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| alex_xu | #startmeeting nova api | 13:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 16 13:00:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova api)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_api' | 13:00 |
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| alex_xu | who is here today? | 13:00 |
| gmann_ | hi | 13:00 |
| jichen | o/ | 13:00 |
| cdent | o/ | 13:00 |
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| alex_xu | hello everyone, hope this new time is good for everyone | 13:01 |
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| alex_xu | I guess it's still a little early for ken'ichi | 13:02 |
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| gmann_ | yea, little bit late but its fine. | 13:02 |
| sdague | o/ did not have this in my normal irc list | 13:02 |
| alex_xu | gmann_: thanks :) | 13:02 |
| alex_xu | sdague: yea, that channel should be used by other team | 13:03 |
| gmann_ | humm | 13:03 |
| alex_xu | anyway let's run the meeting | 13:03 |
| alex_xu | #topic Nova Microversion testing in Tempest | 13:03 |
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| alex_xu | gmann_: your turn | 13:03 |
| gmann_ | alex_xu: yea, | 13:03 |
| gmann_ | so only 1 patch left for framework side | 13:04 |
| gmann_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284414/ | 13:04 |
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| gmann_ | sdague: if you can have look, Kenichi has +2 on that | 13:04 |
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| gmann_ | after that lib has all interface and all compute service client support of microverstion setting | 13:05 |
| sdague | gmann_: I'll put it on the list, I'm chugging through some docs things at this point | 13:05 |
| gmann_ | sdague: sure, thanks | 13:05 |
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| gmann_ | sdague: also this one v2.20 - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258391/ | 13:05 |
| gmann_ | others are doc things etc which can be reviewed later | 13:06 |
| gmann_ | That's all from my side | 13:06 |
| alex_xu | gmann_: thanks for the work! | 13:06 |
| gmann_ | np :) | 13:06 |
| gmann_ | alex_xu: it will be nice if you review this one - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/261426/6 | 13:07 |
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| gmann_ | will get if anything missed or more details needs there | 13:07 |
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| alex_xu | gmann_: yea, will review it | 13:08 |
| gmann_ | alex_xu: Thanks | 13:08 |
| alex_xu | gmann_: np | 13:08 |
| alex_xu | #topic open | 13:08 |
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| oomichi_ | gmann_: thanks, I missed that | 13:08 |
| alex_xu | oomichi_: good morning :) | 13:08 |
| gmann_ | oomichi_: Thanks, please check, and this too https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258391/ | 13:09 |
| oomichi_ | alex_xu: hi, morning | 13:09 |
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| sdague | FYI I started looking at the api-site, and the path forward there | 13:09 |
| oomichi_ | :) | 13:09 |
| gmann_ | oomichi_: other are already reviewed by you. | 13:09 |
| oomichi_ | gmann_: ok, I got it | 13:09 |
| sdague | and I'm not convinced that the swagger path is going to get us anywhere useful anytime soon | 13:09 |
| Kevin_Zheng | already open? | 13:09 |
| alex_xu | sdague: I saw one patch about doc, but not sure what is the final goal | 13:09 |
| sdague | alex_xu: right now, this is experimentation | 13:09 |
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| gmann_ | sdague: alex_xu we want to have version vise doc right | 13:10 |
| sdague | because the amount of tooling and extensions we're going to have to write around swagger basically means we're 1 to 2 years away from an API site based on that | 13:10 |
| sdague | if ever | 13:10 |
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| sdague | and what would it look like to go to RST as our master format instead | 13:10 |
| alex_xu | sdague: actually I take look at fair-slipper, looks like it didn't used in the real world, so it worth to worry about | 13:11 |
| sdague | right, and fairy-slipper isn't really a swagger parser | 13:11 |
| sdague | it takes one particular yaml subset of swagger and makes a thing | 13:11 |
| sdague | also, swagger doesn't really map to our APIs, because it has a very specific representation expectation | 13:12 |
| sdague | which... if we were starting from scratch, I'd totally be fore | 13:12 |
| sdague | but we're not | 13:12 |
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| sdague | it's a tool that's really designed to be used in the design stage of an API to make a good API | 13:12 |
| alex_xu | sdague: for microversion and action, maybe we can use extend swagger to support that, as swagger support some kind of extend. | 13:13 |
| sdague | alex_xu: then we're writing 100% our own tools for transform | 13:13 |
| sdague | so the answer is, do we have 4 to 5 engineers to just maintain a swagger toolchain? | 13:13 |
| oomichi_ | sdague: that is a reason why we need to apply swagger without changing current nova code, right? | 13:13 |
| alex_xu | sdague: good point, that is true | 13:13 |
| cdent | s/good API/API/ | 13:13 |
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| sdague | oomichi_: here are the problems as I see them | 13:14 |
| oomichi_ | sdague: so it is necessary to create swager doc from current code without changing | 13:14 |
| sdague | oomichi_: that's not possible | 13:14 |
| sdague | or, more importantly, that's extremely hard | 13:14 |
| oomichi_ | sdague: ah, I see your poing | 13:15 |
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| oomichi_ | s/poing/point/ | 13:15 |
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| gmann_ | oomichi_: sdague with existing code and doc string etc, it would have much result doc | 13:15 |
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| sdague | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-site-in-rst | 13:15 |
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| oomichi_ | yeah, current api design is too nova specific on some apis | 13:15 |
| sdague | gmann_: it's not even that, have you looked at the way request body is modeled? | 13:16 |
| sdague | my top concern is the following | 13:16 |
| gmann_ | sdague: humm, one example i saw where it adds param and type etc not whole body | 13:17 |
| sdague | 1) the api-site is very wrong and very confusing, and being in wadl with a toolchain no one understands, is very hard to fix | 13:17 |
| sdague | we need to solve docs to our users as a top priority | 13:17 |
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| sdague | anyway, this week is a week of experimenting about other ways forward | 13:18 |
| sdague | for me | 13:18 |
| sdague | annegentle is on vacation, we were going to sync back up when she gets back to figure out what the options look like | 13:19 |
| sdague | because people have been saying swagger since... 2013... ? | 13:19 |
| sdague | and we're effectively no where still | 13:19 |
| cdent | sdague: I think it is wrong to suggest that the delay there is because of swagger | 13:19 |
| cdent | the delay is because of humans | 13:19 |
| sdague | cdent: sure | 13:20 |
| cdent | (which is not to say that going rst is wrong) | 13:20 |
| sdague | cdent: if you think you have an approach that gets us there with swagger in the next cycle, I'm happy to hear about it | 13:20 |
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| sdague | but in reading the swagger spec, looking at the ecosystem of tools, I don't see that happening for 2 - 4 cycles in the best case | 13:21 |
| * cdent nods | 13:21 | |
| sdague | it's also amazing in reading our api docs to do this reformating, how inaccurate they are :( | 13:22 |
| alex_xu | looks like we also need some tool to translate to rst also. | 13:23 |
| sdague | but maybe that would be more fixable if it was easier for people to see what it looks like | 13:23 |
| sdague | alex_xu: yeh, annegentle has some bits of that | 13:23 |
| sdague | https://github.com/annegentle/wadl2rst | 13:23 |
| sdague | anyway, this was mostly an FYI that an experiment is ongoing | 13:23 |
| alex_xu | ah, cool | 13:23 |
| sdague | no decisions are made at this point | 13:23 |
| sdague | I figured I need to at least hand convert all the methods on /servers/ to get a feel for what this would be | 13:24 |
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| sdague | and in doing the process a bunch of interesting ideas on how we might have some structured data has emerged | 13:24 |
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| sdague | will hopefully have more data in a week | 13:25 |
| cdent | sdague: I suspect you are already on this, but please try to avoid reinventing swagger, raml, etc :) | 13:25 |
| sdague | cdent: sure | 13:26 |
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| sdague | but part of it is about scope to completion | 13:26 |
| alex_xu | except doc, anymore expectation on swagger for us? | 13:26 |
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| sdague | if we can get to an rst base, with a plug point for structured data | 13:26 |
| sdague | we can start with something a bit quick and dirty to build tables | 13:27 |
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| sdague | and then swap out with something more standardized later | 13:27 |
| sdague | once we can see the whole publish workflow | 13:27 |
| gmann_ | sdague: if you need any help on some experiments, please let us know, we can give some TZ advantage here. | 13:27 |
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| sdague | gmann_: sure, right now I need to just figure out some working patterns | 13:29 |
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| gmann_ | sdague: ok. | 13:29 |
| sdague | I expect whenever we come up with a repeatable pattern, no matter what it is, we'll need a lot of hands to do some of the cleanups, as any of the translations are only 90% | 13:29 |
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| sdague | all from me for now | 13:30 |
| alex_xu | yea, let's see more, hope we can resolve this problem in newton, as our api version is 2.25 now | 13:30 |
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| oomichi_ | ok, I'd like to try digging swagger thing in this 2 weeks with some actual prototype | 13:31 |
| * alex_xu happy to help on both side :) | 13:31 | |
| oomichi_ | with reviewing doc patches | 13:32 |
| sdague | oomichi_: ok, I didn't see a path forward for lots of our constructs in Nova | 13:32 |
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| oomichi_ | sdague: yeah, I am feeling now that is difficult. | 13:33 |
| sdague | and, again, realize that these tools were meant to be part of the design process. And when they are, the results are good | 13:33 |
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| sdague | but trying to adhoc apply them later, is really hard, if not impossible | 13:33 |
| alex_xu | actually I think swagger will be interface between nova and doc team | 13:34 |
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| oomichi_ | sdague: yeah, and nova api itself is also adohoc. very inconsistent | 13:34 |
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| sdague | alex_xu: why do you think that? | 13:34 |
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| sdague | that somewhat assumes that swagger is a familar common language to both sides and the easiest way to communicate | 13:35 |
| alex_xu | sdague: I thought there will be some UI, like fairy-flipper doing. But if rst is easy to public the api site, then I think rst will probably good way for now | 13:35 |
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| sdague | and I'm not sure any of that was true | 13:36 |
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| oomichi_ | alex_xu: yeah, I also am feeling. swagger will be good to create api-site automatically from the nova code to doc team | 13:37 |
| oomichi_ | that is just a hope | 13:37 |
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| oomichi_ | and just experimental | 13:37 |
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| alex_xu | oomichi_: yeah, but more worry about the progress of swagger support in doc team. | 13:38 |
| alex_xu | anyway let us dig into more, then revisit this problem | 13:38 |
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| oomichi_ | alex_xu: yeah, it is nice to make the problems appear cleary | 13:39 |
| alex_xu | so anymore open today? | 13:39 |
| Kevin_Zheng | I have one | 13:39 |
| alex_xu | Kevin_Zheng: please go ahead | 13:40 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/juno/implemented/user-defined-shutdown.html | 13:40 |
| Kevin_Zheng | we found this | 13:40 |
| Kevin_Zheng | about user defined shutdown | 13:40 |
| sdague | Kevin_Zheng: I was pretty sure we always sent the graceful shutdown now | 13:40 |
| sdague | I was looking in that code the other day | 13:41 |
| Kevin_Zheng | yes I mean | 13:41 |
| alex_xu | I guess most of part are implement, except api bit | 13:41 |
| Kevin_Zheng | yes | 13:41 |
| Kevin_Zheng | so we want to continue the API job | 13:41 |
| Kevin_Zheng | already contacted the author | 13:41 |
| sdague | Kevin_Zheng: well, I think DELETE already does this now, no? | 13:41 |
| Kevin_Zheng | he have no time so I will do it | 13:42 |
| Kevin_Zheng | yes I think he finish the delete, reboot job | 13:42 |
| sdague | Kevin_Zheng: ok, I think we need a new spec now though, because I'm pretty sure that libvirt *always* sends the graceful shutdown to the domain | 13:42 |
| alex_xu | sdague: agree | 13:42 |
| Kevin_Zheng | just want to now if anyone are against this now | 13:42 |
| sdague | Kevin_Zheng: so what are you proposing exactly? | 13:43 |
| Kevin_Zheng | user can define graceful or hard | 13:43 |
| Kevin_Zheng | like this | 13:43 |
| Kevin_Zheng | like soft reboot and hard rebbot | 13:43 |
| Kevin_Zheng | reboot | 13:43 |
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| sdague | ok, I'm not convinced the API as written there is the thing we want, lets start a new spec on this | 13:44 |
| alex_xu | I only remember there is image properties to set this. | 13:44 |
| Kevin_Zheng | OK, I will do that | 13:44 |
| sdague | and do the analysis about how this all works today | 13:44 |
| Kevin_Zheng | sure | 13:45 |
| sdague | and which operations are really needed here | 13:45 |
| sdague | I can see reboot for sure | 13:45 |
| Kevin_Zheng | sure | 13:45 |
| Kevin_Zheng | thanks | 13:45 |
| alex_xu | sdague: +1, actually I'm not sure delete do that | 13:45 |
| Kevin_Zheng | I will put out some details next time | 13:45 |
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| sdague | alex_xu: right, I could also see a force DELETE that bypasses the graceful shutdown | 13:46 |
| alex_xu | ok, any open today? | 13:46 |
| jichen | when will we talk about https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-api-ideas ? in the summit ? | 13:46 |
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| alex_xu | actually we talk about api doc today | 13:47 |
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| alex_xu | how about we talk each item next week? | 13:48 |
| sdague | sounds good | 13:48 |
| jichen | yeah, I just want to know when we will talk and won't miss it | 13:48 |
| jichen | :) | 13:48 |
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| alex_xu | yea, cool | 13:49 |
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| alex_xu | so any more open today? | 13:49 |
| alex_xu | if not, we will close the meeting a little early | 13:49 |
| alex_xu | 3... | 13:50 |
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| alex_xu | 2.. | 13:50 |
| alex_xu | 1. | 13:50 |
| alex_xu | ok, thanks for all! | 13:50 |
| jichen | thanks~ | 13:50 |
| gmann_ | Thanks all | 13:50 |
| * auggy just caught the tail end!! | 13:50 | |
| oomichi_ | thanks | 13:50 |
| alex_xu | #endmeeting | 13:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 16 13:50:41 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-03-16-13.00.html | 13:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-03-16-13.00.txt | 13:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2016/nova_api.2016-03-16-13.00.log.html | 13:50 |
| alex_xu | auggy: :) | 13:50 |
| auggy | alex_xu: i think i confused the meeting time when i translated the UTC time | 13:51 |
| auggy | oh well next time :) | 13:51 |
| alex_xu | auggy: it's worth try this website http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html, I like this tool | 13:51 |
| auggy | alex_xu: yeah i just put it in my calendar as UTC time, i thought it was 1400 not 1300 :) | 13:52 |
| alex_xu | auggy: :) | 13:53 |
| auggy | alright see you all next time at 1300 ;) | 13:53 |
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| jichen | oomichi: hi, do you have time to talk about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288153/, you are 'gray' on #openstack-nova :) | 13:54 |
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| acabot | #startmeeting watcher | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 16 14:00:18 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is acabot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| dtardivel | hi | 14:00 |
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| acabot | hi | 14:00 |
| alexchadin | Hi! | 14:00 |
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| gzhai | hello | 14:01 |
| acabot | our agenda for today #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#03.2F16.2F2016 | 14:01 |
| vincentfrancoise | o/ | 14:01 |
| sballe_ | morning | 14:01 |
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| acabot | #topic Annoucements | 14:02 |
| brunograz | hi | 14:02 |
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| acabot | #topic Announcements | 14:02 |
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| acabot | #info PTL election is now open to candidacy on the ML | 14:03 |
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| acabot | candidacy will end tomorrow | 14:03 |
| sballe_ | one quick tpic. I am looking into the meetup in July and it will probably be in Hillsboro, OR. ~ 20 mins from POrtland | 14:03 |
| sballe_ | I cannot host it in the Intel MA facility | 14:04 |
| acabot | #info mid-cycle meetup for Newton will probably be in Hillsboro, OR. ~ 20 mins from POrtland | 14:04 |
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| gzhai | In july? | 14:04 |
| acabot | sballe_ : is it still an Intel building in Hillsboro ? | 14:04 |
| sballe_ | yes | 14:05 |
| sballe_ | it is a large site with most of our OpeSNtack activities there | 14:05 |
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| acabot | gzhai : mid-cycle is planned for week 30 | 14:05 |
| gzhai | acabot:got it | 14:05 |
| acabot | sballe_ : can we already fix the dates ? | 14:05 |
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| sballe_ | no. also if we do it week 30 I won;t be able to attend given that I am going on vacation that weekend | 14:06 |
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| sballe_ | but I am tryign for week 30 and week 29 | 14:07 |
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| acabot | sballe_: ok | 14:07 |
| sballe_ | let's see what they tell me | 14:07 |
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| acabot | #action sballe_ ask for meeting room for the Newton mid-cycle | 14:08 |
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| tkaczynski | sballe_: it would be a weird meeting without you, our host :) | 14:08 |
| sballe_ | lol | 14:08 |
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| sballe_ | I would find somebody t take over ;) | 14:08 |
| gzhai | +1 | 14:09 |
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| acabot | #info sballe_ shared a first draft of slides for our talk in Austin #link https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1xzuIgmvRXiwTxv4R0al8DZoFd7u6OA6hx6aUrid7JPw/edit?usp=sharing | 14:09 |
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| acabot | feel free to add comments on the slideset, its open to editing | 14:09 |
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| acabot | any other announcement ? | 14:09 |
| acabot | #topic Review action items | 14:10 |
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| acabot | #info we have many specs open that needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/watcher-specs+is:open | 14:10 |
| acabot | sballe_ : we need to work on it asap as its becoming a bottleneck for the dev team | 14:11 |
| dtardivel | review on #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287019/ done. tpeoples will propose another patch tomorrow | 14:12 |
| acabot | some of them are targeted for RC-1 and RC-final and we wont be able to handle them if specs are not reviewed | 14:12 |
| sballe_ | I can work on some today. I looked at it last weekend | 14:12 |
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| acabot | #action sballe_ jwcroppe acabot review open specs https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/watcher-specs+is:open | 14:13 |
| tkaczynski | I can also have a look at some specs | 14:13 |
| seanmurphy | i can review a couple | 14:13 |
| seanmurphy | by EOW | 14:13 |
| acabot | #action stkaczynski seanmurphy review open specs https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/watcher-specs+is:open | 14:14 |
| acabot | thx you guys | 14:14 |
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| seanmurphy | i will take https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286153/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287019/ | 14:15 |
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| acabot | alexchadin : sorry for giving you late feedback, we will give more by EOW | 14:15 |
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| alexchadin | Nothing to worry, I'm still waiting for your feedback:) | 14:15 |
| sballe_ | Is http://review.penstack.org/#/c/275474 also in need of a review? or it is too low in the priority list? | 14:16 |
| acabot | #info workload balance migration strategy spec has been merged and code is already available for review (thank you gzhai) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292188/ | 14:16 |
| sballe_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275474/ | 14:16 |
| tkaczynski | fyi: I updated the spec for scoring module, would appreciate the feedback | 14:17 |
| acabot | sballe_: you are right, it's low in the priority list | 14:18 |
| sballe_ | ok will review today | 14:18 |
| acabot | sballe_: you can skip it | 14:18 |
| jed56 | tkaczynski i will sorry for the delay | 14:18 |
| sballe_ | ok thx | 14:18 |
| tkaczynski | jed56 no worries, I made some good number of changes anyway. so it's a good moment to start :) | 14:19 |
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| jed56 | great thanks | 14:19 |
| dtardivel | tkaczynski: I will review it also | 14:19 |
| acabot | #info on Watcher code, vincentfrancoise & dtardivel have implemented the purge DB command | 14:19 |
| acabot | #action jed56 dtardivel review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289880/ | 14:20 |
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| acabot | online doc has not been updated yet | 14:20 |
| acabot | and we have 2 strategies submited by gzhai & brunograz open to reviews | 14:21 |
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| vincentfrancoise | acabot: I am currently reviewing the PS of brunograz | 14:22 |
| acabot | #action vincentfrancoise review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289259/ | 14:22 |
| acabot | #topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion | 14:23 |
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| acabot | #info RC-1 is targeted for March 18th #link https://launchpad.net/watcher/+milestone/mitaka-rc-1 | 14:23 |
| acabot | I think its time to postpone some BPs | 14:23 |
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| acabot | and bugs that cannot be fixed until friday | 14:24 |
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| acabot | gzhai : any update on the threshold implementation ? | 14:24 |
| gzhai | acabot:I'm in debuging. | 14:25 |
| acabot | ok so could you set it as "started" ? | 14:25 |
| gzhai | acabot:sure. | 14:25 |
| acabot | #action gzhai set https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/optimization-threshold as started | 14:26 |
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| dtardivel | acabot: we received a new pathset from global requirement team one hour ago. We should work on it in priority | 14:26 |
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| acabot | #action dtardivel work on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293432/ | 14:27 |
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| acabot | regarding the filtering of hosts for live migration, specs are in review so I will set it to rc-final | 14:28 |
| dtardivel | acabot: we have 4 bug patchsets on review. Work on them also in priority before to introduce new ones ... | 14:29 |
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| acabot | seanmurphy brunograz: we will try to merge your strategy for rc-1 | 14:29 |
| seanmurphy | cool - thanks! | 14:29 |
| brunograz | +1 | 14:30 |
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| vtech | +1000 | 14:30 |
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| gzhai | acabot: how about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292188/? | 14:30 |
| acabot | gzhai: I will set the threshold BP target to rc-final (as the code is not ready yet) | 14:30 |
| gzhai | acabot: ok. | 14:31 |
| acabot | gzhai : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292188/ will be reviewed by the dev team asap | 14:31 |
| gzhai | it should be ready soon. | 14:31 |
| gzhai | acabot: thanks! | 14:31 |
| acabot | #action dtardivel jed56 vincentfrancoise review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292188/? | 14:32 |
| acabot | #action dtardivel jed56 vincentfrancoise review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292188/ | 14:32 |
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| acabot | any other thing to discuss in BPs and bugs ? | 14:33 |
| acabot | #topic Open Discussion | 14:33 |
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| acabot | I'd like to share with you good practices on Launchpad | 14:34 |
| sballe_ | +1 | 14:34 |
| acabot | just to check that we are all clear about them | 14:34 |
| seanmurphy | +1 | 14:35 |
| gzhai | +1 | 14:35 |
| acabot | regarding BPs #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher | 14:35 |
| acabot | we will use the "design" field as this | 14:35 |
| acabot | "approved" the BP has been discussed and specs are merged | 14:35 |
| acabot | "Drafting" BP description has been reviewed, specs are needed and currently in review | 14:36 |
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| acabot | "Discussion" BP description has been reviewed and needs improvements | 14:37 |
| tkaczynski | acabot sounds good | 14:37 |
| sballe_ | I just wanted to thank gzhai for giving a watcher presentation at the The 3rd China OpenStack Bug Smash. I am told he did a great job and it was well received. | 14:37 |
| acabot | "New" BP description submited but not reviewed yet | 14:37 |
| seanmurphy | who sets this - the author of the bp? | 14:37 |
| acabot | seanmurphy : I will if you dont mind | 14:37 |
| seanmurphy | of course not - it was just a q of where responsibility lies | 14:38 |
| gzhai | sballe_: thank you. | 14:38 |
| acabot | regarding bugs | 14:38 |
| acabot | we will use the status "triaged" as a bug that can be taken by a developer | 14:38 |
| vincentfrancoise | sballe_: +1 | 14:38 |
| acabot | so please do not take a bug in "new" state" | 14:39 |
| acabot | as sometimes we dont want to fix it | 14:39 |
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| acabot | I will update the contrib doc accordingly | 14:39 |
| jed56 | gzhai great job | 14:40 |
| acabot | everyone clear with these rules ? | 14:40 |
| sballe_ | acabot: +1 | 14:40 |
| gzhai | acabot: +1 | 14:40 |
| vincentfrancoise | sounds good to me | 14:40 |
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| jed56 | acabot+³1 | 14:40 |
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| brunograz | acabot: +1 | 14:40 |
| acabot | #action acabot update the contrib doc with status for BPs & bugs | 14:40 |
| gzhai | acabot: if I report one bug, need wait for 'triage' state before fix? | 14:40 |
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| acabot | gzhai : yes please | 14:40 |
| gzhai | acabot:ok | 14:41 |
| acabot | gzhai : of course you can ask for a quick status on our irc channel | 14:41 |
| dtardivel | acabot: "triaged" means that we accept the bug and we can reproduce it ? | 14:41 |
| seanmurphy | rules sound good +1 | 14:41 |
| acabot | dtardivel : triaged means "we need to fix it", we can then set it to "confirmed" if someone reproduce it | 14:41 |
| sballe_ | acabot: did you submit the brown bag for Watche | 14:42 |
| jed56 | who is in charge of change the state to triage ? | 14:42 |
| acabot | who wants to be the Watcher bug triager ? | 14:42 |
| jed56 | :) | 14:42 |
| acabot | sballe_: no I didn't, I will look at it asap | 14:42 |
| vincentfrancoise | I don't mind being one | 14:42 |
| sballe_ | acabot: thx | 14:43 |
| jed56 | IMHO, any core contributor | 14:43 |
| acabot | #action acabot submit Watcher presentation to brown bag | 14:43 |
| vincentfrancoise | jed56: +1 | 14:43 |
| hvprash | acabot: for reviewing any bugs or specs, is this something we need to agree upon in meetings or am i free to go ahead an review ? | 14:43 |
| dtardivel | acabot: normally, it is the responsibility of the watcher drivers team, as explained on lauchpad | 14:43 |
| acabot | what about every core contributor do 1 time per week ? | 14:44 |
| acabot | hvprash: reviews are open to everyone so feel free to do it | 14:44 |
| dtardivel | "What is a project driver?: The project driver is a person or team who is responsible for setting the direction for the project. The driver can set goals, approve bug targeting, or set backporting for any major series in the project. Alternatively, you can chose to leave the project driver unset and appoint a team for each series." | 14:44 |
| hvprash | cool, thx :) was trying to understand the ettiquete | 14:44 |
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| dtardivel | acabot: I can do the triage | 14:45 |
| acabot | #action dtardivel act as Watcher bug triager for mitaka release | 14:45 |
| sballe_ | dtardivel: +100 | 14:45 |
| vincentfrancoise | like dtardivel said, I guess it should be anyone in the watcher team on launchpad | 14:46 |
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| gzhai | dtardivel: +1000 | 14:46 |
| vincentfrancoise | just that a single bug cannot be reported and riged by the same person | 14:46 |
| dtardivel | thanks :) | 14:46 |
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| vincentfrancoise | triged* | 14:46 |
| vincentfrancoise | triaged* | 14:46 |
| acabot | lets dtardivel do it until the summit, then we will decide to do another way | 14:46 |
| tkaczynski | acabot +1 | 14:47 |
| vincentfrancoise | +1 | 14:47 |
| sballe_ | +1 | 14:47 |
| acabot | gzhai : thx for promoting Watcher last week | 14:47 |
| acabot | gzhai : did you get some feedback ? | 14:47 |
| gzhai | acabot: yes. some company show interest in watcher | 14:48 |
| gzhai | ZTE are interested in it. | 14:48 |
| gzhai | Don't know if they are here:) | 14:48 |
| jinquan | like me*^_^* | 14:48 |
| acabot | I saw that someone from ZTE took a BP https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/efficacy-indicator | 14:48 |
| acabot | hello jinquan | 14:48 |
| gzhai | jinquan: welcome. | 14:49 |
| jinquan | I am come from eZTE | 14:49 |
| sballe_ | hi jinquan welcome | 14:49 |
| jinquan | thanks | 14:49 |
| jed56 | welcome | 14:49 |
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| jinquan | I read the rst today | 14:49 |
| gzhai | ZTE have some requirements for watcher: | 14:49 |
| gzhai | strategy to offline percentage or number of nodes. | 14:49 |
| gzhai | automatic execute action plan. Add a parameter when create audit, so it's automatic. | 14:49 |
| jinquan | an setup the develop environment | 14:49 |
| gzhai | one goal multiple strategy. | 14:49 |
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| gzhai | I know we have considered some of them. | 14:50 |
| acabot | right | 14:50 |
| jed56 | what do you mean by multiple strategies ? | 14:50 |
| gzhai | jed56: one goal can have different strategies. | 14:50 |
| gzhai | e.g. some aggresive then others | 14:50 |
| jinquan | I am chat on mobilephone reply maybe slow | 14:51 |
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| gzhai | I'm heard this in future plan. | 14:51 |
| acabot | vmahe is working on it | 14:51 |
| vmahe | I'm currently writing the spec explaining how goals will be returned by strategies | 14:51 |
| vmahe | using a common base class | 14:51 |
| jed56 | :) | 14:51 |
| gzhai | acabot:great! | 14:51 |
| vincentfrancoise | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/get-goal-from-strategy | 14:51 |
| vmahe | it will also be possible to get the list of available strategies for a given goal | 14:52 |
| acabot | jinquan : do you plan to write specs on efficacy indicators ? | 14:52 |
| acabot | jinquan : or to implement as soon as specs will be merged ? | 14:53 |
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| jinquan | I plan to write but maybe I need sometime learn watcher | 14:54 |
| acabot | because there are specs open right now https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283449/ | 14:54 |
| jinquan | I read it already | 14:54 |
| acabot | the best would be to review the specs right now | 14:54 |
| acabot | if ZTE has an interest on it | 14:55 |
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| acabot | or work with vmahe regarding multiple strategies per goal | 14:55 |
| acabot | 5 minutes left | 14:55 |
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| acabot | our tempest gate is still not working | 14:55 |
| acabot | the multi-node environment | 14:56 |
| acabot | and it does not seems to be a high priority in the infra team | 14:56 |
| acabot | does anyone knows how we can make it happen ? | 14:56 |
| vincentfrancoise | FYI, I asked the infra team a couple of days ago about this problem ... and no one answered | 14:57 |
| acabot | sballe_: any contact on the infra team that could help us ? | 14:57 |
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| jinquan | um， I will review the specs on efficacy indicators | 14:58 |
| acabot | today we have no solution to test a live migration on the gate | 14:58 |
| sballe_ | we could contact monty | 14:58 |
| vincentfrancoise | so basically I will push a PS onto openstack-infra/devstack-gate to add an extra env variable which would then allow us to fix the shell script used to run our tempest gate job in openstack-infra/project-config | 14:58 |
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| acabot | #action jinquan review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283449/ | 14:58 |
| sballe_ | I would ask mordred | 14:58 |
| jinquan | OK | 14:58 |
| acabot | #action vincentfrancoise push a PS onto openstack-infra/devstack-gate to add an extra env variable which would then allow us to fix the shell script used to run our tempest gate job in openstack-infra/project-config | 14:58 |
| dtardivel | brunograz: I did some comments about terms used in source code which are not correct | 14:59 |
| acabot | #action sballe_ ask monty for helping us based on this PS | 14:59 |
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| sballe_ | What the PS? | 15:00 |
| acabot | I will have to close the meeting, dtardivel brunograz, please continue on openstack-watcher channel | 15:00 |
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| acabot | sballe_ : the PS from vincentfrancoise | 15:00 |
| vincentfrancoise | by | 15:00 |
| jinquan | I read irc log ，somethin will discuss at austin？ | 15:00 |
| dtardivel | bye | 15:00 |
| acabot | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 16 15:00:32 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-03-16-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| gzhai | bye | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-03-16-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-03-16-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
| jinquan | bye | 15:00 |
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| rockyg | is it time for low_wg? | 21:03 |
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| rockyg | or did I miss it? | 21:03 |
| rockyg | log_wg... | 21:04 |
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| jokke_ | 2205 | 21:06 |
| rockyg | Thanks, jokke_ | 21:06 |
| rockyg | #startmeeting log_wg | 21:06 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 16 21:06:38 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rockyg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: log_wg)" | 21:06 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'log_wg' | 21:06 |
| jokke_ | rockyg: so missed by 2hrs | 21:07 |
| rockyg | ARRRHHHHHHHgggggggHHHHHH! | 21:07 |
| rockyg | #endmeeting | 21:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Launchpad OpenID SSO is currently experiencing issues preventing login. The Launchpad team is working on the issue" | 21:07 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 16 21:07:39 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:07 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/log_wg/2016/log_wg.2016-03-16-21.06.html | 21:07 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/log_wg/2016/log_wg.2016-03-16-21.06.txt | 21:07 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/log_wg/2016/log_wg.2016-03-16-21.06.log.html | 21:07 |
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| vhosakot | o/ | 22:01 |
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| SamYaple | vhosakot: o/ | 22:02 |
| SamYaple | ;) | 22:02 |
| vhosakot | haha | 22:02 |
| vhosakot | see you in a bit :) | 22:02 |
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| sdake | #startmeeting kolla | 23:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 16 23:00:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sdake. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 23:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 23:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 23:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 23:00 |
| sdake | #topic rollcall | 23:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 23:00 | |
| SamYaple | o/ | 23:00 |
| asalkeld | o/ | 23:00 |
| sdake | \o/ jumps for joy | 23:00 |
| pbourke-pub | o/ | 23:00 |
| SamYaple | pbourke-pub: lol | 23:00 |
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| mandre | o/ | 23:00 |
| pbourke-pub | Aw yis | 23:00 |
| vhosakot | o/ | 23:00 |
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| rhallisey | hello | 23:01 |
| ntpttr | hi o/ | 23:01 |
| Jeffrey4l | 0/ | 23:01 |
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| sdake | #topic announcements | 23:02 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 23:02 | |
| akwasnie | o/ | 23:02 |
| SamYaple | too late akwasnie no rollcall for you | 23:02 |
| sdake | rc1 is tagging tomorrow morning | 23:02 |
| sdake | i'd like to get the bug tracker into decent shape today during our meeting as a result | 23:02 |
| sdake | specifically the blueprints section | 23:03 |
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| sdake | thats my end of announcements | 23:03 |
| sdake | anyone have anything from the community? | 23:03 |
| SamYaple | there is one needed patchset for rc1 | 23:03 |
| SamYaple | the lights out mariadb | 23:03 |
| SamYaple | thats part of the upgrade stuff | 23:03 |
| dave-mccowan | o/ | 23:03 |
| SamYaple | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293161/ | 23:03 |
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| inc0 | o/ | 23:04 |
| sdake | inc0 would you midn reviewing that plz | 23:04 |
| sdake | or some other core would do as well :) | 23:04 |
| inc0 | I just joined, link plz | 23:04 |
| inc0 | and sorry | 23:04 |
| SamYaple | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293161/ | 23:04 |
| inc0 | thanks | 23:04 |
| sdake | #topic liberty backport status | 23:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "liberty backport status (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 23:05 | |
| sdake | I'd like to ask all core reviewers to spend 1 hour reviewing sam's 3 patches for liberty backports | 23:05 |
| sdake | i'd like the entire team to review them | 23:05 |
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| sdake | to provide sam with appropriate feedback | 23:06 |
| asalkeld | links? | 23:06 |
| sdake | the status is the backports can't really be done by more then one person | 23:06 |
| SamYaple | it shouldnt take near 1 hour | 23:06 |
| sdake | but the reviews can be done by our entire team | 23:06 |
| SamYaple | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278621/ | 23:06 |
| sdake | SamYaple yes i know, I was asking for the most time it could possibley take ;) | 23:06 |
| sdake | there are 3 patches in that stream | 23:06 |
| SamYaple | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285731/ | 23:06 |
| SamYaple | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285733 | 23:06 |
| sdake | we are approving patches even if they are not green in the gate | 23:06 |
| sdake | the goal is the last patch in the stream will make the gate green | 23:07 |
| akwasnie | ok, will do | 23:07 |
| sdake | our deadline for this work is april 1st | 23:07 |
| SamYaple | i have blocked off the first patch so feel free to +2+W | 23:07 |
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| sdake | please keep that stream on your active review every day watchlist | 23:07 |
| sdake | our stable branch is charlie foxtrott echo delta atm | 23:07 |
| sdake | lets make it work well | 23:07 |
| sdake | any questions? | 23:07 |
| inc0 | cfed? | 23:08 |
| sdake | inc0 if you can't figure it out, i'm not going to swear in public :) | 23:08 |
| inc0 | I have my theories | 23:08 |
| sdake | any other questions? | 23:08 |
| sdake | this and releasing mitaka are our highest priorities atm :) | 23:09 |
| sdake | lets focus on them | 23:09 |
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| sdake | on to the next part then | 23:09 |
| sdake | #topic Mitaka rc1 blueprint review to close out the release [timebox 10 minutes] | 23:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Mitaka rc1 blueprint review to close out the release [timebox 10 minutes] (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 23:09 | |
| sdake | #link https://launchpad.net/kolla/+milestone/mitaka-rc1 | 23:10 |
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| sdake | SamYaple mariadb upgrade is in needs review, or did that merge? | 23:10 |
| sdake | SamYaple mariadb is in needs review? | 23:10 |
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| sdake | inc0 playbook for rabbitmq | 23:11 |
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| sdake | upgrade playbook that is | 23:11 |
| SamYaple | mariadb upgrade is done, mostly just need https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293161/ | 23:11 |
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| inc0 | we need deploy with hostnames | 23:11 |
| inc0 | will work on this tomorrow | 23:11 |
| sdake | inc0 ok i'll push that to rc2 then | 23:11 |
| inc0 | after that its few lines of change | 23:11 |
| inc0 | ok | 23:11 |
| vhosakot | I see both reconfig and upgrade not implemented for elasticsearch service. Can I go ahead and open a bug and implement them ? | 23:12 |
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| sdake | vhosakot feel free | 23:12 |
| inc0 | vhosakot, it's lower priority but if you can pull that off | 23:12 |
| inc0 | would be nice | 23:12 |
| sdake | dave-mccowan fernet tokens? | 23:12 |
| vhosakot | cool | 23:12 |
| sdake | good progress, started, needs code review? | 23:12 |
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| dave-mccowan | good progress. do we want them for mitaka? i can finish the patch i started, leaving rotation as an operator task. | 23:13 |
| sdake | dave-mccowan yes wnated for mitaka - its in the rc tracker linked above | 23:13 |
| SamYaple | sdake: no its not wanted for mitaka | 23:13 |
| SamYaple | its a big feature which does alot of things | 23:14 |
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| SamYaple | thigns we dont do esleshere yet... | 23:14 |
| inc0 | I kinda agree with Sam, we're in rc's now | 23:14 |
| inc0 | but let's have patch in queue | 23:14 |
| SamYaple | exactly | 23:14 |
| inc0 | worst case scenerio we'll have it early newton | 23:14 |
| inc0 | which isn't bad as well | 23:14 |
| SamYaple | the WIP went into queue AFTER_rc_ | 23:14 |
| sdake | the feature was in the tracker prior to rc | 23:15 |
| SamYaple | it was in prior to liberty | 23:15 |
| sdake | nobody complaned then | 23:15 |
| SamYaple | i did | 23:15 |
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| sdake | vote it is | 23:15 |
| sdake | i'll send a mail to the mailing list on the topic | 23:16 |
| SamYaple | im -2 here. do you know whats involved in this? | 23:16 |
| SamYaple | the patch isnt even ready | 23:16 |
| sdake | dave-mccowan coudl you add more context please? | 23:16 |
| SamYaple | it requires new .py files in containers | 23:16 |
| sdake | dave-mccowan is the patch disruptive? | 23:17 |
| sdake | the problem here is the feature is a high priority item | 23:17 |
| SamYaple | it was high priority in liberty as well | 23:17 |
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| sdake | it wasn't submitted in liberty until the rcs started | 23:18 |
| inc0 | can we see what's involved and possibly add backport potential? | 23:18 |
| SamYaple | the fact is the work isnt done and it wasnt started until we were in the RCs | 23:18 |
| inc0 | I hate to put that much of a time pressure on both Dave and reviewers | 23:18 |
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| SamYaple | sdake: i said before he started this is too mcuh for an RC | 23:18 |
| dave-mccowan | i have WIP posted, but it needs more work. it would be optional and non-disruptive, but unlikely to be 100% correct by rc1. it would be nice as a backport, if that was possible. | 23:18 |
| sdake | well i'd be willing to compromise with inc0's proposl | 23:18 |
| sdake | proposal | 23:19 |
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| SamYaple | so you want an exception sdake? | 23:19 |
| inc0 | let's have it implemented and consider backport then | 23:19 |
| sdake | no, a vote on the mailing lsit about yet another backport | 23:19 |
| dave-mccowan | could we commit the config parameters, and then implementation goes in as backport (if operators request it) | 23:19 |
| sdake | because we have let the genie out of that bottle | 23:19 |
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| SamYaple | not for mitaka | 23:19 |
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| SamYaple | this is your doing now. this isnt how you build a stable branch | 23:19 |
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| inc0 | guys, please, let's just carry on | 23:20 |
| SamYaple | yea | 23:20 |
| SamYaple | ML | 23:20 |
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| sdake | pbourke-pub oracle linux gates | 23:20 |
| inc0 | when Dave finishes implementation we'll consider it | 23:20 |
| inc0 | now it's hollow discussion | 23:20 |
| sdake | pbourke-pub i'm going to punt the mediums to newton | 23:20 |
| sdake | so if your finished by tomorrow morning, wfm ;) | 23:21 |
| sdake | otherwise please feel free to move the blueprint to newton | 23:21 |
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| sdake | pbourke my apologies its a high priority | 23:21 |
| sdake | well we will carry that over to rc2 looks like | 23:21 |
| sdake | the mediums are getting punted | 23:21 |
| sdake | any Q&A? | 23:22 |
| sdake | #topic Mitaka rc1 release announcement [timebox 15 minutes] | 23:22 |
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| sdake | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/announce-kolla-mitaka-rc1 | 23:22 |
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| sdake | 40 after we have to craft our rc1 release announcement | 23:23 |
| sdake | please clicky the linky | 23:23 |
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| asalkeld | sdake: is this for all of mitaka or just since m3? | 23:26 |
| sdake | just since m3 | 23:26 |
| asalkeld | ok | 23:27 |
| sdake | any notable features people want to mention? | 23:27 |
| sdake | that were bugs | 23:27 |
| vhosakot | few droproot bugs were fixed | 23:27 |
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| sbezverk | sdake what about ipc host support ;-) ? | 23:29 |
| sdake | sbezverk anyone is free to edit this etherpad | 23:29 |
| sdake | please feel free to add your items | 23:29 |
| vhosakot | some nice bugs were fixed about OVS and manila as well | 23:30 |
| sdake | so just sdake and asalkeld aren't writing the release notes | 23:30 |
| sdake | vhosakot pelase add them :) | 23:30 |
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| vhosakot | SamYaple: isn't "Use nopreempt for keepalived" worth mentioning ? | 23:33 |
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| SamYaple | vhosakot: it would have been in reno stuff, so i suppose it could go here | 23:34 |
| SamYaple | though reno isnt dont every rc | 23:34 |
| vhosakot | cool | 23:34 |
| SamYaple | i dont realyl know why we are making this announcement | 23:34 |
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| sdake | SamYaple we always make release announcements | 23:35 |
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| SamYaple | i know | 23:36 |
| sdake | once we have reno we won't do this anymore | 23:36 |
| SamYaple | reno doesnt do this | 23:36 |
| sdake | enjoy it while it lasts :) | 23:36 |
| SamYaple | everyone typically just says rc1 is availbable | 23:36 |
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| vhosakot | well, I have seen features and bug-fixes mentioned in RC's.. | 23:37 |
| sdake | t-2 minutes for additions | 23:38 |
| SamYaple | vhosakot: sure, a feature/bug maybe. but really most just announce rc1 availablilty | 23:39 |
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| sdake | #topic Kibana dashboard integration | 23:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Kibana dashboard integration (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 23:40 | |
| sdake | rajathagasthya all yours | 23:40 |
| sdake | and akwasnie | 23:40 |
| sdake | and elemoine | 23:40 |
| sdake | 12 minutes max plz :) | 23:40 |
| inc0 | not very good time for both of them;) | 23:41 |
| inc0 | I think its 1am in Poland now | 23:41 |
| sdake | inc0 she said hello earlier | 23:41 |
| akwasnie | so we could base on fuel plugin idea | 23:41 |
| akwasnie | but they use curl to put kibana dasboard json into elasticsearch | 23:42 |
| rajathagasthya | Thanks sdake. I'd like to know how to get started with integrating the custom Kibana dashboard to v4. I've done that with v3, but in a different way than what Fuel plugin does. | 23:42 |
| akwasnie | inc0: yes it is almost 1 am:) | 23:42 |
| sdake | so curl - are there problems with this approach akwasnie ? | 23:42 |
| SamYaple | rajathagasthya: wow wounds great | 23:42 |
| SamYaple | rajathagasthya: so logs would be viewable by admin in horizon? | 23:43 |
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| sdake | no but there would be a proper dashboard in kibana | 23:43 |
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| vhosakot | akwasnie: will this patch set I'm working on affect Kibana dashboard work ? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291986/ | 23:43 |
| sdake | where none exists today | 23:43 |
| rajathagasthya | SamYaple: No, logs would be viewable in a separate Kibana dashboard. | 23:43 |
| rajathagasthya | No idea how to integrate it with Horizon. | 23:43 |
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| inc0 | no horizon will ever be involved | 23:43 |
| inc0 | even if that would be possible I'm -2 | 23:44 |
| inc0 | and it's not so I don't need to be -2 | 23:44 |
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| SamYaple | inc0: wait why? | 23:44 |
| sdake | before we tlak about nuclear optoins | 23:44 |
| SamYaple | it is possible | 23:44 |
| sdake | lets discuss the problems with curl ;-) | 23:44 |
| akwasnie | vhosakot: it shouldn't | 23:44 |
| inc0 | kibana itself is much more powerful and pretty than horizon | 23:45 |
| rajathagasthya | akwasnie: The way we did it for Kibana 3 was just to replace it's default.json with the new content. Not sure if the same can be done in v4. If it can be, what do you think about that approach? | 23:45 |
| vhosakot | akwasnie: cool, that's what I thought.. I am just replacing tar with yum/apt-get packages in Dockerfile.. thanks for confirming | 23:45 |
| SamYaple | inc0: we can talk later thats apparently not the purpose of this topic | 23:45 |
| sdake | the purpose of this topic is to discuss making the custom json dashboard for kibana | 23:46 |
| sdake | to help support akwasnie elemoine inc0 in their summit talk | 23:46 |
| akwasnie | rajathagasthya: but replace how? copy file into container? | 23:46 |
| rajathagasthya | akwasnie: Yep. | 23:46 |
| inc0 | akwasnie, elemoine http://docs.ansible.com/ansible/uri_module.html | 23:47 |
| akwasnie | rajathagasthya: into kibana? | 23:47 |
| inc0 | let's just use ansible and make one call | 23:47 |
| inc0 | it can be done by post-deploy | 23:47 |
| rajathagasthya | akwasnie: Right. Into Kibana container. That becomes the default dashboard. | 23:47 |
| akwasnie | aren't dashboards stored in elasticsearch? | 23:47 |
| rajathagasthya | akwasnie: Maybe I need to check out the curl method you mentioned. | 23:47 |
| sdake | akwasnie the answer is yes that is how itshould be odne | 23:48 |
| sdake | rajathagasthya if you could link up with akwasnie and elemoine and help them with the implementation, that owuld rock | 23:48 |
| rajathagasthya | akwasnie: Hmm, I don't think so. Kibana has the dashboards and just makes API calls to ES to get the data. That's my understanding. | 23:48 |
| sdake | the idea is to get this ready to demo - but not necessarily have it merged, prior to summit | 23:48 |
| rajathagasthya | sdake - Sure, I will sync up with them. | 23:49 |
| sdake | since this is our only demo slot, we need to make it good | 23:49 |
| sdake | rajathagasthya try EU timezones :) | 23:49 |
| inc0 | but instead of curl let's use this pretty, well defined ansible module | 23:49 |
| inc0 | and make it part of play | 23:49 |
| rajathagasthya | sdake - Got it. :) | 23:49 |
| akwasnie | rajathagasthya: as far as I know elasticsearch keeps dashboards | 23:49 |
| sdake | inc0 works for me | 23:49 |
| sdake | does everyone understand the goal? | 23:50 |
| sdake | 1 month to get a rockin json dashboard implemented - 3 people to work on it - should be no problem ;) | 23:50 |
| sdake | this is not part of mitaka - but part of newton | 23:50 |
| rajathagasthya | sdake - Make it 4 with nkorabli. :) | 23:51 |
| sdake | cool lets blow the audience away - diags are a hot topic in openstack these days | 23:51 |
| sdake | i want to make sure kolla is leading in this space | 23:51 |
| sdake | inc0 do you have a 60 second spiel about your and akwasnie's talk? | 23:52 |
| sdake | this is our only demo slot - lets make it count! | 23:52 |
| sdake | #topic open discussion | 23:52 |
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| inc0 | well | 23:53 |
| inc0 | I will want to show prod kolla | 23:53 |
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| vhosakot | sdake: I added my analysis for the HEAT DOA bug so it may help | 23:53 |
| Jeffrey4l | the ubuntu binary build and deploy gate https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292942/ | 23:53 |
| inc0 | and kibana running on the back | 23:53 |
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| inc0 | maybe show some actual issues and real world data | 23:53 |
| SamYaple | Jeffrey4l: please take the floor here | 23:53 |
| inc0 | basically rockin' dashboard with acutal working opnestack worth of logs | 23:54 |
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| sdake | inc0 if possible i'd like you to showcase this rockin dashboard | 23:54 |
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| akwasnie | and explain why we chose Heka, right? | 23:54 |
| Jeffrey4l | ubuntu do not have delorean style repo. But we can add it for stable branch. | 23:54 |
| inc0 | yeah, tha'ts my point, actual kibana with actual dash and actual logs in it | 23:54 |
| Jeffrey4l | which is helpful for new commits. | 23:54 |
| inc0 | and say "and btw, all you need to do to get this cool thing is to change enable_central_logging to yes" | 23:55 |
| Jeffrey4l | need some review and approve. | 23:55 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l i'll have a look | 23:55 |
| sdake | inc0 sounds great - can't wait to see that talk | 23:55 |
| SamYaple | weve only got about 3 minutes, can we talk about what we need for the ubuntu gate please | 23:56 |
| sdake | hope to see all the core reviewers there | 23:56 |
| SamYaple | basically we cant gate master, but we _can_ gate in stable, non-voting | 23:56 |
| Jeffrey4l | cool. actually, two link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292930/ for kolla, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292942/ for project config. | 23:56 |
| sdake | ok folks lets get em reviewewd | 23:56 |
| SamYaple | is everyone ok with not-gating something in master but in stable? | 23:56 |
| sdake | i'll review project config now jeffrey(at conclusion of our meeting) | 23:56 |
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| sdake | SamYaple i see no harm in a nonvoting gate of any type even if they are inconsistent, as long as they can be maintained long term | 23:57 |
| SamYaple | well our first integration will be on stable branch | 23:58 |
| SamYaple | as-in it may be broken first stable | 23:58 |
| SamYaple | thats the problem | 23:58 |
| sdake | as long s project-config is non-voting i think that is probably ok | 23:59 |
| sdake | it will help us shake out bugs in stable related to ubuntu binary | 23:59 |
| Jeffrey4l | agreed with sdake | 23:59 |
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