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gsagie | #startmeeting dragonflow | 09:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 6 09:00:16 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gsagie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: dragonflow)" | 09:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'dragonflow' | 09:00 |
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gsagie | Hello everyone, | 09:00 |
gampel | Hi | 09:00 |
vikasc | hi | 09:00 |
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oanson | Hi | 09:00 |
hujie | Hi | 09:00 |
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gsagie | Hello | 09:01 |
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gsagie | #info gampel, oanson, vikasc, hujie, gsagie in meeting | 09:01 |
gsagie | Any other lost dragons out there? | 09:01 |
gsagie | #info guest of honor saggi | 09:01 |
gampel | @eshed will join soon | 09:02 |
gsagie | cool, lets wait for him | 09:02 |
oanson | gsagie, that's another guest of honour | 09:02 |
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gsagie | indeed, i will announce it upon his arrival! | 09:02 |
Shlomo_N | hi | 09:02 |
gsagie | #info Shlomo_N in meeting, yuli_s suppose to be in meeting.. | 09:03 |
hujie | Eran, I'll miss you :) | 09:03 |
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* yamamoto_ peeking | 09:03 | |
gsagie | ohhh, hujie you heard the news? | 09:03 |
gampel | yes I will still be around in DF | 09:03 |
gampel | thx | 09:03 |
gsagie | #info yamamoto is in the meeting and our 2nd guest of honor | 09:04 |
oshidoshi | ola! | 09:04 |
gsagie | #info oshidoshi has entered the room and is our 3rd guest of honor | 09:04 |
hujie | best wishes :) | 09:04 |
oshidoshi | the honorable oshidoshi, please | 09:04 |
gsagie | hujie: byran munich is having hard times.. | 09:04 |
gsagie | anyway i see DuanKebo is not here? | 09:05 |
gsagie | nick-ma? | 09:05 |
gsagie | #topic open patches | 09:05 |
*** openstack changes topic to "open patches (Meeting topic: dragonflow)" | 09:05 | |
gsagie | We were presenting Dragonflow in OpenStack Israel day last week thats why we were a bit busy | 09:05 |
hujie | yes, I expect it good perform next year :) | 09:05 |
gsagie | It really got alot of interest locally from Israeli companies and hopefully we can start some more collaborations soon | 09:06 |
gsagie | hujie: thats because they didnt take Yossi Benayun | 09:06 |
hujie | benayun is very good player | 09:06 |
gsagie | hujie, vikasc: any open patches that needs our review? | 09:07 |
gsagie | in Dragonflow? | 09:07 |
hujie | yes | 09:07 |
oanson | I have two patches I'd be happy for review. | 09:07 |
hujie | my db consistency patch | 09:07 |
vikasc | only one patch I have | 09:07 |
oanson | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309746/ - Metadata service | 09:07 |
gsagie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309746/ - Metadata service | 09:07 |
hujie | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300877/ | 09:07 |
oanson | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/322493/ - OVS RPM installation | 09:07 |
gampel | oanson: i will complete my review on it today | 09:07 |
gsagie | #action gsagie, gampel review open patches | 09:07 |
oanson | Thanks | 09:07 |
hujie | thx | 09:07 |
gsagie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/322493/ - OVS RPM installation | 09:07 |
gsagie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300877/ | 09:07 |
gsagie | #action gsagie, gampel, oanson review Redis HA patch | 09:08 |
oanson | Will do. | 09:08 |
gampel | For the RPM patch we actually have two one by omer and one by | 09:08 |
gsagie | also got this in email, its been some time now and we need to also make sure its merged | 09:08 |
hujie | and I commit a cascading scenario patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/325651/ | 09:08 |
oanson | gampel, they are not mutually exclusive. | 09:08 |
oanson | I have tested my patch on both master and 2.5 branches | 09:08 |
gsagie | hujie: can you explain more about this patch? | 09:08 |
gampel | so we want to move to the master branch of the OVS | 09:09 |
gampel | I think it will be best to stay on the 2.5 branch | 09:09 |
hujie | it describe the communication between two VMs which belong to independent Openstack system | 09:10 |
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gsagie | why do we want to move to OVS master? | 09:10 |
gsagie | hujie: So you mean with Tricircle project? | 09:10 |
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gsagie | hujie: what is the extra work that we are going to add for Dragonflow for that? as this is not "standard" yet | 09:11 |
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gsagie | will take a look at the patch | 09:11 |
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gsagie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/325651/ - Dragonflow and Tricircle integration spec | 09:11 |
gampel | There is a patch submitted to do that but i think we should stay on 2.5 unless there are new features we need on master | 09:11 |
gsagie | gampel: agree | 09:11 |
gsagie | gampel: wondering if there was any special reason to do it | 09:12 |
hujie | it's a cascading patch :) | 09:12 |
gsagie | vikasc: i saw the patch for turning Redis into the default DB at gate is still failing, any help needed on that? | 09:12 |
vikasc | yes gsagie | 09:12 |
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gsagie | vikasc: ok, i will take a look today hopefully | 09:13 |
vikasc | i am not able to figure out why its not able to detect redis, though it is installed successfully | 09:13 |
vikasc | gsagie, thanks | 09:13 |
gsagie | vikasc: what do you mean "detect redis" ? | 09:13 |
oanson | gsagie, the devstack log shows that redis gem (ruby) is installed | 09:14 |
oanson | but when the code tries to import the library, it fails. | 09:14 |
vikasc | gsagie, 2016-06-04 11:53:22.952 | /usr/local/lib/ruby/2.3.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb:55:in `require': cannot load such file -- redis (LoadError) | 09:14 |
hujie | gsagie you mean we do not consider the thicircle or cascading patch? | 09:14 |
gsagie | hujie: we will take a look but i think we need to do a design talk about this more closely, we will need to understand the work that is needed in Dragonflow and how it effect users that might not use Tricircle, but i havent seen the patch yet, so need to read it first | 09:15 |
hujie | ok, thx :) | 09:16 |
gsagie | vikasc, oanson: maybe installed in the wrong place then the import? | 09:16 |
gampel | hujie: I will go over the patch, but we need to make sure we do it in a standard way and not "special" tags | 09:16 |
vikasc | http://logs.openstack.org/38/320838/6/check/gate-dragonflow-dsvm-fullstack-nv/72e7d10/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2016-06-05_16_45_29_467 | 09:16 |
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oanson | I don't know ruby well enough. I will have to test it on my environment. | 09:16 |
vikasc | gsagie, oanson , it works fine on my local machine | 09:17 |
hujie | gampel: ok, I see | 09:17 |
vikasc | gsagie, oanson , I mean if try devstack with committed changes. | 09:17 |
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gsagie | vikasc: you try it on fresh VM? | 09:18 |
vikasc | sure | 09:19 |
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gsagie | i will try to look at it today as well hopefully | 09:19 |
vikasc | gsagie, meanwhile i will try on fresh vm also | 09:19 |
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gsagie | you try it on Fedora btw? | 09:20 |
gsagie | or Ubuntu? | 09:20 |
vikasc | ubuntu | 09:20 |
gsagie | ok, we will take a look and let you know if i find anything | 09:21 |
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gsagie | any other open patch that needs look? | 09:21 |
gampel | maybe it is a different version | 09:21 |
gampel | I think that we need to back port few patches to the Mitaka branch | 09:21 |
gsagie | #topic bugs backporting | 09:22 |
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gsagie | gampel: which ? | 09:22 |
gampel | one sec | 09:22 |
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gampel | #link https://github.com/openstack/dragonflow/commit/c98fdb402197fcbac65cb587a58168f9f1d4f2fd | 09:23 |
gampel | #link https://github.com/openstack/dragonflow/commit/fcab5671047855f4d3c0f676dfc15a851ec107c2 | 09:23 |
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gsagie | oshidoshi: welcome back :) | 09:23 |
yuli_s | gsagie, u released version on Jun 1 right ? | 09:23 |
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gsagie | yuli_s: dont remember the date, but you can see it on github | 09:24 |
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oanson | Yes, 1st June. | 09:24 |
gampel | i think this one too https://github.com/openstack/dragonflow/commit/ae0e0f796081e32459311f99611825a3b49428d7 | 09:24 |
yuli_s | oanson, thanks ! | 09:25 |
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gsagie | gampel: ok, i think anyone can suggest to backport it and we just need to merge it | 09:25 |
gampel | I will do it | 09:26 |
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gsagie | okie | 09:26 |
gsagie | #topic bugs | 09:26 |
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gampel | Yuli: any other patches you think we should include ? | 09:26 |
gsagie | anything on that anyone? | 09:26 |
yuli_s | gampel, my bug fixed were merged on 31 | 09:27 |
gsagie | gampel: we need to make sure that these patches are not based on any other patches | 09:27 |
gsagie | that are not included | 09:27 |
yuli_s | so, I suppose they should be in code | 09:27 |
gampel | yes I will check that | 09:27 |
gsagie | or change the backport a bit | 09:27 |
gampel | Ok | 09:27 |
gsagie | yuli_s: you can check in the git log | 09:29 |
gsagie | okie, so i guess nothing special on bugs | 09:29 |
yuli_s | gsagie, i am looking here: | 09:29 |
yuli_s | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:merged+dragonflow | 09:29 |
yuli_s | i personally do not have any active bugs | 09:29 |
gampel | what about this BUG https://bugs.launchpad.net/dragonflow/+bug/1585535 I think it is just testing framework problem | 09:29 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1585535 in DragonFlow "When using zmq, every event is processed two times" [Critical,New] | 09:29 |
yuli_s | the system works ;) | 09:29 |
yuli_s | i will take it | 09:30 |
gsagie | ok | 09:30 |
gampel | I think we are publishing twice in one of the testing | 09:30 |
gsagie | #action yuli_s to look at bug #1585535 | 09:31 |
openstack | bug 1585535 in DragonFlow "When using zmq, every event is processed two times" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1585535 - Assigned to Yuli (stremovsky) | 09:31 |
gsagie | thanks yuli_s | 09:31 |
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yuli_s | np | 09:31 |
gsagie | #topic control and data plan performance and testing | 09:31 |
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gsagie | yuli_s, Shlomo_N: any update on this? | 09:31 |
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yuli_s | gsagie, i started to return to this project today | 09:32 |
yuli_s | I will have the results next meeting | 09:32 |
Shlomo_N | the environment setup is ready and the bandwidth testing is ready as well | 09:32 |
Shlomo_N | working on adding more tests and the reporting | 09:33 |
yuli_s | (i was talking about control path testing) | 09:33 |
Shlomo_N | I think we missed this potential bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/dragonflow/+bug/1538124 | 09:33 |
openstack | Shlomo_N: Error: malone bug 1538124 not found | 09:33 |
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Shlomo_N | also this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/dragonflow/+bug/1571551 | 09:34 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1571551 in DragonFlow "Kernel module vport_geneve.ko fails to load on ubuntu" [Undecided,New] | 09:34 |
gsagie | anyone interested to look at this bug? | 09:34 |
Shlomo_N | and seems that no one really working on this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/dragonflow/+bug/1582122 | 09:34 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1582122 in DragonFlow "unstack couldn't unload openvswitch module" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to lei zhang (zhang-lei) | 09:34 |
Shlomo_N | I propose taking it offline | 09:35 |
gsagie | okie | 09:35 |
gsagie | lets take this offline | 09:35 |
Shlomo_N | and continue the meeting | 09:35 |
gsagie | #topic open discussion | 09:35 |
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gsagie | anything else anyone? | 09:36 |
Shlomo_N | nop | 09:36 |
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oanson | I have nothing | 09:37 |
gsagie | gampel ? | 09:37 |
gsagie | hujie ? | 09:37 |
gampel | we need to continue working on the roadmap etherpad | 09:37 |
gsagie | yuli_s ? | 09:37 |
gsagie | ohhh yes | 09:38 |
hujie | I have nothing thx | 09:38 |
gsagie | the roadmap etherpad, need to prioritize the actions there | 09:38 |
yuli_s | sorry | 09:38 |
gsagie | nice one gampel :) | 09:38 |
gsagie | you have the memory of a lion | 09:38 |
yuli_s | the system works preatty good | 09:38 |
gampel | we can do it next week | 09:38 |
oanson | gsagie, elephant | 09:38 |
gsagie | okie lets go over it next week, saggi would like to finish the meeting | 09:39 |
oshidoshi1 | gsagie: can you share the link to etherpad roadmap pls | 09:39 |
gsagie | and He is the guest of honor after all.. | 09:39 |
gsagie | oshidoshi: sure, sec | 09:39 |
gsagie | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/dragonflow-newton | 09:39 |
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oshidoshi1 | gsagie: god bless you | 09:40 |
gsagie | we do need to discuss about it when nick-ma and DuanKebo are here anyway | 09:40 |
hujie | I could not find duankebo | 09:40 |
gampel | Sure lets do it next week or in the Df channel | 09:40 |
gsagie | hujie: np, we will do it next week | 09:40 |
hujie | ok | 09:41 |
gsagie | ok everyone, unless anyone has anything else to share | 09:41 |
gsagie | ... | 09:41 |
gsagie | Its time to let the dragon flow | 09:41 |
gsagie | ;) | 09:41 |
oshidoshi1 | (: | 09:41 |
gsagie | saggi: ? anything to add | 09:41 |
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gsagie | ok thanks everyone for attending | 09:42 |
Shlomo_N | bye bye | 09:42 |
gsagie | and see you next week or in #openstack-dragonflow | 09:42 |
oanson | Thanks. Bye. | 09:42 |
gampel | bye thx | 09:42 |
hujie | bye | 09:42 |
gsagie | #action gsagie look at redis as default DB in gate patch | 09:42 |
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yuli_s | bye | 09:42 |
vikasc | bye | 09:42 |
gsagie | #endmeeting | 09:42 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 09:42 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 6 09:42:40 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:42 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-06-06-09.00.html | 09:42 |
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openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-06-06-09.00.txt | 09:42 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-06-06-09.00.log.html | 09:42 |
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salv-orl_ | kuryr meeting? | 14:03 |
banix | i’m here. others? | 14:04 |
hongbin | waiting for the meeting as wel | 14:04 |
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banix | hmmm. I am sorry but toni, gal, irena, and taku are not here; let’s wait a couple of more minutes. I see fawadkhaliq salv-orl_ hongbin and vikasc are around | 14:07 |
salv-orl_ | np | 14:07 |
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hongbin | fawadkhaliq: hey | 14:10 |
apuimedo | #startmeeting kuryr | 14:10 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 6 14:10:48 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is apuimedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:10 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:10 |
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apuimedo | hongbin: fawadkhaliq banix are here | 14:11 |
apuimedo | who else is here? | 14:11 |
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salv-orl_ | apuimedo: aloha | 14:11 |
* apuimedo was having a final boss battle with a load balancer | 14:11 | |
apuimedo | #info hongbin, fawadkhaliq, banix, salv-orl_ and apuimedo present | 14:12 |
apuimedo | #topic libnetwork | 14:12 |
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apuimedo | Liping Mao has been sending some patches to fix some issues we had in devstack and in libnetwork general | 14:13 |
apuimedo | today we merged two of them | 14:13 |
apuimedo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323453/ | 14:13 |
apuimedo | this one just moved the problem around but bought us some time | 14:14 |
apuimedo | I think that we should be lazier | 14:14 |
apuimedo | we should probably delay talking to neutron to set up stuff and detect capabilities until the first usage | 14:14 |
apuimedo | thoughts? | 14:15 |
salv-orl_ | nope sounds good to me | 14:15 |
banix | on “we should be lazier”, I don’t think it is possible, on “detecting capabilities with the first usage” sounds good | 14:16 |
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apuimedo | banix: do not underestimate southern europe laziness | 14:17 |
apuimedo | good | 14:17 |
apuimedo | #action we are to move to lazy neutron capability detection | 14:17 |
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apuimedo | if somebody has time for that this week, let me know | 14:17 |
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apuimedo | #info There is https://github.com/openstack/kuryr-libnetwork. We should move there As soon as we have the fullstack tests fixed | 14:18 |
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apuimedo | do we all agree to move before the first release? | 14:19 |
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banix | sure | 14:20 |
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apuimedo | very well | 14:20 |
fawadkhaliq | apuimedo: makes sense. better to make such changes before it. | 14:20 |
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apuimedo | #info the priority is to fix the fullstack test that is currently red, then move to kuryr-libnetwork repo | 14:20 |
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apuimedo | Anybody has anything else on libnetwork? | 14:20 |
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banix | apuimedo: who is working on that? | 14:21 |
banix | the fullstack test i mean | 14:21 |
apuimedo | I think baohua was on some fullstack test | 14:23 |
apuimedo | but a separate one iirc | 14:23 |
apuimedo | and liping error fixing was probably working towards the current one | 14:23 |
apuimedo | but I don't know his irc | 14:23 |
apuimedo | nick | 14:23 |
apuimedo | limao apparently | 14:24 |
banix | ok thanks | 14:24 |
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apuimedo | #action apuimedo to message the mailing list about the failed fullstack test | 14:24 |
apuimedo | banix: any news on the "wait for the ports to become active" ? | 14:25 |
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banix | apuimedo: I think the two options remain polling neutron server or monitoring the message queue | 14:26 |
apuimedo | banix: what about you take this to the ML and we finally all take a decision on this then? | 14:26 |
banix | sounds good | 14:27 |
apuimedo | thanks | 14:27 |
apuimedo | #action banix to go to the ML about waiting for ports to become active | 14:27 |
apuimedo | #topic kubernetes | 14:28 |
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apuimedo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320545/ | 14:28 |
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apuimedo | there is a first WIP of the CNI driver for the kubernetes integration | 14:29 |
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apuimedo | salv-orl_: maybe you can cast criticism on it | 14:29 |
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apuimedo | everybody is welcome to that | 14:29 |
salv-orl_ | apuimedo: why I may post my appraisal of it instead | 14:29 |
* salv-orl_ feels very positive this week ;) | 14:29 | |
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apuimedo | salv-orl_: ok, but at least include one or two puns | 14:30 |
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apuimedo | #action apuimedo to get the API watcher first commits to kuryr-kubernetes watcher this week | 14:30 |
apuimedo | we have a bit of a discussion with tfukushima these days about what to do when events are missed | 14:31 |
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apuimedo | and keeping track of resource indexes | 14:31 |
apuimedo | I'll try to give it shape before I bring to ML though | 14:32 |
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apuimedo | so far, I'm still convinced that different watchers should be able to work independently | 14:32 |
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apuimedo | questions about the k8s integration? (Why is it still not there yet is a valid question) | 14:33 |
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salv-orl_ | did you try the networkpolicy API translation already? | 14:33 |
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apuimedo | salv-orl_: not yet. I've been mostly stabilizing and trying to break tfukushima's code when things are missing | 14:35 |
salv-orl_ | apuimedo: cool thanks | 14:35 |
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apuimedo | I don't think I'll get to it before the end of the month | 14:35 |
apuimedo | unless somebody sends a policy spec | 14:35 |
apuimedo | I can get to reviewing earlier :P | 14:35 |
apuimedo | #topic containers-in-VMs | 14:36 |
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apuimedo | hongbin: fawadkhaliq: any updates? | 14:36 |
fawadkhaliq | yes, I am splitting the work items into smaller items as we will have collaboration between different members | 14:36 |
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fawadkhaliq | I might have another person helping me here. And Omer (from gsagie's team) might also be there | 14:37 |
fawadkhaliq | Will share the plan and we kick off the work | 14:37 |
apuimedo | great to hear that! | 14:37 |
hongbin | I wonder roughly what will be the work items | 14:38 |
fawadkhaliq | Also need to have clear information for Magnum folks | 14:38 |
apuimedo | fawadkhaliq: where will you put those items on bluprints? | 14:38 |
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fawadkhaliq | I think we can update the spec | 14:38 |
fawadkhaliq | does that work? | 14:38 |
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hongbin | From Magnum side, Ton Ngo is the liaison. I can serve as a backend | 14:39 |
apuimedo | fawadkhaliq: works for me | 14:39 |
apuimedo | good | 14:39 |
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fawadkhaliq | thanks hongbin, thats great | 14:39 |
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apuimedo | fawadkhaliq: is there anything else we can help with towards the task split? | 14:39 |
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fawadkhaliq | apuimedo: thanks, will let you know | 14:39 |
apuimedo | (else apart from reviews :P ) | 14:39 |
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apuimedo | very well | 14:40 |
apuimedo | #topic general | 14:40 |
fawadkhaliq | thanks, will definitely need help ;) | 14:40 |
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apuimedo | hongbin: you started the higgins project, right? | 14:40 |
hongbin | yes | 14:40 |
hongbin | apuimedo: anything specific you want to know? | 14:41 |
apuimedo | I wanted to know if you plan to interface with Kuryr to get the libnetwork/cni driver work to consume the neutron networks | 14:41 |
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hongbin | It is under discussion. I think we will use Kuryr for libnetwork | 14:42 |
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hongbin | For cni, not sure yet, since k8s integration is not the priority | 14:42 |
apuimedo | hongbin: I meant for rkt | 14:42 |
hongbin | apuimedo: the initial focus is docker. rkt is under discussion, maybe it willl be the second driver | 14:43 |
apuimedo | hongbin: very well. Thanks! | 14:43 |
hongbin | np | 14:43 |
apuimedo | be sure to come to us if there is any help we can bring | 14:43 |
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hongbin | ack. thx | 14:44 |
apuimedo | #info higgins is tentatively studying going with kuryr for libnetwork | 14:44 |
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apuimedo | I want to ask now about config | 14:44 |
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apuimedo | are you all fine if we move all the neutron/keystone config to a separate client section like nova has | 14:44 |
apuimedo | ? | 14:45 |
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apuimedo | fawadkhaliq: banix salv-orlando devvesa ? | 14:45 |
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salv-orlando | no opposition from me | 14:45 |
fawadkhaliq | +! | 14:45 |
fawadkhaliq | +1 | 14:45 |
banix | sure | 14:45 |
banix | ok with me | 14:45 |
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apuimedo | thanks | 14:46 |
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apuimedo | #action apuimedo to send a patch changing the config to move keystone/neutron to its own client section like in nova | 14:46 |
apuimedo | #topic open discussion | 14:46 |
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apuimedo | Anything else from anybody? | 14:46 |
apuimedo | BTW, I've been informed that Raven (the name I proposed for the Kubernetes API watcher) kinda sucks | 14:47 |
apuimedo | :P | 14:47 |
apuimedo | so I'm open to suggestions before we start sending code for it :P | 14:47 |
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apuimedo | going once | 14:49 |
apuimedo | going twice | 14:49 |
apuimedo | gone! | 14:49 |
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apuimedo | thank you all for joining! | 14:49 |
apuimedo | #endmeeting | 14:49 |
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fawadkhaliq | bye | 14:49 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-06-06-14.10.html | 14:49 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-06-06-14.10.txt | 14:49 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-06-06-14.10.log.html | 14:49 |
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salv-orlando | adieuu | 14:50 |
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sarob | #startmeeting craton | 15:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 6 15:00:48 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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sigmavirus24 | o/ | 15:00 |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'craton' | 15:00 |
sarob | roll call! | 15:00 |
sigmavirus24 | Hi! I'm Ian Cordasco (Rackspace) | 15:01 |
sarob | hey sigmavirus24 | 15:01 |
sigmavirus24 | hey there sarob | 15:01 |
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sulo | o/ folks, Sulochan Acharya from Rackspace | 15:02 |
sarob | hello sulo | 15:02 |
sarob | there wasnt an agenda posted at | 15:03 |
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sulo | yeah we've been kinda heads down with phase 1 stuff | 15:03 |
sarob | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/craton | 15:03 |
sarob | lets start there | 15:03 |
sulo | hopefully from next week we have a better meeting plan | 15:03 |
sarob | #what's phase 1 stuff | 15:03 |
sarob | #topic what's phase 1 stuff | 15:04 |
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sulo | so i think we discussed this briefly during first meeting | 15:04 |
sarob | give me very high level | 15:04 |
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sulo | we wanted to get a minimal working product (MVP sort) | 15:04 |
sulo | with atleast a working inventory | 15:04 |
sarob | for newton release | 15:04 |
sulo | with rest and python api | 15:04 |
sarob | sounds reasonable | 15:05 |
sarob | some thought around python version | 15:05 |
sarob | assuming the plan is to write it in python | 15:05 |
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sulo | sarob: so i think the consensus is py3 all the way | 15:06 |
sarob | expected | 15:06 |
sulo | but support py27 for client | 15:06 |
sarob | so the code at #link https://github.com/rackerlabs/craton | 15:06 |
sarob | is the start? | 15:06 |
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sulo | sarob: yes | 15:06 |
sulo | we've been tracking issues etc there as well for now | 15:07 |
sulo | but i assume we will move to openstack infra soon | 15:07 |
sarob | long list | 15:07 |
sarob | i can take care of the move when we have a team discussion to move | 15:08 |
sulo | sounds good | 15:08 |
sulo | i think it should be a action item for next meet | 15:08 |
sarob | we will need to move the issues to launchpad | 15:08 |
sarob | as well | 15:08 |
sulo | +1 | 15:09 |
sarob | oh, agenda sstart now | 15:09 |
* sarob likes | 15:09 | |
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sarob | #action sarob add when to move to openstack github org to next weeks agenda | 15:10 |
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sarob | ill write up some basic steps like launchpad use | 15:10 |
sulo | cool | 15:11 |
sarob | newton release publish | 15:11 |
sulo | also there is some work started on the cli | 15:11 |
sarob | client is good | 15:11 |
sarob | separate repo? | 15:11 |
sulo | yes | 15:11 |
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sulo | i think folks have started to work on the doc in teh same repo right now | 15:12 |
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sarob | python-craton-client? | 15:12 |
sarob | or just doc on what to build so far? | 15:12 |
sulo | i think jim has python-craton reserved or soemthing need to check on that but yes in general | 15:13 |
sulo | sarob: yes https://github.com/rackerlabs/craton/pull/84 | 15:13 |
sarob | roger that | 15:13 |
sulo | is a start .. i think we need to clenup the api docs a bit more | 15:13 |
sulo | so that it matches up with what the cli expects | 15:13 |
sulo | i am refering to https://github.com/rackerlabs/craton/blob/master/craton/api-ref/swagger/swagger-inventory-api.yaml | 15:14 |
sulo | and is purely for craton-inventory | 15:14 |
sulo | we will surely have more on workflow api | 15:14 |
sarob | okay so i think phase 1 : inventory, basic client, major bugfixes, api = newton releaese | 15:14 |
sarob | plus docs | 15:14 |
sulo | that sounds good | 15:15 |
sarob | thats probably alot for a new team | 15:15 |
sulo | yeah | 15:15 |
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sarob | ill work on getting you a few contributors from my larger team | 15:16 |
sulo | so one item i had was what if anything do we want to add in inventory modeling | 15:16 |
sulo | this question purely comes from our previous discussion | 15:16 |
* sarob reviewing | 15:16 | |
sulo | i think few folks from walmart labs were looking at including cinder swift into inventory | 15:16 |
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sulo | i had started tracking it here: https://github.com/rackerlabs/craton/issues/63 | 15:17 |
sulo | would be nice to include any changes in this cycle | 15:17 |
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sulo | this is assuming that the current inv model does not meet the need | 15:18 |
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sarob | looks like hvprash and anton put their hand up | 15:18 |
sarob | hvprash_: you online? | 15:19 |
sarob | hvprash: you online? | 15:19 |
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sarob | #action hyprash, anton: researching https://github.com/rackerlabs/craton/issues/63 | 15:19 |
sulo | we can leave that as something to discuss next week if folks are not around today | 15:19 |
sarob | yup | 15:19 |
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sulo | k | 15:19 |
sarob | action list for follow up | 15:20 |
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sarob | speaking of that | 15:20 |
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sarob | #topic follow up action items from last week | 15:20 |
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sarob | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/craton/2016/craton.2016-05-23-14.31.html | 15:21 |
sulo | thanks for that :) | 15:21 |
sarob | #info item 1 we just pushed to next week | 15:21 |
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sarob | #info item 2 jimbaker describe integration with external rest api-based cmdb (such as rackspace core) | 15:21 |
sarob | jimbaker: is on vaca | 15:22 |
sarob | i heard | 15:22 |
sulo | yeah he is out today | 15:22 |
sarob | #link https://github.com/rackerlabs/craton/issues/2 | 15:23 |
sarob | is that the issue tracking the action item? | 15:23 |
sulo | yes | 15:24 |
sigmavirus24 | sarob: I think #2 describes Craton's API? | 15:24 |
sulo | we might not be tracking the correct ones though | 15:24 |
sulo | for that epic | 15:24 |
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sarob | closer inspection looks like the issue doesnt exist yet | 15:25 |
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sarob | any details on what type of integration we are talking about here? | 15:26 |
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sigmavirus24 | sarob: I think of the cmd integration like keystone's ldap integration | 15:26 |
sigmavirus24 | Does that make sense? | 15:26 |
sulo | i think it was about integrating external cmdb type systems example rax or oneops with craton api | 15:26 |
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sarob | okey dokey | 15:27 |
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sarob | #action jimbaker follow up on describe, post issue on integration with external rest api-based cmdb (such as rackspace core, oneops) | 15:28 |
sarob | that is for last week | 15:28 |
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sarob | #topic new topics | 15:29 |
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sarob | i have one or two people that are going to start working on this project | 15:30 |
sulo | awesome | 15:30 |
sarob | ill see if i can get them up this early ;) | 15:31 |
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sarob | everyone seems to be on hawaii time | 15:31 |
sarob | which is convenent for holding meetings in hawaii | 15:31 |
sarob | anything else for the record before I call this meeting? | 15:32 |
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sulo | nothing from my side | 15:32 |
sulo | thanks sarob | 15:32 |
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sarob | thanks for attending | 15:32 |
sarob | have a great week | 15:33 |
sarob | #endmeeting | 15:33 |
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openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/craton/2016/craton.2016-06-06-15.00.html | 15:33 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/craton/2016/craton.2016-06-06-15.00.txt | 15:33 |
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Sukhdev | Folks, time for Ironic-neutron meeting | 16:00 |
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Sukhdev | #startmeeting ironic_neutron | 16:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 6 16:01:16 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic_neutron' | 16:01 |
TheJulia | o/ | 16:01 |
mjturek1 | o/ | 16:01 |
hshiina | o/ | 16:01 |
Sukhdev | good morning everybody | 16:01 |
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devananda | o/ | 16:02 |
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jroll | \o | 16:02 |
* jroll in another meeting at the same time again :( | 16:02 | |
amotoki | o/ | 16:02 |
Sukhdev | jroll : no worries - thanks for attending here | 16:02 |
Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:02 |
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Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron#Meeting_June_6.2C_2016 | 16:02 |
Sukhdev | Let me know if anybody would like to add anything to the agenda | 16:03 |
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Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements | 16:03 |
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Sukhdev | I have no announcements | 16:03 |
Sukhdev | Anybody has any announcements? | 16:03 |
Sukhdev | BTW, I updated my system with the latest patches - will provide update in a bit | 16:04 |
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Sukhdev | #topic: Action Items from previous weeks | 16:04 |
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Sukhdev | I had an action item to check if neutron is creating a model for the bonded interface | 16:05 |
Sukhdev | based upon this spec - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182242/14/specs/newton/approved/user-controlled-sriov-ports-allocation.rst | 16:05 |
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Sukhdev | I reviewed the patch as well as had discussion with Armando | 16:06 |
Sukhdev | this is a nova patch and there is nothing really being worked on neutron which we can use here for BM servers | 16:06 |
Sukhdev | sambetts : are you here? | 16:06 |
sambetts | Yup | 16:06 |
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sambetts | sorry was updating the agenda | 16:07 |
Sukhdev | so, looking at the patch, it seems there is really nothing on the neutron side - it is all nova side of work | 16:07 |
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Sukhdev | sambetts : no worries - did you see my comments above? | 16:08 |
sambetts | Yup, cool, thats good news then :) | 16:09 |
sambetts | I wonder if the Nova side changes can/should affect how we handle our bond placement? | 16:10 |
Sukhdev | but, the spec looks good - it requires some clarification - but, it seems nova may be able to deal with this | 16:10 |
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Sukhdev | sambetts : from what I see, there is minor change in the restructuring of the models - it is mainly to give flexibility to the uses/operators | 16:11 |
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Sukhdev | sambetts : but, yes, there is bond information that can be passed down to the host | 16:11 |
sambetts | ok cool, something to bear in mind from the Ironic nova driver perspective, is there a timescale on the spec? Likely to make it into newton (seems unlikely based on when the feature freeze is)? | 16:12 |
Sukhdev | sambetts : I do not follow nova side of things, I usually rely on jroll for that | 16:13 |
sambetts | I don't see anything list on the BP | 16:13 |
jroll | freeze for nova is end of june | 16:14 |
Sukhdev | I do not believe it is likely - so, we should not rely on it | 16:14 |
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jroll | there isn't a large amount of work to do in nova, I think it's possible to get the current work in | 16:14 |
jroll | but not probable, I guess | 16:14 |
Sukhdev | Anything else on this topic? | 16:15 |
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Sukhdev | I will add this spec on our agenda going forward so that we can track it | 16:16 |
Sukhdev | #topic: Security Groups support for Baremetal | 16:16 |
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Sukhdev | So, I was testing the security group support for BM servers | 16:17 |
Sukhdev | customers really want this to secure the BM deployments | 16:17 |
Sukhdev | So, other than one issue, I got it fully working | 16:18 |
Sukhdev | when we issue neutron port-create, we are not sending the security group ID in the request, which forces neutron to apply default security group | 16:18 |
Sukhdev | which is really deny everything inbound - hence, the server will not boot | 16:19 |
Sukhdev | DHCP will fail and Server will not get IP | 16:19 |
Sukhdev | I tried to fix it two ways - | 16:19 |
Sukhdev | 1) I tried to pass the SG information in the create_port call via port_body | 16:20 |
Sukhdev | neutron did not like it - I have to find a better soulution | 16:20 |
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Sukhdev | 2) Add additional rules to the SG before booting the BM | 16:20 |
Sukhdev | 2) worked like a champ | 16:20 |
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Sukhdev | and, the SG on the flip works great as well | 16:21 |
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devananda | Sukhdev: should we simply be defining default SG on the prov & cleaning networks, then? | 16:21 |
sambetts | I think we should be creating our own an Ironic SG for the provisioning network, and pass it in via port create right? | 16:21 |
Sukhdev | i.e. the SG specified on nova boot --security-group works just fine | 16:21 |
devananda | :) | 16:21 |
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Sukhdev | devananda : yes - we can solve it two ways | 16:22 |
Sukhdev | sambetts : yes - that is what I tried to do - | 16:22 |
devananda | Sukhdev: user should be able to define their own SG for the instance, which may not allow PXE boot, for example | 16:22 |
amotoki | neutron provisions implicit rules which allows DHCP in addition to SG rules. | 16:22 |
devananda | and conversely the user-specified SG should not be able to interfere with ironic's boot/clean phases | 16:23 |
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amotoki | i think we can provision rules which are required for BM server provisioning. | 16:23 |
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Sukhdev | amotoki : I observed two issues - 1) TFTP failed as well as BM did not get IP address on provisioing network | 16:23 |
Sukhdev | once I added ingress rules to the default SG - all worked just fine | 16:24 |
sambetts | so the problem is that we shouldn't be using the default sec group for provisioning | 16:24 |
devananda | sambetts: ++ | 16:24 |
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Sukhdev | So, I would like to throw out a question to the team - | 16:25 |
amotoki | Sukhdev: which phase are you talking now? provisioning phase? | 16:25 |
sambetts | we need a [neutron] security_group_id=<uuid> in the config file and should be passing it at port-create | 16:25 |
Sukhdev | amotoki : provisioning only | 16:25 |
amotoki | Sukhdev: got it | 16:25 |
Sukhdev | amotoki : when network flip takes place, everything works fine - as the correct SG is used for the tenant network | 16:25 |
Sukhdev | So, my question to the team is - | 16:26 |
Sukhdev | Do we want to add additional config knob like provisioning_network_uuid for SG ? | 16:26 |
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sambetts | +1 | 16:26 |
Sukhdev | this will allow operators to create their own SG for provisioning networks | 16:27 |
amotoki | at the moment, +1 to this idea | 16:27 |
Sukhdev | Or are we OK to tell them to add ingress rules to the default SG used for provisioning network | 16:27 |
amotoki | can SG rules for provision vary across operators or deployments? | 16:28 |
Sukhdev | amotoki : good question - I would guess yes | 16:29 |
devananda | I can think of cases where they would, yes | 16:29 |
sambetts | its a possiblity with customised cleaning steps etc that might say download a firmware from somewhere | 16:29 |
sambetts | or other use cases like that | 16:29 |
amotoki | If so, defining a SG for provisioning network makes sense to me. | 16:29 |
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sambetts | there is the possiblity that cleaning and provisioning SG rules may also differ I guess | 16:30 |
sambetts | devananda: do you agree ^ | 16:30 |
Sukhdev | amotoki : I created a SG for provisioning network and tried to hard-code to make it work | 16:30 |
devananda | sambetts: yea. in my case they wouldn't, but in theory, they could | 16:31 |
amotoki | sambetts: agree | 16:31 |
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Sukhdev | So, are we agreeing that we will add two SGs to the ironic config - one for provisioning n/w and other for cleaning? | 16:32 |
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sambetts | thats what I'd expect +1 | 16:33 |
Sukhdev | jroll devananda : what say you? | 16:33 |
devananda | Sukhdev: +1, with docs / defaults that say "these could be the same network" | 16:34 |
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amotoki | +1 | 16:34 |
jroll | I haven't been paying attention enough to say | 16:34 |
Sukhdev | while jroll is probably reading the comments, amotoki I have a quesiton for you | 16:35 |
jroll | "yet another config" isn't great, but if it's needed it's needed | 16:35 |
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Sukhdev | jroll : this provides flexibility to the operators and SG is a hot button with everybody | 16:36 |
jroll | right, it's probably fine | 16:36 |
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Sukhdev | #agreed: We will add two SGs to the ironic config - one for provisioning n/w and other for cleaning | 16:36 |
TheJulia | I think it is okay as long as it can also be defined in the config to none because some oeprators will not use the functionality | 16:36 |
amotoki | have we discussed whether we should provide flexibility or we can achieve the goal with implicit static rules? | 16:36 |
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devananda | TheJulia: very good point | 16:37 |
devananda | Sukhdev: we must be able to *disable* this as well | 16:37 |
Sukhdev | amotoki : we have to enhance the implicit rules to allow TFTP in addition to DHCP | 16:37 |
devananda | eg, because the things that work today must continue to work after this feature is added | 16:38 |
amotoki | in my mind, ironic can define implicit required rules for provisioning network. | 16:38 |
amotoki | it is different from a config option. | 16:38 |
TheJulia | Also, not understanding the implementation details, I worry how/where the packet inspection woudl take place, and if it is on a switchport level, then that might have a performance impact based upon the hardware/software in use in the operator environment, but truthfully that is just my lack of context | 16:38 |
Sukhdev | devananda TheJulia : understood - I will add text on the top of our weekly meeting wiki to clarify it - you can review it and correct it | 16:38 |
Sukhdev | amotoki : that is true - if all deployments will use the same rules | 16:39 |
amotoki | Sukhdev: correct. we can start from SG for provisioning network and if it turns out too much flexibilty, we can drop it later. | 16:39 |
Sukhdev | amotoki : if different operators have different rules (will they?) then config option is better | 16:39 |
Sukhdev | amotoki : +1 | 16:40 |
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Sukhdev | amotoki : I have a different question for you - | 16:40 |
amotoki | Sukhdev: what? | 16:41 |
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Sukhdev | amotoki : I tried to hard code the SG ID in the port-body, for neutron port-create and neutron complains in can not find SG | 16:41 |
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amotoki | hmm.... does not 'security_gorups: ["SG-ID"]' work? | 16:42 |
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amotoki | *security_groups* | 16:42 |
amotoki | Sukhdev: I can test it later. i think we can discuss it separately | 16:43 |
Sukhdev | amotoki : the place where we add binding profile information to the port body (in ironic driver), I tried to add this additional information | 16:43 |
Sukhdev | amotoki : yes, lets take it off-line | 16:43 |
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Sukhdev | Anybody has any thing on this? | 16:44 |
Sukhdev | amotoki and I will work out the details of how to make it work - and either one of will push the patch | 16:44 |
sambetts | where is the code right now? Didn't we dicuss in Austin it would require changes to the mech driver API | 16:44 |
sambetts | ? | 16:44 |
devananda | Sukhdev: if I'm following, then this sounds good | 16:45 |
Sukhdev | sambetts : no - no changes to the mech drivers | 16:45 |
Sukhdev | neutron already has full support for SG - all we have to do it is plumb it on the ironic driver to pass correct SG information | 16:46 |
sambetts | Sukhdev: for switch port programming of ingress/egress rules? | 16:46 |
Sukhdev | upon the network flip, it works like a charm - as we use update_port - and neutron port already has correct SG attached to it based upon nova boot parameters | 16:47 |
Sukhdev | sambetts : oh yea, I see what you are asking - yup, that work is needed of course :-) | 16:47 |
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sambetts | So we can do SGs on the virtual neutron side, but we can't program the ACLs on the switch yet right? | 16:49 |
Sukhdev | sambetts : yes - thats why customers are not happy | 16:49 |
Sukhdev | Hence, we are addressing this - Arista driver supports it | 16:50 |
sambetts | Ok, whats the plan to get that done on the mech driver API / neutron side? | 16:50 |
Sukhdev | there is nothing special needed in the driver - if your driver support SG for Virtual world, it will work for BM world once we plum what we discussed here | 16:51 |
amotoki | are we talking about generic-switch driver? | 16:51 |
Sukhdev | amotoki: I was talking about of vendor drivers - | 16:51 |
sambetts | I think the problem we disucssed was something along the lines of if I update a SG, that event doesn't make it to the mech driver right now so we can't act on it | 16:52 |
Sukhdev | amotoki : more specifically Arista driver | 16:52 |
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Sukhdev | sambetts : correct | 16:52 |
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Sukhdev | sambetts : if we plumb it right, it will appear in the port context of the driver (as it does for virtual world) and things will fall in place | 16:53 |
sambetts | does that require changes in neutron? | 16:53 |
Sukhdev | this will bring BM at par with VM servers in terms of SG support - which is what everybody wants | 16:53 |
Sukhdev | sambetts : no | 16:53 |
sambetts | but if the event doesn | 16:54 |
sambetts | t make it to the mech driver, doesn't that need changing | 16:54 |
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Sukhdev | sambetts: neutron does not need any change - the port context will now have correct information (which is presently missing) - the drivers can act accordingly then | 16:55 |
amotoki | sambetts: yes and no. no need for change in neutron framework including ML2 plugin. mech driver support is needed. | 16:56 |
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sambetts | Sukhdev: and if I do a neutron sec-group-update it'll propergate to ml2 driver to update the ACLs? | 16:57 |
Sukhdev | sambetts : if you are using neutron callbacks, yes | 16:57 |
Sukhdev | sambetts : a notification is generated | 16:57 |
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Sukhdev | sambetts : this is how SG works for Virtual world as well | 16:58 |
Sukhdev | sambetts : ping me off line, I can walk you through the details | 16:58 |
Sukhdev | Anything else on this? | 16:59 |
sambetts | One last question, how do we handle cases where switch hardware only supports a subset of the features of security groups? I've spoken to a couple of people who can only support single direction ACLs | 16:59 |
sambetts | is that down to the mech driver to decide? | 16:59 |
Sukhdev | sambetts: that is very vendor specific thing - you can choose to ignore any event you choose to | 16:59 |
Sukhdev | yes, it is upto vendor driver to decide | 17:00 |
Sukhdev | Folks we are out of time - | 17:00 |
-amotoki- time check | 17:00 | |
sambetts | thanks guys :) | 17:00 |
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Sukhdev | I will keep this on agenda for next week - we can discuss further | 17:00 |
Sukhdev | Thanks for attending - this was a great discussion | 17:00 |
Sukhdev | bye | 17:00 |
Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 17:01 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 6 17:01:05 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:01 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-06-06-16.01.html | 17:01 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-06-06-16.01.txt | 17:01 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-06-06-16.01.log.html | 17:01 |
Sukhdev | Folks, time for L2 Gateway meeting | 17:01 |
Sukhdev | oferby : are you here to attend our L2GW meeting? | 17:01 |
oferby_ | hi Sukhdev | 17:01 |
oferby_ | yep. I'm here | 17:01 |
amotoki | thanks | 17:02 |
Sukhdev | #startmeeting networking_l2gw | 17:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 6 17:02:14 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
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Sukhdev | #topic: agenda | 17:02 |
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Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/L2Gateway#Meeting_June_6.2C_2016 | 17:02 |
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Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements | 17:03 |
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Sukhdev | I do not have any general announcemnt | 17:04 |
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Sukhdev | armax and I have been discussing about L2GW project | 17:05 |
Sukhdev | we need additional contributors for this project | 17:05 |
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Sukhdev | I have spoken to few additional people who have expressed interest | 17:06 |
Sukhdev | oferby_ : if you have folks who would want to participate as well, please encourage them | 17:07 |
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oferby_ | I spoke with armax today. I told him that I have another guy with me that can join and Midekura people also can but | 17:07 |
oferby_ | I must say that I'm getting to be frustrated. I see no progress with what I try to put in | 17:08 |
oferby_ | even the API which is blue print and not code is not being committed | 17:08 |
oferby_ | I'm starting to think that maybe we cannot add what we want (inter cloud connection) as we thought we could. | 17:09 |
Sukhdev | oferby_ : understood and justified as well | 17:09 |
Sukhdev | oferby_ : we have two part issue - I am sure armax must have explained to you | 17:10 |
Sukhdev | 1) adding new features - that is what you want | 17:10 |
Sukhdev | 2) making the foundation of L2GW stable and sound | 17:10 |
Sukhdev | The problem which we are faced with is 2) | 17:11 |
Sukhdev | We believe we need to make the code base solid so that new features can be added | 17:12 |
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Sukhdev | hence, we need some additional volunteers who will address 2) while you are working on 1) | 17:13 |
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Sukhdev | oferby_ : does this make sense to you? | 17:13 |
oferby_ | I see your point but there is no open bugs to reflect unstable code | 17:13 |
Sukhdev | And, we also want to add additional cores to this project - who can participate in the review | 17:14 |
Sukhdev | there are - | 17:14 |
oferby_ | ??? | 17:14 |
Sukhdev | for instance, we do not have any automated tests - | 17:14 |
oferby_ | this is not a bug | 17:14 |
Sukhdev | we have not switched to using standard lib | 17:14 |
oferby_ | again, not a bug | 17:15 |
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Sukhdev | there are hacks in the code - it works, but, can be better | 17:15 |
Sukhdev | oferby_ : there are some bugs, I believe | 17:15 |
oferby_ | I personally worked in the bug that we found | 17:15 |
Sukhdev | https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-l2gw | 17:15 |
oferby_ | that DVR is not working | 17:15 |
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itamarofek | Hi, Hope I'm not too late | 17:16 |
Sukhdev | itamarofek : welcome | 17:16 |
oferby_ | but armax do not want to put it in because it is not done in a way that the routing will be done by hardware router | 17:16 |
oferby_ | I tried to tell him that the code now does not work at all | 17:17 |
oferby_ | and it is better to have code that is not the *BEST* but fix the issue | 17:17 |
oferby_ | but he does not agree and we have a critical issue that is unresolved. | 17:18 |
Sukhdev | oferby_ : swami filed an RFE which overlaps with your work - perhaps he wanted you work with swami to make sure you both are addressing it in a correct way | 17:18 |
Sukhdev | oferby_: do you have link to his RFE? | 17:18 |
Swami | Sukhdev: oferby_: yes | 17:19 |
oferby_ | can you send a link | 17:19 |
Swami | oferby_: i wanted to have a chat with you regarding the patch. | 17:19 |
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Sukhdev | Swami : glad you are here | 17:19 |
itamarofek | Actually, I think the code is the right fix as it do allow implement l3 on the vtep device later on. As I understand I simply allows any routing instance to work | 17:19 |
Swami | oferby_: The RFE currently does not have any blueprint associated. | 17:19 |
Sukhdev | Swami : do you have link to oferby's patch? | 17:19 |
Swami | oferby_: Yes I like your approach as well, since the one the we were proposing will mandate to have an additional agent and specific node to support this feature. | 17:20 |
Swami | oferby_: but before we go in this direction, I wanted to have some clarification on the patch. | 17:20 |
oferby_ | please. | 17:21 |
Swami | oferby_: can we have an offline chat after this meeting, so that we can be on the same page. | 17:21 |
oferby_ | sure. I will be happy to do that. | 17:21 |
Swami | oferby_: thanks | 17:21 |
oferby_ | sukhdev, going back to where we were | 17:22 |
Sukhdev | Swami oferby : feel free to pull me in that discussion - if we can reach a consensus, we can move forward with this patch | 17:22 |
Swami | Sukhdev: thanks will ping you if get you an agreement. | 17:22 |
Sukhdev | Swami : thanks | 17:22 |
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Sukhdev | oferby : back to you - please go on | 17:23 |
oferby_ | I need to know if everyone's intention is to add what we would like to see in | 17:23 |
oferby_ | and I need to understand if there is a way to speed things up | 17:23 |
Sukhdev | oferby : yes and yes | 17:24 |
oferby_ | we really would like to use the L2GW for our needs | 17:24 |
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Sukhdev | oferby : however, we need to address 2) which I mentioned above | 17:24 |
oferby_ | but the current development is not aligned with the speed I expect from the project | 17:25 |
Sukhdev | oferby : do you want your new feature on top of something which may not be rock solid | 17:25 |
oferby_ | again. I agree that we MUST fix bugs first | 17:25 |
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Sukhdev | oferby : then we are in violent agreement | 17:26 |
oferby_ | but we need to fix the critical / Major and do the minor while adding new features | 17:26 |
Sukhdev | oferby : agreed - | 17:26 |
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Sukhdev | here is what is needed to make the code base solid - | 17:27 |
itamarofek | oferby: correct me if I'm wrong, currently only legacy is working, the patch allows for the DVR to work as well | 17:27 |
Sukhdev | We need a way to test things so that when we add new patches, we ensure that we do not break the code base | 17:27 |
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Sukhdev | oferby : for instance see this patch - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202495/ | 17:29 |
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Sukhdev | this is held up because of ovs lib - | 17:29 |
Sukhdev | itamarofek : I think DVR patch is not an issue - once we get it propertly reviewed, I will approve it for merge | 17:31 |
itamarofek | Great ! | 17:31 |
Sukhdev | oferby: so, coming back to what we were discussing. I am trying to get some volunteers who will help solidify the code base | 17:32 |
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Sukhdev | oferby : I want to add some more core's to this project so that we can beef it up to address the speed issue that you mentioned earlier | 17:33 |
Sukhdev | hence, we need more contributors | 17:33 |
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Sukhdev | oferby : you still here? | 17:34 |
oferby_ | yes | 17:34 |
oferby_ | I'm not sure how can I help | 17:34 |
Sukhdev | oferby : work with me - we can help each other | 17:34 |
Sukhdev | oferby : I considered making you core for this project - but, your interest is only in adding new features - which is not bad | 17:35 |
oferby_ | this is totally not the case | 17:35 |
Sukhdev | but, we need cores who can jump in review the code - to speed things up (as you say) | 17:36 |
oferby_ | I'm more than willing to fix bugs if we have them | 17:36 |
Sukhdev | and help solidify the base | 17:36 |
Sukhdev | oferby : so, work with me - I am in discussion with couple of other guys who want to help | 17:36 |
oferby_ | I can ask more people to be reviewers | 17:37 |
itamarofek | Sukhdev: I want to give a hand too. | 17:37 |
oferby_ | but I'm not sure they will add code | 17:37 |
Sukhdev | once they get on board, we can add new cores to this project and move things much faster - the way we used to | 17:37 |
itamarofek | with oferby acceptence | 17:37 |
Sukhdev | itamarofek : perfect | 17:37 |
oferby_ | obviously | 17:37 |
Sukhdev | oferby: I would love to see you a core for this project so that you and I can move things along - but, in order to do so, we have to plan things right | 17:38 |
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oferby_ | I'm more than happy to do that. but we have to be able to communicate faster | 17:39 |
oferby_ | bi-weekly meeting will not do. | 17:39 |
Sukhdev | oferby : we can fix the communication issue | 17:39 |
Sukhdev | oferby : I am most of the time on IRC and email works best as well | 17:40 |
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Sukhdev | oferby: considering we are in differnet time zones - we can set time to ping each other on set times every other day | 17:41 |
Sukhdev | I do it all the times with others - | 17:41 |
oferby_ | sure. let me know what you need to move this forward | 17:41 |
oferby_ | from me. | 17:41 |
Sukhdev | oferby : we need a plan to begin with - from the top of my head, here is what we need | 17:42 |
Sukhdev | 1) A way to test things - to make sure anytime we push a new path, we did not break the basic functionality | 17:42 |
Sukhdev | 2) we need to switch to ovs lib - and get away from the hacks used in the code base to make things work | 17:43 |
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Sukhdev | 3) and put a plan of action to scrub the bugs and address them so that the code base is usable by everybody | 17:44 |
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oferby_ | Sukhdev, test coverage for the entire project will take a long time. we can't just put an effort there | 17:44 |
oferby_ | we have to have a way to add new features too hand to hand with new testing. | 17:45 |
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Sukhdev | oferby_ : agree - I am not looking for moving the mountains - as long as we have some basic tests | 17:45 |
oferby_ | I offer that a new feature HAVE to come in with unit test. | 17:45 |
oferby_ | eventually we will have full coverage. | 17:46 |
Sukhdev | right - | 17:46 |
fyeh | Hi, I'm new here. Apologies if this is off-topic. I need to provide VLAN networking for Ironic Baremetal nodes under Liberty+. Where can I find patch(es) that can provide communication between Ironic and Neutron? | 17:46 |
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Sukhdev | fyeh : you are talking to the right person, but, you are in the wrong meeting - | 17:47 |
Sukhdev | fyeh : ping me after this meeting and I will help you | 17:47 |
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fyeh | Sukhdev: Ok will do. Thanks! | 17:48 |
Sukhdev | oferby_ : So, I am not looking to move the mountains on day one - lets put our heads together come up with a solid plan and start to execute on it | 17:48 |
oferby_ | I agree. | 17:49 |
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Sukhdev | oferby_ : for instance, I have +2 on your patch, I need more reviewers to review it - | 17:50 |
oferby_ | which one? | 17:50 |
oferby_ | I can ask people to look at it. | 17:50 |
Sukhdev | the new API that you are proposing | 17:51 |
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oferby_ | I believe that there are few that added remarks which I responded promptly. | 17:52 |
Sukhdev | I mean I want cores to jump in to review as well - | 17:52 |
oferby_ | I see. I can ask other cores to look at it. | 17:52 |
Sukhdev | therefore, we need additional cores for this project - armax is very busy with PTL duties | 17:53 |
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oferby_ | again, I can have core people to review but not sure that they will add code in. | 17:54 |
Sukhdev | I am not looking at them to add code - I want them to review your proposal so that we can move forward with your patches | 17:55 |
oferby_ | I can have tht. | 17:55 |
oferby_ | that. | 17:55 |
Sukhdev | good | 17:56 |
Sukhdev | Also, going back to my original point, how will you ensure that everything works? | 17:56 |
Sukhdev | we have been relying on HP's CI for that | 17:56 |
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oferby_ | personally I run massive tests on every patch I put in | 17:57 |
oferby_ | we do not have internal CI, if that's what you mean. | 17:58 |
oferby_ | the current one does not test all the patches? | 17:58 |
Sukhdev | are those generic tests? | 17:58 |
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Sukhdev | can those tests be leveraged? | 17:59 |
oferby_ | I'm not sure I follow ... | 18:00 |
oferby_ | The patches I added were system tested, not just unit testing. | 18:01 |
Sukhdev | you said you run massive tests - | 18:01 |
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Sukhdev | are those tests that can be added to upstream code ? | 18:02 |
Sukhdev | I did not realize, we are out of time - | 18:02 |
oferby_ | ok | 18:02 |
Sukhdev | oferby_ : lets switch to neutron channel - need to clear this channel | 18:02 |
Sukhdev | thanks for attending everybody | 18:03 |
Sukhdev | bye | 18:03 |
Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 18:03 |
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oferby_ | bye | 18:03 |
openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 6 18:03:08 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:03 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_l2gw/2016/networking_l2gw.2016-06-06-17.02.html | 18:03 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_l2gw/2016/networking_l2gw.2016-06-06-17.02.txt | 18:03 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_l2gw/2016/networking_l2gw.2016-06-06-17.02.log.html | 18:03 |
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Sukhdev | oferby_ : you are not on neutron channel - can you hop on there ? | 18:04 |
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oferby_ | what is the channel name? | 18:04 |
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tonyb | #startmeeting stable | 21:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 6 21:00:53 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tonyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: stable)" | 21:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'stable' | 21:00 |
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tonyb | roll call | 21:01 |
mriedem | o/ | 21:01 |
tonyb | I'm sure there are lurkers sigmavirus24 jroll mtreinish etc | 21:02 |
jroll | >.> | 21:02 |
sigmavirus24 | woops, sorry | 21:02 |
sigmavirus24 | got distracted | 21:02 |
jroll | \o | 21:02 |
sigmavirus24 | o/ | 21:02 |
tonyb | #topic status | 21:02 |
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rockyg | o/ | 21:03 |
tonyb | To be frank I haven't been looking at the status there were a bunch of failures octavia designate glace zaqar | 21:03 |
mriedem | tonyb: yeah i rang up a few of those in the etherpad | 21:03 |
tonyb | at least designate was kilo only which mriedem fixed (and we;ll cover in release news) | 21:03 |
tonyb | mriedem: Thanks | 21:04 |
mriedem | zaqar and ceilometer are due to uncapped deps | 21:04 |
mriedem | people are looking at octavia i'm told in the ML | 21:04 |
mriedem | don't know about glnace | 21:04 |
tonyb | *sigh* okay | 21:04 |
mriedem | *glance | 21:04 |
mriedem | well, deps are capped in upper-constraints, but the unit test jobs aren't using constraints for those projects on stable/liberty | 21:05 |
tonyb | mriedem: okay I'll start with glance today and pick up what ever I can to day is a long day for me so I shoudl be able to chatch up | 21:05 |
tonyb | mriedem: Ah, that's a common pattern I think neutron, *aas have a formula to fix that | 21:05 |
tonyb | #topic action items | 21:06 |
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tonyb | The only one is drop kilo which we'll talk about in release news .... | 21:07 |
tonyb | #topic release news | 21:07 |
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tonyb | Kilo EOL | 21:07 |
tonyb | mriedem: dropped the periodic and bitrot jobs for kilo :) | 21:08 |
tonyb | There is a thread to work out exactly what needs to be EOL'd | 21:08 |
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mtreinish | tonyb: not really lurking. I just normally forget | 21:08 |
mtreinish | which I would have if you didn't ping me | 21:08 |
tonyb | so have it's everythign with a kilo branch *excpet* the OpenStackAnsible,packstack and Chef projects + murano-apps will stay open on kilo | 21:09 |
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tonyb | with the first 3 dropping support pretty soon but they need the kilo-eol tags in $projects first | 21:09 |
tonyb | I'm goign to do a bulk abandon on (my) Thursday and hand the complete list to infra on Friday | 21:10 |
tonyb | I have a script to help manage this for next time which is overkill given that it turns out to be nearly everything | 21:10 |
tonyb | I guess at some point we need to go through zuul/layout.yaml and remove kilo from the various "(dont')run this on kilo" patterns | 21:11 |
tonyb | anything else? | 21:12 |
mriedem | tonyb: i could do the project-config things | 21:12 |
tonyb | mriedem: that'd be great if you have time. | 21:12 |
tonyb | #action tonyb, mriedem drop project-config stuff | 21:13 |
tonyb | (worst action item *ever*) | 21:14 |
mriedem | rm -rf project-config | 21:14 |
mriedem | got it | 21:14 |
tonyb | Oh and I need to run over the list-unrekeased0-stable-stuff script and poke various PTLs | 21:14 |
tonyb | mriedem: \o/ | 21:14 |
mtreinish | mriedem: wfm, I don't think anyone would notice anyway | 21:15 |
tonyb | mriedem: what're your plans for nova* releases ? | 21:15 |
tonyb | mriedem: I've see you mention it but we haven't overlapped :( | 21:15 |
mriedem | oh yeah | 21:15 |
mriedem | was going to look at this early this week, which would be today, but got totally distracted | 21:16 |
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tonyb | mriedem: okay, I'm goign to assume "late" thsi week and try to work through the review queue and poke other cores for help as needed | 21:17 |
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mtreinish | mriedem: I think tomorrow still counts as early this week | 21:17 |
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mriedem | sure | 21:18 |
rockyg | mriedem, anything before your halfway point on your Wednesday counts as early in the week;-) | 21:18 |
tonyb | sigmavirus24: As the newest glance CPL I''ll ping you about glance stuff later this week, so look out | 21:18 |
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sigmavirus24 | cool | 21:18 |
tonyb | mriedem: Did you handle that with private emails to PTLs / CPLs ? | 21:18 |
tonyb | mriedem: and or pings on IRC? | 21:19 |
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* tonyb assumes that mriedem got distracted | 21:20 | |
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tonyb | #topic tagging | 21:20 |
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tonyb | the agenda says that there is a manila review but that merged in the last couple of days | 21:21 |
mriedem | handle what now? | 21:21 |
tonyb | Oh no it didn't I need to re-review that :( | 21:21 |
mriedem | bugging people about doing stable releases? | 21:22 |
tonyb | mriedem: poking the PTLs and CPLs about releaseing projects | 21:22 |
tonyb | mriedem: Yup | 21:22 |
mriedem | ttx did the first one, i don't remember actually sending any emails | 21:22 |
tonyb | mriedem: ok | 21:23 |
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tonyb | #topic stuck reviews | 21:24 |
*** openstack changes topic to "stuck reviews (Meeting topic: stable)" | 21:24 | |
tonyb | Anyone have anythign that isn't on the agenda? | 21:24 |
tonyb | that sounds like a "no" | 21:25 |
tonyb | #topic tooling / Open discussion | 21:25 |
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tonyb | stable: document the 'proactive' backporting workflow / https://review.openstack.org/#/c/322273/ | 21:25 |
tonyb | please review that ^^^ | 21:25 |
tonyb | Anthing for open discussion ? | 21:26 |
tonyb | or do y'all want 30mins back? | 21:26 |
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mriedem | i want that time | 21:27 |
tonyb | okay | 21:28 |
tonyb | anyone goign to stand in mriedem's way? | 21:28 |
tonyb | and earn his ire? | 21:28 |
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* rockyg scoots out of mriedem's way quickly | 21:29 | |
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tonyb | #endmeeting | 21:29 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:29 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 6 21:29:23 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:29 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-06-06-21.00.html | 21:29 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-06-06-21.00.txt | 21:29 |
tonyb | Thanks everyone | 21:29 |
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openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-06-06-21.00.log.html | 21:29 |
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