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| pc_m | hi | 15:01 |
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| pc_m | xuhanp: hi | 15:02 |
| xuhanp | pc_m, hi | 15:03 |
| * pc_m waiting a few mins for people to join | 15:03 | |
| pc_m | Looks like we can start, might just be you and me :) | 15:04 |
| pc_m | #startmeeting vpnaas | 15:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 10 15:05:01 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is pc_m. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vpnaas)" | 15:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vpnaas' | 15:05 |
| pc_m | #topic Announcements | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: vpnaas)" | 15:05 | |
| pc_m | Function checks of all VPN commits are enabled for check queue (but temporarily disabled) | 15:06 |
| pc_m | Coverage testing shuld be enabled, as soon as review gets another core +2/+A | 15:07 |
| pc_m | #action Anyone with functional tests, please push for review, or update existing reviews. | 15:07 |
| pc_m | Please look at any open bugs and review... | 15:08 |
| pc_m | Any other new announcements? | 15:08 |
| pc_m | #topic Functional Testing | 15:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Functional Testing (Meeting topic: vpnaas)" | 15:08 | |
| xuhanp | pc_m, is the strongswan driver going to be targeted at K-3? | 15:09 |
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| pc_m | xuhanp: It has been moved from K-2 to K-3, so that's the hope. | 15:09 |
| xuhanp | sounds great. thanks! | 15:09 |
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| pc_m | Especially since Ubuntu is not installing OpenSwan in 14.10. | 15:10 |
| xuhanp | yep | 15:10 |
| pc_m | However, there are some issues with AppArmor interfering with StrongSwan operation, that we're trying to resolve (latest fix may work). | 15:11 |
| pc_m | We should all try it and see if it works well (I plan to today and tomorrow), and comment on review. | 15:11 |
| xuhanp | pc_m, I noticed that. will give it a try. | 15:11 |
| pc_m | #action all to try StrongSwan implementation and comment on review. | 15:12 |
| pc_m | #link https://review.openstack.org/144391 | 15:12 |
| pc_m | On functional tests... | 15:12 |
| pc_m | The check-neutron-vpnaas-dsvm-functional was added to check queue (non-voting). | 15:13 |
| pc_m | However, due to a acccidental reversion, it is back to experimental. For now, one can do 'check experimental' to run. | 15:13 |
| xuhanp | good to know | 15:14 |
| pc_m | Once 154487 is upstreamed the tests should run on all commits (non-voting) again. | 15:14 |
| pc_m | Should be today, I hope. | 15:14 |
| pc_m | Once the tests are working reliably, we'll make them voting. | 15:14 |
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| pc_m | If you have any functional tests, please push them up (or update them, if already out for review). | 15:15 |
| pc_m | Any other questions on functional tests? | 15:16 |
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| pc_m | #topic Bugs | 15:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: vpnaas)" | 15:16 | |
| pc_m | Here's the current list: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron-vpnaas,n,z | 15:16 |
| pc_m | Please sign up and review, especially the StrongSwan review. | 15:17 |
| pc_m | Anyone have specific bugs they want to discuss? | 15:17 |
| pc_m | xuhanp: Thanks for offering to try out the StrongSwan implementation (above). We can really use more eyes on this. | 15:19 |
| xuhanp | pc_m, sure thing | 15:19 |
| pc_m | #topic Open Discussion | 15:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: vpnaas)" | 15:20 | |
| pc_m | Anyone have anything to discuss. | 15:20 |
| pc_m | ? | 15:20 |
| xuhanp | pc_m, I have a question to ask. | 15:20 |
| pc_m | xuhanp: go ahead | 15:20 |
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| xuhanp | Do we have any plan to support functions like GRE over IPSec or VTI over IPSec? | 15:20 |
| xuhanp | we have some requirement to connect two clouds by this kind of tunnels. | 15:21 |
| pc_m | xuhanp: None that I know of. At least no one has proposed any blueprints. | 15:21 |
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| xuhanp | do you think I can propose that if I have some idea? | 15:22 |
| xuhanp | maybe starting with discussing in mail list? | 15:22 |
| pc_m | xuhanp: For some previous proposals, Neutron cores have suggested they be developed outside of OpenStack (e.g. StackForge), due to low community interest. | 15:22 |
| pc_m | xuhanp: Yeah, you may want to start a discussion to gauge community interest. | 15:23 |
| pc_m | If enough interest, you could do a blueprint, if not, you can decide to develop out of tree. | 15:23 |
| xuhanp | pc_m, do you have an example of previous discussion? I am not sure what kind of features should be developed outside. | 15:23 |
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| pc_m | I don't have a link handy, but the Edge VPN was discussed and decided to be developed outside. There is a stackforge repo set up for that feature. | 15:24 |
| xuhanp | I see. thanks for the information! | 15:25 |
| xuhanp | I will try the mail list discussion first then | 15:25 |
| pc_m | Manif mentioned in last meeting. Spec is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152377/ | 15:26 |
| pc_m | You can look at some of the older logs for this team and there have been some links and discussions. | 15:26 |
| pc_m | Yeah, may be good to gauge interest in the community. | 15:27 |
| xuhanp | cool. Will do! | 15:27 |
| pc_m | If there is, then it can be worked on in-tree, if not, it can be worked as StackForge by those interested and tied into OpenStack. | 15:28 |
| pc_m | That's the path Edge VPN is going. | 15:28 |
| xuhanp | got you. thanks for the advice! | 15:29 |
| pc_m | np | 15:29 |
| pc_m | Anything else to discuss? | 15:29 |
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| pc_m | OK, it's a wrap! | 15:30 |
| pc_m | #endmeeting | 15:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:30 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 10 15:30:55 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vpnaas/2015/vpnaas.2015-02-10-15.05.html | 15:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vpnaas/2015/vpnaas.2015-02-10-15.05.txt | 15:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vpnaas/2015/vpnaas.2015-02-10-15.05.log.html | 15:31 |
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| dougwig | o/ | 15:57 |
| johnsom | Morning | 15:58 |
| TrevorV | o/ | 15:58 |
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| dougwig | #startmeeting neutron lbaas | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 10 16:00:01 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dougwig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron lbaas)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_lbaas' | 16:00 |
| dougwig | #topic roll call | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: neutron lbaas)" | 16:00 | |
| dougwig | morning all | 16:00 |
| johnsom | o/ | 16:00 |
| ajmiller | o/ | 16:00 |
| TrevorV | o./ | 16:00 |
| dougwig | agenda: | 16:00 |
| dougwig | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/LBaaS#Agenda | 16:00 |
| TrevorV | (the dot is my bicep) | 16:00 |
| blogan_ | hi | 16:00 |
| xgerman | o/ | 16:00 |
| dougwig | no wonder it's so tiny | 16:00 |
| blogan_ | zing | 16:01 |
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| blogan_ | one day ill spend enough time to remove this scarlet underscore | 16:01 |
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| [1]evgenyf | Hi | 16:01 |
| jorgem | o/ | 16:01 |
| dougwig | blogan_: run a supported OS. | 16:01 |
| kobis | hi | 16:02 |
| sballe__ | o/ | 16:02 |
| blogan_ | dougwig: bwahaha | 16:02 |
| dougwig | #topic Announcements | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron lbaas)" | 16:03 | |
| jorgem | blogan almost didn't make it in today | 16:03 |
| jorgem | he got towed again | 16:03 |
| kobis | towed again? | 16:03 |
| kobis | nah.. | 16:03 |
| xgerman | ? | 16:03 |
| johnsom | Hahaha, seriously? | 16:03 |
| ajmiller | togan? | 16:03 |
| ajmiller | towgan? | 16:03 |
| johnsom | towgan | 16:03 |
| jorgem | nah jk. I with though lol | 16:03 |
| dougwig | just one today from me - for anyone not at the mid-cycle, lbaas v2, the non-agent driver, and the CLI merged. there's a devstack review out, so deploying and testing v2 is simpler than ever. | 16:03 |
| TrevorV | towgan towgan towgan | 16:03 |
| jorgem | wish* | 16:03 |
| jorgem | sorry had to :) | 16:04 |
| jorgem | anyways sorry for the distraction | 16:04 |
| dougwig | the interface for vendor drivers is likely pretty solid now, so i'd encourage driver submissions. | 16:04 |
| jorgem | carry on | 16:04 |
| sballe__ | dougwig: +1 | 16:04 |
| dougwig | jorgem: i'm at home surrounded by screaming kids, so i didn't even notice. :) | 16:04 |
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| dougwig | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153079/ | 16:05 |
| dougwig | ^^ the devstack review | 16:05 |
| sballe__ | dougwig: What drivers do we think we have in the pipeline? a10. Who else? | 16:05 |
| xgerman | dougwig - your's scream, too | 16:05 |
| xgerman | ? | 16:05 |
| dougwig | a10, brocade, vmware, radware, netscaler | 16:05 |
| dougwig | and the agent driver | 16:05 |
| sballe__ | cool thx | 16:05 |
| [1]evgenyf | radware driver is close to review submit | 16:05 |
| kobis | vmware will be in within a couple of weeks | 16:06 |
| sballe__ | great | 16:06 |
| kobis | with the ci | 16:06 |
| dougwig | yes, version relevant ci is mandatory. | 16:06 |
| dougwig | any other announcements today? | 16:06 |
| ajmiller | There was a comment yesterday about the devstack review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153079/ I would like to discuss when we have a chance. | 16:07 |
| blogan_ | i saw taht | 16:07 |
| dougwig | ok, let's hit that in open discussion | 16:07 |
| ajmiller | OK | 16:07 |
| dougwig | or, let's do it now. | 16:07 |
| dougwig | #topic devstack changes | 16:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "devstack changes (Meeting topic: neutron lbaas)" | 16:07 | |
| dougwig | ajmiller, you have the floor | 16:07 |
| ajmiller | OK | 16:07 |
| ajmiller | The comment is that we should split LBaaS out of the main devstack code and into a plugin. | 16:08 |
| dougwig | i agree with him, but the current mechanism doesn't work to be fully external. i'll respond on the review. | 16:08 |
| ajmiller | I started to look into the mechanics of that yesterday, and yes, I'm not sure we can fully take advantage of that mechanism. | 16:08 |
| blogan_ | does that mean the lbaas code will not live in devstack? | 16:08 |
| ajmiller | I to have some work in my repo to better modularize my changes. | 16:08 |
| dougwig | (commenting done) | 16:09 |
| ajmiller | They are working on a mechanism to deliver plugins as part of the product repo, | 16:09 |
| ajmiller | Thanks Doug, you summed up the questions well. | 16:09 |
| blogan_ | so the lbaas devstack plugin woudl live in neutron-lbaas? | 16:09 |
| dougwig | it means the devstack code lives in devstack/ in our repo, which i vastly prefer, but i think devstack will need an alias file of service tokens to external plugin locations, or something, because all the CI right now can only handle services, not plugins. | 16:09 |
| rm_work | ^^ barbican does this | 16:10 |
| blogan_ | ah okay, yeah id prefer it living in our repo for obvious reasons | 16:10 |
| ajmiller | What I hope we can do is to get the V2 changes merged soon, then do the full plugin work in the (near) future | 16:10 |
| blogan_ | that makes sense | 16:10 |
| dougwig | rm_work: barbican also has an extras.d hook to solve the services token issue. | 16:10 |
| rm_work | yeah | 16:11 |
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| rm_work | I mean Barbican already does the whole "devstack plugin in-tree" thing | 16:11 |
| rm_work | but yeah, also the extras.d hook | 16:11 |
| rm_work | https://gist.github.com/rm-you/6feacb91182f5c011018#file-setup-sh-L11-L13 | 16:12 |
| dougwig | i expect ajmiller has enough to go on here, or is there more to discuss? | 16:13 |
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| dougwig | #topic Summit talks | 16:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Summit talks (Meeting topic: neutron lbaas)" | 16:13 | |
| ajmiller | dougwig, this is enough to get me moving forward | 16:13 |
| dougwig | we have two submitted: | 16:13 |
| dougwig | https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2015/call-for-speakers/TalkDetails/2703 | 16:13 |
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| dougwig | https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2015/call-for-speakers/TalkDetails/3093 | 16:13 |
| blogan_ | can people see those? | 16:13 |
| xgerman | I can't | 16:13 |
| blogan_ | i didnt think so | 16:14 |
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| dougwig | if you have items you'd like to present or demo during either, ping myself or brandon and we'll see about integrating. i'd like to demo v2 with octavia 0.5 at vancouver. | 16:14 |
| sballe__ | I can't | 16:14 |
| dougwig | oh, darn. | 16:14 |
| dougwig | i'll get their contents into etherpads for folks to tweak on later today, then. | 16:14 |
| sballe__ | +1 | 16:14 |
| dougwig | here are the talk titles: | 16:14 |
| sballe__ | I like the demo idea. | 16:14 |
| dougwig | Load Balancing as a Service, Kilo and Beyond | 16:14 |
| dougwig | Neutron mitosis and the L4-7 services roadmaps | 16:14 |
| xgerman | demos are great | 16:14 |
| dougwig | i only want one of those talks to get selected, not both. :) | 16:15 |
| blogan_ | what are you going to do if they both get selected? | 16:15 |
| sballe__ | We'll figured it out once they both are selected :-) | 16:15 |
| sballe__ | Just in time worruing | 16:15 |
| sballe__ | worrying | 16:15 |
| dougwig | there is a selection process after voting, so i'll make my preference known. | 16:16 |
| blogan_ | i like it! | 16:16 |
| xgerman | agreed | 16:16 |
| dougwig | worst case, we have two talks. | 16:16 |
| dougwig | this topic leads to.... | 16:16 |
| dougwig | #topic Design talks | 16:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Design talks (Meeting topic: neutron lbaas)" | 16:16 | |
| dougwig | be thinking about whether we have anything that needs design summit time. | 16:16 |
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| xgerman | we still didn't resolve the status me thinks | 16:17 |
| xgerman | nor sharing | 16:17 |
| dougwig | i know of one, which is how to resolve the inter-dependency mess between neutron and the services (and decomposed repos) and how to test them coherently and/or split out a real neutron library. | 16:17 |
| blogan_ | sharing entities, L7 maybe (if not finalized) | 16:17 |
| blogan_ | xgerman: pretty sure we did, status tree | 16:17 |
| xgerman | ok | 16:18 |
| sballe__ | I would like for us to get moving on the flavor again | 16:18 |
| dougwig | we might want a smaller session just for brainstorming next features. | 16:18 |
| sballe__ | dougwig: I like that idea | 16:18 |
| dougwig | sballe__: that's out for review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139758/ | 16:18 |
| dougwig | (flavors) | 16:18 |
| dougwig | we'll bring this topic up again. i just wanted to highlight this so that folks start thinking about anything that needs high-bandwidth face time. | 16:19 |
| sballe__ | dougwig: great! way ahead of me :-) I thought it had been put on the back burner. Will review | 16:19 |
| dougwig | sballe__: it's approved for kilo, assuming I can get it through. | 16:19 |
| blogan_ | c0ffee_flavors.py (the last characters of the migration) makes me chuckle | 16:20 |
| dougwig | ok, moving on. | 16:20 |
| dougwig | that was a eugene easter egg. | 16:20 |
| dougwig | :) | 16:20 |
| dougwig | #topic v2 next steps | 16:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "v2 next steps (Meeting topic: neutron lbaas)" | 16:20 | |
| kobis | :) | 16:20 |
| dougwig | great progress at the mid-cycle. next steps are the agent driver, tis, l7, and vendor drivers. anything blocking anybody in any of those areas? | 16:20 |
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| dougwig | i think the owners are phil, adam/evgeny, evgeny, and misc. | 16:21 |
| dougwig | respectively | 16:21 |
| xgerman | I am also wondering how we can help the owners... | 16:21 |
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| dougwig | i'd suggest following up with them directly. if you don't get a response, ping myself or brandon. | 16:22 |
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| xgerman | k | 16:22 |
| dougwig | but please do. | 16:22 |
| dougwig | anyone have anything else to discuss about v2 progress? | 16:22 |
| ajmiller | I should have a WIP review for the provider extention to the create API soon. | 16:23 |
| TrevorV | Oh, uh, we're still in progress with the tempest tests | 16:23 |
| [1]evgenyf | l7 is ready for review, please review | 16:23 |
| [1]evgenyf | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148232/5 | 16:23 |
| TrevorV | The real troublesome parts have been actually running the tests. Devstack is a frustrating beast ha ha | 16:23 |
| [1]evgenyf | I will also push TLS with some comments handled today or tomorow | 16:24 |
| [1]evgenyf | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145085/17 | 16:24 |
| dougwig | [1]evgenyf: great. | 16:24 |
| jorgem | Still working on the agent manager code #WIP | 16:24 |
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| dougwig | are those going to need to change with the agent driver, or is that part of the code shared? (blogan_ ) | 16:24 |
| [1]evgenyf | radware driver commit tomorrow | 16:24 |
| rm_work | [1]evgenyf: so are you on those two commits 100% now? should I leave you to it? | 16:24 |
| dougwig | by those, i mean the tis and l7 reviews | 16:24 |
| rm_work | [1]evgenyf: I had been working out bugs in your TLS stuff during the midcycle while you were on L7, but seems that you've been committing work on TLS again | 16:25 |
| blogan_ | im going to try and get the code shared, but the tls and l7 implementatiosn will need to update the sync driver if they get in before the agent does | 16:25 |
| [1]evgenyf | rm_work: it's almous done. L7 is waiting for reviews, TLS will be tomorrow. Will see how it's going with comments | 16:25 |
| sballe__ | rm_work: can you point me to the review for TLS? | 16:26 |
| sballe__ | oh sorry just saw it | 16:26 |
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| [1]evgenyf | sballe__: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145085/ | 16:26 |
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| dougwig | sballe__: this is a handy link: | 16:26 |
| dougwig | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/(openstack/neutron-lbaas)+status:open,n,z | 16:26 |
| xgerman | I put it on top of the review etherpad | 16:27 |
| xgerman | (the old link failed) | 16:27 |
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| dougwig | #topic Open Discussion | 16:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: neutron lbaas)" | 16:28 | |
| dougwig | anything anyone wants to discuss? | 16:28 |
| ajmiller | Thanks to the Rackspace people for the hospitality last week! | 16:28 |
| kobis | +1! | 16:29 |
| rm_work | Castellan appears to be possibly moving along again, I hope we can get that wrapped up by the end of NEXT week, and then hopefully in the following weeks before the Kilo-3 freeze I can get it swapped in for the CertManager stuff | 16:29 |
| rm_work | though my time on Neutron-lbaas and Octavia has been significantly reduced due to internal scheduling | 16:29 |
| dougwig | ajmiller: +1, though -0.01 for no CEC. :) | 16:29 |
| dougwig | they spoiled us last time. | 16:29 |
| rm_work | I will still have time to do reviews, but that may be it for a while | 16:29 |
| blogan_ | you still got all the benefits of the CEC for 3 days! | 16:29 |
| blogan_ | and you had the added entertainment value of me getting towed | 16:30 |
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| dougwig | the biggest benefit was seeing you towed. | 16:30 |
| johnsom | Actually it was watching you drive by a parking spot and then get towed | 16:30 |
| rm_work | ^^ this | 16:30 |
| rm_work | I would have felt bad otherwise | 16:30 |
| dougwig | ok, any real topics, or are we done today? | 16:31 |
| pc_m | I added coverage test enabling for LBaaS repo: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154208/. Question: Do you want tests included in coverage, by default? | 16:31 |
| blogan_ | :( | 16:31 |
| dougwig | pc_m: what's the difference? i note that neutron excludes them. | 16:31 |
| pc_m | It just gives tells you if all the unit tests are actually being invoked. | 16:32 |
| pc_m | Not a big difference. | 16:32 |
| dougwig | i'm good either way. | 16:32 |
| pc_m | I have it set to include UTs for VPN repo. | 16:32 |
| pc_m | Easy to comment out or uncomment so I'm fine either way. | 16:33 |
| pc_m | If there's a preference, I can do it as desired. | 16:33 |
| blogan_ | does that get run as part of tox? | 16:33 |
| dougwig | i don't have a preference, i was just curious as to the difference. | 16:33 |
| dougwig | tox -e coverage | 16:33 |
| pc_m | blogan_: Yeah, you do "tox -e cover" | 16:33 |
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| blogan_ | okay i dont have a preference either | 16:34 |
| pc_m | Does coverage testing of production code (and, if not omitted, test code) | 16:34 |
| blogan_ | looks like its your call pc_m | 16:35 |
| pc_m | I commented the omission out for VPN, that way it show all coverage. I can ignore the test files when looking at report, or uncomment the omit line to exclude the test area. | 16:35 |
| pc_m | blogan_: OK. I'll push out the updated patch and do the same as VPN repo. | 16:35 |
| dougwig | pc_m: thank you! | 16:36 |
| blogan_ | pc_m: thanks! | 16:36 |
| dougwig | any other topics today? | 16:36 |
| pc_m | np. Pushing in a few mins. | 16:36 |
| dougwig | ok, thanks folks! | 16:37 |
| rm_work | o/ | 16:37 |
| xgerman | o/ | 16:37 |
| dougwig | #endmeeting | 16:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:37 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 10 16:37:23 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_lbaas/2015/neutron_lbaas.2015-02-10-16.00.html | 16:37 |
| blogan_ | bye! | 16:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_lbaas/2015/neutron_lbaas.2015-02-10-16.00.txt | 16:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_lbaas/2015/neutron_lbaas.2015-02-10-16.00.log.html | 16:37 |
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