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gsagie#topic dragonflow09:00
gsagie#startmeeting dragonflow09:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Feb  1 09:00:42 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gsagie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'dragonflow'09:00
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gsagieHello everyone, who is here for the dragonflow meeting?09:00
dingboopto/09:01
gampelHi gal09:01
diga_o/09:01
steve_ruanhi gal09:01
oansonHi. I am.09:01
nick-ma_Hi gal09:01
raofeii'm here09:01
Shlomo_NHi09:01
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gsagie#info dingboopt, gampel, diga, steve_ruan_oanson, nick-ma, raofei, Shlomo_N in meeting09:01
gsagie#info dingboopt, gampel, diga, steve_ruan, oanson, nick-ma, raofei, Shlomo_N in meeting09:02
gsagiegampel: DuanKebo is coming? maybe contact him09:03
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gampelOk i will09:03
raofeiHis espace is offline09:03
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gsagieokie, hopefully he will join soon09:04
gsagiehi yuli_s09:04
gsagie#topic security groups09:04
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yuli_sHello !09:04
gsagieRaofei: when do you think we will be ready to start implementing this?09:04
yuli_sda jia hao09:04
gsagieafter all the constraints are removed09:04
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gsagiefrom the controller side09:04
gsagiedingboopt: here?09:05
dingbooptyes09:05
gsagiewould you like to update what you have so far, i saw you made some very good progress09:05
raofeiWe are startting implenttng controller app in local setup.09:05
gsagieand even fixed some bugs on the way for router :)09:05
dingbooptI think the next step is to implement the SG app09:05
gsagieokie, so we make sure to merge and test any patches that are open and hope we can see the sg app in the upstream code soon09:06
gsagieso we can all review it09:06
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dingbooptyes09:06
gsagie#topic port security09:06
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raofeiyes, we think so.09:06
gsagieok great09:07
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gsagiedingboopt, raofei: any update on this? i think we solved most problems in the spec09:07
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gsagieso everything should be clear to start implementing this, any open issues?09:07
gsagie#action gsagie get port security review merged09:08
gsagie#info https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263019/09:08
dingbooptyes09:08
gsagieok, so no open issues09:09
raofeiyes. port security will be started after security group.09:09
gsagieokie good09:09
gsagie#topic DB consistency09:09
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gsagienick-ma: want to update on this?09:09
gsagieI think gampel would like us to have some discussion on this, mostly the spec you sent vs the journal implementation09:10
nick-ma_i proposed the spec and also researched ODL journal. I think we do the same thing. the only difference is the implementation of distributed lock.09:10
gsagie#info https://review.openstack.org/#/c/268005/    DB consistency spec09:10
gampelIn ODL they use the SQL DB as the lock ?09:11
nick-ma_in ODL, distributed lock is implemented by a local update lock (select for update). in our spec, we try it in different way.09:11
nick-ma_yes09:11
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gampelnick-ma_: Ok I will review it today09:11
gsagieso if i understand right, the only difference is that in your spec we do full sync in case of a problem and in the journal its more ordered09:11
nick-ma_yes. we have a full-sync mechanism.09:12
gsagieof course we need to align some code for the journal to work, but its doable09:12
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nick-ma_we can reuse the journal db implementation as the distributed lock and incorporate it with our sync mechanism.09:13
gsagienick-ma: so you believe the approach you wrote in the spec is better then the journal?09:13
diga_hey09:13
gsagiehi diga!09:13
nick-ma_we can stick to our spec.09:14
diga_I have started on writting test for API, will send 1st patch today EOD09:14
gsagiediga: ok, we arent in testing yet, but we will get there soon :)09:14
diga_okay09:14
diga_do you want me to start on other stuff ?09:15
gsagienick-ma: to be honest i am unclear what is the better approach09:15
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nick-ma_the journal is working there.09:15
gampel I think that in the phase we should keep it simple09:15
nick-ma_the problem is that we need to fix all the inconsistency problems at the mean time. it is not that simple.09:17
gampelso maybe in the first step do the  journal ?  I am not sure i fully understand the differences  lets take it to our channel latter09:17
gsagienick-ma: how much time you think each solution should take09:17
gsagieif you have time constraints maybe i can take some or help09:18
nick-ma_you are working on the db sync, right?09:18
nick-ma_gal09:18
gsagienick-ma: either me or oanson will finish it soon09:19
nick-ma_i'll update you guys with my thoughts in email or review. we can start other topics then. :-)09:19
gsagieokie09:19
gsagieso lets put an action item just to pick one of the two options and start working on it09:20
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gsagie#action gsagie, nick-ma, gampel decide which is the better db consistency solution and start working on it09:20
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nick-ma_ok09:20
gsagie#topic publish-subscribe09:21
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gsagiegampel: would like to update?09:21
gampelyes09:21
gampelI just updated the spec09:21
gampel#info https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263322/09:21
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gsagie#info https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263322/   pub-sub spec09:21
gampelit include reliability and plugability09:22
gsagieSo this spec talks about our pub-sub abstraction and i believe also the reliability mechanism between the pub-sub module and the local controllers09:22
gampelyes it is missing the TOPIC support for the selective distribution09:22
gsagieokie, so everyone please review it, we are going to merge it soon probably so if anyone notice any problem09:23
gampelcode is submitted without the reliability09:23
gsagiei think we going to merge it with default True, so its working by default09:23
raofeiOK09:23
nick-ma_ok09:23
gampel#info https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263733/09:23
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gsagieso if you notice anything strange that might be relate to it, open a bug please on gampel ;)09:23
dingbooptok09:23
gsagiej/k, you can assign it to me too :)09:23
gsagieok09:24
gsagiegampel: are there any open issues there?09:24
gampelplease review the patches09:24
gampelas we discussed today the pubsub use client side filtering09:24
gsagieWe need to update Duan also to point the right people into this patch09:24
gampelcurrently in zmq09:25
gampelso when used with the selective proactive messages will still reach the clients09:25
gsagiewe need to make sure to merge this with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274336/09:25
gsagiebtw nick-ma, saw the migration patch, looks good to me, i added some reviewers from Neutron which knows these areas good and after their review we can merge it, but thanks for working on this09:26
gsagiegampel: need to make sure to document this in the spec09:27
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nick-ma_ok.09:27
gampel yes it is there09:27
gsagieok great09:27
gampelin the pub-sub spec09:27
gsagieanything else on this topic?09:27
gampelNo i hope to add the TOPIC registration support to the spec this week and finish the reliability part09:28
gsagieokie, lets move on09:28
raofeiabout the DNAT, although it's merged.09:28
gsagieokie sounds good, lets just put action to manage it09:28
raofeibut for external network gateway MAC, your solution need statistic configuration09:28
gsagie#action gampel finish pub-sub spec in regards to TOPIC registeration and reliability09:28
gsagieraofei: lets talk about this now09:28
gsagie#topic DNAT09:28
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raofeiI have a suggestion/solution to get/update external gw mac dynamically09:29
gsagieraofei: okie great, we had some ourselfs as well, can you send us in email and we can iterate on this?09:29
raofeiI added some commit to the merged patch last week09:29
raofeiOK09:29
gsagieohhh, didnt see it, i will take a look09:29
gsagie#action gsagie look at distributed dnat spec comments09:29
raofeiSo, for DNAT, do you think to raise a more detailed spec or just coding?09:30
gsagiebtw raofei, you can propose new patch with your ideas on top of the merged spec09:30
gampeli didn't see it either sorry , please ping us next time09:30
raofeiOK09:30
gsagieraofei: i think we can start coding, there is alot of things that are unrelated to this problem and we can start working on them, like09:30
gsagiestarting to bring all the floating ip data from the plugin to DF DB09:30
gsagieand reading it in the controller09:30
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gsagieand then writing the application09:31
raofeiyes, I see09:31
gsagieBut its good that we also solve the case you mention, we do need to support dynamic change of MACs in the egress flows in case the MAC for external gateway changes, which might happen in active/standby cases09:31
gsagieBut we can continue discussing in parallel i know gampel had some idea to use learning flows09:32
gsagieso we can discuss it09:32
gsagieraofei: so you also start working on dnat?09:32
raofeiOK, agree09:32
raofeiyes. security group will be done mainly by dingbo09:33
gsagie#action raofei start implementing distributed dnat09:33
gsagie#action gsagie, gampel review raofei ideas and together solve the external MAC changes problem in the design09:33
gsagieokie great09:33
gampelOk09:33
raofeiI hope we can complete some feature indenpendent in coding09:33
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gsagieraofei: yeah, hoping to see the DNAT patches soon, if you need help at any stage please let us know09:34
gampelraofei: I am not sure I understand ?09:34
raofeigampel, what's your doubt?09:35
raofeisure.09:35
gsagie#topic redis db09:35
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gsagieDuanKebo is not here, but there is a spec patch please help review09:35
gsagie#info https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274340/09:35
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gsagie#topic selective proactive09:36
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gsagieFor this we also need DuanKebo, but lets put an action item to speak about it next meeting, i will start doing some work for this09:36
gsagieand we can all iterate on the spec09:36
gsagie#info selective proactive spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273877/09:36
gsagieWe need to make sure to add "topics" registeration both for the DB and for the pub-sub APIs09:37
gampel yes i will add it in another patch09:37
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gsagiebut basically, its going to be the DB drivers responsbility to implement this09:37
gsagie#action gsagie start working on OVSDB monitor thread09:37
gsagie#action gsagie start working on adding tenant information from plugin09:38
gsagieanyone has any question regarding this? i prefer we talk about it next week when Duan is here unless anything important09:38
gsagieokie, if anyone has any question feel free to raise it in the channel09:39
gsagie#topic testing09:39
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gsagieoanson: might sharing what are you working on ?09:39
steve_ruanis "service injection " started?09:39
oansonI'm looking into testing the ovs flows without setting up VMs09:39
oansonThe idea is to create a fast lightweight testing I/S for DF applications.09:40
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gampelsteve_ruan: this is not targeted to mitaka09:40
gsagiesteve_ruan: hi, this is currently not in our priorities for this release09:40
oansonUsing e.g. ovs-appctl ofproto/trace, we can trace virtual (and generate real) packets through the flow.09:40
steve_ruan@gampel @gsagie, thanks09:41
gsagiesteve_ruan: but certainly its the next topic we want to tackle, and i think provide alot of extra value, so we might start this in parallel09:41
gsagiesteve_ruan: if you guys are actually planning to use it, it might be an important feedback for us and we can give it more priority09:41
gsagieoanson: cool09:41
steve_ruanthanks09:42
gsagieso everyone can build a simulated tests based on oanson framework to test applications09:42
oansonThat's the plan.09:42
gampeloanson:  I think this will improve our CI testing  and allow application level testing Ping/DHCP etc09:42
gsagiewhich can be good for the security groups and the dnat apps09:42
oansonI will create a (hopefully) simple API for others to rely upon.09:42
gsagieyuli_s: want to share your update regarding OVS flows tests and fullstack tests?09:42
Shlomo_NSound great. Good job oanson.09:42
yuli_sgsagie: sure,09:43
gsagieI think in general we want everyone that adds a new feature/code from now on to also add tests unit/fullstack/functional09:43
yuli_sI commited the DHCP tests09:43
gsagie#info DHCP tests done by yuli_s https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273548/09:44
yuli_sfixing a number of issues found during review09:44
yuli_sso, hope it will go in master code today09:44
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gsagieyuli_s: ok good, and next you addressing the destructor problem right?09:44
yuli_sI also commited class I used to create VMs09:44
yuli_sso, I will be able to commit more tests soon09:45
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gsagiewe also have these APIs tests that we want to do scale/performance testing for many API calls on the Neutron server09:45
gampel #info https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273595/09:45
gsagie#action yuli_s fixing the current fullstack tests destructor problem09:45
gsagie#action yuli_s perform API performance testing plan09:46
gsagieok good job yuli_s, we do need you to start in parallel on the API/DB scale thinking as well09:46
yuli_sok09:46
gsagiebecause we are testing different solutions and its important we have something that can verify we dont hurt performance at each patch09:47
gsagieokie09:47
gsagieShlomo_N: would like to update regarding scale tests for data plane?09:47
Shlomo_Nsure09:47
gsagiediga: you going to submit some unit tests soon?09:47
gsagiethink you mentioned that in the start of the meeting :)09:47
Shlomo_NI am currently trying to setup a testing env. with DVR with Liberty. Have few problems in setup.09:48
Shlomo_NI have uploaded a performance testing spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272559/.09:49
gampelShlomo_N: you have initial  result for DF09:49
Shlomo_NYes, already shared with you the results.09:49
gsagieShlomo_N: okie, lets take this offline then, i saw DuanKebo sent you the details of the person in Beijing that does09:49
gsagiescale tests09:50
Shlomo_Nok09:50
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gsagieokie, anyone else would like to discuss about the tests?09:50
gampelAll please try not to avoid  trailing white spaces in the spec and avoid more then 80 char line length09:50
gsagie#topic open discussion09:51
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gsagiesteve_ruan: i would like to talk with you about the use case09:51
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gsagiesteve_ruan: the question is how seriously you guys need it :) because we also have some internal use cases that needs this and09:51
gampelWe need to stabilize our CI it fails some times randomly (the none voting)09:53
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gsagieokie09:54
gsagieWe need to think when its time to make it voting09:54
gsagieand which one :)09:54
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gsagieanyway steve_ruan: we can discuss this after this meeting and see what we can do to help with this use case09:54
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gsagie#topic bugs09:55
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gsagieanything special here?09:55
oansonAbout the non-voting CIs, I think we should wait for yuli_s's destructor fix. I see some strange race issues there.09:55
gampelOk09:55
gsagieoanson: yes i agree, but not all tests are related to these, we can think about making tempest voting09:56
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gsagiebut lets postpone this call to the next meeting, as you said its not stable enough09:56
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gsagie#action oanson, yuli_s help make the fullstack tests stable09:57
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gsagieThanks everyone for joining :)09:57
Shlomo_NThank you09:57
nick-ma_thank you.09:57
gampelThank you09:57
oansonThank you.09:57
gsagie#endmeeting09:58
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apuimedo#startmeeting kuryr15:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Feb  1 15:00:21 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is apuimedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'kuryr'15:00
apuimedoHello everybody and welcome to yet another kuryr meeting!15:00
gsagieHello!15:00
banixhi15:00
baohuahi15:00
apuimedowho's made all the road to the show today?15:00
gsagieheh15:01
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banixall gone15:01
apuimedoirena will be joining later15:01
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apuimedo#info gsagie baohua banix are here15:01
apuimedofawadkhaliq: are you not in?15:02
fawadkhaliqhere here15:02
gsagiefawad is here i believe15:02
hongbino/ for lurking15:02
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apuimedo:-)15:02
apuimedothank you all for joining15:02
gsagiehi hongbin, thanks for the review on the nested containers15:02
hongbingsagie: my pleasure15:02
apuimedoindeed hongbin15:02
banixfawadkhaliq: may have gone back to sleep in the confusion about the meeting time …15:02
apuimedothank you all for the comments15:02
fawadkhaliqbanix: :-)15:03
apuimedoIt's not even proper night there, fawadkhaliq, is it?15:03
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gsagieYeah, we need to either fix the wiki page about the IRC meeting times, or make the next meeting same time15:03
apuimedoyes15:03
salv-orlandoaloha15:03
baohua+115:03
banixgsagie: nothing to fix; it is correct15:04
apuimedo#info fawad, hongbin and salv-orlando are here too15:04
apuimedo#topic weekly updates15:04
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salv-orlandobanix: the wiki might be correct, but the ics file you download not.15:04
salv-orlandoI imported in 2 distinct calendars gave me the same result. This week tue next one mond15:04
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baohuashould recheck the ics file and fix it, is it generated automatically?15:04
salv-orlandoanyway this can be fixed offline not a big deal15:04
banixsalv-orlando: i just downloaded it and looks ok in my calendar… wondering why it may not be correct for others...15:05
apuimedo#info apuimedo presented kuryr in FOSDEM yesterday. Showed LBaaS, FIPs, VM-Container interaction15:05
apuimedobanix: what app do you use for calendaring?15:05
salv-orlandobanix: idk frankly I have adjusted the calendar manually now so icbb anymore15:05
baohuaany feedback on FOSDEM?15:05
apuimedothat we had the pip requirements file sorely lacking15:06
banixapuimedo just checked with the mac Calendar15:06
apuimedosince probably we all use devstack on a single machine15:06
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apuimedoso trying to deploy an extra machine only with docker, kuryr and a neutron agent was a bit of a pain15:07
apuimedowe need to sort out the packaging real soon15:07
apuimedo#info mestery sent some patches for the infra requirement checking task to vote on kuryr patches15:08
gsagiei think devvesa worked on the Ubuntu packaging?15:08
apuimedoI expect that when that gets merged, all the patches jobs will fail until we properly fix requirements.txt15:08
apuimedogsagie: he is close to finishing, I probably need to bump into him15:08
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apuimedo#action apuimedo to follow up on the packaging with devvesa15:09
apuimedoanybody has any other event or update from last week that is not in directly related to other topics in the agenda?15:09
banixI think Hui Kang is also close to getting the containerized version pushed to Kola15:09
gsagiebanix: cool, maybe he could add some instructions on Kuryr devref regarding that15:10
apuimedo:O15:10
apuimedothat is really awesome!15:10
banixsure I don’t see him online now but will talk to him15:10
apuimedolooking forward to try that15:11
gsagiereally cool15:11
fawadkhaliqbanix: very nice. +1 to the instructions on devref15:11
apuimedo#action banix to follow up with Hui Kang on kolla progress and patch to Kuryr devref15:11
apuimedoanything else?15:11
mesteryapuimedo: The first requirments patch merged, once https://review.openstack.org/274446 merges, the proposal bot will take care of Kuryr for requirements updates.15:12
apuimedomestery: thanks. I didn't even know the bot had such brains15:12
mestery:)15:12
baohuabot gets smarter:)15:12
apuimedothere's also been some work from baohua on rally integration this week, hasn't it?15:13
gsagieyeah15:13
baohuaoh, yes, i started to write the plugin, but not sure if it be put into the kuryr repo or rally's.15:13
baohuapatch here: https://review.openstack.org/27401415:13
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salv-orlandoapuimedo: this also means that you subscribe to the requirements contract.... mestery surely has the link for it15:13
apuimedogsagie: baohua: how does the new plugin fit with gsagie's previous work?15:14
salv-orlandobut in a nutshell you do not control anymore your requirements.txt and use g-r for any update you might need15:14
baohuathe plugin framework is finished, and some new rally task is added.15:14
apuimedosalv-orlando: contract... I hope it comes with liquorice candy as compensation15:14
mesterysalv-orlando: I'd have to dig it out, but the main this prevents is manually updating requirements like I saw this weekend with a bunch of patches by apuimedo :)15:14
gsagieapuimedo: its not a new plugin, what baohua is working on is defining new test scenarios and adding them to run in the gate15:14
apuimedook, I'm fine with it15:14
mesteryapuimedo: IT comes with liquor candy, is that ok? ;)15:14
baohuaoh, IMHO, gal's work is for the gate testing. and we need more scenarios.15:14
apuimedoto forget bad situations?15:15
apuimedobaohua: agreed, thanks ;-)15:15
baohuai suggest we add a new plugin for kuryr specially.15:15
gsagiebaohua: if we keep it in Kuryr repo, and i think that we should for now, we should probably also add some Rally core reviewers to the reviews15:15
apuimedo#info baohua sent new rally test scenarios https://review.openstack.org/27401415:15
baohuayes, i want hear comments from u and other revirewers. gsagie15:16
gsagieto make sure we do things right, i wanted to talk with them about adding a "Docker" context driver15:16
baohuasure, thanks!15:16
apuimedogsagie: baohua: mind a bit of a debate on tests in kuryr vs plugin in rally?15:16
apuimedoI think that up until now the consensus was to have it in our repo15:16
baohuayes, we can look for rally team's comments. maybe stay in kuryr, and move to rally in future.15:17
gsagieI think we should focus more on fullstack tests now and continue with Rally after, Rally is mostly better when we want to benchmark things, like run scenarios in some relatively bigger load15:18
apuimedowell, we'll need to define some sort of point of when to move it to rally repo15:18
gsagieI dont think we have close to enough coverage yet15:18
apuimedoanyway, let's all keep adding scenarios to the test15:18
apuimedoLet's see if I have time to add some for the fips and lbs15:18
baohuasure, and there's also full-stack patch under review :) https://review.openstack.org/26510515:19
gsagiewe also need some for IPAM15:19
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apuimedo#link https://review.openstack.org/26510515:19
gsagieyou can put an action on me for that15:19
apuimedoagreed15:19
baohuasure15:19
apuimedo#action gsagie to add ipam testing15:19
apuimedo#topic magnum integration15:19
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gsagiehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/269039/15:20
apuimedofawadkhaliq has been answering comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269039/3/doc/source/specs/mitaka/nested_containers.rst15:20
fawadkhaliq#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269039/15:20
gsagiegood progress there from fawad, i personally like the general direction15:20
fawadkhaliqthanks everyone for feedback and comments15:20
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fawadkhaliqgood discussion as well.15:21
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gsagiei do think we need to maybe break some action items to start working on, like adding the Kuryr Heat resource template for Magnum15:21
irenabsorry for being late15:21
fawadkhaliqgsagie: +1 irenab also suggested similar that we should consider having specs for respective components. I like that idea.15:22
fawadkhaliqI will register specs for those and will need some help there.15:22
banixgsagie: do we need the Heat resource templates for Kuryr regardless of its use by Magnum?15:22
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apuimedobanix: that is something that sounds useful15:23
gsagiebanix: probably can be consumed by other orchestrators that sit on top of OpenStack15:23
hongbinMagnum currently uses scripts to setup. I would say Heat resource is a plus, but not a must15:23
apuimedotripleo for example15:23
gsagieCloudify can be one..15:23
banixyup15:23
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irenabso you consider heat resource to deploy kuryr?15:23
apuimedoI think it is not an immediate priority, but it is one of the tasks for Magnum integration15:24
fawadkhaliqhongbin: is here and I would go with his comment. We can start on that in parallel anyway since we do see value in making that happen.15:24
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gsagieif there is a package/ Kolla containerized image, adding this might be very simple, i personally not familiar with that but there is someone from Magnum team that has alot of experience with that, dont remember the name15:24
gsagieRobert...15:24
apuimedohongbin:can you explain more in the magnum usage of scripts vs heat?15:25
hongbinapuimedo: Magnum uses scripts as user-data15:25
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hongbinapuimedo: 1. Use heat resources to provision VMs. 2. Put scripts in each VM to setup the middleware15:26
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apuimedohongbin: so you are suggesting that adding scripts may be enough, right?15:27
hongbinapuimedo: yes.15:27
fawadkhaliqhongbin: the script information is passed to Heat anyway, right?15:27
apuimedothat they are placed on the VMs and that install kuryr and point it to the right auth url15:27
hongbinfawadkhaliq: Yes, scripts is passed in cloud-init, which is a Heat resource15:28
baohuaso seems we can just put kuryr inside the vm image template, and config with script?15:28
apuimedoany taker for the magnum deployment integration spec?15:28
fawadkhaliqhongbin: makes sense. so indirectly Heat installs the Kuryr agent through the existing mechanism15:28
hongbinfawadkhaliq: Per my understanding, it is correct.15:29
fawadkhaliqapuimedo: I can kick it off and gsagie showed some interest as well ;-) we could both get it up?15:29
hongbinfawadkhaliq: You can definitely add a script to install the agent15:29
gsagieyes, np i can help fawad with this15:29
fawadkhaliqhongbin: yes, I played a bit with that. Thanks much for the details. bring much more clarity.15:30
apuimedo#action fawadkhaliq and gsagie to start the magnum deployment integration15:30
hongbinfawadkhaliq: wcl15:30
apuimedoI count on hongbin for heavy reviews :P15:30
hongbinapuimedo: sure15:30
gsagieI think we might also have help from kexiadong on that15:31
fawadkhaliqapuimedo: you better buy hongbin KFC after ;-)15:31
hongbinhaha15:31
apuimedowell, the summit will be in austin, we can find some15:31
apuimedoand make bucket eating competition15:31
fawadkhaliqTalking about the summit, I would like to propose Kuryr team social..let's keep that for the open discussion.15:32
baohuagreat! and just reminder the proposal door is closing in 12h15:32
fawadkhaliqextended be a day15:32
fawadkhaliq2nd Feb now15:33
baohuaoh not notice that15:33
apuimedofawadkhaliq: IIUC, from your answers to my comments, the current standing is that we would have all the traffice between containers reaching down to the host hypervisor15:33
fawadkhaliqapuimedo:  that's correct. this is the current expected behavior. Not desirable but I don't see another way :(15:33
apuimedofawadkhaliq: I was thinking a bit about it15:34
gsagiegotta go guys, sorry and will sync up later!15:34
fawadkhaliqgsagie: no worries!15:34
apuimedothanks gsagie15:34
apuimedoand I think that we should try to write it in a way so that the current behavior is reaching down, but that leaves the door open for having vlan per subnet15:35
apuimedowith this in mind15:35
apuimedothen15:35
apuimedothe binding script for a vendor could probably leverage security groups information for some sort of sg lite15:36
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fawadkhaliqapuimedo: I am not sure how VLAN per subnet would come in the picture. can you please elaborate?15:36
apuimedowhich is a clear tradeof of sec/speed15:36
irenabapuimedo: I agree, it maybe vendor dependent behavior15:36
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apuimedofawadkhaliq: well, on the VM side you would just bind all the containers in a subnet to the same vlan15:37
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apuimedothen, on the hypervisor side15:37
apuimedoyou could split the up into subports knowing vlan and mac15:37
apuimedofor example15:37
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apuimedoI'm sure there are more challenges15:37
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apuimedobut leaving the door semi-open in the mapping sounds like a good idea to me15:38
fawadkhaliqapuimedo: yeah you could do that.15:38
apuimedowith bpf stuff you could probably make a nice sg lite in the guest15:38
irenabapuimedo: you mean kuryr vlan alocation can be done in different ways?15:38
apuimedowhich would be good enough for subnet level stuff15:38
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fawadkhaliqI am okay keeping it open not to block any implementations.15:39
apuimedoirenab: exactly, which is not something that happens at the "worker" host anyway15:39
apuimedoit's probably something that will happen on the k8s/mesos api host15:39
apuimedoand which will be passed down to the workers/containerizers15:40
apuimedothe vlan choice, that is15:40
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apuimedofawadkhaliq: ;-)15:40
irenabas we discussed pver spec with fawadkhaliq , we need to map different kuryr components to their role/responsibility/affinity15:40
fawadkhaliqapuimedo: makes sense. let's keep it flexible.15:41
apuimedovery well. Anything more to discuss about the magnum integration? I brought up my thing only, and there were a lot of nice comments, so anybody else with something to bring up about the spec15:41
fawadkhaliqirenab: exactly, role of Kuryr agent will define this area well.15:41
fawadkhaliqlet me add more details there and then we can iterate on it to make sure we don't miss anything.15:41
apuimedocool!15:41
fawadkhaliqthanks all the comments!15:41
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apuimedothank you for the patient replies15:42
apuimedo#topic k8s integration15:42
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apuimedo(I half expect that we will not have enough time to discuss this, so maybe we can make another extraordinary meeting on Wed/Thu)15:42
apuimedo(about k8s)15:42
irenabapuimedo: +115:42
apuimedoalright, let's get started15:43
apuimedofirst, I want to thank you all for the contributions to the etherpad15:43
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apuimedo#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kuryr_k8s15:43
apuimedofkautz: ^^15:43
apuimedowhat about we start with the open questions?15:44
irenabI didn’t update the use cases section, but I think we may want to align with  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1blfqiH4L_fpn33ZrnQ11v7LcYP0lmpiJ_RaapAPBbNU/edit#15:44
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irenablatest proposal discussed by kube networking team15:44
apuimedo#link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1blfqiH4L_fpn33ZrnQ11v7LcYP0lmpiJ_RaapAPBbNU/edit#heading=h.w0wvuhtdmr2l15:45
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irenabseems like discussion is still on going, but I guess we may try to map existing proposal to fit neutron abstractions15:46
apuimedoI have to say, about that document, irenab, that I really hope they do the rules thing15:46
apuimedoinstead of the "allowfrom"15:46
irenaballow_to :-)15:46
apuimedonow I got an allergic reaction15:46
irenabor you mean the naming?15:47
apuimedoas long as I don't see allow_maybe_to15:47
apuimedoxD15:47
fawadkhaliqapuimedo: rofl15:47
irenabyes, agree. rules much more generic15:47
irenabbut srtill I beleive we can try to map policy to SG tules15:47
irenabrules15:48
banixi think it was mentioned in their last meeting that may be using rules will be better15:48
fkautzi suspect allowfrom was added since it is a simpler concept for app devs15:48
apuimedoin security, explicit is better than implicit15:48
apuimedoanyway15:48
apuimedoopen questions it is15:48
fkautzmost likely there will be two policies, app requesting access in a spec, second are a set of rules allowed by operator15:48
banixsounds familiar ;)15:49
apuimedobanix: I believe so15:49
irenabfkautz: per cluster/namespace/pod?15:49
irenabthe operator one15:49
fkautzirenab: that depends on the outcome of these meetings, i don't know yet15:49
apuimedofkautz: imho the simpler entities do not belong in the talk of what gets to the networking layer15:49
apuimedothat is just high level ux15:49
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apuimedoworking on kubernetes to have libnetwork support vs option T right now and option F long term vs only option F15:50
irenabapuimedo: can you please remind option F?15:51
apuimedoas a reminder: Option T. CNI that translates to libnetwork. Option F native CNI driver that reusers parts of the kuryr codebase and probably has an API watching component15:51
irenabCNI driver?15:51
apuimedoirenab: I'm just a slow typer15:51
irenab:-)15:51
apuimedotypist15:51
apuimedoand apparently typoist too :/15:51
apuimedothere's 8 minutes to go and a lot to cover15:52
mspreitzBTW, I am nervous about supposing the k8s accessibiility will be enforced by SGs alone.  SGs do not stop ARP traffic, and do not scale as well as using isolated ethernets.15:52
irenabsome how I do not see much value for option T15:52
mspreitz(supposing the ethernets are small)15:52
fkautzi don't think k8s will end up supporting libnetwork, they are both aligned against separate philosophies and target use cases. i think option F is the best outcome but can see option T helping to bridge quicker15:53
apuimedomspreitz: can you explain more about your concern?15:53
apuimedois it about the reference implementation isolation of services?15:53
apuimedobtw, thanks for joining mspreitz15:53
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mspreitzIf two tenants put their VMs on the same Neutron network, and try to isolate via SGs, they will still see each other's ARP traffic.15:54
mspreitzSorry I am late, had another meeting until just a few mins ago.15:54
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apuimedono worries ;-)15:54
apuimedomspreitz: isn't that an operator deployment prerrogative or policy?15:55
apuimedoif you don't want them to see the arps, you should probably not have them on the same l2 segment15:55
mspreitzI am making a technology statement.  Neutron security groups do not apply to ARP traffic.15:55
mspreitzThus, to achieve full isolation, we need more than Neutron SGs.15:55
apuimedomspreitz: well, that's something to take into account in the translation15:56
apuimedoprobably will enforce tiers into separate neutron nets15:56
apuimedoand separated by routers15:56
irenabI think it may end up with some deployment configurable options, such as one big L2 versus routed network15:56
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apuimedoirenab: well, this is part of what makes me uneasy at the k8s sig document15:57
irenabapuimedo: the question how to infer it from the templates15:57
mspreitzNo, one big ethernet does not isolate wrt ARP15:57
apuimedothat they several models of isolation15:57
fawadkhaliqagree with apuimedo irenab that it won't end up being a showstopper, we can definitely talk about a way to tackle at L2 level later by doing something in another domain15:57
apuimedoand I don't see the templates all that different15:57
mspreitzfawadkhaliq: are you suggesting we consider the non-isolation wrt ARP a bug in Neutron and fix it?15:58
irenabshall we decide on anther k8s discussion day/time?15:58
apuimedoI feel like the document wants to leave the door too open for implementations to do several models of security15:58
apuimedoirenab: agreed15:58
apuimedoI propose wednesday at the 3 utc15:58
apuimedosorry15:59
apuimedo1500utc15:59
fawadkhaliqmspreitz: perhaps introduce a mode that makes it happen but it's certainly not a bug right now.15:59
banix1600?15:59
irenab15:30?15:59
apuimedookay for me too banix15:59
mspreitzeither works for me15:59
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fawadkhaliqbanix: i will try to make it. I am on PTO this week.16:00
mspreitzBTW, as you would expect, SGs also fail to isolate wrt non-IP traffic16:00
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* Sukhdev time check 16:00
apuimedofawadkhaliq: sorry to put work on PTO :(16:00
banixfawadkhaliq:  cool16:00
fawadkhaliqSukhdev: :-)16:00
fkautzi should be able to get to either one16:00
banixSukhdev: join us :)16:00
banixapuimedo: lets end the call pls16:01
apuimedobanix: is 15:30 good for you?16:01
Sukhdevbanix : ha ha - I am here16:01
fawadkhaliqokay guys, how do we do l2-gateway in k8s? cc: Sukhdev16:01
banixapuimedo: ok16:01
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apuimedo#info k8s meeting at 15:30 utc Wednesday February 3rd16:01
Sukhdevfawadkhaliq : time for next meeting16:01
irenabthanks!16:01
apuimedothank you all for joining and being so chatty16:01
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apuimedo#endmeeting16:01
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fawadkhaliqthanks. bye!16:02
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apuimedobye!16:02
SukhdevFolks, time for Ironic-neutron meeting16:02
irenabbye apuimedo and see you on other meeting16:02
Sukhdev#startmeeting ironic_neutron16:02
openstackMeeting started Mon Feb  1 16:02:38 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:02
apuimedo:'(16:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ironic_neutron'16:02
jrollmorning16:02
apuimedosorry Sukhdev16:02
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devanandamorning16:02
Sukhdevapuimedo : no worries16:02
vdroko/16:03
Sukhdev#topic: Agenda16:03
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Sukhdev#link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron#Meeting_February_1.2C_201616:03
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SukhdevI kept the same agenda from last week16:03
davidlenwello/16:03
Sukhdevwe'll modify as we go along16:03
Sukhdev#topic: Announcements16:03
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SukhdevIf you are planning on presenting a session at Austin Summit, deadline is today16:04
Sukhdevbefore midnight tonight PST16:04
jrollactually, it got extended to tomorrow16:04
jrollhttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-February/085462.html16:04
vdrokyep, tomorrow 2359 pst16:04
Sukhdevjroll : oh really - did not know that - thanks for sharing16:04
jrollnp16:05
Sukhdev#topic: Integration Status16:05
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SukhdevLooks like most of patches are working fine16:06
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SukhdevI tested them all - other than one, all worked just fine16:06
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SukhdevI posted the comment on the one16:06
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jrollso, the nova patch issue is actually a client bug imo16:06
jrollthe client should return portgroup_uuid as an attribute of port16:07
jrollI believe right now it returns portgroup_id16:07
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Sukhdevjroll : yes - that is correct16:07
SukhdevOther than that, I am up and running all the latest patches16:08
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SukhdevIf others do not find any issue with these, shall we consider merging them?16:09
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SukhdevIt is really a pain to manage them :-)16:09
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jrollI've been asking folks to review them, and I believe some have been doing so16:10
Sukhdevjroll devananda : we decided couple of weeks ago the order in which they should be merged16:10
Sukhdevcan we execute on that plan?16:10
jrollI've been slacking on reviews myself, unfortunately16:10
jrolland I can't tell people to merge things16:10
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jrollSukhdev: we did execute, using -2s as the border16:11
jrollso when a group of patches is all +A, we can remove the -2 and they will land16:11
Sukhdevhow and when we decided to add +A?16:12
jroll+A is done by core reviewers when they feel the patch is ready16:13
jrollthat's the approval16:13
SukhdevI noticed some of them have some minor comments -but, mostly addressed16:13
devanandathe API patches had some issues which I pointed out last week16:13
jrollwell, these need to go through review until reviewers are satisfied16:13
jrollI can't make people approve patches, and I can't approve patches if other reviewers don't think they should be16:14
jrolldoes that make sense?16:14
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Sukhdevjroll : understood - I am just suggesting that we can start asking cores to review them16:15
jrollSukhdev: I've been asking for weeks16:15
Sukhdevsometime people sit and wait as they think these are still being worked on16:15
jrolland some cores are reviewing them16:15
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jrollor rather, rloo, deva, and myself. haven't seen much from other cores there16:15
jrolloh and vdrok16:16
Sukhdevjroll : cool - as long as you are asking them, then we are good16:16
Sukhdevwell, we need two +2's :-):-)16:16
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vdrokSukhdev, rather we need no -1s :)16:17
Sukhdevdevananda : regarding the API issue, jroll and you were going to look into it - any update on that front16:18
Sukhdevvdrok : absolutely16:18
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vdrokSukhdev, iirc it is about hiding portgroups completely for earlier api versions16:19
Sukhdevvdrok : yes - backward compatibility16:19
vdrokvsaienko did fixed that I guess, looking at the code16:19
SukhdevI did not look at the patches as of last Wednesday -16:21
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Sukhdevseems like deva disappeared -16:23
jrollthere he is16:23
jroll16:18:18        Sukhdev | devananda : regarding the API issue, jroll and you were going to look into it - any update on that front16:23
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devanandasorry about that. fat fingered a command and broke my irc client16:23
Sukhdevyup he was there, but, I do not see him now16:23
jrollheh16:24
Sukhdevdevananda : ah ha16:24
devanandaI proposed a small patch on top to fix it (let me get the link)16:24
devanandahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/273119/16:24
vdrokdevananda, yep, vsaienko added that to api change, along with some more validation of input to some fields16:25
Sukhdev#link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273119/16:25
devanandavdrok: great - I'll take a look16:26
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SukhdevI will add this to the etherpad to keep track of this -16:26
SukhdevOther than this and nova patch, we are looking good16:27
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vdrokalso this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139687/53 will have some more refactoring, it's already in progress16:28
vdrokto resolve rloo comments16:28
devanandajroll: if you and/or rloo +2 the patches, I will start +2/+A'ing as they are ready16:29
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devanandaup to the API changes, that is16:29
jrolldevananda: cool, I'll get on it today/tomorrow16:29
devanandathat will at least reduce the rebase load on these folks16:29
devanandahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/206244/51 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139687/50 are the tricky ones right now16:29
devanandathey both have a lot of API changes16:30
devanandahonestly, I should spend a whole day (maybe two) going over these two patches16:30
devanandaI just haven't had the time :(16:30
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Sukhdevdevananda : thanks16:30
jrollditto16:30
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Sukhdevjroll : for nova patch - where do the fix need to go?16:32
jrollSukhdev: the client should return portgroup_uuid on the port object16:32
Sukhdevso, this will go with the API fix then16:33
Sukhdevi mean after16:33
jrollright, it's a client thing, assuming the api already returns it16:34
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SukhdevAnything on the integration status?16:35
SukhdevI mean anything else16:35
SukhdevI have been carrying the tempest testing topic from previous meetings, but, never got to it16:37
Sukhdevyuriy are you here?16:37
SukhdevI saw a patch, but, have not had a chance to review it -16:37
Sukhdevlooks like yuriy is not here - so, will skip it16:38
SukhdevI am done with the agenda that I had in mind16:38
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Sukhdev#topic: Open Discussion16:38
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SukhdevAnything we need to discuss ?16:39
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Sukhdevwe have 21 mins16:39
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vdrokbtw here is the link - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269157/16:39
SukhdevOtherwise, lets use those 20 min. to write up proposals for summit sessions :-):-)16:40
jrollI've got nothing here16:40
Sukhdev#link:https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269157/16:40
Sukhdevvdrok : thanks16:40
SukhdevOK - folks, looks like we are done16:41
SukhdevThanks for attending16:41
Sukhdevbye16:41
devanandao/16:41
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jrollthanks Sukhdev16:41
vdrokbye16:41
Sukhdev#endmeeting16:41
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SukhdevFolks time for L2GW meeting17:01
Sukhdev#startmeeting networking_l2gw17:02
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Sukhdev#topic: Agenda17:02
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Sukhdev#link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269157/17:02
SukhdevOpps - sorry for wrong link17:03
Sukhdev#link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/L2Gateway#Meeting_February_1.2C_201617:03
Sukhdevthat is correct agenda link17:03
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Sukhdev#topic: Announcements17:03
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SukhdevThe deadline for Austin summit proposal submission is extended by one day to Feb 217:04
Sukhdevoferby_ : Are you planning on making any presentation?17:04
oferby_I submitted a talk17:05
oferby_on the extension to the L2GW17:05
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Sukhdevcool -17:05
oferby_I'm planning to do it with Irena or Alon from Midokura17:05
oferby_Irena may join here. Irena, are you here?17:06
Sukhdevthat would be a good topic for presentation17:06
oferby_we still need to get elected ....17:07
Sukhdevis it on networking track, right?17:07
Sukhdevwhen the voting time comes, send me link, we can get some additional votes -17:07
oferby_great. I will17:08
Sukhdev#topic: Patches under review17:08
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oferby_I posted 2. one for networking and one for architecture17:08
SukhdevI did not know there is architecture track as well :-)17:09
Sukhdevsame topic on both tracks or different ones17:09
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oferby_same topic different tech level17:09
Sukhdevgot it...17:10
SukhdevI approved and merged few patches -17:10
irenabhi guys, sorry I am on parallel meeting17:10
Sukhdevoferby_ : I reviewed your proposal and posted some comments17:11
Sukhdevirenab : hi17:11
irenabhi17:11
oferby_hi irena17:11
irenaboferby_: I will review the updated spec later today or tomorrow17:11
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irenabfor some reason it gets a lot of pep8 error and I beleive they are related to the code patch17:12
oferby_sukhdev, I started to do some fixes but I was a bit busy today. will commit tomorrow17:12
Sukhdevoferby_ : no worries17:12
oferby_I know. sukhdev already sent some remarks on it17:13
oferby_I will fix it tomorrow17:13
Sukhdevirenab : yes, I saw those pep8 errors17:13
oferby_it was mainly because the line was too long.17:13
Sukhdevirenab : in one of my comments I mentioned the line being too long17:14
oferby_but what did you think about the commands? is anything missing?17:14
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SukhdevIt looked good on the surface17:14
oferby_ok17:15
irenabI will review it again, but if you addressed posted comments, I beleive it should be ok17:15
SukhdevIf you can add a section on the flow (which you replied to armax's comments) in the doc itself17:15
Sukhdevit will help the readers a lot17:15
irenabon the pep8 errors, seems the problem is all over the code, it is not related to the spec17:16
oferby_sure. i will add the flow17:16
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oferby_will do that tomorrow.17:16
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Sukhdevirenab : there is no code in the spec pep8 can be confusing sometime17:16
irenabhttp://logs.openstack.org/86/270786/2/check/gate-networking-l2gw-pep8/a2baae0/console.html17:17
Sukhdevyou can run it locally in your environment before pushing the patch17:17
irenabI can try to look at this later this week17:17
oferby_you are right. should have done that.17:18
Sukhdevyou can run it locally (tox -e pep8)17:18
irenabsome unit tests are failing too …17:18
irenabSukhdev: I think most are not related to oferby_ spec patch17:19
Sukhdevthat seems very odd17:19
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oferby_anyway we are now running tests on the code so we will find if I did that.17:21
SukhdevI just issued a recheck on your patch - see what happens17:22
Sukhdevbut, you should run it locally to fix the main culprits17:23
Sukhdevoferby_ : Anyhow coming back to the content of your patch,17:23
SukhdevI think overall it looks good17:23
Sukhdevarmax posted some good comments as well17:24
oferby_great. I will take care of all yours are armax remarks tomorrow.17:24
oferby_the ones not yet replied.17:24
Sukhdevsounds good - once this is done, then we can dive into the code17:25
oferby_ok.17:25
SukhdevI had forwarded your patch to the India team as well - I did not see any response from them yet17:25
Sukhdevwill ping them again - otherwise, we will proceed17:25
oferby_ok.17:25
Sukhdevoferby_ : any word on the patch for the ovslib ?17:26
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oferby_They wanted unit tests with the code17:27
Sukhdevwe are holding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202495/ patch until we get that done17:27
oferby_when I submitted it they asked for ipv6  tests too17:27
Sukhdevyup - tests are necessary evil :-):-)17:28
oferby_right but I requests one after the other ....17:28
oferby_one at a time.17:28
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oferby_I hope after tests in ipv6 we will be able to commit the code.17:29
SukhdevI'll keep the fingers crossed :-)17:30
oferby_:-)17:30
SukhdevAnything else we need to discuss today?17:30
oferby_I think we should start to work on separating the API from the impl17:31
oferby_do you like me to do that or someone else as you said you thought of it17:31
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SukhdevPlease go ahead -17:32
oferby_sure. I will.17:32
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oferby_Also, we made changes to the vtep emulator17:33
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oferby_in openvswitch project.17:33
oferby_this is to emulate hardware switch that support the new API17:33
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Sukhdevthere are couple of patches by vikas - you may want to take look at those - he is refactoring some of the code in those17:34
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oferby_in gerrit?17:34
Sukhdevyup17:34
oferby_ok. will look at it tomorrow.17:35
oferby_(I'm at home now .....)17:35
Sukhdevcheck here - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/networking-l2gw,n,z17:35
oferby_got it.17:35
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SukhdevAnything else to discuss?17:36
oferby_yes. I would like to change the gateway command17:36
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oferby_in a way that it will not be mandatory to add physical port.17:36
Sukhdevwhat do you mean? which command?17:36
oferby_l2-gateway-create17:37
oferby_I will add it as a bug. ok?17:37
Sukhdevoferby_ : you have to remember people are using it - we can not break backward compatibility17:37
oferby_we can have it as an option17:38
Sukhdevyes, bug is correct way to go17:38
oferby_in the command it is use like that:17:38
oferby_--device .......17:38
oferby_which means that we can make it optional.17:38
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Sukhdevwhen you post a bug, please describe it clearly so that everybody can know what is being changed and why -17:39
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oferby_sure. i will.17:39
Sukhdevsounds good17:39
oferby_i guess this is it from me.17:40
Sukhdevanything else?17:40
oferby_irena,  something from you?17:40
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oferby_I think this is it.17:42
Sukhdevlooks like we are done - silence means no from irenab :-)17:42
oferby_yep.17:42
Sukhdevthanks folks17:42
Sukhdevbye17:42
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oferby_talk to you. bye.17:42
Sukhdev#endmeeting17:42
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tonyb#startmeeting stable20:59
openstackMeeting started Mon Feb  1 20:59:24 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tonyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:59
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:59
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'stable'20:59
tonybHi All who's heer for the stable meeting?20:59
tonybmriedem isn't able to make it and mtreinish is somewhere in Australia suffering from jetlag21:00
mrungeo/21:00
tonybmrunge: hey!  I thought I was all alone :)21:00
mrungethank you for stepping up and covering the meeting tonyb21:00
tonybmrunge: np21:01
tonyb#topic status21:01
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tonybSo mriedem has provided links fo the current failure rateas of periodic stable jobs21:01
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tonybthe long standing neutroin-*aas issues seem to be fixed (well thet passed overnight)21:02
tonybtrove is still an issue.21:02
mrungetrue21:02
tonybthe sahara gate is broken due to not actually runnign any jobs21:02
tonybbut I'm workign on a fix for sahara21:03
mrungeawesome21:03
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tonybDaivey coordinated the Kilo release which went well21:03
mrungeis ceilometer released now?21:03
tonybthere's still a problem with telemetry but that's mostly in hand (IIUC)21:04
sigmavirus24o/21:04
* sigmavirus24 apologizes for being late21:04
tonybmrunge: I know that Daivey and fungi are workign onit but I don't have an upto the miniute status21:04
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tonybsigmavirus24: np21:04
mrungetonyb, yes. same here21:05
mrungehey sigmavirus24 o/21:05
tonyb#topic Action items21:05
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tonybttx has been out so I doubt there will have been progress on the new stable:follow-procces (or whatever) tag21:06
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tonybmriedem has reached out to projects that might need to do a release21:06
mrungeI released Horizon-8.0.121:06
mrungealthough no mail has been sent out21:06
tonybmistral has at least one new feature that they've agreed to back out21:06
tonybmrunge: woot!21:06
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tonybmrunge: not even from the release tools?21:07
mrungenope21:07
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tonybmrunge: hmm okay, was it recent enough that it could still be in the post-release pipepline ?21:07
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mrungeit was on Jan 27th21:07
mrungehttp://tarballs.openstack.org/horizon/21:07
tonybmrunge: Hmm okay do you want to follow up with dhellman or shoudl I?21:08
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mrungetonyb, let's actually do both21:08
tonybmrunge: okay21:08
mrungehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/273033/ is the release request21:08
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tonyb#action mrunge to followup with dhellman re horizon release email21:09
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mrungeI mean, just to be sure to get an answer21:09
tonyb#action tonyb to followup with dhellman re horizon release email21:09
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tonybmrunge: yeah.  It's strange that it didn't just happen21:09
mrungetonyb, when I get an answer, I will let you know/cc you whatever21:09
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tonybmrunge: cool21:10
tonybsigmavirus24: if IIUC glance a release for glance is in progress?21:10
tonybsigmavirus24: well the was a b2 tarball from Jan 2121:10
sigmavirus24tonyb: I think jokke_ was working on one but I'm not sure of status21:11
tonybsigmavirus24: okay21:11
tonybanything else for release status/action items?21:11
sigmavirus24I offered to help but he never roped me in :)21:11
tonybsigmavirus24: hehe, lucky!21:11
sigmavirus24inorite?21:11
tonybsigmavirus24: inorite? I don't follow.21:12
sigmavirus24inorite is shorthand for "I know, right?"21:12
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sigmavirus24You said I was lucky, I was agreeing21:12
tonybsigmavirus24: Ah okay21:13
sigmavirus24Sorry21:13
tonybsigmavirus24: If I'd said it out loud it would have made sense ;P21:13
sigmavirus24maybe21:13
tonyb#topic stuck reviews21:13
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tonybmriedem has highlighted one21:13
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tonyb#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229152/21:13
tonybCleanup multipath ISCSI connections when disconnecting volumes21:14
tonybit's a massive backport from os-brick to nova to fix a bunch of multipath issues21:14
tonybIt's pretty invasive BUT it does make a released feature more stable21:14
tonybit's a tough call on the risk vs benefit line.21:14
tonybopinions?21:15
mrungehmm :/21:15
tonybPattrick East has done a lot of work to get it into shape but it's hard to review21:16
mrungeit doesn't really feel right to vote on nova features; I'm actually faaaar away from nova21:16
tonybmrunge: Sure. mriedem and I are very conflicted21:17
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tonybI guess well move on, but if y'all have any ideas of new ways to look at the problem (rtaher then by the letter of the policy) would be welcome21:18
tonyb#topic tooling21:18
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tonyblast meeting mriedem suggested a couple of tools that would be good21:18
tonyb1) to list unreleased changes that might inform us on when $project is ready for a release21:19
tonybdhellman has a WiP for that but we're l=kinda blocked by the new stable tag21:19
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tonyb2) a tool to find LP bugs tagged with $release-backport-potential that don't have a backport21:19
tonybI haven't started on that21:20
mrungewould it be an idea to think about, which projects we're actually caring about?21:20
tonybvolenteers very welcome :)21:20
tonybmrunge: that's the issue with dhallan's WiP patch21:20
tonybit looks at anything that has the 'has-stable-branches' tag which is too broad21:20
tonybmrunge: I think in the meantime we shoudl limit it those in the stable-dashboard21:21
tonybbut the long term goal is anything with the new tag21:21
mrungeas recently pointed out, projects are handling "stable" a bit different from each other21:21
tonybmrunge: Yeah.21:22
tonybmrunge: gotta start somewhere though.21:23
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mrungeyes right21:23
mrungein the past, I tried to keep an eye on stable backports for horizon21:23
mrungebut that's not scaling at all21:23
tonybmrunge: cool.21:23
tonybmrunge: anyone else doing it?21:23
david-lyleo/21:24
mrungeme, of course21:24
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mrungeand david-lyle had an eye on that, too21:24
mrunge:)21:24
mrungebut I like the idea on tool support21:24
tonybmrunge: I keep an eye out and then poke r1chardj0n3s because I knwo he's close21:24
sigmavirus24tonyb: stick's distance of you, right?21:25
tonybsigmavirus24: 500miles so it's a long stick21:25
tonybsigmavirus24: but he's in the "right" TZ :)21:25
mrungewho can set the $release-backport-potential flag?21:25
sigmavirus24shorter than the one you'd need to hit me with :P21:25
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sigmavirus24mrunge: anyone who can set a tag on an issue21:25
tonybmrunge: okay, so would the tools above help or do you need somethign else?21:25
sigmavirus24(e.g., probably most registered launchpad users)21:25
tonybmrunge: do you have a dashbord for helpign tirage/prioritise reviews?21:26
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tonybmrunge: it depends form project to project but the default is as sigmavirus24 says any LP user21:26
mrungetonyb, I must admit, I'm completely selfish and am primarily looking at downstream bugs21:26
mrungewhich means, bugs filed in Red Hats bugzilla21:27
tonybmrunge: fair enough gotta draw the line somewhere21:27
mrungeor bugs I happen to see in launchpad, which I consider as being high impact21:27
* tonyb wites a tool to mirror LP -> RH :D21:27
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mrungeheh :D21:27
sigmavirus24tonyb: I'm thinking of the bug tags versus release series. release series can be nominated by anyone but usually need to be approved by someone on the right team for the project (in glance, that's the driver's team on LP)21:27
tonybsigmavirus24: right basically the same for nova21:28
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mrungesometimes it's hard to draw a line between feature and bugfix21:28
tonybsigmavirus24: both are outlined in the stable policy21:28
sigmavirus24glance has the problem now of every core being a driver, per-se so I'm not sure if flaper87 updated the LP permissions or not21:28
tonybsigmavirus24: it's easy to check.21:29
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tonyb#action tonyb check how glance drivers compares to gerrit cores and nagg flaper87 to sync them ;P21:29
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tonybsigmavirus24: I guess anything that has been accepted for a serries *shoudl* have someone workign on it21:30
tonybsigmavirus24: that'd be worth checking21:30
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* tonyb will check nova21:30
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* sigmavirus24 nods21:31
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tonybanyway other ideas for tools would be cool.21:31
tonyb#topic open discussion21:31
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tonybanyone have anything for discussion?21:31
mrungenope21:32
tonybmrunge: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-announce/2016-January/000944.html21:32
tonybmrunge: isn't that the announce for your horizon release?21:33
mrungetonyb, oh great21:33
mrungethat's the exact announce I missed21:33
tonybmrunge: okay21:33
tonybmrunge: 2 action items done!21:33
tonyb#winning21:33
mrungeheh :D21:34
mrunge#action mrunge to draw a cake for tonyb21:34
tonybWell if we don't have anythign else I'll close the meeting (and take my son to school)21:34
tonybmrunge: thanks21:34
mrungethank *you*21:34
tonybokay I think we're done21:35
tonybThanks everyone21:35
tonyb#endmeeting21:35
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mrungethanks and bye21:35
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