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| tfukushima | #startmeeting kuryr | 03:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 22 03:01:22 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tfukushima. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 03:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 03:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 03:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kuryr' | 03:01 |
| tfukushima | Who's up for Kuryr weekly meeting? | 03:01 |
| fawadkhaliq | o/ | 03:02 |
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| tfukushima | mspreitz: Are you joining us as well? | 03:02 |
| mspreitz | yes | 03:03 |
| tfukushima | #info fawadkhaliq, mspreitz and tfukushima are present. | 03:03 |
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| tfukushima | So it seems we don't have the agenda today. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Kuryr#Meeting_March_14.2C_2016 | 03:03 |
| tfukushima | But we can inherit the previous one. | 03:04 |
| tfukushima | We can go quick. | 03:04 |
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| tfukushima | #topic Kubernetes Integration | 03:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Kubernetes Integration (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 03:05 | |
| tfukushima | So we had the k8s meeting as you know. | 03:05 |
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| mspreitz | not sure I do | 03:06 |
| mspreitz | which meeting? | 03:06 |
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| tfukushima | mspreitz: You led the meeting actually :-) | 03:06 |
| mspreitz | I suppose that narrows it down a bit | 03:06 |
| mspreitz | I probably remember most of it | 03:07 |
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| mspreitz | I updated my devref with examples, as discussed. | 03:07 |
| mspreitz | IIRC there was also a request for finer details on the implementation, but I have not had time to write that yet. | 03:08 |
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| mspreitz | Baohua Yang also raised an interesting point in review: the policy agent looks like it is not really specific to the translate approach, could be used for the direct approach too. | 03:09 |
| mspreitz | He also carried on about linux bridges, but I think he is still misguided about that. But he is not here now. | 03:10 |
| tfukushima | mspreitz: Ok, we need to take a look at it. | 03:10 |
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| mspreitz | That's all the news I have for now. | 03:11 |
| tfukushima | #action baohua gives us more details about the linux bridge stuff and the policy agent. | 03:11 |
| tfukushima | #action Everyone reviews mspreitz's spec, which introduces the CNM-CNI translation. | 03:12 |
| tfukushima | #action Everyone reviews irenab's spec, which introduces the direct translation with the agent and the CNI plugin. | 03:12 |
| tfukushima | mspreitz: Thanks. | 03:12 |
| mspreitz | yw | 03:12 |
| mspreitz | Regarding Irena's spec... | 03:13 |
| mspreitz | I think it might be good to split out the part about replacing the kube-proxy | 03:13 |
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| mspreitz | That, and the MT part, open lots of issues. We might want to factor the spec into two or three. | 03:14 |
| tfukushima | mspreitz: Sorry, what is "MT" here? | 03:14 |
| mspreitz | Multi-Tenancy | 03:14 |
| tfukushima | Oh, multi tenancy. | 03:14 |
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| tfukushima | #action irenab thinks about to split her spec into a few pieces, like kube-proxy part and multi-tenancy part. | 03:15 |
| tfukushima | Yeah, kube-proxy replacement plan can be optional. | 03:16 |
| mspreitz | Oh, and I remembered one other thing... | 03:16 |
| mspreitz | What's up with making Neutron routers share routing information? | 03:16 |
| mspreitz | I saw some stuff on the mailing list that suggests there is some work under way for that. | 03:16 |
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| tfukushima | mspreitz: Could you elaborate it more? | 03:17 |
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| * mspreitz looks through email inbox... | 03:17 | |
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| mspreitz | Subject line is "[openstack-dev] [neutron] BGP Dynamic Routing Development GoingForward" | 03:18 |
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| mspreitz | I haven't tried to digest it yet myself. | 03:18 |
| tfukushima | #link mspreitz 's CNM-CNI spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290172/ | 03:18 |
| tfukushima | #link irenab's direct translation spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281132/ | 03:18 |
| mspreitz | I just wondered if anybody here has a TL;DR | 03:19 |
| tfukushima | I don't unfortunately. How about you, fawadkhaliq? | 03:19 |
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| fawadkhaliq | tfukushima: same | 03:20 |
| tfukushima | Ok. | 03:20 |
| tfukushima | mspreitz: I might be wrong but I thought we could just use a Neutron router for connecting subnets under the same network, which could be translated into the namespace. | 03:22 |
| mspreitz | For level 1 ambition that's fine. For level 2, introducing multi-tenancy, I suggested a router per tenant. Now we get to think about routing between tenants. | 03:22 |
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| tfukushima | Uh, I see. | 03:23 |
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| tfukushima | #action K8s guys check the thread "[openstack-dev] [neutron] BGP Dynamic Routing Development Going Forward" on ML | 03:23 |
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| tfukushima | So for the direct translation side, I'm working on the devref of the API watcher agent now. I'll submit it once it gets nice shape. | 03:25 |
| tfukushima | #action tfukushima write the devref of the API watcher agent | 03:25 |
| tfukushima | The agent idea could be used for other things such as the translation of the policy and so on, I believe. | 03:26 |
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| tfukushima | I hope I could finish it before "Hanami" season in Tokyo, which is the random party where you see cherry blossoms and drink sake. | 03:27 |
| tfukushima | Let's move on. | 03:27 |
| tfukushima | #topic Nested Containers and Magnum Integration | 03:27 |
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| tfukushima | fawadkhaliq: Congrats for you patch merged. | 03:28 |
| tfukushima | s/you/your/ | 03:28 |
| fawadkhaliq | tfukushima: thanks | 03:28 |
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| fawadkhaliq | so gsagie introduced oanson to me, who will be helping with the next steps | 03:29 |
| tfukushima | fawadkhaliq: Good. What'd be the next step? | 03:29 |
| fawadkhaliq | I am hoping to make some progress on the kuryr agent details. Need to find some time to get to that and then implementation. | 03:29 |
| fawadkhaliq | there's not much other than this on this topic today | 03:30 |
| tfukushima | #fawadkhaliq takes the next step to give the details of the kuryr agent and the implementation with the help from oanson | 03:31 |
| tfukushima | #action fawadkhaliq takes the next step to give the details of the kuryr agent and the implementation with the help from oanson | 03:31 |
| tfukushima | Ooops, excuse me. | 03:31 |
| tfukushima | fawadkhaliq: Ok, thanks. | 03:31 |
| tfukushima | #topic Existing Networks | 03:32 |
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| tfukushima | banix is not here but he's working on this already. | 03:32 |
| fawadkhaliq | yw | 03:32 |
| tfukushima | #link banix's patch with Neuron tag https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288737/ | 03:33 |
| tfukushima | He's leveraging the newly introduced "tag" field for the Neutron resources to track the Docker IDs. | 03:34 |
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| tfukushima | #link banix's patch for "-o neutron.net.uuid=d98d1259-03d1-4b45-9b86-b039cba1d90d" capability https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280948/ | 03:35 |
| tfukushima | #topic Fullstack and Rally integration | 03:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Fullstack and Rally integration (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 03:35 | |
| tfukushima | It seems baohua is not here today but he's in charge of this. | 03:36 |
| tfukushima | #link baohua's patches https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:baohua%2540linux.vnet.ibm.com+status:open | 03:37 |
| tfukushima | fawadkhaliq: Thanks for your reviews. | 03:37 |
| tfukushima | I think we can finish early today. | 03:38 |
| tfukushima | #topic open discussion | 03:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 03:38 | |
| tfukushima | mspreitz , fawadkhaliq: Do you have anything you want to talk specifically? | 03:38 |
| mspreitz | I have nothing to add now. | 03:38 |
| fawadkhaliq | tfukushima: nothing from my side. | 03:38 |
| tfukushima | Alright, let's wrap the meeting up. | 03:39 |
| tfukushima | Thanks for joining and let's keep eyes on patches. | 03:39 |
| tfukushima | #endmeeting | 03:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 03:39 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 22 03:39:47 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-03-22-03.01.html | 03:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-03-22-03.01.txt | 03:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-03-22-03.01.log.html | 03:39 |
| fawadkhaliq | bye | 03:40 |
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| carl_baldwin | Hi | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | hi | 14:00 |
| xiaohhui | hi | 14:00 |
| carl_baldwin | I didn't get the chance to update the agenda. Sorry about that. | 14:01 |
| carl_baldwin | #startmeeting neutron_routed_networks | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 22 14:01:20 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_routed_networks)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_routed_networks' | 14:01 |
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| carl_baldwin | #topic Announcements | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_routed_networks)" | 14:01 | |
| carl_baldwin | I don't have much to announce. Anyone? | 14:02 |
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| xiaohhui | nothing from me | 14:02 |
| mlavalle | Newton is open now | 14:02 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: ++ | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | and we are about a month from the Summit | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | we should start thinking what meetings we want to hold regarding routed networks | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | especially with the Nova team | 14:03 |
| * johnthetubaguy lurks | 14:04 | |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: true. I've got to book travel. | 14:04 |
| carl_baldwin | johnthetubaguy: hi | 14:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | hey | 14:04 |
| mlavalle | johnthetubaguy: good to see you :-) | 14:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | I keep meaning to hit your spec again | 14:04 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Progress | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Progress (Meeting topic: neutron_routed_networks)" | 14:04 | |
| carl_baldwin | johnthetubaguy: that is a good segue. | 14:04 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263898/ | 14:05 |
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| carl_baldwin | We've been getting some attention from the scheduler team on it. | 14:05 |
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| carl_baldwin | I have responses to feedback and a new version of the spec almost ready to post. | 14:05 |
| mlavalle | I asked jaypipes to review it yesterday during the scheduler meeting | 14:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I suspect getting agreement on that spec is the best target for the summit, I guess that covers most of the details now | 14:06 |
| mlavalle | He was super nice and reviewed it right away | 14:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | on the nova side I mean | 14:06 |
| carl_baldwin | Thank you jaypipes. | 14:06 |
| reedip__ | Hi | 14:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | did you see jay's spec on the nova side, for the generic resource provider stuff, I guess you have? | 14:07 |
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| mlavalle | johnthetubaguy: yes I just reviewed it and provided feedback, especially on the Neutron aspects | 14:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mlavalle: awesome, I need to take a look at the pair of these | 14:07 |
| carl_baldwin | It looks to me like the difficult part is going to be nailing down the details of how to handle allocations and reserved in the scheduler. I started thinking about it again last night but it will take me a little more time to think through it again. | 14:08 |
| carl_baldwin | johnthetubaguy: I should take another pass through Jay's. | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | carl_baldwin: +1 thats the tricky bit, I think we all mostly agree on the other parts, based on the midcycle | 14:08 |
| carl_baldwin | johnthetubaguy: It would help to have another review. As I recall, you had some good insight in Bristol. | 14:09 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: the sticking part is with ports with ip addresses created in Neutron and passed to Nova | 14:09 |
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| johnthetubaguy | the problem is ports that have an IP address, but are not associated with that particular Nova deploy (worrying about two nova's one neutron in my head here) | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | mlavalle: +1 | 14:09 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I have wondered about Neutron registering the claims in Nova's database, when its a "Nova" claimed IPs, i.e. check Nova has a claim for an IP for that port, before assigning it in Neutron | 14:11 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: what if for each segment, we assign 2 subnets, one for Nova to allocate ips from and the other for Neutron to allocate ips from? | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | but I don't like how coupled those two things are | 14:11 |
| carl_baldwin | Or, with ports created in Neutron without an IP address. Depending on how you look at it. | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | mlavalle: I don't like more segments, we have more pools of wasted IP addresses that way | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | mlavalle: think about when a port gets re-used for an existing server, you can't switch segments at that point | 14:12 |
| mlavalle | johnthetubaguy: yeap, I am just brainstorming ways to decouple the ip allocation between Nova and Neutron | 14:12 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I think either neutron checks claims in Nova, or we do some dance around the reserved number getting updated correctly | 14:13 |
| carl_baldwin | I think mlavalle meant two subnets rather than segments. But, the IP waste is still something to think about. | 14:13 |
| mlavalle | yes, the IP waste is a problem | 14:13 |
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| carl_baldwin | johnthetubaguy: My current revision of the spec has something like the "dance". Jay provided feedback on that (Ed too, a little bit) and I'm currently digesting that feedback. | 14:13 |
| mlavalle | I tend to think that the number of ports created in Neutron with IPs will be smaller than the number of ports created by Nova. So the subnet for Neutron could have smaller range | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | honestly, I am leaning towards Neutron optionally checking Nova has a claim for that port uuid in the correct pool, when assignging IPs, (and adding a claim if its missing). | 14:15 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so if Nova has reserved an IP, Neutron doesn't give it out by accident | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | and other such cases | 14:15 |
| kevinbenton | a nova api call on every neutron port create? | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | its more coupling that I would like, but I am struggling to find anything thats as clean | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | kevinbenton: yeah, its not great | 14:16 |
| kevinbenton | is it an issue if neutron gives it out? | 14:16 |
| mlavalle | kevinbenton: not necessarilly on very port creation. We could limit that to segments in roued networks | 14:16 |
| kevinbenton | mlavalle: but in a deployment that depends on this topology, that would be almost every port creation | 14:17 |
| mlavalle | mhhh... True | 14:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | so here is the thing, we can use a service token when talking to neutron for when Nova calls to avoid the callback, so Nova asserts we have a claim | 14:17 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: hi. It is turning out to be a bit of a struggle to ensure that the scheduler has the data it needs to make reservations and still maintain ownership of IP addresses in Neutron. Welcome to the conversation. | 14:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | and most port creates in this world mean no IP address is assigned, until the port is attached, so it would limit the cases where its needed | 14:18 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so I think its possible to "require" the call, then promptly avoid it in 99% of port creates, if that makes any sense | 14:18 |
| carl_baldwin | johnthetubaguy: I'll admit I don't have my head wrapped around this idea yet. | 14:19 |
| kevinbenton | there are two things at play here. one is just getting the data to nova. the other is blocking neutron from allocating an IP | 14:19 |
| kevinbenton | if the latter is not necessary, we can use the existing nova notifier neutron has to dispatch IP allocation pool changes | 14:19 |
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| johnthetubaguy | we need the later, else the claim in Nova is pointless | 14:19 |
| kevinbenton | well the claim affects all VM booting, no? | 14:19 |
| mlavalle | yes, the latter is exactly the sticking point | 14:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | kevinbenton: I think so, but not sure I fully understand your question | 14:20 |
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| kevinbenton | so not completely pointless. it would just be stale for a few seconds if a user creates a port with an IP via the Neutron API directly | 14:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | so we are trying to avoid all those races, as in practice they turn out to be a big deal | 14:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | its kinda surprising, but its really about when you get big bursts of build requests coming into the system, and there being certain limits of when you can retry builds | 14:22 |
| kevinbenton | bursts of builds would not trigger this though because nova will manage its allocations | 14:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | kevinbenton: true | 14:22 |
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| kevinbenton | the only time this would be an issue is if someone ate up all of the IPs via the neutron API at exactly the same time as a build | 14:22 |
| kevinbenton | The thing i'm worried about is implying that Nova will be a source of truth that will make us safe to these races | 14:23 |
| kevinbenton | Because IPAM is pluggable in Neutron now | 14:23 |
| kevinbenton | so available IPs could change under other constraints | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | honestly, I think we should design for a case that works great, and make it easy for others to opt into that approach | 14:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | so if neutron has an optional check of Nova for the claim, before calling out to get the IP from IPAM, what other issues would be hit? | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | (assuming for the common case, Nova sends details to neutron to say there is not need to check the claim, its already been claimed) | 14:26 |
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| kevinbenton | what will neutron ask Nova? | 14:27 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: johnthetubaguy: I'm not sure that I have a firm grasp on what either of you has in mind in great detail. | 14:27 |
| carl_baldwin | Is there a way that we could spell out these proposals to be sure we all have the same understanding? | 14:28 |
| kevinbenton | johnthetubaguy: something like, "can i use an IP out of this subnet?" | 14:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | kevinbenton: it would more be, get-or-return-claim-uuid for port uuid-a for resource pool uuid-b | 14:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | carl_baldwin: comments on your spec, maybe? | 14:29 |
| carl_baldwin | johnthetubaguy: yes, that works. | 14:29 |
| kevinbenton | johnthetubaguy: does that create a claim if one doesn't exist? | 14:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | kevinbenton: yes, a bit like get-me-a-network, creates it, or returns the existing one | 14:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | idenpotent-ey | 14:30 |
| mlavalle | so the 'get' part is the create if it doesn't exist, right? | 14:31 |
| kevinbenton | johnthetubaguy: so then if the port create fails, we have to handle a rollback notification to nova, right? | 14:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | mlavalle: good point, I meant create-or-get-claim-uuid | 14:31 |
| mlavalle | clearer now :-) | 14:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | kevinbenton: hmm, depends how you handle that, I was expecting to have a port in the error state that needs deleteing, and on delete you drop the claim | 14:32 |
| kevinbenton | johnthetubaguy: well it depends on where it fails | 14:32 |
| kevinbenton | johnthetubaguy: If it fails to allocate an IP because of a race (concurrent server request), the whole process will be restarted | 14:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | kevinbenton: can we leave that late enough, as we only need the claim before doing the IPAM call, I guess | 14:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 14:33 |
| kevinbenton | johnthetubaguy: so in that case, we can no longer use db rollbacks | 14:33 |
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| kevinbenton | johnthetubaguy: this is now an operation with an external side effect | 14:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | kevinbenton: this is certainly outside the db transaction | 14:34 |
| kevinbenton | johnthetubaguy: yeah, that won't work. we will need to refactor stuff. Right now everything including IPAM is assumed to be pre-commit and safe to rollback and retry | 14:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | so clairifcation point | 14:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | the claim is for "a" member of the pool | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | not for a specific IP address | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | so you should be able to retry several times, without needing to refresh the claim | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | assuming the port uuid is static | 14:36 |
| kevinbenton | but the port uuid is not IIRC | 14:36 |
| kevinbenton | one sec | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, that would certainly need to change to make the above work | 14:37 |
| kevinbenton | yes, right now it will be generated on each call since it won't be specified | 14:38 |
| kevinbenton | https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/db/db_base_plugin_v2.py#L1213 | 14:38 |
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| kevinbenton | this function will be called on each retry | 14:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | kevinbenton: yeah, as long as we generate the uuid outside that look, it should be better I guess | 14:39 |
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| kevinbenton | what happens when a server dies in the middle of this? what makes this eventually consistent? | 14:40 |
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| kevinbenton | we can take this discussion to the spec. my initial reaction to this is that it feels wrong that Neutron has to ask Nova if it's allowed to do something with Neutron resources | 14:43 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: I agree with that. We also don't want the scheduler to have to ask Neutron when scheduling. So, we don't really want to require either service to ask the other. | 14:47 |
| carl_baldwin | I also agree that Neutron needs to be the ultimate source of truth around IP availability. | 14:47 |
| mlavalle | ++ | 14:47 |
| carl_baldwin | ... more specifically, IPAM | 14:47 |
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| carl_baldwin | Let's take it to the spec. I think there are a lot of ways this *could* be done. I'd like to make sure that we have them all laid out well enough to understand them and compare them. | 14:48 |
| mlavalle | I am still going to propose the 2 subnets approach in the spec. At least it is another alternative | 14:49 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Please do. | 14:49 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sorry, I got totally distracted there | 14:51 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: I'm not sure that I have a handle on what alternative you have in mind. | 14:51 |
| carl_baldwin | Here's a like to the spec: | 14:51 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263898 | 14:51 |
| carl_baldwin | Is there anything else for this meeting? Our time is getting short. | 14:52 |
| carl_baldwin | I'll be honest, I've had a lot of time off since two weeks ago and I haven't made much progress. | 14:52 |
| reedip__ | carl_baldwin : everyone needs a break :) | 14:53 |
| mlavalle | This discussion is what I wanted to trigger yesterday when I asked jay to review the spec, especially the 'algorithm'. So, I guess I can claim 'mission acomplished' | 14:53 |
| carl_baldwin | I'll update both specs to freshen them up today. Then, I'll visit the patches already in flight. | 14:53 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: :) | 14:53 |
| xiaohhui | I have a short chat with Russlle today. We are starting some work for routed network in ovs-ovn and networking-ovn | 14:53 |
| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: Anything to bring up? | 14:54 |
| carl_baldwin | All, I'd like to get this wrapped up: | 14:54 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242393 | 14:54 |
| xiaohhui | The work is to bring the bridge-mapping to ovn. It is not supported yet. | 14:55 |
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| xiaohhui | yeah, I think that patch should have a quick update, many patches depends on it | 14:56 |
| carl_baldwin | I just put a note on it that we should rename the table in that patch. Anyone willing to take that on? | 14:56 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: in Rochester you and I talked about the 1 to 1 relationship between segment and a physical network, at least in the context of routed networks | 14:57 |
| mlavalle | I made that assumption here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285548 | 14:57 |
| xiaohhui | Can we do it in a following patch? I think that was the dicussion in the patch. | 14:57 |
| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: After reading other comments, I don't see the benefit of doing the rename is a follow-up patch. It just leaves things in an awkward intermediate state. | 14:58 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: I can do it, if nobody else steps up | 14:58 |
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| carl_baldwin | Avoiding a migration in this patch, to me, isn't a really compelling reason to not do it. | 14:58 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: You got time? | 14:59 |
| xiaohhui | hmmm, I am OK with that. I can also do that, but I will take vocation in the rest days of this week. | 14:59 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: yes | 14:59 |
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| EmilienM | hello | 15:00 |
| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: thanks for offering. enjoy your vacation. | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | we probably have to quit now | 15:00 |
| carl_baldwin | Sorry. meeting's over. | 15:00 |
| carl_baldwin | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 22 15:00:27 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_routed_networks/2016/neutron_routed_networks.2016-03-22-14.01.html | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | mlavalle, carl_baldwin: thx! | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_routed_networks/2016/neutron_routed_networks.2016-03-22-14.01.txt | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_routed_networks/2016/neutron_routed_networks.2016-03-22-14.01.log.html | 15:00 |
| carl_baldwin | We can finish up in the neutron room. | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | #startmeeting puppet-openstack | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 22 15:00:43 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'puppet_openstack' | 15:00 |
| iberezovskiy | hi | 15:00 |
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| EmilienM | #link agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-weekly-meeting-20160322 | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | hey EmilienM :-) | 15:00 |
| chem | o/ | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | o/ | 15:00 |
| iurygregory | o/ | 15:00 |
| mwhahaha | hi | 15:00 |
| degorenko | o/ | 15:00 |
| bkero | o/ | 15:01 |
| skolekonov | hi | 15:01 |
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| EmilienM | #topic Review past actions items | 15:02 |
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| EmilienM | mfisch to create openstack_extras::repo::tesora | 15:02 |
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| _ody | o/ | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | mfisch: should we postpone it? | 15:02 |
| mfisch | hey | 15:02 |
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| mfisch | yes this is like a "sometime this year" activity, I just wanted to get opinions | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | ah cool | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | chem move normalize_ip_for_uri to puppetlabs-stdlib and support array <- done by EmilienM in puppet-stdlib | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | I don't think stdlib got a release recently, so we still need to use openstacklib | 15:03 |
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| EmilienM | https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetlabs-stdlib/releases | 15:03 |
| chem | hum .... so we should backport this one | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | Hunner, _ody: do you guys know if stdlib plan to release soon? | 15:03 |
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| EmilienM | chem: backport what? | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | and where? | 15:04 |
| _ody | EmilienM: I'll find out. I do know the release schedule off the top of my head. | 15:04 |
| chem | EmilienM: the patch you've included in stdlib foripv6 (I'm looking) | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | _ody: cool, thanks! not really urgent, just a nice to have | 15:04 |
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| EmilienM | chem: we'll likely do it in Newton | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | but no backport I think | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | EmilienM to write release notes with reno for our modules -> DONE | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | EmilienM to follow-up on ML about reno & releases -> postponed after release | 15:05 |
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| chem | EmilienM: so I'm talking about https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetlabs-stdlib/commit/0378336f9cefea65675d03f1d7107c75cb950fb6 | 15:05 |
| chem | EmilienM: in openstack_lib | 15:05 |
| chem | puppet-openstacklib | 15:06 |
| EmilienM | chem: right, once stdlib got a release in Puppetlabs, we'll update openstacklib in Newton | 15:06 |
| EmilienM | but I don't see a need of backporting it to mitaka | 15:06 |
| EmilienM | we'll need to update metadata.json in puppet-nova and puppet-glance, maybe more and our Puppetfile in openstack-integration | 15:07 |
| chem | EmilienM: oki, so we keep normalize_ip_for_uri but I should change the interface to have array as well | 15:07 |
| chem | EmilienM: to ease the transition afterward | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | chem: yeah, if you plan to fix it, please patch both repos | 15:08 |
| EmilienM | so we ensure a good transition | 15:08 |
| chem | stdlib one is supporting array already | 15:08 |
| chem | sorry nope ... | 15:08 |
| EmilienM | chem: let's catchup later | 15:08 |
| chem | ack | 15:08 |
| EmilienM | #action EmilienM & chem work on normalize_ip_for_uri function | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | #topic Austin Summit | 15:09 |
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| EmilienM | #link austin summit etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-design-puppet | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | I started this etherpad, please add your name if you plan to attend it | 15:10 |
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| EmilienM | I also initiated 3 topics, but feel free to add more | 15:10 |
| EmilienM | it can be blueprints, discussions, etc. It's really open | 15:10 |
| EmilienM | is someone interested to lead Community session? we have half-day for that | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | I remember Puppetlabs helping in the past | 15:11 |
| xarses | something like that | 15:12 |
| _ody | happy to lead something if slots are needed | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | _ody: great, we can use this etherpad to gather topics from our community | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | _ody: the audience is usually more users/operators | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | _ody: so you might want to start a thread on operators mailing list | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | I would be happy to see operators coming and ask for features, reporting issues or just asking for informations | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | _ody: we can follow-up on that together if you want | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | any questions about summit or feedback? | 15:14 |
| _ody | Sounds good. | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | great | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | #action _ody to initiate email on operators mailing list about Austin summit | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | #topic release status | 15:15 |
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| EmilienM | so I finished the release notes last week, thanks a lot to degorenko and mwhahaha (+ others) for their reviews | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | this week I'm doing branching | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | I already released puppet-openstack_spec_helper | 15:16 |
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| EmilienM | today I'm trying to release puppet-aodh so this week I can continue with other modules | 15:16 |
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| EmilienM | we bumped our CI today, to latest Mitaka, and all runs fine | 15:16 |
| mfisch | +1 | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | so we should release Mitaka the same day as other projects | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | if nothing breaks in the meantime :-) | 15:17 |
| degorenko | great :) | 15:17 |
| mfisch | thats pretty awesome, we've never done that before | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | I've 2 things to mention : | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | 1/ please do not merge critical patches this week and if any doubt, please ask on irc | 15:18 |
| xarses | :) | 15:18 |
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| EmilienM | 2/ to core reviewers and others: please use release notes when you can. I told it to mfisch for his recent patches but we need to spread the word | 15:18 |
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| EmilienM | I won't -1 someone who miss it but gently let a comment for next time | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | openstack/nova is doing a great job at it | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | and I think release notes will really help our operators, specially when they upgrade | 15:19 |
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| mfisch | I think the relnotes are a good idea | 15:19 |
| mfisch | the error messages from jenkins suck however | 15:20 |
| _ody | I'd actually prefer a -1. It is a new habit and I pay attention most to -1 and prodding in IRC. | 15:20 |
| EmilienM | that's true, sphinx is not helping | 15:20 |
| mfisch | I'm okay with -1 for no relnotes | 15:20 |
| EmilienM | _ody: I would like educational -1 | 15:20 |
| EmilienM | we don't want to frustrate our contributors | 15:20 |
| EmilienM | but rather help them to write better patches | 15:21 |
| _ody | Core -1 core? | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | I would -1 a core | 15:21 |
| mfisch | well the cores could help them write the notes or point at examples? | 15:21 |
| iberezovskiy | is it documented somewhere? the link could help | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | but I won't -1 someone not core | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | #link help about reno http://docs.openstack.org/developer/reno/usage.html | 15:21 |
| iberezovskiy | thanks | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | do we agree on -1 each others (between core) if reno is missing? | 15:21 |
| chem | +1 | 15:22 |
| EmilienM | and not -1 contribors not core, so we don't frustrate them, and rather educate them | 15:22 |
| mwhahaha | sure | 15:22 |
| _ody | Yeah. | 15:22 |
| EmilienM | cool | 15:22 |
| EmilienM | I'll send an email this week about it | 15:22 |
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| EmilienM | #action EmilienM to send email about release notes (postponed action from last week) | 15:23 |
| EmilienM | any question/feedback about mitaka release? | 15:23 |
| EmilienM | #topic Prefecting user and user_roles resources with domain-specific | 15:24 |
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| EmilienM | degorenko, chem: o/ | 15:24 |
| degorenko | hey :) | 15:24 |
| chem | well this problem has been recurring since age and I think we should tackle it onec and for all | 15:24 |
| degorenko | +1 | 15:24 |
| chem | this consist in disabling prefetching in user and keystone_user_role | 15:25 |
| chem | as it seems the best course of action | 15:25 |
| xarses | I'd like to also point out the performance issue / failures when using prefetch with a LDAP provider that may have thousands or tens of thousands of users | 15:25 |
| chem | and using some kind of caching for keystone_user_role | 15:25 |
| degorenko | disabling prefetching and moving this functionaly to exists? for example | 15:25 |
| degorenko | functionality* | 15:26 |
| chem | yep, that seems like the only way to support ldap AD | 15:26 |
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| xarses | and other ldap's besides AD | 15:26 |
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| xarses | at least AD supports paging, I just found out some dont | 15:26 |
| degorenko | yeah, from exists? we can use all passed to provider properties (including specified domain) | 15:27 |
| chem | from exists we query only one specific user | 15:27 |
| degorenko | if it exists | 15:27 |
| chem | so no problem, and we use caching to avoid too many queries | 15:27 |
| degorenko | yes, and cache data will be updated on create/destroy/update actions | 15:28 |
| chem | the patch would be two things: setup an ldap server in the beaker test and add the necessary code | 15:28 |
| _ody | Skipping beaker and going directly to puppet-openstack-integration scenarios is probably find too. | 15:29 |
| chem | I can throw in a first review for it before next week and see from there | 15:29 |
| EmilienM | which module? https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetlabs-ldap ? | 15:29 |
| EmilienM | https://github.com/camptocamp/puppet-openldap sounds better | 15:30 |
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| chem | not sure which one, didn't review any yet | 15:30 |
| EmilienM | ok | 15:30 |
| _ody | puppetlabs-ldap is only client, not required for keystone. | 15:30 |
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| degorenko | i'm not sure why we need to test ldap on beaker, we can easily create two testing domains and that's it | 15:30 |
| EmilienM | I suggest we first fix the case where ldap is not run | 15:31 |
| EmilienM | degorenko: right | 15:31 |
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| EmilienM | we can add ldap later, in the next iteration | 15:31 |
| chem | oki | 15:31 |
| xarses | thats what I was thinking | 15:31 |
| degorenko | +1 for ldap in next iteration | 15:32 |
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| chem | just that this "failing test" is recurring as well and I though two birds with one stone, but you're rigth, let's not mix them | 15:32 |
| degorenko | you can create additional domain in beaker and then create user for them | 15:32 |
| degorenko | and i guess, will be better, if user for additional domain will be present in default domain | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | degorenko: yes, let's do it | 15:33 |
| degorenko | in such way we will be sure that everything works fine | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | and after that: ldap | 15:33 |
| degorenko | :) | 15:33 |
| chem | degorenko: we already have multiple domain but same backend, no ? | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | we could have beaker coverage, as usual but also scenario00X testing ldap too | 15:33 |
| degorenko | chem, i thought yes | 15:33 |
| chem | so multiple domaind and mulitple backend is the thing to add | 15:34 |
| EmilienM | our mfisch third party CI will be very happy to see ldap testing in our scenarios :-P | 15:34 |
| chem | can we add another mysql backend ? | 15:34 |
| degorenko | we can add just another backend | 15:35 |
| * Hunner is late. I'll get a stdlib release scheduled | 15:35 | |
| EmilienM | Hunner: please ping me when it's done so we update our modules | 15:35 |
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| chem | If it's not ldap it's sql, so we have to have "two backends" in one mysql ? | 15:35 |
| EmilienM | it sounds very tricky | 15:36 |
| chem | anyway let's continue this discussion in #puppet-openstack :) | 15:36 |
| degorenko | hm, yes, sounds tricky | 15:36 |
| chem | ldap :) | 15:37 |
| EmilienM | ok | 15:37 |
| mfisch | EmilienM: lol | 15:37 |
| chem | (not that I'm found of it , hé ) | 15:37 |
| EmilienM | #action degorenko / chem to follow-up domain-specific testing with multi backends | 15:37 |
| mfisch | you could do 2 mysql backends | 15:37 |
| chem | on one mysql instance ? | 15:37 |
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| iurygregory | the support is for only one mysql i think | 15:38 |
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| chem | I think test shouldn't be corner use case ... let's use the "normal" use case | 15:39 |
| EmilienM | maybe we can fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/puppet-keystone/+bug/1554555 first | 15:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1554555 in puppet-keystone "openstack cli provider needs to pass domain in v3 calls" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Matthew J Black (mjblack) | 15:39 |
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| EmilienM | and look at testing afterwards? | 15:40 |
| degorenko | sounds reasonable | 15:40 |
| EmilienM | I'm not sure having multiple mysql backends is what we want, but I might be wrong | 15:40 |
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| EmilienM | can we follow-up later? | 15:40 |
| chem | yep | 15:41 |
| EmilienM | #topic Backports to stable/mitaka branch | 15:41 |
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| EmilienM | iberezovskiy: o/ | 15:41 |
| iberezovskiy | hey | 15:41 |
| iberezovskiy | so we should get stable/mitaka branches soon and I wannt to clarify several realted questions. | 15:41 |
| iberezovskiy | first one is: what's actual criteria for backporting patches to stable/mitaka? | 15:41 |
| iberezovskiy | e.g. if patch is fixing a bug, what priority should have a bug to be allowed for backport? | 15:41 |
| EmilienM | until now, we never had strong criteria | 15:41 |
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| EmilienM | we use to backport bugfixes all the time | 15:42 |
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| EmilienM | for features, it depends, if you don't touch break backward compatibility, that should be fine | 15:42 |
| iberezovskiy | and what about patches like this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293524/ (just an example) | 15:42 |
| EmilienM | also CI needs to pass | 15:42 |
| iberezovskiy | It supports Mitaka functionaltiy. the patches like this are really important but it's huge enough :) how should we deal with them? | 15:42 |
| EmilienM | this one is huge | 15:43 |
| EmilienM | it's an experimental thing in Glance | 15:43 |
| iberezovskiy | yep, but it's important for Mitaka | 15:43 |
| degorenko | there is nothing backward incompatible | 15:43 |
| degorenko | just fyi :D | 15:43 |
| EmilienM | but looking at it, it does not break anything in existing manifests | 15:43 |
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| EmilienM | this is new things so yeah, why not | 15:43 |
| iberezovskiy | so, one of the *requirements* is do not break backward compatibility? | 15:44 |
| EmilienM | in case of glare, as long functional tests pass, that's ok | 15:44 |
| iberezovskiy | cool, I don't expect new patches like this | 15:44 |
| iberezovskiy | but who knows :) | 15:44 |
| EmilienM | iberezovskiy: yeah, stable branches need to stay stable, so no interface change, etc | 15:44 |
| degorenko | for glare we just need fixed openstack-glance package in RDO :) it's akready fixed, waiting for reop | 15:44 |
| degorenko | repo* | 15:44 |
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| EmilienM | degorenko: do we need to promote again? | 15:44 |
| degorenko | EmilienM, hm, i don't now actually | 15:45 |
| EmilienM | degorenko: i'll take care of it | 15:45 |
| degorenko | EmilienM, here is commit https://github.com/openstack-packages/glance/commit/e12615dc970760ed9ecd8b2455673139648b7beb | 15:45 |
| EmilienM | #action EmilienM to promote RDO repos to have Glance Glare fixed | 15:45 |
| EmilienM | degorenko: will do today | 15:45 |
| degorenko | it's about ~6 hours ago | 15:45 |
| degorenko | thanks a lot :) | 15:45 |
| EmilienM | yeah? we promoted today already | 15:45 |
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| EmilienM | degorenko: I rebased your patch | 15:45 |
| EmilienM | to see if it pass now | 15:46 |
| degorenko | sooo, i can recheck \o/ | 15:46 |
| EmilienM | #undo | 15:46 |
| degorenko | ok, good :) | 15:46 |
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| EmilienM | maybe we need more documentation about backports | 15:46 |
| EmilienM | I'll create a wiki page and anyone in our group will be able to contribute | 15:46 |
| iberezovskiy | good idea | 15:46 |
| degorenko | i guess, also we need coordinate with rdo team for such changes. I found similar bug yesterday, but they didn't add me review :( and i found one more bug today, with same error :D | 15:46 |
| EmilienM | #action EmilienM to create Wiki page for Puppet backports | 15:46 |
| EmilienM | #topic Puppet4 | 15:47 |
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| iberezovskiy | thanks, it'll be really useful | 15:47 |
| EmilienM | _ody: o/ | 15:47 |
| EmilienM | _ody wrote me in PM, he's afk now. so I'll update from what I know | 15:47 |
| _ody | I am back for a moment. I'll need to step away soon. | 15:48 |
| EmilienM | #link puppet4 patches https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:puppet4 | 15:48 |
| EmilienM | we might want to land https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294838/ | 15:48 |
| EmilienM | so we don't have to rebase patches that aim to fix puppet4 stuffs | 15:48 |
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| EmilienM | _ody is currently working on fixing puppet-nova for puppet4: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294841/ | 15:49 |
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| EmilienM | _ody: do we have more blockers for puppet4? | 15:49 |
| _ody | Thank you mjblack for catching other module issues on puppet4 | 15:49 |
| EmilienM | and another blocker for puppet-keystone: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293551/ | 15:49 |
| EmilienM | are we aware about more issues? | 15:49 |
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| EmilienM | I'll kick of a CI run with both patches this week and continue the debug | 15:50 |
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| mjblack | _ody: np, just reporting back issues that I see :) | 15:50 |
| EmilienM | _ody: if you know more, please let us know and kick off patches in Gerrit so we know | 15:50 |
| _ody | Catalog run order and containment changed in puppet 4, I am going through puppet-openstack-integration scenarios one by one to identify the issues. | 15:50 |
| EmilienM | mhh | 15:51 |
| EmilienM | that's very tough for backward compatibility | 15:51 |
| _ody | It just means we have to be very strict about various dependencies. | 15:51 |
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| _ody | Default run order changed it all, relationships still work the same. | 15:52 |
| bkero | Does that mean explicit ordering? | 15:52 |
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| bkero | Class[things1] -> Class[thing2] etc? | 15:53 |
| _ody | bkero: It means explicit ordering is more important because we are supporting both Puppet 3 and 4. | 15:53 |
| EmilienM | _ody: can we list blockers here ? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet4 | 15:53 |
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| _ody | Sure. | 15:53 |
| _ody | Ok. Need to help kid again. afk. | 15:53 |
| EmilienM | #link puppet4 blockers https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet4 | 15:54 |
| EmilienM | _ody: cool. | 15:54 |
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| EmilienM | #topic Open Discussion, Bug and Review triage (submit modules to triage here) | 15:54 |
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| EmilienM | we have 5 min, so please go ahead if you have any feedback/question/bug/review/joke to share | 15:54 |
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| EmilienM | I'll close the meeting in 30s if nothing comes up :-) | 15:56 |
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| EmilienM | have a good week folks! | 15:57 |
| EmilienM | #endmeeting | 15:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 22 15:57:25 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-03-22-15.00.html | 15:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-03-22-15.00.txt | 15:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-03-22-15.00.log.html | 15:57 |
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| bkero | THanks everyone! | 15:59 |
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| dougwig | o/ kosmos | 16:00 |
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| markus_z | #startmeeting nova-bugs-team | 17:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 22 17:59:37 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markus_z. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova-bugs-team)" | 17:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_bugs_team' | 17:59 |
| auggy | o/ | 17:59 |
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| markus_z | So, anyone around? | 17:59 |
| markus_z | hey auggy, how are you? | 17:59 |
| auggy | hey! good, how are you? | 18:00 |
| mriedem | o/ | 18:00 |
| auggy | mriedem is the bug skimming master | 18:00 |
| markus_z | I'm fine thanks | 18:00 |
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| markus_z | I would wait a minute if someone else joins | 18:00 |
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| markus_z | hm, yeah, that won't happen right now | 18:01 |
| markus_z | maybe next week when the asia friendly time slot will happen | 18:01 |
| markus_z | #link http://45.55.105.55:8082/bugs-dashboard.html | 18:01 |
| auggy | just us 'mericans | 18:01 |
| auggy | and one deutscher | 18:02 |
| markus_z | ^ that's a thing which pre-filters most of the stuff which needs cleanup | 18:02 |
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| auggy | wow that list has gone down a lot! | 18:02 |
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| markus_z | any open questions so far from anyone? | 18:02 |
| mriedem | i haven't gone through that before | 18:02 |
| auggy | mriedem: i think the other week was the last time i touched it when i was bugging y'all about 500 day old bugs | 18:03 |
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| mriedem | it looks pretty self-explanatory | 18:03 |
| mriedem | nice descriptions on each tab | 18:03 |
| markus_z | mriedem: needs a bit fine-tuning. I do that at the weekend | 18:03 |
| auggy | markus_z: that's really nice, thanks for putting that together | 18:04 |
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| auggy | such a fancy UI! | 18:04 |
| markus_z | I'm going through the old wishlist in the next weeks because of http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/089365.html | 18:04 |
| * auggy doesn't say that sarcastically | 18:04 | |
| markus_z | jquery-ui <= fancy :) | 18:04 |
| auggy | markus_z: yeah i saw that thread on the ML | 18:04 |
| auggy | is there anything we can do to help out? | 18:05 |
| auggy | i'm happy to work on some of those as well if we have a canned response or an example somewhere of how you were envisioning handling those | 18:05 |
| mriedem | markus_z: i'll be raising http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/089365.html in the ops meeting agenda tomorrow at 1900 UTC | 18:05 |
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| mriedem | thanks for starting that | 18:05 |
| markus_z | auggy: I would use that statement here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BugTriage#Task_9:_Deprecate_old_wishlist_bugs_.28bug_supervisors.29 | 18:06 |
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| markus_z | mriedem: yep, thanks for pushing there. I still writing an answer for the ops ML thread | 18:06 |
| markus_z | *I'm | 18:06 |
| auggy | awesome | 18:07 |
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| markus_z | There is one bug report about the behavior of the nova CLI, let me check the number | 18:09 |
| markus_z | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-novaclient/+bug/1557888 | 18:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1557888 in python-novaclient "Nova CLI - No message on nova-agent deletion" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to Preeti (pandey-preeti1) | 18:09 |
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| markus_z | auggy: You wanted to get some hands on with the client AFAIR? | 18:10 |
| auggy | markus_z: yeah, does this one need attention? | 18:11 |
| markus_z | auggy: If you find time, would you start a ML how such things should be handled? | 18:11 |
| auggy | markus_z: yeah sure! i can do that | 18:11 |
| markus_z | yep, needs consensus | 18:11 |
| markus_z | cool, thanks! | 18:11 |
| auggy | i'll work on that today | 18:11 |
| * auggy adds it to her trello board | 18:12 | |
| markus_z | mriedem: wrt to the wishlist thing, do you need more info from me for that? | 18:12 |
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| mriedem | markus_z: no | 18:12 |
| mriedem | i commented on that agent cli bug above | 18:12 |
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| markus_z | thanks. | 18:13 |
| mriedem | easy answer is invalidate it and tell them the cli is deprecated in favor of python-openstackclient, | 18:13 |
| mriedem | and i'm sure osc has rules about message verbosity etc | 18:13 |
| auggy | yeah, i was thinking the same thing, what is the openstackclient doing | 18:13 |
| mriedem | having said that, there is probably no agent cli support in osc for compute | 18:13 |
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| markus_z | mriedem: oh, my assumption was the os client just makes a passthrough | 18:13 |
| mriedem | but this is supposed to be the kind of thing that drives people to work on feature parity in osc | 18:13 |
| mriedem | markus_z: nope | 18:14 |
| mriedem | osc has it's own cli, | 18:14 |
| mriedem | it uses the python APIs from the other clients though | 18:14 |
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| markus_z | ah, good to know. | 18:14 |
| markus_z | ok, if no questions are open, let's wrap up. I use the rest of the time for the cleanup dashboard and put a note in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-bugs-team which one I'm working one to avoid overlap | 18:15 |
| mriedem | wfm | 18:16 |
| auggy | kk | 18:16 |
| markus_z | cool, thanks for your time | 18:16 |
| markus_z | #endmeeting | 18:16 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 22 18:16:36 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:16 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_bugs_team/2016/nova_bugs_team.2016-03-22-17.59.html | 18:16 |
| auggy | markus_z: thanks!! | 18:16 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_bugs_team/2016/nova_bugs_team.2016-03-22-17.59.txt | 18:16 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_bugs_team/2016/nova_bugs_team.2016-03-22-17.59.log.html | 18:16 |
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