14 |
| jed56 | vincentfrancoise: +2 :) | 09:15 |
| alexchadin | jed56: ok, once I discuss with you audit scope a little bit later:) | 09:15 |
| jed56 | alexchadin: yes | 09:16 |
| jed56 | vincentfrancoise: has started to evaluate monasca | 09:16 |
| jed56 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348891/ | 09:16 |
| jed56 | #info vincentfrancoise: has started to evaluate monasca | 09:16 |
| jed56 | vincentfrancoise: Can you share with us some results ? | 09:16 |
| alexchadin | jed56: I will be full-time available since 8 august, is it okay for you? | 09:17 |
| vincentfrancoise | so here is a pad that show some of the results I had while playing around with monasca: https://pad.b-com.com/p/monasca-ceilometer-ceilosca | 09:17 |
| jed56 | no full-time for me enough time to help you ;) | 09:17 |
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| gzhai | vincentfrancoise: how about current status of monasca? | 09:18 |
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| gzhai | Is it ok for scalability test? | 09:18 |
| jed56 | #link monasca evaluation results https://pad.b-com.com/p/monasca-ceilometer-ceilosca | 09:18 |
| vincentfrancoise | so basically I pushed a monasca helper that will be available for strategy developers | 09:18 |
| vincentfrancoise | using influxDB as storage with monasca | 09:18 |
| vincentfrancoise | we can see that the metrics queries are much faster | 09:19 |
| gzhai | so need change strategy's code? | 09:19 |
| gzhai | It's great! | 09:19 |
| vincentfrancoise | so there are 3 approaches | 09:19 |
| vincentfrancoise | with the ceilometer one, it took 18s to execute the basic_consolidation strategy | 09:20 |
| vincentfrancoise | but with a tweak in the query formatting I could actually reduce it down to 4 seconds | 09:20 |
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| vincentfrancoise | see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348891/2/watcher/common/ceilometer_helper.py | 09:21 |
| vincentfrancoise | which means that we can still use ceilometer with "acceptable" performances | 09:21 |
| gzhai | i see. limit the query. | 09:22 |
| vincentfrancoise | but compared to monasca, we can get down to .5 seconds with the same configuration | 09:22 |
| gzhai | Fantastic! | 09:22 |
| gzhai | total strategy execution time? | 09:23 |
| vincentfrancoise | yes that includes the time spent building the cluster data model (nova queries) | 09:23 |
| jed56 | #info performances => ceilometer 4 seconds versus monasca 0.5 seconds | 09:23 |
| jed56 | so, we have to decide if we keep the both ( ceilometer or monasca) | 09:24 |
| jed56 | because the queries are not the same | 09:24 |
| vincentfrancoise | gzhai: if you look at line 11 and 12 in the pad I explain the difference | 09:24 |
| vincentfrancoise | jed56: +1 | 09:25 |
| jed56 | #info we have to decide if we maintain ceilometer and monasca in watcher | 09:25 |
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| gzhai | vincentfrancoise: the strategy code can handle both, right? | 09:25 |
| vincentfrancoise | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348892/ shows how much I had to change basic_consolidation to make it work using monasca | 09:26 |
| jed56 | I forgot to say that there is new spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348049/ from joe | 09:27 |
| alexchadin | what is dimensions? | 09:27 |
| vincentfrancoise | gzhai: yes but there is not abstraction with the 2 so the strategy will have to be explicit on whether it uses ceilometer or monasca | 09:27 |
| jed56 | vincentfrancoise: +2 | 09:28 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: dimensions are pretty much filters | 09:28 |
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| gzhai | we need rewrite all existed strategies for monasca? | 09:28 |
| gzhai | Keep both ceilometer and Monasca copy? | 09:28 |
| vincentfrancoise | if we decide to move away from ceilometer: yes | 09:28 |
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| vincentfrancoise | gzhai: that's a question that will have to be answered at some point | 09:29 |
| vincentfrancoise | that's why I pushed the basic_consolidation updates as a [PoC] | 09:29 |
| gzhai | got it. thanks. | 09:30 |
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| diga | jed56: can we implement the celometer & monasca both | 09:30 |
| diga | I think this way, we are giving more options to the user | 09:30 |
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| jed56 | as vincentfrancoise says this is possible but this is not easily | 09:31 |
| jed56 | s/easliy/easy | 09:31 |
| jed56 | todo | 09:31 |
| diga | yes, okay | 09:31 |
| vincentfrancoise | the best thing that can be done would be to add a strategy parameter asking which metrics backend to use | 09:31 |
| jed56 | diga: I agree the best solution is to have the boths | 09:31 |
| jed56 | vincentfrancoise: I agreee | 09:32 |
| diga | jed56: yep | 09:32 |
| jed56 | #topic Blueprint/Bug | 09:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Blueprint/Bug (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 09:32 | |
| jed56 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343135/ has been merged | 09:32 |
| jed56 | oops, need a new patchset :) | 09:32 |
| jed56 | but https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342594/ has been merged | 09:33 |
| jed56 | any others bugs ? | 09:34 |
| jed56 | #topic open discussion | 09:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 09:34 | |
| jed56 | I have not open discussion. | 09:34 |
| jed56 | :) | 09:34 |
| diga | we have shifted meeting from 1600 UTC to now ?? | 09:35 |
| diga | is this the fix timing of meeting ? | 09:35 |
| jed56 | this is changing every week | 09:35 |
| diga | alternative weeks | 09:35 |
| diga | ok | 09:35 |
| jed56 | we meet weekly on Wednesdays at 14:00 UTC on even weeks, 9:00 UTC on odd weeks | 09:35 |
| diga | okay | 09:36 |
| diga | got it | 09:36 |
| tkaczynski | htop | 09:36 |
| jed56 | 100% | 09:36 |
| jed56 | 100% | 09:36 |
| vincentfrancoise | :D | 09:36 |
| tkaczynski | sorry guys, wrong window :) | 09:36 |
| jed56 | bye | 09:36 |
| diga | hahah | 09:36 |
| diga | bye | 09:36 |
| jed56 | logout | 09:37 |
| tkaczynski | bye | 09:37 |
| jed56 | #endmeeting | 09:37 |
| vincentfrancoise | bye guys | 09:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 09:37 | |
| alexchadin | bye | 09:37 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 3 09:37:09 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-08-03-09.01.html | 09:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-08-03-09.01.txt | 09:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-08-03-09.01.log.html | 09:37 |
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| alex_xu | #startmeeting nova api | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 3 13:00:04 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova api)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_api' | 13:00 |
| alex_xu | who is here today? | 13:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | o/ | 13:00 |
| gmann_ | hi | 13:00 |
| hanrong1 | hi | 13:00 |
| alex_xu | good morning and evening | 13:01 |
| edleafe | \o | 13:01 |
| songruixia | hi | 13:01 |
| edleafe | alex_xu: good UGT morning! | 13:01 |
| alex_xu | edleafe: ah, so smart! | 13:01 |
| sdague | o/ | 13:02 |
| alex_xu | so, let us start the meeting | 13:02 |
| alex_xu | #topic action from previous meeting | 13:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "action from previous meeting (Meeting topic: nova api)" | 13:02 | |
| alex_xu | ACTION: gmann_ to start on user_id policy patches | 13:02 |
| alex_xu | gmann_: do you have update for this? | 13:03 |
| gmann_ | alex_xu: yea, i started but not pushed patch for that | 13:03 |
| gmann_ | alex_xu: may be this week i will start adding those | 13:03 |
| alex_xu | gmann_: do you need help, I guess that need a lot of patches? | 13:03 |
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| alex_xu | gmann_: cool! | 13:03 |
| gmann_ | alex_xu: yea, i will ping you tomorrow. help is always great :) | 13:03 |
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| alex_xu | gmann_: cool, and Kevin_Zheng ask me about anything help need in api team, so I and Kevin_Zheng both ready for help you | 13:04 |
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| gmann_ | alex_xu: cool. Thanks. i will let you guys know. | 13:04 |
| alex_xu | gmann_: np, cool | 13:05 |
| gmann_ | then may be we can out all these soon. | 13:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | feels like we should get a patch up to do one action, then get others to follow the pattern? | 13:05 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/324068 | 13:05 |
| alex_xu | the spec still didn't get merge yet | 13:05 |
| gmann_ | alex_xu: but spec still need +A | 13:05 |
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| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: yea | 13:05 |
| gmann_ | yea | 13:05 |
| gmann_ | johnthetubaguy: +1 | 13:05 |
| alex_xu | sdague: I have one question, do we move target parameter for other actions | 13:05 |
| alex_xu | s/move/remove | 13:05 |
| sdague | alex_xu: are they already there for other actions? | 13:06 |
| sdague | I thought the issue was they weren't anywhere | 13:06 |
| alex_xu | sdague: yea, I think there are few, like start action have target parameter | 13:06 |
| sdague | well, right now, let's just worry about the additions | 13:07 |
| alex_xu | but I didn't check the full list, if we want to remove that, I will scan all the api | 13:07 |
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| alex_xu | ok | 13:07 |
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| sdague | and we can evaluate removes later | 13:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | honestly, right now, the tenant_id check is basically a no op in the policy layer | 13:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: there is a spec for you to review here: https://review.openstack.org/324068 | 13:07 |
| mriedem | yup, will do this morning | 13:07 |
| * alex_xu just +1 for the spec | 13:07 | |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: right, that's true, with policy in code we can probably handle that better. There was actually a bug about that recently I triaged. | 13:08 |
| * alex_xu needs check what happened | 13:09 | |
| alex_xu | so we are cool at here | 13:09 |
| alex_xu | ACTION: please review https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/discoverable-policy-cli,n,z | 13:09 |
| alex_xu | emm...I didn't do that, but I will try to reach that asap | 13:10 |
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| alex_xu | there still have one patch mark as WIP | 13:10 |
| alex_xu | I guess no comment at here | 13:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: interesting, I thought we were OK as we check when we fetch the instance form the DB, but thats basically hard coded right now | 13:11 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: right, that was actually the bug | 13:11 |
| * alex_xu speak too fast... | 13:11 | |
| sdague | the desire to put a manager project policy in place | 13:12 |
| sdague | it was from sam at nectar, what's his last name again? | 13:12 |
| mriedem | morrison | 13:12 |
| sdague | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1607602 | 13:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1607602 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "non admin project policy.json declarations ignored for most instance actions" [Medium,Confirmed] | 13:12 |
| sdague | thanks, that's what I needed, I really wish launchpad had "bugs I've commented on" feature | 13:13 |
| sdague | or bugs I changed something with | 13:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: ah, gotcha | 13:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: +1 to that | 13:13 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: so it's related in that we still have some admin context hard coding at the db layer which we need to eventually remove, and with policy in code it should be safer to do so, as we'll have sane backstops | 13:14 |
| sdague | anyway, it's O at least for that, but it was related | 13:14 |
| sdague | we can move on I think | 13:14 |
| alex_xu | ok | 13:14 |
| alex_xu | I need check the bug later, still didn't get what happen... | 13:15 |
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| alex_xu | #topic API Priorities | 13:15 |
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| alex_xu | So i think we need discuss the deprecation API | 13:16 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/350277 | 13:16 |
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| alex_xu | I have one idea, we should keep os-interface and deprecate the os-virtual-interface | 13:17 |
| mriedem | yeah, so, that's the spec based on the ML thread | 13:17 |
| mriedem | i don't really like that idea if we plan on exposing vif tags out of the api at some point | 13:17 |
| mriedem | and exposing vif tags is the only reason i'd keep os-virtual-interfaces around | 13:17 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: we can expose that on os-interface in next release | 13:18 |
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| alex_xu | mriedem: the problem for os-virtual-interfaces is only work for instance which created after Newton | 13:18 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: not if we use the instance.info_cache | 13:18 |
| sdague | the vif tagging was added pretty recently right, what's the original justification for putting that in the nova API at all? | 13:19 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: emm...yea, we can | 13:19 |
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| mriedem | sdague: vif tagging was 2.32 | 13:20 |
| mriedem | you pass the tags for ports/bdms when creating the server | 13:20 |
| mriedem | i think artom/dansmith plan for that to be in os-attach-interface at some point also | 13:20 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, that should match boot, and you should be able to query what you did | 13:20 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: we can do that, and fix it as bug. Another problem is we still keep two endpoint os-interface and os-virtual-interface, that is confuse | 13:20 |
| sdague | ok, is this not returned in the normal server record? | 13:21 |
| mriedem | sdague: no | 13:21 |
| sdague | why? | 13:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | it feels like it lives in there | 13:21 |
| sdague | I do get the fact that we should be able to view what we did | 13:21 |
| sdague | but if this was added so that it was a param on boot, it seems like it should be in the server record | 13:21 |
| sdague | anyone got a link to the spec for this? | 13:22 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/350277/ | 13:22 |
| sdague | mriedem: no the vif tagging one | 13:22 |
| mriedem | http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/newton/approved/virt-device-role-tagging.html | 13:22 |
| sdague | ah, right, you need to be able to manage the tags | 13:23 |
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| sdague | so this was landed in neutron in some way as well? | 13:24 |
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| mriedem | no | 13:25 |
| mriedem | purely nova | 13:25 |
| gmann_ | and this was done only for boot. not for volume-attach nd interface-attach | 13:25 |
| mriedem | the tag is stored in the bdm and virtual_interface tables | 13:25 |
| sdague | so nova is the only keeper of these tags | 13:25 |
| mriedem | yes | 13:25 |
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| sdague | ok, so os-virtual-interface is the only management API for those? | 13:25 |
| mriedem | today os-virtual-interface is the lookup for virtual_interfaces, yes | 13:26 |
| mriedem | which only works for nova-net right now | 13:26 |
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| sdague | what manages those | 13:26 |
| alex_xu | do we need manage that? | 13:26 |
| mriedem | nova-net and neutron both populate virtual_interfaces now | 13:26 |
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| mriedem | as of 2.32 | 13:26 |
| alex_xu | thinking of whether those tag only used by instance startup | 13:26 |
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| mriedem | looking back it probably would have made more sense for cinder and neutron to have tags on their resources | 13:27 |
| mriedem | but you have things like ephemeral and swap bdms in nova | 13:27 |
| mriedem | that can be tagged | 13:27 |
| mriedem | but we probably should have tagged ports in neutron | 13:27 |
| mriedem | oh but then it wouldn't work for nova-net | 13:27 |
| mriedem | which, this spec has been around since before nova-net was deprecated | 13:28 |
| mriedem | so that's probably why that wasn't taken into consideration | 13:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | I mean you can argue both ways, one port might have a different tag when attached to a different instance, so maybe its correct | 13:28 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: true, the vifs are scoped to an instance and a port | 13:28 |
| sdague | so... here is the thing. It's not super clear to me that either of these API resources are strictly proxies that we don't need | 13:29 |
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| sdague | which makes this complicated enough, that I don't want to rush it | 13:29 |
| mriedem | what do you mean by api resources? | 13:29 |
| mriedem | os-interface and os-virtual-interfaces? | 13:29 |
| sdague | yeh | 13:29 |
| mriedem | or bdms and ports? | 13:29 |
| mriedem | ok | 13:29 |
| mriedem | os-interface GET methods are pure proxy to neutron | 13:29 |
| mriedem | to list and show ports | 13:29 |
| mriedem | only works for neutron | 13:30 |
| mriedem | os-virtual-interface has a single GET method which only works for nova-net | 13:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | is it instance specific in os-interface? | 13:30 |
| mriedem | but that's just an impl detail right now, we can make it work for neutron in ocata | 13:30 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: yes | 13:30 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: yes | 13:30 |
| mriedem | scoped to a server in both apis | 13:30 |
| sdague | right, and untangling this into something coherent feels like it's going to take time and concentration | 13:30 |
| mriedem | the show method in os-interface is goofy though, | 13:30 |
| mriedem | you pass the instance to show a port, but we don't actually use the instance, we just check that it exists and is bound to the port | 13:31 |
| sdague | I think we should just punt on this until Ocata | 13:31 |
| mriedem | i feel like i've spent several days and plenty of concentration on this since last week | 13:31 |
| sdague | mriedem: right, agreed | 13:31 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I am +1 the punt, it needs thought | 13:31 |
| alex_xu | +1 | 13:31 |
| sdague | and it still isn't super clear to folks yet | 13:31 |
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| johnthetubaguy | the create interface seems important | 13:32 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: create/delete don't change | 13:32 |
| mriedem | only the GET methods | 13:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | and the list seems useful, the others less so | 13:32 |
| mriedem | list ports? | 13:32 |
| mriedem | you can do that in neutron | 13:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | so its odd having a half baked resource | 13:32 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: sure but this, what ports does my instance have | 13:32 |
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| mriedem | so, we can make the same argument for listing floating IPs for a server | 13:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | thats a good nova question | 13:32 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: ^ | 13:32 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: nope, thats a property of a port, thats neutron bussiness | 13:33 |
| mriedem | we kind of need to shit or get off the pot with these proxies | 13:33 |
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| mriedem | the port has the device_id set | 13:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | but anyways, we seem agreed this needs careful thought | 13:33 |
| sdague | mriedem: we largely did | 13:33 |
| mriedem | neutron port-list --device_id=server.uuid | 13:33 |
| sdague | we got 95% of them out of here | 13:33 |
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| sdague | enough so that people are going to need to move to native tooling | 13:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | yup, I think we hit a lot of them | 13:33 |
| sdague | if there remains an odd API call somewhere, that's probably not going to break the bank | 13:34 |
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| sdague | and I feel like getting this right is going to be tricky enough that the only way it happens is if that's all you, johnthetubaguy, me, and alex do for the next 2 weeks | 13:34 |
| mriedem | let's punt then, that's fine | 13:34 |
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| sdague | which... I don't think is priority at this point in the cycle with so many other items | 13:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | so I am hoping to get a neutron integration roadmap/plan thing for the summit, I will tag this as a possible thing to think about as part of that, but no promises, as its lower priority | 13:35 |
| sdague | and we should plan some time at Summit to talk through the oddities both in Nova, and with neutron / cinder | 13:35 |
| alex_xu | yea, looks like there isn't reason we need rush in newton | 13:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I think thats the right thing to do | 13:35 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I am thinking through how we talk to neutron and cinder APIs for live-migrate etc | 13:36 |
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| mriedem | i honestly really don't see how this is any different than what we just did last week for 2.36 | 13:36 |
| mriedem | but ok | 13:36 |
| mriedem | let's move on | 13:37 |
| alex_xu | ok | 13:37 |
| sdague | mriedem: it's just my suggestion to punt. I just won't be able to put any real brain power here for a couple of weeks, as I really need to get some neutron devstack stuff happening | 13:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | well, I think these ones we don't agree what would have if we started over, most of the other ones its clear we wouldn't have added them if they were proposed as adds next week | 13:38 |
| sdague | which is a stack overflow all by itself | 13:38 |
| mriedem | did either of you read the spec? | 13:38 |
| mriedem | bleh, let's just move on :) | 13:39 |
| alex_xu | heh | 13:39 |
| sdague | mriedem: no... because, I have this giant other stack | 13:39 |
| sdague | which was kind of my point :) | 13:39 |
| alex_xu | anything more for priorities? | 13:40 |
| sdague | I don't think so | 13:40 |
| gmann_ | alex_xu: imageRef one | 13:40 |
| alex_xu | and we have last two microversion patch need to review | 13:40 |
| alex_xu | gmann_: ah, thanks, yes, that one | 13:41 |
| gmann_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/338802/ | 13:41 |
| alex_xu | so the question is we agree on accept empty string, right? | 13:41 |
| gmann_ | alex_xu: i will add empty string in base schema anyways for non volume bot empty string not-allowed is checked in python code | 13:42 |
| gmann_ | boot | 13:42 |
| gmann_ | so this is all good. | 13:42 |
| alex_xu | gmann_: yea | 13:42 |
| gmann_ | for glance client cleanup i have few query | 13:42 |
| gmann_ | first is- we will remove the alternate_link from image APIs links whihc shows glance links | 13:42 |
| gmann_ | bit there are other place also we have those | 13:43 |
| gmann_ | in create_image action response header - https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/servers.py#L1019-L1022 | 13:43 |
| mriedem | would any of this break anyone still using glance v1? | 13:43 |
| mriedem | if use_glance_v1=True? | 13:43 |
| mriedem | b/c if so we should wait until that's all removed | 13:43 |
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| sdague | it shouldn't, it's actually stuff that comes through to the user in odd ways | 13:43 |
| mriedem | we don't test that stack though | 13:44 |
| sdague | alternate_link has kind of been a mess | 13:44 |
| gmann_ | yea | 13:44 |
| mriedem | b/c we thought we wouldn't regress it | 13:44 |
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| sdague | mriedem: right, what I'm saying, is this should have no impact there | 13:44 |
| mriedem | should, but | 13:44 |
| mriedem | anyway, bringing it up | 13:45 |
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| hanrong1 | I had uploaded a patch set to allow "revert_resize" api to recover error instance after resize/migrate. | 13:46 |
| gmann_ | so for response header location, what we want to return. ? | 13:46 |
| gmann_ | #link https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/servers.py#L1019-L1022 | 13:46 |
| alex_xu | hanrong1: wait one more second after this topic :) | 13:46 |
| hanrong1 | sorry | 13:46 |
| hanrong1 | ok | 13:46 |
| gmann_ | and other place it is used is in notification instance info - https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/notifications/base.py#L423 | 13:46 |
| alex_xu | hanrong1: no worries | 13:46 |
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| gmann_ | these are two place we should think what to store/return | 13:47 |
| mriedem | so we're going to break 2 apis? | 13:47 |
| sdague | gmann_: oh... wow, what an abuse of the Location header | 13:47 |
| sdague | ug | 13:48 |
| mriedem | doesn't image_ref just become uuid, or is enforced to be uuid? | 13:48 |
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| sdague | ok... so | 13:48 |
| mriedem | but today it can be an int or something? | 13:48 |
| sdague | I think we can do a much smaller thing | 13:49 |
| gmann_ | my initial thought on these was to keep as it is and only go for strict input imageRef as UUID | 13:49 |
| sdague | gmann_: yeh | 13:49 |
| gmann_ | i mean only this patch - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/338802/ | 13:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | thats where I was heading, just the input validation | 13:49 |
| sdague | I think the only thing we really care about is the validation on the field passed to us | 13:49 |
| sdague | and leave everything else the same | 13:49 |
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| gmann_ | i do not want to take risk :) | 13:49 |
| gmann_ | and other place in virt driver - https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/images.py | 13:50 |
| sdague | and at some point we need to make the Location / alternate_link use a more sensible url, because randomly picking a glance internal server is probably not what you actually want | 13:50 |
| gmann_ | which i did not get fully where those are used | 13:50 |
| gmann_ | sdague: yea | 13:51 |
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| alex_xu | so we have agreement, then let's move on? | 13:51 |
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| gmann_ | may eb the time we completely cleanup glance v1 stuff | 13:51 |
| sdague | also, use of the Location header with 202 response is totally not a thing in HTTP.... but oh well | 13:51 |
| sdague | sins of the past | 13:52 |
| gmann_ | sdague: ah, nice catch :) i did not notice that | 13:52 |
| gmann_ | alex_xu: i think yea. i will update that soon | 13:52 |
| alex_xu | but give me a lot of chance to learn HTTP :) | 13:52 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/338802 - I think seems reasonable | 13:52 |
| alex_xu | gmann_: cool, thanks | 13:53 |
| sdague | and I think is all we want to change at this point | 13:53 |
| sdague | gmann_: there should be a pretty giant samples update along with that as well, right? | 13:53 |
| gmann_ | ok. | 13:53 |
| sdague | I'm actually confused how those work with that patch | 13:53 |
| gmann_ | sdague: no, it was just in 2.19 server sample | 13:53 |
| gmann_ | sdague: i think we do not have alternate_link for any API than image one | 13:54 |
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| sdague | ok | 13:54 |
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| gmann_ | and other links got cleanup in your patches of optimizing the host name etc in functional tests | 13:55 |
| alex_xu | 5 mins left | 13:55 |
| alex_xu | I forget the time | 13:55 |
| gmann_ | alex_xu: we can move | 13:55 |
| alex_xu | #topic Open | 13:55 |
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| alex_xu | hanrong1: your turn | 13:56 |
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| hanrong1 | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/334747/ | 13:56 |
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| hanrong1 | I had uploaded a patch set to allow "revert_resize" api to recover error instance after resize/migrate. I want to discuss whether this modification need microversio | 13:56 |
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| songruixia | I also have a bp need review | 13:57 |
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| songruixia | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/add-ratio-to-hypervisor-show | 13:57 |
| hanrong1 | I think it don't need a microversion, because restful interface is not changed. | 13:57 |
| sdague | alex_xu / johnthetubaguy - is this something we'd backport as a bug fix? | 13:57 |
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| sdague | hanrong1: behavior changes | 13:57 |
| mriedem | songruixia: that will have to be proposed as a spec in ocata | 13:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | it feels like we shouldn't backport it, and I would want to know where its supported, feels like a microversion, but it also feels borderline | 13:58 |
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| mriedem | it's a behavior change yeah | 13:59 |
| alex_xu | hanrong1: have a email | 13:59 |
| mriedem | so needs signaling | 13:59 |
| alex_xu | do we need continue that on maillist? | 13:59 |
| mriedem | same as tdurakov's api change to make live migratione pre-check async | 13:59 |
| songruixia | i has post a spec #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/350348/ | 13:59 |
| songruixia | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/350348/ | 13:59 |
| songruixia | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/350348/ | 13:59 |
| songruixia | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/350348/ | 13:59 |
| songruixia | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/350348/ | 13:59 |
| alex_xu | due to we have 1 min left... | 13:59 |
| songruixia | sorry , | 14:00 |
| gmann_ | sdague: you mean backport of imageRef things? | 14:00 |
| mriedem | songruixia: then sit tight, we aren't reviewing specs for ocata right now | 14:00 |
| mriedem | we'll do that after ocata opens up | 14:00 |
| hanrong1 | alex_xu: yea, continue with maillist | 14:00 |
| sdague | gmann_: no, about the revert resize | 14:00 |
| alex_xu | sorry, we run out of time, let us back to nova channel or maillist | 14:00 |
| gmann_ | sdague: ok | 14:00 |
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| alex_xu | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 3 14:00:27 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-08-03-13.00.html | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-08-03-13.00.txt | 14:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-08-03-13.00.log.html | 14:00 |
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| alex_xu | songruixia: people will begin to review spec in ocata open | 14:04 |
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| therve | #startmeeting heat | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 3 15:00:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is therve. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'heat' | 15:00 |
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| therve | #topic Roll call | 15:00 |
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| jdob | o/ | 15:00 |
| Drago | o/ | 15:00 |
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| duvarenkov | hi | 15:00 |
| ramishra | hi | 15:00 |
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| cwolferh | o/ | 15:00 |
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| ochuprykov | hi | 15:00 |
| spzala | hi | 15:01 |
| ricolin | 0/ | 15:01 |
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| therve | skraynev, ramishra ? | 15:01 |
| jdob | ramishra already said hi :) | 15:02 |
| ramishra | hi again;) | 15:02 |
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| therve | Oh sorry I missed you :D | 15:02 |
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| therve | #topic Adding items to agenda | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Adding items to agenda (Meeting topic: heat)" | 15:02 | |
| therve | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282016-08-03_1500_UTC.29 | 15:03 |
| therve | #topic Gate status | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Gate status (Meeting topic: heat)" | 15:03 | |
| therve | OK, our favorite topic | 15:03 |
| therve | We got one issue with purge tests | 15:03 |
| therve | Hint: we can have several tests doing purge, because they touch all the stacks in the db | 15:03 |
| therve | Maybe we should write down something | 15:04 |
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| therve | s/can/can't | 15:04 |
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| skrainev | o/ | 15:04 |
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| ramishra | one more issue, I increased the sighup timeout to 120 secs for the failing test, but it seems it's not enough at times. | 15:05 |
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| ramishra | should we increse it more or check why it's taking more time? | 15:05 |
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| cwolferh | what's the issue with the purge? (i've also thought that being able to purge per stack_id would be nice so there is less going on per transaction) | 15:06 |
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| therve | cwolferh, Well it purges stacks created by the other tests, so asserts are wrong | 15:06 |
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| therve | ramishra, I'm not seeing that one so often TBH | 15:06 |
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| cwolferh | therve, ah, ok, just too soon | 15:06 |
| ramishra | yeah, it's not often, but there are few instances I've seen it | 15:06 |
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| ramishra | so probably we should worry about it later | 15:07 |
| ramishra | :) | 15:07 |
| therve | ramishra, Yeah... Could we skip 2 of the 3 tests? | 15:07 |
| therve | It's not like we care that much about the others, and code is mostly shared | 15:08 |
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| therve | #topic N3 status | 15:08 |
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| therve | #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/newton-3 | 15:09 |
| therve | bugs start to get in, bp not so much | 15:09 |
| therve | Good progress on conditions, please review that :) | 15:10 |
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| therve | ricolin, external resources? I left some comments | 15:10 |
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| skrainev | therve: what is release date? | 15:10 |
| ricolin | therve: OK, will checkit | 15:10 |
| therve | Worried about convergence. If the cancel stuff is not fixed by n3, we'll have to revert back | 15:10 |
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| skrainev | For n3 | 15:10 |
| therve | skrainev, Sep 1st I believe | 15:10 |
| zaneb | o/ sorry I'm late | 15:11 |
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| skrainev | Oh. Not so much time... | 15:11 |
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| therve | 4 weeks | 15:11 |
| therve | So yeah review stuff :) | 15:11 |
| therve | I hope we don't have too many late things to put in | 15:12 |
| skrainev | Ok :) | 15:12 |
| therve | #topic PTL vacation | 15:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTL vacation (Meeting topic: heat)" | 15:12 | |
| therve | So related to that | 15:12 |
| therve | I'm away next 3 weeks (hooray for me) | 15:13 |
| therve | If someone could pick up stuff, that'd be nice | 15:13 |
| therve | At least IRC meetings, possibly a bit of bug triage would be good though that happens most of the time | 15:13 |
| therve | ** crickets ** | 15:14 |
| skrainev | Good practice for new PTL :) | 15:14 |
| zaneb | I could chair this meeting but I can't do the other time | 15:14 |
| ramishra | I can do the 800 UTC one | 15:14 |
| therve | Sharing load is good too :) | 15:15 |
| zaneb | ramishra: sold | 15:15 |
| therve | ramishra, zaneb thanks! | 15:15 |
| ricolin | I can help on both:) | 15:15 |
| therve | #topic Conversion stacks to convergence engine | 15:15 |
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| therve | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280836/ | 15:15 |
| ochuprykov | please pay attention to that patch! | 15:16 |
| therve | ochuprykov, So what's up? Need reviews ? | 15:16 |
| ochuprykov | it is on review for quite a long time | 15:16 |
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| ochuprykov | therve: yes | 15:16 |
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| therve | OK :) Please do so! | 15:17 |
| therve | #topic In-tree devstack | 15:18 |
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| therve | I added that one | 15:18 |
| therve | We added in-tree devstack but it seems it doesn't work? | 15:18 |
| therve | Anyone care to pick it up? It'd be sad to release in that state | 15:18 |
| zaneb | in our tree or in devstack's tree? | 15:19 |
| therve | zaneb, our tree | 15:19 |
| ricolin | ours | 15:19 |
| therve | We have an experimental job to check I believe | 15:20 |
| therve | OK nobody cares I see :) | 15:21 |
| therve | #topic Open discussion | 15:22 |
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| therve | What up | 15:22 |
| ricolin | Vote for sessions:) | 15:22 |
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| ricolin | Me and Anant have a session"Heat Optimization" | 15:22 |
| therve | Yay Barcelona | 15:23 |
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| ricolin | Your land! | 15:24 |
| therve | Kinda I guess | 15:24 |
| ricolin | well | 15:24 |
| ricolin | close | 15:24 |
| ricolin | :) | 15:24 |
| therve | Anything else? | 15:25 |
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| therve | 3 | 15:26 |
| therve | 2 | 15:26 |
| therve | 1 | 15:26 |
| therve | #endmeeting | 15:26 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 3 15:26:31 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:26 |
| therve | Thanks all | 15:26 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-08-03-15.00.html | 15:26 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-08-03-15.00.txt | 15:26 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-08-03-15.00.log.html | 15:26 |
| ricolin | thanks | 15:26 |
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| sdake | #startmeeting kolla | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 3 16:00:18 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sdake. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 16:00 |
| sdake | #topic rollcall | 16:00 |
| britthouser | 0/ | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:00 | |
| duonghq | o/ | 16:00 |
| inc0_ | o/ | 16:00 |
| pbourke | hello | 16:00 |
| wirehead_ | ( ˘▽˘)っ♨ | 16:00 |
| rhallisey | hey | 16:00 |
| sdake | wirehead_ ftw :) | 16:00 |
| pbourke | ha wirehead_ | 16:00 |
| coolsvap | o/ | 16:00 |
| sdake | lets make it harder ;) | 16:00 |
| wirehead_ | No, you are not going to make it harder by taking away my tea. | 16:01 |
| akwasnie | Hi | 16:01 |
| Jeffrey4l | o/ | 16:01 |
| sdake | gatoraid is thirst aid | 16:01 |
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| sdake | Daviey you here? | 16:02 |
| sdake | #topic announcements | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:02 | |
| inc0_ | I have one | 16:02 |
| sdake | shoot | 16:03 |
| inc0_ | We just got access to 132 hardware nodes in osic cluster | 16:03 |
| inc0_ | literally 10min ago | 16:03 |
| sdake | hot | 16:03 |
| Jeffrey4l | thats cool | 16:03 |
| sdake | i did see the credentails notification but haven't yet read the email | 16:03 |
| britthouser | w00t! | 16:03 |
| inc0_ | I've sent credentials to sdake and rhallisey, we'll waterfall them from there | 16:03 |
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| inc0_ | because of all the schedule change, we got 4 weeks instead of 3 | 16:04 |
| sdake | when waterfalling please use secure email rather then irc - tia :) | 16:04 |
| inc0_ | which is cool | 16:04 |
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| sdake | cool 4 weeks is great | 16:05 |
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| sdake | i dont have any specific announcements | 16:05 |
| inc0_ | let's talk some more about plan later in the meeting | 16:05 |
| sdake | anyone else from community have any? | 16:05 |
| sdake | #topic osic cluster planning | 16:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "osic cluster planning (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:06 | |
| inc0_ | ok | 16:06 |
| sdake | at midcycle we defined a whole slew of test scenarios | 16:06 |
| sdake | inc0_ mind linking those? | 16:06 |
| inc0_ | so, for anyone not familiar with topic | 16:06 |
| sdake | my bookmarks are busted | 16:06 |
| inc0_ | sure, 1min | 16:06 |
| inc0_ | we got 132 hardware nodes, strong ones, 10gig networking everywhere and 12 intel ssds each | 16:06 |
| inc0_ | 256 gig of RAM | 16:06 |
| inc0_ | so nice plaything | 16:07 |
| inc0_ | we need to make use of them and test whatever we can test | 16:07 |
| inc0_ | and then come back to osic board with results and "publications" | 16:07 |
| inc0_ | publication might be a whitepaper, blog, video, bugs on launchpad | 16:07 |
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| inc0_ | anything that will prove that we used cluster for the betterment of community | 16:08 |
| sdake | publications as in plural? | 16:08 |
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| sdake | I thought we agreed on one whitepaper with analysis | 16:08 |
| inc0_ | sdake, it doesn't have to be anything really | 16:09 |
| inc0_ | just some public outcome | 16:09 |
| inc0_ | even blueprints and bugs will be ok | 16:09 |
| sdake | cool - well I think a whitepaper would have the biggest impact in terms of communicating that kolla can actually run at scale | 16:09 |
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| sdake | (unless it can't, in which case bugs and blueprints would work:) | 16:09 |
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| inc0_ | yeah | 16:10 |
| * coolsvap echo | 16:10 | |
| inc0_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-N-midcycle-osic | 16:10 |
| sdake | sup coolsvap | 16:10 |
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| coolsvap | echo the same :) | 16:10 |
| sdake | oh duh on my part | 16:11 |
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| sdake | sorry - early here :) | 16:11 |
| sdake | and had a drinking contest lsat night with my wife | 16:11 |
| sdake | she won | 16:11 |
| inc0_ | so first thing we need is to deploy bare metal | 16:11 |
| sdake | shame sean isn't around | 16:11 |
| sdake | i have been following the work on bifrost and it looks close | 16:12 |
| britthouser | I thought OSIC had their own baremetal | 16:12 |
| inc0_ | any volunteers to lead this topic? | 16:12 |
| sdake | I am not sure if its ready to go or not | 16:12 |
| inc0_ | britthouser, what I mean is to install base operating system | 16:12 |
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| inc0_ | we have IPMI access | 16:12 |
| sdake | britthouser osic uses bifrost from what i've seen | 16:12 |
| britthouser | Ok I'm with you now | 16:13 |
| sdake | pbourke since your fresh off PTO - up for the job? | 16:13 |
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| pbourke | sure | 16:13 |
| coolsvap | i can help | 16:13 |
| inc0_ | we have several options on this front | 16:13 |
| britthouser | OSIC uses cobbler it looks like | 16:13 |
| britthouser | https://github.com/osic/ref-impl/blob/master/documents/bare_metal_provisioning.md | 16:13 |
| inc0_ | well, it's not osic per se | 16:14 |
| sdake | britthouser cool - didn't know that | 16:14 |
| inc0_ | we can use whatever | 16:14 |
| sdake | inc0_ lets hear the options? | 16:14 |
| inc0_ | this guide is good, I tested it over and over again | 16:14 |
| inc0_ | we can try our experimental bifrost | 16:14 |
| britthouser | Lets keep experiment with bifrost for the last week | 16:14 |
| inc0_ | fair enough | 16:14 |
| inc0_ | so we can just follow this guide | 16:15 |
| britthouser | use what is known to wok so we can get to the big stuff first. | 16:15 |
| inc0_ | my personal request | 16:15 |
| sdake | ya britthouser good point | 16:15 |
| pbourke | sdake: sean-k-mooney may want to drive it seen as he's done the bifrost work but happy to work with him on it. same timezones also | 16:15 |
| sdake | britthouser as much as Id' like to see bifrost worked out - I think your proposal makes good sense | 16:15 |
| inc0_ | for anyone who follows this guide, record times and stuff and let me know if guide is lacking in any place | 16:15 |
| inc0_ | this guide was prepared specifically for hardware we're dealing with | 16:15 |
| sdake | nice | 16:16 |
| britthouser | I can help with baremetal stuff between now and Friday. I'm travleing for work next week and probbly wouldn't be available much | 16:16 |
| sdake | ^^ britthouser knows a whole bunch about bare metal deployment | 16:16 |
| inc0_ | so once we deploy it once, we don't need to repave ideally | 16:16 |
| inc0_ | all glory to kolla! and her containers | 16:16 |
| rhallisey | :) | 16:17 |
| sdake | ya we repave the last week to sort out bifrost at scale | 16:17 |
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| pbourke | sounds good | 16:17 |
| sdake | and give sean the reins (if he is willing) at that point | 16:17 |
| britthouser | So me and you pbourke? | 16:17 |
| pbourke | britthouser: lets do it | 16:17 |
| inc0_ | I'll send you creds in a minute | 16:18 |
| britthouser | thx | 16:18 |
| inc0_ | pm with emails plz | 16:18 |
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| sdake | ya - i'd like to see sean's work on bifrost not interrupted with setup of osic if possible | 16:18 |
| sdake | unless he wants to be involved | 16:18 |
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| inc0_ | ok, that's it | 16:19 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l you need creds as well - i'll send those along | 16:19 |
| inc0_ | from me | 16:19 |
| inc0_ | I'm here to help | 16:19 |
| sdake | inc0_ I think we a ren't qiet done with this topic | 16:19 |
| inc0_ | I dealt with this hardware so ping me | 16:19 |
| sdake | who else needs or wants creds? | 16:19 |
| Jeffrey4l | thanks. | 16:19 |
| inc0_ | I'll send them over to whole core team | 16:19 |
| sdake | inc0_ sounds good | 16:20 |
| sdake | anyone outside of core team want access? | 16:20 |
| britthouser | o/ | 16:20 |
| sdake | we already established you britthouser :) | 16:20 |
| inc0_ | britthouser, obviously;) pm me with email plz | 16:20 |
| sdake | inc0_ can ou link our etherpad discussion from midcycle? | 16:21 |
| inc0_ | already did | 16:21 |
| sdake | oh | 16:21 |
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| sdake | can you link again - i don't see it in scrollback | 16:22 |
| sdake | i keep short scrollback logs by default | 16:22 |
| Jeffrey4l | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-N-midcycle-osic | 16:22 |
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| sdake | thanks Jeffrey4l | 16:22 |
| sdake | can folks open that up | 16:22 |
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| sdake | inc0_ line 22 is wrong | 16:23 |
| britthouser | I'm guessing the dates have changed? | 16:23 |
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| britthouser | and lin 1 | 16:23 |
| inc0_ | yes | 16:23 |
| inc0_ | 4 weeks from today | 16:24 |
| pbourke | is rally testing useful to kolla? | 16:24 |
| sdake | pbourke i think that could be helpful yes | 16:24 |
| inc0_ | as a validation after deployment, I'd say yes | 16:24 |
| inc0_ | and results can be published later | 16:24 |
| berendt | pbourke yes for tests after deployments | 16:24 |
| sdake | so what I'd like to see is usae of cluster as much as possible | 16:24 |
| inc0_ | all the pretty htmls | 16:24 |
| pbourke | guess can also show performance impact of containers(if any) | 16:24 |
| sdake | pbourke that would be hard to show - we would have to compare it to something | 16:25 |
| inc0_ | and features | 16:25 |
| sdake | and comparisons just end in a shit show | 16:25 |
| inc0_ | like live migration and stuff | 16:25 |
| sdake | who is doing #3 | 16:25 |
| sdake | if your interested, please register yourself ;) | 16:26 |
| Jeffrey4l | we need test with tempest and rally to generate a full report. | 16:26 |
| berendt | Jeffrey4l there is a tempest integration inside rally | 16:26 |
| Jeffrey4l | berendt, yep. | 16:26 |
| Jeffrey4l | I can take 4, if no one take it. :) | 16:27 |
| sdake | berendt you interested in credentials for osic cluster to assist with scale testing | 16:27 |
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| sdake | inc0_ what are the proepr dates for line 23 | 16:28 |
| berendt | sdake assisting would be fine, but I think I do not have the time to take over whole tests | 16:28 |
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| sdake | berendt roger - its up to you - not sure if there was something you would like to validate or not in our 3 week window | 16:28 |
| inc0_ | sdake, I'll confirm and correct dates | 16:28 |
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| sdake | who is taking on line 5? | 16:29 |
| sdake | rather item 5 | 16:29 |
| sdake | ceph caching layer | 16:29 |
| berendt | I added "HA tests" to postinstall testing, that is something that is important for my own environment and I am doing a lot of tests there at the moment | 16:29 |
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| sdake | berendt if you can help there - that would be fantastic | 16:29 |
| britthouser | I can work on 5 or 6 if I'm back from travel by then...just not sure what dates those will fall | 16:30 |
| sdake | berendt people always question our HA - and a definitive answer noe way or another would help us either rprove it works or fix what is busted | 16:30 |
| sdake | britthouser roger - schedule is fluid as are who will be doing the work | 16:30 |
| rhallisey | berendt, maybe team up with a deployment and test HA as one of the tests after a deplo | 16:30 |
| coolsvap | britthouser: add your name :) | 16:30 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l can you take #8 (reconfigure liberty) | 16:30 |
| sdake | and I'll take #9 | 16:30 |
| Jeffrey4l | sdake, np | 16:31 |
| sdake | (after you fixed any bugs found :) | 16:31 |
| inc0_ | so I propose standing tmux session | 16:31 |
| inc0_ | on first node | 16:31 |
| inc0_ | so we don't really need to do this separately | 16:31 |
| sdake | see what i di dthere - you got the hard part :) | 16:31 |
| berendt | rhallisey yes makes sense, but we have to make all services HA ready first. At lease MongoDB is missing at the moment and I think Elasicsearch is also not HA ready at the moment. | 16:31 |
| inc0_ | tmux + hangouts permanently would be great coop tool | 16:31 |
| sdake | tmux is good | 16:31 |
| inc0_ | berendt, known gaps can be ommited | 16:31 |
| sdake | inc0_ agree re gaps | 16:32 |
| inc0_ | so let's figure out deployment node | 16:32 |
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| inc0_ | and use it as a gateway for everyone | 16:32 |
| sdake | berendt if you can take #10 that would rock | 16:32 |
| inc0_ | also use tmux at all times so we won't step on each other toes | 16:32 |
| Jeffrey4l | 4 and 5 almost the same. may be we can work together rhallisey :D | 16:32 |
| rhallisey | Jeffrey4l, sure | 16:32 |
| berendt | inc0_ ok, than I volunteer to write down some basic HA tests that should be tested | 16:32 |
| mdnadeem_home | can any one post the link where task number define | 16:32 |
| coolsvap | i think Jeffrey4l and I can work together more | 16:33 |
| berendt | this should be #10 | 16:33 |
| inc0_ | berendt, much appreciated | 16:33 |
| Jeffrey4l | coolsvap, that's cool | 16:33 |
| inc0_ | let's make use of our global distribution:) | 16:33 |
| britthouser | mdnadeem_home: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-N-midcycle-osic | 16:33 |
| inc0_ | and work around the clock | 16:33 |
| mdnadeem_home | britthouser, thanks | 16:33 |
| coolsvap | we also need to set the timezone overlap so that we are using it at most | 16:33 |
| sdake | berendt writing down the test cases would be good so they are documented, but can you execute them too, or not enough time? | 16:33 |
| pbourke | coolsvap: I'll help you out with 7) if that's cool | 16:34 |
| inc0_ | I suggest we make leaders based on geo;) | 16:34 |
| coolsvap | pbourke: sure | 16:34 |
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| berendt | sdake I think I can do parts of the tests, but always plan a backup for me | 16:34 |
| sdake | no need to have leaders per geo | 16:34 |
| sdake | we all work well together | 16:34 |
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| pbourke | inc0_: also need somewhere good to take notes | 16:34 |
| coolsvap | no leaders just we need to be aware | 16:34 |
| pbourke | inc0_: etherpadd too messy? | 16:34 |
| inc0_ | sdake, by "leaders" I mean someone who will know what's happening and will be person to talk to | 16:34 |
| berendt | And I think my location is perfect for postinstall tests, I am from Europe | 16:35 |
| inc0_ | berendt, same as pbourke | 16:35 |
| sdake | inc0_ ok that makes sense then | 16:35 |
| inc0_ | I'll make this section in ehterpad | 16:35 |
| Jeffrey4l | suggestion: 1. kolla deployment is fast. I think kolla deploy the 100 nodes in 1 hours. so deployment is not a big deal. | 16:36 |
| sdake | inc0_ we have US, EMEA, and APAC | 16:36 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l one thing we need to do soon is record a list of information we want to capture in each of the test scenarios | 16:36 |
| sdake | we hae part of that on line 55 | 16:36 |
| Jeffrey4l | yes. | 16:36 |
| sdake | but we need more i think | 16:36 |
| sdake | ok I think we have a basic plan in place | 16:37 |
| sdake | lets iterate on the mailing list | 16:37 |
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| sdake | inc0_ care to start a thread? | 16:37 |
| inc0_ | let's use next few days to figure out cooperation model | 16:37 |
| inc0_ | will do | 16:38 |
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| sdake | i'll take on filling out lines 55+ today | 16:38 |
| sdake | with something a little more concrete | 16:38 |
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| inc0_ | ok | 16:38 |
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| inc0_ | britthouser, will you be able to start deployment of stuff today? | 16:39 |
| inc0_ | I'll help you | 16:39 |
| sdake | mdnadeem_home you will need credentials | 16:39 |
| mdnadeem_home | I can take part in point 7(upgrade), | 16:39 |
| mdnadeem_home | Please provide me credential :) | 16:40 |
| sdake | mdnadeem_home can you send your email in a pm inc0_ so he can send you the info? | 16:40 |
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| mdnadeem_home | sdake, sure I will | 16:40 |
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| Jeffrey4l | isn't the US guys has the timezone UTC-x? why u have UTC+x? | 16:41 |
| britthouser | I was just trying to figure out that myself @Jeffery4l | 16:42 |
| rhallisey | ya britthouser was right | 16:42 |
| sdake | ok | 16:42 |
| sdake | cool | 16:42 |
| sdake | well that was fantastic planning - now the tough part - following through :) | 16:42 |
| pbourke | given myself and britthouser are on step #1 when exactly can we kick off | 16:42 |
| sdake | pbourke asap | 16:43 |
| rhallisey | inc0_, sound the horn | 16:43 |
| sdake | pbourke the machines are ready to rock | 16:43 |
| duonghq | Do we have any backlog for planing and working? | 16:43 |
| sdake | duonghq you mean for milestone #3? | 16:43 |
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| inc0_ | ok core team should get mail soon on gerrit email addr;) | 16:43 |
| duonghq | sdake: I mean this osic | 16:43 |
| sdake | duonghq its in the etherpad | 16:44 |
| sdake | duonghq i've really got to move the agenda along, we are running short on time | 16:44 |
| inc0_ | duonghq, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-N-midcycle-osic | 16:44 |
| sdake | can we discuss further during overflow in #openstack-kolla? | 16:44 |
| sdake | #topic openstack-kolla | 16:44 |
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| sdake | #undo | 16:44 |
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| sdake | too many things :) | 16:44 |
| rhallisey | ha | 16:44 |
| sdake | #topic kolla-kubernetes | 16:44 |
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| rhallisey | ok so | 16:45 |
| rhallisey | focus is on neutron + nova | 16:45 |
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| rhallisey | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-kubernetes/+spec/nova-kubernetes | 16:45 |
| rhallisey | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-kubernetes/+spec/neutron-kubernetes | 16:45 |
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| duonghq | sdake, inc0_ I know this etherpad but I need something more details, but I will ask you later | 16:45 |
| rhallisey | there are work items filled out in the neutron bp | 16:45 |
| sdake | if we have any new contributors that want in pretty much on ground floor development, kolla-kubernetes is the place to contribute | 16:45 |
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| sdake | duonghq lets discuss in overflow - that is also logged | 16:46 |
| rhallisey | I also added bps for other services | 16:46 |
| wirehead_ | I'll start filling out some more of the BP's with concrete places to get started. | 16:46 |
| rhallisey | for example heat, cinder, ect... | 16:46 |
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| srwilkers_ | as a new contributor, i think those opportunities would be awesome | 16:46 |
| sdake | srwilkers_ welcome to the party! | 16:46 |
| srwilkers_ | and our organization is looking to proof out some concepts with kolla-kubernetes | 16:47 |
| srwilkers_ | thanks :D | 16:47 |
| rhallisey | srwilkers_, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-kubernetes/+spec/heat-kubernetes | 16:47 |
| britthouser | Is there a template to follow when working on these rhallisey? or is it breaking new ground? | 16:47 |
| rhallisey | that's a goo dplace to start | 16:47 |
| srwilkers_ | thanks rhallisey | 16:47 |
| sdake | srwilkers_ rhallisey is unofficially leading the kolla-kubernetes effort | 16:47 |
| rhallisey | britthouser, you can follow the existing work in place | 16:47 |
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| rhallisey | so mariadb, glance, keystone, ect... | 16:47 |
| sdake | rhallisey you can either ping him for ideas for getting ramped up or any of the other kolla-kubernetes devs | 16:48 |
| britthouser | ok thx rhallisey | 16:48 |
| inc0_ | srwilkers_, we'll be preparing demos during next couple of days if you're interested | 16:48 |
| sdake | rather srwilkers_ ^^ | 16:48 |
| rhallisey | the only piece that's not in place is the ansible orchestration on the front end | 16:48 |
| rhallisey | but don't worry about that yet | 16:48 |
| srwilkers_ | absolutely :D | 16:48 |
| wirehead_ | Oh, so we closed the general openstack-services blueprint. Because things are mostly there and behaving. | 16:48 |
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| sdake | wirehead_ ya its typical to close a blueprint once its finished | 16:48 |
| sdake | wirehead_ if something needs fine tuning another blueprint can be opened | 16:48 |
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| wirehead_ | Okay, that's how it should work. I was going to say that maybe we should do exactly that. :) | 16:49 |
| rhallisey | to reiterate, new contributors I'd recommend picking a service in here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-kubernetes | 16:49 |
| rhallisey | and ask questions in #openstack-kolla | 16:49 |
| srwilkers_ | great, thanks | 16:49 |
| rhallisey | ok all set sdake | 16:50 |
| sdake | cool | 16:50 |
| rhallisey | srwilkers_, welcome :) | 16:50 |
| sdake | in terms of work items, i see we are in need of some neutron work - but some work there has merged | 16:50 |
| mdnadeem_home | rhallisey, Can you please assign this bp to me https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-kubernetes/+spec/rabbitmq-kubernetes | 16:50 |
| rhallisey | mdnadeem_home, sure | 16:51 |
| mdnadeem_home | rhallisey, Thanks | 16:51 |
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| sdake | mdnadeem_home one quick note - i think it makes sense tot set a short deadline on the basic services to unblock others | 16:51 |
| sdake | is 1 week doable for you? | 16:51 |
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| mdnadeem_home | sdake, yup, I ll try | 16:52 |
| sdake | obligatory yoda quote inserted here :) | 16:52 |
| mdnadeem_home | sdake: :) | 16:52 |
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| sdake | ok anything else from kolla-kubernetes cats? | 16:52 |
| duonghq | Do we have any deadline on *-kubernetes? | 16:52 |
| sdake | duonghq compute kit in 1-4 weeks | 16:52 |
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| rhallisey | no so much a deadline, but that we'd like to have a demo son | 16:53 |
| rhallisey | soon* | 16:53 |
| duonghq | thank sdake, rhallisey | 16:53 |
| rhallisey | like within ~2 weeks ideally | 16:53 |
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| wirehead_ | Yeah. And a lot of those services are at least mostly there. Just things like making sure that all of the details of operation are taken care of. | 16:53 |
| sdake | lets move like I type - fast with lots of mistakes | 16:54 |
| sdake | and clean up the mess after we get a working compute kit | 16:54 |
| mdnadeem_home | cool idea ^^ | 16:54 |
| sdake | wirehead_ thoughts on that approach? | 16:54 |
| wirehead_ | Well, that's mostly how we've been going. | 16:55 |
| wirehead_ | :) | 16:55 |
| sdake | good | 16:55 |
| rhallisey | sounds good | 16:55 |
| sdake | the code base isn't stable and we don't claim it as such | 16:55 |
| sdake | while its an official deliverable in the governance repo, its on an independent release model | 16:55 |
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| sdake | we are expected to release on milestones and whatnot | 16:56 |
| sdake | but not follow the freeze policies we have in place for kolla-ansible | 16:56 |
| sdake | any questions? | 16:57 |
| sdake | #topic open discussion | 16:57 |
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| sdake | 3 minutes | 16:57 |
| sdake | - apologies planning for osic cluster took so long leaving little time for open discussion | 16:58 |
| sdake | if there is significant discussion needed, we can overflow into #openstack-kolla | 16:58 |
| coolsvap | +1 | 16:58 |
| duonghq | o/ | 16:58 |
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| sdake | ok then i'll close meeting | 16:59 |
| sdake | thanks everyone for coming | 16:59 |
| duonghq | We run out of time, thanks | 16:59 |
| pbourke | bye | 16:59 |
| sdake | and contributing to the osic work especially :) | 16:59 |
| rhallisey | thanks | 16:59 |
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| sdake | and a big thank you to osic for loaning us gear | 16:59 |
| mdnadeem_home | Thank you all | 17:00 |
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| sdake | inc0_ if you can send me contact info for who organized that, I'd like to send them a personal thank you | 17:00 |
| sdake | thanks :) | 17:00 |
| sdake | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 3 17:00:22 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-08-03-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-08-03-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-08-03-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
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| HenryG | #startmeeting networking_lib | 17:30 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 3 17:30:15 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is HenryG. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:30 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_lib)" | 17:30 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_lib' | 17:30 |
| boden | howdy | 17:30 |
| HenryG | boden: hi | 17:31 |
| HenryG | dougwig is out this week | 17:31 |
| boden | ok | 17:31 |
| HenryG | Let's go through your list | 17:31 |
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| HenryG | #topic Releases | 17:31 |
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| HenryG | I think we must be constantly "release ready" | 17:32 |
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| HenryG | Except when we know there is a breakage (like today) | 17:32 |
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| boden | HenryG: understood, I’ll have to take greater care to follow-up on merged code more quickly | 17:33 |
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| HenryG | Code that may not be ready for release without some additional checking/testing/scrubbing/etc. should probably be made private until it is ready. | 17:34 |
| boden | HenryG: ack, for some reason I was thinking we’d do a pass of “clean up” before a release | 17:35 |
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| HenryG | That would be nice, but I don't think we can have that luxury. | 17:35 |
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| HenryG | Ready for next topic? | 17:36 |
| boden | yes | 17:36 |
| HenryG | #topic Infra plumbing | 17:36 |
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| HenryG | I think this is in place now. | 17:36 |
| HenryG | There is a periodic job against neutron-lib master. | 17:36 |
| boden | HenryG: how are you monitoring that periodic job? | 17:37 |
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| HenryG | First I check the neutron failures graphs. | 17:37 |
| HenryG | #link http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 17:37 |
| HenryG | The third graph is the periodic jobs. | 17:38 |
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| boden | does that run pep8 too? | 17:38 |
| HenryG | No | 17:38 |
| boden | I thought we discussed doing that as well? Perhaps as a periodic job | 17:39 |
| HenryG | The latest job logs are here: | 17:39 |
| HenryG | #link http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/periodic-neutron-py34-with-neutron-lib-master/ | 17:39 |
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| boden | got it | 17:40 |
| HenryG | boden: You can propose to add pep8 as a periodic job | 17:40 |
| boden | ok: I can look into how that’s done | 17:40 |
| boden | nothing else on this topic from me ATM | 17:41 |
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| HenryG | boden: like https://review.openstack.org/338603 | 17:41 |
| boden | thanks | 17:41 |
| HenryG | I think the 3rd topic is the same as the 1st? | 17:42 |
| boden | agree | 17:42 |
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| boden | at least you answered as part of 1st :) | 17:42 |
| HenryG | OK, let's get back to fixing and merging | 17:42 |
| HenryG | #endmeeting | 17:42 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 3 17:42:55 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_lib/2016/networking_lib.2016-08-03-17.30.html | 17:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_lib/2016/networking_lib.2016-08-03-17.30.txt | 17:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_lib/2016/networking_lib.2016-08-03-17.30.log.html | 17:43 |
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| RaginBajin | #startmeeting operators_ops_tools_monitoring | 18:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 3 18:59:44 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is RaginBajin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:59 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'operators_ops_tools_monitoring' | 18:59 |
| RaginBajin | Agenda can be found here - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osops-irc-meeting-20160803 | 19:00 |
| RaginBajin | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osops-irc-meeting-20160803 | 19:00 |
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| RaginBajin | o/ | 19:03 |
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| RaginBajin | If no one is here in the next 5 minutes, I will be closing the meeting. | 19:09 |
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| RaginBajin | #endmeeting | 19:14 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 3 19:14:22 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:14 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_ops_tools_monitoring/2016/operators_ops_tools_monitoring.2016-08-03-18.59.html | 19:14 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_ops_tools_monitoring/2016/operators_ops_tools_monitoring.2016-08-03-18.59.txt | 19:14 |
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