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| tfukushima | #startmeeting Kuryr | 03:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 8 03:01:30 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tfukushima. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 03:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 03:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Kuryr)" | 03:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kuryr' | 03:01 |
| tfukushima | Who's up for Kuryr IRC meeting today? | 03:02 |
| baohua | morning&evening, everyone~ | 03:02 |
| baohua | hi tfukushima | 03:02 |
| banix | o/ | 03:02 |
| fawadkhaliq | evening | 03:02 |
| fawadkhaliq | o/ | 03:02 |
| tfukushima | #info baohua, banix, fawadkhaliq and tfukushima are present | 03:03 |
| tfukushima | #link Today's agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Kuryr#Meeting_March_8.2C_2016 | 03:03 |
| tfukushima | Ok, let's get started. | 03:04 |
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| tfukushima | #topic Kubernetes Integration | 03:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Kubernetes Integration (Meeting topic: Kuryr)" | 03:04 | |
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| tfukushima | #link Spec proposal by irenab https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281132/ | 03:04 |
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| tfukushima | #action Everyone reviews irenab's spec proposal | 03:06 |
| fawadkhaliq | tfukushima: thanks, will do. I did a quick review early on, Will do again on the latest patch | 03:06 |
| baohua | +1, will do it | 03:06 |
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| tfukushima | Yeah, it seems to be updated recently and it'd be again, I guess. | 03:07 |
| banix | sure will do too | 03:07 |
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| tfukushima | It has the descriptions about the API watcher and the CNI driver. | 03:08 |
| banix | tfukushima: taku i hear you have a prototupe working | 03:08 |
| banix | is it along the lines being described in the spec? | 03:09 |
| tfukushima | I think I have to write the devref rather than the higher level spec. | 03:09 |
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| tfukushima | I'm playing with the apiserver of K8s. | 03:10 |
| banix | cool | 03:10 |
| tfukushima | The API allows you to get a line of JSON data when you call GET against the certain endpoint with the query string, i.e., /api/v1/pods?watch=true | 03:11 |
| tfukushima | You can see what's happening with curl. | 03:12 |
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| baohua | tfukushima is your prototype a multi-node env? | 03:12 |
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| tfukushima | At this point one master and two worker nodes. Small cluster. | 03:12 |
| banix | sounds multi-node to me :) | 03:13 |
| baohua | thanks | 03:13 |
| tfukushima | And I'm doing the api watcher-ish stuff, so only the master is my concern so far. | 03:13 |
| tfukushima | I'll push back to Kuryr updatream when it gets some shape. | 03:14 |
| tfukushima | Oh, I have a question about that. | 03:14 |
| banix | great thanks. Mike Spreitzer who dont seem to be around now is also working on a prototype | 03:14 |
| tfukushima | Nice. We might need to coordinate our tasks not to be conflicted. | 03:15 |
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| banix | i think he is doing the OTHER approach discussed for a quick short term solution but should leave it to him to describe what he has | 03:16 |
| banix | any of you going to KubeCon? | 03:16 |
| banix | in Europe? | 03:16 |
| banix | London I believe | 03:16 |
| baohua | banix possible not for me, will u go? | 03:17 |
| tfukushima | I hope I could. We'd love to see that proposal but yes, it's up to him. | 03:17 |
| banix | I am not going. Mike is going. Should let us know how things are in our next meeting hopefully | 03:18 |
| baohua | yes, that will be a nice sharing | 03:19 |
| tfukushima | Anyways, here's my question: To get a line of JSON data, I'd like to use asyncio, the async I/O library introduced in Python 3.4 not to be blocked for the next event propagation. Does it make sense to drop Python 2.6 support for that? | 03:20 |
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| banix | 2.7 you mean? | 03:21 |
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| baohua | to support curl-based api querying? | 03:21 |
| tfukushima | Yes. Python 2.x. | 03:21 |
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| tfukushima | To support better async I/O mechanisms and more features introduced only in Python 3.x. | 03:22 |
| tfukushima | curl is blocking actually, I believe. | 03:22 |
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| banix | i understand what you are saying. is the rest of kuryr ok with 3.4? | 03:23 |
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| tfukushima | There's Trollius for the equivalent but it's saying it's deprecated and recommending to move Python 3.x. | 03:23 |
| tfukushima | http://trollius.readthedocs.org/deprecated.html | 03:24 |
| banix | i know we test at gate but beyond that | 03:24 |
| baohua | a little worried not full tested yet. | 03:24 |
| tfukushima | Maybe we can separate the API watcher from the rest but it'd be a bit bothering. | 03:25 |
| tfukushima | Anyways, I'll submit the patch or something and propose this in another way as well but I wanted to know how you would feel about that. | 03:26 |
| tfukushima | #link Python3 support in OpenStack https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Python3 | 03:27 |
| tfukushima | Sorry, I took time. Let's move on to the next topic. | 03:28 |
| tfukushima | #topic Nested Containers and Magnum Integration | 03:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Nested Containers and Magnum Integration (Meeting topic: Kuryr)" | 03:28 | |
| tfukushima | fawadkhaliq: Any update? | 03:28 |
| fawadkhaliq | tfukushima: yes, the spec is in good shape | 03:29 |
| fawadkhaliq | have several +1s and a +2 | 03:29 |
| fawadkhaliq | I am hoping we merge it soon | 03:30 |
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| fawadkhaliq | And in parallel, we are planning to kick off the discussion on Kuryr Agent | 03:30 |
| fawadkhaliq | there is a separate spec for that | 03:30 |
| fawadkhaliq | that's the current update and plan moving forward. | 03:30 |
| tfukushima | Nice. I seriously should look at the spec! It's my shame. | 03:30 |
| fawadkhaliq | tfukushima: thanks | 03:31 |
| tfukushima | fawadkhaliq: BTW, have you tried Magnum? | 03:31 |
| fawadkhaliq | tfukushima: yes, I have in general usage sense | 03:32 |
| fawadkhaliq | are you referring to some specific? | 03:32 |
| fawadkhaliq | s/some/something/ | 03:32 |
| tfukushima | fawadkhaliq: My friend tried it but he told me he got stuck in the middle of creating a bay. | 03:32 |
| fawadkhaliq | tfukushima: okay, maybe he can drop an email | 03:33 |
| tfukushima | Yeah, he'd but I was just wondering how stable Magnum is now. | 03:33 |
| fawadkhaliq | tfukushima: its reasonable, the base infra has to be perfect to make it work | 03:34 |
| fawadkhaliq | tfukushima: sine Heat is invovled and sometimes Heat stacks are just stuck forever | 03:34 |
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| fawadkhaliq | and thats normally tied to the base infra | 03:35 |
| tfukushima | fawadkhaliq: I see. That makes sense. Thanks. | 03:35 |
| fawadkhaliq | tfukushima: npp | 03:35 |
| fawadkhaliq | so thats all on the nested container topic for today | 03:36 |
| tfukushima | #action Everyone review fawadkhaliq's spec again. | 03:36 |
| tfukushima | Good. | 03:36 |
| fawadkhaliq | thanks, hoping to get it merged soon. | 03:36 |
| tfukushima | #topic Existing Networks | 03:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Existing Networks (Meeting topic: Kuryr)" | 03:37 | |
| tfukushima | banix: You might want to share something about that. | 03:37 |
| banix | yes sure | 03:37 |
| banix | so the Neutron tags got merged for neutron networks | 03:37 |
| tfukushima | Yay! | 03:38 |
| banix | in that light, we can get rid of the use of neutron network names | 03:38 |
| tfukushima | Finally. | 03:38 |
| banix | yes | 03:38 |
| banix | so i have a patchset to do that. Will update it based on the comments | 03:38 |
| tfukushima | I heard you tried it and it worked? | 03:38 |
| banix | this will just change the kuryr to use tags | 03:39 |
| banix | yes it works | 03:39 |
| banix | Then I am going to update your existing network spec Taku | 03:39 |
| banix | I had made changes based on our stop-gap planning | 03:39 |
| tfukushima | banix: Yes, please. I left it forever. :-( | 03:40 |
| banix | but now, I can uodate it to use tags | 03:40 |
| tfukushima | That's sweet. | 03:40 |
| banix | tfukushima: no worries. Gal and Toni mentioned you are busy | 03:40 |
| banix | So that will get rid of the using name ugliness and add the support for existing networks in a clean way | 03:41 |
| banix | That’s all for me unless there are questions | 03:41 |
| tfukushima | Cool. | 03:42 |
| tfukushima | Ok, we shall go to the next topic. | 03:43 |
| tfukushima | #topic Packaging | 03:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Packaging (Meeting topic: Kuryr)" | 03:43 | |
| tfukushima | Actually I have no idea about the situation of the packaging. | 03:43 |
| banix | We shall leave this for next week then :) We need Toni to get the status | 03:44 |
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| tfukushima | Yeah, he should know better and I saw hi submitted a few patches. | 03:44 |
| tfukushima | #topic Fullstack and Rally integration | 03:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Fullstack and Rally integration (Meeting topic: Kuryr)" | 03:45 | |
| tfukushima | baohua: Would you like to share something? | 03:45 |
| baohua | yes | 03:45 |
| baohua | two patches under review, welcome anyone's comments, thanks! | 03:46 |
| baohua | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265105/ | 03:46 |
| baohua | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286531/ | 03:46 |
| baohua | that's it :) | 03:46 |
| baohua | tfukushima, pls go ahead :) | 03:47 |
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| tfukushima | baohua: Thanks. I have to review them. | 03:47 |
| tfukushima | #action Everyone reviews haohua's Rally tests. | 03:47 |
| tfukushima | baohua: The patch looks well documented and I like it. | 03:48 |
| baohua | thanks :) | 03:48 |
| tfukushima | Ok, let's wrap up the meeting. | 03:49 |
| tfukushima | #topic Open Discussion | 03:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Kuryr)" | 03:49 | |
| tfukushima | Does anyone have anything else to discuss? | 03:49 |
| tfukushima | banix; Oh, I submitted a patch. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289147/ | 03:50 |
| tfukushima | I'm sadly a OSX user and I wanted to run unit tests. :-p | 03:50 |
| banix | cool | 03:50 |
| banix | will have a look | 03:51 |
| tfukushima | Good. I think we can finish today's meeting. | 03:51 |
| fawadkhaliq | nothing else from my side | 03:51 |
| fawadkhaliq | yay! we save 9 min :-) | 03:52 |
| fawadkhaliq | :P | 03:52 |
| banix | thanks taku | 03:52 |
| baohua | great! thanks everyone~ | 03:52 |
| banix | and everybody :) | 03:52 |
| tfukushima | Thanks for attending, guys. | 03:52 |
| baohua | :) | 03:52 |
| fawadkhaliq | thankjs | 03:52 |
| fawadkhaliq | bye | 03:52 |
| baohua | bye | 03:52 |
| tfukushima | #endmeeting | 03:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 03:52 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 8 03:52:56 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-03-08-03.01.html | 03:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-03-08-03.01.txt | 03:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-03-08-03.01.log.html | 03:53 |
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| Shuaib | Hi, .. with reference to the 3rd point (Tacker NFV Catalog evolution (Sonata team)) in the agenda of today's Tacker meeting, please have a look at this supporting google doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SDq_ujOIPba7O7jgcecUVvUBq3D8rCgNP00PzPBMN50/edit?ts=56d5c65d# | 10:26 |
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| carl_baldwin | Hi | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | hi | 14:00 |
| reedip__ | Hello | 14:00 |
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| xiaohhui | hi | 14:00 |
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| carl_baldwin | I'm here for the routed networks meeting. Almost confused the time again somehow but I made it. | 14:00 |
| carl_baldwin | :) | 14:00 |
| carl_baldwin | #startmeeting neutron_routed_networks | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 8 14:01:09 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_routed_networks)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_routed_networks' | 14:01 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: reedip__: xiaohhui : Hi, and welcome. | 14:01 |
| reedip__ | hi carl_baldwin o/ | 14:01 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Announcements | 14:01 |
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| carl_baldwin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-Routed-Networks#Agenda | 14:01 |
| carl_baldwin | The blueprint for routed networks has been approved for Newton! | 14:02 |
| mlavalle | ++ | 14:02 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/routed-networks | 14:02 |
| reedip__ | gr8 | 14:02 |
| xiaohhui | That is great | 14:02 |
| carl_baldwin | The RFE actually had been approved by the drivers for some time | 14:02 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1458890 | 14:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1458890 in neutron "Add segment support to Neutron" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Carl Baldwin (carl-baldwin) | 14:03 |
| carl_baldwin | The spec is looking pretty good too. | 14:03 |
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| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/225384 | 14:03 |
| carl_baldwin | It might be missing some detail but I think the overall picture is good. | 14:04 |
| carl_baldwin | It is pretty cool to see the pathway forward opening up. | 14:04 |
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| xiaohhui | I went through the spec, and I agree with that | 14:04 |
| carl_baldwin | Any other announcements? | 14:04 |
| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: Thanks, I saw your review and it is very much appreciated. | 14:04 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Progress | 14:05 |
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| reedip__ | I havent seen the recent copy, will see it tomorrow morning ( its 11pm here) | 14:05 |
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| carl_baldwin | All the code should be posted to the gerrit topic | 14:05 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:bp/routed-networks | 14:05 |
| carl_baldwin | reedip__: Thanks. | 14:06 |
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| carl_baldwin | I added one more patch since last week but it is only a start. It begins to link the subnets and the segments. | 14:07 |
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| carl_baldwin | However, I needed to go back and close a few things on the segment API / CRUD patch. | 14:07 |
| carl_baldwin | First, I rebased it on top of a patch that moves the segments table out of the ML2 port of the code. That was started by gongysh . | 14:08 |
| carl_baldwin | I got that done and begin to reconcile the _db.py files from the two patches. | 14:08 |
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| carl_baldwin | So, that's where I am. I didn't get a chance to work on it at all yesterday and may not again today. :( | 14:09 |
| vikram_ | hi | 14:09 |
| vikram_ | sorry to be late | 14:09 |
| carl_baldwin | vikram_: welcome | 14:09 |
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| xiaohhui | Carl, do you need a quick patch at neutronclient for the segment CRUD? I think I can forward the request to Richard | 14:09 |
| vikram_ | I can also offer help ;) if needed | 14:09 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: as soon as I finish with the unit tests we talked about yesterday I'll rebase my patchset | 14:10 |
| reedip__ | xiaohhui :Actually I would liKe to do the NeutronClient code, if its ok :) | 14:10 |
| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: That is a good question. Someone at the Neutron mid-cycle offered to do that along with the openstack client but I haven't heard anything. | 14:10 |
| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: Right, it was Richard Theis. Do you know his nick? | 14:11 |
| reedip__ | carl_baldwin: Richard did that , as per the notes of the mid-cycle circulated by Aramando | 14:11 |
| xiaohhui | I can't get it now, but we can communicate inside IBM. | 14:11 |
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| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: Thanks, it will be nice to have a client. Currently, I'm using a generic REST client which works out nicely in the beginning but will be cumbersome in the long run. | 14:12 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: rtheis | 14:13 |
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| xiaohhui | OK, I see. I will send him a mail about it. | 14:13 |
| carl_baldwin | reedip__: Maybe you can stay in communication with xiaohhui and rtheis and pick it up if there is an issue. | 14:13 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Thanks. | 14:13 |
| vikram_ | carl_baldwin: +1.. I also believe let's have the server functionality up first.. then we can have client | 14:13 |
| reedip__ | carl_baldwin, xiaohhui: sure , thanks | 14:13 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: thanks | 14:13 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Any progress report on https://review.openstack.org/285548 ? | 14:14 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: I'll rebase it later today as soon as I finish with the unit tests for DNS | 14:15 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I had an action item to work on the host / subnet interface that I haven't followed through on yet. | 14:15 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: as you know, I had to catch up with those unit tests | 14:15 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Thanks. BTW, are those ready for review yet? | 14:15 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: they are, except for a couple of test cases for janzian changes | 14:16 |
| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin will follow through on host / subnet mapping idea (as opposed to lower level host / segment mapping only) | 14:16 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: but he needs to rebase one of his patchsets | 14:16 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: ok | 14:17 |
| carl_baldwin | #action xiaohhui will follow up with rtheis on client changes | 14:17 |
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| reedip__ | kindly keep me in the loop as well , would appreciate it | 14:18 |
| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: This host / segment mapping is relevant to OVN. It will be required of the OVN plugin to provide it through the same interface we add for the ML2 plugin. | 14:18 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: also this week I am starting lookin at deferred IP allocation | 14:19 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Good segue | 14:19 |
| xiaohhui | I will investigate it in OVN | 14:20 |
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| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: The interface is not well defined yet, maybe you could help us define that. | 14:20 |
| rtheis | hi | 14:20 |
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| carl_baldwin | rtheis: Your ears burning? | 14:20 |
| rtheis | they are :) | 14:20 |
| carl_baldwin | rtheis: We were just talking about the client changes for the segment API. | 14:21 |
| mlavalle | rtheis: Minessotta cold weather relieves that, doeesn't it? | 14:21 |
| rtheis | it does | 14:21 |
| carl_baldwin | .... which is still a bit of a WIP here: https://review.openstack.org/284440 | 14:21 |
| rtheis | carl_baldwin: Is that what I need to get started with a CLI patch | 14:21 |
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| carl_baldwin | rtheis: yes | 14:23 |
| rtheis | We need to lay some ground work to get neutronclient to function as an OSC plugin... | 14:23 |
| rtheis | I'll need to look into that so I may try putting the CLI directly in OSC to start | 14:23 |
| rtheis | I'll start working on this today | 14:24 |
| carl_baldwin | rtheis: thanks | 14:24 |
| carl_baldwin | #action rtheis to work on openstack CLI | 14:24 |
| reedip__ | rtheis, if OSC takes some time, then can we start implementing this on NeutronClient , in the meanwhile ? | 14:25 |
| reedip__ | if it is required | 14:25 |
| carl_baldwin | reedip__: I think that sounds reasonable | 14:25 |
| rtheis | reedip__: yes, that's fine | 14:26 |
| reedip__ | then I can work on that | 14:26 |
| rtheis | reedip__: thank you | 14:26 |
| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: Do you think that working on the plugin interface for mapping is something you could tackle? | 14:26 |
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| reedip__ | rtheis, carl_baldwin: great :) | 14:26 |
| xiaohhui | carl_baldwin: I think I can do that. | 14:27 |
| carl_baldwin | ... maybe working from https://review.openstack.org/285548 as a start | 14:27 |
| carl_baldwin | #action xiaohhui will work on plugin interface for host mapping | 14:27 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: back to your seque ... | 14:27 |
| carl_baldwin | I think deferred IP allocation is a very good thing to start playing with early. | 14:28 |
| mlavalle | agree | 14:28 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: What is your plan to get that started? | 14:28 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: don't have a plan yet. I'll start going back to the spec and then lookin at the relevant parts in Nova | 14:29 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I think what we really need to do is get the subnet / segment association patch to the point where IPAM actually defers allocation and see what that does with the various Nova boot use cases in the Nova spec. | 14:31 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: But, maybe you don't need all of that. | 14:32 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: I'll follow that path... But I will start lookin on the Nova side any way | 14:33 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: You can probably fake it for now by just removing the IPAM allocation until a host is know. | 14:33 |
| carl_baldwin | *known | 14:33 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I don't want to make this too dependent on other work because I think it would be good for you to start down the Nova path sooner than later. | 14:34 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: I think your point is very good. At the very least I'll keep an eye on the subnet / segment assoc patch | 14:34 |
| * carl_baldwin just thinking out loud. | 14:34 | |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: There are going to be some IPAM complications to work out with that patch which I can get started on. | 14:34 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: but yes, I think starting on Nova ASAP is paramount | 14:34 |
| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin will work on IPAM complications around subnet / segment association. Will loop in johnbelamaric . | 14:35 |
| carl_baldwin | #action mlavalle will work on deferred IP allocation as independently as possible | 14:35 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: That sound good? | 14:35 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: Yes | 14:36 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: cool | 14:36 |
| carl_baldwin | My biggest concern still lies around following Nova's scheduler work as a moving target. mlavalle that's why I think you should steer in that direction. | 14:37 |
| carl_baldwin | ... also making sure we can get and keep Nova's attention on this. | 14:37 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: yeah, one of my team members at work is leading the scheduler team now. So I will have help from him | 14:38 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: I already mentioned this to him (edleafe) | 14:38 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Great. I actually watched their meeting yesterday morning and was about to send a reminder about the spec but they ended the meeting a bit eraly. | 14:39 |
| carl_baldwin | *early | 14:39 |
| edleafe | carl_baldwin: you have my attention :) | 14:39 |
| carl_baldwin | edleafe: hi, welcome | 14:39 |
| mlavalle | edleafe: thanks :-) | 14:39 |
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| edleafe | always happy to help make things run smoothly | 14:40 |
| carl_baldwin | edleafe: I don't think we met at the Nova mid-cycle in Bristol. Were you there? | 14:40 |
| edleafe | carl_baldwin: no, couldn't get travel approved until it was way too late | 14:41 |
| edleafe | carl_baldwin: will you be in Austin? | 14:41 |
| carl_baldwin | edleafe: I will be in Austin. | 14:41 |
| edleafe | kewl | 14:41 |
| carl_baldwin | edleafe: Look forward to meeting you. | 14:41 |
| carl_baldwin | edleafe: You missed some great discussions about this subject at the mid-cycle. We'll need to catch you up. | 14:42 |
| edleafe | likewise | 14:42 |
| edleafe | yeah, I am still amazed at how disconnected I felt after the midcycle | 14:42 |
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| edleafe | I'll have to fight harder to get the powers that be to approve travel. It's too important | 14:43 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: edleafe: let me know if I can help catching you up. | 14:43 |
| edleafe | anyway, I don't want to derail the meeting. mlavalle can fill me in | 14:43 |
| carl_baldwin | edleafe: A good start will be the Nova spec I wrote. | 14:43 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/263898 | 14:43 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: edleafe is a San Antonian like me. So we could meet face to face to talk about it | 14:44 |
| edleafe | carl_baldwin: added to my list | 14:44 |
| carl_baldwin | edleafe: No worries. This fit well in to the meeting. | 14:44 |
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| carl_baldwin | #topic OVN and Routed Networks | 14:45 |
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| carl_baldwin | I'm not sure if russellb is lurking ... | 14:45 |
| carl_baldwin | xiaohhui: Anything else on this topic that we haven't discussed already? | 14:46 |
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| russellb | hi | 14:46 |
| russellb | sorry | 14:46 |
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| russellb | on phone, thought this started in 15 minutes, was planning to attend | 14:47 |
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| russellb | off phone! | 14:47 |
| russellb | i think we covered it pretty well in person | 14:47 |
| russellb | architecturally i think we can support it | 14:47 |
| carl_baldwin | russellb: Sorry, it changes time every week. Just to make things hard. ;) | 14:47 |
| russellb | comes down to making sure someone keeps up and does the work | 14:47 |
| russellb | and i think mestery was able to idenitfy some people to help with that | 14:47 |
| russellb | goal is to support it with OVN out of the gate | 14:47 |
| mestery | Yes, they should be on it now! | 14:48 |
| russellb | seems doable | 14:48 |
| carl_baldwin | russellb: mestery: I think we have a good start this week with xiaohhui | 14:48 |
| russellb | awesome | 14:48 |
| mestery | nice | 14:48 |
| xiaohhui | :) | 14:48 |
| russellb | xiaohhui: thank you! | 14:48 |
| carl_baldwin | Anything else? | 14:48 |
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| russellb | xiaohhui: reach out if you hit anything needed from OVN | 14:49 |
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| xiaohhui | russellb: I will, thanks | 14:49 |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks! | 14:50 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Router external gateways on routed networks | 14:50 |
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| carl_baldwin | This topic is a bit more future looking ... | 14:50 |
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| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin will start a spec on this | 14:50 |
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| carl_baldwin | That's really all I had to say about this for now. | 14:51 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Open Discussion | 14:51 |
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| carl_baldwin | Anything else? | 14:51 |
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| mlavalle | excited to see this getting off the ground! yaay | 14:51 |
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| carl_baldwin | So, I'm on vacation next week. I'll be in Washington DC and the meeting was to be at 1500. | 14:52 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: we move to dst this week, don't we? | 14:54 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Yep. | 14:54 |
| carl_baldwin | Should we hold the meeting next week? | 14:54 |
| reedip__ | oh so what would be the new time? | 14:54 |
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| mlavalle | reedip__: it doesn't change for you. This is US moving to day saving time | 14:55 |
| carl_baldwin | The meeting times are all in UTC. | 14:55 |
| carl_baldwin | ... thank heavens | 14:55 |
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| reedip__ | ohyrah | 14:56 |
| reedip__ | i forgot | 14:56 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Will you chair the meeting next week? I'll watch from my phone or catch the logs. It will be at 11:00 am in DC. | 14:56 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: will do | 14:56 |
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| carl_baldwin | If you're in a really late time zone, feel free to go to bed early and email progress or something. | 14:57 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: let's synch up Friday afternoon | 14:57 |
| carl_baldwin | But, it will be good to see what progress has been made. | 14:57 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: ack. | 14:57 |
| carl_baldwin | That's all folks! | 14:58 |
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| carl_baldwin | #endmeeting | 14:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 8 14:58:17 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_routed_networks/2016/neutron_routed_networks.2016-03-08-14.01.html | 14:58 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: thanks | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_routed_networks/2016/neutron_routed_networks.2016-03-08-14.01.txt | 14:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_routed_networks/2016/neutron_routed_networks.2016-03-08-14.01.log.html | 14:58 |
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| reedip__ | o/ | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | #startmeeting puppet-openstack | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 8 15:00:31 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'puppet_openstack' | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | #link agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-weekly-meeting-20160308 | 15:00 |
| ntpttr_ | o/ | 15:00 |
| iurygregory | o/ | 15:00 |
| mwhahaha | hi | 15:00 |
| saneax | o/ | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | #topic review past action items | 15:01 |
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| EmilienM | EmilienM to push mitaka beta tag this week: done | 15:02 |
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| EmilienM | we don't have any topic this week, so I'll open the discussion | 15:02 |
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| clayton | o/ | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | #topic Open Discussion, Bug and Review triage (submit modules to triage here) | 15:02 |
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| mwhahaha | *crickets* :D | 15:03 |
| ntpttr_ | I'm curious if any more work should be done on the glance multi store patch or if it's good as is | 15:03 |
| ntpttr_ | With some updated docs that is | 15:03 |
| mwhahaha | i was going to take a look at that today | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | ntpttr_: I think I've +2 your patch but what I would like is an manifest example in example/glance_multi_store.pp for example | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | and maybe a example/glance_single_store.pp | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | that would be *awesome* | 15:04 |
| ntpttr_ | Gotcha, I can add that, sounds good | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | ++ | 15:04 |
| ntpttr_ | Thanks! | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | ntpttr_: it can be a separated patch | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | I don't want to hold your patch more | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | you did a great work to make it backward compatible | 15:05 |
| ntpttr_ | All right I'll get that up today | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | great | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | so it's an open discussion, if you want to discuss about bugs / patches / flowers, go ahead | 15:05 |
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| mwhahaha | is the trusty ci still broken? | 15:05 |
| mjblack | I found an issue with the keystone_user provider, it appears that for the prefetch the cli call needs the --domain parameter | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | mwhahaha: scenario003 does not work for 1 week I think | 15:06 |
| EmilienM | since they updated Mitaka b2 | 15:06 |
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| mwhahaha | k | 15:06 |
| EmilienM | mwhahaha: and also, the beaker jobs for puppet-keystone is broken on ubuntu | 15:06 |
| EmilienM | mwhahaha: I spent enough time investigating both failures, if anyone wants to look I would appreciate | 15:06 |
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| EmilienM | I've been working on getting SSL & IPv6 working in our CI and I propose each scenario test with SSL & IPv6, and we alternate on operating systems for example: | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | scenario001 trusty: non SSL, non IPV6 | 15:07 |
| mwhahaha | mjblack: it should be using it | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | scenario002 trusty: SSL, IPV6 | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | scenario003 trusty: non SSL, non IPV6 | 15:07 |
| mjblack | mwhahaha: its not passing it though | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | scenario001 centos7: SSL, IPV6 | 15:08 |
| EmilienM | scenario002 centos7: non-SSL, non-IPV6 | 15:08 |
| EmilienM | etc | 15:08 |
| mjblack | mwhahaha: this is the exact line causing the trouble https://github.com/openstack/puppet-keystone/blob/master/lib/puppet/provider/keystone_user/openstack.rb#L177 | 15:08 |
| EmilienM | so we would have more coverage and use-cases | 15:08 |
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| mwhahaha | mjblack: do you think you can write up a bug with how to trigger this? | 15:09 |
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| mjblack | mwhahaha: already did ;) | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | link? | 15:09 |
| mwhahaha | well then, which bug? :D | 15:09 |
| mjblack | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-keystoneclient/+bug/1554555 | 15:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1554555 in python-keystoneclient "openstack cli provider needs to pass domain in v3 calls" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Matthew J Black (mjblack) | 15:09 |
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| EmilienM | I'm not sure that's a bug in keystoneclient, is it? | 15:10 |
| EmilienM | I would rather say in osclient | 15:10 |
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| EmilienM | chem: can you look at it? | 15:10 |
| chem | EmilienM: yep | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | mjblack: do you use /root/openrc? | 15:11 |
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| mjblack | this is before the openrc file is created | 15:11 |
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| EmilienM | we can take this bug offline after the meeting | 15:13 |
| mjblack | sure | 15:13 |
| chem | mjblack: Emilien I'm going set up a test run to confirm/infirm it. | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | do we have more topics for today? I'll let the meeting open 30 more seconds | 15:13 |
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| EmilienM | chem: thx | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | ok thanks everyone, it was short | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | see you online and take care | 15:14 |
| ntpttr_ | Thanks o/ | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | #endmeeting | 15:14 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 8 15:14:54 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:14 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-03-08-15.00.html | 15:14 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-03-08-15.00.txt | 15:14 |
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| sridhar_ram | #startmeeting tacker | 17:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 8 17:04:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sridhar_ram. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:04 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 17:04 |
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| sridhar_ram | sorry, few mins later... | 17:04 |
| sridhar_ram | *late | 17:04 |
| s3wong | hello | 17:04 |
| s3wong | I too was 4 minutes late | 17:04 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Roll Call | 17:04 |
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| sridhar_ram | who is here ? | 17:04 |
| vishwanathj | o/ | 17:04 |
| dkushwaha_ | o/ | 17:04 |
| s3wong | o/ | 17:04 |
| Manuel_112 | o/ | 17:04 |
| sripriya__ | o/ | 17:04 |
| Shuaib | o/ | 17:04 |
| prashantD | o/ | 17:05 |
| Michael_Bredel | o/ | 17:05 |
| fjvicens | o/ | 17:05 |
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| JimA__ | o/ | 17:05 |
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| sridhar_ram | howdy everyone! | 17:05 |
| s3wong | lots of attendees, impressive! | 17:05 |
| sridhar_ram | lets roll.. | 17:05 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Agenda | 17:05 |
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| sridhar_ram | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Tacker#Meeting_Mar_8.2C_2016 | 17:06 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Annoucement | 17:06 |
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| sridhar_ram | Tacker is now an official OpenStack big-tent project .. woot !! | 17:06 |
| sridhar_ram | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276417 | 17:06 |
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| vishwanathj | congratulations to one and all in the tacker team | 17:07 |
| s3wong | great! | 17:07 |
| Michael_Bredel | nice! | 17:07 |
| sripriya__ | Woot congrats sridhar_ram. | 17:07 |
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| sridhar_ram | yep, what a journey so far.. we now have the guidance of TC to take this forward...! | 17:07 |
| trozet | awesome | 17:07 |
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| dkushwaha_ | great | 17:08 |
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| sridhar_ram | one of the key take aways to evolve tacker into something that could be even applicable beyond Telcos ... ! | 17:09 |
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| sridhar_ram | we will keep that in mind as we progress in this journey! | 17:09 |
| sridhar_ram | next.. | 17:09 |
| sridhar_ram | We are entering Mitaka Release R-4 | 17:09 |
| sridhar_ram | #link http://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/schedule.html | 17:09 |
| sridhar_ram | it is going to be a tight fit.. into Mitaka ! | 17:10 |
| sridhar_ram | we should try everything possible to squeeze in ... | 17:10 |
| sridhar_ram | .. and more importantly line up properly for Newton ! | 17:11 |
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| sridhar_ram | #topic VNFFG-SFC update | 17:13 |
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| sridhar_ram | trozet: can you provide an update on the plugin side of things ? | 17:14 |
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| trozet | sridhar_ram: sure, do you guys use #info? | 17:14 |
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| sridhar_ram | s3wong: can you provide an update on the networking-sfc driver part ? | 17:14 |
| sridhar_ram | trozet: not much ! | 17:15 |
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| trozet | ok | 17:15 |
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| s3wong | trozet: you can use #info --- I know they do that a lot for ODL IRC meetings :-) | 17:15 |
| s3wong | (though ODL IRC is mostly for logging info from the actual meeting mostly on webex) | 17:15 |
| sridhar_ram | trozet: yeah, feel free to use it .. | 17:15 |
| sridhar_ram | trozet: for key bits of info | 17:16 |
| trozet | #info i pushed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286802/ which is just the vnffg extension piece. It isn't fully working yet, and was setting up an environment to debug it, but wanted feedback from tacker team on it | 17:16 |
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| trozet | #info the plugin I can also post in parallel, or wait for some feedback on the extension - I don't think that piece will be difficult | 17:16 |
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| trozet | #info as for the driver, I would like to talk with s3wong and figure out if I should focus on the networking-sfc driver for Tacker, or focus on an ODL driver for networking-sfc | 17:17 |
| sridhar_ram | trozet: my understanding is between s3wong and louisef tacker networking-sfc driver has coverage... | 17:18 |
| trozet | im a bit fuzzy on how we will translate networking-sfc architecture -> ODL arch (translating port pairs, etc) | 17:18 |
| sridhar_ram | trozet: that's definitely a longer discussion.. | 17:18 |
| trozet | sridhar_ram: ok is there any links to the code from s3wong or louisef on the networking-sfc driver? | 17:19 |
| sridhar_ram | I'm hoping to see where we stand w.r.t to tacker-vnffg -> networking-sfc as it stands today (without ODL support) | 17:19 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: can you please fill us in ? | 17:19 |
| s3wong | for me, I had the spec ready | 17:19 |
| s3wong | but was (pleasantly) surprise that LouisF also had written a spec | 17:19 |
| s3wong | so we have merged a spec, and a preliminary draft should be posted either today or tomorrow | 17:20 |
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| trozet | s3wong: this is a spec for the ODL driver for networking-sfc? | 17:20 |
| s3wong | trozet: no code yet, unfortunately | 17:20 |
| s3wong | trozet: no --- a networking-sfc driver spec for Tacker VNFFG | 17:21 |
| trozet | s3wong: ok got a link? | 17:21 |
| s3wong | trozet: we would still need to write one for networking-sfc (and goes into networking-sfc repo) | 17:21 |
| s3wong | trozet: haven't posted in on gerrit, will do that soon | 17:21 |
| s3wong | trozet: and will put you in as a reviewer | 17:21 |
| trozet | s3wong: I'd like to contribute to that ODL driver as well, if I can | 17:21 |
| s3wong | trozet: sure --- no one is working on that at the moment :-) | 17:22 |
| s3wong | trozet: we can draft a spec together | 17:22 |
| s3wong | trozet: I can bug LouisF and Cathy_ to review it :-) | 17:22 |
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| trozet | so sridhar_ram: would you like me to just get the vnffg extension, plugin, networking-sfc driver working with just plain networking-sfc? then move onto ODL later? | 17:22 |
| s3wong | trozet: actually I think that would be better | 17:22 |
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| sridhar_ram | trozet: exactly .. that is the current initial scope | 17:23 |
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| sridhar_ram | based on the ML email sent after the tacker big-tent discussion.. | 17:23 |
| s3wong | trozet: looking at your code, for example, I think Neutron client instance should be part of the driver (specifically the networking-sfc driver) instead of inside the plugin | 17:23 |
| trozet | s3wong: networking-sfc is pretty stable and wokring? | 17:23 |
| trozet | s3wong: yeah agree | 17:23 |
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| s3wong | trozet: it is working :-) | 17:24 |
| sridhar_ram | ODL support in networking-sfc is a different discussion .. it needs to happen in networking-sfc | 17:24 |
| trozet | sridhar_ram: got it | 17:24 |
| sridhar_ram | I'd couldn't recommend some better than trozet to take that work! | 17:24 |
| s3wong | trozet: networking-sfc meeting are on the same time, same channel on Thursdays | 17:24 |
| sridhar_ram | okay... decision time ... | 17:24 |
| trozet | sridhar_ram, s3wong: then I'll also work on the plugin next and something pu for review, and debug both on my setup | 17:24 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: agreed | 17:25 |
| trozet | sridhar_ram, s3wong: and keep me in the loop on any networking-sfc driver for tacker info, I might hack one up myself just to test the extension and plugin | 17:25 |
| s3wong | trozet: sure --- currently networking-sfc only has one driver: OVS | 17:25 |
| trozet | ok | 17:25 |
| sridhar_ram | trozet: absolutely...! again, we should plan for a spec in networking-sfc project.. | 17:25 |
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| trozet | yeah | 17:26 |
| s3wong | trozet: you contribution at networking-sfc would be very welcome | 17:26 |
| trozet | now we talk timeline :) ? | 17:26 |
| trozet | s3wong: yeah will start looking through networking-sfc code this weekend | 17:26 |
| sridhar_ram | alright.. given these facts and where we are in these work items.. it is quite clear we need to move to out of Mitaka .. into early Newton. | 17:27 |
| s3wong | trozet, given the Mitaka cycle schedule that sridhar_ram posted earlier, I think it is highly unlikely that this can land in Mitaka | 17:27 |
| sridhar_ram | trozet: what would be the impact in OPNFV side ? | 17:27 |
| s3wong | (just being realistic) | 17:27 |
| trozet | sridhar_ram: you mean OPNFV with SFC? | 17:28 |
| sridhar_ram | trozet: yes... | 17:28 |
| trozet | sridhar_ram: the SFC project in OPNFV focuses on ODL, so either way I will need to support that | 17:28 |
| sridhar_ram | trozet: for VNFM I thought tacker is pulled as a post-install option ? | 17:29 |
| * sridhar_ram we need to move to next agenda item in couple of mins | 17:29 | |
| trozet | sridhar_ram: it does, in the next OPNFV release (August) it will be part of the installer | 17:29 |
| trozet | sridhar_ram: OPNFV will allow us to put MANO into our installers for that release | 17:29 |
| sridhar_ram | trozet: that will be based on Mitaka correct ? | 17:30 |
| trozet | sridhar_ram: yeah I think so | 17:30 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: since we are release independent, can we pull a Mitaka release for Tacker several weeks after Mitaka official? | 17:30 |
| trozet | sridhar_ram: I can use a github fork of any progress we make upstream tacker, and include the ODL driver | 17:30 |
| sridhar_ram | trozet: okay.. it will miss Tacker VNFFG option for Aug release as well.. we gottu plan any demos based on off repo code | 17:30 |
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| sridhar_ram | trozet: exactly.. make sense | 17:31 |
| trozet | sridhar_ram: and i think that is perfectly OK for OPNFV | 17:31 |
| trozet | sridhar_ram: like i said we have more flexibility there | 17:31 |
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| sridhar_ram | trozet: there is a bigger release cadence mis-match between OS and OPNFV .. that we can't solve here | 17:31 |
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| sridhar_ram | trozet: great..! | 17:31 |
| trozet | sridhar_ram: but given the time frame for Mitaka, i agree I don't think we can get the SFC complete in that time frame | 17:32 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: we are planning to go w/ release-with-intermediary... we want to bit more structured for downstream projects to take us seriously | 17:32 |
| sridhar_ram | trozet: agreed.. | 17:32 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: OK | 17:33 |
| sridhar_ram | trozet: s3wong: please propose you specs to tacker/newton | 17:33 |
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| s3wong | sridhar_ram: OK | 17:33 |
| sridhar_ram | I'll create a dir in tacker-specs repo for newton.. | 17:33 |
| trozet | will do | 17:33 |
| sridhar_ram | general shout out to everyone.. time to "soft-land" all features in flight ASAP in Mitaka... | 17:33 |
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| sridhar_ram | and get started on Newton features | 17:34 |
| sridhar_ram | anything else quick on SFC ? | 17:34 |
| sridhar_ram | alright, lets move on.. | 17:34 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic NFV Catalog evolution | 17:34 |
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| sridhar_ram | the context of this .. as discussed in mitaka midcycle.. VNFD catalog is buried in VNFM. | 17:35 |
| sridhar_ram | we wanted to split that into someplace common across VNFM and (the emerging) NFVO.. | 17:35 |
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| sridhar_ram | Sonata team has ideas and requirements in this area | 17:35 |
| sridhar_ram | Sonata folks - please take over.. | 17:36 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: what is Sonata? (sorry for my ignorance) | 17:36 |
| JimA__ | Hi everyone, we've prepared a Google Doc upon the advice of Sridhar | 17:36 |
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| sridhar_ram | s3wong: they got introduced in the last weekly meeting .. eavesdrop is your friend! | 17:36 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: OK :-) | 17:37 |
| JimA__ | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SDq_ujOIPba7O7jgcecUVvUBq3D8rCgNP00PzPBMN50/edit | 17:37 |
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| JimA__ | We have a short intro there too for more context. | 17:37 |
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| sridhar_ram | JimA__: that's a quite well written doc... | 17:38 |
| JimA__ | So the workplan context, as Sridhar knows, is that our first implementation of this catalog is for our April milestone, going in the integrated open source release this summer | 17:38 |
| JimA__ | thanks to my colleagues here in the chat | 17:38 |
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| sridhar_ram | JimA__: do you mind introducing some of the catalogue features envisioned for Sonata ? | 17:39 |
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| JimA__ | on p3 there is an overview of those features, would you like us to mention them directly here in the chat? | 17:40 |
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| JimA__ | (bare with us, we're new to the chat-only meetings :) ) | 17:41 |
| sridhar_ram | JimA__: no.. that's okay.. I was trying to extract some key aspects for the crowd here.. | 17:41 |
| sridhar_ram | JimA__: totally understand.. we all were there once :) | 17:41 |
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| sridhar_ram | let me paraphrase then.. | 17:42 |
| sridhar_ram | catalog features in no particular order... | 17:42 |
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| Shuaib | In the SONATA project, we have two main catalogues .. SDK-Catalogue (local to the developer) and SP-Catalogue (for service deployment/also available to other developers) | 17:42 |
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| sridhar_ram | Shuaib: lets zoom in SP-Catalogue for a min... | 17:43 |
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| sridhar_ram | the document talks about an ability to activate / deactivate NSD / VNFD .. what you mean by this ? | 17:44 |
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| Shuaib | This activate/deactivate feature is to unpublish a NSD/VNFD (not delete) so it is not available to other developers .. | 17:46 |
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| Shuaib | the running instances will keep running but new instances couldnt be launched | 17:46 |
| Shuaib | for the deactivated NSD/VNFD | 17:47 |
| sridhar_ram | Shuaib: cool.. | 17:47 |
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| sridhar_ram | I can clearly see its use..! | 17:48 |
| sridhar_ram | Shuaib: you mention "developers".. I want to get the "personas" depicted in the architecture correctly... are developers the one who author VNFD and NSD templates ? | 17:49 |
| sridhar_ram | Shuaib: how about the role of "operators" in this architecture ? | 17:49 |
| Shuaib | yes .. the developers are who author NSD/VNFD | 17:49 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: can you please help us explain how this would be useful? | 17:50 |
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| Shuaib | Operators will be the one running the SONATA service platform | 17:50 |
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| sridhar_ram | Shuaib: sure.. I was trying to get the nomenclature correct to read the doc better | 17:51 |
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| sridhar_ram | any questions from other in tacker team on sonata / catalog ? | 17:52 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: i posted a question above | 17:52 |
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| sridhar_ram | sripriya: oops.. missed it 8( | 17:53 |
| Shuaib | In this project, we are addressing from NS development to NS deployment and execution. | 17:53 |
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| JimA__ | Another quick link for context: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_eHzl365Ks0Z2Y0bjhjYzMzb0U/view | 17:53 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: np | 17:53 |
| JimA__ | (overview and arch.) | 17:53 |
| sridhar_ram | I think it is fair to take some time to digest the architecture and come up w/ opinions based on that... | 17:54 |
| vishwanathj | yes, very much agree | 17:54 |
| sridhar_ram | the interesting exercise would be to make some of the ideas into tacker asks, requirements and eventually to a spec that we can implement | 17:54 |
| Shuaib | Ok | 17:55 |
| sridhar_ram | for e.g. the ask of activate/deactive is quite useful... | 17:55 |
| JimA__ | How best can we follow-up between the weekly meetings? | 17:55 |
| sridhar_ram | another thing I find useful in the "ask" is the ability to "version" the catalog entry | 17:55 |
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| sridhar_ram | JimA__: email to mailing list ... | 17:56 |
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| sridhar_ram | JimA__: .. to openstack-dev with [tacker] in the subject line.. | 17:56 |
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| Shuaib | SONATA is considering versioning as well in the catalogues | 17:56 |
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| sridhar_ram | Shuaib: I find that I interesting... | 17:57 |
| sridhar_ram | JimA__: we can also discuss this in following weekly meetings as an agenda item... | 17:57 |
| sridhar_ram | we anyway are entering Newton feature planning,... so this is good time | 17:57 |
| sridhar_ram | lets wrap NFV catalog for today.. | 17:58 |
| JimA__ | are there some initial progress on the catalog side from Tacker up until now that we could see to sync? | 17:58 |
| JimA__ | e.g. requirements list? | 17:58 |
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| sridhar_ram | JimA__: yes, I can point you to that... | 17:59 |
| sridhar_ram | we are out of time for today... | 17:59 |
| sridhar_ram | JimA__: Shuaib: thanks a lot for introducing us to Sonata.. I'm excited about this collaboration! | 17:59 |
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| sridhar_ram | #topic Open Discussion | 17:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 17:59 | |
| JimA__ | thanks to you all | 17:59 |
| Shuaib | Thank you .. we are glad to collaborate! | 17:59 |
| markus_z | #startmeeting nova-bugs-team | 18:00 |
| openstack | markus_z: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 18:00 |
| LouisF | bye | 18:00 |
| sridhar_ram | byt all | 18:00 |
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| sridhar_ram | bye all | 18:00 |
| sridhar_ram | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 8 18:00:23 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2016/tacker.2016-03-08-17.04.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2016/tacker.2016-03-08-17.04.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2016/tacker.2016-03-08-17.04.log.html | 18:00 |
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| markus_z | whops, sorry | 18:00 |
| sridhar_ram | markus_z: please take over! | 18:00 |
| markus_z | sridhar_ram: thanks | 18:00 |
| markus_z | #startmeeting nova-bugs-team | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 8 18:00:52 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markus_z. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| sridhar_ram | markus_z: np | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_bugs_team' | 18:00 |
| markus_z | soo, anyone around? | 18:01 |
| auggy | I am! | 18:01 |
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| markus_z | hey auggy, how are you? | 18:01 |
| markus_z | let's wait a minute for others to join | 18:02 |
| auggy | hey markus_z pretty good, still in a bit of pain from the back injury :( | 18:02 |
| markus_z | oh, I'm sorry to hear that | 18:02 |
| auggy | today is my last day on the hard painkillers so i should be more productive soon :) | 18:02 |
| markus_z | the pain I mean | 18:02 |
| auggy | it's better than it was before! | 18:02 |
| markus_z | hehe, the head will become clear | 18:02 |
| markus_z | that's good to hear :) | 18:03 |
| auggy | it just means i haven't done much with bug maintenance :( | 18:03 |
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| markus_z | ok, let's face it, no others will come right now | 18:03 |
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| markus_z | auggy: that's ok, you've done more than a lot of other folks :) | 18:03 |
| auggy | other people stepped in this week, mriedem and sdague | 18:03 |
| auggy | last week rather | 18:03 |
| markus_z | yeah, I've seen that there was action happening, dims did a lot of work too | 18:04 |
| auggy | they really got the list down, and it looks like dims did a bunch of pruning on the in progress | 18:04 |
| auggy | yeah! | 18:04 |
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| markus_z | #link http://45.55.105.55:3000/dashboard/db/openstack-bugs echelon is listening... | 18:04 |
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| * auggy bookmarks | 18:04 | |
| markus_z | yep, dims left two impressive marks in the data | 18:04 |
| markus_z | so, I thought we can go to some of the old incomplete things to close them | 18:05 |
| auggy | ok! | 18:05 |
| auggy | i'll add that to my things to do this week and try to spend a bit of time on it | 18:05 |
| markus_z | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage consolidation of the tags as described in a previous meeting | 18:05 |
| auggy | i updated the info per last week's nova team meeting, to remind people to tag things as *-backport as appropriate | 18:06 |
| markus_z | I added a list to the etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-bugs-team and will just add my name to the ones I will take a look at | 18:06 |
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| markus_z | do you have a link for that? | 18:07 |
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| auggy | yeah i think i put it in the main bug wiki where the backport tags were defined | 18:07 |
| auggy | i added it to the one you just linked | 18:07 |
| auggy | kilo-backport-potential and liberty-backport-potential | 18:07 |
| auggy | just a reminder that if the bug was reported against a previous build to tag it as backport-potential | 18:08 |
| markus_z | uha, I hope I didn't delete it? | 18:08 |
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| auggy | oh the liberty one got deleted | 18:08 |
| auggy | it's ok i'll add it back | 18:08 |
| markus_z | ok, cool, sorry | 18:08 |
| auggy | #action auggy to re-update liberty-backport-potential tag definition on wiki | 18:09 |
| markus_z | I added myself for the "needs-attention" tag but could solve them right now. Still a todo for me. | 18:09 |
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| markus_z | Do you have any open questions so far? | 18:09 |
| auggy | not so far, like i said i haven't done much in the way of bug-work | 18:09 |
| auggy | one thing i will say, a liberty release was just submitted | 18:09 |
| * auggy looks for the link | 18:09 | |
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| markus_z | ok, just wanted to double-check if something came up | 18:09 |
| auggy | so any bugs reporting those issues should be checked against that i think | 18:10 |
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| auggy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288772/ | 18:10 |
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| auggy | oh i did have one question | 18:10 |
| markus_z | You mean if they are included in the new liberty version? | 18:10 |
| auggy | yeah, if there's a fix for the problem in the new liberty version | 18:10 |
| markus_z | yeah, makes sense | 18:11 |
| auggy | i have a bug i've had on my todo list to reproduce that reports an issue with nova-network | 18:11 |
| auggy | if i'm not able to repro it using neutron, should i recommend the poster use neutron? | 18:11 |
| auggy | like, are we supporting fixes to nova-network right now? | 18:11 |
| auggy | i'm trying to figure out when it's valid to fix nova-network since i thought the idea was we're moving away from that? | 18:12 |
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| markus_z | AFAIK it is not decomitted because it is still widely used in the field | 18:12 |
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| markus_z | #todo markus_z figure out roadmap and support behavior of nova-network | 18:12 |
| auggy | ok so i guess i'll try to repro it using nova-network and if i can then i'll just say yes this happens and let the bug triage person decide the priority | 18:12 |
| auggy | and i'll also mention if it works in neutron and suggest the poster use that if i can get it to work as a workaround | 18:12 |
| markus_z | we could start with a prio which we thing is appropriate, I don't know the details | 18:13 |
| markus_z | The triager can increase/decrease that everytime | 18:13 |
| auggy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1475786 | 18:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1475786 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Cannot ping to a same subnet VM via floating IP" [Undecided,New] | 18:14 |
| auggy | ok | 18:14 |
| markus_z | A first best guess is good enough I think | 18:14 |
| auggy | i've had this on my to-do list to repro for some time :/ | 18:14 |
| markus_z | To figure out if neutron behaves the same is valuable. AFAIK the migration path from nova-network to neutron is a bit bumpy. | 18:14 |
| auggy | i have 3 bugs on my list to reproduce, so my goal this week is to get through those and get them updated | 18:14 |
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| markus_z | The bug you linked is odd, I would assume that would cause more attention if this is the case | 18:16 |
| auggy | yeah i suspect it's a local config issue | 18:16 |
| markus_z | Tomorrow is my team colleague available you knows the networking area a bit. I'll ask him. | 18:17 |
| markus_z | #todo markus_z Investigate if https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1475786 is valid | 18:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1475786 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Cannot ping to a same subnet VM via floating IP" [Undecided,New] | 18:17 |
| auggy | okay sounds good. I'll work on trying to reproduce that today | 18:17 |
| auggy | and i'll update the bug with my findings | 18:17 |
| markus_z | ok, cool, sounds very good | 18:17 |
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| markus_z | ah, one thing | 18:18 |
| markus_z | #info We will now get bug reports for merged changed with "DocImpact" in the commit message. http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/088382.html | 18:18 |
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| auggy | yes, i skimmed one the other week! | 18:19 |
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| auggy | my understanding is we need to make sure there's enough info for the Doc team and then add the docs project to the bug | 18:19 |
| markus_z | They will become more, we should be aware of that. | 18:19 |
| markus_z | Right, an example: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1550525 | 18:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1550525 in openstack-api-site " Abort an ongoing live migration" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to Andrea Rosa (andrea-rosa-m) | 18:19 |
| markus_z | I poked the author of the patch in IRC and asked for details. Annoying but I don't see another way. | 18:20 |
| auggy | yah the one i had skimmed was from bauzas | 18:20 |
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| auggy | and i poked him for details, i just updated the bug with what he told me on irc, it was a small change the help section explanation he added was sufficient for the doc team | 18:21 |
| auggy | or if it wasn't then they could say something but yeah | 18:21 |
| auggy | at least i understood it well enough from that ;) | 18:21 |
| markus_z | Theoretically there shouldn't be a merged change without an explanation after "docimpact". | 18:21 |
| auggy | yeah, maybe we can remind the team at the meeting this week | 18:21 |
| markus_z | yeah, it's a case by case decision | 18:21 |
| markus_z | yep, we should do that | 18:22 |
| markus_z | It takes some weeks until it will become a habit | 18:22 |
| auggy | yeah definitely :) | 18:22 |
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| markus_z | I'd use the rest of the meeting time to get through some of the stale incomplete bug reports. | 18:24 |
| markus_z | Did I miss any open point? | 18:24 |
| auggy | ok, that sounds good | 18:24 |
| auggy | i don't think so | 18:24 |
| markus_z | ok, I'll end the meeting if no one complains in the next minute | 18:25 |
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| markus_z | #info next meeting is at March 15th 2016 1000 UTC, #openstack-meeting-4 | 18:26 |
| markus_z | #endmeeting | 18:26 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 8 18:26:04 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:26 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_bugs_team/2016/nova_bugs_team.2016-03-08-18.00.html | 18:26 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_bugs_team/2016/nova_bugs_team.2016-03-08-18.00.txt | 18:26 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_bugs_team/2016/nova_bugs_team.2016-03-08-18.00.log.html | 18:26 |
| auggy | thanks markus_z ! | 18:26 |
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| markus_z | thank you! | 18:26 |
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