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flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k | 13:59 |
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flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishekk, bunting | 13:59 |
flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat | 13:59 |
flaper87 | #startmeeting Glance | 13:59 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 24 13:59:48 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is flaper87. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:59 |
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openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:59 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 13:59 |
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bunting | o/ | 14:00 |
flaper87 | #topic agenda | 14:00 |
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flaper87 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:00 |
rosmaita | o/ | 14:00 |
dshakhray | o/ | 14:00 |
ninag | o/ | 14:00 |
jokke_ | o/ | 14:00 |
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flaper87 | ok, let's kick this off! | 14:01 |
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flaper87 | #topic Updates Glare | 14:01 |
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nikhil | o/ | 14:01 |
kairat | o/ | 14:01 |
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mfedosin | o/ | 14:01 |
flaper87 | mfedosin: floor is yours | 14:01 |
flaper87 | :) | 14:01 |
flaper87 | just in time | 14:01 |
mfedosin | so, what was done in last week... | 14:02 |
mfedosin | we created several patches | 14:02 |
mfedosin | 1. Policy support | 14:02 |
mfedosin | 2. Notification support | 14:02 |
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mfedosin | 3. DB layer for Glare | 14:03 |
mfedosin | 4. FaultWrapper middleware | 14:03 |
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mfedosin | 5. Functional tests for Image Artifact type | 14:03 |
mfedosin | it will be merged with the existing code today | 14:04 |
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flaper87 | What's going to be merged? | 14:04 |
mfedosin | also we had a long chat with app-catalog yesterday | 14:04 |
flaper87 | Is that changing the API? I thought that work depended on the spec being approved | 14:04 |
mfedosin | flaper87: these 5 patches with Glare All-in-one patch | 14:04 |
mfedosin | flaper87: don't worry :) | 14:05 |
flaper87 | mfedosin: can those be kept separate instead of having a single huge patch? | 14:05 |
mfedosin | flaper87: it's hard to develop if they're separated | 14:05 |
mfedosin | when it is ready we will split the code in small patches | 14:06 |
mfedosin | that are more confortable for review | 14:06 |
flaper87 | mfedosin: sounds good | 14:06 |
flaper87 | thanks | 14:06 |
flaper87 | :) | 14:06 |
flaper87 | anything else? | 14:06 |
mfedosin | but now we have all code in one place | 14:06 |
mfedosin | I think it's all we have | 14:06 |
flaper87 | cool! thanks a bunch | 14:07 |
flaper87 | #topic Updates Cross Project | 14:07 |
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flaper87 | nikhil: o/ | 14:07 |
nikhil | yo | 14:07 |
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nikhil | THe process of cleaning up stale specs has begun | 14:07 |
nikhil | So, if you'd liked a spec and need it seen in cross prj, please consider adding comments, updating patch etc. | 14:08 |
nikhil | all of them in openstack/cross-project-specs | 14:08 |
nikhil | besides that | 14:08 |
nikhil | I'd sent a email regarding quotas and asking for feedback last week | 14:09 |
nikhil | I've had a great number of responses and varied use cases | 14:09 |
nikhil | that sort of helps gauge the openstack community perspective and set a soft direction | 14:09 |
flaper87 | Is the convo leaning towards a separate service? | 14:09 |
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nikhil | no | 14:10 |
flaper87 | When I started contributing to Glance, that was the current state of mind (Boson) | 14:10 |
nikhil | it's leaning towards a library backed with DB model | 14:10 |
flaper87 | or something like that | 14:10 |
flaper87 | sounds good | 14:10 |
flaper87 | more maintainable and scalable | 14:10 |
nikhil | here's a good summary | 14:10 |
nikhil | http://www.openstack.org/blog/2016/03/openstack-developer-mailing-list-digest-20160318/ | 14:10 |
nikhil | (I think it directly links it) | 14:11 |
flaper87 | coolio! | 14:11 |
flaper87 | Anything else? | 14:11 |
nikhil | We'd have some more emails today | 14:11 |
nikhil | yes | 14:11 |
nikhil | one more thing | 14:11 |
nikhil | there's a email thread on "what are specifications?" | 14:11 |
nikhil | people should read and comment on it | 14:12 |
flaper87 | ++ | 14:12 |
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* nikhil done | 14:12 | |
flaper87 | Thanks for the heads up! Folks ^ | 14:12 |
flaper87 | okidoki! | 14:12 |
flaper87 | #topic Oslo CPL (Call for volunteers) | 14:12 |
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flaper87 | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/090092.html | 14:12 |
flaper87 | Just a heads up! There's a calls for volunteers for the Oslo CPL role | 14:13 |
flaper87 | If you feel like you have time to do it, please step up | 14:13 |
* sigmavirus24 apologizes for being late | 14:13 | |
flaper87 | It doesn't take much time other than raising issues to the oslo team when things happen | 14:13 |
flaper87 | or bringing oslo feedback to this meeting | 14:13 |
flaper87 | etc | 14:14 |
flaper87 | Attending Oslo meetings (On Monday) would be recommended | 14:14 |
flaper87 | that's it | 14:14 |
flaper87 | #topic Glance Newton Priorities | 14:14 |
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flaper87 | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/glance-specs/priorities/mitaka-priorities.html | 14:14 |
flaper87 | That's our list of Mitaka priorities | 14:15 |
flaper87 | I've created this etherpad for us to start drafting what newto nshould look like: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-newton-priorities | 14:15 |
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flaper87 | I'll put some content in it in a bit | 14:15 |
flaper87 | TBH, I believe the priorities shouldn't shift from what they were in Mitaka. Not much, at least. | 14:15 |
mfedosin | 1. Deprecate v1 | 14:16 |
flaper87 | Image import refactor and Nova v1 -> v2 should be kept as top prio | 14:16 |
rosmaita | ++ | 14:16 |
mclaren | +1 | 14:16 |
flaper87 | The rest should be "nice to have" | 14:16 |
jokke_ | ++ | 14:16 |
flaper87 | I'll keep an eye on that ehterpad but I'll start drafting the priorities spec for newton | 14:16 |
mfedosin | I also want to see Glare in prioritis | 14:16 |
flaper87 | so we can comment on it | 14:17 |
nikhil | yep | 14:17 |
nikhil | let's start working on etherpad | 14:17 |
nikhil | I think everyone undoubtedly agrees on Nova v1/v2 and import stuff | 14:17 |
flaper87 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-newton-priorities | 14:17 |
nikhil | the problems within the community are always beyond the obvious | 14:18 |
flaper87 | Just as a reminder for everyone: The priorities list should be kept small | 14:18 |
flaper87 | 2 to 3 items top that are critical for the project | 14:18 |
flaper87 | This doesn't mean other things can't be implemented | 14:18 |
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flaper87 | As I explained at the beginning of mitaka, other specs can (and likely will) be approved | 14:19 |
flaper87 | The important bit is that the work not considered priority mustn't conflict with the priorities of the cycle | 14:19 |
mfedosin | flaper87: agree - priorities are not nice-to-have things, they are essential | 14:19 |
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flaper87 | ok, anything else? Questions ? | 14:20 |
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flaper87 | #topic Glance Summit Sessions | 14:20 |
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flaper87 | ooooook | 14:20 |
jokke_ | lets continue this on the etherpad/spec review | 14:20 |
jokke_ | not the summit sessions obviously :P | 14:21 |
flaper87 | As promised, I think we should start discussing the summit sessions | 14:21 |
nikhil | jokke_: summit sessions too, I think :) | 14:21 |
flaper87 | I'll start some of these discussions and the upcoming PTL will likely take over | 14:21 |
flaper87 | #info PTL voting closes today at 23:59 UTC | 14:21 |
flaper87 | The reason I believe we should start discussing some of these topics here is that, apparently, no one is paying much attention to the etherpad and some topics need some clarifications | 14:22 |
flaper87 | etherpad is a terrible messaging tool | 14:22 |
flaper87 | So, I'll try to go in order (unless people have a better suggestion) | 14:22 |
jokke_ | should we start tracking summit session proposals in the specs-repo as well? | 14:23 |
flaper87 | please no | 14:23 |
flaper87 | hahahaha | 14:23 |
jokke_ | :P | 14:23 |
jokke_ | it would get us rid of the etherpad comms issues | 14:23 |
nikhil | flaper87: surely, go ahead | 14:23 |
flaper87 | Proposal #3 Title: Glare v1 API | 14:23 |
rosmaita | probably should encourage specs for the ones that attract some interest | 14:23 |
flaper87 | (I'm skipping the ones that have a description and folks have chimed in) | 14:23 |
flaper87 | mfedosin: what do you want to talk about in this session? | 14:24 |
flaper87 | is it going to be a demo? | 14:24 |
flaper87 | do you plan to discuss the new API? | 14:24 |
mfedosin | sure | 14:24 |
jokke_ | flaper87: mind to drop the EP link again | 14:24 |
flaper87 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-glance-summit-planning | 14:24 |
flaper87 | jokke_: ^ | 14:24 |
flaper87 | mfedosin: it'd be interesting to have a description written on the etherpad | 14:24 |
mfedosin | will be doen | 14:25 |
mfedosin | sorry :) | 14:25 |
flaper87 | ok | 14:25 |
flaper87 | Proposal #4 Title: Deprecating v1 API | 14:25 |
flaper87 | mfedosin: ditto. Is this about Nova v1->v2? | 14:25 |
flaper87 | or is it literally about deprecating v1 ? | 14:25 |
flaper87 | A description and a spec would be awesome :D | 14:26 |
flaper87 | seems that even without description we all want it | 14:26 |
flaper87 | hahahaha | 14:26 |
* jokke_ hopes the later | 14:26 | |
mfedosin | ++ | 14:26 |
flaper87 | jokke_: yeah! | 14:26 |
flaper87 | mfedosin: same for the compatibility layer | 14:26 |
mfedosin | I wanted it to be about v2 adoption in Nova | 14:26 |
flaper87 | mfedosin: sounds good! | 14:27 |
flaper87 | We can use that as a shared session with folks from Nova | 14:27 |
mfedosin | and it will be great | 14:27 |
flaper87 | If so, we need to decided asap and let Nova folks know | 14:27 |
flaper87 | so we can schedule things accordingly | 14:27 |
mfedosin | in that case we can combine deprecation of v1 and compat layer | 14:27 |
mfedosin | in on session | 14:27 |
flaper87 | ++ | 14:27 |
flaper87 | Sounds good! Mind updating the etherpad ? | 14:28 |
* flaper87 thinks this discussion has been useful already | 14:28 | |
flaper87 | :D | 14:28 |
flaper87 | Proposal #8 Glance tasks - present, future and the requirements. | 14:28 |
flaper87 | nikhil: was that you? | 14:28 |
mfedosin | кшпре фаеук ьууештп | 14:28 |
nikhil | yep | 14:28 |
mfedosin | right after the meeting | 14:28 |
flaper87 | What exactly is it going to be about? | 14:28 |
flaper87 | Wondering since we've marked the task API as admin only already | 14:29 |
nikhil | I can update the etherpad too | 14:29 |
flaper87 | and we've planned to deprecate it in Newton | 14:29 |
nikhil | The story around what's out there and where it's heading isn't clear to me | 14:29 |
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flaper87 | I guess my question is: What do we want to talk about as far as the future of this API goes? | 14:29 |
flaper87 | ok | 14:29 |
nikhil | The last feedback was | 14:29 |
nikhil | we can't get rid of the HTTP APIs | 14:29 |
nikhil | and we've this public API sitting with some clouds exposing it | 14:30 |
flaper87 | Is that something that we could perhaps clarify during the meetup session or even during the Glance meeting? | 14:30 |
flaper87 | the TL;DR is: We can deprecate APIs, we're not removing them from the code base, though. | 14:30 |
flaper87 | We can make it admin only, mark it as deprecated and advice not to use it ever again | 14:30 |
flaper87 | Plus, we can stop supporting it | 14:30 |
flaper87 | anyway | 14:31 |
jokke_ | that support part is bit strong statement | 14:31 |
nikhil | That's the part is bit confusing | 14:31 |
nikhil | we can either make it admin only or deprecate it | 14:31 |
flaper87 | Sure, let's put it as a topic for the next meeting | 14:31 |
flaper87 | sounds good? | 14:31 |
nikhil | but admin only is a soft contraint | 14:31 |
jokke_ | ++ | 14:31 |
nikhil | constraint* | 14:32 |
flaper87 | Just to make sure we discuss it thoroughly and then we can decided if a session is worth it | 14:32 |
jokke_ | that should be pretty clear based on the discussions and decisions made in Tokyo + after | 14:32 |
nikhil | flaper87: sounds good | 14:32 |
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flaper87 | Proposal #9 Glance and Glare image sharing, Glance community images | 14:33 |
flaper87 | Is that something that will have an impact on the import refactor? | 14:33 |
rosmaita | don't think so | 14:34 |
mfedosin | I want to come and discuss it | 14:34 |
mclaren | Did we hear anything more from Symantec about this? | 14:34 |
rosmaita | no | 14:34 |
mfedosin | I have no final decision on community sharing | 14:34 |
mclaren | They did send a mail to the list a while back. | 14:35 |
flaper87 | mmh, who proposed it? | 14:35 |
flaper87 | rosmaita: u ? | 14:35 |
nikhil | me | 14:35 |
flaper87 | a-ha! | 14:35 |
flaper87 | gotcha | 14:35 |
rosmaita | i added the descriptioin, though | 14:35 |
nikhil | We need to clear the air on that | 14:35 |
nikhil | there are some discussions around sharing in glare too | 14:35 |
nikhil | and community stuff has been almost implemented | 14:35 |
rosmaita | (my interest is making sure the "old" work on this isn't wasted!) | 14:35 |
nikhil | rosmaita: +! | 14:35 |
nikhil | +1 | 14:35 |
nikhil | :D | 14:36 |
flaper87 | Understood! My worry is that we might endup using the summit to clear the air on several topics that won't be worked on during the cycle, hence all these questions | 14:36 |
nikhil | flaper87: no, it's good to have all the questions out there | 14:36 |
flaper87 | Trying to make sure we use the slots for things that are actually going to be worked on | 14:36 |
nikhil | that was my motive to add the topics! | 14:36 |
mclaren | Symantec spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271019/ | 14:36 |
rosmaita | flaper87: understood, just floating some proposals to get feedback | 14:37 |
nikhil | let's make sure we use the summit topics to ensure we all are on same page on all the things | 14:37 |
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flaper87 | I noticed mclaren put the Image Import REfactor | 14:38 |
flaper87 | I've ocmmented on the etherpad (Proposal #16) | 14:38 |
flaper87 | I'd really advice not having a session on it! | 14:38 |
mclaren | I think if we set some ground rules it could be useful | 14:38 |
flaper87 | As I've mentioned before, I'm sure we'll end up discussing the spec from scratch, coming up with a whole new proposal and then we'll be back to where we were before Mitaka | 14:39 |
rosmaita | mclaren: thanks for the link, i somehow completely missed that spec | 14:39 |
flaper87 | we've set ground rules in the past | 14:39 |
flaper87 | That's why I'm skeptical | 14:39 |
flaper87 | ;) | 14:39 |
jokke_ | that might be sending a) wrong message about where we are on that and b) open can of worms we don't want to have all over the place ;) | 14:39 |
nikhil | I'm with mclaren on this one | 14:39 |
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rosmaita | i think we should devote a 2 hour session during the Friday workday | 14:40 |
nikhil | it's worth taking the risk than loosing another cycle in noop | 14:40 |
rosmaita | an informal session | 14:40 |
mclaren | nikhil: +1 | 14:40 |
flaper87 | rosmaita: I mentioned that in my comment on the etherpad. | 14:40 |
flaper87 | Well, it's not like we have not taken the risk in the past 6 months | 14:40 |
rosmaita | flaper87: yeah, just re-emphasizing it | 14:40 |
flaper87 | That's my point | 14:40 |
flaper87 | If there are things to change in the spec, we can do that in the spec | 14:41 |
flaper87 | Ok, let me ask this: | 14:41 |
flaper87 | What would be the topics that are going to be discussed during that session? | 14:41 |
mclaren | plan of action, corner cases we need to consider etc | 14:42 |
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flaper87 | What's the expected output? | 14:42 |
nikhil | for me it's mostly whiteboarding and discussing the challenges & architecture | 14:42 |
flaper87 | nikhil: that's what was done in Tokyo and over the last 6 months, FWIW | 14:42 |
flaper87 | mclaren: the plan of action is, partly, laid down on the spec already | 14:42 |
flaper87 | IF we want to discuss corner cases, we need to list them and keep the discussion on those | 14:43 |
nikhil | flaper87: my chat with few folks in glance community made me realize that there are still unresolved questions on import refactor | 14:43 |
nikhil | same with it's architecture | 14:43 |
flaper87 | you mean unresolved questions that haven't been brought up? | 14:44 |
flaper87 | There are some that we've discussed over the spec | 14:44 |
nikhil | you | 14:44 |
nikhil | :) | 14:44 |
nikhil | sorry | 14:44 |
nikhil | you're asking me to open a can of worms now! :) | 14:44 |
flaper87 | No, I'm asking you to bring those up in the spec or ask the folks that have open questions to do so | 14:45 |
nikhil | sure | 14:45 |
nikhil | TBH, not everyone has read the spec completely (and all etherpads relating to it) | 14:45 |
rosmaita | by the way, i have a new patch up about the "message" element: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296167/ | 14:45 |
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flaper87 | because we've spent more than 8 months asking these questions and it's a bit annoying to know that now that we almost consider this spec as "almost done" there are still fundamental questions around | 14:45 |
nikhil | yes, thanks rosmaita | 14:45 |
nikhil | I saw that it looks great | 14:45 |
jokke_ | rosmaita: saw it and posted one comment. Thanks :) | 14:46 |
flaper87 | So, again, my point is: | 14:46 |
flaper87 | s/point/question/ | 14:46 |
flaper87 | What exactly do we want to discuss there? | 14:46 |
mclaren | Even the exercise of walking through what we have and collectively looking for holes would be useful. | 14:46 |
flaper87 | What's the output we expect? | 14:46 |
nikhil | aha moment! :P | 14:46 |
jokke_ | can we get those details to the session proposal and continue from there (We're running out of time) | 14:46 |
flaper87 | jokke_: +1 | 14:47 |
mclaren | Sure, I'll try to add something. | 14:47 |
flaper87 | mclaren: mind adding the expected output and specific topics to the session proposal? | 14:47 |
flaper87 | cheers! | 14:47 |
jokke_ | :) | 14:47 |
flaper87 | :D | 14:47 |
flaper87 | Proposal #15 Glance rolling upgrades | 14:48 |
flaper87 | rosmaita: was that you? | 14:48 |
rosmaita | yes | 14:48 |
flaper87 | I'm curious to know if you've given this a try | 14:48 |
rosmaita | not me personally | 14:48 |
flaper87 | I think it's an important topic (hope others think so too) | 14:48 |
mclaren | I do | 14:48 |
rosmaita | they have it almost done in Nova, and that's way more complicated than glance | 14:48 |
flaper87 | It'd be interesting to gather feedback on the topic and perhaps run some tests | 14:48 |
flaper87 | mclaren: w00h00000 | 14:49 |
flaper87 | mclaren: wait, was that re-rolling upgrades ? | 14:49 |
flaper87 | :D | 14:49 |
mclaren | (I was happy to see Abhishek's mail) | 14:49 |
mclaren | pff | 14:49 |
flaper87 | Right, I was under the impression that Glance is not really far from supporting r-upgrades | 14:49 |
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flaper87 | it's not like some work has been done there but it doesn't have an overly complicated architecture | 14:50 |
flaper87 | I guess there are no comments | 14:51 |
flaper87 | or my internet connection dropped | 14:51 |
flaper87 | Anyway, it'd be cool to have some feedback on that | 14:51 |
flaper87 | !ping | 14:51 |
openstack | pong | 14:51 |
flaper87 | yay1 | 14:51 |
flaper87 | ok | 14:51 |
flaper87 | #topic Open Discussion | 14:52 |
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jokke_ | I have not tried nor even looked closely into it so can't say | 14:52 |
flaper87 | remember PTL elections close today | 14:52 |
flaper87 | Vote if you haven't :) | 14:52 |
* jokke_ is always few seconds late before topic change :P | 14:52 | |
rosmaita | did we skip some session proposals, or did my connection drop? | 14:52 |
flaper87 | we skipped some! | 14:53 |
jokke_ | rosmaita: flaper87 just went through the very empty ones | 14:53 |
flaper87 | There are too many for a single meeting | 14:53 |
flaper87 | :D | 14:53 |
rosmaita | ok, just checking | 14:53 |
rosmaita | :) | 14:53 |
flaper87 | We can go through more heated ones next week if there are questions there | 14:53 |
* jokke_ likes the fact that we have way too many sessions proposals this time | 14:53 | |
flaper87 | yes! | 14:53 |
* flaper87 loves that | 14:54 | |
nikhil | jokke_: you do! o// | 14:54 |
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flaper87 | That's why I think we should ask all the questions | 14:54 |
mfedosin | Also there should be a session about race conditions | 14:54 |
flaper87 | ok, I guess there are no open discussion topics today | 14:54 |
flaper87 | mfedosin: add it :D | 14:54 |
nikhil | flaper87: how did you come up with your nick? :P | 14:54 |
jokke_ | nikhil: I'm not saying I agree with all of them, but this is better situation that truing to figure out topics for last two sessions 2min before deadline | 14:54 |
flaper87 | mfedosin: I'd make it HA | 14:54 |
flaper87 | nikhil: LOL, It's super easy and it provides way too much information about me | 14:55 |
flaper87 | Name+Lastname+BirthYear | 14:55 |
flaper87 | :D | 14:55 |
flaper87 | I wanted flaper but flaper.com was not available | 14:55 |
nikhil | Nice! (I was missing some info) | 14:55 |
mclaren | It's like the movies when they guess your password :-) | 14:55 |
mfedosin | nikhil: for you it is Niko87 | 14:55 |
jokke_ | mclaren: :) | 14:56 |
flaper87 | and people still call me falper because it's dumb to say nicks+numbers outloud | 14:56 |
nikhil | mfedosin: that's almost a russian name | 14:56 |
flaper87 | nikhil: u 87 too ? | 14:56 |
jokke_ | mfedosin: nikkom87 :) | 14:56 |
nikhil | flaper87: heck yeah! | 14:56 |
* flaper87 highfives nikhil | 14:56 | |
nikhil | \o | 14:56 |
nikhil | jokke_: :P | 14:56 |
flaper87 | ok folks! | 14:56 |
nikhil | jokke_: I've considered nikkom as my website | 14:56 |
mfedosin | flaper87: nikhil ++ | 14:56 |
nikhil | but my family will disapprove of it | 14:57 |
nikhil | mfedosin: too 87! | 14:57 |
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nikhil | anyways, don't wannna block people | 14:57 |
flaper87 | hahaha | 14:57 |
jokke_ | nikhil: family approval is way too overrated | 14:57 |
nikhil | jokke_: heh | 14:57 |
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flaper87 | tty'all next week! Please, add more info to proposals and questions as well | 14:57 |
flaper87 | #endmeeting | 14:57 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 24 14:57:41 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:57 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-03-24-13.59.html | 14:57 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-03-24-13.59.txt | 14:57 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-03-24-13.59.log.html | 14:57 |
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TravT | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 24 15:00:19 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is TravT. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search' | 15:00 |
TravT | o/ | 15:00 |
sjmc7 | morning | 15:00 |
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TravT | morning | 15:00 |
lei-zh | o/ | 15:00 |
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TravT | Rick is out sick today, i think | 15:01 |
yingjun | morning/night | 15:01 |
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rosmaita | o/ | 15:01 |
TravT | o/ yingjun | 15:01 |
TravT | lakshmi should join shortly | 15:01 |
TravT | agenda is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda | 15:01 |
TravT | if there is anything you want to add, please go ahead! | 15:02 |
nikhil | o/ | 15:02 |
TravT | #topic Mitaka RC1 done | 15:02 |
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TravT | We had quite a push to finish things out in RC1 | 15:02 |
rosmaita | TravT: good job! | 15:02 |
itisha | Hey! | 15:03 |
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nikhil | ohai itisha! | 15:03 |
TravT | https://launchpad.net/searchlight/+milestone/mitaka-rc1 | 15:03 |
TravT | we have some cool stuff make it | 15:03 |
TravT | but this coming release, we will need to avoid the FFE's | 15:04 |
TravT | this does mean the repo is tagged and we have a stable/mitaka branch now | 15:04 |
TravT | since we do have some bugs floating into RC2, we'll be following the backport process | 15:05 |
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TravT | basically, a fix has to be made to master and merged | 15:05 |
TravT | then we cherry pick it to the stable/mitaka branch | 15:05 |
TravT | #topic Mitaka RC2 | 15:06 |
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TravT | https://launchpad.net/searchlight/+milestone/mitaka-rc2 | 15:06 |
TravT | The tough ones are already underway. | 15:07 |
TravT | the medium and two undecided are just documentation fixes, I think. | 15:07 |
TravT | i was looking at the generated release notes yesterday | 15:08 |
TravT | and the format is a little weird | 15:08 |
TravT | does anybody know where those actually get published to? | 15:08 |
TravT | rosmaita any ideas? | 15:09 |
rosmaita | not sure | 15:09 |
rosmaita | nikhil? | 15:10 |
nikhil | hi | 15:10 |
nikhil | was distracted, sorry | 15:10 |
nikhil | oh the reno stuff | 15:10 |
rosmaita | TravT is wondering where the released notes are published | 15:10 |
nikhil | I think here | 15:11 |
nikhil | #link http://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/index.html | 15:11 |
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nikhil | or at least a page related to it | 15:11 |
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TravT | yeah, i can see the release but not the notes | 15:12 |
TravT | http://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/index.html | 15:12 |
sjmc7_ | sorry, got disconnected | 15:12 |
TravT | no worries | 15:12 |
TravT | well, anyway, i can see the release notes generated in a recent build | 15:12 |
TravT | http://docs-draft.openstack.org/56/296356/3/check/gate-searchlight-releasenotes/940f3a1//releasenotes/build/html/mitaka.html | 15:12 |
TravT | and saw we might have missed a few things | 15:12 |
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TravT | so, i'll try to put a patch up to correct that. | 15:13 |
TravT | if there is anything missing from this list for bugs for rc2, please let me know or target the bug yourself: | 15:13 |
TravT | https://launchpad.net/searchlight/+milestone/mitaka-rc2 | 15:13 |
sjmc7 | there were a couple of patches i think we already moved to rc2 cos they weren;’t ready for 1 | 15:14 |
TravT | hmm, okay, well, re-target them if we didn't already. | 15:15 |
TravT | #topic searchlight-ui | 15:15 |
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TravT | still waiting for infra to move the repo under openstack NS | 15:16 |
TravT | thierry +1'd the governance change | 15:16 |
TravT | and i addressed a review on the infra patch yesterday. | 15:16 |
TravT | yesterday after server side stuff died down a bit, i started doing some little touchups to the plugin | 15:17 |
TravT | instructions for it should actually work now.. | 15:17 |
TravT | https://github.com/ttripp/searchlight-ui | 15:17 |
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TravT | have a couple other minor touch ups to do to it | 15:17 |
TravT | for mitaka | 15:18 |
sjmc7 | i installed it yesterday, seemed to work fine | 15:18 |
TravT | thanks... | 15:18 |
TravT | david-lyle saw you dropped | 15:18 |
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TravT | so just FYI that i've been doing some minor fixes to the searchlight-ui repo | 15:18 |
TravT | okay, that's all for that for now. | 15:19 |
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TravT | #topic newton | 15:19 |
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TravT | i've started "grooming" the blueprints a bit | 15:20 |
TravT | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight | 15:20 |
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TravT | i think next week we should go through them together and start talking priorities | 15:20 |
nikhil | I've a question after the update is over | 15:21 |
TravT | but if there is something that you'd like to have considered for newton that isn't on there, please add it | 15:21 |
TravT | nikhil: re this or just in general? | 15:21 |
nikhil | regarding this and may be in general :) | 15:21 |
TravT | go ahead! | 15:22 |
nikhil | We (artifacts team) had a chat with app-catalog folks yesterday | 15:22 |
nikhil | on their requirements for artifacts and how they should work | 15:22 |
nikhil | one things came up again and again | 15:22 |
nikhil | they want to scale the registry of artifacts across internet (www -- basically) | 15:23 |
david-lyle | TravT: net split ended up on the wrong side | 15:23 |
nikhil | are folks around then? | 15:23 |
TravT | roll call! | 15:24 |
TravT | i'm here | 15:24 |
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sjmc7 | still here | 15:24 |
rosmaita | here | 15:24 |
nikhil | I will continue | 15:24 |
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nikhil | they were hoping to see if they can use SL or if they should use elastic search for this | 15:24 |
nikhil | mostly they good information out to the users and that's real time-like update | 15:25 |
TravT | if they have any RBAC concerns, then i think taking advantage of searchlight concepts would be very beneficial to them | 15:25 |
sjmc7 | what do you mean about ‘scale it across the internet'? | 15:25 |
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nikhil | the way app-catalog is setup right now is a website apps.openstack.org and they are planning to run a Glare behind it | 15:25 |
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nikhil | the end users can be anyone in the world | 15:26 |
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TravT | so, how do they deploy this today? | 15:26 |
nikhil | and they will have read access to listing, download etc | 15:26 |
TravT | do they have multiple datacenters with replicated databases behind it? | 15:26 |
nikhil | it used to be hard coded and now they are using experimental API (not sure though at what capacity exactly) | 15:27 |
nikhil | TravT: nah! | 15:27 |
nikhil | I don't know what their plan is around geo-spatial HA | 15:27 |
nikhil | but they seemed to be on a plan to have a federated like setup | 15:27 |
nikhil | for scientific community for the most part | 15:28 |
nikhil | for eg. different National labs would want to share images, templates etc assets | 15:28 |
nikhil | and keep them versioned and tagged | 15:28 |
nikhil | all of it kept in app-catalog | 15:28 |
nikhil | but they may run a Glare on their end as well (or some other too) | 15:29 |
nikhil | that will get the latest of the assets from app-catalog into the local host | 15:29 |
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nikhil | (cloning -- if you may) | 15:29 |
TravT | so who all is on this team? | 15:30 |
nikhil | artifacts or app catalog? | 15:30 |
nikhil | (both are different teams) | 15:30 |
TravT | so is Glare and "artifacts" team the same thing now? | 15:31 |
nikhil | (and app catalog is a consumer of artifacts) | 15:31 |
nikhil | TravT: correct | 15:31 |
TravT | do you know their timeline? | 15:31 |
nikhil | GLARE == GLance Artifacts REpository | 15:31 |
nikhil | TravT: there wasn't a timeline posted. we're still working on the Glare API approval from defcore etc folks | 15:32 |
nikhil | may be this is newton may be ocata | 15:32 |
nikhil | (hence, regarding this and may be in general) | 15:32 |
TravT | okay, it sounds interesting. | 15:32 |
nikhil | anyways, the specific reason I brought this up was -- would we consider adding artifacts support? | 15:33 |
sjmc7 | we already have a BP for artifact support, although it’s not very well fleshed out | 15:33 |
TravT | ativelkov brought this up at the last summit | 15:33 |
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nikhil | yeah, but the API and architecture is now completely changed (Again!) | 15:33 |
TravT | so we entered a low BP | 15:33 |
TravT | yeah, that's what he mentioned | 15:33 |
TravT | that there needed to be some more work on glare first | 15:34 |
nikhil | it won't be very different from Glance | 15:34 |
nikhil | I mean Glare | 15:34 |
nikhil | (just more generic) | 15:34 |
nikhil | but Glance was a tough one with the prop protections and tags and notifications (Afair) | 15:35 |
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TravT | well, if their is a desire for any authentication / authorization / management tooling around ES, then SL has added benefit over starting from scratch with ES | 15:35 |
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TravT | their -> there | 15:35 |
nikhil | oh one more thing, they do not have/need keystone support | 15:35 |
nikhil | they use some other sort of authN | 15:36 |
sjmc7 | i think we maybe need to take this offline | 15:36 |
nikhil | but I thought the UI and may be horizon integration would be benefitial | 15:36 |
nikhil | sure | 15:36 |
nikhil | I wanted to know: what would be blockers? may be the lessons learnt will make things easier? | 15:36 |
nikhil | that we can discuss offline | 15:37 |
sjmc7 | auth would be one we’d need to discuss | 15:37 |
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TravT | yeah other auth provider is something we also need to look further into for swift, i think... | 15:37 |
sjmc7 | deployment would be another; if it’s not colocated with SL, there’s got to be a mechanism for getting information into SL | 15:37 |
TravT | nikhil, would the timeline for discussing this call for something pre-summit or is this a potential summit session? | 15:38 |
nikhil | TravT: I was thinking at the summit should be good enough. May be even at the contributors meetup would work. | 15:38 |
nikhil | depending on the availability and priorities | 15:39 |
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david-lyle | nikhil: Glare doesn't use keystone? | 15:39 |
nikhil | david-lyle: oh sorry, it's app catalog that doesn't need it. | 15:39 |
sjmc7 | the app catalog presumably doesn’t | 15:39 |
nikhil | Glare will be exactly like Glance on the basics of openstack. | 15:40 |
david-lyle | ok, less confused now | 15:40 |
sjmc7 | so no keystone at all, not just a federated provider? | 15:40 |
nikhil | I prolly shouldn | 15:40 |
nikhil | shouldn't have used the word federated | 15:41 |
david-lyle | community app-catalog isn't running on top of openstack | 15:41 |
sjmc7 | yeah, we should maybe not make wild assertions here. we’ll track them down at the summit | 15:41 |
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david-lyle | IIUC | 15:41 |
nikhil | david-lyle: yes and now they want to use artifacts (glare) to store assets | 15:41 |
nikhil | sjmc7: correct | 15:41 |
david-lyle | nikhil: where? | 15:42 |
nikhil | I brought this up to understand the project priorities and see if we can try to collaborate and get some momentum on this in newton even if it's just small things | 15:42 |
sjmc7 | ok. we’d need to understand the glare data model first off to be able to index anything | 15:42 |
sjmc7 | and then look at how they plan to deploy it in this instance | 15:43 |
nikhil | david-lyle: right now (afict) they hard code the links to assets | 15:43 |
nikhil | david-lyle: they will want to run a Glare backing the apps.openstack.org website | 15:43 |
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nikhil | sounds good. | 15:44 |
sjmc7 | i think i’ll have that inscribed on my gravestone, david-lyle | 15:44 |
david-lyle | :) | 15:44 |
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david-lyle | that's one fun authorization model | 15:45 |
nikhil | sorry about the confusion folks.. | 15:45 |
david-lyle | fun as in ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 15:45 |
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TravT | nikhil: thanks for bringing it up | 15:45 |
nikhil | :) | 15:45 |
TravT | it does sound like a good summit conversation | 15:46 |
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nikhil | looking forward to it | 15:46 |
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TravT | only one other thing i had to mention | 15:47 |
TravT | #topic notification bugs | 15:47 |
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TravT | sjmc7 already started and we should continue to get notification bugs / bps filed against other projects. | 15:48 |
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TravT | getting as much data via notification as possible is critical to scalability | 15:48 |
sjmc7 | yeah. nova’s the big one | 15:49 |
TravT | yeah, we need to figure out the versioned notifications with them. | 15:49 |
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TravT | i opened a bp on that | 15:49 |
TravT | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/+spec/nova-versioned-notifications | 15:49 |
sjmc7 | yes, that too | 15:49 |
TravT | with us... | 15:49 |
TravT | yingjun: have you made any progress on hypervisors? | 15:49 |
yingjun | not yet | 15:50 |
* TravT he might be asleep by now | 15:50 | |
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sjmc7 | :) | 15:50 |
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TravT | yingjun okay, i think that one will be pretty important to us. | 15:51 |
TravT | okay... | 15:51 |
TravT | #topic open discussion | 15:52 |
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yingjun | yes, i’ll put a initial patch recently without the notification | 15:52 |
sjmc7 | are there notificaitons at all for hypervisors? | 15:53 |
yingjun | no | 15:53 |
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TravT | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hypervisor-notification | 15:54 |
sjmc7 | ok | 15:54 |
TravT | we'll need to flesh that out a bit... perhaps after yingjun does initial plugin | 15:54 |
TravT | but soon enough to maybe get it noticed in nova land | 15:54 |
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rosmaita | i have a question about that | 15:55 |
rosmaita | who is hypervisor info aimed at? | 15:55 |
sjmc7 | admins | 15:55 |
rosmaita | i thought the whole point of hte cloud is users don't worry | 15:56 |
rosmaita | hmmm ... you'd hope they'd have some kind of inventory system | 15:56 |
TravT | this is for operators | 15:57 |
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rosmaita | ok | 15:57 |
TravT | rosmaita do you still do any nova work? | 15:57 |
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rosmaita | sort of | 15:58 |
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rosmaita | still mostly glance, but some nova | 15:58 |
yingjun | it would be helpful if someone could move on the hypervisor thing in nova.. | 15:59 |
TravT | okay. | 15:59 |
sjmc7 | anyone can submit a patch :) | 15:59 |
TravT | maybe rosmaita knows the right person to bribe, though. | 15:59 |
TravT | ;) | 15:59 |
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rosmaita | i'll ask johnthetubaguy what he thinks | 16:00 |
TravT | cool, thanks! | 16:00 |
rosmaita | though he'll be away until tuesday | 16:00 |
rosmaita | np | 16:00 |
TravT | guess we're out of time for today. | 16:00 |
TravT | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 24 16:00:37 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-03-24-15.00.html | 16:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-03-24-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-03-24-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
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prometheanfire | odyssey4me: hi | 16:01 |
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prometheanfire | no logs, let the chaos comence | 16:01 |
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odyssey4me | #startmeeting OpenStack-Ansible | 16:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 24 16:02:13 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is odyssey4me. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible' | 16:02 |
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d34dh0r53 | o/ | 16:02 |
odyssey4me | #topic Agenda & roll call | 16:02 |
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stevelle | o/ | 16:02 |
d34dh0r53 | o/ | 16:02 |
odyssey4me | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-ansible#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 16:03 |
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oneswig | o/ | 16:03 |
d34dh0r53 | sorry, always pre-roll call raise my hand | 16:03 |
mattt | o/ | 16:03 |
b3rnard0 | \o/ | 16:03 |
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cloudnull | o/ | 16:03 |
sigmavirus24 | o/ | 16:03 |
odyssey4me | The only action item from last week was for me to release Liberty 12.0.8 and Kilo 11.2.11, which was done - so we're good. | 16:04 |
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prometheanfire | \o/ | 16:05 |
odyssey4me | one of our topics from last week slipped the agenda as it was stuck on the bottom - I only noticed it this week | 16:05 |
odyssey4me | #topic Release notes in IRRs | 16:05 |
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automagically | o/ | 16:05 |
odyssey4me | palendae ping? | 16:05 |
palendae | o/ | 16:05 |
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spotz | o/ | 16:05 |
raddaoui | o/ | 16:06 |
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palendae | That one's been a while. So I had a question regarding release notes in repositories. I think the current state is to make a change in the repositories then put the release note in openstack-ansible | 16:06 |
palendae | However, I think putting the release note in just one of the repositories potentially misses communication for either of the audiences - those who consume it as a whole, and those who take just a role | 16:06 |
palendae | Currently, there isn't tooling to "roll up" role release notes, though | 16:07 |
palendae | So I'm not sure what would be best, but I think both people using OSA as a whole and people using individual roles should be able to see their relevant release notes close to the changes | 16:07 |
palendae | I think I'm done laying out my thoughts there :) | 16:08 |
automagically | +1 on release notes being visible in the individual roles for those who are using them | 16:08 |
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automagically | A related topic is how tags/releases are going to be handled on the IRRs | 16:09 |
odyssey4me | yeah, I would prefer for release notes to be coupled with the patch as intended - so I'd like to see that trend continue, and I'd be happy to instrument all the roles for release note publishing | 16:09 |
odyssey4me | I do also agree that there should ideally be some sort of roll-up mechanism | 16:09 |
spotz | +1 and I think it's on the agenda for summit | 16:09 |
palendae | Ok. We may have to engage with reno to work on the roll up | 16:10 |
odyssey4me | our basic agreement thus far is for all roles to br branched using the openstack branch name - eg: stable/mitaka - and to be tagged when we release mitaka | 16:10 |
odyssey4me | The tag numbers, I can't recall whether we got to an agreement at the mid-cycle on that. | 16:11 |
jmccrory_ | think it was tag on commit | 16:11 |
prometheanfire | is OSA following the mitaka branch of projects that have that yet? | 16:11 |
odyssey4me | We should perhaps have a focused discussion on that next week. I'd rather not tangent on the release note topic this week. | 16:11 |
automagically | Fair enough | 16:12 |
odyssey4me | palendae would you like to engage in #openstack-release regarding a release note roll-up? | 16:12 |
odyssey4me | or would you prefer me to? | 16:12 |
palendae | I can | 16:12 |
odyssey4me | ok, it's not urgent - but I think it's be best to raise it as a desired intent prior to the summit | 16:12 |
odyssey4me | I'll follow up at the summit in the cross-project/releases sessions. | 16:13 |
palendae | Yeah. It may be a bug/blueprint for reno | 16:13 |
palendae | Probably blueprint | 16:13 |
odyssey4me | initially just have a chat with dhellmann and take it from there | 16:13 |
odyssey4me | #action palendae to discuss the possibility of cross-repository release note roll-ups (in publishing) for the roll-up of release notes from the roles into the OSA integrated releases | 16:14 |
stevelle | I'd rather we have roll up before we scatter release notes to the wind. The primary case is to collect them in OSA and we should still try to serve that first IMO. | 16:14 |
odyssey4me | stevelle right, for the moment I'd prefer that we have the reno with the patch - and then ask for a reno patch in the integrated repo | 16:15 |
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odyssey4me | this covers us while we figure out whether roll-up is an option | 16:15 |
odyssey4me | any objections to that strategy? | 16:15 |
spotz | nope | 16:16 |
odyssey4me | I think we've largely been doing that in the last few weeks anyway. | 16:16 |
stevelle | it if means submitting two renos, it's additional work but I can accept that | 16:16 |
palendae | Would they get different SHAs? | 16:16 |
palendae | And does that matter? | 16:16 |
palendae | By SHAs I mean the IDs on the reno filename | 16:17 |
odyssey4me | palendae very possibly, and we'll have to cross that bridge when we get there I guess | 16:17 |
palendae | Ok. I can see if that matters | 16:17 |
palendae | Or the file can be copied | 16:17 |
odyssey4me | ah, that all depends on the submitter - personally I just copy the same file over | 16:17 |
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odyssey4me | I would prefer that to be done as it may help reduce duplication if we get to the point of rollingup | 16:17 |
palendae | Yeah | 16:17 |
odyssey4me | core reviewers, please bear these things in mind when doing reviews | 16:18 |
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odyssey4me | #info core reviewers to expect release notes with patches (where appropriate), and the same reno should be submitted to the main repo | 16:18 |
odyssey4me | happy to move on to the next topic? | 16:19 |
palendae | I am, yes | 16:19 |
d34dh0r53 | yep | 16:19 |
odyssey4me | #topic Early tag of Liberty | 16:20 |
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d34dh0r53 | tys | 16:20 |
cloudnull | hi d34dh0r53 :) | 16:20 |
d34dh0r53 | mornings :) | 16:21 |
odyssey4me | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291810 | 16:21 |
d34dh0r53 | The RPC-O project has identified the issue that odyssey4me just linked to as a blocker in our current release candidate and would like to petition an early SHA bump in OSA so that we can cleanly consume that fix | 16:22 |
cloudnull | +1 | 16:22 |
odyssey4me | Many thanks to logan- for identifying the bug and triaging it with cloudnull - I'm not sure of who else was involved. | 16:23 |
d34dh0r53 | logan-, cloudnull yes thank you both | 16:23 |
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odyssey4me | Personally, I think due to https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1559380 we should do an early tag of both Kilo and Liberty. | 16:23 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1559380 in openstack-ansible trunk "repo build broken due to pywbem 0.8.1" [High,Fix committed] - Assigned to Kevin Carter (kevin-carter) | 16:23 |
odyssey4me | A SHA bump will naturally follow. | 16:24 |
prometheanfire | odyssey4me: that would be nice | 16:24 |
d34dh0r53 | +1 | 16:24 |
prometheanfire | +1 | 16:24 |
palendae | I'd agree for the pywbem issue, not familiar with the other | 16:24 |
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palendae | Oh, yeah... +1 to both | 16:24 |
automagically | +1 for both | 16:24 |
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logan- | yeah +1 for pywbem alone haha | 16:25 |
spotz | +1 for both | 16:25 |
odyssey4me | while I added a reno this morning to identify the known issue, we need to tag for people to consume it: https://review.openstack.org/297060 | 16:25 |
odyssey4me | another issue identified after the last tag for liberty was https://review.openstack.org/297037 which affects minor upgrades | 16:25 |
odyssey4me | so yeah, I definitely think that we're due to tag | 16:26 |
odyssey4me | any objections? | 16:26 |
jmccrory | +1 lot of good reasons | 16:26 |
stevelle | no objections, good justifications | 16:26 |
odyssey4me | ok, good - I'll request releases after this meeting and submit the SHA bump patches immediately after the request has submitted | 16:27 |
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odyssey4me | #action odyssey4me to release next tags for Kilo/Liberty and submit reviews to SHA bump in both | 16:27 |
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odyssey4me | #topic Newton Summit Planning | 16:27 |
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odyssey4me | Nothing specific to say here - the etherpads are still up and available to make notes, comments, etc on. | 16:28 |
odyssey4me | Please do so especially in the brainstorm one, as I'd like to reference that for the community day and the housekeeping session. | 16:28 |
odyssey4me | Any questions or comments before we shift to discussing the Mitaka release status? | 16:29 |
jmccrory | odyssey4me on that last one real quick, liberty will need a SHA bump ahead of tagging to pick up the neutron fix. it was only merged yesterday | 16:29 |
prometheanfire | for sooth | 16:30 |
odyssey4me | jmccrory we SHA bump after the tag | 16:30 |
prometheanfire | downstreams can consume the sha bump directly | 16:30 |
prometheanfire | I know we do (for liberty+) | 16:30 |
odyssey4me | the tag releases the pywbem fix, the sha bump can be consumed directly by RPC so it achieves the goal | 16:30 |
jmccrory | ah ok gotcha | 16:30 |
odyssey4me | logan- do you rely on tags or are you happy to run from the head of liberty? | 16:30 |
logan- | i run from head | 16:31 |
odyssey4me | I'd like us to run on the updated SHA's for at least a week before we tag again - there may be gremlins. :) | 16:31 |
palendae | s/may be/are/ | 16:31 |
odyssey4me | ok awesome, so it covers the needs of both stakeholders who are specifically interested | 16:31 |
palendae | It's just the known gremlins are quelled for now :) | 16:32 |
spotz | You say that like gremlins are bad odyssey4me:) | 16:32 |
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logan- | tyvm | 16:32 |
d34dh0r53 | only after midnight | 16:32 |
odyssey4me | nothing a power hose can't solve :p | 16:32 |
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odyssey4me | #topic Mitaka release | 16:33 |
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odyssey4me | alright, so we've updated carried files/templates | 16:33 |
odyssey4me | the integrated SHA bump is failing - mattt's been looking into some issues | 16:33 |
odyssey4me | it seems like there's an issue with glance using swift as a store - we're not sure if it's a config change needed, or a regression in the glance_store lib yet | 16:34 |
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mattt | odyssey4me: new feature introduced is buggy from what i can tell, and there is no option to turn it off | 16:35 |
mattt | so we're stuck between a rock and a hard place | 16:35 |
odyssey4me | for anyone that has a gap to try it out, please spend some time looking into failures when applying https://review.openstack.org/296799 | 16:35 |
odyssey4me | also look for deprecated config notices, etc | 16:35 |
odyssey4me | mattt if it is a bug, then we should raise that as a critical one for Mitaka - a lot of people use swift as a store for glance | 16:36 |
mattt | odyssey4me: sigmavirus24 has asked that i hold off until he has had a chance to properly evaluate | 16:36 |
odyssey4me | cool, thanks for the support sigmavirus24 - and thanks to mattt for digging into it | 16:37 |
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odyssey4me | jmccrory automagically cloudnull d34dh0r53 stevelle mattt hughsaunders andymccr if you're looking into anything related to the Mitaka release, can you give us an update. I'd like to make sure we all know where we're at and where we need help. | 16:38 |
odyssey4me | Anyone else looking into anything, please also chime in. | 16:38 |
automagically | not yet, still testing the repo_build changes | 16:38 |
* d34dh0r53 has been focused primarily on liberty, sorry | 16:38 | |
andymccr | still need to get this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293911/ | 16:38 |
mattt | not looking into anything specific, wanted to get going on nova functional test today but got distracted tracking down the glance failure to a specific SHA | 16:38 |
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andymccr | otherwise the state between liberty --> mitaka will change due to the swift_sync --> swift merge | 16:38 |
cloudnull | most of my testing how to make things go faster. | 16:39 |
odyssey4me | andymccr yep, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293911/ needs https://review.openstack.org/296799 to merge - so perhaps you can help figure things out? | 16:39 |
cloudnull | geared at mitaka | 16:39 |
odyssey4me | andymccr an alternative may be to figure out which SHA bumps are required at minimum to make the integrated build work - then we can bump in two stages to get your patch in | 16:40 |
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andymccr | so we need that patch to merge to fix gating, but its failing gating atm? | 16:41 |
stevelle | We haven't had any progress with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290834 at this point. I might be able to revisit it this week but it seems like additional communication is needed | 16:41 |
odyssey4me | one way may be to pin glance_store temporarily - mattt? | 16:41 |
odyssey4me | andymccr yeah, nothing gets through the integrated gate right now | 16:41 |
mattt | odyssey4me: don't think that will work ? https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/requirements.txt#L51 | 16:41 |
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odyssey4me | mattt I thought that master may have moved on, but https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/stable/mitaka/requirements.txt#L51 :( | 16:44 |
mattt | yep so we're pretty much screwed at the moment | 16:44 |
odyssey4me | stevelle gerrit appears to be broken | 16:44 |
odyssey4me | what was that review regarding? | 16:44 |
stevelle | "Resolve oslo_config deprecations in nova.conf" | 16:44 |
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odyssey4me | ah yes | 16:45 |
odyssey4me | ok, so considering the time we have available to us - when do we think we should target to release? | 16:45 |
odyssey4me | it seems like we need at least this week and next to sort out some issues and prep | 16:45 |
andymccr | easter weekend for us too | 16:46 |
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odyssey4me | projected mitaka release date is 2016-04-07 | 16:46 |
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mattt | so no new features should be going into osa master right now right :) | 16:47 |
odyssey4me | once we do an RC, nothing but major bug fixes | 16:47 |
odyssey4me | but the RC will mean we branch | 16:47 |
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prometheanfire | good | 16:48 |
mattt | feels like we're still going a 100 mph | 16:48 |
prometheanfire | never slow down | 16:48 |
odyssey4me | I propose that we target an RC for 5 April. Perhaps 7 April (same as upstream release date). | 16:48 |
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odyssey4me | once we branch, that means that we can dive into Newton stuff and prep reviews for consideration and discussion at the summit. | 16:49 |
spotz | Odyssey4me if we have low bugs hold off? | 16:49 |
odyssey4me | my only concern right now would be to merge anything that's a bug change and may introduce regressions | 16:50 |
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spotz | I'm just docs | 16:50 |
odyssey4me | I'd rather see us hold off on those until we've branched, and let those sort of changes bake for a while before we backport. | 16:51 |
odyssey4me | Thoughts? | 16:51 |
odyssey4me | Doc updates are always good. Keep 'em coming! | 16:51 |
spotz | I'm good with that | 16:51 |
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automagically | Bake then backport seems reasonable | 16:51 |
prometheanfire | +1 | 16:51 |
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mattt | agree | 16:54 |
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odyssey4me | lol, got netsplit :/ | 16:56 |
d34dh0r53 | hah | 16:56 |
spotz | You were just ditching us we know | 16:56 |
odyssey4me | ok, we're out of time - we'll discuss this again next week - I think we'll be in a better position to confidently set a date then | 16:57 |
odyssey4me | Thank you all for your time! | 16:57 |
odyssey4me | #endmeeting | 16:57 |
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spotz | o/ | 16:57 |
openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 24 16:57:57 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:57 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-03-24-16.02.html | 16:58 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-03-24-16.02.txt | 16:58 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-03-24-16.02.log.html | 16:58 |
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LouisF | #startmeeting service_chaining | 16:59 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 24 16:59:39 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is LouisF. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:59 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:59 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining' | 16:59 |
pcarver | hi | 16:59 |
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LouisF | pcarver: hi cathy just got back from business trip and will not join today | 17:00 |
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pcarver | yes, I saw her email. | 17:00 |
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LouisF | i was out last week at onf but i see you and vikram were on the meeting | 17:01 |
pcarver | yes. It was pretty quiet. | 17:01 |
pcarver | We talked a bit but I think it was pretty much just the two of us | 17:01 |
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LouisF | looks quiet today also | 17:03 |
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pcarver | Yes. I don't know if there's anything major. There's been some minor bug fix activity. | 17:04 |
pcarver | Most of my attention has been elsewhere. | 17:04 |
vishnoianil | LouisF, pcarver hey | 17:04 |
LouisF | yes https://review.openstack.org/295407 | 17:04 |
LouisF | vishnoianil: hi | 17:04 |
vishnoianil | LouisF, pcarver let me introduce myself, i am contributor/committer to opendaylight project (ovsdb,controller,openflowplugin) | 17:05 |
mohankumar | Hi LouisF, Pcarver | 17:05 |
pcarver | vishnoianil: welcome | 17:05 |
vishnoianil | LouisF, i am interested in contributing to odl sfc driver in networking-sfc | 17:05 |
vishnoianil | pcarver, thanks :) | 17:06 |
LouisF | vishnoianil: i had a brief chat with yi yang at onf on that driver | 17:06 |
vishnoianil | LouisF, pcarver , just wanted to know if anybody already working on that with whom i can sync up | 17:06 |
pcarver | That would be great. I'm very interested in seeing many drivers developed | 17:06 |
LouisF | vishnoianil: do you work with him? | 17:06 |
pcarver | I don't think an ODL driver has been started | 17:06 |
vishnoianil | LouisF, I work with Sridhar (tacker) | 17:07 |
vishnoianil | i know YiYang ( i believe from Intel)? | 17:07 |
LouisF | vishnoianil: yes he is at intel | 17:07 |
LouisF | vishnoianil: i think it would be good to contact him | 17:08 |
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vishnoianil | LouisF, any idea whether he is planning to contribute / start on the driver? | 17:08 |
vishnoianil | LouisF, cool, i will sync up with him. | 17:08 |
s3wong | hello. Sorry, a bit late | 17:08 |
LouisF | vishnoianil: he is located in china i believe so he is not on this call | 17:08 |
vishnoianil | in case he is still interesting in contributing on it | 17:09 |
LouisF | s3wong: hi, we are discussing the odl driver for networking-sfc | 17:09 |
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s3wong | LouisF: oh, OK. trozet (Tim Rozet from Redhat) has experience there and is also interested to contribute ODL SFC driver for networking-sfc | 17:09 |
LouisF | vishnoianil: contact yi yang on the odl driver and its design | 17:10 |
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LouisF | vishnoianil: there is an onos driver already | 17:10 |
vishnoianil | s3wong, yes, i had a discussion with him (Tim) as well | 17:11 |
s3wong | vishnoianil: good | 17:11 |
LouisF | s3wong: yes i saw his comments on tacker-to-networking-sfc driver | 17:11 |
vishnoianil | LouisF, so i believe Tim, Yi are interested, so i think we can need to discuss it to make some progress on it | 17:11 |
LouisF | vishnoianil: that would be good | 17:12 |
s3wong | LouisF: as he already wrote a driver for ODL SFC in Tacker (not committed), I think his experience would be invaluable for ODL SFC integration here | 17:12 |
vishnoianil | LouisF, s3wong do we have any existing blueprint for sfc odl driver? | 17:12 |
s3wong | vishnoianil: don't think so | 17:12 |
LouisF | vishnoianil: no | 17:12 |
vishnoianil | s3wong, yup totally agree, i will be keeping Tim in the loop | 17:12 |
s3wong | vishnoianil: great! | 17:13 |
vishnoianil | s3wong, LouisF okay, i will work with tim.Yi to comeup with the blueprint and lets start from there | 17:13 |
LouisF | vishnoianil: that would be a great start | 17:13 |
s3wong | vishnoianil: sounds good! | 17:13 |
vishnoianil | s3wong, LouisF , is there any place where this action item can be put against me, so if anyone else is interested they can reach out to me ? | 17:14 |
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LouisF | vishnoianil: we can add to the wiki | 17:14 |
s3wong | vishnoianil: not really... but once you added the blueprint, you can assign that to yourself | 17:15 |
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s3wong | vishnoianil: you can further add an item on networking-sfc launchpad and assign that to yourself as well | 17:15 |
LouisF | vishnoianil: btw the tacker / networking-sfc integration spec is at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290771/ | 17:15 |
LouisF | vishnoianil: please review | 17:16 |
vishnoianil | s3wong, LouisF great, i will add it to launchpad and then will push the blueprint | 17:16 |
vishnoianil | LouisF, yes, i am aware of the networking-sfc intergration spec, i will review it | 17:16 |
LouisF | vishnoianil: thanks | 17:16 |
s3wong | vishnoianil: ODL SFC networking-sfc driver isn't a dependency on tacker/networking-sfc integration, though it is a requirement for OPNFV | 17:17 |
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LouisF | s3wong: agree | 17:17 |
s3wong | vishnoianil: so it is great that you and trozet step up to contribute there. Thanks! | 17:17 |
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vishnoianil | LouisF, s3wong , yes it's to add support for SDN controller as a backend sfc provider | 17:18 |
vishnoianil | and OPNFV is a first big consumer | 17:19 |
LouisF | #action vishnoianil to add networking-sfc odl driver spec to launchpad | 17:19 |
s3wong | vishnoianil: looking forward to your spec (please send gerrit review against networking-sfc repo) | 17:19 |
vishnoianil | LouisF, s3wong sure will do Thanks folks | 17:20 |
vishnoianil | s3wong, LouisF i just noticed i didn't mention my name :) | 17:20 |
vishnoianil | s3wong, LouisF my name is Anil | 17:20 |
LouisF | vishnoianil: hi Anil, welcome | 17:21 |
mohankumar | Anil welcome to netwoking-sfc | 17:21 |
s3wong | vishnoianil: nice to meet you virtually, Anil | 17:21 |
vishnoianil | LouisF, mohankumar s3wong thanks folks. I am in San Jose area | 17:21 |
vishnoianil | so if you guys do have hackton, i would be happy to join :) | 17:22 |
vishnoianil | hackton in bay area | 17:22 |
LouisF | ok moving on | 17:22 |
LouisF | #topic new work | 17:23 |
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trozet | s3wong, vishnoianil: yeah I mean I have a driver that works with Tacker (bypasses neutron), so we can leverage some of that for the networking-sfc driver | 17:23 |
LouisF | i posted a list of items at a previous meeting: SDN controller drivers, support of a mixed chain of VM, container, physical device, integration with upstream Tacker, enhancement of Flow Classifier, Horizon, OAM, Heat, tempest tests | 17:24 |
LouisF | i think we have some progress with the odl driver work | 17:24 |
s3wong | trozet: yes --- that would be valuable experience for networking-sfc ODL driver; please work with vishnoianil on this. Thanks! | 17:25 |
LouisF | and also the tacker integration | 17:25 |
trozet | s3wong: yeah vishnoianil and I have a meeting setup netxt week | 17:25 |
s3wong | trozet, vishnoianil: great. Thanks! | 17:25 |
LouisF | trozet: when is the meeting? | 17:25 |
s3wong | LouisF: (sorry for hijacking your topic) | 17:25 |
trozet | LouisF: 3pm EST Monday | 17:26 |
LouisF | s3wong: np all part of new work | 17:26 |
LouisF | on openstack-meeting-4? | 17:26 |
trozet | LouisF: vishnoianil is the organizer, if you want to join that would be cool. I think its a google hangout | 17:26 |
LouisF | can you send details | 17:26 |
trozet | LouisF: sure send me your email | 17:27 |
LouisF | louis.fourie@huawei.com | 17:27 |
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trozet | LouisF: got it | 17:27 |
LouisF | trozet: btw i posted an updated version of the integration spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290771/ | 17:28 |
LouisF | s3wong: trozet please review | 17:28 |
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trozet | LouisF: will do | 17:29 |
s3wong | LouisF: sure | 17:29 |
trozet | LouisF: review mine as well ;) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292196/ | 17:29 |
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LouisF | trozet: will do | 17:29 |
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s3wong | trozet: for that one you are basically just moving it from mitaka to newton, right? :-) | 17:30 |
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trozet | s3wong: yeah and making sure it points to networking-sfc as the driver rather than ODL driver | 17:30 |
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s3wong | trozet: cool :-) | 17:31 |
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LouisF | trozet: great | 17:31 |
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LouisF | mohankumar: what is the status on Horizon? | 17:32 |
mohankumar | LouisF For Horizon i didn't get chance to work last week | 17:32 |
LouisF | mohankumar: ok thanks keep us posted on progress | 17:33 |
mohankumar | LouisF ,Heat i ve posted 4 patches .. there are some review coments i need to work upon | 17:34 |
LouisF | mohankumar: thanks what are the patches? | 17:34 |
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mohankumar | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249729/ | 17:35 |
mohankumar | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277849/ | 17:35 |
mohankumar | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277940/ | 17:35 |
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mohankumar | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277988/ | 17:35 |
LouisF | mohankumar: thanks - everyone please review these | 17:36 |
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LouisF | regarding fc enhancements - vikram had some ideas but he is not on the call - we can pick up next week | 17:39 |
mohankumar | LouisF , I ve a question , our code supports port_pairs across OVS in one port_pair_group ? | 17:40 |
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LouisF | mohankumar: not clear on your question - a port-pair can only be in one PPG | 17:41 |
LouisF | each PPG can be in different port-chains | 17:42 |
mohankumar | LouisF, say i want to do load-balance among Service Function VMs which are in different OVS | 17:43 |
LouisF | mohankumar: ok i see, yes that is possible. | 17:43 |
mohankumar | LouisF , OK | 17:44 |
LouisF | the port-pairs in a PPG can reside on different nodes (HVs) | 17:44 |
mohankumar | LouisF , thanks | 17:44 |
LouisF | the ovs driver we have currently supports that | 17:45 |
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LouisF | #topic open discussion | 17:45 |
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LouisF | any questions? | 17:46 |
LouisF | comments, ideas? | 17:46 |
mohankumar | any one downloaded sfc master code and working on it ? | 17:46 |
mohankumar | me getting some error https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/1557600 | 17:46 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1557600 in networking-sfc "port-chain-delete failing as "SfcDriverError"" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Mohankumar (mohankumar-n) | 17:46 |
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LouisF | mohankumar: let me check on that | 17:48 |
mohankumar | In stable/liberty branch is okay | 17:48 |
LouisF | mohankumar: ok | 17:48 |
mohankumar | LouisF , thanks ..Please comment in Lanchpad | 17:49 |
LouisF | mohankumar: ok | 17:49 |
LouisF | anything else? | 17:50 |
mohankumar | these are bugs filled last week | 17:50 |
mohankumar | https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/1557960 | 17:50 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1557960 in networking-sfc "neutron ext-list name fileld should be descriptive " [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Mohankumar (mohankumar-n) | 17:50 |
mohankumar | https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/1558012 | 17:50 |
mohankumar | https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/1558020 | 17:50 |
mohankumar | https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/1557600 | 17:50 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1558012 in networking-sfc "incorrect error message for invalid argument in "neutron port-pair-group-create --port-pair"" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Mohankumar (mohankumar-n) | 17:50 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1558020 in networking-sfc "API document have to modify as per changes introduced in flow classifier" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Mohankumar (mohankumar-n) | 17:50 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1557600 in networking-sfc "port-chain-delete failing as "SfcDriverError"" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Mohankumar (mohankumar-n) | 17:50 |
mohankumar | please review it | 17:50 |
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LouisF | mohankumar: ok will do | 17:50 |
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LouisF | ok then I am going to end | 17:52 |
LouisF | bye all | 17:52 |
mohankumar | bye :) | 17:52 |
s3wong | bye | 17:52 |
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s3wong | 8 minutes saved! | 17:52 |
LouisF | #endmeeting | 17:52 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 24 17:52:50 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:52 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-03-24-16.59.html | 17:52 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-03-24-16.59.txt | 17:52 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-03-24-16.59.log.html | 17:52 |
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