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| flaper87 | #startmeeting Glance | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 1 14:01:24 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is flaper87. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, ivasilevskaya, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, pkoniszewski, krykowski, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishekk, bunting, dshakhray, wxy | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 14:01 |
| kragniz | o/ | 14:01 |
| nikhil | o/ | 14:01 |
| kairat | o/ | 14:01 |
| dshakhray | o/ | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | yoooooooooooooooooooooooooo, everyone! | 14:01 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | Awesome, we have quorum | 14:02 |
| flaper87 | #topic Agenda | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Agenda (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:02 | |
| flaper87 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:02 |
| mfedosin | o/ | 14:02 |
| flaper87 | that's our agenda for today. There are quite some topics to discuss. If yo uhave something urgent please, let me know and we can re-arrange at runtime | 14:02 |
| lakshmiS | o/ | 14:02 |
| flaper87 | #topic Updates | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Updates (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:03 | |
| flaper87 | ativelkov: nikhil artifacts ? | 14:03 |
| nikhil | I didn't see ativelkov ping | 14:03 |
| mfedosin | Alex will miss this meeting | 14:03 |
| nikhil | ok | 14:03 |
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| flaper87 | mfedosin: updates fro myou? | 14:03 |
| mfedosin | I think no artifact updates on this week | 14:03 |
| nikhil | We had a full meeting this Monday. | 14:03 |
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| flaper87 | something else? Otherwise we'll move on with drivers updates | 14:04 |
| nikhil | :) | 14:04 |
| nikhil | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_artifacts_sub_team/2015/glance_artifacts_sub_team.2015-09-28-14.01.html | 14:04 |
| nikhil | Quite a few things there. | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | okidoki, I'll read through | 14:05 |
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| nikhil | Mostly updates on what to come reviews, API discussion and community App catalog | 14:05 |
| mfedosin | okay, I was on sick leave on Monday. so wan't able to attend the meeting | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | Questions? concerns ? something the rest of the community can help with? | 14:05 |
| nikhil | THere's some winding up for Liberty that's merely formality, I will try to get it through this week. | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: ++ | 14:06 |
| * nikhil done | 14:06 | |
| dhellmann | o/ | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | dhellmann: welcome | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | Updates from drivers: I don't think there's much other than we disucssed lakshmiS patch | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | We've agreed to not backport that patch into Liberty | 14:06 |
| nikhil | yes | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | lakshmiS: mind elaborating on the consecuences from a searchlight perspective? | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | so that we have those logged here | 14:07 |
| lakshmiS | sure | 14:07 |
| lakshmiS | without image member notifications searchlight RBAC will not be correct | 14:07 |
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| lakshmiS | searchlight users would have to reindex to get the member updates | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | Thanks and sorry about that | 14:08 |
| lakshmiS | so the patch on glance generates member notifications | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | We can work on getting it merge soon for Mitaka | 14:08 |
| * flaper87 reviewed it yday | 14:08 | |
| nikhil | (that were missing until now) | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | or was that today? | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | mmh | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | lakshmiS: thanks for the updates | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: ++ | 14:09 |
| lakshmiS | for now we are putting a release note on searchlight by linking it to the glance patch for users to manually apply it on top of glance liberty release | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | it'll remain a users choice | 14:09 |
| * nikhil nods | 14:09 | |
| flaper87 | to backport it or wait until mitaka | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | coolio | 14:09 |
| nikhil | One more affect point -- this also affects all the clouds that expose notifications. | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | yup | 14:10 |
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| jokke_ | o/ sry being bit late | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | one more good reason for not rushing it | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | ok | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | moving on | 14:10 |
| nikhil | (and or use them for other purposes -- I think no one has complained until now so most likely not a biggest of issues) | 14:10 |
| * nikhil shuts up | 14:10 | |
| flaper87 | #topic More cores (nikhil) | 14:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "More cores (nikhil) (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:10 | |
| flaper87 | nikhil: floor is yours | 14:11 |
| nikhil | So, I started the part one rotation earlier in Sept | 14:11 |
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| nikhil | thanks flaper87 | 14:11 |
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| nikhil | I will try to be quick | 14:11 |
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| nikhil | And I had refrained from making more changes as we have a few important discussions going on. | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | makes sense | 14:12 |
| nikhil | Since this is a transition period, I wanted to raise this as a general question on what are our plans. Of course, I do not wish to propose rushing either way. | 14:12 |
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| flaper87 | yeah, my personal feeling is that we should wait a bit more before expanding the core team | 14:12 |
| nikhil | to keep these logged -- My observation in Liberty has been that Abhishek and Sabari have done good work overall and are good candidates. So, I would like to propose for them to be cores if/when we are planning to add more to the team. | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | That feeling is related to the upcoming discussions. That said, I do agree that both, Abhishek and Sabari have been great | 14:13 |
| flaper87 | If other folks have a different view, please, do share | 14:13 |
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| nikhil | Sort of felt like giving them a passive shout out for helping with critical reviews at certain phases of Liberty and make them valuable assets to the team. | 14:13 |
| * nikhil done | 14:13 | |
| abhishekk | thanks nikhil and flapper87 | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | Otherwise, I think we can talk about this again after the summit | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | abhishekk: no, thank you for all your reviews | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | my observation is that we've contracted the core team, so adding these 2 wouldn't really be expanding | 14:14 |
| abhishekk | I will be keep doing the same :) | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | sabari and abhishekk do both contribute detailed, high-quality reviews | 14:14 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: +1 | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: it's expanding its current size. :P Jokes apart, I'm not worried about expanding it but I'd like us to clarify our goals for mitaka so we can communicate them properly and help new members to get on board | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: +1 to that | 14:15 |
| mfedosin | I agree with both | 14:15 |
| jokke_ | flaper87: ++ | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | flaper87: +1 to goal clarification | 14:15 |
| nikhil | agree there flaper87 | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | coolio, so. We agree these to humans are amazing and we'd like them in the core team | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | +1 | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | but lets wait until goals are written down | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | #agreed these to humans are amazing and we'd like them in the core team but we'll wait until the goals have been written down | 14:16 |
| * flaper87 is getting bot-fancy | 14:16 | |
| flaper87 | ok | 14:17 |
| flaper87 | moving on | 14:17 |
| flaper87 | #topic Dashboard (flaper87) | 14:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Dashboard (flaper87) (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:17 | |
| flaper87 | not much to say here other than I put some time to create this dashboard for Glance reviews: | 14:17 |
| flaper87 | #link http://tinyurl.com/glance-review-dashboard | 14:17 |
| flaper87 | Hope you guys like it and that you'll help improving it | 14:17 |
| mclaren | nice | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | it comes from this project: | 14:18 |
| jokke_ | that is really handy | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | #link http://github.com/stackforge/gerrit-dash-creator | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | I proposed a patch to merge the dashboard you'll on that link | 14:18 |
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| flaper87 | but that can still be improved | 14:18 |
| mclaren | I know the swift folks have something similar. Their PTL can mark high priority stuff with a star I think. | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | yup, I'm planning to do that by keeping topics updated | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | mclaren: jokke_: what browser are you using, theat tinyurl gives me an error in firefox | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | I'll need some help from reviewers but nothing we can't do together | 14:19 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: firefox | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: I'm on firefox | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: I'll pm you the long one | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | ty | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | ok, moving on | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | #topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229220/ (nikhil_k) | 14:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229220/ (nikhil_k) (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:19 | |
| mfedosin | it doesn't work in firefox | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | (or nikhil ) | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:19 |
| nikhil | :) | 14:19 |
| nikhil | So, I think this is mere formality but removing downgrade can mean a project wide impact | 14:20 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: agreed and I agree a spec would be nice to have | 14:21 |
| nikhil | For example, all the scripts should be updated, all the other specs should be updated and marked an impact update etc | 14:21 |
| flaper87 | From the comments I can tell one is going to be written | 14:21 |
| nikhil | yeah, I hope that the developer writes one (code review) for other updates | 14:21 |
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| flaper87 | coolio, I'll make sure you're added to that spec as soon as it shows up | 14:22 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:22 |
| flaper87 | you just volunteered | 14:22 |
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| nikhil | Also, this means that new scripts wouldn't downgrades, can we improve the upgrade path a bit? | 14:22 |
| * nikhil done | 14:23 | |
| flaper87 | all good points, it'd be probably worth discussing those on the spec as soon as it shows up | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | thanks | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | #topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228559/ (rosmaita) | 14:23 |
| nikhil | As we are still waiting on lite-specs I was keeping an eye on some of the stuff like this. (waiting on lite-specs discussion to begin) :P | 14:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228559/ (rosmaita) (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:23 | |
| flaper87 | nikhil: speaking of that, I've some material for next drivers meeting :P | 14:24 |
| * flaper87 gets back on topic | 14:24 | |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: floor is yours | 14:24 |
| nikhil | flaper87: nice! | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: stop playing with the dashboard | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | sorry | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | my comment is on the agenda | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | which i hav ejust lost | 14:24 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: that's a really good raise | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228559/ (rosmaita) - this is a fix so that 'deactivated' images cannot be downloaded by non-admin users. The discussion on the patch is that the only circumstances under which Glance should allow an image to be downloaded are: (1) image status is 'active' (all users), or (2) image status is 'deactivated' (admin users only). I think this makes sense, but think it's worth pointing this out to the wider Glance | 14:25 |
| nikhil | I think this sort of overlaps with the re-upload to error state a bit. | 14:25 |
| flaper87 | Yeah | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | like i said, i don't have a particular problem in mind, but thought it was worth pointing out | 14:25 |
| flaper87 | I agree w/ rosmaita on the reasoning about when an image should be able to be downloaded | 14:26 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: ++ | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: iiuc that fix is so deactivated images can be downloaded by admin user | 14:26 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: yup | 14:26 |
| nikhil | possibly defining what happens on certain image-loc statuses | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: well, i think that was the bug, but the patch is evolving to be a bit more restrictive | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | ah no sorry | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | mixed with the previous one around that topic | 14:27 |
| mclaren | So the big change is previously only active images could be downloaded by anyone? There's nothing jumping out at me that it's a problem | 14:27 |
| mfedosin | there is a mistake - should be 'not req.contex.is_admin' | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | i think the prob is the admin restriction | 14:27 |
| jokke_ | mfedosin: I totally agree | 14:27 |
| mclaren | rosmaita: problem in what sense? | 14:27 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: good eye! | 14:28 |
| jokke_ | mfedosin: good catch | 14:28 |
| jokke_ | mfedosin: please add to the review comments ;) | 14:28 |
| mfedosin | jokke_, already | 14:28 |
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| nikhil | well, we should backport this if it merges, thoughts? | 14:28 |
| jokke_ | my totally agree was for mclaren not to mfedosin ;) | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | mclaren: i think previously admin could download any state, e.g., pending_delete ? | 14:29 |
| mfedosin | lol :) | 14:29 |
| mclaren | rosmaita: ah, thanks | 14:29 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: then it looks like a breaking change | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | why is the bug targeted to glanceclient ? | 14:29 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: and I think that's fine as well ... admin should be able to | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | prob a mistake | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: well, sabari pointed out that since there's an external scrubber, a pending_delete image could be scrubbed while you were trying to download | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | IIUC, rosmaita said that the patch is evolving into something more restrictive, which means we can't backport it | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | giving 1 more minute to this discussion. We can follow up on the review as well | 14:31 |
| nikhil | I think it's a race condition issues that we should solve by locking mechanisms and not adding restrictions to the API | 14:31 |
| nikhil | issue* | 14:31 |
| mclaren | hmm an image could transition to pending_delete and get scrubbed if it started as active (during download) | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | that's all from me, please put comments on the patch | 14:31 |
| nikhil | or even delete | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | mclaren: good point | 14:32 |
| nikhil | or it could be d/l from cache while deleted from backend too | 14:32 |
| flaper87 | sorry for changing topics, I'd like us to go through the agenda and this looks like something we can follow-up on the review | 14:32 |
| flaper87 | thanks rosmaita | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | yeah and that's end user facing, not just admin who has control over that scrubber as well if needed | 14:32 |
| nikhil | so, I think this stuff is impl detail and not API detail | 14:32 |
| mclaren | I guess download of pending delete is a gray area. I'm not overly concerned about it tbh. | 14:32 |
| flaper87 | #topic Mitaka summit sessions (flaper87) | 14:32 |
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| flaper87 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-glance-summit-topics | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | There's no much there, yet! | 14:33 |
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| flaper87 | I've added a placeholder for the upload process discussion and put rosmaita name there | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | but, we should start adding more topics | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | I think it was nikhil that mentioned a pre-summit brainstorm | 14:33 |
| mclaren | the nova v2 stuff? | 14:33 |
| nikhil | yes | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: do you want to elaborate? | 14:33 |
| nikhil | flaper87: sure | 14:34 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: That's going to be a cross-project session, AFAIK. If not, it'll be a nova session. | 14:34 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: but it's a great topic and we should discuss it | 14:34 |
| flaper87 | ++ | 14:34 |
| nikhil | so, I think a lot of fuzziness exists on what's going around with the upload path, what are the possible priorities and summit topics for Tokyo | 14:34 |
| mclaren | oh, ok. As long as it's not forgotten | 14:34 |
| nikhil | And I find it useful to be prepared with concise thoughts around each topic that we plan to discuss as that usually means, it's going to show up on the priority and be implemented for cycle | 14:35 |
| mfedosin | I hope there will be at least one about artifacts | 14:35 |
| nikhil | sort of makes me feel like having a productive discussion on each topic | 14:35 |
| mclaren | IMHO the priorities are the upload reload and the v2 nova/cinder stuff. | 14:35 |
| flaper87 | so | 14:35 |
| nikhil | define the scope of implementation and the project universe (To think about) | 14:35 |
| dhellmann | flaper87: if the session only affects 2 projects, we try to put it in one of their tracks, so either nova or glance should host the session for the v2 work | 14:36 |
| dhellmann | mclaren: ++ | 14:36 |
| flaper87 | dhellmann: yeah, I thought that would be the case | 14:36 |
| flaper87 | dhellmann: so, nova it is | 14:36 |
| flaper87 | I've talked w/ johnthetubaguy already about this | 14:36 |
| dhellmann | flaper87: great | 14:36 |
| flaper87 | right, johnthetubaguy ? | 14:36 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:36 |
| nikhil | Sorry if I fail to understand if nothing else is likely to go? | 14:37 |
| flaper87 | so, I think it'd be super useful to have a clear list of what the summit will look like before the summit | 14:37 |
| flaper87 | I'd also like to encourage folks to write specs for their sessions as that helps having more useful conversations | 14:37 |
| flaper87 | I think we can decide based on the topics that are proposed whether a pre-summit brainstorm would be useful or not | 14:37 |
| mclaren | flaper87: does the v2 stuff also affect cinder? if it affects cinder and nova should it be a glance session. (Not super important either way) | 14:38 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: yes | 14:38 |
| jokke_ | flaper87: it would be super useful to know what else we can fit on our bowl after those two ... so how much the Nova migration will be this team's problem and how much work wil be needed for that upload stuff for DefCore | 14:38 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: it affects ciner but there's lot to do in nova and it could use more nova folks in the room | 14:38 |
| flaper87 | so, I'd probably vote for doing a nova session | 14:39 |
| mclaren | ok, whatever works | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | flaper87: ++ I think the topic need Nova attention | 14:39 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: yup, I think we'll be able to tell more once we have some draft for the specs written down. As in, there's lot to do on both sides. The Nova work is being split between both teams, which is super great. | 14:39 |
| flaper87 | The upload work is us in terms of implementation but it requires collaboration with the overall community as well | 14:40 |
| flaper87 | which brings me to the next topic, which will hopefully answer nikhil's question | 14:40 |
| flaper87 | (unless there's something else people want to add here) | 14:40 |
| nikhil | sure | 14:40 |
| nikhil | While upload is super important, I think we can still work on download, members, metadef improvements | 14:40 |
| nikhil | not sure how much is in the bucket for those, but that can come in the priority list too. | 14:41 |
| mclaren | sure, but if everything's a priority nothing is ... | 14:41 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: ++ | 14:41 |
| flaper87 | ok, next topic | 14:41 |
| flaper87 | #topic Glance Priorities list (i.e: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/priorities/liberty-priorities.html ) | 14:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Glance Priorities list (i.e: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/priorities/liberty-priorities.html ) (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:41 | |
| flaper87 | BAM! | 14:41 |
| flaper87 | sooooooooo | 14:41 |
| nikhil | mclaren: how would you define a priority heirarchy? | 14:41 |
| TravT | v2 affects horizon FYI. | 14:42 |
| flaper87 | one thing I think we as a team have failed to communicate internally and upstream is our priorities | 14:42 |
| mclaren | nikhil: not sure | 14:42 |
| flaper87 | We've had etherpads and other things but no official process | 14:42 |
| flaper87 | I dug a bit into how nova handles this and they use what it's called "nova-priorities-list" | 14:42 |
| flaper87 | I'd like the glance team to do the same | 14:42 |
| flaper87 | TL;DR: | 14:42 |
| mclaren | swift have this (review centric) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | The team agrees on what the priorities for the cycle are and puts extra efforts on that | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | I'm not going to get into the hows/whys of the workflow in this meeting | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | BUT | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | I'd love to get feedback from everyone | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | This list of priorities does not mean that things that aren't there won't land | 14:43 |
| mclaren | Can we define things we must get done in the cycle? | 14:44 |
| jokke_ | mclaren: ++ | 14:44 |
| kairat | heat has an etherpad with priority review and they discuss progress on it every week during the meeting | 14:44 |
| abhishekk | ++ | 14:44 |
| flaper87 | It means that: 1) Things in that list are top-prio for reviews, patches, etch! | 14:44 |
| kairat | so would it be enough for glance? | 14:44 |
| flaper87 | It also helps providing feedback for the rest of the community | 14:44 |
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| flaper87 | and to provide a clear view of what glance mitaka will look like | 14:44 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: I think we should do that when we start defining that list | 14:45 |
| flaper87 | Nova uses a full session for that | 14:45 |
| flaper87 | and I'd like to have a pre-summit meeting about that | 14:45 |
| mclaren | ok. | 14:45 |
| flaper87 | so that we go to the summit wit ha clear view and we can also prioritize topics based on that | 14:45 |
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| flaper87 | If that makes sense, I'll schedule some time during the next meeting for this | 14:46 |
| flaper87 | So that people can start preparing topics | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | +1 | 14:46 |
| mclaren | I think the community will be watching closely on the upload/v2 stuff over the cycle. | 14:46 |
| flaper87 | Note that this conversation will take some time, which means next meeting will be mostly abou this | 14:46 |
| nikhil | flaper87: may be write a review against glance-specs repo? | 14:46 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: yup, that's how nova does it and I'd like us to follow that pattern | 14:47 |
| flaper87 | I'll prepare the first draft | 14:47 |
| * nikhil ack | 14:47 | |
| mclaren | the priorities are recorded as a spec? | 14:47 |
| flaper87 | we can start commenting on it and complete it next week | 14:47 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: yes | 14:47 |
| mclaren | sounds good I think | 14:47 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: Glance Priorities list (i.e: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/priorities/liberty-priorities.html ) | 14:47 |
| mclaren | thanks | 14:47 |
| abhishekk | nova does not accept any specs after milestone 1 and it will be submitted as backlog | 14:47 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: it's there, public and we can link to it to inform people and te overall community | 14:48 |
| mclaren | and be held accountable to :-) | 14:48 |
| flaper87 | abhishekk: that brings me to the next topic :P | 14:48 |
| nikhil | #link https://github.com/openstack/nova-specs/tree/master/priorities | 14:48 |
| abhishekk | :) | 14:48 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: ++ | 14:48 |
| flaper87 | #action flaper87 to write the draft for mitaka glance priorities | 14:48 |
| flaper87 | Actually, I'll let the next topic for next week, I'd like to leave time for open discussions since there are some reviews requests | 14:49 |
| flaper87 | #topic Open Discussion | 14:49 |
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| flaper87 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221307/ (lakshmiS, TravT) | 14:49 |
| mfedosin | flaper87, what is the weather in Japan? :) | 14:50 |
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| mclaren | did we cover that one? | 14:50 |
| flaper87 | This is the patch we agreed not to backport to RC2 | 14:50 |
| TravT | flaper87: thanks for one round of reviews on that. I think lakshmiS has addressed your set of comments | 14:50 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: yup, but it'd be great to review it so it lands in early mitaka and Searchlight can link to it | 14:50 |
| abhishekk | mclaren: yes | 14:50 |
| flaper87 | TravT: awesome! | 14:50 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: Rainy | 14:50 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:50 |
| mclaren | ack | 14:50 |
| TravT | we have a patch sitting in our queue for searchlight liberty actually that can listen to these notifications. | 14:51 |
| flaper87 | It'd be great to get one extra pair of eyes on that one | 14:51 |
| TravT | and looking for reviews as soon as possible | 14:51 |
| flaper87 | it's adding new notifications for members and there's a contract related to that one | 14:51 |
| TravT | of particular interest is the notifications names and content | 14:51 |
| flaper87 | As in, it's a public format that needs to be supported | 14:51 |
| * flaper87 's wording is terrible today | 14:52 | |
| flaper87 | Glance store exceptions: https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance-store/+bug/1501443 | 14:52 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1501443 in glance_store "glance_store exceptions trigger child exceptions (which break Glance's error handling)" [Undecided,Opinion] | 14:52 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: jokke_ is that yours ^ ? | 14:52 |
| mclaren | that's me | 14:52 |
| TravT | since the names and content represent the API, basically | 14:52 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: shoot | 14:52 |
| jokke_ | flaper87: I take no credit on that | 14:52 |
| flaper87 | TravT: ++ | 14:52 |
| mclaren | So it look's to me like a lot of our exception handling doesn't work | 14:52 |
| mclaren | But I'm interested to know of someone else could confirm, I may be seeing things | 14:53 |
| mclaren | of/if | 14:53 |
| dhellmann | flaper87, nikhil : I plan to use glance as a demo of a new release note management tool we're rolling out for the liberty stable releases. I'll ping you when those patches are ready. | 14:53 |
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| flaper87 | dhellmann: awesome, thanks! | 14:53 |
| mfedosin | mclaren, I wrote a fix for that | 14:53 |
| jokke_ | dhellmann: add me to the list ;) | 14:53 |
| dhellmann | jokke_: ack | 14:53 |
| mclaren | mfedosin: I think I have that change | 14:54 |
| nikhil | dhellmann: sounds intriguing! Would love to learn more.. | 14:54 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: I don't think you're seeing things but I'm curious to know how you hit that | 14:54 |
| mfedosin | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202083/ | 14:54 |
| mclaren | testing an upcoming policy fix | 14:54 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: ah-ha. gotcha | 14:54 |
| flaper87 | I think there's something fishy in there | 14:55 |
| mclaren | mfedosin: ah, I can check if my version of the store has that -- thanks | 14:55 |
| flaper87 | it's probably related to the old store code being migrated to the library | 14:55 |
| flaper87 | which basically means it's my fault | 14:55 |
| jokke_ | mfedosin, mclaren: I thought I had seen fix for that! | 14:55 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:55 |
| mclaren | mfedosin: is that in a released version of the store? | 14:55 |
| jokke_ | mclaren: that fix has not merged yet | 14:55 |
| flaper87 | not merged | 14:55 |
| mfedosin | mclaren, no, it's still on review | 14:55 |
| mclaren | well that explains it! | 14:56 |
| flaper87 | I don't recall how big/invasive the fix is but it may even be good backport material | 14:56 |
| jokke_ | flaper87: looks like so | 14:56 |
| mclaren | flaper87: yes I agree if feasible | 14:56 |
| mclaren | there'll be a lot of 500s otherwise | 14:56 |
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| mfedosin | if you want I can update the commit message | 14:57 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: :( | 14:57 |
| mclaren | mfedosin: I'll test that out and review, thanks again | 14:57 |
| jokke_ | flaper87: now when we have bug fir it :P | 14:57 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: ++ | 14:57 |
| mfedosin | mclaren, you're welcome | 14:57 |
| flaper87 | Anything else? Anyone? | 14:58 |
| flaper87 | Who's going to attend the summit? | 14:58 |
| mclaren | o/ | 14:58 |
| mfedosin | o/ | 14:58 |
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| dhellmann | o/ | 14:58 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 14:58 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:58 |
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| flaper87 | nnnnnnnnnnnnnnice! | 14:58 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: ? | 14:58 |
| flaper87 | o/ | 14:59 |
| nikhil | rc2 might be out soon (fyi) | 14:59 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: rosmaita ? | 14:59 |
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| rosmaita | o/ | 14:59 |
| jokke_ | o/ | 14:59 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: good news, thanks! | 14:59 |
| flaper87 | hope it's the last RC | 14:59 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:59 |
| nikhil | it's prolly not | 14:59 |
| jokke_ | nikhil: I think it is out ... I saw the config bug moving from committed to released | 14:59 |
| flaper87 | We should all give Glance-rc2 a crazy test session as soon as it's out | 15:00 |
| nikhil | weird, wonder why I did not get a ping back | 15:00 |
| nikhil | ++ | 15:00 |
| nikhil | lakshmiS: I am removing the liberty tag from https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1441453 | 15:00 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1441453 in Glance "Image members CRUD doesn't generate notifications which impacts searchlight RBAC." [High,In progress] - Assigned to Lakshmi N Sampath (lakshmi-sampath) | 15:00 |
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| jokke_ | 6min before meeting started | 15:00 |
| nikhil | flaper87: that'w what we agreed, correct me if I am wrong | 15:00 |
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| flaper87 | nikhil: we agreed that! | 15:01 |
| nikhil | ty | 15:01 |
| flaper87 | no liberty, full mitaka | 15:01 |
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| flaper87 | and we ran out of time! | 15:01 |
| flaper87 | Thanks everyone for attending | 15:01 |
| flaper87 | #endmeeting | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 1 15:01:31 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2015/glance.2015-10-01-14.01.html | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2015/glance.2015-10-01-14.01.txt | 15:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2015/glance.2015-10-01-14.01.log.html | 15:01 |
| nikhil | (got my travel booked!) | 15:01 |
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| nikhil | didn't notice the last bit.. | 15:01 |
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| TravT | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 1 15:02:32 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is TravT. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search' | 15:02 |
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| david-lyle | o/ | 15:02 |
| TravT | o/ | 15:02 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 15:03 |
| TravT | not sure if others already o/ I had to reboot my computer. | 15:03 |
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| david-lyle | no | 15:03 |
| TravT | lakshmiS o/ | 15:03 |
| sjmc7 | hey | 15:03 |
| lakshmiS | o/ | 15:04 |
| nikhil | o/ | 15:04 |
| TravT | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda | 15:04 |
| TravT | #topic RC1 Release | 15:04 |
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| TravT | last week we agree to make a go / no go vote for RC1 in todays meeting. | 15:04 |
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| TravT | so here's our current status #link https://launchpad.net/searchlight/+milestone/liberty-rc1 | 15:05 |
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| TravT | we're in really good shape really. | 15:05 |
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| lakshmiS | release time then! | 15:06 |
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| TravT | yesterday we had an in room discussion to defer the one BP still in code review, but then itisha found a bug that would be solved by the BP being finished off. | 15:06 |
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| TravT | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1501508 | 15:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1501508 in OpenStack Search (Searchlight) "searchlight-manage does not work unless designate is installed" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Steve McLellan (sjmc7) | 15:06 |
| TravT | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/+spec/plugin-config-options | 15:06 |
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| sjmc7 | the config patch fixes it; there's a simpler fix which is to disable those plugins in setup.cfg | 15:08 |
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| TravT | well, before we jump the gun to a hack, let's check the other items on the board. | 15:09 |
| TravT | related: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1493975 | 15:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1493975 in OpenStack Search (Searchlight) "Need separate config sections for api and listener" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Steve McLellan (sjmc7) | 15:09 |
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| TravT | sjmc7: it doesn't look like you also included the fix for that in the confg change | 15:09 |
| sjmc7 | no | 15:09 |
| TravT | are you thinking we should go ahead and defer than bug then? | 15:10 |
| TravT | than -> that | 15:10 |
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| sjmc7 | i'd like to fix it, but i'm under a load of time pressure on various things | 15:10 |
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| TravT | i suppose right now the workaround is to just specify the config file when launching either one and use a different config file | 15:12 |
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| sjmc7 | yeah, or override it | 15:12 |
| sjmc7 | which is what i've been doing | 15:12 |
| sjmc7 | --log-file | 15:13 |
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| TravT | well, i'm thinking we can defer it. | 15:13 |
| sjmc7 | yeah. i can get a patch up in the next day or two but i don't know how crucial it is | 15:14 |
| sjmc7 | maybe if we need to do an RC 2 anyway | 15:14 |
| TravT | if you happen to get a code review up that's super small and low risk before we do rc1, then reconsider. | 15:14 |
| TravT | and if we need rc2, can consider it | 15:14 |
| TravT | this next one is actually a little more important i think | 15:15 |
| TravT | Facet options should limit to max amount | 15:15 |
| TravT | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1501539 | 15:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1501539 in OpenStack Search (Searchlight) "Facet options should limit to max amount" [Undecided,New] | 15:15 |
| TravT | just chatting with a couple guys in horizon, we should limit the number of possible options we return for facet requests | 15:15 |
| TravT | if it goes over a certain amount, then not return them. | 15:16 |
| TravT | it'll make an unworkable UI at the moment if we get in a situation where perhaps there are like 200 security groups to choose from. | 15:16 |
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| sjmc7 | that's a one liner i think | 15:16 |
| lakshmiS_ | limiting the options might be confusing | 15:17 |
| TravT | well, here's what I'm hoping out of it. If there are more than X options, we just don't return them. Leave it free form. | 15:17 |
| TravT | you know, i could handle it on client side as well. | 15:17 |
| TravT | if ES has an option to limit or something that also helps performance | 15:18 |
| sjmc7 | it does | 15:18 |
| TravT | ok, well, let's keep that for the moment. | 15:19 |
| TravT | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1479927 | 15:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1479927 in OpenStack Search (Searchlight) "Not indexing glance image tags from notifications" [High,Triaged] | 15:19 |
| TravT | this patch is a forward looking patch. | 15:20 |
| TravT | dependent on glance landing a patch. | 15:20 |
| TravT | lakshmiS_: has been addressing the comments from flavio | 15:20 |
| TravT | and i brought it up in the glance meeting this morning | 15:21 |
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| TravT | if we put this patch in on the searchlight side, then all a deployer needs to do is apply the glance patch to their liberty deployment | 15:21 |
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| TravT | i'm inclined to say we go ahead and land it. | 15:22 |
| TravT | of course lakshmiS_ connection dropped right now... | 15:23 |
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| lakshmiS | sorry my netconnection is choppy today | 15:23 |
| TravT | lakshmiS: i was just saying I think that we probably should just go ahead and put the notification patch into searchlight. | 15:23 |
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| lakshmiS | yeah it harmless even if there are no notifications from glance | 15:24 |
| rosmaita | makes sense to land it then | 15:24 |
| sjmc7 | i'll review that | 15:24 |
| TravT | it is slightly speculative, but the worst case scenario is that we have to put a patch into mitaka to correct something. the best case scenario is searchlight is ready to receive notifications. | 15:25 |
| TravT | rosmaita: good to hear your opinion | 15:25 |
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| TravT | ok, we'll keep that on and try to land today | 15:25 |
| rosmaita | it's all i've got | 15:25 |
| TravT | lol | 15:26 |
| TravT | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1479927 | 15:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1479927 in OpenStack Search (Searchlight) "Not indexing glance image tags from notifications" [High,Triaged] | 15:26 |
| rosmaita | i have a question, though, the patch i've seen at glance is for image member notifications, not image tags | 15:26 |
| rosmaita | and there it is | 15:26 |
| TravT | oh, you are right... | 15:26 |
| TravT | that is a slightly diff bug | 15:26 |
| TravT | with this one, we found it early on and I don't think we ever corrected it | 15:27 |
| TravT | but it definitely occurs to me that if you are searching for images... tags would be an important thing to be able to search | 15:27 |
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| TravT | ;-) | 15:27 |
| rosmaita | glance thinks tags are so important it gives you 2 diff api calls to handle them | 15:28 |
| rosmaita | but it looks like the fix for this is all on the searchlight side? | 15:28 |
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| lakshmiS | so if i remember correctly tags are part of notification from glance | 15:28 |
| TravT | yes, they are. | 15:28 |
| rosmaita | but only if non-empty | 15:28 |
| TravT | we just didn't grab them | 15:29 |
| TravT | rosmaita: that's right | 15:29 |
| TravT | which is what led to the initial confusion | 15:29 |
| rosmaita | there was this crazy idea at the beginning of v2 that empty/null values should not be included in responses | 15:30 |
| rosmaita | it has led to much confusion all around | 15:30 |
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| TravT | well, i can look at grabbing that later today and putting up a patch on it | 15:30 |
| TravT | unless somebody beats me to it. | 15:30 |
| TravT | So in summary, sjmc7: i'll assign the facet options to you | 15:31 |
| sjmc7 | :) | 15:31 |
| TravT | and let's get the reviews / testing in on these last few patches. | 15:32 |
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| TravT | Do we think we can get these landed in the next few hours? | 15:32 |
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| lakshmiS | tags looks like a small patch | 15:33 |
| TravT | i think the config options is the most difficult here | 15:33 |
| TravT | but there is a review up for it | 15:34 |
| TravT | we just need to go through it | 15:34 |
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| TravT | lakshmiS: you've been up late several days in a row | 15:35 |
| TravT | don't want you to kill yourself on this... | 15:35 |
| TravT | but if you did have any more review on any of these patches, then we could try to address | 15:36 |
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| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/223318 | 15:37 |
| lakshmiS | no problem. look like last set of reviews | 15:37 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/228998 | 15:37 |
| TravT | then we'll put up review for tags and review for facet options. | 15:37 |
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| TravT | rosmaita: i've got a doc patch that can land any time, but if you want to give it a once over for feedback | 15:38 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/228664 | 15:38 |
| TravT | ok, well, i think as soon as these last few patches land, we'll do RC1! | 15:38 |
| rosmaita | will look right away | 15:38 |
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| TravT | #topic Mitaka Summit Sessions | 15:39 |
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| TravT | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/searchlight-mitaka-summit | 15:40 |
| TravT | i started an etherpad to start gathering ideas. | 15:40 |
| TravT | we got 1 fishbowl slot | 15:40 |
| TravT | 1 workroom slot | 15:40 |
| TravT | 1 conference presentation | 15:40 |
| TravT | #action take a look at the etherpad and put in ideas, notes, questions, comments | 15:41 |
| TravT | and next week we'll go back over the etherpad and settle on them. | 15:41 |
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| TravT | i'll send a message to the mailing list asking for input on that etherpad as well. | 15:41 |
| TravT | any questions on that before open discussion? | 15:42 |
| lakshmiS | i think we discussed previously on inviting atleast one person from some services | 15:43 |
| TravT | yeah, i put up two ideas for the fishbowl | 15:43 |
| TravT | with either one, we would send out an invite i think. | 15:43 |
| TravT | but just need to settle on the exact topic and description before figuring out who to invite. | 15:44 |
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| TravT | maybe they should be combined... i don't know | 15:44 |
| TravT | go ahead and leave comments or whatever on the etherpad. | 15:45 |
| TravT | and we can figure this out for sure next week. | 15:45 |
| TravT | #topic open discussion | 15:45 |
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| TravT | anything else? or should we adjourn to go deal with these last lingering rc1 bugs? | 15:46 |
| lakshmiS | rosmaita: are you coming to summit. heard sigmavirus is not | 15:46 |
| sjmc7 | aww :( | 15:46 |
| david-lyle | O.o | 15:46 |
| rosmaita | lakshmiS: i will be there | 15:47 |
| rosmaita | unfortunately, not sigmavirus24 | 15:47 |
| lakshmiS | cool | 15:47 |
| TravT | huge bummer on sigmavirus24 | 15:47 |
| TravT | woot! that you'll be there | 15:47 |
| rosmaita | i know, he has been working really hard, could use the break | 15:48 |
| TravT | we should try to influence the session schedulers to not have glance / searchlight sessions overlap | 15:48 |
| TravT | i'll mention that to them. | 15:48 |
| rosmaita | +1 | 15:48 |
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| TravT | all right, let's go get these last few items done! | 15:50 |
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| TravT | see you in the room. | 15:50 |
| TravT | #endmeeting | 15:50 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:50 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 1 15:50:22 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2015/openstack_search.2015-10-01-15.02.html | 15:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2015/openstack_search.2015-10-01-15.02.txt | 15:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2015/openstack_search.2015-10-01-15.02.log.html | 15:50 |
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| cloudnull | o/ | 15:59 |
| prometheanfire | \o | 15:59 |
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| serverascode | o/ | 15:59 |
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| evrardjp | hi | 15:59 |
| cloudnull | hi | 16:00 |
| odyssey4me | #startrmeeting OpenStack Ansible Meeting | 16:00 |
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| odyssey4me | #startmeeting OpenStack Ansible Meeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 1 16:00:47 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is odyssey4me. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible_meeting' | 16:00 |
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| odyssey4me | #topic Agenda & rollcall | 16:01 |
| stevelle | o/ | 16:01 |
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| odyssey4me | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-ansible#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 16:01 |
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| evrardjp | oops I forgot to add my name on the last item, sorry | 16:02 |
| cloudnull | presente ! | 16:02 |
| d34dh0r53 | o/ | 16:02 |
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| evrardjp | hello everyone! | 16:03 |
| prometheanfire | ohai | 16:03 |
| scarlisle | hello! | 16:03 |
| jmccrory | hi | 16:03 |
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| serverascode | o/ | 16:03 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Review action items from last week | 16:05 |
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| odyssey4me | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2015/openstack_ansible_meeting.2015-09-17-16.01.html | 16:05 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull - continue working on https://review.openstack.org/178259 for MariaDB 10 | 16:06 |
| * odyssey4me hands the mic to cloudnull | 16:06 | |
| odyssey4me | #link https://review.openstack.org/178259 | 16:06 |
| cloudnull | merged. | 16:07 |
| cloudnull | master / liberty is running it now | 16:07 |
| odyssey4me | I see that this has come up | 16:07 |
| Bjoern_ | I think we need to back port if possible | 16:07 |
| odyssey4me | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1501168 | 16:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1501168 in openstack-ansible "ops-galera-recovery.rst inaccurate" [Undecided,New] | 16:07 |
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| odyssey4me | also | 16:07 |
| odyssey4me | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1501196 | 16:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1501196 in openstack-ansible "infrastructure playbooks restart all galera at same time (10.1.5 to 10.1.14)" [Undecided,New] | 16:07 |
| cloudnull | odyssey4me: the old recovery information is now, once again, acurate | 16:08 |
| evrardjp | backport? Isn't it a too big change? | 16:08 |
| odyssey4me | I do think that getting the docs updated for master regarding how to work with galera now is important. | 16:08 |
| evrardjp | (don't know the full impact) | 16:08 |
| evrardjp | odyssey4me, +1 | 16:08 |
| cloudnull | if we we're to backport mariadb 10 to kilo the restart all galera at the same time issue would be gone too. | 16:08 |
| odyssey4me | I also think that any improvements that can be backported without changing the version is important, to bring the operations guides for Kilo back in line. | 16:09 |
| cloudnull | so we can structurally backport some of the changes but i also agree that its a rather larg-ish change to backport to kilo at this point. | 16:09 |
| odyssey4me | Personally I don't think it'll be wise to backport the full patch (including the version change) to Kilo. | 16:09 |
| evrardjp | impact seems positive on greenfield deploys, so I don't have a problem with that, but I'd like more docs (especially on kilo to kilo updates) | 16:10 |
| evrardjp | (my 2 cents) | 16:10 |
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| odyssey4me | evrardjp agreed, the only alternative would be to simply update the kilo docs | 16:11 |
| evrardjp | db/messaging queues being the core of the danger | 16:11 |
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| evrardjp | ok | 16:11 |
| odyssey4me | evrardjp +1 some docs on rabbitmq clustering would be useful as that seems to happen in ops reasonably often | 16:11 |
| odyssey4me | something similar to the galera docs: | 16:12 |
| odyssey4me | #link: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-ansible/install-guide/index.html#operations | 16:12 |
| cloudnull | +1 | 16:12 |
| scarlisle | +1 | 16:13 |
| evrardjp | +1 | 16:13 |
| odyssey4me | any volunteers to pull that rabbitmq docs together? | 16:13 |
| evrardjp | I definitely don't have the skills for that, sorry | 16:14 |
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| cloudnull | i'd love too but i have too many irons in the fire already to commit to it for now. | 16:14 |
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| odyssey4me | ok, for now I'll register a bug for it to be done - hopefully someone can pick it up some time soon or in the near future | 16:15 |
| cloudnull | ++ | 16:15 |
| evrardjp | that's the best compromise :D | 16:15 |
| odyssey4me | #action odyssey4me to register a bug to add docs for rabbitmq cluster recovery | 16:15 |
| odyssey4me | any volunteers to update the docs for galera cluster recovery? | 16:16 |
| cloudnull | note they only need to be updated for kilo | 16:16 |
| evrardjp | and for mariadb changes (if upgrade happens to kilo)? | 16:16 |
| cloudnull | master/liberty are now correct | 16:16 |
| odyssey4me | and any volunteers to backport the functional changes (not the db version change) from master to kilo? | 16:16 |
| cloudnull | i can pick apart my existing change, if nobody else wants to do the work | 16:17 |
| cloudnull | but it may be a minute before i get to it | 16:17 |
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| stevelle | maybe file something for the future on that one | 16:18 |
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| cloudnull | o/ mhayden | 16:18 |
| odyssey4me | yeah, ok I'll file a bug for an update of the kilo docs or a backport of the functional changes | 16:18 |
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| odyssey4me | #action odyssey4me to file a bug for an update of the galera kilo docs or a backport of the functional changes implemented for MariaDB 10 in master | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | Everyone - start -1 changes that dont had docs | 16:19 |
| evrardjp | thanks odyssey4me and cloudnull | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | we seem to be getting a little better at this | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | we've had quite a few docs updates recently, with thanks to evrardjp and mhayden among others | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | I hope to see more. | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | everyone - start a rotating chair at the beginning of meetings | 16:20 |
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| odyssey4me | This was an idea I presented last week. Any volunteers to chair the next meeting? | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | It's not too much work - just a few minutes to check the agenda and to keep the flow of the meeting. | 16:21 |
| prometheanfire | I'd do it but don't know the proceedure too well | 16:22 |
| prometheanfire | now with more e | 16:22 |
| evrardjp | we can check on previous week log for that ;) | 16:22 |
| odyssey4me | prometheanfire it's easy enough, and we'll be here to support you :) | 16:22 |
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| evrardjp | next week for me won't work, I'll tell you if I can do the week afterwards | 16:22 |
| prometheanfire | sure then | 16:22 |
| odyssey4me | great! | 16:22 |
| odyssey4me | #action prometheanfire to chair the next community meeting | 16:22 |
| evrardjp | thanks prometheanfire ! | 16:23 |
| odyssey4me | Any volunteers to run the Tue bug triage? | 16:23 |
| prometheanfire | ha HA, dodged that bullet | 16:23 |
| odyssey4me | d34dh0r53 ping :p | 16:23 |
| evrardjp | indeed prometheanfire ;) | 16:24 |
| cloudnull | odyssey4me: I can chair that one if needed. <-- cc d34dh0r53 :) | 16:24 |
| odyssey4me | alright, great | 16:24 |
| mhayden | it makes it hard to type when my chair is rotating | 16:24 |
| d34dh0r53 | I'll take that one next week | 16:24 |
| cloudnull | boom ! | 16:24 |
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| odyssey4me | super! it'll be great to have some variety :) | 16:24 |
| evrardjp | mhayden should do it, because of what he said | 16:24 |
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| prometheanfire | like a pro | 16:25 |
| evrardjp | it deserves a penalty! | 16:25 |
| odyssey4me | #action d34dh0r53 to chair the Tue bug triage for next week | 16:25 |
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| d34dh0r53 | :thumbsup: | 16:25 |
| evrardjp | thanks d34dh0r53 then :) | 16:25 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Liberty Release Blueprints (note dependencies) | 16:25 |
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| cloudnull | thanks d34dh0r53 | 16:25 |
| odyssey4me | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/liberty-release | 16:25 |
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| odyssey4me | #link https://launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+milestone/12.0.0 | 16:26 |
| odyssey4me | so I think we're doing pretty well! | 16:26 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull how's it going with https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/enable-venv-support-within-the-roles ? | 16:27 |
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| cloudnull | this is what i've gotten done so far https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/openstack-ansible+branch:master+topic:bp/enable-venv-support-within-the-roles,n,z | 16:27 |
| odyssey4me | #action odyssey4me to ping javeriak regarding progress for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/modularize-neutron-liberty and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/plumgrid-support-liberty | 16:27 |
| cloudnull | if some folks wouldn't mind reviewing a few of those it'd be appreciated. | 16:28 |
| cloudnull | it all seems to work quiet well. | 16:28 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull that is looking pretty good - what's missing there? nova - anything else? | 16:28 |
| cloudnull | and in testing im able to upgrade from kilo > liberty without dealing with epochs | 16:29 |
| cloudnull | odyssey4me: neutron nova swift | 16:29 |
| cloudnull | horizon was a bit of a pain in the ass but i got that worked out this morning | 16:30 |
| prometheanfire | nice | 16:30 |
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| odyssey4me | ah, very cool - I'm guessing that neutron & nova will be a bit fiddly too | 16:31 |
| cloudnull | actually i dont think so | 16:31 |
| cloudnull | horizon and keystone have been the most fiddly so far | 16:31 |
| evrardjp | yeah I think too | 16:31 |
| evrardjp | >< | 16:31 |
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| cloudnull | and its because they run behind apache | 16:31 |
| odyssey4me | ah, that work's important because I see that more and more projects are moving towards that model | 16:32 |
| evrardjp | ofc, and their multiple paths :p | 16:32 |
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| cloudnull | evrardjp: yea it made it a fun time to work out. | 16:32 |
| evrardjp | :) | 16:33 |
| cloudnull | but it runs quite well now. | 16:33 |
| evrardjp | good job, nice | 16:33 |
| odyssey4me | it'll be nice to see that bake a little, and when we move onto focusing on the upgrade work for 12.1.0 that'll make everyone's lives a lot simpler | 16:33 |
| cloudnull | if all goes well ill have nova and neutron out today | 16:33 |
| odyssey4me | that's excellent news | 16:34 |
| prometheanfire | the harder ones I'd think | 16:34 |
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| odyssey4me | I've done a little work on updating to Liberty RC1 for some projects: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/openstack-ansible+branch:master+topic:bp/liberty-release,n,z | 16:34 |
| odyssey4me | the gate checks seem to be going very slowly - I think we're really pushing the limits and might need to do this: https://review.openstack.org/221957 | 16:35 |
| odyssey4me | that may have to be done to help get things moving until this work starts: https://review.openstack.org/221009 | 16:36 |
| stevelle | I have something partially baked for Horizon for RC1 | 16:36 |
| stevelle | just haven't submitted yet | 16:36 |
| cloudnull | stevelle: ++ | 16:36 |
| odyssey4me | ah stevelle great! | 16:36 |
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| odyssey4me | if I could ask that anyone working on any of this stuff please submit a review at least once per day | 16:37 |
| odyssey4me | it'll help notify others that work is being done | 16:37 |
| odyssey4me | for anyone who wants to work on the stuff I started with, please ping me - I'm not trying to hog them and am happy for anyone to co-author the patches | 16:38 |
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| odyssey4me | any volunteers for the final bits that have no assignees in https://review.openstack.org/221189 ? | 16:39 |
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| odyssey4me | miguelgrinberg any chance you can spend some time on heat? | 16:39 |
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| odyssey4me | alright, we'll leave that standing | 16:41 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Reviews - Backport of the config_template into Kilo | 16:41 |
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| cloudnull | IMO i think this should go | 16:41 |
| cloudnull | related changes https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/openstack-ansible+branch:kilo+topic:bp/tunable-openstack-configuration,n,z | 16:42 |
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| cloudnull | this makes it possible for a deployer to override / use anything they need or want | 16:42 |
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| cloudnull | regardless of what we've templated. | 16:42 |
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| odyssey4me | d34dh0r53 I know that RPC is still working through a few bits related to upgrades. How does the team feel about this going through? | 16:43 |
| prometheanfire | meaning we can focus on what we need vs what each osa consumer needs | 16:43 |
| stevelle | This looks like a major quality of life improvement for a deployer/operator using OSA as well. | 16:43 |
| odyssey4me | prometheanfire yes, this cuts the dev cycle for the requests like: can you add this config option please | 16:43 |
| prometheanfire | we talked about it earlier and I think we are fine with it going into kilo | 16:44 |
| scarlisle | I'm onboard. Means fewer bugs support opens to you guys for adding more overrides :) | 16:44 |
| odyssey4me | great stuff | 16:44 |
| cloudnull | ^ that | 16:44 |
| cloudnull | Bjoern_: ^^ thoughts ? | 16:44 |
| stevelle | I also feel that backports will help get this in use sooner, surfacing any bugs or shortcomings sooner. | 16:44 |
| odyssey4me | I think it would be prudent to wait to release it until after we release 11.2.3 though - as soon as it's tagged I'll remove the block\ | 16:44 |
| Bjoern_ | yeah full support from support | 16:44 |
| Bjoern_ | as I has said we need to stop creating bugs for simple template changes | 16:45 |
| d34dh0r53 | I agree with odyssey4me on waiting | 16:45 |
| evrardjp | I'd minus one because I don't see docs that goes with these changes, according to previous comment | 16:45 |
| prometheanfire | I see what you did there | 16:45 |
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| d34dh0r53 | lol | 16:45 |
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| odyssey4me | evrardjp agreed - it'd be really nice to see a follow up patch to master showing how to use it | 16:45 |
| d34dh0r53 | I want a change to cherry pick and test this as well | 16:45 |
| d34dh0r53 | s/change/chance/ | 16:45 |
| cloudnull | docs https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228068/2/playbooks/library/config_template,cm | 16:46 |
| scarlisle | odyssey4me +1 | 16:46 |
| odyssey4me | alright - any volunteers to put together a doc entry? | 16:46 |
| cloudnull | do we want specific docs on how to use the module ? | 16:46 |
| cloudnull | that are outside of the module lib itself ? | 16:47 |
| BjoernT | I think we just need to expand the examples at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228068/2/playbooks/library/config_template,cm | 16:47 |
| odyssey4me | BjoernT ++ | 16:47 |
| stevelle | I think it would be helpful to reference it in the install guide | 16:47 |
| BjoernT | actually showing how to use config_overrides | 16:47 |
| evrardjp | good question... if there is a change to the deployer (because something was already one), then it deserves docs | 16:47 |
| odyssey4me | ok, I'm happy to put something together tomorrow as a starting point for the install guide | 16:47 |
| odyssey4me | it'll really help people know that it can be done and understand how to use it | 16:48 |
| cloudnull | related https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/12555 and https://github.com/ansible/ansible-modules-core/pull/2171 | 16:48 |
| evrardjp | but it doesn't need to be really thorough, just pointing to code could be enough | 16:48 |
| cloudnull | if that goes in the "docs" will be upstream for ansible2 | 16:48 |
| odyssey4me | #action odyssey4me to put together some docs on how to use the config_template for the install guide | 16:48 |
| d34dh0r53 | cloudnull: I think so, to me this seems like a major feature that you would want to let people know about | 16:48 |
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| odyssey4me | a quick note related to https://launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+milestone/11.2.3 | 16:49 |
| odyssey4me | we will release it tomorrow | 16:49 |
| evrardjp | nice to have upstreamed that, it will remove the need for docs in openstack-ansible :) | 16:49 |
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| cloudnull | evrardjp: my thoughts exactly :) | 16:49 |
| odyssey4me | we just need to get https://review.openstack.org/229275 merged, which is key for keystone stability | 16:49 |
| odyssey4me | it's been voted on, so no worries there | 16:49 |
| evrardjp | it could still be useful to mention how we use it and how a deployer can use/abuse it | 16:50 |
| odyssey4me | the final one which we could do with some testing on is https://review.openstack.org/229803 | 16:50 |
| odyssey4me | d34dh0r53 can you give https://review.openstack.org/229803 a test run to validate that it actually does what it's supposed to do? | 16:50 |
| d34dh0r53 | odyssey4me: yeah, I'll take a look at it this afternoon | 16:51 |
| odyssey4me | andymccr did a test run this morning and thinks it does, but the apt mirror failed half way through :/ | 16:51 |
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| cloudnull | odyssey4me: it worked for me this morning | 16:51 |
| cloudnull | and i rolled it up as a dep here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224137/ | 16:51 |
| BjoernT | is there a way that we can get notified if the apt mirror fails ? | 16:51 |
| odyssey4me | excellent cloudnull | 16:51 |
| cloudnull | cc BjoernT scarlisle ^ | 16:51 |
| odyssey4me | BjoernT it all depends which apt mirror is used :p | 16:51 |
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| odyssey4me | anyway, I think it's a pretty crucial fix to simplify the upgrades and make them more reliable | 16:52 |
| BjoernT | http://rpc-repo.rackspace.com in our case | 16:52 |
| odyssey4me | BjoernT not that mirror - it was the rax ubuntu mirror | 16:52 |
| odyssey4me | probably a london endpoint, if there is such a thing | 16:53 |
| cloudnull | https://mirror.rackspace.com/ubuntu/ | 16:53 |
| BjoernT | yeah I had issues with both | 16:53 |
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| odyssey4me | we're a bit out of time - evrardjp you had something you wanted to chat about? | 16:53 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Open discussion | 16:54 |
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| prometheanfire | I'd like input into what you'd like to see for the ops infra containers talk | 16:54 |
| prometheanfire | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TYO-ops-infrastructure-containers | 16:54 |
| cloudnull | I'd throw it out that if the cores have time we need to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224137/ in sooner than later. | 16:54 |
| prometheanfire | also, we might want to be at this talk as well https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TYO-ops-upgrades | 16:54 |
| evrardjp | yeah, it was about the ansible-galaxy requirements | 16:54 |
| scarlisle | Is there any way we can get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224137/ pushed through? | 16:54 |
| cloudnull | evrardjp: sure. | 16:55 |
| evrardjp | first I'm opening all this open discussion topics :) | 16:55 |
| prometheanfire | also, was gonna give a 5 min talk about cinder container conversion to physhosts | 16:55 |
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| prometheanfire | but might change that, and am open to suggestions | 16:55 |
| jmccrory | any plans to gate upgrades between branches? | 16:55 |
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| evrardjp | whatever, my conversation can wait, we can comment on the commit | 16:55 |
| evrardjp | but I'd like ppl to tell what they think of it then | 16:55 |
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| cloudnull | evrardjp: i think what you have is good. i like the batteries included approach . | 16:56 |
| evrardjp | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218818/ | 16:56 |
| evrardjp | there was a dicussion | 16:56 |
| evrardjp | about whether we should include the batteries or not ;) | 16:56 |
| cloudnull | i like batteries :) | 16:56 |
| evrardjp | so keep using the example file vs using the file | 16:56 |
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| evrardjp | Pros: It works directly. | 16:57 |
| evrardjp | Cons: it puts every deployer into the position where that extra role is downloaded whether they want it or not | 16:57 |
| evrardjp | (extract from the chan conversation we had) | 16:57 |
| cloudnull | jmccrory: not yet, however we're looking at adding periodic jobs in the infra gate | 16:57 |
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| prometheanfire | if people could update this with what they'd like to see that'd be nice :D https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TYO-ops-infrastructure-containers | 16:57 |
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| cloudnull | first up is a gate from last juno to last kilo but thatll expand im sure. | 16:58 |
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| odyssey4me | #action everyone to add what they'd like to see as a ops chat on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TYO-ops-infrastructure-containers | 16:58 |
| cloudnull | evrardjp: i dont ming the extra role download | 16:58 |
| prometheanfire | thanks :D | 16:58 |
| cloudnull | *mind | 16:58 |
| evrardjp | odyssey4me, ok too for the extra role dl ? | 16:58 |
| evrardjp | if I got two yes, It's a go for me, right? :D | 16:59 |
| odyssey4me | Let's take the discussion about https://review.openstack.org/224137 to the channel after the meeting | 16:59 |
| evrardjp | k | 16:59 |
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| cloudnull | if we're moving to external roles i dont think the deployer should have to modify a file to get the things they need | 16:59 |
| odyssey4me | and the same for https://review.openstack.org/218818 | 16:59 |
| evrardjp | same for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218818/ | 16:59 |
| odyssey4me | we're pretty much out of time - let's move over to #openstack-ansible and continue | 16:59 |
| evrardjp | ok | 16:59 |
| evrardjp | thanks for the meeting | 16:59 |
| odyssey4me | thanks you all! | 17:00 |
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| cloudnull | thanks everyone ! | 17:00 |
| prometheanfire | cya | 17:00 |
| odyssey4me | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
| scarlisle | thanks everyone! | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 1 17:00:12 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2015/openstack_ansible_meeting.2015-10-01-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
| LouisF | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 1 17:00:33 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is LouisF. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| johnsom | o/ | 17:00 |
| LouisF | hi all | 17:01 |
| xgerman | o/ | 17:01 |
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| s3wong | hello | 17:01 |
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| vikram | hi | 17:01 |
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| LouisF | vikram: hi | 17:02 |
| vikram | LouisF: hello ;) | 17:02 |
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| amotoki | hi, long time no see :) | 17:02 |
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| vikram | amotoki: welcome to the party ;) | 17:02 |
| davidlenwell | hi | 17:02 |
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| LouisF | lets discuss issues relating to the patches | 17:03 |
| LouisF | vikram: do you have questions about the patches? | 17:03 |
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| vikram | LouisF: Yes I do! | 17:04 |
| LouisF | vikram: go ahead | 17:04 |
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| vikram | LouisF: amotoki has raised a concern on having migration,db and extension changes together | 17:04 |
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| vikram | LouisF: I believe he has a valid point | 17:04 |
| vikram | what is the opinion on this? | 17:05 |
| LouisF | we split them up so the review process would be manageable | 17:05 |
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| amotoki | LouisF: generally speaking, db models and db migration scripts need to be reviewed at the same time. | 17:06 |
| amotoki | LouisF: and they need to be consistent. | 17:06 |
| amotoki | This is my poiint. | 17:07 |
| vikram | amotoki: +1 | 17:07 |
| LouisF | we can combine commits 2/6, 3/6 4/6 if all agree | 17:07 |
| vikram | LouisF: Actually, we can have separate patches .. | 17:07 |
| vikram | LouisF: 2/6: Just address db-migration framework | 17:08 |
| amotoki | I am fine to combine them. Another option is that 2/6 introduces db-migraetion framework only. | 17:08 |
| vikram | LouisF: 3/6: Flowclassifier db + data model + extension | 17:08 |
| vikram | LouisF: 4/6: for port chain | 17:09 |
| LouisF | vikram: i would prefer to have them combined | 17:09 |
| vikram | amotoki: If we have only one then it will become very dense | 17:09 |
| s3wong | vikram: I thought amotoki mentioned we want to have DB model and migration in the same patch? | 17:09 |
| amotoki | s3wong: yes. right. | 17:09 |
| vikram | s3wong: I mean to have separate patches for flowclassifer and port chain | 17:09 |
| LouisF | vikram: prefer to have fc and pc in same patch | 17:10 |
| vikram | addressing their API and DB model togethet | 17:10 |
| s3wong | vikram: so no need to have a DB migration framework patch, right? | 17:10 |
| vikram | LouisF: I have no issues, but the patch will become dense again | 17:10 |
| pcarver_ | The original patch was just too huge, but in breaking them up we need to have them in usable chunks | 17:10 |
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| pcarver_ | I think it makes sense to group DB model and migration as the first, because that needs to be merged before the other parts can do anything | 17:11 |
| LouisF | pcarver_: agree we can have a separate patch for services, drivers | 17:11 |
| vikram | pcarver_, Louis: I don't have issues | 17:12 |
| s3wong | pcarver_: +1 | 17:12 |
| pcarver_ | but we don't want to have a situation where we have to merge everything simultaneously, otherwise it's no different than one big patch with multiple Gerrit numbers | 17:12 |
| vikram | pcarver_, Louis: We only got to review ;) | 17:12 |
| amotoki | In usual convention in neutron, we introduce extensions and db models in a same patch and then implements drivers or other stuffs. | 17:12 |
| amotoki | pcarver_: +1 | 17:12 |
| LouisF | +1 | 17:12 |
| s3wong | pcarver_: in that case, we should set up the patchset dependencies accordingly | 17:12 |
| vikram | amotoki: that we are anyways doing.. | 17:12 |
| amotoki | yeah | 17:12 |
| vikram | amotoki: We have separate patch for services and driver | 17:12 |
| vikram | Only concern is 2/6, 3/6 and 4/6 | 17:13 |
| vikram | if we all agree we can combine these | 17:13 |
| LouisF | vikram: can you create a patch with api, db and migration and I will create one with services, driver.. | 17:13 |
| pcarver_ | s3wong: I agree. Ideally we would have a linear series of dependent patches where we can focus on reviewing and merging each in sequence | 17:13 |
| pcarver_ | LouisF: does API have to be combined with DB? | 17:14 |
| vikram | LouisF: Ok, I can merge those | 17:14 |
| vikram | LouisF: One more question | 17:14 |
| s3wong | pcarver_: and if there exists a patch set that doesn't depend on anything, or if multiple patch sets depend on another patch set, we should publish them accordingly | 17:14 |
| LouisF | pcarver_: that what amotoki suggested | 17:14 |
| s3wong | that way, we can review them in proper sequence | 17:14 |
| vikram | LouisF: I think we shouldn't merge ovs db changes with that.. You have to do it with the driver patch | 17:14 |
| pcarver_ | LouisF: My question (and I don't have a preconceived answer in mind) is does DB depend on API? | 17:15 |
| LouisF | vi ok | 17:15 |
| pcarver_ | I know the API won't work if the DB isn't there | 17:15 |
| amotoki | pcarver_: LouisF: extensions can be added separately, but in most cases it has no meaning without DB. | 17:15 |
| pcarver_ | But I think it would be possible to merge the DB + migration changes without needing the API | 17:15 |
| LouisF | amotoki: i think they should be in the same patch | 17:16 |
| amotoki | we can test a patch with DB and extensions :-) | 17:16 |
| vikram | LouisF: Patch size will come close to 6K | 17:16 |
| vikram | LouisF: I believe Kyle will not have any concern | 17:16 |
| vikram | mestery: ping | 17:17 |
| amotoki | I think the size itself is not a problem as long as it is not complicated. | 17:17 |
| LouisF | vikram: he did have a comment on the size of our first patch set | 17:17 |
| vikram | amotoki: No issues then .. If we all agree then I can merge | 17:17 |
| LouisF | +1 | 17:18 |
| amotoki | +1 | 17:18 |
| vikram | +1 | 17:18 |
| s3wong | +1 | 17:18 |
| LouisF | #agree vikram to combine api, db and migration | 17:18 |
| vikram | okay then merge 2/6, 3/6, 4/6 | 17:18 |
| vikram | LouisF: You got to take care of OVS data model | 17:19 |
| LouisF | vikram: ok will do | 17:19 |
| vikram | LouisF: ok | 17:19 |
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| LouisF | another issue is the py34 failure | 17:19 |
| vikram | LouisF: Which patch | 17:20 |
| LouisF | 3/6 | 17:20 |
| vikram | LouisF: My mistake.. Will fix it up | 17:20 |
| LouisF | ok | 17:21 |
| vikram | LouisF: You won't see any failures in the merged patch ;) | 17:21 |
| LouisF | vi great | 17:21 |
| vikram | Another issue I want to bring to notice | 17:21 |
| LouisF | vikram: go ahead | 17:21 |
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| vikram | Let's review "https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229841"... this address amotoki concerns on parameter issues | 17:22 |
| vikram | We got to agree on this quick | 17:22 |
| vikram | *quickly | 17:22 |
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| amotoki | it comes from the discussion in the CLI patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210008/ | 17:23 |
| LouisF | the parameter naming? | 17:23 |
| vikram | yes | 17:23 |
| amotoki | yes | 17:23 |
| LouisF | specifally? | 17:24 |
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| s3wong | vikram: are you going to address amotoki's nit comments on the next patchset for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229841? | 17:24 |
| amotoki | we accept both name and ID for neutron port. Then source-port and source-port-id cannot be distinguished. | 17:24 |
| LouisF | specifically? | 17:24 |
| vikram | s3wong: yes, i will .. if it gets merged | 17:25 |
| amotoki | s3wong: vikram: my comment on 229841 is just a nit. we can merge it as-is. | 17:25 |
| vikram | amotoki: ok | 17:25 |
| LouisF | amotoki: ok | 17:26 |
| s3wong | vikram, amotoki: OK | 17:26 |
| vikram | I will take care of these in the next patch-set.. | 17:26 |
| vikram | both server + cli patches | 17:26 |
| amotoki | sorry for coming in late, but I believe it is worth addressed before the initial merge. | 17:27 |
| vikram | Request cores to kindly review and approve the changes ;) | 17:27 |
| s3wong | vikram: reviewed and voted | 17:27 |
| vikram | s3wong: thanks | 17:28 |
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| vikram | Some polishing I have done while reviewing | 17:28 |
| vikram | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229765/ | 17:28 |
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| vikram | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229777/ | 17:29 |
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| vikram | Request team to kindly provide their opinion | 17:29 |
| vikram | LouisF: I am done ;) | 17:29 |
| LouisF | vikram: ok will review | 17:29 |
| vikram | LouisF: Thanks | 17:29 |
| LouisF | vikram: we can add content to those docs? | 17:30 |
| vikram | LouisF: I didn't get? | 17:30 |
| LouisF | ignore my q | 17:31 |
| vikram | LouisF: ok | 17:31 |
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| LouisF | any other comments on these patches? | 17:32 |
| LouisF | #topic cli commands | 17:33 |
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| LouisF | is mohan on? | 17:33 |
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| vikram | LouisF: Mohan has verified the cli's.. all are working fine | 17:33 |
| LouisF | i see he updated the CLI patch | 17:33 |
| vikram | mohan not able to make it today | 17:34 |
| vikram | LouisF: We need to push another patch-set addressing latest API changes and then we are done ;) | 17:34 |
| LouisF | vikram: good to hear, we are also starting to test with those cli commands | 17:34 |
| vikram | LouisF: I will post the patch tomorrow | 17:34 |
| LouisF | vikram: great | 17:34 |
| LouisF | #topic horizon | 17:35 |
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| LouisF | vikram: do you know when mohan can post the latest horizon code? | 17:35 |
| vikram | LouisF: Horizon needs more testing.. | 17:36 |
| vikram | LouisF: He will be able to post by next week | 17:36 |
| vikram | meeting | 17:36 |
| LouisF | vikram: thanks | 17:36 |
| amotoki | I can review it from the perspective of horizon team next week. | 17:37 |
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| vikram | amotoki: thanks | 17:37 |
| LouisF | amotoki: thanks | 17:37 |
| LouisF | #topic testing | 17:37 |
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| LouisF | i think the unit tests are in good shape | 17:38 |
| vikram | LouisF: how about the agent code | 17:38 |
| vikram | LouisF: by when we can post them | 17:38 |
| LouisF | vikram: post today | 17:38 |
| vikram | LouisF: Great! | 17:38 |
| vikram | LouisF: Can you please summarize the patch sequence.. | 17:39 |
| vikram | LouisF: Just to clarify | 17:39 |
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| vikram | LouisF: Sorry to interrupt :( | 17:39 |
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| LouisF | vikram: requirements; combined db, migration and api; services and driver manager; drivers | 17:40 |
| vikram | LouisF: Perfect.. I am on the same page.. thanks | 17:41 |
| LouisF | vikram: great | 17:41 |
| LouisF | back to testing | 17:41 |
| LouisF | we need to add api, full stack .. | 17:42 |
| LouisF | any volunteers to start to look at that? | 17:43 |
| vikram | api test i can take care for db patch | 17:44 |
| vikram | db patch i can take care E2E.. | 17:44 |
| LouisF | vikram: ok thanks | 17:44 |
| vikram | LouisF: I feel API test we only got to write for db patch.. | 17:45 |
| vikram | as it will have new API's | 17:45 |
| LouisF | vikram: yes, i would agree | 17:45 |
| vikram | Please correct me if I am wrong | 17:45 |
| LouisF | ok, i will have a look at full stack | 17:46 |
| LouisF | any other questions, concerns? | 17:47 |
| amotoki | vikram: what do you mean by "API test by db patch"? It is not a unit test. | 17:47 |
| vikram | amotoki: I mean tempest tests | 17:48 |
| amotoki | vikram: got it. thanks | 17:48 |
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| LouisF | vikram: when will you post the combined patch? | 17:49 |
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| vikram | LouisF: Will post by tomorrow EOD my time | 17:49 |
| vikram | LouisF: Without API tests ;) | 17:49 |
| LouisF | vikram: np, thanks | 17:50 |
| LouisF | ok thanks all | 17:50 |
| vikram | LouisF: Will post both CLI and server changes.. so that we are not blocked | 17:50 |
| LouisF | vikram: thanks | 17:50 |
| LouisF | bye all | 17:51 |
| LouisF | #endmeeting | 17:51 |
| vikram | bye | 17:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:51 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 1 17:51:47 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2015/service_chaining.2015-10-01-17.00.html | 17:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2015/service_chaining.2015-10-01-17.00.txt | 17:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2015/service_chaining.2015-10-01-17.00.log.html | 17:51 |
| amotoki | thanks, bye | 17:52 |
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