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| TravT | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 21 15:00:50 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is TravT. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack search)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search' | 15:00 |
| TravT | o/ | 15:01 |
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| lei-zh | o/ | 15:01 |
| lakshmiS_ | o/ | 15:01 |
| sjmc7 | o/ | 15:01 |
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| TravT | hiya everybody. | 15:01 |
| TravT | agenda for today | 15:02 |
| TravT | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda | 15:02 |
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| TravT | #topic Backport 0.2.1 | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Backport 0.2.1 (Meeting topic: openstack search)" | 15:02 | |
| TravT | I think we have all but on patch backported | 15:02 |
| TravT | that we should target for 0.2.1 | 15:02 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307504/ | 15:02 |
| TravT | it would be great if we could get through that one today | 15:03 |
| sjmc7 | note that that one does change the data model a bit | 15:03 |
| TravT | yeah, it leaves me a little nervous as .1 patch | 15:04 |
| sjmc7 | although i think it only changes the explicit model; under the hood, e-s will have been picking one option itself | 15:04 |
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| TravT | without this, we still have ES 2.0 issues, though | 15:06 |
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| sjmc7 | yep. i’ll look at the other open bug today | 15:06 |
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| TravT | i think we really should do it. | 15:06 |
| TravT | deployers lag behind pretty far at times in their upgrade cycle | 15:07 |
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| sjmc7 | yep. i’ve no problem backporting stuff given that because e-s is no longer in the ubuntu repos people will install it direct from elastic.co and so by default will get es 2 | 15:07 |
| TravT | ok. | 15:08 |
| lei-zh | does the patch make es fields a little different from api data | 15:08 |
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| sjmc7 | yeah, it does, lei-zh | 15:08 |
| sjmc7 | the short version of the problem is | 15:08 |
| sjmc7 | for a field like ‘security_groups' | 15:08 |
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| sjmc7 | nova’s API defines it as a dict [{“name”: “default”}] | 15:09 |
| lei-zh | so I guess it's better to have it in docs | 15:09 |
| sjmc7 | neutron ports as a flat string [“aaa-111-bbb”] | 15:09 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 15:09 |
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| sjmc7 | yeah, that’s a good idea. i don’t know in the general case how we decide what to do with fields like this | 15:10 |
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| TravT | if we had multiple index (resource group support) it could be solved with separate indexes. | 15:10 |
| sjmc7 | mmm, though i still don’t really like that as a solution | 15:11 |
| TravT | that is pretty heavy weight | 15:11 |
| sjmc7 | really the problem is that two fields named the same are not actually comparable | 15:11 |
| sjmc7 | “size” is another one; it means different things to cinder and glance | 15:12 |
| TravT | although size is just a storage thing, not a data structure thing | 15:12 |
| TravT | meaning, they are numeric in both cases | 15:13 |
| rosmaita | but does it make sense to just query on "size"? | 15:13 |
| sjmc7 | it’s the same problem | 15:13 |
| TravT | i see it as a little different | 15:13 |
| sjmc7 | right - a query size==1 makes sense in cinder, but not in glance | 15:13 |
| rosmaita | i mean a big image and a big volume are quite different | 15:13 |
| TravT | in size case, you have to know the context | 15:13 |
| sjmc7 | in the same way that security_group==default makes sense in nova but not neutron | 15:13 |
| lakshmiS_ | seems like we need our own qualifier in field names | 15:14 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, i dunno what the answer is. i think for now, we need to make it work with es2 but longer term decide what we intend when field names are the same | 15:15 |
| TravT | in size case, a UI displaying it doesn't really need to know the structural difference between API and SL index | 15:15 |
| TravT | in sec group case, this now introduces that issue | 15:15 |
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| sjmc7 | TravT: yep. the alternative is renaming the field in one or both plugins, or changing the structure for Ports | 15:16 |
| sjmc7 | i picked one but i’m fine with any of the 3 options | 15:16 |
| TravT | the only other thing i can think of doing to maintain API compatibility is to massage the data back into API format on the way out | 15:17 |
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| sjmc7 | yeah, that’s an option. | 15:18 |
| sjmc7 | i guess i could add that to this patch for now | 15:18 |
| TravT | it would keep backward compatibility for mitaka (stable) | 15:19 |
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| sjmc7 | ok, that’s reasonable | 15:19 |
| sjmc7 | i still want to discuss this more next week though | 15:19 |
| TravT | yeah, this is a good topic | 15:19 |
| TravT | ok, i vote for doing that for now to maintain rules of backwards compatibility. | 15:20 |
| TravT | with newton (should be 1.0), we can make a change if needed | 15:20 |
| sjmc7 | ok. sorry to derail things a bit | 15:20 |
| rosmaita | sounds reasonable | 15:20 |
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| TravT | any other bugs to discuss for 0.2.1? | 15:21 |
| sjmc7 | the other one tagged for es-2 | 15:21 |
| TravT | https://bugs.launchpad.net/searchlight/+bugs?field.tag=elasticsearch-2 | 15:21 |
| sjmc7 | umm.. the weird java error one reported as a ui problem | 15:21 |
| sjmc7 | 1570213 | 15:22 |
| sjmc7 | i will try to take a look today | 15:22 |
| TravT | ok | 15:22 |
| TravT | look like lei-zh picked up the other one | 15:22 |
| lei-zh | yes, I'll submit a patch tomorrow | 15:23 |
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| TravT | thanks lei-zh | 15:23 |
| TravT | only other thing is to write a release note for the changes. | 15:24 |
| TravT | i can do that once they land. | 15:24 |
| TravT | let's jump to summit discussion | 15:24 |
| TravT | #topic newton summit | 15:24 |
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| TravT | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/#day=2016-04-28&summit_types=2&tags=1728 | 15:25 |
| TravT | searchlight is tagged in all those sessions | 15:25 |
| lei-zh | I have a bad news : ( | 15:25 |
| TravT | lei-zh: oh? | 15:25 |
| lei-zh | just heard yuntong won't go to summit, I couldn't find others to talk in the session | 15:26 |
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| TravT | :( | 15:26 |
| sjmc7 | :( i think we understand what you’re trying to do pretty well with the publishing stuff | 15:26 |
| lei-zh | sorry for that, but things changed so quickly | 15:26 |
| TravT | it happens, we understand | 15:26 |
| TravT | so, that affects this agenda | 15:27 |
| TravT | https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/9381 | 15:27 |
| TravT | we still can talk priorities | 15:27 |
| TravT | we also could talk about data mapping in that discussion | 15:27 |
| TravT | and normalizing across services | 15:27 |
| sjmc7 | yep | 15:28 |
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| TravT | ok, i'll make that change... i'll leave pipeline as a topic 3, although I don't think we'll get to it... | 15:29 |
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| TravT | okay, | 15:30 |
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| TravT | this video was sent out | 15:30 |
| TravT | to help anybody attending the summit to understand how sessions should be run | 15:31 |
| TravT | Video for session etiquette: https://youtu.be/M4cDyM2s2bc | 15:31 |
| TravT | watch it later | 15:31 |
| TravT | it is only about 6 minutes | 15:31 |
| TravT | That's all I have for today. | 15:31 |
| TravT | anyother summit discussion needed? | 15:31 |
| sjmc7 | nope | 15:32 |
| TravT | okay. don't forget to register for the summit party | 15:32 |
| TravT | hopefully it isn't too late | 15:32 |
| TravT | #topic open discussion | 15:33 |
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| TravT | perhaps this has been answered, but any other topics for today? | 15:33 |
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| rosmaita | anyone have any allergies that could affect my choice of pie to bring? | 15:33 |
| sjmc7 | i have bad news on the pie front | 15:34 |
| * TravT awaits in stunned silence | 15:34 | |
| sjmc7 | i can’t eat dairy for a while, which rules out about 50% of my diet | 15:34 |
| rosmaita | what exactly counts as "dairy"? | 15:34 |
| TravT | luckily beer shouldn't be on that list | 15:34 |
| rosmaita | TravT: ++ | 15:35 |
| sjmc7 | things that come out of cows, goats or sheep | 15:35 |
| rosmaita | so eggs are ok? | 15:35 |
| sjmc7 | that’s my other 50%, so yes | 15:35 |
| rosmaita | well pie crust is mostly just flour and shortening | 15:36 |
| rosmaita | i will just make sure no milk-based filling | 15:36 |
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| sjmc7 | woo! | 15:36 |
| rosmaita | i wasn't going to bring ice cream, anyway | 15:36 |
| TravT | so your food pyramid which looked roughly like this shouldn't be too affected: http://www.gonis.net/kara/pictures/FDApyramid2.jpg | 15:36 |
| sjmc7 | :) | 15:37 |
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| TravT | also, we can all try to communicate via email next week to perhaps meetup for lunch or dinner or Brian's suggestion | 15:38 |
| rosmaita | so turns out that tuesday pm is the super-big party | 15:38 |
| rosmaita | but i am still planning to leave it early to go to Antone's | 15:38 |
| TravT | oh | 15:38 |
| rosmaita | yeah, kind of sucks, i got my days mixed up | 15:38 |
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| sjmc7 | we’ll find a day | 15:39 |
| TravT | yeah, let's just try to connect early next week. | 15:39 |
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| TravT | all right, well, let's cut out early today | 15:39 |
| TravT | thanks everybody! | 15:40 |
| sjmc7 | gonna go find some eggs! | 15:40 |
| sjmc7 | thanks, see some of you next week | 15:40 |
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| rosmaita | bye! | 15:40 |
| TravT | #endmeeting | 15:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:40 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 21 15:40:20 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-04-21-15.00.html | 15:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-04-21-15.00.txt | 15:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-04-21-15.00.log.html | 15:40 |
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| prometheanfire | odyssey4me: hi | 16:00 |
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| odyssey4me | #startmeeting OpenStack-Ansible | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 21 16:02:11 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is odyssey4me. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible' | 16:02 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Agenda & Rollcall | 16:02 |
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| prometheanfire | o/ | 16:02 |
| automagically | o/ | 16:02 |
| evrardjp | o? | 16:02 |
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| serverascode | o/ | 16:03 |
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| palendae | hi | 16:03 |
| mattt | o/ | 16:03 |
| andymccr | o/ | 16:03 |
| jmccrory_ | o/ | 16:03 |
| spotz | \o/ | 16:03 |
| cloudnull | o/ | 16:05 |
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| odyssey4me | #topic Review action items from last week | 16:06 |
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| odyssey4me | done: odyssey4me to submit patches to OpenStack-CI to activate release notes jobs for all IRR's | 16:06 |
| odyssey4me | release notes are now active in all IRR's | 16:06 |
| odyssey4me | done: odyssey4me to submit a patch to increase the job timeout for selected roles | 16:07 |
| odyssey4me | all role jobs now have a 60 min timeout | 16:07 |
| evrardjp | \o/ | 16:07 |
| odyssey4me | done: odyssey4me to submit a patch to infra to mirror the mariadb repo to help reduce role job execution times, and reduce the risk of failure | 16:07 |
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| odyssey4me | I've submitted https://review.openstack.org/307831 - infra has informed me that they want to get the CentOS mirrors done before that one, so this will take a while to go in. | 16:07 |
| palendae | Think it'll be within the Newton cycle? | 16:08 |
| odyssey4me | oh yes, very likely | 16:08 |
| palendae | Ok | 16:08 |
| odyssey4me | not yet done: odyssey4me to add review for the collection of IRR job logs | 16:08 |
| odyssey4me | I'll look into that after the summit. | 16:09 |
| odyssey4me | #action carried item: odyssey4me to add review for the collection of IRR job logs | 16:09 |
| odyssey4me | moving on | 16:09 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Release notes in IRRs | 16:09 |
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| odyssey4me | So FYI I realised yesterday that we have a very simple way of doing the release note consolidation that works very well with our current workflow. | 16:10 |
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| palendae | Yeah, your proposed solution yesterday sounded way cleaner | 16:10 |
| odyssey4me | Basically I'll update the sha updater to copy the release notes from the roles into the main repo - so the release notes will be included in the main repo at the right time. | 16:10 |
| odyssey4me | I'll be working on this later. | 16:11 |
| odyssey4me | So this will mean that release notes are implemented wherever the patch is, and they'll automagically be copied into the main repo once the role is updated. | 16:11 |
| odyssey4me | any concerns around that approach? | 16:11 |
| automagically | Sounds like a good plan | 16:12 |
| automagically | And simple | 16:12 |
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| stevelle | I like it | 16:12 |
| odyssey4me | #action odyssey4me to update source-branch-updater to copy release notes from the roles into the integrated build when updating the role SHA's | 16:12 |
| palendae | I'm in favor of it | 16:12 |
| palendae | Plugs into existing workflow and doesn't burden people with extra reviews | 16:13 |
| odyssey4me | :) yep | 16:13 |
| odyssey4me | happy to move on? | 16:13 |
| evrardjp | good | 16:13 |
| evrardjp | yes please go on | 16:13 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Release Planning and Decisions | 16:13 |
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| palendae | Yes | 16:13 |
| evrardjp | no one complained | 16:13 |
| odyssey4me | jumping forward quickly - we'll come back to summit chat | 16:13 |
| odyssey4me | we're schedule to request releases today for Mitaka, Liberty and Kilo | 16:14 |
| odyssey4me | For Kilo/Liberty are there any reviews we should wait for, or are we happy to tag? | 16:14 |
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| odyssey4me | kilo has nothing in review: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/branch:+kilo+project:%255Eopenstack/openstack-ansible.*+status:open | 16:15 |
| odyssey4me | nothing ready at least | 16:15 |
| cloudnull | liberty it'd be nice to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307802/ and potentially https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307826/ in | 16:15 |
| odyssey4me | liberty has nothing I think is urgent in review: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/branch:liberty+project:%255Eopenstack/openstack-ansible.*+status:open | 16:15 |
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| odyssey4me | it looks like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307802/ is near merging, assuming the current job gates successfully | 16:16 |
| odyssey4me | the other one hasn't had a successful gate yet, so that'll have to wait for the next tag I think | 16:16 |
| * prometheanfire is waiting for sha updates for a swift fix (remove empty ring something or other) | 16:17 | |
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| odyssey4me | I'm not entirely sure the tag will even be executed due to the summit - but I'll try and have it done today. | 16:18 |
| odyssey4me | The gate delays aren't going to help with that. | 16:18 |
| odyssey4me | But once I've submitted the request, it's fixed to a SHA, so the SHA bumps can happily continue. | 16:18 |
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| odyssey4me | #action odyssey4me to request releases for Kilo/Liberty | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | The Mitaka release of 13.0.1 will be the actual Mitaka release with final code - 13.0.0 was on RC code. | 16:19 |
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| odyssey4me | We have a few outstanding backports which I'd like to get in: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/branch:stable/mitaka+project:%255Eopenstack/openstack-ansible.*+status:open | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | the only really significant late inclusion is https://review.openstack.org/306328 - the others are trivial. | 16:20 |
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| odyssey4me | The ironic inclusion is purely opt-in, so it has no effect on anyone unless they actually configure it to be used in the environment. | 16:21 |
| odyssey4me | IT's a great way to get some experimental testing out there and bring feedback in to make it more production ready. | 16:21 |
| odyssey4me | Any objections to including it? | 16:21 |
| automagically | No objections here | 16:22 |
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| evrardjp | no objections if it's correctly tagged as experimental | 16:22 |
| evrardjp | in the doc | 16:22 |
| stevelle | +1 | 16:22 |
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| jmccrory | +1 | 16:22 |
| odyssey4me | yeah, the docs on it are very clear | 16:22 |
| evrardjp | good then | 16:22 |
| odyssey4me | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/306328/2/doc/source/install-guide/configure-ironic.rst | 16:22 |
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| cloudnull | +1 | 16:23 |
| d34dh0r53 | +1 | 16:23 |
| odyssey4me | If we can get another core vote on https://review.openstack.org/308941 that's the only thing holding me back from updating the ansible-role-requirements for the final 13.0.1 release. | 16:24 |
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| stevelle | queued, unless someone beats me to it | 16:25 |
| stevelle | also will look at backports | 16:25 |
| odyssey4me | thanks | 16:25 |
| odyssey4me | Any questions or comments before moving on? | 16:26 |
| evrardjp | none atm | 16:26 |
| odyssey4me | ok, moving on | 16:27 |
| mattt | none | 16:27 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Summit | 16:27 |
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| odyssey4me | I hope we're all ready and rearing to go. :) | 16:27 |
| odyssey4me | Any questions, concerns, etc? | 16:27 |
| spotz | Pack your rain gear! | 16:27 |
| automagically | Rain, rain, go away! | 16:28 |
| stevelle | Who has a boat? | 16:28 |
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| odyssey4me | I have nothing specific to say personally - I just want to make room for everyone else to raise anything. | 16:28 |
| odyssey4me | spotz has Boaty McBoatface? | 16:28 |
| evrardjp | raise an umbrella? | 16:28 |
| spotz | odyssey4me: doggy mcdogface?:) | 16:28 |
| odyssey4me | #info next week's Bug Triage & Community Meeting will not be happening due to the summit | 16:29 |
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| cloudnull | helmet would be good. for the hail. | 16:29 |
| odyssey4me | #action odyssey4me to send reminder about meeting cancellations next week | 16:29 |
| palendae | Is Austin as bad as San Antonio? I heard Austin was more on the edge of the rain | 16:29 |
| spotz | I live in the middle we didn't get hail | 16:29 |
| prometheanfire | checking forcast now | 16:30 |
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| prometheanfire | probably going to rain wed-fri | 16:30 |
| prometheanfire | and sunday | 16:30 |
| odyssey4me | what's the general temp like, preferably in degrees C | 16:31 |
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| spotz | odyssey4me: We've been in the upper 70s? | 16:31 |
| odyssey4me | eish, if that's in degrees C then we'll all melt | 16:31 |
| stevelle | upper 20s iirc | 16:31 |
| palendae | odyssey4me: This is America, no Celsius | 16:31 |
| odyssey4me | 70F is around 21C | 16:32 |
| palendae | Or Centigrade | 16:32 |
| odyssey4me | I can live with that. | 16:32 |
| * odyssey4me packs only a rain jacket | 16:32 | |
| palendae | Please pack pants too | 16:32 |
| odyssey4me | and slip slops of course :p | 16:32 |
| stevelle | not wellies? | 16:32 |
| stevelle | maybe even hip waders | 16:33 |
| prometheanfire | ya, you from the uk should be used to rain :P | 16:33 |
| odyssey4me | haha palendae | 16:33 |
| odyssey4me | not just rain - that's warm rain | 16:33 |
| * odyssey4me packs swimming trunks | 16:33 | |
| spotz | stevelle: I'm bringing my wellies:) | 16:33 |
| evrardjp | is there anything relevant for openstack-ansible in this conversation? | 16:34 |
| spotz | And my waterproof hiking shoes and my dock diving sandals and just in case it's nice my cowboy boots:) | 16:34 |
| * stevelle is wondering about fly fishing from the steps of the convention center | 16:34 | |
| spotz | evrardjp: bah!:) | 16:34 |
| odyssey4me | yeah ok evrardjp - killjoy :p | 16:34 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Open Discussion | 16:34 |
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| evrardjp | I want to leave on my boat now | 16:34 |
| odyssey4me | moving along, is there anything else anyone wants to raise? | 16:35 |
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| stevelle | Anyone want to take a look at https://review.openstack.org/304887, either cores or not I'm not particular. Looking for feedback on patch size and scope. Been working on it too long to be able to judge it fairly myself. It should finally pass gate now. | 16:35 |
| automagically | Just wanted to put this out there for review and contributions ahead of the IRR work session: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-newton-irr-cleanup | 16:36 |
| automagically | Please take a look and add your ideas ahead of Austin so we all come prepared to get stuff done | 16:36 |
| automagically | stevelle Happy to review it | 16:36 |
| palendae | Yeah, pre-work on the etherpads for summit will be helpful | 16:36 |
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| odyssey4me | stevelle starred to show up in the dashboard, assuming anyone is using the core reviewer dashboard - https://goo.gl/03qZPi | 16:38 |
| prometheanfire | well, since it's open... | 16:38 |
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| prometheanfire | I've been getting closer to getting the gentoo DIB stuff working enough for adding it to multi-os :D | 16:38 |
| prometheanfire | also, had another user (on gentoo) request it | 16:38 |
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| prometheanfire | p.healy@ieee.org | 16:39 |
| automagically | Great to know there is interest and progress. I know I’ve been hearing desires for CentOS support | 16:39 |
| prometheanfire | ya, I might try to convience one of them to help me, that'd be nice :P | 16:39 |
| odyssey4me | prometheanfire the initial work has just been around apt/yum abstraction, eg: https://review.openstack.org/304209 | 16:40 |
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| odyssey4me | there are still opportunities to jump in and do patches in that pattern for all the roles | 16:40 |
| prometheanfire | odyssey4me: ya, that's the plan | 16:40 |
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| odyssey4me | it's easy to do them, and all we need passing right now for that work is trusty in the gate | 16:41 |
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| prometheanfire | I'm waiting on reviews to bindep and project-config now | 16:41 |
| prometheanfire | that seems to take forever | 16:41 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull has got the container image prep done in https://review.openstack.org/307856 which I encourage everyone to check out and provide feedback | 16:42 |
| odyssey4me | it's done for CentOS7, Ubuntu Xenial and Trusty | 16:42 |
| prometheanfire | nice | 16:43 |
| odyssey4me | That will enable serious multi-OS implementation work in the other roles because the role tests use containers | 16:43 |
| prometheanfire | can start doing multi-os for containers | 16:43 |
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| cloudnull | prometheanfire: that may be of particular interest to you | 16:43 |
| cloudnull | also note, that these images are currently supported | 16:44 |
| cloudnull | https://images.linuxcontainers.org/ | 16:44 |
| odyssey4me | so yeah - please review that carefully and test it yourself if possible... it's going to shape the multi-OS support work considerably | 16:44 |
| cloudnull | by the process , all that would be needed is a var file for the OS distro / release | 16:44 |
| prometheanfire | cloudnull: yep, which is why that makes me happy | 16:44 |
| prometheanfire | alpine would be neat, given musl | 16:45 |
| cloudnull | it'd be neat. but in the after now. :) | 16:45 |
| prometheanfire | when will then be now? | 16:45 |
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| cloudnull | soon | 16:46 |
| automagically | now < soon < then | 16:47 |
| odyssey4me | well, I think we're in a good place for Mitaka | 16:47 |
| prometheanfire | +1 | 16:47 |
| andymccr | just now. | 16:47 |
| odyssey4me | It feels like our most mature release yet, especially from a docs standpoint. We're positioned well to jump into some creative work in Newton, so I'm excited about. | 16:47 |
| odyssey4me | *which | 16:48 |
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| prometheanfire | so you have that going for you | 16:48 |
| prometheanfire | which is nice | 16:48 |
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| odyssey4me | Well, I think we're all done here - happy to call i tdone. | 16:48 |
| automagically | Yeah, Mitaka is feeling pretty awesome | 16:48 |
| odyssey4me | Thank you all for joining - looking forward to seeing you at the summit for those who're making it. | 16:49 |
| prometheanfire | cya | 16:49 |
| evrardjp | bye | 16:49 |
| evrardjp | enjoy! | 16:49 |
| cloudnull | cheers | 16:49 |
| odyssey4me | oh - one thing I would like to suggest is that we do turn our efforts to trying upgrades and making that work as early in the cycle as possible | 16:50 |
| odyssey4me | the sooner we get it out the way, the sooner we can move on to the new and shiny things | 16:50 |
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| evrardjp | like bugs! | 16:50 |
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| odyssey4me | we'll talk more about the schedule and focal points for each milestone at the summit | 16:50 |
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| stevelle | +1 upgrades before most new feature work | 16:51 |
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| odyssey4me | ideally I'd like us to have Liberty->Mitaka upgrades done by milestone one and Mitaka->Newton upgrade work to happen between Milestone-3 and the first RC of Newton | 16:52 |
| odyssey4me | so when we release Newton, it's with an upgrade capability already - maybe not a battle tested, super awesome zero down time upgrade... but something that executes to completion at least | 16:53 |
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| cloudnull | hard part w/ upgrades is that historically they've been broken for some projects up until they release (sometimes even after). so working on and requiring them for a pre-released cycle may be difficult. | 16:56 |
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| cloudnull | it'd be nice to have as something being worked on , and maybe we should start a periodic job that posts to the openstack-qa list | 16:56 |
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| odyssey4me | yeah, I have some thoughts on how we can make it work for us instead of being something that drags us down - we can figure it out at the summit or within the cycle | 16:57 |
| odyssey4me | I might just push up a patch tomorrow if I have time to get the reviews rolling. :) | 16:58 |
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| odyssey4me | but yeah, if our orgs can put a little resourcing into doing automated upgrade tests regularly and then we can use that feedback to make the process more robust, then that'll be great | 16:59 |
| odyssey4me | also, the earlier we work on upgrades and feedback to the service teams, the more reliable the end result will be by their release and ours | 16:59 |
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| odyssey4me | anyway - just something to think about while travelling :) | 16:59 |
| odyssey4me | we're done for time - thanks all for attending! | 16:59 |
| odyssey4me | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 21 17:00:02 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-04-21-16.02.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-04-21-16.02.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-04-21-16.02.log.html | 17:00 |
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| cathy_ | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 21 17:00:32 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cathy_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining' | 17:00 |
| cathy_ | hi everyone | 17:00 |
| vikram | hi | 17:00 |
| iyamahat | hello | 17:00 |
| pcarver_ | hi | 17:00 |
| scsnow | hi | 17:00 |
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| LouisF | hi | 17:01 |
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| cathy_ | Ok, let's start | 17:01 |
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| cathy_ | #topic f2f meeting time and place | 17:02 |
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| cathy_ | John suggested we meet f2f at the summit | 17:02 |
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| georgewang | hi | 17:03 |
| cathy_ | I am thinking about we have a lunch meet on Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday. Any suggestion? | 17:03 |
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| LouisF | is there an etherpad for the meeting? | 17:04 |
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| pcarver_ | I'm booked for lunch Monday, but definitely would like to meet | 17:04 |
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| cathy_ | pcarver_: sridhar_ram scsnow vikram iyamahat and others : any day not good for you? | 17:04 |
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| vikram | i won't be there ;( | 17:05 |
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| iyamahat | I prefer wednesday. But Tuesday may work | 17:05 |
| sridhar_ram | cathy_: as of now, Tuesday seems better | 17:05 |
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| cathy_ | Ok, let's do it on Tuesday then. | 17:06 |
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| cathy_ | I will find a room and let you know | 17:07 |
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| cathy_ | #topic Maintain the CI seriously and ensure the code in the repo pass all the basic static checks (ownership) | 17:08 |
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| vishnoianil | cathy_, Tuesday is better for me | 17:08 |
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| cathy_ | Vikram suggested this and I think this is a great suggestion to maintain our code quality going forward | 17:08 |
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| cathy_ | vishnoianil: great, we will meet on Tuesday. I will find a room and let everyone know the room | 17:09 |
| vikram | cathy_: I can observer several patches are waiting to be merged for log time | 17:09 |
| vikram | *long | 17:09 |
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| vishnoianil | cathy_, great thanks | 17:10 |
| cathy_ | vikram: yes, we will get to that in the next topic | 17:10 |
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| vikram | cathy_: ok | 17:10 |
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| cathy_ | so we need an owner for maintaining the CI | 17:10 |
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| cathy_ | who would like to take that ownership? | 17:11 |
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| cathy_ | vikram: do you have someone in mind for the ownership? | 17:11 |
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| pcarver | Is this CI distinct from the infra maintained part? | 17:11 |
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| cathy_ | Yes, I think it should include networking-sfc tests | 17:12 |
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| vikram | cathy_: how about mohankumar? | 17:13 |
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| cathy_ | vikram: is he on line? | 17:13 |
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| pcarver | I know there are configs in project-config Git repo that control Gerrit and Jenkins, but is that what you're talking about or are you talking about ensuring that individual networking-sfc changes pass tests? | 17:13 |
| vikram | cathy_: I can't find him | 17:13 |
| cathy_ | vikram: could you talk with him offline on taking this ownership? | 17:13 |
| vikram | pcarver: I believe individuals ensuring the tests | 17:13 |
| vikram | cathy_: sure | 17:14 |
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| vikram | pcarver: Sometime, global changes impact test and static checks | 17:14 |
| pcarver | vikram: in that case we should make sure all committers know how to run tests pre-commit | 17:14 |
| vikram | pcarver: e.g. i118n changes | 17:14 |
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| pcarver | and if the documentation isn't clear we should seek help from other teams | 17:14 |
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| pcarver | I mean the non-networking-sfc documentation that talks about how to run tox and so forth | 17:15 |
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| cathy_ | pcarver: good point. I think we need to post instructions on how to run the tests pre-commit for each patch | 17:15 |
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| pcarver | basically, it should be possible for a committer to locally run all the tests that the gate runs | 17:15 |
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| pcarver | They shouldn't have to push a patch to Gerrit in order to see the test failures | 17:15 |
| pcarver | but it's possible that the documentation doesn't spell it out clearly enough, or that people don't know where to look for the documentation | 17:16 |
| vikram | pcarver: +1, My concern here is although we ensure green CI before we approve but then how the failures still happens | 17:16 |
| pcarver | The Neutron devrefs are a good place to start, but I couldn't swear that there aren't gaps | 17:16 |
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| pcarver | Maybe we don't have the gate pipelines configured quite correctly? | 17:17 |
| cathy_ | pcarver: yes, now that more features and patches will be added and merged, gating test is important. | 17:17 |
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| pcarver | I'm not sure. I learned what little I know about Gerrit and Jenkins by looking at other project entries in the project-config repo. I certainly haven't read the Gerrit/Jenkins docs beyond specific Google search results for specific things | 17:18 |
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| cathy_ | pcarver: I think besides the gating tests, we also need to make sure each merged patch does not break the end-to-end service chain testing | 17:20 |
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| pcarver | cathy_: well ideally that's what the test are supposed to guarantee | 17:20 |
| pcarver | but we may need to work on getting the tests configured correctly | 17:20 |
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| cathy_ | we are setting up a test bed for end-to-end testing of the service chain and we are working on automating all the test scripts. | 17:20 |
| pcarver | and ensuring that all patches include sufficient test code | 17:20 |
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| pcarver | cathy_: by test bed, do you mean Huawei contributing hardware? | 17:21 |
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| pcarver | If so, it would be worth reaching out to the infra team to gain an understanding of the tooling | 17:22 |
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| cathy_ | Ok, so three actions: 1. check to make sure the tests are configured properly . 2. post instructions on how to run the tests pre-commit for each patch 3. setting up end-to-end test beds and automating all the test scripts | 17:22 |
| pcarver | Given how Neutron third party CI used to work, there are people who have experience with that sort of thing | 17:23 |
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| cathy_ | pcarver: yes, Huawei can contribute the hardware. We are working on automating the test scripts since we do not want to block a patch because of a bug in the test scripts. We have been working on this for some time and are still testing the "test scripts". | 17:24 |
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| cathy_ | pcarver: do you have contact for people who have such experience? | 17:25 |
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| pcarver | cathy_: I don't specifically remember names. I wasn't really involved in it. But Neutron used to mandate third party CI so there was documentation on how to set it up and people from various companies set up their own CI that voted on all Neutron changes. | 17:26 |
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| pcarver | Might be the sort of thing to ask in the hallway at the summit | 17:26 |
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| cathy_ | pcarver: OK, I will try to find those documents and reach out to people to leverage their experience of doing this. Thanks for the info | 17:27 |
| cathy_ | s3wong: Hi, are you going to the summit? | 17:27 |
| cathy_ | hi mohankumar_ | 17:27 |
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| pcarver | here's a document: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/policies/thirdparty-ci.html | 17:28 |
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| vikram | cathy_: I think he is offline | 17:28 |
| cathy_ | pcarver: thanks! | 17:29 |
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| s3wong | cathy_: hello | 17:30 |
| s3wong | cathy_: yes, I will be at the summit from Tues to Fri (morning) | 17:30 |
| s3wong | cathy_: I do plan to join you on the Wed lunch discussion | 17:30 |
| cathy_ | vikram: pcarver could you help with action item#1 check to make sure the tests are configured properly? I will take care of actions 2 and 3 | 17:30 |
| cathy_ | s3wong: cool | 17:30 |
| vikram | cathy_: ok | 17:31 |
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| cathy_ | #action vikram check to make sure the tests are configured properly | 17:31 |
| pcarver | cathy_: I can definitely try. I'm not an expert, but I did do some learn by doing with some of the Gerrit/Jenkins config. | 17:31 |
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| cathy_ | #action vikram pcarver check to make sure the tests are configured properly | 17:31 |
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| cathy_ | LouisF: could you take care of action #2 post instructions on how to run the tests pre-commit for each patch? | 17:32 |
| LouisF | cathy_: yes | 17:32 |
| cathy_ | LouisF: thanks! | 17:33 |
| cathy_ | #action LouisF post instructions on how to run the tests pre-commit for each patch | 17:33 |
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| cathy_ | #action Cathy take ownership of setting up end-to-end test beds and automating all the test scripts | 17:34 |
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| cathy_ | #topic Code Patches scrub | 17:36 |
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| iyamahat | Hi I'd like to raise https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300898/ | 17:37 |
| iyamahat | Now I and Anil are fine with it. | 17:37 |
| cathy_ | vikram: you mentioned some patches have been open for quite some time. would you like to post the links. we can go through those first | 17:37 |
| vikram | cathy_: give me a min | 17:37 |
| iyamahat | Is there anyone to give reviews on it? otherwise, I'm going to merge it. | 17:38 |
| vikram | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/279924/ | 17:38 |
| vikram | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282896/ | 17:38 |
| vikram | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285040/ | 17:38 |
| cathy_ | iyamahat: OK, I will go through it and review it. | 17:38 |
| vikram | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/305162/ | 17:38 |
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| cathy_ | LouisF: pcarver s3wong vikram I suggest that you take a final look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300898/ too | 17:39 |
| vikram | iyamahat: LGTM | 17:39 |
| vishnoianil | cathy_, that's the one that i posed as a blueprint to networking-sfc and you recently approved | 17:39 |
| vishnoianil | networking-sfc driver for odl | 17:39 |
| LouisF | iyamahat: i am ok with it | 17:39 |
| iyamahat | Can you please give +1 explicitly? | 17:40 |
| LouisF | iyamahat: will do | 17:40 |
| iyamahat | Anyway this evening, I'll merge it. | 17:40 |
| iyamahat | thanks! | 17:40 |
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| pcarver | I'm tight on time for reading code, but I'll read whichever of the above reviews are RST files by tomorrow | 17:40 |
| cathy_ | vishnoianil: yes I know. I would like to go through the spec once more and will give it +1 if looks OK. | 17:40 |
| vishnoianil | cathy_, sure, that would be great | 17:41 |
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| cathy_ | vishnoianil: you will be in the summit, right? | 17:41 |
| vishnoianil | cathy_, yes | 17:41 |
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| s3wong | cathy_: OK | 17:41 |
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| cathy_ | now let's go through the patches Vikram posted | 17:42 |
| cathy_ | iyamahat: could you give us some time until Friday? | 17:42 |
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| cathy_ | iyamahat: I think some people like pcarver and s3wong might be the first time to look through it | 17:43 |
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| s3wong | iyamahat: that's right | 17:44 |
| pcarver | iyamahat: yes, please give me until Friday if they're documentation reviews that I haven't seen. I'll also want to look into why I missed notification emails. | 17:45 |
| iyamahat | cathy_, that's fine. I'll wait. | 17:45 |
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| iyamahat | Then, I'll wait until openstack summit. | 17:45 |
| cathy_ | iyamahat: thanks! | 17:45 |
| iyamahat | We can also discuss on it there. | 17:45 |
| pcarver | I'm too swamped to read a large amount of code, but I try to at least read the specs when I see notification emails | 17:45 |
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| cathy_ | iyamahat: sure. Actually I will be very busy next two days writing my presentation slides:-) | 17:46 |
| cathy_ | vikram: I see jenkins -1 for patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285040/ | 17:46 |
| cathy_ | vikram: same for patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285040/ | 17:47 |
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| vikram | cathy_: We need first merge these | 17:47 |
| vikram | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302362/ | 17:48 |
| vikram | cathy_: We need first merge this : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302362/ | 17:48 |
| vikram | after that we can recheck these patches | 17:48 |
| vikram | everything will run fine | 17:48 |
| cathy_ | vikram: Ok, agree. I really need to merge this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302362/. Now I see this patch passes the test cleanly. | 17:49 |
| scsnow | vikram, actually this fixes only pep8 check | 17:50 |
| scsnow | py27 and py34 tests are fixed by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302324/ | 17:50 |
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| vikram | scsnow: there was a patch recently which fixed py27 and py34 | 17:50 |
| vikram | scsnow: that's why the jerkin is green for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302362/ | 17:50 |
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| cathy_ | vikram: do you mean we do not need patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302324/ since there is another patch fixing py27 and py34? | 17:52 |
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| scsnow | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302362/ has dependency on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302324/ that's why tests are green | 17:52 |
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| cathy_ | scsnow: I see jenkins -1 for patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302324/ ? | 17:53 |
| vikram | cathy_: I will clean this mess.. | 17:54 |
| scsnow | for pep8 issues related to i18n | 17:54 |
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| vikram | cathy_: Let me re-arrange these patches in proper dependency order | 17:54 |
| cathy_ | vikram: OK, thanks! | 17:55 |
| vikram | cathy_: Will publish by tomorrow .. | 17:55 |
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| cathy_ | #action Vikram will re-arrange these patches in proper dependency order by 4/22 to fix the test errors. Thanks Vikram! | 17:56 |
| scsnow | vikram, there is a cyclic dependency. that's why I cannot rebase https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302324 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302362/ | 17:56 |
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| vikram | scsnow: Let me have a look | 17:56 |
| scsnow | if I do so, jenkins won't pick up my patchset | 17:56 |
| vikram | scsnow: If required will break the patches | 17:56 |
| scsnow | vikram, ok | 17:56 |
| cathy_ | Now next topic which we might not be able to finish today since we have only 4 min | 17:57 |
| cathy_ | #topic Consistent Repository rule for networking-sfc related drivers | 17:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Consistent Repository rule for networking-sfc related drivers (Meeting topic: service_chaining)" | 17:57 | |
| LouisF | cathy_: no meeting next week? | 17:58 |
| cathy_ | I think we can discuss this and reach consensus during our Tuesday lunch time at the summit. We can probably follow how Neutron does it or how FWaaS project does it | 17:58 |
| cathy_ | LouisF: no, no meeting next week. Thanks for bringing this up! | 17:58 |
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| LouisF | can we have an etherpad for the networking-sfc meeting at the summit? | 17:58 |
| vikram | LoiusF: Nice Idea | 17:59 |
| cathy_ | Ok, time is up. Look forward to meeting you on Tuesday at the Summit. | 17:59 |
| scsnow | bye, have a safe trip | 17:59 |
| LouisF | bye | 17:59 |
| vikram | bye | 17:59 |
| fsunaval | bye | 17:59 |
| cathy_ | LouisF: yes, would you like to set it up? | 17:59 |
| vishnoianil | cathy_, are we planning to have a discussion about changing the time of the meeting ? | 17:59 |
| LouisF | cathy_: sure | 17:59 |
| vishnoianil | in this or next meeting | 18:00 |
| cathy_ | vishnoianil: oh, yes. But we can discuss that at the summit. no hurry for that | 18:00 |
| cathy_ | vishnoianil: remind me of new meeting time. I can not find a channel for Wednesday, so we might need to have the meeting on Friday. Let's sync up at the summit | 18:01 |
| cathy_ | bye everyone | 18:01 |
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| LouisF | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/networking-sfc-austin-summit-meeting | 18:01 |
| vishnoianil | cathy_, sure | 18:01 |
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| iyamahat | bye | 18:02 |
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| pcarver | cathy_: I think you forgot the endmeeting command | 18:05 |
| s3wong | #endmeeting | 18:06 |
| cathy_ | #endmeeting | 18:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:06 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 21 18:06:41 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:06 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-04-21-17.00.html | 18:06 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-04-21-17.00.txt | 18:06 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-04-21-17.00.log.html | 18:06 |
| cathy_ | pcarver: s3wong thanks! | 18:06 |
| s3wong | I vaguely remember someone told me after one hour, anyone can end meeting :-) | 18:07 |
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