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| Sukhdev | Hello L2 GW folks, | 16:58 |
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| selvakumar | Hi Sukhdev | 16:58 |
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| Sukhdev | selvakumar: I do not see Armando and Maruti here yet | 16:59 |
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| selvakumar | hi Maruti | 16:59 |
| maruti_ | Hi Selva | 16:59 |
| maruti_ | Is Sukhdev there in the room? | 16:59 |
| selvakumar | Yes | 17:00 |
| maruti_ | I can see Alok also | 17:00 |
| Sukhdev | cool - | 17:00 |
| Sukhdev | I was looking for you earlier | 17:00 |
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| yamahata | hello | 17:01 |
| maruti_ | Hi Everyone | 17:01 |
| Sukhdev | let me ping Armando - give me a sec | 17:01 |
| ashishg | Hello | 17:01 |
| maruti_ | Thanks Sukhdev for advancing the meeting by an hour | 17:02 |
| Sukhdev | maruti_: Hope this helps India team | 17:02 |
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| Sukhdev | armax: is here as well - lets get started | 17:03 |
| Sukhdev | #startmeeting networking_l2gw | 17:03 |
| armax | hi | 17:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 13 17:03:25 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_l2gw' | 17:03 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda: | 17:03 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/L2Gateway | 17:04 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements: | 17:04 |
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| Sukhdev | Before we start, anybody has any announcement to make? | 17:04 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Discussion on Plan for Vancouver summit presentation | 17:05 |
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| Sukhdev | I thought we start with some kind of plan as to how to organize our presentation | 17:06 |
| Sukhdev | for Vancouver summit | 17:06 |
| Sukhdev | who wants to go first? | 17:06 |
| maruti_ | What points should we cover in the presentation? | 17:06 |
| Sukhdev | maruti_: I think we should highlight the following points: | 17:07 |
| Sukhdev | 1) Background/motivation and any prior attempts | 17:07 |
| Sukhdev | 2) High level architecture | 17:07 |
| Sukhdev | 3) Participants | 17:07 |
| Sukhdev | 4) a bit about the details (not too glory details) | 17:07 |
| Sukhdev | 5) a demo | 17:08 |
| maruti_ | Use cases? | 17:08 |
| selvakumar | L2GW RESTful API design, L2GW agent design , L2GW Service Plugin architecture (includes Ml2 interactions), SB implementation (OVSDB ) | 17:08 |
| Sukhdev | selvakumar: should we cover that under 3 & 4 | 17:08 |
| yamahata | future plan? | 17:08 |
| Sukhdev | maruti_: use cases is good - | 17:08 |
| Sukhdev | maruti_: I think use cases can go between 1 and 2 | 17:09 |
| selvakumar | Sukhdev: I agree | 17:09 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: yes - definately | 17:09 |
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| Sukhdev | armax: thoughts? | 17:10 |
| maruti_ | armax what do you think? | 17:10 |
| armax | can someone elaborate point 3? | 17:10 |
| armax | I am not sure I understand what it is | 17:10 |
| Sukhdev | armax: I thought we introduce the team, the wiki, the meetings (this one), etc... | 17:11 |
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| Sukhdev | armax: as part of 3 | 17:11 |
| armax | Sukhdev: I am not sure the audience could care about the wiki and pointers | 17:11 |
| armax | those should go at the end | 17:11 |
| armax | for people’s reference | 17:11 |
| armax | when we’re doing the Q&A | 17:12 |
| armax | if there’s any | 17:12 |
| Sukhdev | armax: sounds reasonable - | 17:12 |
| armax | after all we the rest of the points look good | 17:12 |
| Sukhdev | I threw all those bullets (not necessarily in the order) | 17:12 |
| armax | in the simplest of forms we could really just take the lightening talk that Maruti gave during the last summit | 17:12 |
| maruti_ | Should it be a live demo or recorded? | 17:12 |
| armax | and explode the points in the actual stuff that was done | 17:12 |
| armax | maruti_: I think that a canned demo is probably better, but I honestly don’t think that a demo brings any value | 17:13 |
| Sukhdev | maruti_: do you still have that presentation? can you share? | 17:13 |
| armax | in the end is a bunch of commands typed in the cli | 17:13 |
| maruti_ | Yes I will send an email with the preso | 17:13 |
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| armax | and a ping to a baremetal host that people must believe is indeed bare matal | 17:13 |
| armax | I don’t think it' | 17:13 |
| armax | it’s that sexy | 17:13 |
| maruti_ | :) | 17:14 |
| armax | so if we were to expand other points, or save time for Q&A I’d totally vote for banning the demo altogether | 17:14 |
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| Sukhdev | armax: I am OK either way - demo gives feeling that the API is ready | 17:14 |
| armax | Sukhdev: no it doesn't | 17:14 |
| Sukhdev | armax: but, if couple of vendors say they are using it, it will do the same | 17:15 |
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| armax | Sukhdev: and that has nothing to do with showing a demo | 17:15 |
| armax | as the name says, a demo shows how the product works | 17:16 |
| armax | not that people are using it | 17:16 |
| Sukhdev | only issue I see with demo is that it could chew a lot of time - which could be spent on Q&A | 17:16 |
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| armax | Sukhdev: right…in the end it’s like | 17:16 |
| maruti_ | We can keep the demo in the backup slides | 17:16 |
| Sukhdev | armax, maruti_ : I have an idea | 17:16 |
| armax | the other idea is that we could record the demo and give the pointer | 17:17 |
| maruti_ | yes, that is good | 17:17 |
| armax | the other possibility is that while we explain the API we could should the demo side by side | 17:17 |
| armax | but that requires quite a bit of training | 17:17 |
| Sukhdev | usually, there are open time slots available - we could possibly schedule demo there - and in the main presentation can tell people, if anybody is interested in playing with it, they can go to this session | 17:17 |
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| armax | to make sure that everything goes smoothly | 17:17 |
| armax | that too | 17:18 |
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| Sukhdev | So, we have few ideas: a) no demo, b) recorded demo with a pointer c) separate demo session (live) d) ?? | 17:19 |
| Sukhdev | I have did c) for Arista demo in the past - it worked well - i.e. in the main session, just mentioned and gave the timing of the demo and who ever is interested shows up there | 17:21 |
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| maruti_ | I liked option b | 17:21 |
| armax | I guess a recorded demo would be good as educational material available n the wiki | 17:21 |
| armax | if we have time we could do b and c | 17:21 |
| armax | they are not mutually exclusive | 17:21 |
| Sukhdev | armax: if you choose to do c) we could use recorded or live (depending upon the level of confidience :-)) | 17:22 |
| Sukhdev | recorded demo takes the pressure off :-) | 17:22 |
| Sukhdev | we could record it and play/pause and explain | 17:23 |
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| maruti_ | We will see how much time it takes to cover all the slides. If we are good with respect to time during practice, then we can bring in the recorded demo. | 17:24 |
| maruti_ | We can decide on this later. | 17:25 |
| Sukhdev | I have a feeling we will get lots of questions - as I am anticipating there will be lots of interest in this topic | 17:25 |
| Sukhdev | That leads to the question on number of slides - | 17:25 |
| armax | well the question is really who talks what | 17:26 |
| Sukhdev | armax: we can divide the sub-topics and decide who covers which sub-topic | 17:27 |
| armax | typically one should spend one or one minute an half per slide | 17:27 |
| armax | if we have a 40 min slots | 17:27 |
| armax | prolly 15 slides is the most we could afford | 17:28 |
| maruti_ | According to me, let's put the slides together and then decide who can take up which slide(s). | 17:28 |
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| Sukhdev | maruti_: sounds reasonable | 17:28 |
| maruti_ | Let me and Selva prepare a draft copy and send to you people and then let us review over the emails and modify accordingly. | 17:29 |
| Sukhdev | maruti_: sounds good - so, you will take your existing deck and build around it, right? | 17:30 |
| maruti_ | Yes | 17:30 |
| selvakumar | Maruti: I agree that sounds good, we can workout the slides | 17:30 |
| maruti_ | And I will send the copy of the lightning talk to you anyways | 17:30 |
| Sukhdev | We can iterate over the slides via email and then we can use next meeting (4/27) as well to cover the loose ends | 17:31 |
| maruti_ | Agreed | 17:31 |
| Sukhdev | maruti_: In the mean time, I have kicked off testing on Arista HW - If you want, I can record a demo as well (only if I am able to make it work :-)) | 17:32 |
| maruti_ | :) | 17:32 |
| Sukhdev | #action: maruti_ and selvakumar to prepare a rough draft of the presentation and share with the team | 17:33 |
| maruti_ | Thanks Sukhdev. You may hit some issues. I am also testing the latest code and fixing issues as they are discovered. | 17:33 |
| armax | one thing that might be looking to add | 17:33 |
| armax | is a roadmap, assumed we can work out one ahead of the summit ;) | 17:34 |
| armax | where do we go from here? | 17:34 |
| maruti_ | Our earlier plan was the s/w l2 gateway. | 17:34 |
| Sukhdev | armax: correct - i think that is what yamahata was eluding to as well | 17:34 |
| armax | also, another suggestion would be to add a slide with FAQ | 17:34 |
| armax | Sukhdev: yes, I think we can elaborate a roadmap offline | 17:35 |
| armax | but it’s good to bear that in mind | 17:35 |
| yamahata | FAQ would be uploaded to wiki or somewhere. This is a bit off topic. | 17:35 |
| armax | as for FAQ, for instance I am thinking about the most obvious question people may ask, like ‘how do I get my hands on L2GW'? | 17:35 |
| armax | yamahata: I don’t think it is | 17:36 |
| Sukhdev | armax: FAQ, wiki, team, meetings, participants, etc…we can all dump it on one slide | 17:36 |
| armax | Sukhdev: right, that’s what I am saying a slide with pointers | 17:36 |
| armax | but highlighting the most obvious ones | 17:36 |
| Sukhdev | armax: I see your point - I think it makes sense | 17:36 |
| armax | after the presentations people would want to know how to get it to work | 17:37 |
| armax | and since l2gw is not technically part of neutron, people would wonder how we integrate etc | 17:37 |
| armax | these are details we can iron out offline | 17:37 |
| Sukhdev | when maruti_ sends the initial draft, we can look at adding a slide or two cover this and iterate over it | 17:37 |
| armax | I am just making the suggestion here | 17:37 |
| Sukhdev | So, we have a plan for the slides, and we are converging on recorded demo | 17:39 |
| Sukhdev | Are we good with this? | 17:39 |
| Sukhdev | Hopefully within next week or two, we should polish up the slides and then we can cover them in the next meeting (here) | 17:39 |
| maruti_ | Yes. Let us review further over emails | 17:39 |
| Sukhdev | Any other thought on this? I have one more item to cover :-) | 17:40 |
| * Sukhdev waiting | 17:40 | |
| Sukhdev | #topic: versioning and release management of L2 Gateway | 17:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": versioning and release management of L2 Gateway (Meeting topic: networking_l2gw)" | 17:40 | |
| Sukhdev | I pushed a patch yesterday - | 17:41 |
| Sukhdev | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172742/ | 17:41 |
| Sukhdev | In this patch, I tried to explain my thought process - do not know if you guys had a chance to review | 17:41 |
| maruti_ | Sukhdev you posted a review for pip install. I am not sure whether it will work currently. | 17:41 |
| Sukhdev | maruti_: did not understand, can you elaborate? | 17:42 |
| armax | Sukhdev: now that Kilo RC is out, I am gonna resume efforts on this project, so I’ll review it later | 17:42 |
| Sukhdev | maruti_: if you mean pip install will not work because we have not pushed it yet - then yes | 17:42 |
| maruti_ | correct | 17:43 |
| Sukhdev | armax maruti_: correct - once we agree to the versioning, etc.. I will create a branch, tag the version and push it to pypi | 17:43 |
| armax | Sukhdev: cool | 17:43 |
| maruti_ | That will be great | 17:43 |
| armax | Sukhdev: I shall have a pass by the end of my day | 17:44 |
| Sukhdev | To push the package to pypi, it needs to be tagged and versioned - hence, we need to reach to an agreement | 17:44 |
| Sukhdev | armax: cool - I will be on IRC, feel free to ping me with questions/clarifications | 17:45 |
| Sukhdev | Others, please do review and see if you agree to the overall thought process | 17:45 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Project Status | 17:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Project Status (Meeting topic: networking_l2gw)" | 17:45 | |
| Sukhdev | armax, maruti_ , selvakumar : want to give status of the project (overall)? | 17:46 |
| * Sukhdev waiting | 17:47 | |
| armax | I have none | 17:47 |
| armax | but I have noticed that HP has plugged a 3rd pary CI system to the project | 17:47 |
| maruti_ | Most of the code is landed into the stackforge | 17:48 |
| selvakumar | Sukhdev: Alok and team will start testing end to end from this wednesday . right now dev team have resolved the critical defects. we yet to continue end to end testing | 17:48 |
| armax | the CI should expand the test coverage | 17:48 |
| maruti_ | We are also filing defects as we come across and fixing them. | 17:48 |
| armax | and I know some folks are working on it | 17:48 |
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| maruti_ | right now, I am able to execute REST APIs and able to make changes to the OVSDB tables. | 17:49 |
| alokmaurya | we are working on to add more tests | 17:49 |
| Sukhdev | I approved three patches over the weekend - hopefully, that will make things more stable | 17:49 |
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| alokmaurya | currently CI is running with basic CURD operations of l2gateway and l2gateway connection | 17:49 |
| Sukhdev | alokmaurya: interesting, when I tried to run on Arista HW, I was seeing issues - | 17:50 |
| alokmaurya | we are trying to convert existing tempest test cases in a similar format as neutron api tests | 17:50 |
| maruti_ | Sukhdev, the same issues were seen by the CI and I got a chance to fix them. | 17:51 |
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| maruti_ | Please take the latest code and you should be good to test with Arista switches. | 17:51 |
| alokmaurya | Sukhdev : are you trying to run tests which are available in repo ? | 17:52 |
| Sukhdev | maruti_: I have already pulled the latest code, will test later today and report via email | 17:52 |
| ashishg | submitted the patch for the same https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172855/ | 17:52 |
| selvakumar | Sukhdev: please create a defect in launchpad or do let us know in case if you facing issue during Arista switch testing | 17:52 |
| Sukhdev | selvakumar: I have been sending emils - I will start to file bugs as well | 17:52 |
| Sukhdev | Want to bring up another issue | 17:53 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Documentation | 17:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Documentation (Meeting topic: networking_l2gw)" | 17:53 | |
| selvakumar | sure Sukhdev: | 17:53 |
| Sukhdev | Our documentation link is broken - are you aware of it? | 17:53 |
| Sukhdev | check out - http://docs-draft.openstack.org/39/164639/3/check/gate-networking-l2gw-docs/b111c4c//doc/build/html/ | 17:53 |
| Sukhdev | what caused it? | 17:53 |
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| Sukhdev | anybody is aware of this? | 17:54 |
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| * Sukhdev waiting | 17:55 | |
| Sukhdev | armax: you are good at this kind of stuff :-):-) any idea? | 17:55 |
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| armax | it works here | 17:55 |
| armax | http://docs-draft.openstack.org/35/172935/1/check/gate-networking-l2gw-docs/b924e06//doc/build/html/ | 17:55 |
| armax | so I suspect it’s an outlier | 17:55 |
| Sukhdev | wow!! strange - does this mean the link is fluid and subject to change? | 17:56 |
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| armax | of course it does | 17:57 |
| armax | do you see that the URL contains the refspec? | 17:57 |
| Sukhdev | armax: now that you pointed, I do see it - | 17:57 |
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| Sukhdev | armax: how do we nail it to the wiki and make it stable link? | 17:58 |
| Sukhdev | armax: I hope there is a way to do it | 17:58 |
| armax | Sukhdev: that I am not sure, I am not sure there is, we’d need to ask the docs folks | 17:59 |
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| armax | Sukhdev: perhaps there’s a doc job just as a pip one | 17:59 |
| armax | look here: | 17:59 |
| armax | http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html#add-link-to-your-developer-documentation | 17:59 |
| Sukhdev | armax: if you can give me few pointers/contacts offline, I will follow up and get this fixed | 18:00 |
| armax | it looks like perhaps it can’t be done | 18:00 |
| Sukhdev | armax: oh - that is not good :-) | 18:00 |
| armax | but perhaps it can be published here | 18:00 |
| armax | https://readthedocs.org/ | 18:00 |
| armax | I am pretty sure that’a viable alternative for now | 18:00 |
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| armax | like there used to be ceilomter | 18:01 |
| Sukhdev | Folks, we are up against the time - want to ask final question - Shall we change the meeting time for future meetings or keep it at original time | 18:01 |
| armax | http://ceilometer.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ | 18:01 |
| Sukhdev | armax: let me ping you off line to cover this | 18:01 |
| armax | I need to dash | 18:01 |
| armax | Sukhdev: ping me later | 18:01 |
| Sukhdev | So, what is the answer to my question? about time? | 18:02 |
| maruti_ | This time is good for us unless it's a problem for other time zones. | 18:02 |
| selvakumar | Sukhdev: today time sounds good for India folks | 18:02 |
| armax | I am happy to keep the existing slot | 18:02 |
| armax | but 10am PST works for me too, but I might not be able to attend all the time | 18:02 |
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| Sukhdev | armax: you have to make it hard :-) | 18:02 |
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| Sukhdev | I will change it to earlier slot and on a need basis we can push it out, if needed | 18:03 |
| armax | Sukhdev: I know, that’s me | 18:03 |
| armax | :) | 18:03 |
| Sukhdev | I will send out ML with updated time - also, check the wiki to be sure of the time | 18:03 |
| maruti_ | ok | 18:03 |
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| Sukhdev | thanks folks - it was a very productive meeting. | 18:04 |
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| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 18:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:04 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 13 18:04:22 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:04 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_l2gw/2015/networking_l2gw.2015-04-13-17.03.html | 18:04 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_l2gw/2015/networking_l2gw.2015-04-13-17.03.txt | 18:04 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_l2gw/2015/networking_l2gw.2015-04-13-17.03.log.html | 18:04 |
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