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acabot | #startmeeting watcher | 14:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 20 14:00:08 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is acabot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'watcher' | 14:00 |
vincentfrancoise | o/ | 14:00 |
acabot | hi | 14:00 |
brunograz | hi | 14:00 |
dtardivel | o/ | 14:00 |
edleafe | \o | 14:00 |
jed56 | -o/ | 14:00 |
slaweq | hello | 14:00 |
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jwcroppe_ | o/ | 14:01 |
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acabot | our agenda for today https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#01.2F20.2F2016 | 14:01 |
tkaczynski | hi | 14:01 |
vmahe | hi | 14:01 |
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acabot | #topic Announcements | 14:02 |
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tpeoples | \\o | 14:02 |
acabot | quick update regarding mitaka-2 | 14:02 |
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acabot | #info : 11 BPs en 41 bugs targeted for mitaka-2 | 14:02 |
sballe | o/ | 14:03 |
acabot | it is more BPs than Nova project :-) | 14:03 |
acabot | so thanks to all of you | 14:03 |
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jwcroppe | +10000 | 14:03 |
sballe | one quick annoucement from Intel. bzhou has decided to leave intel and will be replaced with edwin ... | 14:03 |
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acabot | just to remind you that we had only 3 BPs for mitaka-1 ! | 14:03 |
sballe | I cannot remember edwin;s irc | 14:04 |
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gzhai | I'm edwin | 14:04 |
acabot | hella gzhai | 14:04 |
gzhai | hello | 14:04 |
sballe | Welcome gzhai :-) | 14:04 |
acabot | welcome | 14:04 |
vtech | o/ | 14:04 |
jed56 | Welcome gzhai! | 14:04 |
tpeoples | hi gzhai | 14:04 |
vincentfrancoise | welcome gzhai :) | 14:04 |
gzhai | hello all:) | 14:05 |
sballe | acabot: I am working with nishi and team to get the bps in asap. she has been super busy reworkign the story around the demo and showing it to senior folks at intel | 14:05 |
acabot | gzhai : could you please register to watcher drivers ? https://launchpad.net/~watcher-drivers | 14:05 |
gzhai | acabot: ok | 14:05 |
acabot | sballe: is gzhai the new Intel core contrib ? | 14:05 |
sballe | yes please | 14:05 |
sballe | acabot: yes please | 14:06 |
acabot | #action dtardivel update gzhai & bzhou core dev status on launchpad | 14:06 |
sballe | bzhou told me he still want to work on watcher when he moves over to his new company but I think let's see if they let him and maybe he can earn his core status the regular way | 14:06 |
acabot | I suppose we remove the core feature to bzhou ? | 14:06 |
acabot | sballe : +1 | 14:07 |
tkaczynski | hi Tomasz here, should I also register to watcher drivers? | 14:07 |
acabot | #action acabot reassign BPs & bugs to gzhai | 14:07 |
sballe | tkaczynski: Welcome too | 14:07 |
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sballe | yes please register to watcher drivers tkaczynski | 14:07 |
acabot | tkacynski : hi Tomasz, yes you can | 14:08 |
jed56 | everybody can register to watcher drivers for contributing : -) | 14:08 |
acabot | #action gzhai tkaczynski register to watcher-drivers | 14:08 |
acabot | any other annoucement so far ? | 14:08 |
sballe | no from me | 14:09 |
acabot | #topic Review Action Items | 14:09 |
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jwcroppe | just that it will be nice to see everyone in Austin in two weeks :) | 14:09 |
acabot | jwcroppe : :-D, we will be 10 in Austin which is great ! | 14:09 |
sballe | +1' | 14:09 |
dtardivel | tkaczynski: what is your username on Launchpad ? | 14:09 |
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jwcroppe | btw, for mid-cycle - we will order lunch in every day | 14:11 |
sballe | +10000 | 14:11 |
tkaczynski | dtardivel I don't have username there yet | 14:11 |
acabot | we need a status on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/optimization-threshold, gzhai do you plan to take it ? | 14:11 |
sballe | so working lunches ;-) | 14:11 |
acabot | sballe : ok ;-) | 14:11 |
gzhai | acabot: I assume that | 14:11 |
tkaczynski | I'm just starting to organize myself here, looking around :) | 14:12 |
sballe | is bzhou in the meeting? | 14:12 |
acabot | gzhai : ok thx | 14:12 |
gzhai | sballe: seems no | 14:12 |
sballe | gzhai: ok I was just checking | 14:12 |
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sballe | so gzhai thx for taking that over | 14:13 |
acabot | #info the spec regarding efficacy indicator is in review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266446/ but I need to add work items | 14:13 |
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seanmurphy | i have a basic q which i think touches on this | 14:14 |
jwcroppe | acabot: thanks, any other urgent specs to review? | 14:14 |
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seanmurphy | do we assume that there can be multiple strategies which can achieve a specified goal then? | 14:15 |
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seanmurphy | and the efficacy indicator is the way of arbitrating between them | 14:15 |
seanmurphy | ? | 14:15 |
acabot | jwcroppe : no | 14:15 |
acabot | seanmurphy : I think we should discuss that in specs | 14:15 |
jwcroppe | I think we decided that we'd start with 1 strategy<-->1 goal to start with ? | 14:15 |
seanmurphy | ok | 14:15 |
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seanmurphy | that seems more reasonable to me | 14:16 |
acabot | jwcroppe: right | 14:16 |
acabot | #info a lot of improvement on Watcher doc is ongoing with many reviews | 14:16 |
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acabot | jwcroppe: I'd like to have your review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266461/ | 14:16 |
acabot | vmahe did a great job putting sequence diagrams in Watcher doc | 14:17 |
sballe | I need to leave. Sorry about that | 14:17 |
acabot | and I think its important for everyone who wants to understand how Watcher is working right now | 14:17 |
acabot | sballe: ok | 14:17 |
gzhai | sballe: bye | 14:18 |
acabot | #action jwcroppe review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266461/ | 14:18 |
sballe | bye | 14:18 |
jwcroppe | acabot: will do | 14:18 |
acabot | #info dynamic loading of Actions handlers in the Watcher Applier feature is now available in Watcher | 14:19 |
jwcroppe | that's excellent | 14:19 |
acabot | but there is still a bit work to do | 14:19 |
acabot | on contract and oslo | 14:19 |
jwcroppe | acabot: in mid-cycle can we carve out an hour time slot (maybe one evening Mon/Tue) to see demo of some of these new feature? | 14:19 |
seanmurphy | is there a list of known actions? | 14:19 |
acabot | jwcroppe : yes I will add on hour of demo time on tuesday | 14:20 |
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jwcroppe | ok, great - we can make it maybe last topic in evening | 14:20 |
jed56 | You can take a look to the entry points | 14:20 |
jed56 | but we can update the documentation to list them | 14:20 |
jed56 | we have ( Migrate,Nop, Sleep, Change hypervisor State ) | 14:21 |
seanmurphy | jed56: perhaps i can discuss this offline with you - thanks | 14:21 |
jed56 | https://github.com/openstack/watcher/blob/master/setup.cfg#L49 | 14:21 |
acabot | #info vincentfrancoise has set up Tempest in Watcher | 14:21 |
jed56 | seanmurphy : yes of course | 14:22 |
acabot | and he needs reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/watcher+branch:master+topic:bp/tempest-basic-set-up | 14:22 |
acabot | anyone want to review tempest ? | 14:22 |
tpeoples | yeah i will when i get time | 14:22 |
acabot | #action tpeoples review Tempest set up https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/watcher+branch:master+topic:bp/tempest-basic-set-up | 14:23 |
acabot | tpeoples: thx | 14:23 |
acabot | #info tpeoples is working on external API versionning WIP | 14:23 |
tpeoples | yeah, hoping to get that done in the next 1-2 days | 14:24 |
tpeoples | i decided to follow what magnum is doing with their clients | 14:24 |
tpeoples | think that will get us the flexibility we need | 14:24 |
acabot | tpeoples: it would be great to have it for mitaka-2 | 14:24 |
jwcroppe | tpeoples: can you put me on the review for that when you post it up? | 14:24 |
tpeoples | yep, will try :) | 14:24 |
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acabot | #info watcher-client has been updated to reflect changes in Watcher | 14:25 |
jed56 | tpeoples : what are the clients you want to support ? | 14:25 |
jed56 | neutron, keystone, ... ? | 14:26 |
tpeoples | jed56: just going to do nova, ceilometer, glance, cinder for now | 14:26 |
tpeoples | but it will be easy to add more | 14:26 |
tpeoples | +keystone | 14:26 |
jed56 | okay cool | 14:26 |
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acabot | there is still on review open on watcher-client #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266473/ | 14:26 |
acabot | seanmurphy : do you want to share your work in progress now ? | 14:27 |
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seanmurphy | we have not had much to update tbh | 14:27 |
gzhai | tpeoples: means watcher-client can call nova/ceilometer's API? | 14:27 |
seanmurphy | we said we would produce a spec for today | 14:27 |
seanmurphy | on how to implement our load consolidation mechanism in watcher | 14:28 |
seanmurphy | we will produce a draft of it later | 14:28 |
tpeoples | gzhai: implicitly yes, but you won't be able to do `watcher ceilometer-meter-list` or anything like that | 14:28 |
seanmurphy | i sent a link of the draft gdoc to you so you can see | 14:28 |
acabot | seanmurphy : seems great, thx for the update | 14:28 |
tpeoples | just that there will be a standard way to fetch other project's clients from the watcher backend | 14:28 |
jed56 | seanmurphy : you can follow the doc ( https://github.com/openstack/watcher/blob/master/doc/source/dev/plugins.rst) | 14:28 |
seanmurphy | tbh it’s our first time writing such a spec | 14:28 |
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seanmurphy | so we’re not sure if we’re hitting all the right notes | 14:29 |
gzhai | tpeoples: got it. | 14:29 |
seanmurphy | jed56: thanks - will do | 14:29 |
seanmurphy | the process is that we git push to watcher-specs, right? | 14:29 |
acabot | seanmurphy : no :-p | 14:30 |
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edleafe | tpeoples: is the watcher API stable enough yet to consider controlled versioning, like microversions? | 14:30 |
acabot | #action seanmurphy look at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher/Contributing#Your_first_commit | 14:30 |
seanmurphy | ok - will do | 14:30 |
tpeoples | i would say not yet edleafe | 14:31 |
acabot | seanmurphy : we will iterate on your spec through Gerrit | 14:31 |
seanmurphy | ok | 14:31 |
edleafe | tpeoples: ok, I didn't think so. | 14:31 |
acabot | seanmurphy : please push it for reviews in watcher-specs/specs/mitaka/approved folder | 14:31 |
jwcroppe | edleafe: IIRC, when we discussed that in Tokyo, we decided to get through the POCs and determine which APIs, etc. are really needed, which need to be updated, etc. and do some 'clean up' before we get to the full-blown microversions, etc. that folks will expect once 'big tent' | 14:32 |
seanmurphy | right - and it should follow the format in https://github.com/openstack/watcher-specs/blob/master/specs/mitaka-template.rst | 14:32 |
acabot | seanmurphy : yes | 14:32 |
edleafe | jwcroppe: that sounds sane | 14:32 |
acabot | #topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion | 14:32 |
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acabot | I'd like to have a quick bug list review for mitaka-2 as we still have 17 bugs opened | 14:33 |
acabot | #link https://launchpad.net/watcher/+milestone/mitaka-2 | 14:33 |
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tkaczynski | dtardivel: I added myself to watcher drivers, waiting for approval | 14:34 |
jwcroppe | acabot: need to attend another meeting, will review any new action items you post for me... I will also review the spec later this afternoon referenced earlier | 14:34 |
dtardivel | tkaczynski: done | 14:34 |
acabot | we need folks for #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/watcher/+bug/1536191 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/watcher/+bug/1525830 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/watcher/+bug/1523513 | 14:35 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1536191 in watcher "Bad place for checking goal existence when creating a new audit template" [Low,New] | 14:35 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1525830 in watcher " Refactored Watcher codebase to add py34 support" [Low,Confirmed] | 14:35 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1523513 in watcher "Add tests to primitive" [Medium,In progress] | 14:35 |
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acabot | and https://bugs.launchpad.net/watcher/+bug/1521636 | 14:36 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1521636 in watcher "MessagingCore - reference to a self.client only defined in children" [Low,In progress] | 14:36 |
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acabot | tpeoples: you want to talk about https://bugs.launchpad.net/watcher/+bug/1510188 ? | 14:37 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1510188 in watcher "Creation of a watcher audit with an unknown audit template generates bad error" [Low,Confirmed] - Assigned to Taylor Peoples (tpeoples) | 14:37 |
tpeoples | yeah, so the fix for this is a tad more complicated i think | 14:38 |
tpeoples | a user could use an audit template to create an audit, then update the audit template to use a totally other goal | 14:38 |
tpeoples | and the audit has no trail of that change | 14:38 |
tpeoples | so the history of the audit would make no sense | 14:38 |
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tpeoples | likewise, if someone deletes the audit template, the audit has no way to "know" what goal it had originally | 14:39 |
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vincentfrancoise | tpeoples: It's kind of linked to #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/watcher/+bug/1532843 then | 14:40 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1532843 in watcher "Can create Audit with invalid parameters" [Low,Confirmed] | 14:40 |
tpeoples | i propose that the audit template is simply a holder of the metadata for the audits, and when an audit is created it copies over that metadata so there is no hard link there | 14:40 |
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acabot | tpeoples: true but is it the problem targeted by this bug ? | 14:40 |
tpeoples | but i think that is going to require a BP | 14:40 |
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acabot | tpeoples: right we need a BP & specs | 14:41 |
tpeoples | yes acabot, because if i fix it, it has implications for listing audits when doing the validation of the audit template | 14:41 |
jed56 | +1 | 14:41 |
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acabot | tpeoples : could you submit a BP wih your first assumption ? | 14:41 |
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tpeoples | yes. i will outline the problem in more words | 14:41 |
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tpeoples | but long story short, i'm not going to get that bug done since i think we need a more complete solution | 14:42 |
acabot | #action tpeoples submit a BP regarding audit template history management | 14:42 |
acabot | tpeoples : ok I will schedule it for mitaka-3 | 14:42 |
tpeoples | sounds good acabot | 14:42 |
acabot | #action acabot schedule https://bugs.launchpad.net/watcher/+bug/1532843 & https://bugs.launchpad.net/watcher/+bug/1510188 for mitaka-3 | 14:43 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1532843 in watcher "Can create Audit with invalid parameters" [Low,Confirmed] | 14:43 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1510188 in watcher "Creation of a watcher audit with an unknown audit template generates bad error" [Low,Confirmed] - Assigned to Taylor Peoples (tpeoples) | 14:43 |
acabot | #topic Open Discussion | 14:43 |
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dtardivel | tpeoples: acabot not sure. bug is only bad return error | 14:43 |
dtardivel | when we try to create an audit with a bad audit template name. | 14:44 |
acabot | dtardivel: you want to fix it with the good error code ? | 14:44 |
tpeoples | the fix for that would break the listing audits (if there are any audits with deleted audit templates) | 14:44 |
dtardivel | I think we can try to return the correct error status in that case. and create a new BP about how to store data for history | 14:45 |
dtardivel | acabot: yes | 14:45 |
dtardivel | acabot: this is the scope of the bug | 14:45 |
tpeoples | dtardivel: let's discuss in irc after the meeting | 14:46 |
acabot | tpeoples: ok | 14:46 |
acabot | cross-project liaison | 14:46 |
acabot | I think it would be great to start having a cross project liaison for Watcher | 14:46 |
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acabot | the weekly meeting is at 9pm UTC | 14:47 |
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acabot | I'm sure I will be able to atend at 10pm my time | 14:47 |
tpeoples | acabot: there was a note on the ML about this. it looks like the PTL's were encourage to attend the meeting, but if you aren't interested / can't make the meeting then we should find someone else to do it | 14:47 |
acabot | anyone would be interested in doing it ? | 14:47 |
tpeoples | jwcroppe or sballe may be interested in that role? | 14:48 |
acabot | I suppose but none of them is here :-D | 14:48 |
acabot | #action jwcroppe sballe would you be interested in being cross-project liaison for Watcher ? | 14:49 |
acabot | they will discover it ;-) | 14:49 |
tpeoples | :P | 14:49 |
acabot | slaweq: how is it going with watcher ? | 14:50 |
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tpeoples | acabot: what's it? | 14:51 |
acabot | slaweq is one of our first Watcher user ;-) | 14:51 |
acabot | but I'm not sure he is still with us | 14:52 |
jed56 | (OVH) | 14:52 |
tpeoples | wow i totally misread your last comment, too early :D | 14:52 |
acabot | I just relealized I forgot to mention taskflow integration by jed56 | 14:53 |
acabot | #info taskflow integration is now in review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264142/ | 14:54 |
tpeoples | thanks for working on that jed56 | 14:54 |
acabot | as we plan to release mitaka-2 on friday EOD, we will need to merge a lot of code tomorrow | 14:55 |
acabot | so please try to review most of the code before | 14:55 |
tpeoples | +1 acabot, lots to do today | 14:56 |
acabot | and set it to -1 if you dont want something to be merged in mitaka-2 | 14:56 |
acabot | #info 21 reviews open waiting for mitaka-2 | 14:57 |
acabot | #info mid-cycle agenda is available on #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_mitaka_mid-cycle_meetup_agenda#Agenda | 14:58 |
acabot | even if you dont plan to be there, please add subjects you would like to be discussed | 14:59 |
acabot | its time to close the meeting | 14:59 |
acabot | thank you | 14:59 |
acabot | bye | 14:59 |
tpeoples | talk to you later | 14:59 |
tkaczynski | bye | 14:59 |
vincentfrancoise | bye | 14:59 |
jed56 | bye | 14:59 |
acabot | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 20 14:59:51 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-01-20-14.00.html | 14:59 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-01-20-14.00.txt | 14:59 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-01-20-14.00.log.html | 14:59 |
gzhai | bye | 15:00 |
jasondotstar | no vahana meeting today | 15:00 |
jasondotstar | FYI. | 15:01 |
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sdake | #startmeeting kolla | 16:30 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 20 16:30:12 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sdake. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:30 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:30 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:30 | |
sdake | #topic rollcall | 16:30 |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 16:30 |
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Jeffrey4l | o/ | 16:30 |
SamYaple | o/ | 16:30 |
zhurong | 0/ | 16:30 |
nihilifer | o/ | 16:30 |
Liuqing | o/ | 16:30 |
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pbourke | o/ | 16:30 |
sdake | \o/ good morning/evening depending on your local :) | 16:30 |
sdake | locale that is | 16:30 |
inc0 | o/ | 16:30 |
sdake | Jeffrey4l thanks for making it at what I am sure i like 3am for you :) | 16:31 |
sdake | i/is | 16:31 |
Jeffrey4l | actually, it is 0:50 am now. Not too late. :P | 16:31 |
akwasnie | o/ | 16:31 |
jpeeler | hi | 16:31 |
Jeffrey4l | 0:30 am | 16:31 |
sdake | ahh thats not terrible | 16:31 |
elemoine | o/ | 16:31 |
sdake | but sstill not ideal | 16:31 |
Jeffrey4l | right.. | 16:32 |
sdake | and to our other apac attendees, we are going to fix the meeting times to fit an apac schedule half the time | 16:32 |
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inc0 | yeha we need APAC-friendly meeting | 16:32 |
britthouser | 0/ | 16:32 |
sdake | #topic announcement | 16:32 |
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sdake | #undo | 16:32 |
Liuqing | inc0: agree | 16:32 |
openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x9522c50> | 16:32 |
sdake | #topic announcements | 16:32 |
*** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:32 | |
sdake | 1. there is a vote for meeting times for the APAC specific meeting for odd ISO weeks | 16:32 |
sdake | please vote on all the hours you can attend | 16:33 |
sdake | i will give preference to our apac + core members | 16:33 |
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sdake | for that meeting time | 16:33 |
SamYaple | spliting the meeting between weeks like this still splits the team into two cores essentially, with a bit of overlap | 16:33 |
sdake | this mean emea wil probably get short end of stick for this meeting | 16:33 |
sdake | i disagree, but we can discuss further on mailing list if you like SamYaple - please respond to the thread | 16:34 |
inc0 | SamYaple, that's how it works, but AMR people can make sure to keep both teams in track | 16:34 |
sdake | 2. our midcycle is ready to rock - February 9th 10th, please schedule your flights now | 16:34 |
sdake | breakfast/lunch/dinner is provided the 9th, breakfast/lucnh provided the 10th | 16:34 |
elemoine | the time of the "emea" meeting won't change? | 16:34 |
sdake | we are concluding at 3:30 PM on the 10th for our wesst coast folks to catch a flight home wednesday | 16:35 |
sdake | elemoine yes the existing meeting will stay intact on even weeks | 16:35 |
sdake | that is emea/us timezone friendly | 16:35 |
elemoine | sdake, ok | 16:35 |
sdake | please RSVP for the midcycle - also note the facilities don't offer phone service, so it will be difficult to have remote participation | 16:36 |
sdake | I am going to put my cell lphone in the center o the room on speaker so folks can listen in, and connect it ot webex, but fwiw, it wont be very interactive | 16:36 |
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sdake | so really recommend getting budget to attend in person | 16:36 |
Liuqing | cool | 16:36 |
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sdake | 3. .21st is our dealdine for mitaka 2, I am tagging in the afternoon tomorrow, so please wrap up any work you think is necessary for mitaka -2 | 16:37 |
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sdake | also please update the state of bugs/llaunchpad tracker blueprints to match existing work | 16:37 |
inc0 | sdake, can you borrow one of these fancy cisco conference microphones and hook it up to phone?;) | 16:37 |
sdake | (21st is tomorrow, so I will be tagging in 24 hours) | 16:38 |
sdake | inc0 I don't work in an office, so I can't get that kind of gear ufnortunately | 16:38 |
sdake | are there any announcements from the community? | 16:38 |
sdake | here is the meeting agenda: | 16:39 |
sdake | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Kolla | 16:39 |
sdake | #topic mitaka-2 announcement | 16:39 |
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ajafo_ | o/ | 16:39 |
sdake | I will be announcing after the tag | 16:39 |
sdake | so lets put all mitaka-1 and mitaka-2 changefs in the announcement please | 16:40 |
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sdake | lets sort it by what went inn mitaka-1 vs what is going in mitaka-2 | 16:40 |
sdake | #link #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/announce-kolla-mitaka-2 | 16:40 |
sdake | timeboxed to maxx 15 minutes | 16:40 |
sdake | so 55 after we will move on | 16:40 |
sdake | #link #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/announce-kolla-mitaka-2 | 16:40 |
sdake | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/announce-kolla-mitaka-2 | 16:40 |
sdake | ugh sorry :) | 16:40 |
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sdake | can i get some help writing thi folks :) | 16:45 |
sdake | the launchpad for mitaka-1 is completely accurate | 16:46 |
sdake | mitaka-2 less so | 16:46 |
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nihilifer | are we going to mention about drop-root stuff? | 16:50 |
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SamYaple | nihilifer: through it up there | 16:53 |
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ajafo_ | should we mention about implementation some ubuntu binary containers? | 16:53 |
SamYaple | ajafo_: yea! throw it up there | 16:54 |
SamYaple | good progress on ubuntu-binary implementation | 16:54 |
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sdake | ok i'm going to extend the timebox | 16:56 |
sdake | lets give it 4 more minutes | 16:56 |
* sdake breaks all the rules :) | 16:56 | |
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ajafo_ | and new containers? like mistral? | 16:59 |
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SamYaple | ajafo_: always | 17:00 |
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sdake | ok i want to finish the job on this announcement | 17:01 |
sdake | announcements are one of our most important items | 17:01 |
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sdake | so i'll extend time box 5 more minutes | 17:01 |
sdake | please finish in that allotted itme, I am definately moving on at 5 after | 17:01 |
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sdake | please dont remove color from etherpad | 17:03 |
sdake | it helps folks understand who contributed what | 17:03 |
sdake | (to the etherpad session) | 17:03 |
SamYaple | alright | 17:04 |
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SamYaple | sdake: 10 minutes past the original time ;) | 17:05 |
sdake | ya | 17:05 |
sdake | we are movign on | 17:05 |
sdake | thanks folks | 17:05 |
ajafo_ | I've got some problems with colours see other write in other :) | 17:05 |
sdake | that took longer then I thought it owuld | 17:05 |
sdake | ssecond let me find agenda in my sea of windows | 17:06 |
sdake | if someone could fix up that prestage language on the timing so its not so awkward I'd apprecaiate it | 17:06 |
sdake | #topic Upgrade Status | 17:06 |
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inc0 | ok | 17:06 |
sdake | inc0 and friends, mind giving an update on current status | 17:06 |
inc0 | so we got keystone merged \o/ | 17:06 |
sdake | and tested | 17:07 |
inc0 | which means other projects are green to go and follow playbook structure of ks | 17:07 |
sdake | in 3 node ha | 17:07 |
sdake | inc0 nova? | 17:07 |
inc0 | in review, need to address comments and so on | 17:07 |
inc0 | but that's on me | 17:07 |
nihilifer | i unfortunately didn't made progress with neutron upgrade, but i'd try to do this this week | 17:07 |
nihilifer | i'll* | 17:08 |
inc0 | so nihilifer will do neutron | 17:08 |
sdake | nihilifer march - need sto be done by march :) | 17:08 |
nihilifer | ok | 17:08 |
elemoine | btw, kudos on the upgrade work, it's a major thing! | 17:08 |
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inc0 | we still need cinder play and other services | 17:08 |
SamYaple | where is the list of who is assigned what for upgrades? | 17:08 |
sdake | sooner obviously better | 17:08 |
sdake | yes ugprade is super huge | 17:08 |
inc0 | most of them are really simple | 17:08 |
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sdake | ok so i'll take na action to create the work items for the master upgrade task | 17:08 |
inc0 | SamYaple, we have bps per project | 17:08 |
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inc0 | if it's assigned, its assigned | 17:08 |
sdake | #action sdake to make work items in upgrade-kolla blueprint | 17:08 |
sdake | i'll do that after my meeting with inc0 | 17:09 |
inc0 | its already done;)( | 17:09 |
sdake | then i'll announce on ml that we are in need of contributors for that work | 17:09 |
sdake | the work iteems? | 17:09 |
SamYaple | bps per project is a bit overkill, this is what work items are for | 17:09 |
sdake | are in upgrade-kolla? | 17:09 |
sdake | cool | 17:09 |
inc0 | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla?searchtext=upgrade | 17:09 |
sdake | we decided in this case to do separeate bps because the work may be signifciantly unique per service | 17:09 |
sdake | anyway whats done is done | 17:09 |
sdake | we are tracking everything in the master blueprint as well as individual blueprints | 17:10 |
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SamYaple | for some, yea. like nova and neutron, but as stated most will not | 17:10 |
SamYaple | something to keep in mind for the future | 17:10 |
sdake | agree SamYaple | 17:10 |
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inc0 | so most of services, like heat for example will be super simple in terms of play | 17:10 |
sdake | fwiw I wanted oen blueprint, but the project has a mind of its own :) | 17:10 |
sdake | #topic heka status | 17:10 |
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inc0 | and generally follow keystone case | 17:10 |
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sdake | inc0 gotta move on, we aree itght on time, sorry :) | 17:10 |
akwasnie | there is also a master bp that agregate the rest https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/upgrade-kolla | 17:11 |
sdake | inc0 but we will get this kicking on the mailing list today | 17:11 |
sdake | elemoine you have the floor | 17:11 |
elemoine | on heka | 17:11 |
elemoine | so, currently working on Heka for Kolla PoCs, to figure out if we'll still need Rsyslog | 17:11 |
elemoine | first PoC I've been focusing on is "Use Heka to collect OpenStack logs". This relies on the OpenStack services writing their logs to stderr. | 17:11 |
elemoine | my work is in <https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269745/> | 17:12 |
elemoine | I have a couple observations already | 17:12 |
elemoine | I had to make the OpenStack services write their logs to stderr instead of stdout. stdout is buffered somewhere and I cannot make it available to neither "docker logs" nor Heka | 17:12 |
sdake | hmm | 17:13 |
elemoine | I really don't know what's going on here | 17:13 |
SamYaple | So i reaised a question on this elemoine | 17:13 |
elemoine | and I think Angus experienced the same issue in kolla-mesos | 17:13 |
SamYaple | what of services that have multiple logs, how will logging work? | 17:13 |
SamYaple | i dont think we can use stdout/err like you purpose | 17:13 |
elemoine | yeah, we will need a way to know where the logs come from | 17:14 |
elemoine | I need to think about this | 17:14 |
elemoine | good question SamYaple | 17:14 |
sdake | elemoine any progress on getting the spec into the repo? | 17:14 |
elemoine | other observation: | 17:15 |
elemoine | Heka cannot access the logs if the container is run with tty set to true. It may be a bug in Heka or in an upstream module. I don't know. | 17:15 |
elemoine | sdake, I'll do that tomorrow | 17:15 |
sdake | elemoine soundsgood | 17:15 |
elemoine | have been focusing on the PoC | 17:15 |
sdake | there is always tomorroow :) | 17:15 |
elemoine | sdake, it's late here already :) | 17:16 |
sdake | just kidding around | 17:16 |
sdake | its an old idiom in the united states | 17:16 |
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elemoine | so there's this tty problem | 17:16 |
sdake | so i think we need more of a rsyslo type action, where data comes from /dev/log instead of coming from stderr | 17:16 |
sdake | that way the logs can be sorted into their proper streams | 17:17 |
sdake | if we get this in a spec we can discuss it there | 17:17 |
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sdake | so we dont end up wasting your time on courses of developemnt which wont yeild a positve outcome ;) | 17:17 |
sdake | any other updates elemoine ? | 17:17 |
elemoine | I still need to be sure we won't able to use stdout | 17:18 |
elemoine | stderr IÂ mean | 17:18 |
sdake | wfm | 17:18 |
elemoine | that's all for me | 17:18 |
sdake | ok i'm going to move on, since our agenda is tight on time and i want to give everyone equal time | 17:18 |
sdake | #topic Kolla Python API | 17:18 |
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sdake | not sure who put htis on the agenda | 17:18 |
sdake | but whoever it was, you have the floor | 17:18 |
nihilifer | i putted it | 17:18 |
nihilifer | Angus registered a bp https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/kolla-python-api | 17:18 |
nihilifer | to have a python api for kolla | 17:19 |
sdake | cool i remember the irc conversation | 17:19 |
Liuqing | nihilifer: will have another project for kolla python api? | 17:19 |
sdake | I am in favor of his ideas adn his thinking here | 17:19 |
nihilifer | the problem is that both kolla and kolla-mesos have to be configured via /etc files | 17:19 |
nihilifer | or have some bash scripts | 17:19 |
nihilifer | that would make integrating kolla with anything (i.e. fuel) hard | 17:20 |
Jeffrey4l | Is it the same like oracle's python-kollaclient? | 17:20 |
sdake | Jeffrey4l no completely different topci ithink | 17:20 |
nihilifer | Jeffrey4l: maybe similar | 17:20 |
sdake | well what do I know ;) | 17:20 |
nihilifer | so, we would like to have a python library, to which we can push the whole configuration in some serializable format | 17:20 |
nihilifer | instead of editing files | 17:20 |
sdake | ok well this is a big change | 17:21 |
nihilifer | i'm welcome for propositions of technical implementation | 17:21 |
sdake | and need sto be discussed on the mailing list for wider community visiblity | 17:21 |
nihilifer | Angus and me will of course make a ML and spec | 17:21 |
sdake | spec may not be necessary | 17:21 |
sdake | lets focus on the mailign list discussion first | 17:22 |
nihilifer | now i just wanted you to be aware of this idea | 17:22 |
sdake | our typical process is to discuss the ideas in the blueprint | 17:22 |
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sdake | make sure to suggest that in the mailing list thread | 17:22 |
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nihilifer | sdake: ok | 17:22 |
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sdake | blueprint is where we sort of hash out hte design | 17:22 |
sdake | if it needs more detail, then we write a spec | 17:22 |
nihilifer | got it | 17:23 |
sdake | especially if its contentious or the community is not in compelte agreeement on course of action | 17:23 |
* elemoine confuses bp and specs I believe | 17:23 | |
sdake | nihilifer anything further? | 17:23 |
nihilifer | on this topic, no | 17:23 |
nihilifer | i think we can move on | 17:23 |
sdake | #topic OpenStack configuration without kolla-ansible (as a container) | 17:23 |
sdake | * Open Discussion | 17:23 |
SamYaple | I have topic | 17:23 |
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sdake | 3 minutes on config without kolla ansible, then sam your up for 3 mins | 17:24 |
nihilifer | well, currenltly we're doing the most of config tasks | 17:24 |
sdake | nihilifer di you add this agenda item? | 17:24 |
nihilifer | like creating tenants in openstack | 17:24 |
nihilifer | sdake: yes | 17:24 |
sdake | folks if you could add your name next to the agenda item, i'd super appreciate it in the future | 17:24 |
SamYaple | i would like to add that kolla-ansible container only exists to containerize dependancies. its completely possible to be without kolla-ansible..... by pushing the deps to the hosts | 17:25 |
nihilifer | ok, so for now we're using ansible for creating tenats or any other entities in openstack | 17:25 |
sdake | nihilifer we dont want a bunch of deps on the host | 17:25 |
sdake | that is why kolla-ansible exists | 17:25 |
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sdake | so keep that in mind when proposing whateveer change you have in mind :) | 17:26 |
nihilifer | ok. but we can create entities in openstack just by openstacclient, can't we? | 17:26 |
SamYaple | nihilifer: that requries host deps | 17:26 |
sdake | openstackclient installs a whole slew of host deps | 17:26 |
SamYaple | but yes | 17:26 |
sdake | like 30 or more | 17:26 |
inc0 | nihilifer, and openstackclient has a lot of deps | 17:26 |
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Liuqing | how about using openstacksdk? | 17:26 |
nihilifer | well, i thought about keeping them in container | 17:26 |
SamYaple | thats koll-ansible :P | 17:26 |
SamYaple | we can rename it | 17:26 |
pbourke | ha | 17:26 |
SamYaple | kolla-toolbox | 17:26 |
inc0 | well, it uses shade | 17:26 |
sdake | oh is the objection the name? | 17:26 |
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sdake | or how its implemented? | 17:27 |
inc0 | but shade uses openstackclient | 17:27 |
sdake | SamYaple cn your topic overflow into #kolla after our meeting? | 17:27 |
SamYaple | its rather important | 17:27 |
sdake | ok nihilifer - please start a ml thread | 17:27 |
SamYaple | gates b0rked. need this patch merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270031/ | 17:27 |
sdake | #topic sam's topic | 17:27 |
nihilifer | ok | 17:27 |
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SamYaple | gates b0rked. need this patch merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270031/ | 17:27 |
SamYaple | parent patch here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270070/1 | 17:28 |
SamYaple | once gate is fixed we need to address this new pip issue | 17:28 |
sdake | SamYaple i have meeting right now, but will review after it cinclude sif its not merged | 17:28 |
pbourke | SamYaple: we just need to wait till pip release a fix | 17:28 |
SamYaple | the patch above is a quick temp fix to get things building again | 17:28 |
pbourke | SamYaple: there's already one proposed | 17:28 |
pbourke | afaik | 17:28 |
SamYaple | pbourke: ok good info to have | 17:28 |
SamYaple | but i thought this was a long time coming thing | 17:28 |
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SamYaple | its been WARNING us ofr a while | 17:28 |
sdake | pbourke can you hunt down when the patch is going to be merged | 17:28 |
SamYaple | so ill be suprised if this is "fixed" | 17:29 |
Jeffrey4l | yep. Wait for a pip fix will take long. | 17:29 |
pbourke | Jeffrey4l linked it on the bug I think | 17:29 |
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pbourke | https://github.com/pypa/pip/pull/3389 | 17:29 |
sdake | 1 minute | 17:29 |
sdake | apologies for mismanaging the time for our meetingagenda | 17:29 |
SamYaple | ok i think we need to move back to channel | 17:29 |
Liuqing | and we could bump to latest pip until the bug fixed in pip | 17:29 |
SamYaple | i rasied the issue, everyone is aware now | 17:29 |
sdake | but releae annoouncements are the 3rd most important thing we do as a project :) | 17:29 |
sdake | thanks sam | 17:29 |
sdake | thanks for coming folks, we are out of time | 17:30 |
pbourke | bye | 17:30 |
sdake | #endmeeting | 17:30 |
Jeffrey4l | bye | 17:30 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 17:30 | |
akwasnie | thanks | 17:30 |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 20 17:30:15 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:30 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-01-20-16.30.html | 17:30 |
elemoine | bye | 17:30 |
nihilifer | bye | 17:30 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-01-20-16.30.txt | 17:30 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-01-20-16.30.log.html | 17:30 |
Liuqing | :-) | 17:30 |
ajafo_ | bye | 17:30 |
dougwig | #startmeeting networking_lib | 17:30 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 20 17:30:29 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dougwig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:30 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:30 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_lib)" | 17:30 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_lib' | 17:30 |
dougwig | anyone here this morning? | 17:30 |
SamYaple | sorry for overage dougwig | 17:30 |
sdake | sam i already apologied :) | 17:30 |
pc_m | hi | 17:31 |
dougwig | absolutely no worries, sdake SamYaple . :) | 17:31 |
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dougwig | pc_m: looks like it's you and me. | 17:33 |
dougwig | agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Lib/Meetings | 17:33 |
dougwig | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Lib/Meetings | 17:33 |
pc_m | maybe a different time would be appropriate for the IRC? | 17:33 |
dougwig | not a bad thought. i think we could go later than a typical meeting, given who is usually involved. | 17:34 |
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dougwig | #topic Current Work Items | 17:34 |
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dougwig | just to highlight stuff that needs eyes... | 17:35 |
dougwig | RPC routines and a 'legacy' section | 17:35 |
dougwig | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267807/ | 17:35 |
dougwig | note that the above is about more than rpc. it introduces a section in the library for things we need to move, but aren't super fond of the interface. | 17:35 |
dougwig | Moving base db gunk | 17:35 |
dougwig | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267214/ | 17:35 |
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HenryG | I will post a new patch set on that today | 17:36 |
dougwig | and this one is henry's, setting up how to do the base model stuff. he says it's getting opinionated, but that's probably a good thing. | 17:36 |
HenryG | I tried to get rid of common_db_mixin, but that did not go well | 17:36 |
dougwig | kill it with fire. | 17:36 |
HenryG | unfortunately it is used in aweful ways :( | 17:37 |
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dougwig | can we get rid of it, or are we stuck with mixins? | 17:37 |
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HenryG | not sure yet | 17:38 |
dougwig | anything you want to chat about, or should we wait for the next patchset? | 17:39 |
HenryG | We can discuss in next patchset | 17:39 |
dougwig | ok | 17:39 |
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dougwig | #topic Open Discussion | 17:40 |
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dougwig | pc_m: let's talk about neutron tests first? | 17:40 |
pc_m | ok | 17:40 |
pc_m | My latest change fixed the API test. | 17:41 |
dougwig | for the hook, i noticed that you might also be able to use LIBS_FROM_GIT instead of doing the git clone | 17:41 |
pc_m | Did not fix the LB test (but I didn't check why it failed). | 17:41 |
dougwig | and for the non hook tests, i think we have several *very similar* jobs in the experimental queue that are actually controlled by hooks now, so we could cover that base there. | 17:41 |
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pc_m | There are 4 tests, IIRC. | 17:42 |
dougwig | pc_m: lb test will likely have to be done here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242220/ | 17:42 |
dougwig | which ones? | 17:42 |
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dougwig | unless by lb you meant linuxbridge. it's hookless, so it'll just have to fail. | 17:43 |
pc_m | gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full | 17:43 |
pc_m | gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron | 17:43 |
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pc_m | gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-dvr | 17:44 |
pc_m | gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-lib-linuxbridge | 17:44 |
pc_m | The LB one is gate-neutron-lbaasv2-dsvm-minimal | 17:44 |
pc_m | it has a gate hook, but failed. May be an unrelated failure. | 17:45 |
dougwig | , so -dvr and -linuxbridge are the same as -full, but with dvr and LB. i think we can ignore those two. -plus in the experimental queue is -full with a few extra things turned on, so it can provide coverage there. | 17:45 |
pc_m | I recall, before I went on PTO, some failure with that test. | 17:45 |
dougwig | since these are just pre-release sanity checks. | 17:45 |
pc_m | So do we want to make them non-voting (the two)? | 17:46 |
dougwig | no, because it's only in that one review where they fail. hmm, so this is about how to test that changes to neutron work against lib changes, before those changes are released. maybe we can flip this around and make a neutron-lib change that is dependent on the neutron fixes, once this merges: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/268240/ | 17:47 |
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dougwig | if api and unit are passing, that's actually a pretty good sanity screen, too. | 17:49 |
pc_m | dougwig: not quite sure I'm following. | 17:50 |
dougwig | i think maybe we just update the process for making changes to note which tests you should expect to pass/fail ? | 17:50 |
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* pc_m sorry - I'm still in PTO mode | 17:51 | |
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pc_m | How does 268240 help? | 17:52 |
dougwig | pc_m: we're talking about item 4 in 'submission procedures' on this page https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/Lib . We don't need infra changes for that, just enough info from existing tests to know if neutron related lib changes are correct, before the lib changes ship (because it's easier to do them at the same time.) for that, we don't need a perfect | 17:52 |
dougwig | pass rate. right? | 17:52 |
dougwig | pc_m: no worries, let's chat offline. | 17:52 |
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pc_m | dougwig: OK. Would like to clearly understand the procedure for migrating. | 17:53 |
dougwig | ok | 17:53 |
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dougwig | anything else to chat about today? | 17:53 |
pc_m | Unfortuantely, I don't right now. | 17:53 |
pc_m | Do you want to move neutron-lib to using constraints based jobs? | 17:53 |
pc_m | I did this for VPN. Can do it for neutron-lib, if desired. | 17:54 |
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dougwig | yes, but there is a change to how that's done as of yesterday's TC meeting. | 17:54 |
dougwig | no more -constraints jobs. just constrain the normal jobs. | 17:54 |
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pc_m | ok. Any pointers to outcome of that meeting/changes?\ | 17:54 |
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* pc_m wondering how it affects the VPN changes done/ | 17:55 | |
dougwig | meeting minutes are likely the only thing so far. they'll have a link to the resolution that was passed. | 17:55 |
pc_m | will look at them. | 17:56 |
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dougwig | ok, anything else, or we get a half hour back ? | 17:57 |
pc_m | nope | 17:57 |
HenryG | nope | 17:57 |
dougwig | #endmeeting | 17:57 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 20 17:57:34 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:57 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_lib/2016/networking_lib.2016-01-20-17.30.html | 17:57 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_lib/2016/networking_lib.2016-01-20-17.30.txt | 17:57 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_lib/2016/networking_lib.2016-01-20-17.30.log.html | 17:57 |
dougwig | #endmeeting | 17:57 |
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