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| elisha_r | hi | 08:00 |
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| ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 08:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 15 08:00:52 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 08:00 |
| eyalb | hi | 08:01 |
| ifat_afek | hi everyone :-) | 08:01 |
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| idan_hefetz | Hi! | 08:01 |
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| alexey_weyl | Hello Vitragians :) | 08:01 |
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| ifat_afek | Our agenda today: | 08:02 |
| ifat_afek | * Vitrage POC Demo in OPNFV Berlin summit | 08:02 |
| ifat_afek | * Status and Updates | 08:02 |
| ifat_afek | * Open Discussion | 08:02 |
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| danoffek | hi | 08:02 |
| ifat_afek | Let's have a quick meeting, as we are all busy with preparing for the OPNFV POC demo | 08:02 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Vitrage POC Demo in OPNFV Berlin summit | 08:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Vitrage POC Demo in OPNFV Berlin summit (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:03 | |
| ifat_afek | We are still preparing Vitrage demo for OPNF Berlin summit. | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | Demo outline: (changed from last week) | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | -We will have two green hosts | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | -We will simulate using nagios host NIC failure on one of the hosts | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | -Nova notifier POC will call nova force-down API | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | -Nova will send a notification about it to the message bus. The notification will be converted to ceilometer event, and a corresponding aodh event-alarm will be raised | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | -Aodh alarm will cause deduced alarms on the instances, and then on the "application service" | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | -We will show RCA tree of all of the above | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | -We will show "fail over" and status changes of the host, instance and service | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | The demo is not final yet, but we are working on it | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Status and Updates | 08:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status and Updates (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:04 | |
| ifat_afek | Note that the call for papers for Barcelona is now open: | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/call-for-speakers/ | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | Who wants to update? | 08:04 |
| eyalb | I will update | 08:05 |
| eyalb | still waiting for the guys from redhat to approve my request to add vitrage to rdo | 08:05 |
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| eyalb | checking the rpms i build to see that installation works | 08:06 |
| eyalb | thats all | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | eyalb: thanks | 08:06 |
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| elisha_r | I'm working on OPNFV as well... | 08:06 |
| idan_hefetz | preparing for OPNV, I have manually installed vitrage on setup with multiple computes | 08:08 |
| idan_hefetz | Evertying works as expected :) | 08:08 |
| idan_hefetz | That's it | 08:08 |
| ifat_afek | idan_hefetz: cool | 08:08 |
| alexey_weyl | I will update | 08:09 |
| alexey_weyl | pushed the zabbix datasource and their tests | 08:09 |
| alexey_weyl | written notificators for neutron.network and neutron.port | 08:10 |
| alexey_weyl | working on zabbixs different installations in different environments | 08:10 |
| alexey_weyl | working on the tempests in the gate, which are making me a lot of problems | 08:10 |
| alexey_weyl | thats it | 08:11 |
| ifat_afek | alexey_weyl: thanks | 08:11 |
| ifat_afek | Anyone else wants to update? | 08:11 |
| ifat_afek | Moving on | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Open Discussion | 08:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:13 | |
| ifat_afek | Anything you would like to raise? | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | So I guess we'll end the meeting for today, as we are short of time | 08:15 |
| alexey_weyl | Bye Bye | 08:15 |
| ifat_afek | Bye everyone :-) | 08:15 |
| elisha_r | bye! see you in OPNFV... | 08:15 |
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| ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 08:16 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 08:16 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 15 08:16:19 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:16 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-06-15-08.00.html | 08:16 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-06-15-08.00.txt | 08:16 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-06-15-08.00.log.html | 08:16 |
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| mriedem_away | is there a nova-api meeting this week or is alex_xu still on vacation? | 13:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: I was just wondering, I can't remember what we said last week now | 13:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague might know | 13:02 |
| gmann_ | mriedem: yea alex_xu is on vacation and i think sdague to chair today | 13:02 |
| sdague | o/ | 13:02 |
| sdague | right | 13:02 |
| Kevin_Zheng | o/ | 13:02 |
| sdague | #startmeeting nova-api | 13:02 |
| woodster_ | o/ | 13:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 15 13:02:56 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sdague. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova-api)" | 13:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_api' | 13:03 |
| mriedem | o/ | 13:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | o/ | 13:03 |
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| gmann_ | o/ | 13:03 |
| sdague | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaAPI | 13:03 |
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| sdague | notes from last meeting - http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-06-08-13.00.html | 13:04 |
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| sdague | we have one action from last meeting about alex_xu deleting user_id items from docs for policy, but I guess we'll come back to it next week | 13:04 |
| jichen | o/ | 13:04 |
| sdague | I'll reaction that for it to be on next week's cycle | 13:04 |
| sdague | #action alex_xu to update policy docs to remove user_id references to server actions | 13:04 |
| sdague | #topic API priorities | 13:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "API priorities (Meeting topic: nova-api)" | 13:05 | |
| sdague | api-ref status - http://burndown.dague.org/ - about the same as last week | 13:05 |
| sdague | I know I ended up more in specs land around some of the deprecations and removes | 13:06 |
| sdague | it would be good to try to get some more review there though, there are still quite a number of patches outstanding | 13:06 |
| sdague | any other api-ref updates or questions from folks? | 13:06 |
| sdague | ok, policy... | 13:07 |
| sdague | the oslo.policy release with the infrastructure happened | 13:07 |
| sdague | so now this is all back on the Nova side | 13:07 |
| sdague | does anyone have links to those patches? (I've not caught up with them yet) | 13:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | I did have, I can't find them now, looking | 13:08 |
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| jichen | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329122/4/nova/policy.py | 13:09 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/policy-in-code | 13:09 |
| jichen | or https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/policy-in-code | 13:09 |
| mriedem | i win! | 13:09 |
| sdague | mriedem: \o/ | 13:09 |
| jichen | :) | 13:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | heh | 13:09 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/policy-in-code+project:openstack/nova+status:open | 13:10 |
| mriedem | more specifically | 13:10 |
| sdague | ok, cool. looks like some pep8 issues up the stack. but those would be good to review | 13:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, thats looking way more like what I was expecting since I last hit those patches | 13:10 |
| mriedem | that bottom patch is pretty damn big | 13:10 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: great | 13:10 |
| mriedem | i haven't gone through it yet so don't know how mechanical it is | 13:11 |
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| mriedem | but i expected the policy conversion to be more like the api-ref conversion a big | 13:11 |
| mriedem | extension by extension | 13:11 |
| mriedem | s/big/bit/ | 13:11 |
| sdague | yeh, maybe we could get claudio_ to split up that first patch into a couple easy single extension ones to see how it all looks | 13:12 |
| sdague | wrapping your head around the big one first is hard | 13:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | +1 on splitting it up | 13:12 |
| sdague | does someone want the todo to chat with claudio_ on that? | 13:12 |
| mriedem | i can | 13:13 |
| mriedem | i just commented on the change | 13:13 |
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| sdague | #action mriedem to follow up with claudio on splitting up policy patch for easier review | 13:14 |
| sdague | ok, great | 13:14 |
| sdague | on the API deprecate / remove front | 13:14 |
| sdague | we approved a spec discussing the extension removal - https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/newton/approved/api-no-more-extensions.html | 13:15 |
| sdague | which has also been posted to the dev and ops lists | 13:15 |
| mriedem | orly | 13:16 |
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| mriedem | didn't see that | 13:16 |
| mriedem | the ML i mean | 13:16 |
| mriedem | ah i see it | 13:16 |
| sdague | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/097285.html | 13:16 |
| mriedem | no replies | 13:16 |
| mriedem | funny | 13:16 |
| sdague | nope | 13:16 |
| sdague | at this point, I feel we're pretty covered on communication | 13:16 |
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| sdague | as we have a quite detailed document with reasoning | 13:17 |
| sdague | and have pushed it out on multiple channels | 13:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, it seems good to me | 13:17 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:fold_disk_config is most of the removal of the os-disk-config extension (working on the image extends right now to fully remove it) | 13:18 |
| sdague | for some reason gerrit didn't change the topics with the blueprint name | 13:18 |
| gmann_ | nice. | 13:19 |
| sdague | that will hopefully create a pattern for doing future ones | 13:19 |
| sdague | I think doing the "show" patch separate from "create" patch is useful | 13:19 |
| jichen | yeah, I plan to follow it and add some ... | 13:19 |
| sdague | it makes it a little simpler to review, because one is down in the views/ directory, and the other is in servers.py | 13:20 |
| gmann_ | sdague: yea, that is much easy to review and after all SHOW, UPDATE, REBUILd extension file can go away | 13:20 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329549/1/nova/api/openstack/compute/servers.py@58 is one of the things to consider | 13:21 |
| sdague | we basically will end up with a translation function between REST API and internal attributes, which is fine, but if we want it in servers.py or in some other utils.py for some of these conversion functions | 13:21 |
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| sdague | gmann_: yeh, once the create, update, rebuild extensions go away, that code becomes so much easier to understand | 13:22 |
| gmann_ | yea | 13:23 |
| sdague | ok, please review those, lets build a pattern, then we can get more of them up there | 13:23 |
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| sdague | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/api-sample-tests-with-all-extensions completed | 13:23 |
| sdague | thanks gmann_ for that | 13:24 |
| gmann_ | yea, that was on hold so long | 13:24 |
| sdague | that makes the extensions infrastructure tear down possible | 13:24 |
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| sdague | any other items on the v2 / extensions tear down? | 13:25 |
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| sdague | ok, let's go to open discussion | 13:25 |
| sdague | #topic Open Discussion | 13:26 |
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| gmann_ | sdague: one on proxy deprecation | 13:26 |
| sdague | gmann_: go for it | 13:26 |
| gmann_ | started with APi doc update | 13:26 |
| gmann_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329357/ | 13:26 |
| gmann_ | i question that can we make os-assisted-volume-snapshots also in this list? | 13:26 |
| gmann_ | actually did not find it in spec | 13:27 |
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| mriedem | gmann_: that works on servers | 13:27 |
| mriedem | so we don't deprecate that one | 13:27 |
| mriedem | it's an odd case | 13:27 |
| mriedem | only supported by libvirt i think | 13:27 |
| gmann_ | yea, and snapshot as QCOW2 file | 13:27 |
| sdague | we should probably document the limitations of the API | 13:28 |
| gmann_ | and store the snapshot status on cinder side so was just wondring, if all can be own by cinder | 13:28 |
| sdague | but, yes, it's an action on servers | 13:28 |
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| sdague | so... it doesn't really fit, right? | 13:28 |
| mriedem | not it's an action on a server resource | 13:28 |
| mriedem | so not a proxy | 13:28 |
| mriedem | s/not/no/ | 13:28 |
| sdague | right | 13:28 |
| mriedem | but yeah we should doc that it's only supported by libvirt | 13:29 |
| gmann_ | ohk, we can add that | 13:29 |
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| gmann_ | i have .inc patch for that, ll update. | 13:29 |
| mriedem | #action someone to document that os-assisted-volume-snapshots is only implemented by the libvirt compute driver | 13:29 |
| mriedem | #undo | 13:29 |
| gmann_ | mriedem: o/ | 13:29 |
| mriedem | #action gmann to document that os-assisted-volume-snapshots is only implemented by the libvirt compute driver | 13:29 |
| sdague | great | 13:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | isn't that the one that really is only called by cinder? | 13:30 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: that would be swap_volume | 13:30 |
| sdague | it is admin only | 13:31 |
| mriedem | unless there is more than one | 13:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | no, I think its when you do "local" volumes? | 13:31 |
| sdague | "os_compute_api:os-assisted-volume-snapshots:create": "rule:admin_api", | 13:31 |
| sdague | "os_compute_api:os-assisted-volume-snapshots:delete": "rule:admin_api", | 13:31 |
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| sdague | you know, I so wish we had specs back when all these random things were added to the API | 13:31 |
| sdague | so we've have any idea why people wanted them :) | 13:31 |
| mriedem | cinder does call it | 13:31 |
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| gmann_ | also this API is very odd in point of request/response | 13:31 |
| gmann_ | it take snapshot_id and id in request and return 'id' which is not used | 13:32 |
| mriedem | the remotefs volume driver in cinder calls the nova api from it's _create_snapshot_online method | 13:32 |
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| sdague | oh... this is the thing to deal with glusterfs? | 13:32 |
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| gmann_ | delete happens on file name base so not sure how to document that 'id' :) | 13:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | I thought it was just local qcows really, but I could be remembering this wrong | 13:33 |
| sdague | because snapshots don't work in the expected way there? | 13:33 |
| sdague | ok, I think we probably have a todo to figure out where and why this is called and update the docstring - https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/56dce766d8f367647ceae4b35885bcedc9d57663/nova/api/openstack/compute/assisted_volume_snapshots.py#L36 | 13:33 |
| gmann_ | yea glusterfs | 13:33 |
| sdague | all that detail probably doesn't need to be in api-ref, but it should at least be in the code | 13:33 |
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| mriedem | plus, | 13:34 |
| mriedem | like swap volume | 13:34 |
| mriedem | i'm sure this isn't integration tested today | 13:34 |
| sdague | right | 13:34 |
| * mriedem feels like starting a dev list thread | 13:34 | |
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| gmann_ | yea | 13:34 |
| sdague | mriedem: feel free | 13:34 |
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| sdague | right, there no tempest tests here for sure | 13:35 |
| gmann_ | sdague: yea there is no | 13:35 |
| sdague | I do kind of wonder if the long term evolution here is using the admin events from cinder -> nova instead of a top level API call | 13:35 |
| sdague | but that's kind of noodling about futures | 13:35 |
| sdague | ok, so coming back to concrete things. | 13:36 |
| sdague | we should review gmann_'s patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329357/ | 13:36 |
| sdague | mriedem: are you going to start a thread around this? | 13:36 |
| mriedem | sdague: yeah | 13:36 |
| mriedem | give me an action item | 13:36 |
| sdague | #action mriedem to start openstack-dev thread on os-assisted-volume-snapshots | 13:36 |
| gmann_ | sdague: and after the doc one, we need microversion to return 404 on those proxy | 13:36 |
| gmann_ | sdague: you are planning to bump that or shall i start? | 13:37 |
| sdague | gmann_: right, are you up for doing that microversion change? | 13:37 |
| gmann_ | sure | 13:37 |
| sdague | gmann_: I've got a pretty full plate, if you could run with it that would be great | 13:37 |
| sdague | #action gmann_ to write microversion change for 404 on API proxies | 13:37 |
| gmann_ | yup | 13:37 |
| sdague | great | 13:37 |
| gmann_ | thats all on this from my side | 13:38 |
| sdague | great | 13:38 |
| sdague | anyone else with topics for open discussion? | 13:38 |
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| sdague | going once... | 13:40 |
| sdague | oh... wait, there is something else we should bring up | 13:40 |
| sdague | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/097349.html | 13:41 |
| sdague | [openstack-dev] [tempest][nova][defcore] Add option to disable somestrict response checking for interop testing | 13:41 |
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| sdague | this is specifically about defcore testing of the Nova API and changes to Tempest to provide the possibility of relaxing strict response checking for some period of time | 13:42 |
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| sdague | as it is specifically about the Nova API, it is probably worth having Nova folks voice their view point there | 13:42 |
| gmann_ | some period of time? | 13:42 |
| gmann_ | or they want for always | 13:42 |
| sdague | until the 2017.01 defcore guidelines | 13:42 |
| gmann_ | ahh | 13:42 |
| sdague | hogepodge's proposal is pretty detailed | 13:43 |
| sdague | I think I'm the only Nova team member that's weighed in so far | 13:43 |
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| sdague | so that would be good to consider, and voice an opinion if you have one | 13:44 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: I think your pov would be especially useful, though I realize you are on multiple sides of this fence | 13:45 |
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| sdague | ok, anything else from folks? | 13:45 |
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| johnthetubaguy | hi, sorry, got cut off there | 13:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am still thinking about it | 13:46 |
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| johnthetubaguy | the problem for me is the experimental tag has been taken off the new spec for the version header | 13:46 |
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| johnthetubaguy | it would be nice if we could have experiemental suff people opt into, while we are getting that upstream and proving it out | 13:46 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: do you have specific instances of that? | 13:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | otherwise, the transition period makes a lot of sense to me, to take the sting out of this (largely accidental) defcore test change | 13:47 |
| sdague | I feel like a lot of the time this got discussed in the abstract | 13:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | so, there is a spec we didn't get merged around scoped server groups, it would be nice to test out some of that with customers, using experimental API you explicitly opt into | 13:48 |
| sdague | and it's easier for me to understand why a vendor would add content to 'server: {}' before taking it upstream if I see a concrete example | 13:48 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: ok, though in those cases it's extra resources right, not changed ones? | 13:48 |
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| johnthetubaguy | hmm, changed ones | 13:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | but at least you opt in via a header | 13:49 |
| sdague | and then you write a new client library to support them? | 13:49 |
| sdague | I guess it feels to me that A/B testing really doesn't work with software APIs. You have to just commit to release, and update it over time | 13:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | possibly, yeah | 13:50 |
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| gmann_ | so then it can go out with header right? insted of in response dict | 13:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | well, this is "unsupported" API we don't tell folks about, unless they find them, that will get ripped out once completed | 13:50 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: so, why not make it on a different endpoint? | 13:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | well for long lived stuff totally | 13:52 |
| sdague | I just don't believe once anything is in it's ever getting deleted | 13:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | this is more a one off thing, to try a slighly change out | 13:52 |
| sdague | that's been my issue with "experimental" | 13:52 |
| sdague | you'll have a customer that now depends on it | 13:52 |
| sdague | you aren't going to remove it | 13:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, it might only be available like that on a separate end point | 13:53 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so we would tell then to transition, and be upfront about it going away at the beginning, its quite high touch | 13:53 |
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| johnthetubaguy | but yeah, I get your point, the transition is bumpy, for sure | 13:53 |
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| johnthetubaguy | at least its clear its rackspace specific, if you have to opt into it | 13:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | I need to think about this some more, as you can tell! | 13:54 |
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| sdague | ok, anything else from folks? | 13:55 |
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| sdague | alright, lets call it a wrap | 13:56 |
| sdague | #endmeeting | 13:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 15 13:56:13 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:56 |
| sdague | thanks folks | 13:56 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-06-15-13.02.html | 13:56 |
| gmann_ | Thansk all | 13:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-06-15-13.02.txt | 13:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-06-15-13.02.log.html | 13:56 |
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| acabot | #startmeeting watcher | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 15 14:00:31 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is acabot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'watcher' | 14:00 |
| acabot | hi | 14:00 |
| gzhai-mobl | Hi | 14:00 |
| hvprash | Hi | 14:00 |
| acabot | agenda for today #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#06.2F15.2F2016 | 14:00 |
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| tkaczynski | hi | 14:01 |
| jed56 | hi | 14:01 |
| gzhai-mobl | I am on phone,so not stable | 14:01 |
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| acabot | gzhai-mobl : ok ;-) | 14:01 |
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| jinquan2 | hi | 14:01 |
| acabot | #topic Announcements | 14:01 |
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| sballe_ | hi | 14:01 |
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| acabot | #info Call for presentations opens for Barcelona summit, I set-up an etherpad for propositions | 14:02 |
| acabot | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Watcher_abstracts_barcelona2016 | 14:02 |
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| acabot | I simply copy paste most of the descriptions we had for Austin | 14:03 |
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| acabot | so we need to update them, I'd like to have at least 3 presentations in Barcelona | 14:03 |
| acabot | a Hands-on / a fishbowl session / a concrete use case | 14:04 |
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| sballe_ | what's fishbowl | 14:04 |
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| jed56 | sballe_: +1 | 14:04 |
| acabot | regarding the fishbowl session, we will be able to add it to the design summit agenda as we are now big-tent | 14:05 |
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| tkaczynski | cool, but what's that? not japanese food I guess ;) | 14:05 |
| sballe_ | ok but I am not sure what a fishbowl session is.. just an update of the status of the project? | 14:05 |
| acabot | each official project has a fishbowl session during the summit (a large room to get a maximum of contributors and discussions) | 14:05 |
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| sballe_ | ok | 14:06 |
| acabot | its a way to give updates on the project and define priorities with a large audience | 14:06 |
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| sballe_ | I am interested in contributing in the use case session. I added my name to that talk | 14:06 |
| hvprash | acabot : was sharing this idea with sballe_ last week. will see if we can put together something on walmart use case | 14:06 |
| sballe_ | hvprash: +1 | 14:07 |
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| acabot | hvprash : it would be great ! | 14:07 |
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| hvprash | thx | 14:07 |
| sballe_ | tpeoples: are you coming to the meetup? you haven't registered yet | 14:07 |
| acabot | #action hvprash complete https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Watcher_abstracts_barcelona2016 with a Walmart use case | 14:07 |
| sballe_ | tpeoples: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/watcher-newton-mid-cycle-developer-meetup-tickets-25267323244 | 14:08 |
| acabot | #info Watcher CLI documentation will be generated on docs.openstack.org next time the release team will tag it | 14:08 |
| acabot | FYI, we cannot tag any more Watcher repos | 14:08 |
| acabot | only the OpenStack release team can do it | 14:09 |
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| acabot | so we have to wait for n2 release to generate the CLI doc | 14:09 |
| tkaczynski | has the review / contribution process changed? | 14:09 |
| acabot | tkaczynski : not at all | 14:09 |
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| acabot | tkaczynski : we just submit a release to the release team and they tag the repo | 14:10 |
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| acabot | #info Release notes management has been set-up for Watcher | 14:10 |
| tkaczynski | acabot: thanks | 14:10 |
| acabot | #link http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/watcher/ | 14:10 |
| acabot | nothing in there for now | 14:10 |
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| acabot | if you are interested in Reno, you can look at http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/release-management.html#when-to-add-release-notes | 14:10 |
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| acabot | #info Translation server is up and running, translations are stored on git only above 70% of coverage per language | 14:11 |
| acabot | #link https://translate.openstack.org/iteration/view/watcher/master | 14:11 |
| acabot | as you can see, we need contributors on translations ;-) | 14:11 |
| acabot | we will do it for French ! | 14:12 |
| acabot | anyone wants to start working on translations ? | 14:12 |
| sballe_ | lol | 14:12 |
| gzhai-mobl | How big is the doc | 14:12 |
| sballe_ | this is cool! | 14:12 |
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| acabot | its very easy to do as it is now on Zanata server | 14:13 |
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| dtardivel | acabot: is there a dedicated team for translation in OpenStack ? | 14:13 |
| acabot | dtardivel : not yet, I will ask people from the translation team to look at watcher | 14:13 |
| jinquan2 | which language translate to？ | 14:13 |
| acabot | jinquan2 : chinese ? | 14:14 |
| acabot | if we can have french and chinese abose 70% it would be nice :-) | 14:14 |
| jinquan2 | let me think， you know my english：（ | 14:14 |
| acabot | gzhai-mobl : we dont translate the doc here, its i18n in code | 14:14 |
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| tkaczynski | acabot: I guess the question was what's the openstack language list | 14:15 |
| jed56 | I think there is 50 languages | 14:15 |
| acabot | tkaczynski : have a look at https://translate.openstack.org/iteration/view/nova/master | 14:16 |
| acabot | for Nova we have 12 languages above 50% | 14:16 |
| tkaczynski | Polish 0.42% ;) | 14:16 |
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| dtardivel | FYI, this is a team for French translation: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/team/fr | 14:17 |
| acabot | tkaczynski : you should probably work on it ;-) | 14:17 |
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| acabot | dtardivel : page in french ;-) | 14:17 |
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| acabot | #info a request has been sent to OSIC for a test cluster in september | 14:18 |
| acabot | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/watcher-test-environment-specifications is you want to look at the form request | 14:18 |
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| acabot | any other announcement ? | 14:18 |
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| acabot | I think Watcher has been packaged for Debian and I dont have a status | 14:19 |
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| acabot | so I moved it to open discussions | 14:19 |
| acabot | #topic Review Action Items | 14:19 |
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| acabot | watcher specs | 14:19 |
| acabot | Audit parameters should be persistent in Db will be merged soon | 14:20 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317130/ | 14:20 |
| hvprash | thx for everyones review :) | 14:20 |
| hvprash | will start working on it | 14:20 |
| acabot | #action jed56 vincentfrancoise confirm +1 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317130/ | 14:20 |
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| jed56 | this is in my pipeline :) | 14:20 |
| acabot | Cluster model objects wrapper needs reviews after work items additions | 14:20 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287019/ | 14:21 |
| acabot | vincentfrancoise added work items on top of tpeoples work | 14:21 |
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| acabot | #action jwcroppe sballe_ acabot review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287019/ | 14:21 |
| sballe_ | on it | 14:22 |
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| acabot | Watcher | 14:22 |
| acabot | Efficacy indicator has been merged | 14:22 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/watcher+branch:master+topic:bp/efficacy-indicator | 14:22 |
| acabot | dtardivel merged it this morning and it moved all PS in merge conflict...sorry for that | 14:22 |
| acabot | Enable strategy parameters needs a new PS | 14:23 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297556/ | 14:23 |
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| acabot | gzhai-mobl : sorry but you will have to rebase it | 14:23 |
| acabot | #action gzhai-mobl add a new PS to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297556/ | 14:24 |
| acabot | Implement immutable audit_template CRUD needs an update | 14:24 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324652/ | 14:24 |
| acabot | hvprash : any update on this ? | 14:24 |
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| hvprash | i guess we could abandon it | 14:25 |
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| acabot | hvprash : ok please do in this case | 14:25 |
| hvprash | it was a logic which mike was working for the immutable audit template | 14:25 |
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| acabot | #action hvprash abandon the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324652/ | 14:26 |
| hvprash | the spec has changed and we will re-write | 14:26 |
| acabot | hvprash : thx | 14:26 |
| sballe_ | history | 14:26 |
| sballe_ | wrong window ;) | 14:26 |
| acabot | Add support continuously-optimization needs reviews | 14:26 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327095/ | 14:26 |
| acabot | jed56 already did | 14:26 |
| jed56 | FYI, I going to amend the specification | 14:27 |
| sballe_ | I will review | 14:27 |
| acabot | sorry wrong link | 14:27 |
| jed56 | so you should wait to review the new spec | 14:27 |
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| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321411/ | 14:27 |
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| jed56 | I will push a new spec tomorrow | 14:28 |
| acabot | #action jed56 amend the specification for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/continuously-optimization | 14:28 |
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| acabot | #action alexchadin wait for specifications update before adding a PS to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321411/ | 14:29 |
| acabot | Uniform Airflow migration strategy implementation needs reviews | 14:29 |
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| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324169/ | 14:29 |
| acabot | this one is old, does anyone wants to review it ? | 14:30 |
| jed56 | sorry,I didn't take time | 14:30 |
| jed56 | to review it | 14:30 |
| acabot | #action jed56 review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324169/ | 14:30 |
| jed56 | you can add me again | 14:30 |
| hvprash | +1 | 14:30 |
| acabot | #action hvprash review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324169/ | 14:31 |
| acabot | moving to watcher CLI | 14:31 |
| acabot | Enable strategy parameter needs reviews | 14:31 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297557/ | 14:31 |
| acabot | #action gzhai-mobl add a PS to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297557/ | 14:32 |
| acabot | Watcher dashboard | 14:32 |
| acabot | Add support continuously-optimization needs reviews | 14:32 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327095/ | 14:32 |
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| acabot | jed56 : I suppose we should also wait for specs update ? | 14:33 |
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| dtardivel | jed56: +1 | 14:33 |
| acabot | Watcher puppet | 14:34 |
| jed56 | I don't think the logic for client part will be impacted | 14:34 |
| acabot | jed56 : ok | 14:34 |
| jed56 | *that | 14:34 |
| acabot | who wants to review it ? | 14:34 |
| dtardivel | I can | 14:34 |
| acabot | #action dtardivel review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327095/ | 14:34 |
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| acabot | the initial commit of watcher-puppet has been merged | 14:35 |
| acabot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326593/ | 14:35 |
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| acabot | you can now use puppet to deploy watcher ! | 14:35 |
| acabot | thx to danpawlik | 14:35 |
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| sballe_ | nice! | 14:36 |
| acabot | #topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion | 14:36 |
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| dtardivel | acabot: or packstack :) | 14:36 |
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| acabot | #info our current milestone is Newton-2 | 14:36 |
| acabot | #link https://launchpad.net/watcher/+milestone/newton-2 | 14:36 |
| acabot | hanrong took the BP Define policies for accessing Watcher components, jinquan2 any update on this ? | 14:37 |
| acabot | hanrong is a new contributor from ZTE by the way | 14:37 |
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| jed56 | Welcome to hanrong :) | 14:38 |
| jinquan2 | acabot：she are depolying the watcher envirment | 14:38 |
| sballe_ | +1 | 14:38 |
| acabot | jinquan2 : ok did she use devstack ? | 14:38 |
| hvprash | welcome hanrong | 14:38 |
| jinquan2 | yes，use devstack | 14:38 |
| jinquan2 | she is good at code | 14:39 |
| acabot | jinquan2 : ok tell her to not hesitate to submit bug if the doc is unclear or not up-to-date | 14:39 |
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| jinquan2 | ok i will tell she tomorrow | 14:39 |
| acabot | Provide a way to filter available hosts that can be targeted for a migration has been deferred due to specs improvements needed | 14:39 |
| jinquan2 | her | 14:39 |
| acabot | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/select-destinations-filter | 14:40 |
| acabot | so jinquan2 was working on this bp | 14:40 |
| acabot | and as we are now in the big-tent, the solution we designed during the last mid-cycle regarding select-destination was not good | 14:41 |
| sballe_ | ls -al | 14:41 |
| acabot | so jed56 decided to work on a new spec to define how watcher should interact with Nova in a proper way | 14:41 |
| sballe_ | +1000 | 14:41 |
| acabot | and this is something we should have ready before the mid-cycle to engage discussion with the Nova team | 14:42 |
| sballe_ | jed56: I am happy to help on that spec if you need help | 14:42 |
| jed56 | sballe => I pushed a first version https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329873/ | 14:42 |
| acabot | jed56 will submit a first draft | 14:42 |
| sballe_ | cool1 | 14:42 |
| acabot | already done ;-) | 14:42 |
| acabot | so on this, I think we have to make it clear on our side | 14:43 |
| acabot | and then ask nova contributors to review it | 14:43 |
| jed56 | acabot: +1 | 14:43 |
| sballe_ | acabot: +1 | 14:43 |
| acabot | I would like to have reviewers on this spec as it is very important for Watcher | 14:43 |
| vmahe | +1 | 14:44 |
| hvprash | +1 | 14:44 |
| jinquan2 | ＋1 | 14:44 |
| acabot | #action sballe_ jwcroppe acabot give a first round of feedback on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329873/ | 14:44 |
| acabot | #action vmahe hvprash jinquan2 review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329873/ | 14:44 |
| acabot | #topic Open Discussion | 14:45 |
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| acabot | we are one month away from the mid-cycle, I will start working on the agenda | 14:45 |
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| sballe_ | we have 7 people registered | 14:46 |
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| sballe_ | tpeoples: hasn't registered yet | 14:46 |
| acabot | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-watcher-midcycle | 14:46 |
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| sballe_ | and tkaczynski will attend via a VideoConf room | 14:46 |
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| sballe_ | so 8 people with tkaczynski | 14:46 |
| acabot | please complete the list of subjects you would like to discuss during the mid-cycke | 14:46 |
| gzhai-mobl2 | I am tbd | 14:47 |
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| sballe_ | We are waiting for gzhai-mobl2 travel approval :) | 14:47 |
| acabot | #action sballe_ jed56 jwcroppe tkaczynski edleafe gzhai-mobl2 complete the list of subjects to discuss https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-watcher-midcycle | 14:47 |
| acabot | gzhai-mobl2 : it would be great to have you this time ç | 14:48 |
| gzhai-mobl2 | Maybe I can also video conference :) | 14:48 |
| sballe_ | yes but let's hope you can come in person | 14:48 |
| tkaczynski | btw: I made some good progress on scoring module implementation. I started with watcher cli, api and db layer. code is ready, pep8 is clean. I'm ready to send it for review, but I'm also looking at tests, so I don't know how much that will take | 14:49 |
| acabot | tkaczynski : great, sorry I forgot to ask | 14:49 |
| acabot | tkaczynski : please submit it asap for review | 14:50 |
| acabot | tkaczynski : we will be able to add tests later | 14:50 |
| jed56 | tkaczynski: awesome :) | 14:50 |
| tkaczynski | acabot: great, so I will prepare review and send it probably tomorrow | 14:51 |
| acabot | #action tkaczynski submit code to review for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/scoring-module | 14:51 |
| acabot | we will try to have it ready for newton-2 ! | 14:52 |
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| jed56 | lol | 14:52 |
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| tkaczynski | but this is only 1st part! there's a lot more work to do | 14:52 |
| * jed56 hello world | 14:52 | |
| * acabot jed56 is discovering IRC commands | 14:53 | |
| * sballe_ lol | 14:53 | |
| acabot | any update regarding Debian/RDO packages ? | 14:53 |
| * jed56 :) | 14:53 | |
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| acabot | I think we need to find a packager for RDO as there is no dedicated team | 14:54 |
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| acabot | any other discussion to open ? | 14:54 |
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| tkaczynski | jed56: what command did you use? I want it too! :) | 14:55 |
| jed56 | => /me message | 14:55 |
| hvprash | acabot, we have some dedicated team working on openstack ansible. I think will be good to have a watcher ansible playbooks | 14:55 |
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| acabot | hvprash : for sure | 14:55 |
| sballe_ | +100 | 14:55 |
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| * tkaczynski that is pretty cool :) | 14:55 | |
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| acabot | I looks to be the same as puppet, there is a big-tent project related to ansible | 14:56 |
| hvprash | in fact mike is a dedicated resource in that project | 14:56 |
| hvprash | will talk to our internal team | 14:56 |
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| hvprash | in fact our internal openstack deployments is using osad | 14:57 |
| acabot | #action hvprash look if walmart can provide ansible playbooks for Watcher | 14:57 |
| hvprash | so at some point we need watcher to be in too :) | 14:57 |
| acabot | osad? | 14:57 |
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| hvprash | OSAD = openstack ansible deployment | 14:57 |
| hvprash | :D | 14:57 |
| acabot | ok | 14:57 |
| dtardivel | acabot: about RDO packages, we can talk to gpocentek. It released cloudkitty RDO packages | 14:57 |
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| acabot | dtardivel : ok | 14:58 |
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| acabot | time to close the meeting | 14:58 |
| acabot | thank you | 14:58 |
| sballe_ | have a great day! thx | 14:59 |
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| acabot | bye | 14:59 |
| tkaczynski | bye | 14:59 |
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| gzhai-mobl2 | Bye | 14:59 |
| jinquan2 | byebye | 14:59 |
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| * jed56 is going to the coffee break | 14:59 | |
| acabot | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 15 14:59:19 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-06-15-14.00.html | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-06-15-14.00.txt | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-06-15-14.00.log.html | 14:59 |
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| serverascode | #startmeeting operators_telco_nfv | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 15 15:00:27 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is serverascode. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'operators_telco_nfv' | 15:00 |
| serverascode | #topic rollcall | 15:00 |
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| serverascode | hi, is anyone here for the ops telecom/nfv meeting? | 15:01 |
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| serverascode | :) | 15:01 |
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| shintaro | hi | 15:01 |
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| serverascode | hi shintaro | 15:02 |
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| serverascode | lets give a couple minutes to see if anyone else shows up | 15:02 |
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| shintaro | ok | 15:03 |
| serverascode | if anyone is here for the ops telecom nfv meeting let me know :) | 15:03 |
| serverascode | shintaro where are you located? | 15:04 |
| PerfectChaos | I am. | 15:05 |
| shintaro | Japan. so its midnight. the agenda etherpad says there are conference call number. is this the right channel? | 15:05 |
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| serverascode | yup it is the right channel, there is also a conference number but I can't get on it | 15:06 |
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| serverascode | we are still figuring things out in terms of how this meeting will operate | 15:06 |
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| shintaro | ok. since it midnight and I'm at home, IRC is better :) | 15:06 |
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| serverascode | there was one person so far that asked for a conference number so far, but we'll see what happens | 15:07 |
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| serverascode | #topic APAC meeting time | 15:07 |
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| serverascode | while you are here do you have any thoughts on an APAC meeting time? | 15:08 |
| shintaro | yes, this is tough time for APAC. one hour earlier would be better | 15:08 |
| serverascode | are there people who would attend another meeting at another time? | 15:08 |
| serverascode | like one meant specifically for APAC? | 15:08 |
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| serverascode | ie. if we had a even meeting and an odd week meeting where the odd week was an APAC time? | 15:09 |
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| shintaro | oh, ok. Im not sure if we have enough people in APAC to have different meetings | 15:09 |
| serverascode | ok | 15:09 |
| serverascode | well, it's been 10 min and I don't think we are going to get anyone else. It's going to take some time to gather people up for this. :) | 15:10 |
| shintaro | and need someone to attend both to link them together | 15:10 |
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| serverascode | yeah I would attend both if there was two | 15:10 |
| PerfectChaos | People are still joining the channel... | 15:10 |
| serverascode | ah, ok :) | 15:10 |
| PerfectChaos | and I'm somewhat assuming that people joining when there's a meeting that's just started are joining for that meeting. | 15:10 |
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| PerfectChaos | Though I guess by now anyone else is pretty much late, so probably not worth waiting around. | 15:12 |
| serverascode | ok if anyone is here for the ops telecom/nfv meeting other than shinto and PerfectChaos do let me know :) | 15:12 |
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| serverascode | yeah I don't think anyone else is on | 15:14 |
| serverascode | #topic open discussion | 15:14 |
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| serverascode | shinto or PerfectChaos do you have anything you'd like to add/ask/suggest etc? | 15:14 |
| shintaro | so will there be a BoF at OPNFV Summit? | 15:14 |
| serverascode | yeah there will be | 15:14 |
| serverascode | I'm not completely sure of the time yet | 15:15 |
| serverascode | there will be a few openstack related sessions, but one will be an operators birds of a feather | 15:15 |
| shintaro | great. so I will check the session schedule. | 15:15 |
| serverascode | I think it's on tuesday, but I will send out an email to the openstack operators list when I know for sure as well | 15:15 |
| shintaro | serverascode: thanks | 15:16 |
| serverascode | #info There will be an operators bof at the opnfv summit, email to follow | 15:16 |
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| serverascode | #action serverascode to email to operators list when we know when the opnfv ops bof will be | 15:16 |
| serverascode | ok, well I'm sorry we didn't get much of a turnout, there is some work to do to make sure people know about this meeting | 15:17 |
| serverascode | it'll take some time to get this all ironed out | 15:17 |
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| serverascode | unless there are any objections I will end the meeting and we will hopefully see you at the next meeting or even the opnfv summit :) | 15:17 |
| PerfectChaos | Yup. Though the e-mails seemed pretty clear to me... | 15:17 |
| serverascode | yeah | 15:18 |
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| PerfectChaos | I have a couple of thoughts before closing up... | 15:18 |
| shintaro | yes. just I was confused on the conference call nuber on the etherpad | 15:18 |
| serverascode | right, sorry about the confusion | 15:18 |
| PerfectChaos | The in-person meetings at the last couple of summits that I've been to (Telecoms workgroup, then NFV/Telecoms Ops) have never felt hugely coherent or focused | 15:19 |
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| serverascode | I agree +1 | 15:20 |
| PerfectChaos | So I expect some people might not necessarily expect much to come out of meetings like these without much focus | 15:20 |
| PerfectChaos | I think if we had a clearer view of what we're actually trying to achieve here people might be more inclined to turn up. | 15:20 |
| serverascode | For sure, the only problem is that we have to figure out that purpose somehow | 15:21 |
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| serverascode | my initial thoughts were to follow the large deployments team lead and try to find one or two big things to work on over time | 15:21 |
| serverascode | but that was just my thinking | 15:21 |
| serverascode | if you have any thoughts on what we should lbe working on I'd love to hear them | 15:22 |
| PerfectChaos | I don't mean necessarily in terms of "make component X do Y", but higher-level goals, like "identify N major NFV shortfalls before the next release and try to make sure someone is looking at them" | 15:22 |
| shintaro | yes. I agree. especially relation between OPNFV need to be cleared. OPNFV has more ops and requirements discussed. | 15:22 |
| PerfectChaos | And then meetings can be more focused along the lines of "in this meeting we're looking to hear what problems people have, Ops people come and tell us" or whatever. | 15:23 |
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| serverascode | ok, so what do you think we should do before the next meeting? | 15:24 |
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| serverascode | do you want to jot down some ideas in the etherpad? | 15:24 |
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| serverascode | so perhaps have the entire topic of the next meeting be try to determine what we are actually doing? | 15:26 |
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| PerfectChaos | I mean, intuitively I'd think that the Telecom/NFV ops group should be about trying to make life easier for Telecom/NFV ops. | 15:29 |
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| PerfectChaos | Identify the problems they face, or the features they need, and take actions to ensure that those things are resolved. | 15:29 |
| shintaro | Just an idea, but how about looking at some of NFV related user stories in the Product WG repo (if there are any, I'm not sure) and help make them merged and/or do the gap analysis? | 15:29 |
| serverascode | yeah that could be interesting | 15:30 |
| PerfectChaos | But the group in its various guises so far hasn't had much visible output, and I think people are inclined to just work on those problems/features outside of the context of the group if they need them because it's not obvious how the group can help that. | 15:30 |
| serverascode | there was a telecom working group that wrote several nfv/telecom related user stories, that's essentially what they did | 15:30 |
| serverascode | before they disbanded and simply became part of the product working group | 15:31 |
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| serverascode | but it wasn't an "operators" working group to be clear | 15:31 |
| PerfectChaos | I suppose having a well-defined mission statement would be a good start. | 15:31 |
| serverascode | for sure...is that something you'd like to take a crack at? | 15:32 |
| serverascode | at least an initial version we could look at | 15:32 |
| PerfectChaos | Sure, I'll give it a shot. | 15:32 |
| serverascode | cool | 15:33 |
| serverascode | #action PerfectChaos to try writing a first version of a group mission statement or purpose | 15:33 |
| serverascode | other thoughts? | 15:33 |
| PerfectChaos | That style of writing isn't exactly my strongest point, but I can at least come up with something as a starting point. | 15:33 |
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| serverascode | no worries, I think we just need something to work with, critique, agree with, etc | 15:34 |
| shintaro | +1 | 15:34 |
| serverascode | any other open discussion ideas/thoughts? | 15:35 |
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| PerfectChaos | None from me for the time being. | 15:36 |
| shintaro | same here | 15:36 |
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| serverascode | all right, well thanks for your help, sorry not much of an attendance this week, about the same as the last meeting :) but we'll figure it out | 15:36 |
| serverascode | #endmeeting | 15:36 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 15 15:36:58 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_telco_nfv/2016/operators_telco_nfv.2016-06-15-15.00.html | 15:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_telco_nfv/2016/operators_telco_nfv.2016-06-15-15.00.txt | 15:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_telco_nfv/2016/operators_telco_nfv.2016-06-15-15.00.log.html | 15:37 |
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| shintaro | thanks | 15:37 |
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| sdake | #startmeeting kolla | 16:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 15 16:05:39 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sdake. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:05 |
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| sdake | #topic rollcall | 16:05 |
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| rhallisey | hello | 16:05 |
| sdake | o/ | 16:05 |
| pbourke | o/ | 16:05 |
| Jeffrey4l | \o/ | 16:06 |
| nihilifer | o/ | 16:06 |
| mandre | Hi | 16:06 |
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| sdake | #topic announcements | 16:07 |
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| sdake | 1. kolla midcycle is in Durham NC 12 and 13th o fJuly | 16:07 |
| sdake | any other announcements from folks? | 16:07 |
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| Jeffrey4l | i have one | 16:07 |
| Jeffrey4l | from Ubuntu | 16:08 |
| Jeffrey4l | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/097173.html | 16:08 |
| Jeffrey4l | they have master packaging now. So we can enable the ubuntu-binary gate on the master branch. | 16:08 |
| sdake | cool | 16:08 |
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| Jeffrey4l | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/097173.html | 16:08 |
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| Jeffrey4l | The Ubuntu OpenStack team is pleased to announce the general availability | 16:08 |
| Jeffrey4l | of the OpenStack Newton B1 milestone in Ubuntu 16.10 and for Ubuntu 16.04 | 16:08 |
| Jeffrey4l | LTS via the Ubuntu Cloud Archive. | 16:08 |
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| sdake | its not exactly master packaging | 16:08 |
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| sdake | its milestone packaging of newton | 16:09 |
| Jeffrey4l | But almost. | 16:09 |
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| Jeffrey4l | could we use it for master deploy? | 16:09 |
| Jeffrey4l | for kolla master deploy test? | 16:09 |
| sdake | wfm | 16:09 |
| Jeffrey4l | OK. | 16:09 |
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| Jeffrey4l | then i have no other announcements. | 16:10 |
| sdake | #topic bug triage | 16:10 |
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| sdake | https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla | 16:10 |
| sdake | if you see there, there are 47 new bugs | 16:10 |
| sdake | i need help triaging - i can't do it alone | 16:10 |
| sdake | I know aa few folks are helping, but need help rom the broader core revewe rteam | 16:11 |
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| Jeffrey4l | OK. | 16:11 |
| sdake | we also have a mountain o 182 open bugs | 16:11 |
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| wirehead_ | o/ | 16:11 |
| sdake | up untiln ewton we did really well keep our bug backlog sorted out | 16:11 |
| sdake | i'm not sur what has changed | 16:12 |
| sdake | but if folks could spend 10-15 minutes a week doing bug triage that wold probably get the new bugs atleasets into an open bug state | 16:12 |
| sdake | if folks could fix 1 bug a week, that would have us at zero bug count towards end of cycle | 16:12 |
| sdake | assuming no more new bugs :) | 16:12 |
| sdake | when triaging its very straightorward | 16:13 |
| sdake | set status to triaged, importance to what yu think the importance is, leave asigned to to nobody and set milestone to newton n2 | 16:13 |
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| sdake | if someone comes along and also has this bug it can be set to confirmed | 16:14 |
| sdake | any questions? | 16:14 |
| pbourke | sounds easy | 16:14 |
| sdake | it is easy | 16:14 |
| sdake | jusst time consuming | 16:14 |
| sdake | if 1 person is doing it | 16:14 |
| sdake | the only othe real trick is targeting towards a release if its a zstream bug | 16:15 |
| sdake | use the target to series button to do that | 16:15 |
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| pbourke | can you remind me what qualifies a bug for backporting | 16:16 |
| sdake | target towarsd liberty nd towards mitaka if its critical or high bug | 16:16 |
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| pbourke | oh there we go :) | 16:16 |
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| sdake | #topic blueprint review or newton 2 | 16:18 |
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| sdake | https://launchpad.net/kolla/+milestone/newton-2 | 16:18 |
| sdake | we have approximately 4 weeks | 16:18 |
| sdake | 7/15 is the deadline | 16:19 |
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| sdake | lots of good progress - like to see that | 16:19 |
| sdake | lots of stated - lets try to get those into good progress soon | 16:19 |
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| Mech422 | sdake: so kolla/newton will deploy on k8s ? thats awesome :-) | 16:20 |
| sdake | Mech422 unliekly | 16:20 |
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| sdake | #topic kolla-kubernetes | 16:21 |
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| sdake | rhallisey have any updates? | 16:21 |
| coolsvap | o/ | 16:21 |
| rhallisey | yes | 16:21 |
| rhallisey | there are a bunch of patches that kolla-kubernetes needs in kolla. They are listed here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/GTAZV0AXm8 | 16:22 |
| rhallisey | I know everyone is busy. Kolla-kubernetes is new so there code is generated fast | 16:22 |
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| rhallisey | just want to make everyone aware that there will be a bunch of patches heading up that way and the kolla-kubernetes people are just asking for reviews :) | 16:23 |
| sdake | rhallisey i think reviews are going slow all around kolla | 16:23 |
| wirehead_ | I've been trying to review some non-Kubernetes Kolla bugs where possible, so it's not just us begging all y'all. | 16:23 |
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| rhallisey | ya I agree. | 16:24 |
| vhosakot | o/ | 16:24 |
| vhosakot | did the meeting start early ? sorry I did not know | 16:24 |
| sdake | vhosakot it was chnged to 16;00 utc | 16:24 |
| rhallisey | sdake, I'm just pointing it out since kolla-kube is new, pretty much all these patches are blockers for further dev | 16:24 |
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| rhallisey | carrying like 7 patches in kolla is rough | 16:24 |
| vhosakot | ok cool.. will note the new time | 16:24 |
| coolsvap | yes my watch still shows 6 mins to meeting | 16:25 |
| sdake | can core reviewers hve a look at those patches please | 16:25 |
| wirehead_ | some of them only need one +2. | 16:25 |
| rhallisey | also wanted to mention the spec again https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304182/ | 16:25 |
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| vhosakot | yes, I will look at those reviews today | 16:25 |
| rhallisey | I updated it and it would be great to make a push to review it | 16:25 |
| rhallisey | s/review/merge/ | 16:25 |
| coolsvap | rhallisey, do we need another copy in kolla-kubernetes? | 16:25 |
| coolsvap | of the spec | 16:26 |
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| rhallisey | coolsvap, that was an accident, no | 16:26 |
| sdake | folks i just vomited pretty much everywhere | 16:26 |
| sdake | so I gott go | 16:26 |
| coolsvap | rhallisey, alright no problem then | 16:26 |
| sdake | if ou want to continue the meeting rhallisey can chair - let me end it now, and rhallisey can start it up | 16:26 |
| sdake | #endmeeting | 16:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:26 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 15 16:26:49 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:26 |
| rhallisey | sdake, can you end meetint can ill take over | 16:26 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-06-15-16.05.html | 16:26 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-06-15-16.05.txt | 16:26 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-06-15-16.05.log.html | 16:26 |
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| rhallisey | #startmeeting kolla | 16:27 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 15 16:27:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhallisey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:27 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:27 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 16:27 |
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| rhallisey | #topic Kolla-kubernetes | 16:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Kolla-kubernetes (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:27 | |
| rhallisey | did anyone have any further comments | 16:27 |
| rhallisey | I appreciate any review guys | 16:27 |
| wirehead_ | Yeah, I think I'm obsessed with getting us to the point where we're not carrying 7 patches on the Kolla side. | 16:28 |
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| coolsvap | rhallisey, i will also do | 16:28 |
| rhallisey | wirehead_, it's because kolla-kube is new, we're sending out patches like crazy | 16:28 |
| rhallisey | it won't happen forever | 16:28 |
| wirehead_ | :) | 16:28 |
| rhallisey | :) | 16:28 |
| rhallisey | thanks coolsvap | 16:28 |
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| Mech422 | is there anything non-committers can do to help ? | 16:29 |
| rhallisey | Mech422, you can try it out :) | 16:29 |
| rhallisey | so looking at the topics.. | 16:29 |
| rhallisey | # topic Refactoring of build.py | 16:29 |
| wirehead_ | I think there was some convo about the Kolla gates. | 16:29 |
| Mech422 | rhallisey: yeah - I'll prolly fire up a test run this weekend :-) | 16:29 |
| wirehead_ | On the openstack-dev mailing list this morning. | 16:30 |
| rhallisey | #topic Refactoring of build.py | 16:30 |
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| rhallisey | let's keep moving we're 30min in | 16:30 |
| rhallisey | no inc0? | 16:30 |
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| Mech422 | rhallisey: he said he couldn't attend today | 16:30 |
| rhallisey | ok | 16:31 |
| rhallisey | I'll give a quick summary | 16:31 |
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| rhallisey | inc0 has a bunch of patches up that also need review (sorry for nagging). The patches will making everything much more configurable | 16:31 |
| rhallisey | they should be easy reviews | 16:32 |
| rhallisey | #topic do we need tqdm? | 16:32 |
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| rhallisey | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/325529/ | 16:32 |
| coolsvap | rhallisey, i added it | 16:32 |
| rhallisey | coolsvap, go for it | 16:32 |
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| coolsvap | i was in the requirements meeting earlier today | 16:32 |
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| coolsvap | where they wanted to know if we need tqdm | 16:33 |
| rhallisey | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/325527/ | 16:33 |
| coolsvap | i was looking for harlowja_ | 16:33 |
| coolsvap | and i need cores looking at the review | 16:33 |
| coolsvap | proposed by harlowja_ | 16:33 |
| rhallisey | I know inc0 tried it out. I haven't yet | 16:34 |
| coolsvap | and whether we want them in or not | 16:34 |
| coolsvap | and provide update on the requirements review | 16:34 |
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| rhallisey | awsome, thanks coolsvap | 16:35 |
| rhallisey | #topic Non ini config | 16:35 |
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| rhallisey | this might have been a inc0 topic also | 16:35 |
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| pbourke | this came up a few weeks ago on the mailing list | 16:36 |
| Jeffrey4l | are we talking the merge_config? | 16:36 |
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| pbourke | yeah | 16:36 |
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| Jeffrey4l | we talked this in the ML. | 16:36 |
| pbourke | i suggested custom merge modules which sdake seemed to like, never went any further | 16:36 |
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| Jeffrey4l | 1. solution is using more merge stragy, like override, append | 16:37 |
| rhallisey | do you have a link to the thread | 16:37 |
| * rhallisey is looking | 16:37 | |
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| pbourke | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/093936.html | 16:37 |
| pbourke | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/093936.html | 16:38 |
| pbourke | is that right? | 16:38 |
| rhallisey | perfect thx | 16:38 |
| Jeffrey4l | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/093936.html | 16:38 |
| Jeffrey4l | correct | 16:38 |
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| pbourke | unless someone is prepared to write those merge modules I would say we need an easier solution | 16:39 |
| rhallisey | pbourke, I didn't follow the thread closely, was there a solution agreed upon? | 16:39 |
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| rhallisey | ok | 16:39 |
| pbourke | rhallisey: not really | 16:39 |
| Mech422 | stupid question...doesn't that awesome config file tool support OS configs yet.. | 16:39 |
| Mech422 | dam - let me get name real quick | 16:39 |
| pbourke | Mech422: crudini? | 16:39 |
| rhallisey | pbourke, so we may need to bump that thread and get the discussion going again | 16:40 |
| Mech422 | pbourke: no - RH did one that parses like every config file in the system | 16:40 |
| rhallisey | I read though and see if I have an idea | 16:40 |
| Mech422 | pbourke: http://augeas.net/ | 16:41 |
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| Mech422 | augeas | 16:41 |
| pbourke | interesting | 16:41 |
| Jeffrey4l | i think the apache conf file is the hardest one. it is hard to tokenized. | 16:41 |
| Mech422 | pbourke: you have to 'teach' it the file format - but then its REALLY nice for updatign stuff | 16:41 |
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| Jeffrey4l | is augeas support apache config file ? | 16:42 |
| Mech422 | pbourke: Here's what it can handle already: http://augeas.net/stock_lenses.html | 16:42 |
| pbourke | #link http://multivax.blogspot.co.uk/2011/02/managing-apache-config-with-augeas.html | 16:42 |
| pbourke | might be a runner | 16:42 |
| pbourke | we should look into it and follow up on the mailing list | 16:43 |
| pbourke | thanks Mech422! | 16:43 |
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| rhallisey | pbourke Mech422 how about we follow up on the ML | 16:43 |
| Mech422 | Jeffrey4l: I think so - its RH tool - so apache is under 'http' in that list | 16:43 |
| rhallisey | breath some life into that thread | 16:43 |
| rhallisey | thanks for the pointer Mech422 | 16:43 |
| Mech422 | np | 16:43 |
| Jeffrey4l | seems cool | 16:44 |
| rhallisey | k let's move to gates | 16:44 |
| Mech422 | it would be useful to more then just Kolla too... | 16:44 |
| rhallisey | #topic Gate stability and voting | 16:44 |
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| rhallisey | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/097401.html | 16:44 |
| rhallisey | dmsimard made a good point about our gates | 16:45 |
| Jeffrey4l | 1. gate is buggy now. need more eye on it. | 16:45 |
| rhallisey | there are a bit flaky and are not voting | 16:45 |
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| rhallisey | I agree Jeffrey4l | 16:45 |
| Jeffrey4l | 2. i think it is time to remove the `non-voting` flag to the ubuntu/centos gate job. | 16:46 |
| pbourke | +1 | 16:46 |
| rhallisey | considering kolla's priorities for N, this is definitely up there. Gating has been a weakness for kolla | 16:46 |
| coolsvap | +1 | 16:46 |
| Jeffrey4l | in this way, it will enforce the commiter to notice the build/deploy gate result. | 16:46 |
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| mandre | that will force us to fix the flaky gates | 16:46 |
| rhallisey | mandre, that's a good point | 16:47 |
| pbourke | Sam used to mention mirrors as a major blocker for making the gates voting | 16:47 |
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| pbourke | I dont fully understand it though tbh | 16:47 |
| mandre | so we're already using mirrors for pip and ubuntu packages | 16:47 |
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| mandre | there is apparently mirrors for centos, since a few weeks ago | 16:48 |
| Jeffrey4l | kolla failed most not because the repo mirror. | 16:48 |
| pbourke | there's centos mirrors all around the world though no? | 16:48 |
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| dcwangmit01 | hi | 16:48 |
| mandre | pbourke: centos mirrors hosted in infra | 16:48 |
| rhallisey | dcwangmit01, hey :) | 16:48 |
| Jeffrey4l | yes. centos mirrors around the world and it will use the fastest ones. | 16:48 |
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| pbourke | mandre: that would be faster sure, but I dont see how lack of infra mirrors could ever block kolla dev | 16:49 |
| Jeffrey4l | mandre, what's the url? kolla do not use the centos mirror from infra. | 16:49 |
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| pbourke | will say one thing, making flaky mirrors voting will put off new contributors | 16:49 |
| mandre | let me find the announce email | 16:50 |
| wirehead_ | Yeah. I know that dcwangmit01 tried several times to get a full passing set of gates and every time a different set failed. | 16:50 |
| mandre | http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cloud.openstack.infrastructure/4286 | 16:50 |
| rhallisey | pbourke, it could, but so will broken code that gets merged because of flaky gates | 16:50 |
| Jeffrey4l | pbourke, but it is one thing we must do. otherwise, new commit may introduce more and more bugs. | 16:50 |
| wirehead_ | Then again, flaky non-voting gates is will also spoil the average noob dev's tea. | 16:50 |
| pbourke | rhallisey: 95% of failures are not code related | 16:51 |
| pbourke | imo | 16:51 |
| pbourke | they will rage quit | 16:51 |
| dcwangmit01 | I was obsessive about "recheck"'ing the tests, each time getting a different set of failures for different reasons | 16:51 |
| pbourke | I think a better approach is to start collecting a list of all failures from now on | 16:51 |
| pbourke | create bugs for them | 16:51 |
| rhallisey | I do agree, but then that's lame to think our gate isn't passing 95% of the time | 16:51 |
| pbourke | Im not saying they fail 95% of the time | 16:51 |
| wirehead_ | Well, we can always split up the gates a bit more. | 16:51 |
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| Jeffrey4l | mandre, cool we can enable the centos infra mirror in kolla. | 16:52 |
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| pbourke | im saying when the do fail 95% of that is not related to the patch | 16:52 |
| pbourke | 9 mins left, now people are aware of the issue I suggest they reply to the ML thread | 16:53 |
| pbourke | and we come up with some solutions | 16:53 |
| rhallisey | ya agreed | 16:53 |
| rhallisey | pbourke, do you want to start a thread or shall I? | 16:53 |
| rhallisey | or we could add onto daves | 16:53 |
| pbourke | rhallisey: say we just use daves | 16:53 |
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| rhallisey | k let's continue the discussion there | 16:54 |
| Jeffrey4l | ok. | 16:54 |
| rhallisey | #topic Open Discussion | 16:54 |
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| Jeffrey4l | https://review.openstack.org/329808 | 16:54 |
| Jeffrey4l | here. | 16:54 |
| Jeffrey4l | need review :D | 16:54 |
| pbourke | is there any reason we wanted to enforce the new kernel | 16:55 |
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| pbourke | Jeffrey4l: did you check the log for the original commit? | 16:55 |
| wirehead_ | Oh, so I noticed a few +2's on our Kolla patches already, but if someone could review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327925/ that blocks a lot of other patches from being merged. | 16:55 |
| Jeffrey4l | pbourke, the doc say aufs not works very well on the old kernel ( < 3.19 ) | 16:56 |
| rhallisey | didn't 14.04 not work for a time? | 16:56 |
| rhallisey | maybe that's why? | 16:56 |
| wirehead_ | I've had issues building Centos for roughly the same reason. | 16:56 |
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| Jeffrey4l | wirehead_, you mean build centos on the ubuntu? it is a bug from aufs. | 16:56 |
| Jeffrey4l | rhallisey, 14.04 works. Our CI is use 14.04 for host os. | 16:57 |
| wirehead_ | No, building Centos images from stock Docker because of the same issue with AUFS. | 16:57 |
| rhallisey | not now, but a few months ago | 16:57 |
| rhallisey | I thought there was some discussion about it | 16:57 |
| rhallisey | could be wrong | 16:57 |
| rhallisey | oh one more thing everyone | 16:58 |
| Jeffrey4l | even though aufs do not works. We should recommend the user to use other storage driver, rather than upgrade the kernel. | 16:58 |
| Jeffrey4l | rhallisey, no idea for that. | 16:58 |
| rhallisey | since I know some people were here at 16:30 UTC | 16:58 |
| wirehead_ | Jeffrey4l: I can get behind that. | 16:58 |
| rhallisey | according to the ML proposal the meeting is moved to 16:00 UTC | 16:58 |
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| rhallisey | just a heads up for those that were late. We are at 16:00 UTC now | 16:59 |
| rhallisey | Jeffrey4l, kk | 16:59 |
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| rhallisey | 1 minute left! | 16:59 |
| Jeffrey4l | rhallisey, we may need re-claim the meeting time and update the wiki page. | 16:59 |
| coolsvap | Jeffrey4l, its already up for review | 16:59 |
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| coolsvap | i think might have been merged | 16:59 |
| Jeffrey4l | cool | 16:59 |
| Jeffrey4l | wirehead_, thanks. | 16:59 |
| rhallisey | Jeffrey4l, ya I think sdake is already on top of it | 17:00 |
| rhallisey | ok thanks everyone! | 17:00 |
| coolsvap | but i am still not sure how it came half n hour early for me | 17:00 |
| rhallisey | #endmeeting kolla | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 15 17:00:15 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-06-15-16.27.html | 17:00 |
| rhallisey | coolsvap, :) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-06-15-16.27.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-06-15-16.27.log.html | 17:00 |
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| dougwig | no lib meeting today | 17:28 |
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| JRobinson__ | Hi All, | 20:56 |
| JRobinson__ | I'll start the User Guide Meeting in the next 5 to 7 minutes. | 20:57 |
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| JRobinson__ | #startmeeting docuserguides | 21:06 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 15 21:06:15 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is JRobinson__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: docuserguides)" | 21:06 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'docuserguides' | 21:06 |
| JRobinson__ | Okay, there was some delay starting today | 21:06 |
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| JRobinson__ | Now that that's dealt with, is anyone here for the User Guide Meeting today? | 21:07 |
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| JRobinson__ | Most likely just me, I think. Okay, so just a short agenda today. | 21:10 |
| JRobinson__ | #topic action items from last meeting | 21:10 |
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| JRobinson__ | There are no items at the moment | 21:10 |
| JRobinson__ | everything is continuing slowly: IA plans, which I'll get into, link updates, and docs liaison messaging. | 21:11 |
| JRobinson__ | #topic IA Plan | 21:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "IA Plan (Meeting topic: docuserguides)" | 21:11 | |
| JRobinson__ | So I have made a start here. | 21:11 |
| JRobinson__ | #info Any thoughts about the User Guides IA - Please message myself, or the OpenStack Docs Mailing list as any new ideas on improving the User Guide IA is useful | 21:12 |
| JRobinson__ | But any new ideas that can constructively add to the guides would be helpful. | 21:12 |
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| JRobinson__ | #topic Link Changes | 21:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Link Changes (Meeting topic: docuserguides)" | 21:13 | |
| JRobinson__ | I have had some in team discussions about Link Changes. | 21:13 |
| JRobinson__ | #Info If anyone spots any out of date links to the Cloud Admin Doc, please checkout a bug, or a create a small patch. | 21:14 |
| JRobinson__ | #Info Reminder - tag any changes to the user or admin guides with [User Guides] | 21:14 |
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| JRobinson__ | #topic Open Discussion | 21:17 |
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| JRobinson__ | If there's no other points to add, I'll close the meeting | 21:17 |
| JRobinson__ | The only other point I have - the APAC meeting time is unfortunately cancelled for this week. | 21:18 |
| JRobinson__ | I have another meeting this week that clashes with the time unfortunately. | 21:18 |
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| JRobinson__ | Okay, thanks all | 21:20 |
| JRobinson__ | #endmeeting | 21:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:21 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 15 21:20:58 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:21 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docuserguides/2016/docuserguides.2016-06-15-21.06.html | 21:21 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docuserguides/2016/docuserguides.2016-06-15-21.06.txt | 21:21 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docuserguides/2016/docuserguides.2016-06-15-21.06.log.html | 21:21 |
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