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| nikhil_k | anyone around for Drivers' meeting? | 14:01 |
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| nikhil_k | flaper87: sigmavirus24_awa | 14:02 |
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| flaper87 | nikhil_k: o/ | 14:05 |
| nikhil_k | hey, should we have the meeting today? | 14:05 |
| nikhil_k | flaper87: or you busy enough to cancle it? | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | nikhil_k: the later, but we should totally do it next week. We do have a backlog to discuss | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | unless sigmavirus24_awa shows up | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | and rosmaita | 14:06 |
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| nikhil_k | flaper87: sure, I think both are away | 14:06 |
| nikhil_k | rosmaita for sure is away | 14:06 |
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| sigmavirus24 | Sorry I'm late | 14:07 |
| * sigmavirus24 woke up late | 14:07 | |
| nikhil_k | np | 14:07 |
| nikhil_k | #startmeeting Glance Drivers' | 14:08 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 23 14:08:04 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is nikhil_k. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:08 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Glance Drivers')" | 14:08 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance_drivers_' | 14:08 |
| sigmavirus24 | o/ | 14:08 |
| nikhil_k | #topic agenda | 14:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: Glance Drivers')" | 14:08 | |
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| nikhil_k | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-drivers-meeting-agenda | 14:08 |
| nikhil_k | As we are a bit late, may be we can quickly discuss "Who we are?" part | 14:09 |
| nikhil_k | Otherwise, I have listed 3 specs that need our attn soon | 14:09 |
| nikhil_k | #topic Identity | 14:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Identity (Meeting topic: Glance Drivers')" | 14:10 | |
| nikhil_k | #info current Glance Drivers: Brian Rosmaita, Ian Cordasco, Flavio Percoco, Nikhil Komawar | 14:10 |
| nikhil_k | I have listed interests to gather some feedback on whether we need all features covered | 14:10 |
| nikhil_k | Guess there was some feedback to merge drivers and core, that may cover this aspect | 14:11 |
| nikhil_k | My questions are: | 14:11 |
| sigmavirus24 | Yeah, I'm not 100% sold on merging cores and drivers, but I don't think more drivers will hurt | 14:12 |
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| nikhil_k | 1. How do we ensure that Drivers are actually driving the project forward | 14:12 |
| nikhil_k | 2. How we do balance assignments? | 14:12 |
| nikhil_k | 3. Does merging them not add overhead to the responsibility and restrict scaling up cores? | 14:13 |
| nikhil_k | 4. With growing interest of glance_Store in community, how do we ensure that cores in that repo are actually drivers for glance? | 14:13 |
| nikhil_k | (we will have separate list anyways) | 14:13 |
| nikhil_k | 5. Who would take action items for specific features and take to other meetings? Do liaisons fit more there? Should we include active liaisons in drivers in that case (and not all cores) ? | 14:14 |
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| nikhil_k | </done_for_now> | 14:15 |
| sigmavirus24 | 1. By removing drivers who aren't actually driving the project forward? | 14:15 |
| sigmavirus24 | 2. Round-robin assignment if no one steps up to drive that spec | 14:16 |
| sigmavirus24 | 3. Yes it does. But I think we need more sub-team cores anyway. I'm not sure if we want sub-team drivers too though. | 14:16 |
| sigmavirus24 | 4. I think that is why we don't want all cores to always be drivers for Glance | 14:16 |
| sigmavirus24 | In general, the way I see Keystone behaving, is that drivers are people who are both active in the community and can understand the needs of users really well | 14:17 |
| sigmavirus24 | I think for a long time Brad Topol was just a driver and was working with CERN, IBM, Rackspace, etc. to determine the needs that Keystone users have | 14:18 |
| sigmavirus24 | Other drivers worked with the projects to determine what was necessary | 14:18 |
| sigmavirus24 | I'm not sure we need to emulate that exactly, but I think it's clear that it's worked well for Keystone | 14:19 |
| nikhil_k | makes sense | 14:19 |
| nikhil_k | .. Users, operators, developers, interest & contributing companies et. al. right? | 14:19 |
| nikhil_k | (or a sub set of the above) | 14:19 |
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| nikhil_k | I guess that moves us smoothly into next topic | 14:20 |
| nikhil_k | #topic How to get involved? | 14:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "How to get involved? (Meeting topic: Glance Drivers')" | 14:20 | |
| flaper87 | ah damn, so, we're having the meeting | 14:21 |
| nikhil_k | #info 1. Provide feedback on specs, code, releases, bugs | 14:21 |
| nikhil_k | flaper87: :) I thought your name woud be hilighted | 14:21 |
| nikhil_k | (vs. nick) | 14:21 |
| sigmavirus24 | nikhil_k: perhaps we need to add some documentation around how drivers get involved and are selected based on these minutes :D | 14:22 |
| nikhil_k | #info 2. Attend meetings, show up on irc once in a while to answer quetsions, provide feedback on ML | 14:22 |
| nikhil_k | sigmavirus24: absoultely :) | 14:22 |
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| nikhil_k | I was hoping to get some intial feedback and then work on wiki like Nova has | 14:23 |
| sigmavirus24 | ah, nice | 14:24 |
| nikhil_k | #info 3. Contribute to code, documentation, etc enhancements | 14:24 |
| * flaper87 will like to discuss the core+drivers thing again, we can do that in our next meeting | 14:24 | |
| flaper87 | would likE* | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | +1 for documenting how to get involved | 14:24 |
| nikhil_k | flaper87: sure, I am not around. we can discuss the week after? and in the mini-summit (with all remote folks)? | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | nikhil_k: sounds perfect | 14:25 |
| nikhil_k | cool | 14:25 |
| nikhil_k | any more input on the currently set topic? | 14:25 |
| nikhil_k | please \#info it | 14:25 |
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| flaper87 | #info discuss specs in the open/m-l to get people interested | 14:26 |
| nikhil_k | ++ | 14:26 |
| flaper87 | I didn't enumerate it | 14:26 |
| nikhil_k | np | 14:26 |
| flaper87 | :( | 14:26 |
| * flaper87 likes numbers | 14:26 | |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:26 |
| sigmavirus24 | #info Review existing specs and provide useful feedback | 14:26 |
| * sigmavirus24 doesn't enumerate his so flaper87 doesn't seem like an outcast | 14:26 | |
| * flaper87 hughs sigmavirus24 | 14:27 | |
| flaper87 | hugs | 14:27 |
| sigmavirus24 | I like the qualifier of useful mostly because someone could just +1 each spec and say "Looks godo to me!" | 14:27 |
| sigmavirus24 | You can Hugh me too | 14:27 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:27 |
| nikhil_k | #info Pick up any backlog items and help project move forward in that direction | 14:27 |
| sigmavirus24 | I think we want drivers who can notice architecture burdens/problems | 14:27 |
| sigmavirus24 | Yep | 14:28 |
| nikhil_k | nice | 14:28 |
| sigmavirus24 | I tried to go through a bunch of old specs on the plane to Liberty | 14:28 |
| nikhil_k | :) | 14:28 |
| flaper87 | "on the plane to liberty" | 14:28 |
| sigmavirus24 | Didn't want to just abandon things though | 14:28 |
| sigmavirus24 | *to the liberty summit | 14:28 |
| sigmavirus24 | flaper87: are you happy now hugh? | 14:28 |
| * flaper87 will forward that to sigmavirus24's wife (or future wife) | 14:29 | |
| sigmavirus24 | flaper87: lol | 14:29 |
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| nikhil_k | I will move on in the interest of time | 14:29 |
| sigmavirus24 | is this what you're going to use to blackmail me into working on zaqar or rust? | 14:29 |
| nikhil_k | #topic Priority Specs | 14:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Priority Specs (Meeting topic: Glance Drivers')" | 14:29 | |
| nikhil_k | #action review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192926/ | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | sigmavirus24: damn, you're smart! :S | 14:29 |
| nikhil_k | #action review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191542/ | 14:29 |
| nikhil_k | #action review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188050/ | 14:29 |
| sigmavirus24 | Oh yeah, I need to finish that | 14:29 |
| sigmavirus24 | :X | 14:29 |
| nikhil_k | We should revisit them next week to ensure that e are actually making progress there | 14:30 |
| nikhil_k | and I guess we are out of time for today | 14:30 |
| sigmavirus24 | Agreed | 14:30 |
| sigmavirus24 | Thanks nikhil_k ! | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | roger | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | ! | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | thanks | 14:30 |
| nikhil_k | Thanks all! | 14:30 |
| nikhil_k | #endmeeting | 14:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:31 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 23 14:31:02 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_drivers_/2015/glance_drivers_.2015-06-23-14.08.html | 14:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_drivers_/2015/glance_drivers_.2015-06-23-14.08.txt | 14:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_drivers_/2015/glance_drivers_.2015-06-23-14.08.log.html | 14:31 |
| * flaper87 says bye to Mr. all | 14:31 | |
| nikhil_k | :D | 14:31 |
| nikhil_k | flaper87: there were a couple of guys lurking | 14:31 |
| flaper87 | O.o | 14:31 |
| flaper87 | we should create a movie called: "The lurkers" | 14:32 |
| nikhil_k | :P | 14:32 |
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| EmilienM | hello here, puppet openstack meeting is about to start | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | #startmeeting puppet-openstack | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 23 15:00:16 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'puppet_openstack' | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | who is here today? | 15:00 |
| crinkle | o/ | 15:00 |
| _ody | o/ | 15:00 |
| dfisher | o/ | 15:00 |
| spredzy | o/ | 15:00 |
| dmsimard | o/ | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | #link agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-weekly-meeting-20150623 | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | #link last meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-06-16-15.00.html | 15:00 |
| sbadia | o/ | 15:01 |
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| EmilienM | #topic Actions from last meeting | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:01 | |
| EmilienM | spredzy,clayton create a POC and send an email to the ML about parameter default policy. Not Done, will be postponed | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | cody to finish neutron patch to support puppet4 - DONE | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | thx _ody btw ^ | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | spredzy Send a patch as an implementation reference (dbsync exec). Not Done, will be postponed | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | spredzy Send an email on the ML to let community know the final word on that thread (dbsync exec). Not Done, will be postponed | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | Emilien to run a thread on ML about some stable branches deprecations (grizzly+havana) DONE | 15:01 |
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| richm | here | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | no negative feedback on this one ^ | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | I guess we can go for it | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | and | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | mdorman to work more on https://review.openstack.org/192009, DONE, merged | 15:02 |
| galstrom | #join #openstack-meeting | 15:02 |
| galstrom | sorry | 15:02 |
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| EmilienM | #topic Announcements | 15:02 |
| _ody | thx for the review. social and I'll will finish up the other one that wasn't caught by tests...and I'll get myself a better acceptance environment today | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:02 | |
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| EmilienM | #info 5.1.0 released! | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | thanks everyone for the help on this one | 15:03 |
| sbadia | \o/ | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | #info beaker jobs are now voting | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | #info puppet4 jobs are now voting | 15:03 |
| _ody | Yeah. Great work on the release. | 15:03 |
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| EmilienM | #topic CI status | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI status (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:04 | |
| EmilienM | beaker: working now on 'experimental' upgrade job | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | #link experimental puppet upgrade job: https://review.openstack.org/194293 | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | any feedback is welcome in the patch ^ | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | _ody, sbadia: do we have blockers / work to do for Puppet4 ? | 15:05 |
| _ody | Oh. A question about CI status that I keep meaning to ask the group. Any what for us to get a snapsho it time view of everything in master that is passing? | 15:05 |
| _ody | EmilienM: Besides it being hard to do that ^ | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | #link CI status https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1i2z5QyvukHCWU_JjkWrTpn-PexPBnt3bWPlQfiDGsj8/edit#gid=0 | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | _ody: I have this file now ^ | 15:05 |
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| EmilienM | _ody: but we might need a webpage auto-generated | 15:06 |
| _ody | Ok. That will due...was hoping gerrit and zuul could tell me. | 15:06 |
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| EmilienM | _ody: we can follow-up that later, it's a good point | 15:06 |
| _ody | Only other puppet4 thing is to get everything on rspec-puppet 2.2.0 | 15:06 |
| sbadia | yep | 15:06 |
| EmilienM | #action _ody and EmilienM to figure out about a CI status page | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | sbadia, _ody: cool. Thanks! | 15:07 |
| sbadia | and a waiting patch from social (on puppet-nbeutron) | 15:07 |
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| EmilienM | a last question | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | should we use Puppet4 for beaker jobs? | 15:07 |
| _ody | Would be nice. | 15:07 |
| sbadia | (2.2.0 is related to msync) | 15:07 |
| * _ody only because I am a puppet4 fanboy | 15:07 | |
| EmilienM | well, I would like to use what distros ship | 15:08 |
| sbadia | EmilienM: hum it's too bliding edge :) | 15:08 |
| dfisher | question about Puppet4: do both Ubuntu and RedHat have Puppet4 available? Are they the default? I ask because Solaris is still on 3.6.2 and if needed I can start the legal process to bump to Puppet 4.latest | 15:08 |
| sbadia | yes, it's better to use the distro version | 15:08 |
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| sbadia | it's 3.7 on debian/ubuntu | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | I think for now we should stay on 3.x for beaker jobs and wait to see the package in the distros landed | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | is anyone against that ? | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | well, let's go ahead then | 15:09 |
| dfisher | is there a timetable for moving to puppet 4 in debian/ubuntu? | 15:09 |
| crinkle | it will be a long time before the distros ship puppet 4 | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | crinkle: good point | 15:10 |
| crinkle | we should start testing beaker with puppet 4 when beaker is stable with puppet 4 | 15:10 |
| dfisher | ok. just wanted to see if I needed to start that process on my end. | 15:10 |
| dfisher | thanks | 15:10 |
| crinkle | dfisher: most people on rhel/ubuntu install puppet from the puppet labs repos, not the distro | 15:10 |
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| crinkle | i don't know what the story is for solaris | 15:10 |
| dfisher | we have a native package for it | 15:10 |
| dfisher | to include 25 solaris resource types | 15:11 |
| dfisher | which i desperately need to push back to puppetlabs | 15:11 |
| dfisher | alas … no tests :( | 15:11 |
| paramite | +1 to have at least separate job for puppet4 | 15:11 |
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| EmilienM | ok, so we will think about testing puppet4 when beaker will be stable with puppet4 | 15:11 |
| sbadia | and what the impact on the CI ? | 15:11 |
| sbadia | we have some metrics ? | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | paramite: could be an option, and maybe set the job experimental? | 15:11 |
| paramite | EmilienM, yup, exactly | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | sbadia: what kind of metrics? | 15:12 |
| sbadia | ressources of the CI are not infinite no :) ? | 15:12 |
| sbadia | what the impact of duplicate beaker jobs (3.x + 4.x) on each patch | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | sbadia: I can ask infra | 15:13 |
| sbadia | thanks! | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | #action EmilienM to investigate a new experimental job to test beaker against puppet4 | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | crinkle: where can I see if beaker is stable with puppet4 ? | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | or the other way around | 15:13 |
| crinkle | EmilienM: i don't know how well it supports installing puppet 4 and the all-in-one package yet | 15:14 |
| crinkle | so we'd have to consult the documentation or ask the devs | 15:14 |
| _ody | I can check with PL QE. | 15:14 |
| crinkle | thanks _ody | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | #action _ody consults PL QE to know more about beaker/puppet4 | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | cool | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | anything else? | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | ok let's go ahead then | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | #topic Kilo release | 15:15 |
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| EmilienM | a lot of people is asking :-) | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | #link status of kilo release: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-kilo-release | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | we still miss some patches merged and also Keystone v3 | 15:16 |
| sbadia | I +2+A some patchs, I'll update the pad | 15:16 |
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| EmilienM | richm, crinkle: when keystone patches will be merged, can we do the release or should we also wait that all puppet openstack modules support new auth method? | 15:16 |
| crinkle | we should go ahead when keystone is done | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | ok | 15:17 |
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| EmilienM | there is not much to say about kilo release, I would just ask to reviewers to look at the etherpad and make sure patch are reviewed | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | #topic Zaqar module | 15:18 |
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| EmilienM | Richard is not here | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | but I think things are moved, I approved the repo in governance | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | #link puppet-zaqar in governance: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191946/ | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | #link puppet-zaqar in os-infra: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191942/ | 15:19 |
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| EmilienM | #topic Keystone v3 resource naming | 15:19 |
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| EmilienM | richm: hello | 15:19 |
| richm | hello | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | #link keystone v3 resource naming thread: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-June/067650.html | 15:20 |
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| richm | After going around and around with this - I think the right thing to do is to leave it up to the composition layer code to specify the full name of the resource | 15:20 |
| EmilienM | there is feedback on this thread | 15:20 |
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| richm | That is, puppet-keystone will _not_ try to "normalize" user/project names in keystone_user_role | 15:21 |
| mdorman | (sorry, late) | 15:21 |
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| EmilienM | richm: if the composition layer is backward compatible, I'm fine with that. | 15:21 |
| richm | If the composition layer specifies username => 'glance', user_domain_name => 'services', then there had better be one, and only one, user named 'glance' in all domains | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | richm: people should not have to change their composition layer because of this feature, otherwise that means we don't do backward compatibility | 15:22 |
| richm | right | 15:22 |
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| richm | Backwards compatibility is a high priority | 15:22 |
| EmilienM | awesome | 15:22 |
| EmilienM | richm: do you have any blocker you want to discuss now? (about keystone v3) | 15:22 |
| richm | I do _not_ want to be harassed by an angry mob for breaking their setups | 15:23 |
| * mfisch puts down his pitchfork | 15:23 | |
| richm | EmilienM: I'm still trying to figure out how make self.instances and self.prefetch work in all cases | 15:23 |
| EmilienM | richm: ok, can you help us by giving some patches URL ? | 15:24 |
| richm | I think I'm close - I should have another round of reviews later today | 15:24 |
| richm | let me test what I have first | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | richm: good work. I'll catch-up on beaker tests when you're done | 15:24 |
| richm | in case you want to try something out | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | anything else on keystone v3? | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | seems like not | 15:25 |
| EmilienM | #topic Move usage questions to openstack-operators mailing list | 15:25 |
| richm | no | 15:25 |
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| EmilienM | So Richard ran this thread | 15:25 |
| EmilienM | mfisch: what do you think ^ ? | 15:26 |
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| EmilienM | and all other operators here | 15:26 |
| mfisch | I'm +1 with it | 15:26 |
| mfisch | I think encouraging the tag use would be nice | 15:26 |
| EmilienM | also +1 because it's consistent with how Openstack does today | 15:26 |
| mfisch | does the ops list official support tags? | 15:26 |
| _ody | +1, seems logical | 15:26 |
| EmilienM | if anyone has objection, please raise your hand | 15:26 |
| EmilienM | mfisch: good question | 15:26 |
| mfisch | maybe we need to ask TomF? | 15:27 |
| EmilienM | mfisch: do you want to take that point? | 15:27 |
| mfisch | sure | 15:28 |
| EmilienM | #action mfisch ask to TomF about usage of tags in Operators ML | 15:28 |
| EmilienM | #topic Open Discussion, Bug and Review triage | 15:28 |
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| EmilienM | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/puppet-nova/+bug/1467667 | 15:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1467667 in puppet-nova "openstack-puppet modules should support configuring RabbitMQ heartbeat" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Mike Dorman (mdorman-m) | 15:28 |
| EmilienM | mdorman: o/ | 15:28 |
| mdorman | so the main question on this is what mfisch brought up on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194399/ | 15:29 |
| EmilienM | we are facing the situation we were talking at the summit | 15:29 |
| EmilienM | with oslo | 15:29 |
| EmilienM | :) | 15:29 |
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| mdorman | the default value for rabbit_heartbeat_timeout_threshold changed between oslo.messaging 1.10.0 and 1.11.0 | 15:29 |
| EmilienM | this is an excellent question | 15:29 |
| mdorman | old default was 60, new default is 0 | 15:29 |
| mdorman | my opinion is we make it default to 0 in puppet, since that’s what it is going forward | 15:30 |
| mfisch | does 0 mean off? | 15:30 |
| EmilienM | mdorman: if you patch nova, you have to watch which version of oslo it uses, and use its default value | 15:30 |
| EmilienM | mdorman: at least that how we proposed to solve this issue in VC | 15:30 |
| mdorman | mfisch: 0 does mean off. but operators already using the feature (by default), are eventually going to have to do some reconfiguration, anyway, b/c once you go to oslo.messaging 1.11.0, the default is off | 15:30 |
| mdorman | EmilienM: i don’t think i was there for that convo. not opposed to tracking the version of oslo.messaging, but unsure what the best day to do that is | 15:31 |
| EmilienM | mdorman: I think we need to use openstack defaults | 15:31 |
| EmilienM | and let operators change them | 15:31 |
| mdorman | EmilienM: right, agreed, but _which_ default is the question | 15:31 |
| mfisch | thats my vote | 15:31 |
| EmilienM | because if we start to change them, operators will hate us one day | 15:31 |
| mdorman | from 1.10.0 and earlier, or 1.11.0 and later? | 15:31 |
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| EmilienM | mdorman: the version of the project you're patching | 15:32 |
| EmilienM | we will probably have inconsistent default params across modules but well, if openstack is not consistent in oslo usage, we can't fix it. | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | if the default changed in openstack, there might be a reason in the code | 15:33 |
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| mdorman | well kilo keystone has oslo.messaging>=1.8.0, so for kilo you could conceivably have either version (new or old default) | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | and puppet does not deal with that | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | oh I see | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | mdorman: well, in that case I'll believe your OPS experience | 15:33 |
| mdorman | this feature did not exsit before kilo, so we are not talking about having to backport it or anthing like that. | 15:33 |
| mfisch | so where do the defaults come from? | 15:34 |
| EmilienM | no we won't backport that | 15:34 |
| mdorman | oslo.messaging, let me find the link real quick | 15:34 |
| mfisch | the config is in keystone.conf (for example), but the default is really in the library | 15:34 |
| EmilienM | we should also see what packaging provides :-) | 15:34 |
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| mdorman | yeah that’s a good point. | 15:34 |
| EmilienM | in ubuntu/fedora at leasr | 15:34 |
| EmilienM | least* | 15:34 |
| mdorman | https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging/blob/1.10.0/oslo_messaging/_drivers/impl_rabbit.py#L125-L126 1.10.0 version | 15:34 |
| EmilienM | mdorman: can you take the action? | 15:34 |
| mdorman | https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging/blob/1.11.0/oslo_messaging/_drivers/impl_rabbit.py#L126-L127 1.11.0 version | 15:34 |
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| mdorman | EmilienM: yeah i can figure out what packages have. i suspect once all the inter-project deps are worked out, we’ll end up with a newer version of oslo.messaging anyway | 15:35 |
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| EmilienM | #action mdorman follows up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194399/ in investigating oslo messaging version shipped by packaging and set the right default values | 15:35 |
| EmilienM | mdorman: thanks | 15:35 |
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| mfisch | lets keep up to date on this via the ML | 15:35 |
| mfisch | this is a very important patch | 15:35 |
| mdorman | i’ll reserach and then post to ML | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | mfisch: +1 | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | cool, we have a plan | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | #link keystone.py patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193679/ | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | mfisch: o/ | 15:36 |
| mfisch | yeah | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | I think the problem is pretty clear | 15:36 |
| mfisch | this is not a complicated patch but I wanted to let everyone know that we still need to sync this file | 15:36 |
| mfisch | at least for this cycle | 15:36 |
| mfisch | hopefully it will start getting packaged | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | 1/ we have to continue to ship it until Ubuntu fix it (ship only on ubuntu systems) | 15:36 |
| dmsimard | Also wanted to point out the keystone.py is also broken for icehouse - have a review for it here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191212/ | 15:37 |
| EmilienM | 2/ make sure with jamespage it's WIP on his side | 15:37 |
| EmilienM | dmsimard: good point, it would be great to be merged | 15:37 |
| mfisch | I spoke to zul about it, I can ping james | 15:37 |
| mfisch | is that an action? Probably talking to chuck was enough | 15:38 |
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| EmilienM | mfisch: cool, your patch is a good link to keep | 15:38 |
| EmilienM | #action mfisch follows-up keystone.py issue on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193679/ | 15:38 |
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| EmilienM | #link nova/rbd: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119093/ | 15:39 |
| EmilienM | dmsimard: o/ | 15:39 |
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| mfisch | dmsimard: did you just sync that in from the icehouse branch? | 15:39 |
| dmsimard | mfisch: yes | 15:39 |
| mfisch | ok merged | 15:39 |
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| dmsimard | Would love to have the RBD ephemeral toggle merged is all, been outstanding since 2014 :) | 15:40 |
| dmsimard | Otherwise nova::compute::rbd assumes Ceph is used for both Cinder volumes AND ephemeral storage | 15:40 |
| EmilienM | I've participated to the patch, I'm not sure I can +2 | 15:40 |
| dmsimard | So if you use nova::compute::rbd with actual local storage, local storage VMs will fail miserably at spawning | 15:40 |
| EmilienM | dmsimard: +1 | 15:40 |
| EmilienM | I don't see any blocker on this one | 15:41 |
| dmsimard | I'm using that patchset in our deployments, works well for us. | 15:41 |
| EmilienM | cool, good to know | 15:41 |
| EmilienM | dmsimard: do you want to talk about "Lack of a proper Cinder provider for volume types, extra specs, qos settings" ? | 15:42 |
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| dmsimard | EmilienM: Sure, just wanted to have a general discussion around the lack of providers for volume types, extra specs, qos and the likes in Cinder | 15:42 |
| EmilienM | dmsimard: do you mean to replace our wonderful execs by puppet providers ? :-) | 15:42 |
| dmsimard | EmilienM: Ah, yes, indeed, https://github.com/openstack/puppet-cinder/blob/master/manifests/type_set.pp is not super cool | 15:43 |
| EmilienM | yes +1 | 15:43 |
| EmilienM | I think nobody will reject this kind of patch | 15:43 |
| EmilienM | which will make our module more stable & Puppetish than using Exec for that. | 15:43 |
| xarses | yes, Please no one like it. I wish I had the time to fix it =/ | 15:43 |
| dmsimard | I tried to look at doing something with Cinderclient but it's too much work, it's all prettytables. Openstackclient provides csv output and could provide a mean to do something | 15:43 |
| dmsimard | I just wanted to have your opinion on what module has the "best" implementation of a provider using Openstackclient, I'll try and take example from it | 15:44 |
| EmilienM | dmsimard: osclient is the way to go, consistent with what we do in keystone already | 15:44 |
| EmilienM | dmsimard: and you have the util code in openstacklib | 15:44 |
| dmsimard | xarses: No hate, we've had to do something similar in our composition layer :( | 15:44 |
| crinkle | dmsimard: check out how the keystone providers are done as well as https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172580/ for examples | 15:44 |
| EmilienM | dmsimard: https://github.com/openstack/puppet-openstacklib/blob/master/lib/puppet/provider/openstack.rb | 15:44 |
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| mfisch | EmilienM: I have one more thing wrt keystone when this topic is done | 15:45 |
| EmilienM | mfisch: ack | 15:45 |
| dmsimard | crinkle, EmilienM: Thanks, I'll check it out. This is all in my free time so no ETA :) | 15:45 |
| EmilienM | cool | 15:46 |
| EmilienM | mfisch: go ahead | 15:46 |
| mfisch | I just want to close out the topic, so I filed an Ubuntu bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/keystone/+bug/1467985 | 15:46 |
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| openstack | Launchpad bug 1467985 in keystone (Ubuntu) "ubuntu package needs to ship httpd/keystone.py" [Undecided,New] | 15:46 |
| mfisch | that will track the status | 15:46 |
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| mfisch | If I dont get traction I'll file a support ticket | 15:46 |
| EmilienM | nice | 15:46 |
| EmilienM | #link bug to track keystone.py missing in ubuntu packaging https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/keystone/+bug/1467985 | 15:47 |
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| EmilienM | crinkle: I'm curious, can you give us a status on the work you're doing with integration module? | 15:47 |
| crinkle | EmilienM: waiting on the repo to be created | 15:47 |
| EmilienM | and if you have any blocker | 15:47 |
| EmilienM | cool, after that I think we will be able to move fast | 15:48 |
| crinkle | i think so | 15:48 |
| EmilienM | crinkle: thanks for this work | 15:48 |
| crinkle | yup | 15:48 |
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| mfisch | can we discuss puppet-monasca? | 15:48 |
| EmilienM | we did all our agenda, does anyone has anything else to add? we have 10 min left | 15:48 |
| EmilienM | mfisch: go ahead | 15:49 |
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| mfisch | yeah, I want crinkle to use here infra juju to get this merged: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194263/ | 15:49 |
| mfisch | that adds puppet-manager-core to monasca | 15:49 |
| crinkle | i have no special powers | 15:49 |
| EmilienM | mfedosin: just ping infra folks | 15:49 |
| EmilienM | they are quite responsive | 15:49 |
| mfisch | sure | 15:49 |
| mfisch | I'll give it a couple more days before i bug people | 15:50 |
| EmilienM | they use to review every day so I'm confident it's merged this week. | 15:50 |
| EmilienM | anything else folks? | 15:50 |
| mfisch | nope | 15:50 |
| dmsimard | good for me | 15:50 |
| EmilienM | That's All Folks! | 15:50 |
| EmilienM | have a great day/evening | 15:50 |
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| EmilienM | #endmeeting | 15:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:50 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 23 15:50:56 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-06-23-15.00.html | 15:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-06-23-15.00.txt | 15:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-06-23-15.00.log.html | 15:51 |
| crinkle | o/ | 15:51 |
| sbadia | thanks :) | 15:51 |
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| Santosh_ | hi | 16:03 |
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| nikhil_k | yo | 16:06 |
| johnsom | Hi nikhil_k | 16:07 |
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| nikhil_k | hi johnsom | 16:08 |
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| xgerman | hi | 16:08 |
| Santosh_ | Has gslb meeting beeen postponed? | 16:08 |
| xgerman | not sure | 16:08 |
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| xgerman | mugs says yes - postponed | 16:09 |
| xgerman | mugsie | 16:09 |
| mugsie | I think it has | 16:10 |
| mugsie | by not being schedualed | 16:10 |
| Santosh_ | ok | 16:10 |
| mugsie | I can take an action to get an agenda, and definitly have a meeting next week? | 16:10 |
| Santosh_ | Thanks xgerman :) | 16:11 |
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