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| flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k | 14:00 |
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| flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishekk, bunting | 14:00 |
| flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat | 14:00 |
| flaper87 | #startmeeting Glance | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 7 14:00:37 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is flaper87. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| flaper87 | o/ | 14:00 |
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| jokke_ | o/ | 14:00 |
| avarner_ | \o | 14:00 |
| sigmavirus24 | \o | 14:01 |
| jokke_ | Happy New Year every1! | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | Indeed. Happy new year! | 14:01 |
| sabari | o/ | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | hope you all had an amazing time off | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | for those that took time off | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | and that actually celebrate this thing | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | otherwise, carry on. | 14:02 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 14:02 |
| flaper87 | mmh, there are just 4 of us. | 14:02 |
| flaper87 | 5 | 14:02 |
| flaper87 | one more and we can start for realz | 14:02 |
| flaper87 | or I'll just ignore the missing folks and we'll start anyway :P | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | #topic Agenda | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Agenda (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:03 | |
| flaper87 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | That's our agenda, as usual. Please, add new topics at the bottom if there are things you'd like to talk about. | 14:03 |
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| flaper87 | I don't think we'll go through it, entirely, as there are some topics that I'd rather touch with a broader audience | 14:03 |
| kragniz | o/ | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | For instance, we'll skip the artifacts updates as I don't see alex, nikhil nor mfedosin around | 14:04 |
| hemanthm | o/ | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | #topic Updates Drivers | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Updates Drivers (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:04 | |
| flaper87 | Ok, we skipped 2 meetings (I was on holidays on Tuesday and I don't think anyone took over) | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | But we still have some updates | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | The image import spec landed | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | w00000h00000 | 14:05 |
| sabari | Yey! | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | (this is the part where rosmaita pastes the link using #link) | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | dang | 14:05 |
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| jokke_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232371 | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | So, I believe the major changes have been laid down on the spec and that it doesn't require major refactors. | 14:05 |
| jokke_ | sorry Brian | 14:05 |
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| flaper87 | If you think there are teaks and things that could be improved or just entirely horrible then, please, propose a follow-up patch | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/glance-specs/specs/mitaka/approved/image-import/image-import-refactor.html | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | it's a git repo and we have gerrit | 14:06 |
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| rosmaita | stuart has some reservations that i want to address | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | right, I still need to get back to those | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | I'd like to propose to Stuart to discuss those in a follow-up patch w/ his idea | 14:07 |
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| flaper87 | I believe it'd help clearing out what he exactly wants we can comment *just* on that change | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | yes, we can enhance the "alternatives" section | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | That being said, please, to everyone assigned to that spec. GET TO TI! | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | IT, even | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | Time is running out even for the implementation so, we should start asap | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | I've a patch up already | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | and there are some spec lite bugs that folks can start poking on: | 14:08 |
| * flaper87 gets the link | 14:08 | |
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| flaper87 | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bugs?field.tag=mitaka-new-import-process | 14:08 |
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| flaper87 | I kicked off the work taking the very first one | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | Do help with the rest if you have some spare cycles | 14:08 |
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| flaper87 | ok, I don't have anything else | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: ? | 14:09 |
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| flaper87 | I'll take that as a no | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | no, just the ovf spec FFE | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:10 |
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| flaper87 | right, lets talk about it in the next driver's meeting | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | (sorry, coffee has not yet got to my fingers this morning) | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | ok | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | we'll have to extend the SFE week a bit | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | cuz holidays | 14:10 |
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| flaper87 | ok, moving on | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | (or we can talk about it at the end of the meeting) | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | #topic Glance virtual mid-cycle in mid M-2 | 14:11 |
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| flaper87 | I'll skip the artifact's topic as I need the artifacts folks to be around | 14:11 |
| jokke_ | flaper87: you skipped the ova as well | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | Ok, planning to organize a glance virtual mid-cycle. We have the technology, we now need to figure out a time-slot | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: erm, ops? :P | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | I'll get back to it | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | man, coffee... moar coffee | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | MOAR MOAR! | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | you can tell I just got back from holidays *today* | 14:13 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:13 |
| flaper87 | anyway, I'll send a poll out to the mailing list with time slots | 14:13 |
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| jokke_ | So back to the topic, what's the technology and how long one is in the plans? | 14:13 |
| flaper87 | Instead of tackling everything during the same day, I've been thinking we could spread 1 day across the week in 1 or 2 hours that could work for most folks | 14:13 |
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| flaper87 | For instance, everyday at ~13UTC for 1 week (this is just an example, not the actual slot) | 14:14 |
| jokke_ | that's horrible idea ... if we need a day, 2 half days would be ok, but please don't use shotgun to the calendar approach | 14:14 |
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| rosmaita | hmmm ... i was just going to say, it's worth a try, but maybe jokke_ has a point | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | right, the problem with that is that some ppl won't be able to attend. | 14:15 |
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| jokke_ | at least for us, it seems that most of the video conferencing stuff does not work from the office so having an hour in middle of day every day for a week means that I won't be participating to most of it | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: mmh | 14:15 |
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| flaper87 | ok, I'll put both options on the email | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | maybe 3 2-hour slots across 3 days? | 14:16 |
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| flaper87 | rosmaita: yeah, I had something like that in mind. | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | I do see jokke_'s point. Definitely not going to do a full-day thing | 14:17 |
| flaper87 | It also depends on the topics | 14:17 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 14:17 |
| nikhil | what are approx dates? | 14:17 |
| flaper87 | I'm sure artifacts and image import will be there | 14:17 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: >=Jan16 | 14:18 |
| nikhil | gotcha | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | ok, lets see what others have to say in the m-l. TL;DR: I'd like to increase attendance and ease the choice of days one would attend | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | if someone is not interested in the import refactor work, that person can simply skip that day | 14:19 |
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| flaper87 | FWIW, I don't think it's such a crazy thing to ask for just 1 week (not the entire week, as rosmaita said, perhaps 3 days) | 14:20 |
| flaper87 | anyway, anything else ppl would like to add ? | 14:20 |
| * flaper87 hopes he's still on-line | 14:20 | |
| rosmaita | sounds good, let's see what the response is | 14:20 |
| flaper87 | ok | 14:20 |
| flaper87 | #topic Preparing for next cycle (flaper87) | 14:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Preparing for next cycle (flaper87) (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:21 | |
| flaper87 | I'd like to briefly talk about this but I'll likely mention it again next week | 14:22 |
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| flaper87 | Whether or not I'll be running for the PTL position for the N cycle, I'd like to encourage ppl to run for that position. Furthermore, I'd like to help this folks prepare as much as possible for the candidacy and the next cycle. | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | In addition to that, I'd also like to work with these folks on scheduling long term plans and working out ideas for N that might be impacted by our work in M | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | So, this is a call for ppl willing/hoping/planning to run for Glance PTL in N to reach out | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | I don't think there's anything wrong in "revealing" these plans in advance | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | if anything, I think it just helps the project | 14:24 |
| dhellmann | ++, it would be great to have a strong group of folks working together on project leadership | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | And again, I'd like to encourage ppl to do this and run for Glance PTL | 14:25 |
| jokke_ | flaper87: any examples in mind for that second (items in N affected by M)? | 14:25 |
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| nikhil | So, if this is just a call for candidacy I will wait. If the topic is broader and suggests bringing up pain points and potential specs for N I do have a few things. | 14:25 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: There are follow-up works to do on the import refactor, for instance. | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: what flaper87 said | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | (it was -7 C this morning, my fingers have not yet warmed up) | 14:26 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: it's not a formal call for candidacy. It's a "if you are planning to run for it, whether you end up doing so or not, I'd love to know that and work with you" | 14:26 |
| flaper87 | Especially for folks that have never run for a PTL position and would like to give it a try | 14:27 |
| nikhil | flaper87: gotcha, and I have a few things brought up to me in my company meetings that people want to see in glance in 2016 | 14:27 |
| sigmavirus24 | ++ for a larger group of candidates in N | 14:27 |
| flaper87 | One thing I've always said (and I stand by it) is that one of PTL's job is to create new PTLs | 14:27 |
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| sigmavirus24 | It's hard enough choosing between 2 excellent candidates. Having to choose between more than 2 will be excruciating :P | 14:27 |
| flaper87 | and I'd like to do that, I'd love to see more leadership in Glance | 14:27 |
| flaper87 | sigmavirus24: :D | 14:28 |
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| flaper87 | ok, I'll bring it again next week when there'll be more ppl around | 14:28 |
| flaper87 | bring it up* | 14:28 |
| jokke_ | sigmavirus24: not only selecting between them, but putting them in your priority order :P | 14:28 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: I'm all ears for those things. Want to add them to next week's agenda? | 14:29 |
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| nikhil | I like the general idea of anticipant the potential code changes in next cycle and helping with candidacy accordingly | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | also, happy to discuss them in -glance or the m-l | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | coolio | 14:29 |
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| nikhil | meaning helping people vote on candidates etc | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | I'd also like to help people become candidates. There's lost of potential in this team | 14:30 |
| nikhil | lots* | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | ok, I don't have anything else to say in this topic | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: lol, yeah! | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | (facepalm) | 14:31 |
| * flaper87 obviously meant lots, hope that was clear | 14:31 | |
| flaper87 | okidoki | 14:31 |
| flaper87 | back to the drivers and SFE | 14:31 |
| flaper87 | #topic Preparing for next cycle (flaper87) | 14:31 |
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| flaper87 | ops | 14:31 |
| flaper87 | #topic OVF SFE | 14:32 |
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| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/194868 | 14:32 |
| flaper87 | ok, there's a SFE request for that spec. I know jokke_ has some thoughts about it as he has mentioned them in previous meetings | 14:33 |
| mclaren | how does this play with the image import work? | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | As I mentioned on the spec and the mailing list thread, I believe it's fine to help this spec move forward as it won't impact our priorities and the code is already on gerrit | 14:33 |
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| mclaren | do we plan to allow importing ovfs using the new import method? | 14:34 |
| flaper87 | It does not impact the image import work as the implementation is in a task. My comments suggested to have *just* the task implemented | 14:34 |
| jokke_ | so for some reason I didn't get to vote on the spec, but if that one question of mine gets reasoned/answers I'd be +1 for letting that in at this stage still considering the amount of efforts and patience the OVA folks have demonstrated and that proposal looks really reasonable to me | 14:34 |
| mclaren | so there won't be an api to import an ovf until after the new import work is completed? | 14:35 |
| nikhil | so, this was basically dragged into SFE as we waiting on import work approval, is that so? | 14:35 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: yes | 14:35 |
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| flaper87 | nikhil: right | 14:35 |
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| flaper87 | we were waiting to see if it would have impacted the image import work | 14:35 |
| mclaren | yes there won't or yes there will? | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: you were commenting on patch 20 when patch 21 was the latest ... the new interface won't allow you to vote unless you are commenting on the current PS | 14:35 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: oh darn ... makes sense | 14:36 |
| nikhil | I am okay with it in that case, my stance has been +2 on them limiting this to admin only and task only (non-standard import of ovf) | 14:36 |
| jokke_ | nikhil: yes I did like that as well | 14:36 |
| mclaren | so an admin will be able to import an ovf before the other import spec is completed? | 14:36 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: The task API, which will be moved under admin only (and the task admin only) there won't be any public API allowing this to be used | 14:36 |
| flaper87 | The plugging between this and the new image import can be done in N | 14:36 |
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| mclaren | ok, but it can be exposed to users if the deployer wants | 14:37 |
| nikhil | flaper87: oh wait, has this been publicized? this == task becoming admin only | 14:37 |
| flaper87 | It has but it needs more noise | 14:37 |
| nikhil | I am not sure how my team is gunna play with that | 14:38 |
| nikhil | adds an item to check | 14:38 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: well, yeah. TBH, deployers could do anything | 14:38 |
| flaper87 | The default is that it's not public, it's not consumable publicly and it won't be until the new image import is completed | 14:39 |
| mclaren | I'm not talking about 'anything' I'm talking about using APIs | 14:39 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: I understand what you're saying. What I'm saying is that the default and recommended configs don't suggest that | 14:39 |
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| mclaren | it's just not clear why we're working on two separate apis to import ovfs at the same time | 14:39 |
| flaper87 | we are not working on 2 separate APIs | 14:40 |
| flaper87 | There's a task API that exists already that we're working on deprecating | 14:40 |
| mclaren | I thought there was an admin api? | 14:40 |
| flaper87 | jeeez | 14:40 |
| flaper87 | So | 14:40 |
| flaper87 | there's the task API | 14:40 |
| flaper87 | it exists already | 14:40 |
| flaper87 | it's in glance | 14:40 |
| flaper87 | and we want to move it to admin only | 14:40 |
| flaper87 | it's usable | 14:40 |
| sabari | import ovf's would just be alongside conversion/introspection tasks. | 14:40 |
| flaper87 | and tasks could be plugged to it already | 14:40 |
| sabari | and we need to refactor all of them when the new import process lands. | 14:40 |
| sabari | right / | 14:40 |
| flaper87 | The spec does not suggest using the OVF in any of those APIs | 14:41 |
| flaper87 | The spec proposes implementing the *task* that could be, eventually, run by such API that exists already | 14:41 |
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| mclaren | there will be a functional test which tests an api which imports an ovf? | 14:41 |
| flaper87 | What we're doing (and this is in the image import refactor spec) is moving the current, not wanted, task API to admin only | 14:41 |
| flaper87 | there will be a functional tests that tests the task engine and the OVF import | 14:42 |
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| flaper87 | not the API calling it | 14:42 |
| flaper87 | The functional tests will test the task *engine* | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | not the task API | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | is that clearer ? | 14:43 |
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| flaper87 | At least, that's what I expect to see | 14:43 |
| * flaper87 re-reads the spec and makes sure it's correctly explained there | 14:43 | |
| sabari | that's my understanding too | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | me three | 14:44 |
| jokke_ | me four | 14:44 |
| flaper87 | ok, please, folks. Give the spec another read, ping maliniB on IRC if there's something urgent to address and then vote on the spec | 14:45 |
| mclaren | how does that task get exercised / used by an admin who wants to import an ovf? | 14:45 |
| flaper87 | I'll review it tomorrow again | 14:45 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: I don't mean to come out harsh ubt I'd really recommend you to take a look at the current task API and how it works. | 14:45 |
| sabari | the way this works is no different from conversion/introspection tasks we have currently. | 14:45 |
| flaper87 | It's the only way ppl can trigger tasks right now until the new image import is done | 14:45 |
| nikhil | IIUC, it checks the context.admin value | 14:46 |
| flaper87 | but again, we're moving away from it and the spec does not recommend using that API, which is what I care about as far as the OVF spec goes | 14:46 |
| nikhil | so, I think what mclaren is asking is | 14:46 |
| flaper87 | Also, the code does this already | 14:46 |
| flaper87 | IIRC | 14:46 |
| nikhil | this task API would be exposed publicly to let the admins use it, but it's a bad experience for the users as it's visible (and may be confusing) | 14:47 |
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| nikhil | or are we recommending the operators to run another set of glance-api nodes that having admin only access and enable this ovf import? | 14:48 |
| flaper87 | I don't think we're recommending anything as far as the API goes. The recommendation is (and will be) to simply don't use the task API and hoefully forget it ever existed | 14:49 |
| flaper87 | If people use it (and they likely will) they'll need to figure out the best way to do so without shooting themselves on the foot | 14:49 |
| flaper87 | Not sure if I'm explaining myself, tbh. | 14:50 |
| flaper87 | Anyway, 10mins left | 14:50 |
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| flaper87 | lets discuss this on the spec | 14:50 |
| flaper87 | #topic Open Discussion | 14:50 |
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| nikhil | so, there's a plan for "openstack hackathon" | 14:51 |
| nikhil | for 3 days in the week of Feb 29 | 14:51 |
| nikhil | and I have been asked to look into the interest as it's gunna be hosted at IBM | 14:52 |
| flaper87 | nnniiice! | 14:52 |
| flaper87 | Where exactly? | 14:52 |
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| jokke_ | is that US thing or all around? | 14:52 |
| nikhil | the location is yet TBD and I am hoping to anticipate interest and give preference accordingly | 14:52 |
| nikhil | it's a world wide stuff | 14:53 |
| nikhil | so not necessarily focused groups | 14:53 |
| flaper87 | mmh, I think depending on the location I might be able to attend | 14:53 |
| nikhil | rather openstack wide devs meeting in a various places across globe | 14:53 |
| sabari | nikhil: that's awesome - any links ? | 14:53 |
| flaper87 | I think the idea is great, just not sure how it works with ppl's travel budget considering there are mid-cycles and summit | 14:54 |
| nikhil | I am currently told about potential China and US locations | 14:54 |
| flaper87 | still worth a try | 14:54 |
| nikhil | no link yet, this is in planning and I am organizing one group | 14:54 |
| nikhil | how likely are people to travel to NYC? | 14:55 |
| flaper87 | that's definitely easier for me and I like NYC :P | 14:55 |
| sabari | ah, I just did like last week :D but won't mind :P | 14:55 |
| flaper87 | not JFK, though | 14:55 |
| nikhil | I just need some initial head count to even say that we come up with a formal proposal for ML | 14:55 |
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| nikhil | btw, there's a UK location too | 14:56 |
| sabari | nikhil I can anytime travel to NYC :) | 14:56 |
| kragniz | whereabouts in the UK? | 14:56 |
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| * jokke_ woke up on the UK spot as well | 14:57 | |
| nikhil | kragniz: not sure, edinburg most likely | 14:57 |
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| kragniz | hmm, okay | 14:57 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: is that OpenStack hackathon or Glance ? | 14:57 |
| nikhil | Openstack hackathon | 14:57 |
| flaper87 | kk | 14:57 |
| nikhil | so you can choose to be at the place and group of your choice | 14:57 |
| nikhil | and we should be able to connect virtually as well | 14:58 |
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| nikhil | that week looks like a GTD week so I like the idea | 14:58 |
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| nikhil | so I will take a positive note back and come up with more info later | 14:59 |
| nikhil | thanks for the initial feedback | 14:59 |
| flaper87 | ++ | 14:59 |
| flaper87 | thanks for bringing it up | 14:59 |
| flaper87 | anything else? anyone ? | 14:59 |
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| flaper87 | take that as a no | 15:01 |
| flaper87 | thanks everyone! | 15:01 |
| jokke_ | thanks all | 15:01 |
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| flaper87 | Happy to be back to work and hacking with you all! | 15:01 |
| sabari | thanks | 15:01 |
| flaper87 | #endmeeting | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 7 15:01:23 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-01-07-14.00.html | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-01-07-14.00.txt | 15:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-01-07-14.00.log.html | 15:01 |
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| sjmc7 | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 7 15:01:35 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sjmc7. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack search)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search' | 15:01 |
| sjmc7 | Morning folks | 15:01 |
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| yingjun | Hi | 15:01 |
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| nikhil | Good morning! | 15:01 |
| sjmc7 | I’ll be MCing today, for a change | 15:01 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 15:01 |
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| sjmc7 | regular service will be resumed soon | 15:02 |
| GB21 | hi everyone | 15:02 |
| TravT | morning all. i'm here, but asked sjmc7 to run the show today. | 15:02 |
| nikhil | ++ | 15:02 |
| nikhil | GB21: glad to see you at this meeting | 15:02 |
| GB21 | likewise nikhil :D | 15:02 |
| sjmc7 | #topic General updates | 15:02 |
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| TravT | i'm still out recovering from knee surgery and just stepping in this morning | 15:02 |
| * david-lyle_ partially o/ | 15:03 | |
| GB21 | Happy new year to all | 15:03 |
| GB21 | :D | 15:03 |
| TravT | thx nikhil | 15:03 |
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| GB21 | gws TravT | 15:03 |
| sjmc7 | Meeting agenda at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda | 15:03 |
| sjmc7 | The only general update i’ve got is the mitaka-2 milestone in the third week of Jan | 15:04 |
| sjmc7 | so any outstanding blueprints/specs, especially the big ones, we should try to come to an agreement by then | 15:04 |
| sjmc7 | anyone have anything else they wanted to bring up? | 15:04 |
| TravT | as sjmc7, we def need some review on the specs | 15:05 |
| sjmc7 | i’ll list some of the BPs later | 15:05 |
| sjmc7 | oh, i also noticed yesterday the elasticsearch devstack install was broken mid-December, but there was already a patch under review yesterday to fix it | 15:05 |
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| sjmc7 | ok, moving on.. | 15:06 |
| sjmc7 | #topic cinder and swift plugins | 15:06 |
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| sjmc7 | not sure if lakshmi or duncan are here | 15:06 |
| sjmc7 | duncant? lakshmiS? | 15:07 |
| TravT | duncant kept saying he had a patch ready to go. | 15:07 |
| TravT | i think somebody needs to go buy him a beer to get him to upload it | 15:07 |
| sjmc7 | yeah. i’ll try and track him down later. ha, i need to negotiate that contract | 15:08 |
| sjmc7 | on the subject of plugins, i took a look at neutron’s notifications | 15:08 |
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| sjmc7 | i added some notes to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/+spec/neutron-plugins - i’m not sure how best to map neutron’s data. if anyone has any thoughts, please air them | 15:09 |
| sjmc7 | it looks like the notifications are enough to get all the data, which is definitely a positive | 15:10 |
| TravT | i'll ping robcresswell on that as well | 15:10 |
| TravT | see if he has any thoughts there | 15:10 |
| sjmc7 | ah yeah, that’s a good idea. i’ll track him down too | 15:10 |
| TravT | since at summit he said he had interest | 15:10 |
| sjmc7 | this is gonna get expensive if i have to keep buying beers | 15:10 |
| TravT | why do you think i wanted you to run the show today? | 15:11 |
| TravT | ;-) | 15:11 |
| sjmc7 | cunning! | 15:11 |
| sjmc7 | the other plugin we spoke about at the summit was for Heat i think, which seems more straightforward | 15:11 |
| sjmc7 | but i’ll take a look at those notifications as well today | 15:11 |
| sjmc7 | ok, moving on… | 15:12 |
| sjmc7 | #topic python-searchlightclient | 15:12 |
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| sjmc7 | li has done some really good work on this | 15:13 |
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| sjmc7 | so thankyou yingjun! | 15:13 |
| TravT | yingjun: \o/ | 15:13 |
| TravT | we definitely need to work through the commands a bit. | 15:13 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, i should’ve looked at your etherpad earlier | 15:14 |
| yingjun | no problem, the patches need more feedback;) | 15:14 |
| sjmc7 | unlike most services which have more ‘RESTy’ looking openstackclient commands | 15:14 |
| sjmc7 | we’re a little bit different | 15:14 |
| TravT | we probably could get some feedback from the OSC team and perhaps UX team on them before mitaka 3. | 15:14 |
| sjmc7 | since we don’t really have a proper noun to operate on, and we’re not doing CRUD type stuff | 15:14 |
| sjmc7 | yeah.. i’m sort of inclined to go with something now, and improve on it if we can get feedback from osc | 15:15 |
| sjmc7 | it’d be a shame for the patches to sit there for weeks | 15:15 |
| sjmc7 | if anyone wants to take a look at them, there are three patches - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/python-searchlightclient | 15:16 |
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| sjmc7 | yingjun - i did run them all yesterday and they all work as expected, which is definitely good :) | 15:16 |
| sjmc7 | so i think if we can come to an agreement about naming then they’re in good shape | 15:16 |
| yingjun | thanks | 15:17 |
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| TravT | yingjun | 15:17 |
| TravT | we could potentially do some "eager" merging on them to make it easier to keep developing through | 15:18 |
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| TravT | and if needed change the commands a bit | 15:18 |
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| TravT | since this is still middle of initial release | 15:18 |
| sjmc7 | ok. next up, unless anyone else has anything on this topic | 15:19 |
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| sjmc7 | #topic blueprint and spec review | 15:19 |
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| yingjun | TravT, seems good to me, I'll keep track on that | 15:20 |
| sjmc7 | on the subject of reviews, https://review.openstack.org/260504 is a real softball one to fix an ordering issue with the tox config | 15:20 |
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| sjmc7 | there are three fairly big architectural specs floating aroudn at the moment | 15:21 |
| sjmc7 | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/+spec/remove-index-api | 15:21 |
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| sjmc7 | we have an /index API which seems kind of vestigial; it’s not documented anywhere, and of quite limited use | 15:22 |
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| sjmc7 | i put up a review for this one while i was on a long plane flight - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259551/ | 15:22 |
| sjmc7 | i can’t see any benefit keeping it around in its current state | 15:22 |
| TravT | yeah, i agree with ditching it | 15:22 |
| TravT | it may have some value, but i don't think it has been fully thought through | 15:23 |
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| sjmc7 | yeah, i think we can revive it to become “index a resource with this id" | 15:23 |
| TravT | i just haven't had time to test through it since you put it up for potentially unintended consequences. | 15:23 |
| sjmc7 | rather than “index this raw document” | 15:24 |
| sjmc7 | all my consequences are intended! | 15:24 |
| sjmc7 | ok, a little more tricky - Zero down-time indexing, with a spec review at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245222/ | 15:24 |
| sjmc7 | this was one of the big things we decided on at the summit, so we need to get cracking with it | 15:25 |
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| TravT | yes, please give comments | 15:26 |
| TravT | i'll put up another revision of it next week. | 15:26 |
| TravT | i thought maybe rick was going to add something to it as well? | 15:26 |
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| sjmc7 | yeah, i think if there are no further comments by mitaka-2 we’ll call it ready | 15:26 |
| sjmc7 | i’ll track him down too | 15:26 |
| sjmc7 | though no beers for him | 15:26 |
| TravT | that seems wise | 15:26 |
| sjmc7 | ok, next up, reorganizing the publishing pipeline - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246220/ | 15:27 |
| TravT | I'm good with all the concepts in there | 15:28 |
| sjmc7 | this was primarily to allow SL to resend notification data but after formatting it, and the specific use case being publishing notifications to tenant message queues | 15:28 |
| TravT | i am fully aware that the coding will lead us to realize some things | 15:28 |
| sjmc7 | though more generally it would allow publishers to be plugged in (sort of middleware-like) in addition to the elasticsearch indexing operation we have now | 15:29 |
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| sjmc7 | yeah, i think it’s potentially pretty gnarly | 15:29 |
| TravT | especially as we get the zero downtime and role based stuff in. | 15:29 |
| TravT | i think we should try to get zero downtime in and role based in | 15:29 |
| TravT | and then build the code for this one on top of that | 15:30 |
| sjmc7 | yeah. i’ll take another look at this spec, and we can see if the folks from Intel are able/willing to work on it and give them help | 15:30 |
| TravT | since they are higher priority. | 15:30 |
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| sjmc7 | right, so the last big change (and this spec is already approved) is re-allowing search for admin fields | 15:31 |
| sjmc7 | there’s a patch up at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257516/, but it will need some testing | 15:31 |
| sjmc7 | yingjun - since you’re doing a lot of client work it would be useful for you to run your server with this patch (you’ll need to reindex) | 15:31 |
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| sjmc7 | the patchset looks scarily big but there’s not as much to it as the line count suggests | 15:32 |
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| TravT | thanks for getting that patch up sjmc7 | 15:33 |
| yingjun | ok, I'll do that tomorrow | 15:33 |
| sjmc7 | again, plane ride :) | 15:33 |
| sjmc7 | i should fly more often! | 15:33 |
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| TravT | it is funny how productive plane rides can be. :) | 15:34 |
| sjmc7 | especially when the movies are all 6 years old and on a screen 40 feet away | 15:34 |
| sjmc7 | i forgot my opera glasses | 15:34 |
| TravT | old 747? | 15:34 |
| sjmc7 | smaller than that, but same vintage | 15:34 |
| sjmc7 | #topic bugs | 15:35 |
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| sjmc7 | the good news is we don’t have many bugs filed | 15:35 |
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| sjmc7 | the more serious one is that elasticsearch 2.0 causes us some problems | 15:35 |
| sjmc7 | lei-zh noted another one over the holiday (https://bugs.launchpad.net/searchlight/+bug/1529009) | 15:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1529009 in OpenStack Search (Searchlight) "_id is no longer configurable in mappings of elasticsearch v2.0" [Medium,New] | 15:36 |
| sjmc7 | so we need to decide when we need to support 2.0 | 15:36 |
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| sjmc7 | i’m inclined to try to get things fixed for the mitaka release, or at least identify if we can support 1.0 and 2.0 together | 15:36 |
| TravT | it seemed gordon on ceilometer wasn't looking at 2.0 | 15:36 |
| TravT | i thought monasca also was adding some elasticsearch stuff | 15:37 |
| sjmc7 | right. and i asked our internal team and they aren’t either | 15:37 |
| TravT | the funny thing about this | 15:37 |
| sjmc7 | they’re looking at it. we’re sticking with 1.7 i think for the forseeable | 15:37 |
| TravT | is that there is usually a lag in deploying releasees of openstack | 15:38 |
| sjmc7 | i don’t *think* there are that many changes; i’d at least like to identify what they are | 15:38 |
| TravT | i know some deployers stay on top | 15:38 |
| TravT | but i know a couple companies that lag by 6 - 12 months | 15:38 |
| TravT | if that is true, then ES 2.0 will have been out for a year by the time they deploy searchlight | 15:38 |
| TravT | so, not supporting 2.0 would be a bigger deal | 15:39 |
| sjmc7 | yeah.. although since debian’s dropping E-S from the package manegement, it’ll be more likely people will download and use the latest version | 15:39 |
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| TravT | which is a long way of saying yes, it would be great to at least identify 2.0 issues. | 15:39 |
| sjmc7 | i’ll make a note to track down any other issues so we at least know what we’re up against | 15:40 |
| TravT | perhaps could be done as backport if needed post mitaka | 15:40 |
| sjmc7 | #action sjmc7 to identify any more elasticsearch 2.0 issues | 15:40 |
| sjmc7 | yeah. ok, that was all on the agenda | 15:40 |
| sjmc7 | #topic Open discussion | 15:40 |
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| sjmc7 | anyone got anything else? otherwise we can talk about TravT’s knees | 15:40 |
| GB21 | I have small question | 15:41 |
| sjmc7 | uh oh | 15:41 |
| sjmc7 | what’s up? :) | 15:41 |
| GB21 | just work and trying to work with searchlight | 15:41 |
| GB21 | how about u? | 15:41 |
| GB21 | :D | 15:41 |
| sjmc7 | :) | 15:42 |
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| sjmc7 | what’s the question? | 15:42 |
| GB21 | so, to index the nova flavors, what I understand is that I have to write a python script convert sql queries to elastic search | 15:43 |
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| sjmc7 | well, we typically don’t have direct access to any of the service databases | 15:43 |
| GB21 | is that so, or do we already have the flavors indexed and I have to query them? | 15:43 |
| sjmc7 | so if you look at how nova servers are indexed, we make an API call to list them | 15:43 |
| sjmc7 | take a look at get_objects in the nova servers index class | 15:44 |
| TravT | http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-compute-v2.1.html#listDetailFlavors | 15:45 |
| TravT | nova client will have a call to that api | 15:45 |
| sjmc7 | i’ll be around all the time in the searchlight IRC room, so feel free to get in touch if you need to | 15:46 |
| GB21 | ohk sure | 15:46 |
| GB21 | :D | 15:46 |
| david-lyle_ | Just making an offer, the horizon midcycle sprint is Feb 23-25 in Hillsboro, OR . We should have plenty of space if searchlight folks would like piggyback on it or just use as a chance to face to face. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/HorizonMitakaSprint | 15:46 |
| sjmc7 | ah, thanks for the reminder, david-lyle_ | 15:46 |
| sjmc7 | TravT - were you intending to go to that? | 15:46 |
| TravT | thanks david-lyle_ | 15:46 |
| TravT | sjmc7: yes, i am planning to go | 15:47 |
| TravT | i should be walking again by then | 15:47 |
| sjmc7 | ok. i’ll have a conflab with management and see if i can justify it | 15:47 |
| sjmc7 | ha, you’ll get more legroom in a brace! | 15:47 |
| TravT | i'm still waiting for official approval as well. | 15:47 |
| sjmc7 | david-lyle_ can wheel you around | 15:48 |
| david-lyle_ | Finally something useful I can do | 15:48 |
| TravT | nice! | 15:48 |
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| sjmc7 | so yeah, if anyone’s around portland end of february, let us know | 15:48 |
| sjmc7 | anything else? otherwise i’ll call it here | 15:49 |
| TravT | nothing for me. thanks for running things today sjmc7 | 15:49 |
| TravT | i'll still mostly be offline the next two days | 15:49 |
| david-lyle_ | Thanks sjmc7 | 15:49 |
| sjmc7 | np, heal up | 15:50 |
| TravT | and trying to make a comeback next week | 15:50 |
| sjmc7 | don’t rush it | 15:50 |
| sjmc7 | ok, thanks folks for attending | 15:50 |
| sjmc7 | #endmeeting | 15:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 7 15:51:58 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-01-07-15.01.html | 15:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-01-07-15.01.txt | 15:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-01-07-15.01.log.html | 15:52 |
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| cathy__ | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 7 17:00:10 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cathy__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining' | 17:00 |
| pcarver | hi | 17:00 |
| cathy__ | pcarver: hi | 17:00 |
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| igordcard_ | hi | 17:01 |
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| johnsom | o/ | 17:02 |
| LouisF | hi | 17:02 |
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| cathy__ | igordcard_: johnsom LouisF Hi | 17:03 |
| cathy__ | let's start | 17:03 |
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| cathy__ | I have 3 topics in mind 1. OVS driver patch, OVS agent patch, updated FC API patch, 2. the Networking-sfc bug page, 3. 1.Make “source Neutron port” a mandatory field in the Flow classifier API. | 17:03 |
| cathy__ | s3wong: hi | 17:03 |
| cathy__ | any other topic you would like to discuss | 17:03 |
| s3wong | hello | 17:03 |
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| cathy__ | #topic OVS driver patch, OVS agent patch, updated FC API patch | 17:04 |
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| cathy__ | These are the patches that need to be merged so that we can get ready for code release. Can we get the review completed by mid next week? | 17:05 |
| georgewang | hi | 17:06 |
| cathy__ | The OVS driver patch and OVS agent patch have been open for review for a long time, probably over 3 months | 17:06 |
| LouisF | cathy__: those patches have been out for review for some time | 17:07 |
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| pcarver | I've started looking through them. I'll get through the rest of it soon. | 17:07 |
| cathy__ | LouisF: yes, for quite a long time. | 17:07 |
| cathy__ | pcarver: thanks! | 17:07 |
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| cathy__ | s3wong: I remember you have posted some comments before and those comments should have been addressed. Could you go through the latest patches again? | 17:08 |
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| cathy__ | georgewang: hi | 17:08 |
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| georgewang | we will go through all comments and try to resolve them ASAP | 17:10 |
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| cathy__ | It seems s3wong got disconnected. | 17:10 |
| cathy__ | georgewang: thanks! | 17:11 |
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| georgewang | BTW, if the issue is small like code style and formatting, should we left them fixed after these patches? | 17:11 |
| s3wong | cathy__: I am here :-) | 17:11 |
| cathy__ | s3wong: I remember you have posted some comments before and those comments should have been addressed. Could you go through the latest patches again? | 17:11 |
| georgewang | to make things move faster | 17:11 |
| s3wong | cathy__: OK | 17:11 |
| cathy__ | s3wong: let's shoot for getting these patches review completed by mid next week. OK with you? | 17:12 |
| s3wong | cathy__: sure | 17:12 |
| cathy__ | s3wong: Thanks! | 17:12 |
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| cathy__ | georgewang: yes if the issue is minor like style and formatting, we can fix them later after the main patches are merged. | 17:13 |
| cathy__ | georgewang: to make things move faster as you said:-) | 17:13 |
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| cathy__ | #topic the Networking-sfc bug page | 17:14 |
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| cathy__ | here is the bug page link https://launchpad.net/networking-sfc | 17:14 |
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| cathy__ | Sukhdev: hi, welcome to join the service_chaining meeting ! | 17:14 |
| * Sukhdev just lurking around | 17:15 | |
| cathy__ | igordcard_: I see that you opened some bugs. I think those should be fixed. Could you check them again and update the bug status? | 17:15 |
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| igordcard_ | cathy__: haven't had trouble again, so I'll close them | 17:17 |
| cathy__ | igordcard_: great. Thanks! | 17:17 |
| LouisF | cathy__: those 2 buds are related to packaging for rpm and debian | 17:17 |
| LouisF | bugs | 17:17 |
| cathy__ | The other 2 bugs are opened by Ramanjaneya Reddy Palleti. He does not seem to call in the meeting today. | 17:17 |
| pcarver | I wonder how much work is needed for packaging and how much happens automatically by leveraging existing infrastructure | 17:18 |
| cathy__ | LouisF: yes. I think there are patches for these two bugs, right? | 17:18 |
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| pcarver | Theoretically, when we're ready for a release it should leverage existing automation to publish packages to PyPI | 17:19 |
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| cathy__ | pcarver: yes, I think so too | 17:19 |
| cathy__ | pcarver: let me talk with Ramanjaneya Reddy Palleti offline on this. | 17:20 |
| cathy__ | #topic service chaining feature release process | 17:20 |
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| LouisF | cathy__: yes i believe there are | 17:21 |
| cathy__ | We have completed all the UT and also over 60 end-to-end SFC test cases including the test cases for cross-subnet SFC. We have also fixed most bugs found. We will fix the few left by end of this week. | 17:22 |
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| cathy__ | After that and after the remaining 3 patches are merged, I will start working with Neutron team on releasing this feature in the M cycle time frame. Sounds Ok to everyone? | 17:23 |
| pcarver | cathy__: sounds good | 17:23 |
| johnsom | Sounds great | 17:24 |
| cathy__ | of course, during this process, we will continue testing and fixing bugs. | 17:24 |
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| prithiv | it would be better to add the instructions and steps to deploy the chain | 17:25 |
| igordcard_ | cathy__ pcarver LouisF can you provide sample working CLI calls to deploy a basic chain? | 17:25 |
| prithiv | could be helpful for someone looking at it for the first time | 17:25 |
| cathy__ | #agreed We have completed all the UT and also over 60 end-to-end SFC test cases including the test cases for cross-subnet SFC.After that and after the remaining 3 patches are merged, Cathy will start working with Neutron team on releasing this feature in the M cycle time frame | 17:25 |
| LouisF | igordcard_: yes will do that | 17:25 |
| cathy__ | igordcard_: prithiv yes, will do | 17:25 |
| pcarver | igordcard_: That's already in the devref, although maybe needs a little tweaking | 17:26 |
| prithiv | thanks cathy. | 17:26 |
| igordcard_ | thank you | 17:26 |
| LouisF | to release to mitaka need to add release request patch to release repo | 17:26 |
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| pcarver | it may not be linked obviously enough. I'll take a look at the docs and see if it needs to be linked to more obviously | 17:27 |
| LouisF | https://github.com/openstack/releases/ | 17:27 |
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| cathy__ | LouisF: I am thinking about following the neutron sub project release guide page. I will take a look at this link too. thanks | 17:28 |
| cathy__ | #topic Make “source Neutron port” a mandatory field in the Flow classifier API. | 17:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Make “source Neutron port” a mandatory field in the Flow classifier API. (Meeting topic: service_chaining)" | 17:29 | |
| LouisF | see https://github.com/openstack/releases/blob/master/doc/source/instructions.rst | 17:29 |
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| cathy__ | We found an issue in a specific cross-subnet SFC testing scenario (other cross-subnet scenarios work fine, just this specific scenario). | 17:30 |
| prithiv | could you give a brief detail about the scenario | 17:30 |
| cathy__ | LouisF: would you like to describe the scenario and root cause? | 17:31 |
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| cathy__ | let me describe it here. | 17:31 |
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| cathy__ | When a SFC spans across multiple subnets, a vRouter comes into the picture. For example, suppose the chain is as follows: source VM in subnet 1 àSF1 in subnet 1àdestination VM in subnet 2. If the vRouter, which connects subnet1 with subnet 2, runs on the same compute node as the source VM, then the OVS on the source VM compute node needs to distinguish the traffic that comes from the source VM from the traffic that come | 17:32 |
| LouisF | the issue is related to the case where the final destination is in a different subnet from the last SF | 17:33 |
| cathy__ | different. If the traffic comes from the source VM, the next hop is SF1, and if the traffic comes from the vRouter, the next hop is destination VM. One way to distinguish this is through the source port of the traffic since their source port will be different. | 17:33 |
| pcarver | igordcard_: this is what I was thinking of http://docs.openstack.org/developer/networking-sfc/system_design%20and_workflow.html#port-chain-creation-workflow let me know if that's what you're looking for regarding CLI for setting up a chain. | 17:33 |
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| cathy__ | let me take a look at the link | 17:35 |
| igordcard_ | pcarver: yes, would that work today? | 17:36 |
| pcarver | igordcard_: I think so, but I've been having unrelated lab issues that I've needed to take care of. | 17:36 |
| igordcard_ | and by the way, let me ask a question: ingress and egress ports are named from the perspective of one SF right? I.e. ingress port is the port through which traffic gets into the SF, and egress is the one through each it gets out of the SF, correct? | 17:37 |
| igordcard_ | through which* | 17:37 |
| cathy__ | igordcard_: that should work. This issue is very specific to cross-subnet SFC in which the vRouter and the SRC VM are located on the same compute node and also the vRouter's next hop is destination VM. | 17:37 |
| LouisF | igordcard_: correct | 17:38 |
| igordcard_ | thanks | 17:39 |
| LouisF | the issue will not occur on production networks where the router is located on a network node separate from the computer nodes | 17:39 |
| cathy__ | if the vRouter and the source VM are not located on the same node, then it works fine. | 17:39 |
| cathy__ | LouisF: yes | 17:39 |
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| cathy__ | So to fix this problem, we can make the source neutron port a mandatory field in the API. Since once the OVS knows the source port of the source VM, then it can distinguish the traffic coming out of the source VM from the traffic coming out of the vRouter and can resolve this issue | 17:41 |
| Swami | LouisF: that may not be always true, since in the case of dvr the routers will be running in compute node. | 17:41 |
| LouisF | swami yes, is dvd is enabled that will be an issue | 17:42 |
| LouisF | if | 17:42 |
| Swami | LouisF: then we need to resolve this issue with dvr as well | 17:43 |
| cathy__ | Swami: Once we make the source neutron port a mandatory field in the API, this issue will be resolved | 17:43 |
| LouisF | cathy__: right | 17:43 |
| igordcard_ | So with this change it won't be possible to match on traffic coming from any place? | 17:43 |
| Swami | cathy__: what it takes to make the neutron port a mandatory filed. | 17:43 |
| cathy__ | Swami: since the OVS can distinguish the traffic coming from the source and the traffic coming from the vRouter due to they have different source port | 17:44 |
| Swami | s/filed/field | 17:44 |
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| cathy__ | Swami: just add a check in the API, simple | 17:44 |
| Swami | cathy__: ok, just wanted to make sure that it is interoperable with dvr and nothing is let loose. | 17:44 |
| cathy__ | Swami: actually there have been suggestions before to make the source neutron port a mandatory field to enhance scalability. | 17:44 |
| cathy__ | Swami: yes, it is | 17:45 |
| Swami | cathy__: thanks | 17:45 |
| cathy__ | so one stone killing two birds:-) | 17:45 |
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| LouisF | igordcard_: when you mean any place is that from any vm in the tenant network? | 17:46 |
| cathy__ | If no disagreement, then we will update the FC API updated patch to add this check and also update the OVS Agent patch accordingly to use this source port to distinguish the traffic | 17:46 |
| igordcard_ | LouisF: for example, yes | 17:47 |
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| LouisF | in that case the VMs are known and their ports can be added using a FC update to a port chain | 17:48 |
| cathy__ | if you have any comment or have a better suggestion of fixing this issue, please post your comments in the patches after the meeting. | 17:48 |
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| igordcard_ | okay | 17:50 |
| LouisF | cathy__: i think this a workable solution for this release, if is becomes an issue it can revisited later as we get more experience with the different use cases | 17:52 |
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| cathy__ | BTW, our FC API allows multiple IP addresses and multiple ports in the flow classification criteria, but our codes currently only select one IP from the set, which is a bug. The patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263003/ is mainly to correct this. | 17:52 |
| cathy__ | LouisF: agree. | 17:53 |
| cathy__ | Any other topic you would like to discuss? | 17:53 |
| LouisF | please review the OVS driver and agent patches | 17:54 |
| cathy__ | yes, let's try to get the review completed by mid next week. | 17:54 |
| cathy__ | here are the links to the 3 patches | 17:55 |
| cathy__ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227285/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233758/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263003/ | 17:55 |
| cathy__ | OK, if no more topic, let's end the meeting here. | 17:55 |
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| cathy__ | Thanks everyone! let's continue our discussion next Thursday. | 17:56 |
| LouisF | igordcard_: prithiv if there is anything unclear or missing from http://docs.openstack.org/developer/networking-sfc/system_design%20and_workflow.html#port-chain-creation-workflow please let us know | 17:56 |
| cathy__ | by now | 17:56 |
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| georgewang | bye | 17:56 |
| pcarver | bye | 17:56 |
| prithiv | thanks Louis | 17:56 |
| prithiv | I will let you know | 17:57 |
| cathy__ | #endmeeting | 17:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:57 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 7 17:57:10 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-01-07-17.00.html | 17:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-01-07-17.00.txt | 17:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-01-07-17.00.log.html | 17:57 |
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