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| nikhil | Courtesy meeting reminder: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, ivasilevskaya, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, zhiyan, pkoniszewski, krykowski, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishekk, bunting, dshakhray | 14:00 |
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| nikhil | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 24 14:00:21 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is nikhil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| ativelkov | o/ | 14:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| harshs | o/ | 14:00 |
| bunting | o/ | 14:00 |
| nikhil | #topic agenda | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:00 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 14:00 |
| mfedosin | o/ | 14:00 |
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| rosmaita | o/ | 14:00 |
| wxy_ | o/ | 14:00 |
| nikhil | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:00 |
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| hemanthm | o/ | 14:01 |
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| kragniz | o/ | 14:01 |
| bpoulos | o/ | 14:01 |
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| flaper87 | o/ | 14:01 |
| nikhil | Welcome everyone | 14:01 |
| nikhil | We have a short agenda today but this meeting is important at the advent of Mitaka planning | 14:02 |
| nikhil | So, let's discuss some of those items towards the end of the meeting | 14:02 |
| nikhil | and thanks for flaper87 for already putting Nova items on the list | 14:02 |
| nikhil | Let's get startec | 14:02 |
| nikhil | #topic updates | 14:03 |
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| nikhil | #info artifacts updates | 14:03 |
| jcook | o/ | 14:03 |
| ativelkov | so, we've got all the blockers merged as fast-track patches | 14:03 |
| ativelkov | thanks to all who helped reviewing them | 14:03 |
| mfedosin | that's cool | 14:03 |
| abhishekk | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fastTrackPatches | 14:04 |
| ativelkov | Murano project, as our first (hopefully not the last) adopter has confirmed artifacts are working properly for them | 14:04 |
| nikhil | :) | 14:04 |
| ativelkov | The feature is enabled as experimental (for obvious reasons) in Murano-Liberty, all are loking forward for our API to be stable in M | 14:04 |
| nikhil | ++ | 14:04 |
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| nikhil | Mitaka is going to be API centric! | 14:05 |
| jokke_ | ativelkov: \o ltns ... good to hear that it actually works ofr them :) | 14:05 |
| mfedosin | we're still waiting for you article Alex ;) | 14:05 |
| mfedosin | your | 14:05 |
| ativelkov | Right now I am documenting artifact-related changes for Murano. When finished, will start working on the big "About-v3" article for openstack Wiki | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | ativelkov: ++ on documentation | 14:06 |
| nikhil | So, I think we need to discuss some of the use cases that API v2 does not solve and put a Artifacts perspective into the domain | 14:06 |
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| flaper87 | ativelkov: it'd be great to go slow about the V3 article | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | as in, I'd like us to be very careful on not creating more confusion around glance | 14:06 |
| nikhil | There are some compelling use cases for the same however, the tradeoffs exist and having those out there would help | 14:06 |
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| ativelkov | flaper87: the idea behind the article is to get some community awareness before the talk at the summit | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | what talk ? | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:07 |
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| nikhil | one thing that everyone seems to be disjoint on is the reason for existence of certain features, so idea behind Artifacts would be great to have documented and get inputs from interested developers, operators, etc. | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | Let me put my concern in other words: We're trying to solve a huge confusion and mess with v2 right now | 14:08 |
| nikhil | That's mostly true | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | I'd like us to be careful on how we sell (or if we should at all do that in this phase) the artifacts work | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | I'm not saying to ignore it and to not write things down. I'm just saying lets be careful with the wording. I'm happy to provide feedback on the article | 14:09 |
| ativelkov | we have an approved talk on the main summit conference on the evolution of Glance APIs | 14:09 |
| nikhil | We are trying to solve the problem os interoperability around a ecosystem development around OpenStack "Images" | 14:09 |
| ativelkov | "we" stands for nikhil and me :) | 14:09 |
| dhellmann | yes, I think the rest of the community is going to be somewhat upset if the emphasis for this summit is about a new API when the existing one is not seen as finished | 14:09 |
| nikhil | And we are targeting our v2 Images API for that standard given it works out for all the critical use cases | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: sure, and the confusion on whether you need tasks to create images or not. Interoperability is just the technical side of it | 14:10 |
| ativelkov | flaper87: sure, the wording should be very careful. The idea is to explain things, not to make them more confusing :) | 14:10 |
| nikhil | ativelkov ++ | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | ativelkov ++ | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | I'm just asking for us to be more careful on that side, especially because we're talking about an experimenting API | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | I'm not saying it shouldn't be written down. | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | that's all | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | yes, but it's been in the works for 3 cycles | 14:11 |
| dhellmann | ativelkov: I would resist the urge to make schedule predictions, for example | 14:11 |
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| ativelkov | dhellmann: noted | 14:11 |
| dhellmann | rosmaita: yes, many folks outside of the project think it is a distraction from finishing the image API work. I don't know if that's true, I'm reporting the perception. | 14:11 |
| nikhil | Schedule predictions seem tentative anyways. It about use cases and addressing them right for a long term support, dhellmann | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: again, "in the works" != stable or productoin ready | 14:12 |
| nikhil | and that being the reason for this talk | 14:12 |
| dhellmann | nikhil: sure, but if someone leaves that talk with the impression that there is yet another API coming "soon" that will further damage the image of the project as being unable to complete its commitments | 14:12 |
| ativelkov | If we do not explain things, we may be asked the questions of different kinds, i.e. why the artifacts are not part of v2 if it isgoing to be included in DerCore. That's why we need all that explanations in some centralized place | 14:12 |
| dhellmann | so, congratulations on getting the talk, and I hope it goes well, but consider the broader impact as you write it | 14:13 |
| dhellmann | ativelkov: yep, that's a good point to cover | 14:13 |
| flaper87 | dhellmann: ++ that's what I was trying to pass as a message. Thanks! | 14:13 |
| nikhil | yeah, and the reason for the talk is to reduce that confusion | 14:13 |
| nikhil | get the use cases correct and everyone on the same page | 14:13 |
| ativelkov | Also, the talk is not just aoput the v3: it is exactly about the evolution of Glance API: from V1 to v@ and then eventually to v3 | 14:14 |
| ativelkov | v2* :) | 14:14 |
| nikhil | not distract people into thinking incorrectly | 14:14 |
| nikhil | ativelkov yeah, thanks for that explicit clarification. seemed important and missed | 14:14 |
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| flaper87 | ativelkov: I'd love to provide feedback on the article, if you don't mind. | 14:15 |
| ativelkov | flaper87: sure! | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | ativelkov: thanks! | 14:15 |
| nikhil | #info drivers meetings updates | 14:16 |
| nikhil | The ova lite feature was not able to get merge in Liberty and the dev team has been notified to target it for M | 14:17 |
| nikhil | We had a discussion around the concept of "Image", v2 APIs and the confusion | 14:18 |
| nikhil | If you have feedback, this etherpad is where the collab is happening | 14:18 |
| nikhil | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-upload-mechanism-reloaded | 14:18 |
| jokke_ | hopefully they don't give up and wake again at the end of the M cycle ... I think it's really close, we just ran out of time | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | I'd also like to mention that we're planning to have a quick video call on Tuesday at 15 UTC. Everyone interested is invited! | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | please, ping me and I'll provide details | 14:19 |
| nikhil | malini wants it in early M and we should give them early feedback as a courtesy | 14:19 |
| dhellmann | flaper87: I'd like to be on that call | 14:19 |
| nikhil | I had pushed for it (think) in L2 | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | dhellmann: you got it! | 14:19 |
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| nikhil | and the feedback had started coming in early Sept so just as a courtesy -- I would like one of the first feedback on this spec (besides other things of course) | 14:20 |
| jokke_ | flaper87: was really nice of you to pick time outside of your options that suites really badly :P | 14:20 |
| nikhil | yeah, thanks for considering the round globe | 14:21 |
| flaper87 | Anything that helps making Glance better and finding a solution for this issue :) | 14:21 |
| nikhil | ++ | 14:21 |
| nikhil | #topic Was there a reason checksum and size were left out of v2 server? (bunting) | 14:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Was there a reason checksum and size were left out of v2 server? (bunting) (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:22 | |
| nikhil | bunting can you please elaborate on the issue? | 14:22 |
| bunting | Yeah, i noticed this whilst working on osc and was wondering why this changed? | 14:22 |
| bunting | For example checksum was in my opinion a useful feature | 14:23 |
| bunting | For data integrity | 14:23 |
| nikhil | wait, checksum on the image exists | 14:23 |
| nikhil | it's a base prop | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | but not exposed in the compute api | 14:23 |
| jokke_ | yes the checksum gets calculated | 14:23 |
| nikhil | (immutable one for that matter) | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | i think bunting is talking about nova api | 14:23 |
| nikhil | oh | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | i think? | 14:23 |
| nikhil | bunting ? | 14:24 |
| bunting | I mean when you create a image you can't supply a checksum to have the image deleted if its diffrent | 14:24 |
| dhellmann | bunting: are you using the nova proxy to glance, or talking to glance directly? | 14:24 |
| bunting | It seems this functallity is gone | 14:24 |
| bunting | glance directly | 14:24 |
| nikhil | user level validation | 14:24 |
| jokke_ | afaik nova does not support v2 | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: see the next topic for this meeting | 14:25 |
| flaper87 | ;P | 14:25 |
| flaper87 | jokes apart | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | bunting: could you please explain your use case? | 14:25 |
| bunting | nikhil: Oh so its moved so the user manually checks it now? | 14:25 |
| dhellmann | bunting: so you're saying you used to be able to upload an image with a given name and if there was already an image with that name but a different checksum then the old image would be removed and replaced? | 14:25 |
| bunting | So if you do glance image-create --checsum hash - if it does not meat hash the image would automatically be deleted | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | dhellmann: no, if thew checksum provided with image create didn't match the checksum calculated in the server the image used to be killed | 14:26 |
| flaper87 | I think bunting is saying that it was possible to upload the image + checksum in v1 and it'd check whether the uploaded checksum was the same as the uploaded image's | 14:26 |
| dhellmann | jokke_: ah | 14:26 |
| bunting | flaper87: Yeah | 14:26 |
| dhellmann | ok, thanks for clarifying -- I'm still learning about the glance features :-) | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | on v2 it changed that we don't take checksum as input but we just calculate the checksum in the server, if the returned checksum does not match what the user has it's user's discreet to decide what happens next | 14:27 |
| nikhil | bunting what is the response while uploading w/ checksum? | 14:27 |
| nikhil | jokke_ correct | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | that sounds like a python-glanceclient feature | 14:27 |
| nikhil | I'm a bit worried on the return response | 14:27 |
| nikhil | as it's not disallowed afaict | 14:27 |
| flaper87 | I think that's useful too and, tbh. | 14:27 |
| jokke_ | nikhil: iirc it's forbidden | 14:28 |
| bunting | flaper87: Yeah to me it sounds like a useful feature | 14:28 |
| bunting | to have it automatically killed | 14:28 |
| flaper87 | Leaving that to glanceclient means that you have to create the image, upload the whole thing, check if the checksum is the same that you had, and then delete the image if it doesn't match | 14:28 |
| jokke_ | valueated from same list as you would try to specify owner manually | 14:28 |
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| bpoulos | bunting: that sounds a little bit like what is currently available with signature verification | 14:28 |
| nikhil | https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/api/v2/images.py#L375 | 14:28 |
| flaper87 | it seems a bit of a waste considering that we already calculate the checksum on the server. | 14:28 |
| nikhil | jokke_ ^ | 14:28 |
| bpoulos | you can provide a signature of your checksum, and it will be killed if the signature doesn't validate | 14:29 |
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| bunting | Ah so its now moved to signature? | 14:29 |
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| flaper87 | bpoulos: right! | 14:29 |
| bpoulos | i think you could use the signature for what you're wanting | 14:29 |
| nikhil | it's not actually moved | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | it just accidentally happens to be there too | 14:30 |
| nikhil | rather a more advanced way of image validation exists | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:30 |
| bunting | nikhil: Okay | 14:30 |
| jokke_ | For jury reading the logs, please forget anything said on this topic to avoid confusion around the API :P | 14:30 |
| jcook | clarifying question: the current behavior is to pass in signature ahead of upload, correct? | 14:30 |
| bpoulos | correct | 14:31 |
| nikhil | yep | 14:31 |
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| bpoulos | if you pass it after, it doesn't validate | 14:31 |
| jcook | therefore, we can use this for immutability and retries | 14:31 |
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| nikhil | jcook correct | 14:31 |
| flaper87 | yup | 14:31 |
| jcook | if you upload, it fails, you upload again and sig doesn't match original sig, fail | 14:31 |
| nikhil | I think we are trying to narrow down on the immutability clause on just "active" | 14:31 |
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| flaper87 | but it requires to have signature configured and everythin | 14:31 |
| jcook | perfect, I'll update the upload retry spec | 14:31 |
| jokke_ | jcook: nope ... you cannot reupload on killed image ;P | 14:31 |
| nikhil | however, we first need to contain the race conditions to avoid major bugs | 14:32 |
| jcook | jokke_: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206250/ | 14:32 |
| nikhil | jokke_ ^ | 14:32 |
| jcook | jokke_: not yet :) | 14:32 |
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| nikhil | jcook I think we sort of need a set_and_test on that retry thing | 14:32 |
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| jcook | as in upload and verify it is right thing? | 14:33 |
| nikhil | better journaling (in other words) | 14:33 |
| nikhil | keep the upload, deletes (cleanup), verification non-racy | 14:33 |
| jcook | I was thinking send signature first attempt, retry as much as you want (to inifinity and beyond), it won't succeed until original sig matches and you cannot change sig | 14:33 |
| jcook | so your upload could succeed, but it would fail because the original sig you sent in very first attempt did not match | 14:34 |
| jcook | the sig is the immutable bit, and it won't go active until sig matches | 14:34 |
| jcook | at that point a retry is a NOP not a fail | 14:34 |
| jcook | sig already matches, don't bother doing anything | 14:34 |
| nikhil | sounds good, we can discuss impl details on this later on the spec. | 14:35 |
| nikhil | I guess the validation point that jcook and bunting want (for different reasons) is covered here? | 14:36 |
| jcook | +1 | 14:36 |
| bunting | nikhil: covered for me | 14:36 |
| nikhil | thanks! | 14:36 |
| nikhil | moving on. (For now) | 14:36 |
| nikhil | #topic Nova migration from Glance v1 -> v2 (flaper87) | 14:37 |
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| flaper87 | o/ | 14:37 |
| mfedosin | oh yeah | 14:37 |
| flaper87 | I don't have much to say other than give some updates on the current status and plan: | 14:37 |
| jokke_ | this sounds like familiar topic ... have I heard about this before? | 14:37 |
| flaper87 | I've been talking with some folks trying to identify who can work on this and help moving this effort forward | 14:37 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: has volunteered to help with code from the Glance team, whereas sudipto from nova, has raised his hand to help with code as well | 14:38 |
| flaper87 | This is great! | 14:38 |
| flaper87 | Thanks to both | 14:38 |
| mfedosin | yup | 14:38 |
| flaper87 | On the other hand | 14:38 |
| dhellmann | great! | 14:38 |
| flaper87 | I'll be helping with the spec and I'll be working with jaypipes on it | 14:38 |
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| mfedosin | so, my goal for next month is to test Flavio's patch, split it in several small patches and help in reviewing the spec | 14:38 |
| jokke_ | flaper87: I'd like to get pause here | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | I think it's extremely important to get the API mess with defcore ironed out before we move forward with Nova | 14:39 |
| dhellmann | the nova work is blocking defcore, too | 14:39 |
| dhellmann | I think the image create and nova work can happen in parallel | 14:40 |
| hemanthm | jcook ^ | 14:40 |
| jokke_ | Last thing I want to see is that we get Nova migrated to current state and with defcore decide to bring up some new standard upload process | 14:40 |
| * jcook reading back | 14:40 | |
| jokke_ | dhellmann: work itself yes, but I think the main principles needs to be agreed first | 14:40 |
| jcook | ah the upgrade to v2 or glance seam in nova spec stuff | 14:41 |
| dhellmann | jokke_: what parts of glance's v2 api that nova is consuming do you expect to change? | 14:41 |
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| nikhil | So, one very important thing | 14:42 |
| dhellmann | I'm worried that, given the amount of time it tends to take to get work like this done in nova, if it is not started soon it will not be finished this cycle | 14:42 |
| jokke_ | dhellmann: iiuc the biggest questionmark currently is how the images will be brought into glance in future. Is it the images API upload as it stands now, do we need to change that or bring something new at the side to provide the needed or will it go via some task interface | 14:42 |
| nikhil | we should get a new spec in Nova approved possibly prior to summit | 14:42 |
| flaper87 | sorry, got distracted. Here now. | 14:42 |
| flaper87 | so | 14:42 |
| jcook | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194303/ | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | Back to the spec | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | As I mentioned before, I'm working on the spec now | 14:43 |
| jcook | that's my spec on the matter, and I think I spent all my wind on it there ^ I'll try to update the spec today | 14:43 |
| dhellmann | jokke_: so start the nova work with the parts of the API not related to image upload | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | and I'll have something ready for review soon | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | I'll work with jaypipes and obviously, it'll need feedback from everyone | 14:43 |
| nikhil | dhellmann I am not worried about that as I have been discussing with Nova how to adjust that in one cycle. there are many efforts around images in nova and it would be good to get this one bit done asap | 14:44 |
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| nikhil | flaper87 thank you. One thing Nova folks wanted is to get first and early feedback from GLance community | 14:44 |
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| nikhil | we should avoid what happened in Liberty | 14:45 |
| flaper87 | Yes! I think we should do that asap, which is why I've been working on the spec today | 14:45 |
| flaper87 | I hope to have something ready soon for review by y'all | 14:45 |
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| nikhil | Also, one thing I have as input is that people interested in images stuff in Nova, please attend their meeting and help with this inter-project communication work | 14:46 |
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| nikhil | the meetings can be at odd hours due to TZ adjustments | 14:46 |
| flaper87 | that'd be useful too. I can't commit to that as the nova meetings seem to happen in weird TZs for me but we can figure that out | 14:46 |
| flaper87 | I'll be syncing back from/to nova | 14:47 |
| flaper87 | so, expect updates from me on this side | 14:47 |
| nikhil | help from around the world will be appreciated, but then again it would be best to have one or two dedicated images liaisons for M. | 14:47 |
| nikhil | flaper87 sounds good! | 14:47 |
| nikhil | with a little over 12 mins, do we have anything more on this topic? | 14:48 |
| flaper87 | I think we have enough people to get this going. More are totally welcome but with this small sub-group, we should be ok to move this forward | 14:48 |
| * flaper87 stfu | 14:48 | |
| nikhil | ++ | 14:48 |
| nikhil | #topic winding up Liberty RCs | 14:48 |
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| flaper87 | nikhil: I bet that's re "Stfu" | 14:48 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:48 |
| nikhil | #info RC1 coming, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223633/ example config files ( jokke_ ) | 14:48 |
| nikhil | flaper87 lol, no :P | 14:48 |
| flaper87 | Is that the only thing blocking RC1 ? | 14:49 |
| flaper87 | I'll get to it right after the meeting | 14:49 |
| jokke_ | bit hand to sabari who took time yesterday to review the change and spotted some inconsistencies ... should be all good now | 14:49 |
| * flaper87 hopes it is | 14:49 | |
| flaper87 | jokke_: ++ | 14:49 |
| flaper87 | sabari ++ | 14:50 |
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| dhellmann | jokke_: does glance use the config sample generator from oslo.config? | 14:50 |
| nikhil | I was hoping this one gets a pass of testing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221307/ | 14:50 |
| jokke_ | dhellmann: it's not automated | 14:50 |
| flaper87 | dhellmann: yes | 14:50 |
| flaper87 | but not automated | 14:50 |
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| jokke_ | dhellmann: those are pulled from it and some adjustments done so we got all the sections in we need | 14:51 |
| dhellmann | jokke_: ok, maybe we can discuss what adjustments were needed offline so we can make this easier for you in the future | 14:51 |
| jokke_ | dhellmann: sounds good ... this is actually the major move to the autogenerated configs ... next round should be lots easier | 14:52 |
| dhellmann | k | 14:52 |
| nikhil | I think we need more awareness around adding configs in general | 14:52 |
| nikhil | (plus review) | 14:53 |
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| jokke_ | nikhil: do we have anything else we're waiting for RC1? | 14:53 |
| nikhil | #info if RC1 goes out this week, I have asked for a possible RC2 next week | 14:53 |
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| nikhil | jokke_ no blockers, but good to get this in RC1 for some thorough testing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221307/ | 14:54 |
| nikhil | RC1 most likely will be cut right after the config refresh | 14:54 |
| ativelkov | Are we going to make proposed/liberty branch with the release of RC1? | 14:55 |
| jokke_ | ok, so please folks lets get the reviews going ... it's beast | 14:55 |
| nikhil | dhellmann is our rel-mgmt expert :) please educate us on the timeline for proposed/liberty branch | 14:55 |
| jokke_ | ativelkov: it's gonna be stable/liberty treated like proposed/ until final release iiuc | 14:55 |
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| jokke_ | dhellmann: can correct me if I'm wrong | 14:56 |
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| dhellmann | yes, that's right, we'll create the stable/liberty branch with special acls that lock it down tightly until the release is finished, and then change the acls so it acts like a normal stable branch | 14:56 |
| nikhil | we can continue this in open discussion, just to give some time for last minute awareness topics | 14:57 |
| nikhil | oops | 14:57 |
| nikhil | #topic open discussion | 14:57 |
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| nikhil | I wanted to put this out there for more awareness -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206431/ | 14:57 |
| bunting | I am happy to work on osc, bty following our disscussion about it last week | 14:58 |
| flaper87 | I don't recall if we have an etherpad to collect topics for Mitaka already | 14:58 |
| nikhil | just to help educate Nova team if that's the best way of going about it | 14:58 |
| flaper87 | If we don't, it'd be great to create one. If we do, please, remember to add things there! | 14:58 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:58 |
| flaper87 | I seem to recall there being one | 14:58 |
| jokke_ | nikhil: I really liked what they are planning there and it indeed makes way more sense to do in Nova than in Glance | 14:59 |
| nikhil | jokke_ agreed | 14:59 |
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| nikhil | I am trying to find that etherpad, will link if offline if exists | 15:00 |
| nikhil | But we are out of time now | 15:00 |
| nikhil | THanks all for joining! | 15:00 |
| nikhil | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 24 15:00:57 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2015/glance.2015-09-24-14.00.html | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2015/glance.2015-09-24-14.00.txt | 15:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2015/glance.2015-09-24-14.00.log.html | 15:01 |
| TravT | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 24 15:01:12 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is TravT. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search' | 15:01 |
| lakshmiS | o/ | 15:01 |
| sjmc7 | hey | 15:01 |
| TravT | hey-o | 15:01 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 15:02 |
| TravT | nikhil: still here? | 15:02 |
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| TravT | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda | 15:02 |
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| TravT | we'll wait just a moment for people to stream in... | 15:03 |
| TravT | rosmaita: i have a patch that perhaps you could look at | 15:03 |
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| rosmaita | TravT: sure | 15:03 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224411/ | 15:03 |
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| TravT | ok, we'll get going. | 15:04 |
| TravT | basically today, we just need to run through the rc1 status | 15:04 |
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| TravT | #topic rc status | 15:04 |
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| TravT | #link https://launchpad.net/searchlight/+milestone/liberty-rc1 | 15:04 |
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| TravT | looking like we are in good shape. | 15:05 |
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| TravT | lakshmi: sjmc7: what's going on with the function tests? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/+spec/set-up-functional-tests | 15:06 |
| nikhil | TravT here now | 15:06 |
| sjmc7 | i need to figure out why they don't work for me | 15:06 |
| TravT | hi nikhil! | 15:06 |
| sjmc7 | zuul's not running them, best i can make out | 15:06 |
| lakshmiS | TravT: it will be nice if someone else also tests them | 15:06 |
| nikhil | hi | 15:06 |
| nikhil | TravT | 15:06 |
| lakshmiS | It works for me but not for sjmc7 | 15:06 |
| TravT | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217580/ | 15:07 |
| TravT | so sjmc7, what do you mean zuul isn't running them? | 15:07 |
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| lakshmiS | es is not available | 15:08 |
| lakshmiS | on zuul tests | 15:08 |
| sjmc7 | http://logs.openstack.org/80/217580/10/check/gate-searchlight-python27/de23b19/testr_results.html.gz | 15:08 |
| sjmc7 | shows it skipping 28 of them | 15:08 |
| TravT | ok... | 15:08 |
| TravT | and they also don't work for you locally? | 15:08 |
| sjmc7 | i'm ok getting that enabled later, but yeah, the metadef ones fail for me | 15:09 |
| sjmc7 | looks like all the scripted ones | 15:09 |
| sjmc7 | i didn't get a chance to dig in | 15:09 |
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| TravT | which ES do you guys have locally? | 15:09 |
| lakshmiS | how about atleast some of them on this meeting quickly test that in background | 15:09 |
| sjmc7 | 1.7. i will run it in the debugger later | 15:10 |
| TravT | ok, i have what devstack installs, which I think is 1.4.? | 15:10 |
| TravT | what do you have lakshmiS? | 15:10 |
| lakshmiS | 1.7.2 | 15:10 |
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| TravT | ok, i will try a run of them. | 15:11 |
| lakshmiS | thx | 15:12 |
| TravT | should they be running under py34? | 15:12 |
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| sjmc7 | both | 15:12 |
| lakshmiS | only skips if es is not available | 15:12 |
| TravT | do they work on one, but not the other for you sjmc7? | 15:13 |
| sjmc7 | only tested py27. i can try 34, though i would be flabbergasted if there was a difference | 15:13 |
| TravT | :) | 15:14 |
| lakshmiS | yeah i would doubt | 15:14 |
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| TravT | ok, i've got to py34 started up in the background | 15:15 |
| TravT | will see what happens | 15:15 |
| sjmc7 | running it now. i'll take a closer look after this | 15:15 |
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| TravT | skips=28 | 15:15 |
| sjmc7 | export PATH=$PATH:<path to elasticsearch> | 15:16 |
| TravT | include bin | 15:17 |
| TravT | ? | 15:17 |
| TravT | or just base path? | 15:17 |
| sjmc7 | bin | 15:17 |
| TravT | ran 122 tests | 15:19 |
| TravT | don't see any skips | 15:19 |
| TravT | py34: commands succeeded | 15:19 |
| lakshmiS | how many tests were there when it skipped? | 15:19 |
| TravT | i knew you'd ask that | 15:20 |
| sjmc7 | 94 | 15:20 |
| TravT | Here's run with exporting path: Ran 122 tests in 24.367s (+24.048s) PASSED (id=5) | 15:20 |
| sjmc7 | ok. then it's something mysterious in my setup | 15:20 |
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| sjmc7 | i'll try and figure it out then; if i can't by EOD i'm ok approving this in the absence of any other failures | 15:21 |
| TravT | Ran 122 (+31) tests in 0.321s (-0.002s) | 15:21 |
| TravT | PASSED (id=4, skips=28) | 15:21 |
| TravT | Without exported path^ | 15:21 |
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| TravT | ok, so, to conclude, it appears sjmc7 has an environmental issue | 15:22 |
| sjmc7 | small sample size! :) | 15:22 |
| lakshmiS | i will also try in a new setup and comment on patch if it doesnt work | 15:23 |
| TravT | ok | 15:23 |
| TravT | lakshmiS: | 15:23 |
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| TravT | are any of the other patches we have up for review going to break these tests? | 15:23 |
| lakshmiS | need to figure out how to install es on zuul environment | 15:23 |
| TravT | is there a reason to hold off on more merges until functional tests? | 15:23 |
| TravT | just wondering if we need to do any rebasing here | 15:23 |
| TravT | setting up dependencies | 15:24 |
| TravT | although i guess zuul isn't really testing them right now | 15:24 |
| sjmc7 | don't think so. i would like to see why it won't work for me (on two systems) though. i'll try to do so this morning | 15:25 |
| TravT | #action lakshmiS figure out how to make them run in zuul | 15:25 |
| lakshmiS | :) | 15:25 |
| TravT | ok, so then on to the rest of these | 15:25 |
| TravT | https://launchpad.net/searchlight/+milestone/liberty-rc1 | 15:25 |
| TravT | i bumped Use keystone.session.Session for clients to Essential | 15:26 |
| TravT | because with leaving my system running for long periods I see that listener loses its connection to nova | 15:26 |
| TravT | and i have to restart the listener | 15:26 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, it's helpful. i'll retest that, too. i think it needs a documentation update | 15:26 |
| TravT | apparently the patch fixes that | 15:26 |
| sjmc7 | it should do, yes | 15:26 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219271/ | 15:27 |
| lakshmiS | will take a look | 15:27 |
| TravT | ekarlso usually isn't available at this time of day, so we'll try to catch him later. | 15:27 |
| TravT | next Add a pattern for specifying pr plugin configuration | 15:28 |
| TravT | this is medium. | 15:28 |
| TravT | do we believe this is right priority? | 15:28 |
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| TravT | if so, then we probably need to set a deadline for it merging or for bumping from RC | 15:28 |
| sjmc7 | it's useful but not necessarily essential for this release | 15:29 |
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| lakshmiS | i think medium sounds right since this is good to have feature | 15:29 |
| sjmc7 | it's more to assist deployers than anything | 15:29 |
| TravT | i'm going to propose that EOD wednesday is our deadline for merges. | 15:30 |
| TravT | next wednesday | 15:30 |
| sjmc7 | ok | 15:30 |
| TravT | then thursday / friday we work on getting the release done | 15:30 |
| TravT | nikhil: rosmaita: lakshmiS: what do you think? | 15:31 |
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| lakshmiS | will that be RC1 and more later if required? | 15:31 |
| nikhil | the notification patch is up for review | 15:31 |
| nikhil | I am waitinf for one more +2 | 15:31 |
| sjmc7 | that'd be good | 15:32 |
| TravT | nikhil: what are you doing for glance deadlines? | 15:32 |
| nikhil | bt it may be this or next week | 15:32 |
| nikhil | if it gets in by today then in RC1 | 15:32 |
| nikhil | else RC2 is possibly planned for next week | 15:32 |
| nikhil | please ping hemanth for the other review | 15:32 |
| nikhil | jokke was going to help but not sure how much time he has atm | 15:33 |
| lakshmiS | yeah i did. will ping again | 15:33 |
| TravT | lakshmiS: yes, I think next wednesday is RC1 deadline. After that we should only look at high / critical bugs. | 15:33 |
| TravT | nikhil: thanks for helping to push that through | 15:34 |
| TravT | lakshmiS: but ideally, would like to not have to do a RC2 | 15:34 |
| nikhil | np! | 15:34 |
| TravT | let's vote on that in next Thursday's meeting. | 15:34 |
| nikhil | yes please | 15:34 |
| lakshmiS | TravT: ok | 15:34 |
| TravT | so back to: https://launchpad.net/searchlight/+milestone/liberty-rc1 | 15:35 |
| TravT | next up is faceting support (https://review.openstack.org/222388) | 15:35 |
| TravT | I see you +2'd it lakshmi | 15:35 |
| TravT | I have one final query that I'm trying out | 15:35 |
| TravT | run through designate, images, metadefs, and most of nova | 15:36 |
| TravT | but i'm not getting results from a nova filter query... which I think is my problem | 15:36 |
| TravT | just ran out of time before this meeting started | 15:36 |
| lakshmiS | ok | 15:36 |
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| TravT | ok, on to bugs | 15:36 |
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| TravT | 5 in progress | 15:37 |
| TravT | 1 new that we can talk through momentarily | 15:37 |
| TravT | but before we do that... are there any bugs missing? | 15:37 |
| TravT | that we should target for rc1 | 15:37 |
| TravT | https://bugs.launchpad.net/searchlight | 15:37 |
| sjmc7 | there was another config one that i filed i think | 15:38 |
| sjmc7 | to allow separate sections for the api and listener | 15:38 |
| sjmc7 | mainly because otherwise, deploying with a log file is painful | 15:38 |
| TravT | ok, so do you think this is high / medium? | 15:38 |
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| sjmc7 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/searchlight/+bug/1493975 | 15:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1493975 in OpenStack Search (Searchlight) "Need separate config sections for api and listener" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Steve McLellan (sjmc7) | 15:39 |
| sjmc7 | mm... probably medium, though it will be a pain for deployers | 15:39 |
| sjmc7 | it's also probably not a big change | 15:39 |
| TravT | well, we can target for rc1, but reviews should be done in accordance with priority | 15:39 |
| sjmc7 | yep | 15:40 |
| TravT | we'll re-evaluate it for rc1 next thursday | 15:40 |
| TravT | there is one other bug i filed | 15:40 |
| TravT | https://bugs.launchpad.net/searchlight/+bug/1497122 | 15:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1497122 in OpenStack Search (Searchlight) "Search results incomplete during full indexing." [Undecided,New] | 15:40 |
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| TravT | i don't think on its own it is critical | 15:41 |
| sjmc7 | i'd agree - i think we can roll that into deployment hardening in mitaka | 15:42 |
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| TravT | ok. let's not pull it into liberty then. | 15:42 |
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| TravT | lakshmiS: https://bugs.launchpad.net/searchlight/+bug/1492579 | 15:43 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1492579 in OpenStack Search (Searchlight) "Property mapping for Metadef properties regressed to "name" from "property"" [Undecided,New] | 15:43 |
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| TravT | is that one still a problem or did your recent metadef patch address it? | 15:44 |
| lakshmiS | its still a bug | 15:44 |
| lakshmiS | i will put a patch up | 15:44 |
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| TravT | ok, i think it'll take me several minutes to actually understand it | 15:44 |
| TravT | so will look later. | 15:45 |
| TravT | but, what priority should we put on this? | 15:45 |
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| lakshmiS | it should be high since it fails the current code during listener updates | 15:45 |
| TravT | ok, i updated that bug | 15:45 |
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| TravT | there is one other bug i filed yesterday as a medium, which makes it unlikely for this release. | 15:46 |
| TravT | however the change is simple | 15:46 |
| TravT | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1498995 | 15:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1498995 in OpenStack Search (Searchlight) "Use doc_values in mappings" [Medium,New] | 15:46 |
| sjmc7 | i'm not so sure about this one | 15:47 |
| TravT | i went to an elasticsearch webinar yesterday on scaling. | 15:47 |
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| TravT | and they spent nearly 20 minutes of it extolling the virtues of making this change | 15:47 |
| TravT | saying it is so important that they just do it by default starting in 2.0 elasticsearch | 15:47 |
| sjmc7 | yes.. but we're not scaling :) | 15:47 |
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| sjmc7 | i guess there's probably no harm doing it | 15:48 |
| TravT | sjmc7: other than it probably not being very impactful at this point, do you have other concerns with it? | 15:48 |
| sjmc7 | i doubt it will benefit us | 15:48 |
| TravT | probably, but the guy on the call said it is the very first thing he checks on any deployment. | 15:49 |
| TravT | i agree it isn't critical to us right now, which is why i set as medium. | 15:50 |
| sjmc7 | we're not a typical deployment :) the others i've used/seen typically are storing many tens of millions of text documents | 15:50 |
| sjmc7 | what i think maybe is more an issue is what we analyze/don't analyze | 15:50 |
| TravT | i think swift will be when this would be more likely to be needed | 15:50 |
| TravT | yes i agree the way we analyze fields is definitely a pain point right now | 15:50 |
| TravT | particularly the name field... | 15:51 |
| sjmc7 | ok. i've no real problem doing it - but i'd rather not do it in the sorting patch | 15:51 |
| sjmc7 | yes, the name one's the difficult one | 15:51 |
| sjmc7 | for nova i stored it not_analyzed to allow exact matching | 15:51 |
| TravT | ok, i can remove -1 on sorting over that. | 15:51 |
| TravT | i have found the searching on name field from my horizon panel to be frustrating. | 15:52 |
| sjmc7 | trouble then is that a search for "first" won't return "first instance" | 15:52 |
| sjmc7 | yeah.. for the prototype we were doing a wildcard search | 15:52 |
| sjmc7 | we will now be storing both | 15:52 |
| sjmc7 | but that won't help with name:something | 15:53 |
| TravT | well, with the sorting patch, it should help | 15:53 |
| TravT | the base field will be anyalyzed and raw field not analyzed, right? | 15:54 |
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| sjmc7 | depends how you set it up | 15:54 |
| TravT | https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/guide/current/multi-fields.html | 15:54 |
| sjmc7 | but still the problem remains for a field search | 15:54 |
| TravT | FYI nikhil: rosmaita: sigmavirus24_awa: david-lyle: I put up a horizon search panel patch | 15:55 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227036/ | 15:55 |
| TravT | so you can actually search against searchlight from horizon | 15:55 |
| TravT | it is driving some of the items we are discussing right now. | 15:56 |
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| nikhil | \o/ | 15:56 |
| sjmc7 | yeay | 15:56 |
| TravT | well sjmc7: i'll go back through sorting. | 15:57 |
| TravT | nikhil: i know you are super busy, but if you have a chance to look through the function tests patch as well. | 15:57 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/217580 | 15:58 |
| nikhil | surely! kept the tab open! | 15:58 |
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| nikhil | thanks!! | 15:58 |
| TravT | Well, great work everybody. | 15:58 |
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| TravT | We are really close | 15:58 |
| TravT | I'll spend all day on reviews, but also there is still a horizon master bug affecting the search panel that I'm working on as well. | 15:59 |
| TravT | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/searchlight,n,z | 15:59 |
| TravT | We're out of time for today! | 15:59 |
| TravT | see you in the room | 16:00 |
| TravT | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 24 16:00:10 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2015/openstack_search.2015-09-24-15.01.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2015/openstack_search.2015-09-24-15.01.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2015/openstack_search.2015-09-24-15.01.log.html | 16:00 |
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| LouisF | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 24 17:01:07 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is LouisF. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining' | 17:01 |
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| s3wong | hello | 17:01 |
| johnsom | o/ | 17:01 |
| Swami | hi | 17:01 |
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| LouisF | hi all | 17:01 |
| pcarver | hi | 17:01 |
| vikram_ | hi | 17:01 |
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| LouisF | cathy is on a business trip, I will chair today | 17:02 |
| mohankumar_ | Hi | 17:02 |
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| pcarver | I put together an agenda wiki page | 17:02 |
| pcarver | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ServiceFunctionChainingMeeting | 17:02 |
| s3wong | LouisF: yes, she also mentioned it last time as well as sending out an email on ML | 17:02 |
| LouisF | pcarver: thanks | 17:02 |
| pcarver | I think that'll be a good place for people to put reminders of things to discuss that occur to them between meetings | 17:02 |
| LouisF | pcarver: agree | 17:03 |
| vikram_ | +1 | 17:03 |
| mohankumar_ | +1 | 17:04 |
| LouisF | I have split https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207251 into separate patches | 17:04 |
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| LouisF | See https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ServiceFunctionChainingMeeting | 17:05 |
| LouisF | there are 6 patches | 17:05 |
| davidlenwell | o/ | 17:05 |
| LouisF | vikram_: thanks for adding the list to the wiki | 17:06 |
| pcarver | Thanks Louis, that'll be much more convenient to review in chunks | 17:06 |
| vikram_ | LouisF: ;) | 17:06 |
| LouisF | i have made some updates to the patches based on vikram's comments and will continue to do so | 17:07 |
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| LouisF | please review and comment on these | 17:07 |
| pcarver | LouisF: question, are you running tox before uploading patches? I've noticed a lot of Jenkins -1s | 17:07 |
| pcarver | I'm wondering if Jenkins is catching issues that you could catch before uploading | 17:08 |
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| LouisF | pcarver: i have run tox on some but not all | 17:08 |
| pcarver | Zuul/Jenkins seems better this week, but last week was running upwards of 13 hours backlog, so it's best to try to avoid uploading patches that are going to get -1'd by automated tests | 17:09 |
| LouisF | vikram_: you mentioned adding dependencies in the patches to avoid unit test failures | 17:10 |
| vikram_ | LouisF: Yes, We need to do that for fixing failures. | 17:11 |
| LouisF | vikram_: do you mean using Depends-on: ? | 17:11 |
| Swami | LouisF: only if the dependent patch is related to the child patch. | 17:11 |
| s3wong | LouisF: yeah, I also noticed that for a chain of patches, none of them have DependsOn set, which looks a bit strange | 17:11 |
| LouisF | s3wong: will add that | 17:12 |
| vikram_ | LouisF: We need to merge the changes on top of the parent patch | 17:12 |
| vikram_ | LouisF: If you want I can do it | 17:12 |
| LouisF | vikram_: ok thx | 17:12 |
| Swami | LouisF: But for the unit test to pass you don't need "Depends on". This would be for merging. | 17:12 |
| mohan_ | Swami: +1 | 17:13 |
| vikram_ | Swami: +1, We need to merge on top of the parent | 17:13 |
| LouisF | vikram_: can you do the merge on top of the parent | 17:13 |
| vikram_ | LouisF: Yes... | 17:13 |
| LouisF | vikram_: thanks | 17:14 |
| vikram_ | LouisF: I will fix all the patches which needs dependencies | 17:14 |
| LouisF | vikram_: great! | 17:14 |
| vikram_ | LouisF: Did you raised patch for all the changes? | 17:15 |
| LouisF | vikram_: what do you mean exactly? | 17:15 |
| vikram_ | LouisF: All the changes are up for review now? | 17:16 |
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| vikram_ | LouisF: "https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207251" completely broken down? | 17:17 |
| vikram_ | LouisF: on something is left? | 17:17 |
| Swami | vikram_: The above shown link is broken | 17:17 |
| vikram_ | Swami: Ok.. | 17:18 |
| LouisF | vikram_: all of the patch has been split into the 6 sub-patches | 17:19 |
| vikram_ | LouisF: Ok.. | 17:19 |
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| LouisF | mohan_: you have updated the CLI patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210008 | 17:20 |
| mohan_ | yes | 17:20 |
| mohan_ | we spend most of the time this week in client cli testing with server changes and we posted tested client patch requsting everyone to review and share comments | 17:20 |
| s3wong | vikram_, LouisF: so we should abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207251? | 17:20 |
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| LouisF | s3wong: yes | 17:21 |
| vikram_ | +1 | 17:21 |
| Swami | +1 | 17:21 |
| LouisF | mohan_: thanks, everyone please review that | 17:21 |
| vikram_ | LouisF, All: It's working well .. We have tested :) | 17:22 |
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| LouisF | vikram_: glad to hear it | 17:22 |
| LouisF | pcarver: you made a comment on updating the spec so it is consistent wit the code | 17:23 |
| pcarver | LouisF: yes | 17:23 |
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| pcarver | We can discuss if there are opinions, but I favor updating the .rst in the same commit as the code where you discover you need to alter the spec | 17:24 |
| LouisF | pcarver: agree need to ensure consistency | 17:24 |
| pcarver | i.e., if you're writing Python and notice something wrong with the spec, fix the spec and add it to your same commit as the correct code you're writing | 17:24 |
| LouisF | +1 | 17:24 |
| pcarver | rather than creating a separate commit to correct the spec | 17:24 |
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| pcarver | If reviewers feel the spec is correct and the "correction" is wrong, that feedback can be handled in comments on the single review | 17:25 |
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| vikram_ | pcarver: make sense.. | 17:26 |
| vikram_ | pcarver: +1 | 17:26 |
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| mohan_ | pcarver: +1 , yes thts the best way | 17:26 |
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| vikram_ | mohan_: please ensure this for CLI changes | 17:27 |
| LouisF | #agreed if there is a needed spec change, update spec and code in same patch update | 17:28 |
| mohan_ | vikram: yes i have few updates , will do that | 17:28 |
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| LouisF | there was also an update to the Horizon patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197056/ | 17:29 |
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| LouisF | but it has some pep8 errors | 17:29 |
| mohan_ | LouisF: Horizon i am not updated any code .. | 17:30 |
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| mohan_ | we are in middle of integration testing with client code , we wanted to post patch after some basic testing with client and server cli code . | 17:30 |
| vikram_ | mohan_: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197056/ has a recent post | 17:30 |
| LouisF | mohan_: ps7 | 17:31 |
| vikram_ | mohan_: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197056/ can you please confirm why pep8 issues are there for thi | 17:31 |
| mohan_ | some commit messages get updated ! | 17:31 |
| vikram_ | mohan_: How is the horizon progress | 17:31 |
| vikram_ | mohan_: When you are planning to post the changes? | 17:31 |
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| mohan_ | some integration testing going on , planning next week tentatively | 17:32 |
| LouisF | mohan_: thanks | 17:32 |
| vikram_ | mohan_: Is the testing smooth or need any help? | 17:33 |
| mohan_ | vikram_ : as of now , no issues , will update if any help needs :) | 17:34 |
| LouisF | mohan_: good to hear | 17:34 |
| vikram_ | mohan_: great! | 17:35 |
| LouisF | any other items for discussion? | 17:35 |
| pcarver | I need a couple of quick reviews of a doc change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225254/ | 17:35 |
| pcarver | Just adding some introductory paragraphs now that the documentation is linked to from docs.openstack.org | 17:35 |
| pcarver | The other topic I have is on the Zuul/Jenkins config | 17:36 |
| pcarver | specifically, do we want Python 3 jobs to run? | 17:36 |
| LouisF | pcarver: go ahead | 17:36 |
| LouisF | pcarver: where exactly is that configured? | 17:37 |
| pcarver | And the other job that's not currently configured is translations. I assume it isn't the top priority, but we'll need to look into internationalization at some point | 17:37 |
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| pcarver | Refer to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221589/ | 17:38 |
| pcarver | That's the review where I added docs and PyPI publishing | 17:38 |
| pcarver | but if you take a look at http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html#configure-zuul-to-run-jobs you'll see an example zuul/layout.yaml snipped | 17:39 |
| pcarver | snippet that contains python3-jobs and translation-jobs | 17:39 |
| pcarver | I left those out | 17:40 |
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| pcarver | We need to decide whether we want Jenkins/Zuul to enforce Python 3 | 17:40 |
| pcarver | Jenkins will post -1s for changes that aren't Python 3 compliant if I add that job. | 17:40 |
| LouisF | pcarver: i'm not sure about that - anyone have guidance? | 17:41 |
| pcarver | My thought is that if we want to aim for Python 3 compliance, better to do it from the start | 17:41 |
| vikram_ | pcarver: I feel we must have python 3 support | 17:41 |
| vikram_ | pcarver: +1.. | 17:41 |
| pcarver | otherwise we'd possibly have to do a bunch of fixes later | 17:41 |
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| vikram_ | pcarver: It's mandate in neutron now | 17:41 |
| LouisF | vikram_: then we should do it | 17:42 |
| vikram_ | pcarver: All the sub projects are fixing issues | 17:42 |
| pcarver | If we're agreed I'll put in a change to add it | 17:42 |
| vikram_ | +1 | 17:42 |
| s3wong | +1 | 17:42 |
| LouisF | pcarver: +1 | 17:42 |
| Swami | +1 | 17:42 |
| LouisF | #agreed add python3-jobs | 17:42 |
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| pcarver | As far as translation-job is concerned, I assume we probably need to talk to someone about how we engage people with the language skills to create translations | 17:43 |
| pcarver | At least, I'm assuming translation-jobs has to do with translating English language messages into the corresponding strings in all other supported languages | 17:43 |
| LouisF | how is that handled elsewhere in neutron? | 17:44 |
| pcarver | I'm not entirely sure, but I guess there must be a bunch of multilingual people who work on translating messages. I don't think this is software at all. | 17:45 |
| LouisF | pcarver: I think we can leave that for later | 17:45 |
| pcarver | I think there must be files of message strings that the underscore function uses | 17:45 |
| pcarver | LouisF: agreed, not at all urgent | 17:46 |
| pcarver | just something to keep in mind that we're going to need eventually | 17:46 |
| LouisF | pcarver: agree | 17:46 |
| LouisF | any other topics for discussion? | 17:47 |
| vikram_ | LouisF: I have one | 17:47 |
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| LouisF | vikram_: go ahead | 17:47 |
| vikram_ | LouisF: I think we | 17:47 |
| vikram_ | got to address Kyles comment on test sufficiency | 17:47 |
| LouisF | vikram_: +1 | 17:47 |
| LouisF | we need to add api, full-stack tests | 17:48 |
| vikram_ | LouisF: + functional | 17:48 |
| vikram_ | LouisF: Existing patches doesn't have these.. | 17:49 |
| vikram_ | LouisF: Getting all the changes done by 10th Oct might be a risk | 17:49 |
| LouisF | vikram_: right, I can look at api tests | 17:49 |
| vikram_ | LouisF: As we discussed in the last meeting | 17:49 |
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| pcarver | Here's the review to add python3-jobs #link https://review.openstack.org/227445 | 17:50 |
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| LouisF | pcarver: thanks | 17:51 |
| vikram_ | LouisF: We also got to write the dedvstack changes | 17:52 |
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| vikram_ | LouisF: I think mohan_ is doing that | 17:52 |
| LouisF | mohan_: vikram_ thanks | 17:53 |
| mohan_ | vikram : ys | 17:53 |
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| LouisF | lets discuss testing in more detail next week | 17:54 |
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| mohan_ | LouisF: ok | 17:55 |
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| LouisF | I think we made good progress this week - thanks everyone | 17:55 |
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| LouisF | bye | 17:56 |
| s3wong | bye | 17:56 |
| pcarver | bye | 17:56 |
| mohan_ | bye | 17:56 |
| LouisF | #endmeeting | 17:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 24 17:57:01 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2015/service_chaining.2015-09-24-17.01.html | 17:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2015/service_chaining.2015-09-24-17.01.txt | 17:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2015/service_chaining.2015-09-24-17.01.log.html | 17:57 |
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