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| nikhil | #startmeeting glance_artifacts_sub_team | 14:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 28 14:01:38 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is nikhil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance_artifacts_sub_team)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance_artifacts_sub_team' | 14:01 |
| ativelkov | Hi folks | 14:01 |
| sigmavirus24 | o/ | 14:01 |
| nikhil | sigmavirus24: ativelkov mfedosin flaper87 rosmaita courtesy meeting reminder | 14:02 |
| ativelkov | Thanks nikhil | 14:02 |
| nikhil | #chair ativelkov | 14:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: ativelkov nikhil | 14:02 |
| nikhil | #topic agenda | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: glance_artifacts_sub_team)" | 14:02 | |
| nikhil | There's no official agenda for today and I don't have anything new to add. | 14:02 |
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| nikhil | ativelkov: if you would like to run the rest of the meeting that would be great or should we start a open discussion? | 14:03 |
| ativelkov | I can give brief update | 14:03 |
| nikhil | Thanks. feel free to use the # topics | 14:03 |
| ativelkov | #topic Status Update | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status Update (Meeting topic: glance_artifacts_sub_team)" | 14:04 | |
| ativelkov | I have actually two items here | 14:04 |
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| ativelkov | 1) We've reached an agreement with the Community Application Catalog team that we are going to make some kind of PoC work for them to demonstrate the potential of grance v3 usage to staore app catalog's data and metadata | 14:05 |
| ativelkov | to store* | 14:05 |
| nikhil | ativelkov: I would like to learn more about their req use cases | 14:05 |
| nikhil | what would be a good place to start? | 14:06 |
| * nikhil shuts up and waits for the status update to complete | 14:06 | |
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| ativelkov | nikhil: yup, I'll give the links a bit later | 14:07 |
| nikhil | thanks! | 14:07 |
| ativelkov | 2) mfedosin, me and the other folks from the artifacts team have made some kind of task breakdown for the refactorings of v3 API, which is likely to be proposed as artifacts roadmap for Mitaka | 14:08 |
| nikhil | cool | 14:09 |
| ativelkov | We'll put that into the spec when we migrate it to M branch | 14:09 |
| nikhil | I think we should come up with a plan as ask for feedback prior to summit | 14:09 |
| ativelkov | Sure | 14:09 |
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| ativelkov | I still haven't complited the first version of the wiki article, but I am working on that as well | 14:10 |
| ativelkov | will try to provide something for the early feedback on this week | 14:11 |
| nikhil | ativelkov: how about sharing a etherpad for some drafting help with a small group and then propose it to wiki? | 14:11 |
| ativelkov | nikhil: yup, thats exactly what I plan to do | 14:11 |
| ativelkov | will try to have that till Thursday meeting | 14:12 |
| nikhil | oh nice | 14:12 |
| ativelkov | That was all for the update part | 14:12 |
| ativelkov | #topic App Catalog PoC | 14:13 |
| nikhil | I have one item that I just realized | 14:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "App Catalog PoC (Meeting topic: glance_artifacts_sub_team)" | 14:13 | |
| ativelkov | oh, sure, please proceed | 14:13 |
| nikhil | :) | 14:13 |
| nikhil | ok, this will be fast | 14:13 |
| nikhil | #topic Liberty-artifacts-work-documentation | 14:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Liberty-artifacts-work-documentation (Meeting topic: glance_artifacts_sub_team)" | 14:13 | |
| nikhil | So, I had requested a BP for API and one for other foundation work that illustrates what was done in Liberty (that was a lot!) | 14:14 |
| nikhil | I think prior to release (late this week or next week) we should update specs so that the work shows up on specs.openstack.org | 14:15 |
| nikhil | There are a few other specs that I am working on cleaning up however, these are sort of important as a lot was done | 14:15 |
| nikhil | I would need help from you, ativelkov and possible mfedosin on this. | 14:15 |
| nikhil | possibly* | 14:15 |
| * nikhil done | 14:15 | |
| ativelkov | sure, we'll give any needed help | 14:16 |
| nikhil | awesome | 14:16 |
| nikhil | #topic App Catalog PoC | 14:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "App Catalog PoC (Meeting topic: glance_artifacts_sub_team)" | 14:16 | |
| nikhil | ativelkov: all yours | 14:16 |
| ativelkov | Thanks | 14:16 |
| ativelkov | So, for now the website on http://apps.openstack.org has no backend | 14:17 |
| nikhil | :/ | 14:17 |
| ativelkov | all the data which describes its "assets" (which is technically very similar to the artifacts) are described with simple jason files | 14:17 |
| ativelkov | json* | 14:17 |
| ativelkov | this is obviously does not scale well | 14:18 |
| ativelkov | So, the team of the app catalog is currently investigating the possibilities for the new backend, with appropriate APIs etc | 14:19 |
| ativelkov | They are gathering the requirements for that backend at the etherpad at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/app-catalog-v2-backend | 14:19 |
| nikhil | excellent | 14:20 |
| nikhil | I am gunna ask if some prod mgrs would be interested in adding feedback | 14:20 |
| ativelkov | I truly believe that the overall idea of the service which catalogs the artifacts metadata and data maps perfectly maps to what we are doing in glance v3 | 14:20 |
| ativelkov | however, we need to demonstrate that, as for now they are not buying the idea and prefer to proceed on their own instead | 14:21 |
| nikhil | hmm, that's weird | 14:22 |
| nikhil | what are they worried about? | 14:22 |
| ativelkov | They do not want to run the Glance for this backend | 14:22 |
| ativelkov | But we definitely need to have more discussions | 14:23 |
| nikhil | sure. I am curious why not. | 14:23 |
| sigmavirus24 | ativelkov: perhaps they're also concerned about the API stability? (since it's supposed to change pursuant to API-WG feedback)? | 14:23 |
| ativelkov | I don't understand it completely as well | 14:23 |
| sigmavirus24 | (Also has a spec for the API merged yet?) | 14:24 |
| ativelkov | sigmavirus24: we were having the discussions with them keeping in mind the planned change to stabilize the API | 14:24 |
| * sigmavirus24 hasn't been part of the discussion, just imagining things that would make him hesitant to use it | 14:24 | |
| jokke_ | tbh I do understand ... I wouldn't start implementing something that might have big scalability needs and stability need on experimental service/api | 14:25 |
| ativelkov | The spec is not there yet, as we are told not to push it much, given all the buzz with v1->v2 migrations and defcore things | 14:25 |
| jokke_ | Specially with all the fuzz around Glance | 14:25 |
| ativelkov | This is not something anybody implements right now | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | ah | 14:26 |
| nikhil | I see | 14:26 |
| ativelkov | So, this is just a question on choosing the direction | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | so it's not like supposed to be implemented during mitaka or so? | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | aha | 14:26 |
| ativelkov | or at least I see it like that | 14:26 |
| ativelkov | Probably we'll need to discuss it more with the app-cat team | 14:26 |
| nikhil | +1 on more discussions | 14:27 |
| ativelkov | see the ML thread called "[openstack-dev] [murano] [app-catalog] versions for murano assets in the catalog" | 14:27 |
| ativelkov | (it's actually started with murano, but turned-out to discuss glance's usage for the app-catalog needs) | 14:28 |
| ativelkov | The last message is exactly about "We need closer communications between Murano, Glance, and App-Catalog going forward since each project has valuable things to contribute to the over all big picture." | 14:28 |
| ativelkov | I hope to come back to this before the summit | 14:28 |
| nikhil | ativelkov: I wonder if adding [Glance] tag to it is forbidden as well | 14:29 |
| nikhil | ? | 14:29 |
| ativelkov | nikhil: it is not :) | 14:29 |
| nikhil | cool | 14:29 |
| nikhil | we are out of time now | 14:30 |
| ativelkov | Yup, seems so | 14:30 |
| ativelkov | Thanks everybody | 14:30 |
| nikhil | Thanks! | 14:30 |
| nikhil | #endmeeting | 14:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:30 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 28 14:30:58 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_artifacts_sub_team/2015/glance_artifacts_sub_team.2015-09-28-14.01.html | 14:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_artifacts_sub_team/2015/glance_artifacts_sub_team.2015-09-28-14.01.txt | 14:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_artifacts_sub_team/2015/glance_artifacts_sub_team.2015-09-28-14.01.log.html | 14:31 |
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| apuimedo | #startmeeting kuryr | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 28 15:02:00 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is apuimedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| salv-orlando | aloha. Finally a monday without conflicts at 5PM my time. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kuryr' | 15:02 |
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| apuimedo | Hello and welcome to another Kuryr meeting! | 15:02 |
| apuimedo | who is here? | 15:02 |
| diga | o/ | 15:02 |
| tfukushima | o/ | 15:02 |
| banix | I/ | 15:02 |
| apuimedo | salv-orlando: so you are here for the meeting? | 15:03 |
| salv-orlando | apuimedo: yeah, for what else? | 15:04 |
| salv-orlando | surely you don't want me here to tell jokes ;) | 15:04 |
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| apuimedo | salv-orlando: jokes are nice to put the meeting in a nicer mood | 15:05 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 15:05 |
| apuimedo | #info salv-orlando banix tfukushima diga and apuimedo present in the meeting | 15:05 |
| apuimedo | #topic virtual sprint | 15:05 |
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| apuimedo | Last week tfukushima was working on a demo | 15:06 |
| apuimedo | tfukushima: please update us | 15:06 |
| tfukushima | Sorry, I had some urgent issues and I couldn't have the complete demo. | 15:06 |
| tfukushima | However, I have the incomplete one used somewhere. | 15:07 |
| tfukushima | https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwURaz1ic-5tUFlIQklJRnBQc2s/view?usp=sharing | 15:07 |
| apuimedo | tfukushima: Did you find any bugs while getting it to work? | 15:07 |
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| apuimedo | that we should discuss? | 15:07 |
| banix_ | tfukushima: apuimedo is the demo using the master or a different branch? | 15:07 |
| apuimedo | #link https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwURaz1ic-5tUFlIQklJRnBQc2s/view?usp=sharing | 15:08 |
| tfukushima | It's my local branch. But basically I put everything on GerritHub. | 15:08 |
| tfukushima | Actually patches on GerritHub are better. :-p | 15:08 |
| apuimedo | banix_: it's the work tfukushima had to do on top of master to get it to work | 15:08 |
| apuimedo | there was some stuff we had wrong about ip address setting | 15:08 |
| apuimedo | some other stuff about mac address | 15:09 |
| banix_ | tfukushima: what you need to do, you have submitted as patches? | 15:09 |
| salv-orlando | tfukushima: gerrit or github? Probably you're taling about the former as I see your patches to fix interactions wiht libnetwork | 15:09 |
| apuimedo | and other things | 15:09 |
| tfukushima | I made a shortkit for the default subnetpool because I could only get Juno stack. | 15:09 |
| apuimedo | I think he means gerrit | 15:09 |
| apuimedo | salv-orlando: salv-orlando he has been on a coding marathon since yesterday ;-) | 15:10 |
| tfukushima | Sorry I meant Gerrit. There's a service called GerritHub. I'm confused. | 15:10 |
| tfukushima | That's similar to Gerrit hosted by OpenStack community. | 15:10 |
| salv-orlando | tfukushima. apuimedo: no worries I just wanted to make sure I was looking at the right patches | 15:10 |
| apuimedo | #action tfukushima to address the reviews made on his latest patches | 15:10 |
| banix_ | tfukushima: so you have all your changes submitted to gerrit? | 15:10 |
| tfukushima | Yes, basically. | 15:11 |
| apuimedo | #info tfukushima's demo was done over Juno and he posted his changes to gerrit | 15:11 |
| banix_ | I found a few minor issues preventing the code from working at all, I submitted three tiny patches for those | 15:11 |
| tfukushima | I had bad workarounds in my local and I clean them up. The patches on Gerrit are nicer. | 15:11 |
| apuimedo | #info apuimedo prepared a kilo image to port the demo to it, since juno required some hacks | 15:12 |
| apuimedo | tfukushima: thanks tfukushima | 15:12 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 15:12 |
| tfukushima | banix_: Yes, I tested with Docker 1.8.0 experimental. | 15:12 |
| apuimedo | banix_: thanks for that. Di dyou add us as reviewers? | 15:12 |
| tfukushima | libnetwork APIs are changed a little bit in Docker 1.9.0 experimental. | 15:12 |
| apuimedo | the new image I made for tfukushima is with midonet+kilo+docker1.9 experimental | 15:13 |
| apuimedo | banix_: salv-orlando: I wonder if you would like access to the image | 15:13 |
| tfukushima | Yes, I'll run Kuryr against that env from now on. | 15:13 |
| apuimedo | good | 15:13 |
| banix_ | banix: thanks but no as it uses midonet | 15:14 |
| banix_ | i will using the rference implementation: ml2, ovs for testing | 15:14 |
| apuimedo | banix_: ok, It should be easy enough to reconfigure neutron, but I guess you have your own ;-) | 15:14 |
| tfukushima | s/shortkit/short circuit/ | 15:15 |
| apuimedo | banix_: great | 15:15 |
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| apuimedo | ok, moving to another virtual sprint topic | 15:15 |
| salv-orlando | apuimedo: I actually wonder if we should ensure it's publicly accessible, assuming it might be useful to all contributors | 15:15 |
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| apuimedo | salv-orlando: is there some place we can put qcow2 images in OSt infra? | 15:16 |
| apuimedo | or should we just put Puppet modules somewhere? | 15:16 |
| tfukushima | Yes, I want the reference stack with OVS publicly accessible. | 15:16 |
| apuimedo | my goal would be that we'd have it with Puppet so that infra can use it for the "tempest" testing | 15:16 |
| salv-orlando | apuimedo: the latter approach is probably more feasible. Maybe in kuryr itself, pending a more suitable place. | 15:17 |
| apuimedo | and then we could have sample manifests for OVS and midonet | 15:17 |
| apuimedo | salv-orlando: cool | 15:17 |
| salv-orlando | I'm not sure if we have an "openstack place" where images can be uploaded | 15:17 |
| apuimedo | so for the moment puppet it is ;-) and in the meantime maybe I can put the image in some server | 15:18 |
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| apuimedo | I was investigating about the cap_net_admin approach to running kuryr so it would not need root | 15:18 |
| apuimedo | We (me and Peter Saveliev from pyroute2) were able to drop privileges until only CAP_NET_ADMIN was remaining | 15:19 |
| banix_ | I will have a colleague work on the Kolla image for Kuryr | 15:19 |
| apuimedo | #info banix's team will work on the kolla image | 15:19 |
| apuimedo | banix_: that's great! | 15:20 |
| sdake | ya for mitaka we are going full on capabilities dropping and running as specific users for kolla | 15:20 |
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| apuimedo | Originally I wanted to have a kuryr user that got CAP_NET_ADMIN only instead of starting as root and dropping privileges | 15:20 |
| sdake | for improved security | 15:20 |
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| apuimedo | sdake: nice to see you here | 15:20 |
| sdake | just random luck i guess ;-) | 15:20 |
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| apuimedo | sdake: so are your service files starting the daemon as root and then dropping and changing? | 15:21 |
| sdake | we want to run as a user and drop prior to entering the container (have docker do the priviledge management early on) | 15:21 |
| apuimedo | makes sense | 15:21 |
| sdake | atm everythign runs as root | 15:22 |
| apuimedo | for the non containerized run I considered doing a small executable that did that for me | 15:22 |
| sdake | only some containers run with all capabiltieis | 15:22 |
| sdake | (--privieleged option) | 15:22 |
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| apuimedo | #info: both kolla and kuryr will run with dropped privileges and user switching in Mitaka | 15:22 |
| apuimedo | I want to talk to the systemd guys to see if I can avoid having the executable somehow | 15:23 |
| apuimedo | sdake: yes, that's how I saw it last time | 15:23 |
| apuimedo | sdake: who is leading this effort in kolla? | 15:24 |
| sdake | the privilege dropping? | 15:24 |
| sdake | undefined at this point, we typically all chip in | 15:24 |
| sdake | i generally do most of the facilitating | 15:24 |
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| apuimedo | ok | 15:24 |
| sdake | i expct it will happen in mitaka-1 | 15:25 |
| apuimedo | nice | 15:25 |
| apuimedo | #topic testing | 15:25 |
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| apuimedo | salv-orlando: do you have any news from talking with infra people about running functional tests in there? | 15:26 |
| apuimedo | I expect that having puppet modules will be a requirement | 15:26 |
| banix | salv-orlando is at the small pub again | 15:29 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 15:29 |
| sdake | running functional tests is a big job | 15:29 |
| sdake | be prepared for some pain :) | 15:29 |
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| apuimedo | sdake: :-) Thanks | 15:32 |
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| apuimedo | I didn't expect it easy, but it's good to go prepared into it | 15:32 |
| apuimedo | #topic: open floor | 15:32 |
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| apuimedo | Does anybody else have some topic to bring up? | 15:32 |
| sdake | so quick q | 15:32 |
| sdake | what type of containers do you intend to create exactly? | 15:33 |
| sdake | a whoel bunch or just one? | 15:33 |
| banix | apuimedo: so one piece missing is the libnetwork support for labels | 15:33 |
| salv-orlando | apuimedo: I had to answer another call. No I did not chat yet to infra people, thanks for the reminder. I'll make a note of doing that. | 15:33 |
| banix | sdake: just one is what I had in mind | 15:33 |
| apuimedo | #action salv-orlando to chat with the infra people about running func tests there | 15:33 |
| sdake | banix cool - we definately are willing to host the code inside kolla | 15:34 |
| apuimedo | sdake: there should be just one | 15:34 |
| sdake | so feel free to submit the patches there | 15:34 |
| apuimedo | for midonet there'll be two, one for midonet agent and one for kuryr | 15:34 |
| apuimedo | I expect other vendors to do similarly | 15:34 |
| banix | sdake: thanks, yes, working on getting kuryr in a decent shape | 15:34 |
| sdake | one thing we want to tackle in kolla is plugins for cinder/neutron/nova | 15:35 |
| sdake | there are about 50 plugins per cinder/neutron | 15:35 |
| sdake | and 10 in nova | 15:35 |
| banix | so using wget to get kuryr rather that installing through yum or apt-get is acceptable as a start point? | 15:35 |
| sdake | so we dont want to create 50 containers, but just 1 container that is plugin selectable | 15:35 |
| sdake | banix we have a system for source building | 15:35 |
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| tfukushima | banix: Regarding label, I'm not sure if libnetwork guys make it happen in Docker 1.9.0. | 15:35 |
| sdake | banix you basically point it at a git repo or a tarball.gz and it builds the image properly | 15:36 |
| tfukushima | #link Labels support for Network, Endpoint Create, Join #222 https://github.com/docker/libnetwork/pull/222 | 15:36 |
| banix | tfukushima: i am told it is in 1.9 plan and ready to be added but a few more high priority stuff remains for them | 15:36 |
| banix | tfukushima: yeah I talked to them, hopefully we will see it this week. How do you plan to use them? | 15:37 |
| banix | sdake: thanks | 15:37 |
| tfukushima | Ok, let's see... | 15:37 |
| banix | tfukushima: any particular use case for labels you have in mind? | 15:37 |
| tfukushima | Giving names of the networks and the endpoints to Kuryr. | 15:38 |
| sdake | banix when your ready to get started, join #kolla and one of the core reviewers can help walk you through how to create a container for from source building | 15:38 |
| tfukushima | Now we'll see Docker IDs as the names in Neutron. | 15:38 |
| apuimedo | #info kuryr will be a single container | 15:39 |
| banix | sdake: sounds good. Thank you. | 15:39 |
| apuimedo | #info kuryr will be a single kolla container for now | 15:39 |
| apuimedo | banix: IIRC the contact sdake gave us is SamYapple | 15:39 |
| sdake | Yaple | 15:40 |
| sdake | but feel free to contact anyone in #kolla that is a core reviewer | 15:40 |
| sdake | or anyone else for that matter | 15:40 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 15:40 |
| sdake | but the crs are the best folks to giveoyu wa lkthrough of the code | 15:40 |
| apuimedo | thanks sdake | 15:40 |
| banix | sure | 15:41 |
| apuimedo | sdake: what's the shape now of the ansible based orchestration of Kolla? | 15:41 |
| sdake | fantastically good? :) | 15:41 |
| sdake | if you could be more precise in oyur question i could give a more precise answer :) | 15:41 |
| apuimedo | if we were to base our functional tests on it, could we do so now, or should we wait for liberty release? | 15:41 |
| sdake | we are releasing rc1 tomorrow at 10am pst | 15:41 |
| sdake | (hopefully) | 15:42 |
| sdake | that is what i'd work against | 15:42 |
| sdake | (the liberty branch will happen at this time as well) | 15:42 |
| sdake | butreally I'd submit patches against master | 15:42 |
| sdake | we aren't backporting features into liberty | 15:42 |
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| apuimedo | sdake: thanks | 15:43 |
| banix | tfukushima: apuimedo can we make sure all corrections you make on your local branch get to master? | 15:43 |
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| apuimedo | banix: we'll re-run the demo on kilo with master plus what's on gerrit to make sure we didn't miss anything | 15:44 |
| apuimedo | otherwise we'll go crazy :P | 15:44 |
| banix | yes exactly | 15:44 |
| banix | :) | 15:44 |
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| apuimedo | #action tfukushima apuimedo to run the demo again on kilo + master + tfukushima's under review patches | 15:45 |
| apuimedo | anything else? | 15:45 |
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| tfukushima | #link patches https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/kuryr,n,z | 15:46 |
| apuimedo | thanks tfukushima | 15:48 |
| banix | thanks tfukushima | 15:48 |
| banix | by the way diga do you plan to update your patch? | 15:48 |
| apuimedo | banix: he had to take off | 15:48 |
| apuimedo | let's sync tomorrow with him on #openstack-neutron | 15:48 |
| apuimedo | banix: tfukushima: sdake: salv-orl_: diga: thanks for joining! | 15:49 |
| banix | apuimedo: ok | 15:49 |
| apuimedo | #endmeeting | 15:49 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 28 15:49:14 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2015/kuryr.2015-09-28-15.02.html | 15:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2015/kuryr.2015-09-28-15.02.txt | 15:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2015/kuryr.2015-09-28-15.02.log.html | 15:49 |
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| salv-orl_ | adieuuu | 15:53 |
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| Sukhdev | Hello Ironic-neutron folks | 16:00 |
| Sukhdev | time for the meeting | 16:00 |
| Sukhdev | #startmeeting ironic_neutron | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 28 16:00:48 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic_neutron)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic_neutron' | 16:00 |
| Sukhdev | Good morning folks | 16:01 |
| lazy_prince | 0/ | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron#Meeting_September_28.2C_2015 | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | please have a look at the agenda and feel free to add anything | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | jroll: are you here? | 16:02 |
| jroll | morning :) | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Announcements (Meeting topic: ironic_neutron)" | 16:02 | |
| Sukhdev | We have a new sheriff in town | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | jroll is new PTL for Ironic | 16:03 |
| jroll | :) | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | Welcome and congratulations to jroll and thanks for his great to devananda | 16:04 |
| lazy_prince | Congrats jroll | 16:04 |
| jroll | thanks :D | 16:04 |
| cragusa | congratulations!! | 16:04 |
| Sukhdev | jroll: would you like to announce anything? | 16:05 |
| jroll | ironic is open for mitaka development | 16:05 |
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| jroll | as such, I removed my -2 on the patches for this project | 16:05 |
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| Sukhdev | does this mean Liberty is done and out? | 16:06 |
| jroll | well, we released 4.2.0 and cut stable/liberty branch from there | 16:06 |
| jroll | liberty final is in a couple of weeks, if we have any backports between now and then we'll release 4.2.x and that will be liberty final | 16:06 |
| Sukhdev | cool - thanks for the update | 16:07 |
| jroll | but as far as the neutron/ironic integration things are concerned, development is wide open | 16:07 |
| Sukhdev | got it | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev | anybody has any other announcement? | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev | Lets dive into the agenda then | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Integration Status | 16:08 |
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| Sukhdev | I added additional like at the bottom of the etherpad - | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev | I noticed that create_port() request to Neutron does not have device_id and device_owners | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev | ML2 drivers needs this | 16:09 |
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| jroll | ah | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev | this is usually set by nova - now ironic has to do it | 16:09 |
| jroll | so I think device_id should probably be the ironic node uuid, without knowing what device_id is actually for :) | 16:10 |
| Sukhdev | jroll: yes, that is correct - that is what I have set it to | 16:10 |
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| jroll | and device_owner I presume would be the admin user ironic runs with | 16:10 |
| lazy_prince | okay.. will update it as needed.. | 16:10 |
| Sukhdev | and device_owner is compute:none | 16:10 |
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| Sukhdev | where none is zone - | 16:11 |
| jroll | oh. | 16:11 |
| jroll | maybe baremetal:? | 16:11 |
| jroll | since the bare metal service owns it, really | 16:11 |
| Sukhdev | we can replaced with actual zone | 16:11 |
| Sukhdev | I thought about baremetal as well - | 16:11 |
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| jroll | I'm not sure what to do with the zone; ironic doesn't really have that concept today | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev | with this modification, I was able to see ML2 drivers pushing the Ironic config to the HW | 16:12 |
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| jroll | \o/ | 16:12 |
| Guest4568 | Hi Sukhdev, | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev | Guest4568: hi | 16:13 |
| Guest4568 | I'm am siva | 16:13 |
| Sukhdev | in that case we can use "compute:none" | 16:13 |
| Guest4568 | Were you able to pass binding profile information for port aggregation as well? | 16:13 |
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| jroll | Sukhdev: is there any reason not to use 'baremetal:none' there? | 16:14 |
| Sukhdev | Guest4568: no - I am not testing port aggregation yet - single port test so far | 16:14 |
| Guest4568 | what about LLDP? | 16:14 |
| lazy_prince | lldp was not planned for the first cut.. | 16:15 |
| Sukhdev | jroll: Ironic is compute as well - hence, it has to start with compute | 16:15 |
| jroll | LLDP isn't in the scope of this | 16:15 |
| Guest4568 | ah ok | 16:15 |
| Sukhdev | we can use the second part as baremetal - i.e. "compute:baremetal" or compute:none | 16:15 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: ironic is the openstack baremetal service, nova is the openstack compute service, baremetal makes sense to me from that perspective | 16:15 |
| jroll | "the owner of this port is the baremetal service" | 16:15 |
| jroll | keep in mind I'm not sure what this is used for in a neutron context :) | 16:16 |
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| Sukhdev | this represents in neutron the port owner - such as compute, dhcp , router | 16:16 |
| jroll | hm | 16:17 |
| devananda | Sukhdev: ironic is "compute" in as much as openstack has three kinds of resources (compute, network storage) -- but it does not register with keystone as "compute" service | 16:17 |
| Sukhdev | neutron does not have concept of baremetal - it know compute | 16:17 |
| lazy_prince | well.. I am fine with compute:baremetal | 16:17 |
| jroll | we can go with compute at the moment and check with neutron folks later if compute or baremetal makes sense | 16:17 |
| Sukhdev | jroll: makes sense - I can bring it up in neutron core meeting for a comment | 16:18 |
| jroll | perfect, ty | 16:18 |
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| Sukhdev | for now - just to make forward progress, I am using compute:none | 16:18 |
| Sukhdev | Others have any update on the integration? | 16:19 |
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| Sukhdev | devananda: thanks for clarifyining that distinction | 16:19 |
| Sukhdev | I have one more new item on the agenda to discuss | 16:20 |
| Sukhdev | this is related to integration as well | 16:20 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Tenant IDs for networks | 16:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Tenant IDs for networks (Meeting topic: ironic_neutron)" | 16:20 | |
| Sukhdev | I noticed during integration that different tenant ID(s) are moved around in the create_port() requests | 16:21 |
| Sukhdev | I thought we discuss and get it clarified | 16:21 |
| Sukhdev | for example - | 16:21 |
| Sukhdev | Provisioning network is created under admin | 16:21 |
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| Sukhdev | when a port_create() request comes to add port to this provisioning network, the tenant ID is "service tenant" - not admin | 16:22 |
| Sukhdev | ML2 driver was acting up and rejecting it | 16:22 |
| jroll | hmm, I wonder if we need to escalate to admin context in the code that creates that port? | 16:23 |
| jroll | I should say, I know we need to, I wonder if that code doesn't do it | 16:23 |
| lazy_prince | hmm.. probably, i need to look into it.. | 16:24 |
| Sukhdev | I was not sure what is the correct deployment scenario - hence, I thought we discuss it here | 16:25 |
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| Sukhdev | To keep ML2 drivers happy, I am hacking in neutron to swap the tenant ID from service to admin | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | but, I know that is not correct - but, wanted to see ML2 driver plumb the HW correctly :-) | 16:26 |
| jroll | the provisioning/cleaning networks should definitely be owned by the admin in this case | 16:26 |
| lazy_prince | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139687/23/ironic/networks/neutron_plugin.py L34 | 16:27 |
| Sukhdev | in that case, Ironic driver needs to set the correct tenant ID in the request | 16:27 |
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| lazy_prince | Thats where admin context is being picked up.. not sure if its the right approach.. | 16:28 |
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| Sukhdev | lazy_prince: I think that helps with the authentication of the API - which seems to work, right? | 16:29 |
| jroll | lazy_prince: that code looks right to me | 16:30 |
| Sukhdev | however, we should check if the admin's tenant ID is present/available in that context | 16:30 |
| lazy_prince | yup.. actually... it worked for me in my env.. not sure why it is not working for Sukhdev | 16:30 |
| jroll | yeah, this sounds like an environment issue | 16:30 |
| Sukhdev | lazy_prince: do you use tenant ID in the ML2 driver? | 16:31 |
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| lazy_prince | may be we can take a look at it post meeting.. | 16:31 |
| jroll | ++ | 16:31 |
| Sukhdev | lazy_prince: will be great if you can stick around after the meeting - we can dig into this | 16:32 |
| lazy_prince | yes.. I used different tenants to create the networks.. and then provisioned instances.. the prov and clean network were in admin tenant.. | 16:32 |
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| Sukhdev | That is it from me regarding the integration effort | 16:33 |
| Sukhdev | I am still waiting on the updated patch from lazy_prince to test the cleaning and switching to tenant network | 16:34 |
| Sukhdev | lazy_prince: any ETA on when will you be able to push it? | 16:34 |
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| lazy_prince | I did push a patch today around 15mins back.. but It still has some issues.. and some were pointed by Sukhdev as device_id and device owner.. will fix them and push in a while.. | 16:35 |
| lazy_prince | sorry.. had some family issues last week.. hence delays.. | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev | lazy_prince: cool - thanks - will check it out | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev | lazy_prince: with the updated patch, you are able to delete the ports, and switch to the networks, right? | 16:37 |
| lazy_prince | okay.. so on that.. Sukhdev: what drivers were you using during your testing..? | 16:37 |
| lazy_prince | drivers as in ironic drivers for the baremetal nodes.. | 16:38 |
| Sukhdev | lazy_prince: don't remember from the top of my head - is there a specific one I should be using? | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev | lazy_prince: I have to file away my VM to look - but, most likely ssh pxe | 16:39 |
| lazy_prince | na.. just checking if you are using agent ones or pxe ones with bash deploy images.. | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev | s/file/fire | 16:40 |
| lazy_prince | got it.. So that part wasnt taken care of.. probably the latest patch should help.. | 16:40 |
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| Sukhdev | lazy_prince: will send out a shout once I get to play with the latest patch | 16:41 |
| lazy_prince | sure.. | 16:42 |
| Sukhdev | lazy_prince: do you have anything to share regarding your testing? | 16:42 |
| Sukhdev | cragusa that goes for you as well | 16:42 |
| lazy_prince | i believe the pxe_ssh uses iscsi based deployment.. which was missing from the patch.. | 16:43 |
| cragusa | uhm, I only did the documentation | 16:43 |
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| lazy_prince | I have added it today.. so that should help.. | 16:43 |
| Sukhdev | lazy_prince: cool thanks | 16:43 |
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| Sukhdev | cragusa:we'll cover it in next topic | 16:43 |
| Sukhdev | Lets move on... | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Action Items from previous week | 16:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Action Items from previous week (Meeting topic: ironic_neutron)" | 16:44 | |
| Sukhdev | cragusa, lazy_prince, and Sukhdev - we all had one item each | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev | I have no update - I have been busy testing ML2 inegration - did not have time to look into documentation yet | 16:45 |
| cragusa | I committed my earlier on | 16:45 |
| lazy_prince | I did my part to some extent.. will do rest in a bit.. | 16:45 |
| cragusa | let me know if that's what you were thinking | 16:46 |
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| Sukhdev | cragusa: can you share the link? | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev | cragusa: Also, if you can add it to the etherpad - create a new section for documentation - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-neutron-mid-cycle | 16:47 |
| cragusa | sure | 16:47 |
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| Sukhdev | cragusa: you were going to look into this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206163 | 16:48 |
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| Sukhdev | Any update on this? Do we need this? etc.. | 16:49 |
| jroll | why wouldn't we need that | 16:49 |
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| jroll | nova will need to know about the MACs for the portgroup to create the ports no? | 16:49 |
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| Sukhdev | jroll: probably yes - but, the logic is not correct - does not match with our design. If we need it, we need to correct it | 16:50 |
| Sukhdev | somebody needs to own/take over this - | 16:50 |
| Sukhdev | I have not been testing port-groups, hence, have not been hit with this yet :-):-) | 16:51 |
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| jroll | Sukhdev: well, we did say we were only going to support (# of networks) <= (# of port/portgroups) to start | 16:51 |
| jroll | right? | 16:51 |
| Sukhdev | I have to jolt my memory to answer this correctly | 16:52 |
| Sukhdev | :-) | 16:52 |
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| Sukhdev | I think the answer to your question is - yes | 16:53 |
| Sukhdev | need to refer to the spec - which Laura wrote | 16:53 |
| Sukhdev | We need a new owner for this patch - as Laura is not available anymore - and clean it as appropriate | 16:54 |
| * Sukhdev 5 min left - I need to cover couple of items quickly | 16:55 | |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Open Discussion | 16:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Open Discussion (Meeting topic: ironic_neutron)" | 16:55 | |
| Sukhdev | jroll: A question for you - Should we have design session topic for this in Tokyo | 16:56 |
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| jroll | Sukhdev: is there something to design? :) | 16:56 |
| Sukhdev | jroll: the next phase - discoverdd - lldp, integration etc... | 16:56 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: oh, that. :) you're welcome to propose something: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-ironic-design-summit-ideas | 16:57 |
| Sukhdev | cragusa are you up for it? I can work with you on this? | 16:57 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: please do be specific as to what you want to cover, the discovery stuff may be less important to the larger ironic team | 16:57 |
| Sukhdev | and anybody else who wants to join in | 16:57 |
| Sukhdev | jroll: basically - automate the whole thing for the end-users | 16:58 |
| Sukhdev | jroll: let me think about it - perhaps we can discuss in next week's meeting | 16:58 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: not all end users use inspector :) | 16:58 |
| jroll | but yes, please do outline your thoughts on the 'pad | 16:58 |
| Sukhdev | jroll: another question for you - | 16:59 |
| jroll | you have 30 seconds :P | 16:59 |
| Sukhdev | jroll: now that mitaka is open - we need blueprint for nova so that we can get the code merged | 16:59 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: yes, we do | 16:59 |
| Sukhdev | jroll: can you take an action on it? | 16:59 |
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| jroll | Sukhdev: I can, going to be very busy the next couple of weeks though | 17:00 |
| Sukhdev | Any volunteers? | 17:00 |
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| Sukhdev | jroll: I can do it - but, you will have to help - I am not familiar with nova policies | 17:00 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: ok, let's chat later on it | 17:01 |
| Sukhdev | we are out of time - | 17:01 |
| Sukhdev | thanks folks - great discussion | 17:01 |
| Sukhdev | bye | 17:01 |
| cragusa | \query Sukhdev: yhvh's messages have been ignored somehow this whole session | 17:01 |
| lazy_prince | bye.. | 17:01 |
| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 28 17:01:29 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2015/ironic_neutron.2015-09-28-16.00.html | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2015/ironic_neutron.2015-09-28-16.00.txt | 17:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2015/ironic_neutron.2015-09-28-16.00.log.html | 17:01 |
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| Sukhdev | Hello L2GW folks | 17:02 |
| Sukhdev | time for our meeting | 17:02 |
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| Sukhdev | #startmeeting networking_l2gw | 17:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 28 17:04:21 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_l2gw)" | 17:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_l2gw' | 17:04 |
| Sukhdev | armax: are you here? | 17:05 |
| armax | armax: I am, but I am not | 17:05 |
| Sukhdev | I do not see other L2 GW folks here | 17:05 |
| Sukhdev | armax: congratulations!!! | 17:06 |
| armax | Sukhdev: thanks | 17:06 |
| Sukhdev | armax: where is my beer? | 17:06 |
| armax | you’ll get one in the mail | 17:07 |
| armax | in a few days | 17:07 |
| Sukhdev | armax: :) | 17:07 |
| armax | every voter who voted for me is | 17:07 |
| armax | bribe and all? | 17:07 |
| armax | :P | 17:07 |
| Sukhdev | armax: I do not see anybody else here from L2GW meeting - | 17:08 |
| * armax kids | 17:08 | |
| armax | um I wonder if it’s holiday | 17:08 |
| armax | in India | 17:08 |
| Sukhdev | probably | 17:08 |
| Sukhdev | So, there are two patches where I need your help - others are in good shape | 17:09 |
| Sukhdev | once those merge, then we can plan to cut a release | 17:09 |
| Sukhdev | armax: this is one - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206638/ | 17:09 |
| armax | I haven’t reviewed that one yet | 17:10 |
| Sukhdev | armax: the other one - you are already on top of it - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202495/ | 17:10 |
| Sukhdev | if you can spare few cycles for this - before the PTL duties bog you down, would be nice | 17:10 |
| Sukhdev | other than these two, we are in good shape - as soon as those go in, we can plan the release | 17:11 |
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| Sukhdev | armax: other than that, I do not have anything - | 17:12 |
| armax | ok | 17:12 |
| Sukhdev | armax: so, I am thinking to make this short and sweet | 17:12 |
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| armax | Sukhdev: sounds like a plan | 17:12 |
| Sukhdev | armax: cool - thanks - we are done in that case | 17:12 |
| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 17:13 |
| armax | ok | 17:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:13 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 28 17:13:06 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:13 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_l2gw/2015/networking_l2gw.2015-09-28-17.04.html | 17:13 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_l2gw/2015/networking_l2gw.2015-09-28-17.04.txt | 17:13 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_l2gw/2015/networking_l2gw.2015-09-28-17.04.log.html | 17:13 |
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