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| sigmavirus24 | Hey glancers, everyone ready to start? | 14:00 |
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| kragniz | totes mcgoats | 14:01 |
| sigmavirus24 | #startmeeting Glance | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 29 14:01:24 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sigmavirus24. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:01 |
| sigmavirus24 | So it looks like today is going to be a very light day on participation and topics to discuss | 14:01 |
| kragniz | I don't think many are here | 14:02 |
| sigmavirus24 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:02 |
| sigmavirus24 | #topic TODOs/Updates | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "TODOs/Updates (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:02 | |
| sigmavirus24 | Anyone have anything to discuss for this? | 14:02 |
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| flaper87 | o/ | 14:02 |
| * flaper87 thought there was no meeting today | 14:03 | |
| sigmavirus24 | No worries flaper87 | 14:03 |
| sigmavirus24 | Any TODOs/Updates from you flaper87 ? | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | the client patch landed (with the `--limit` fix) | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | I need to add it to the to-release list of things | 14:03 |
| sigmavirus24 | Good | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | other than that, I don't have many updates. I'd like us to talk a bit about what we'll do with changes-since | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | since we need to make a final decision there | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | and | 14:04 |
| kragniz | flaper87: probably wait until more people are around for that | 14:04 |
| sigmavirus24 | Come back around to that? | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | just in case some folks missed this: We decieded to push the glance v1->v2 changes to L | 14:04 |
| sigmavirus24 | (It won't be long I promise) | 14:04 |
| sigmavirus24 | flaper87: in Nova you mean :) | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | yup | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | kragniz: sigmavirus24 yup, we definitely need more ppl for that | 14:05 |
| * flaper87 proposed the push back himself | 14:05 | |
| * flaper87 sometimes doesn't understand himself | 14:05 | |
| flaper87 | but oh well. | 14:05 |
| sigmavirus24 | On my end the policy spec implementation is going slower than I expected but I think I'm picking up momentum. Still not sure it'll be ready for k-2 though | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | other than that, I think I'm ok | 14:05 |
| sigmavirus24 | Also I still have feedback from stevelle and zhiyan to address on it | 14:06 |
| sigmavirus24 | kragniz: any updates you'd like ot include? | 14:06 |
| kragniz | for swift retry spec, I'm going to wait for feedback from stuart before pushing any new changes | 14:06 |
| sigmavirus24 | Seems fair kragniz | 14:06 |
| kragniz | that's about it | 14:07 |
| sigmavirus24 | #topic Reviews/Bugs/Releases | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Reviews/Bugs/Releases (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:07 | |
| sigmavirus24 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148575 | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | I think we should just use oslo.middleware | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | I've been meaning to get back to that review | 14:07 |
| kragniz | I feel quite strongly we should not create more code duplication | 14:08 |
| sigmavirus24 | So that healthcheck middleware that jokke_ implemented (I pinged him but he's still not here) was cribbed mostly from swift but oslo.middleware now has a heftier implementation available | 14:08 |
| * flaper87 has no idea what heftier means | 14:08 | |
| sigmavirus24 | I think jokke_ is thoroughly set against that, so if it is the decision of the glance team to use oslo.middleware, someone else may need to implement it | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137416/ <- these babies need some love | 14:09 |
| sigmavirus24 | flaper87: the oslo.middleware version does a lot more (database checks, and other checks that I'm forgetting) | 14:09 |
| sigmavirus24 | It's a lot more code | 14:09 |
| kragniz | flaper87: bigger | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | ah ok, nice | 14:09 |
| * flaper87 learnt something today | 14:09 | |
| flaper87 | (as every other day) | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | yeah, I agree | 14:09 |
| sigmavirus24 | flaper87: I agree. That review is wonderful | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | I'm with y'all re using oslo.middleware right away | 14:10 |
| sigmavirus24 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150992/ | 14:10 |
| sigmavirus24 | If anyone was having issues with grenade yesterday, you can recheck now I think | 14:10 |
| sigmavirus24 | That review was merged and pinned oslo.vmware to <0.9.0 because of another requirements clash | 14:10 |
| kragniz | awesome | 14:10 |
| * sigmavirus24 is thinking the oslo libraries should all be capped in stable/juno at this point maybe | 14:11 | |
| flaper87 | nice, the taskflow patch got stuck on that | 14:11 |
| sigmavirus24 | That's the second release this week that broke the gate | 14:11 |
| sigmavirus24 | (With the exact same problem too) | 14:11 |
| kragniz | sigmavirus24: wasn't there talk of stable oslo branches? | 14:11 |
| sigmavirus24 | Oh one other review I want people to look at while I have you all gathered here | 14:11 |
| * kragniz may be making things up | 14:11 | |
| sigmavirus24 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80178/ | 14:12 |
| sigmavirus24 | kragniz: I don't think so. The main discussion around oslo has been py26 compat | 14:12 |
| kragniz | okay | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | Btw, there are some glance_store patches that also need discussion | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | For example: remove cinder? remove py26 support? remove gridfs ? | 14:13 |
| sigmavirus24 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137310/ | 14:13 |
| sigmavirus24 | ^ Remove py26 support | 14:13 |
| sigmavirus24 | (I was just looking for that one flaper87 :)) | 14:13 |
| flaper87 | For the latest two, I think we pretty much agreed on doing that | 14:13 |
| flaper87 | the first one, however, needs some extra discussion | 14:13 |
| kragniz | we can't remove py26 support yet, right? | 14:13 |
| flaper87 | kragniz: not sure, we did it in glance and all server projects | 14:14 |
| sigmavirus24 | kragniz: that was my impression, yes | 14:14 |
| sigmavirus24 | flaper87: so the server projects are fine | 14:14 |
| sigmavirus24 | The libraries are not iirc | 14:14 |
| kragniz | since juno supports py26 and depends on py26 | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | oslo libraris not, yes. | 14:14 |
| sigmavirus24 | The libraries are used at least in juno | 14:14 |
| kragniz | glance_store, rather | 14:14 |
| sigmavirus24 | flaper87: unless we're capping stable/juno's requirement on glance_store (or have already done so) | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | that was the goal, AFAICT | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | to cap stable branches | 14:15 |
| dhellmann | sigmavirus24, flaper87 : there is work going on now to cap all of the juno requirements | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | lemme dig more on that | 14:15 |
| dhellmann | jogo and dtroyer are working on it | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | awesome | 14:15 |
| * flaper87 attended that session | 14:15 | |
| kragniz | cool | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | but my memory is terrible | 14:15 |
| sigmavirus24 | flaper87: https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/stable/juno/requirements.txt#L60 | 14:15 |
| dhellmann | and I'll look into an oslo.middleware release for you today or monday | 14:15 |
| sigmavirus24 | dhellmann: good to know | 14:15 |
| sigmavirus24 | Thanks | 14:15 |
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| kragniz | so if glance_store is capped on stable, we can remove py26? | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | sigmavirus24: I think we can cap glance_sotre for juno after the next release | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | kragniz: ^ | 14:16 |
| sigmavirus24 | kragniz: that seems the reasonable way to do it | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | the next glance_store release, that is | 14:16 |
| kragniz | okay | 14:16 |
| sigmavirus24 | flaper87: right | 14:16 |
| sigmavirus24 | And currently https://github.com/openstack/glance_store/blob/master/requirements.txt#L11 won't bite us :) | 14:16 |
| sigmavirus24 | (That's been the requirement causing problems for oslo.{vmware,messaging}) | 14:17 |
| flaper87 | sigmavirus24: we can actually remove that requirement | 14:17 |
| flaper87 | I'll do that | 14:17 |
| flaper87 | we needed it for a different oslo-inc lib | 14:17 |
| flaper87 | we now just have context | 14:17 |
| sigmavirus24 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144631/ | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | (which we can remove later since oslo.context exists) | 14:18 |
| sigmavirus24 | ^ That should be an easy review to workflow | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | or was that in utils? ARGH, my memory sucks | 14:18 |
| sigmavirus24 | flaper87: you do too much :) | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | sigmavirus24: are you abusing my +2 powers right now? | 14:18 |
| * flaper87 has to be careful | 14:18 | |
| flaper87 | approved the last one | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | sigmavirus24: and yes, I should realllyy do fewer things | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | :( | 14:19 |
| sigmavirus24 | flaper87: I may be | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | lol | 14:19 |
| sigmavirus24 | Any other reviews to point out specifically? | 14:20 |
| kragniz | if we're approving namespace changes, this would be nice to have in: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145238/ | 14:20 |
| kragniz | since a few others depend on it | 14:20 |
| sigmavirus24 | flaper87: while we have you trapped here ;) | 14:20 |
| flaper87 | LOL | 14:21 |
| flaper87 | kragniz: I'll take a look at that one in a bit | 14:22 |
| kragniz | flaper87: cool | 14:22 |
| kragniz | no rush | 14:22 |
| sigmavirus24 | That whole topic needs some review love | 14:22 |
| sigmavirus24 | :) | 14:22 |
| kragniz | yup | 14:22 |
| * kragniz isn't having fun with porting glance to oslo_log | 14:22 | |
| flaper87 | it's never fun but needed | 14:23 |
| sigmavirus24 | As for bugs | 14:23 |
| sigmavirus24 | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance-store/+bug/1415679 | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | I'd really like to understand why s3 depends on eventlet | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | oh lord | 14:23 |
| sigmavirus24 | That's one I didn't try to replicate last night but I added glance-store to it because it seemed most likely to be there | 14:23 |
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| sigmavirus24 | Seemed like one we might also want to debug before kilo is finally released | 14:25 |
| flaper87 | mmh, yeah | 14:25 |
| sigmavirus24 | Anyone have other bugs/blueprints/reviews? | 14:25 |
| flaper87 | nope | 14:25 |
| kragniz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1412798 | 14:25 |
| kragniz | can anyone reproduce this? | 14:25 |
| sigmavirus24 | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance-store/+bug/1415679 | 14:25 |
| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/151261 | 14:26 |
| flaper87 | fresh ^ | 14:26 |
| sigmavirus24 | kragniz: I haven't tried yet, but I will | 14:26 |
| kragniz | sigmavirus24: thanks | 14:26 |
| sigmavirus24 | Anything else? | 14:27 |
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| kragniz | not from me | 14:27 |
| kragniz | I think | 14:27 |
| sigmavirus24 | #topic Open Discussion | 14:28 |
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| sigmavirus24 | Doesn't seem like many more people showed up flaper87 but if you still want us to discuss that topic, we might as well | 14:28 |
| flaper87 | nah, it can wait | 14:29 |
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| sigmavirus24 | (changes-since == that topic) | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | I'd like to go through git-log and read the logs | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | probably there's some more info in those reviews | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | that will give us more context to make a final decision | 14:29 |
| kragniz | oh, one quick thing | 14:30 |
| kragniz | do we want hacking checks for the new oslo imports? | 14:31 |
| kragniz | I see nova and neutron are adding them | 14:31 |
| flaper87 | sure | 14:31 |
| sigmavirus24 | kragniz: crib those from nova? | 14:31 |
| flaper87 | why not | 14:31 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:31 |
| kragniz | sigmavirus24: that's my thought | 14:31 |
| kragniz | :P | 14:31 |
| sigmavirus24 | Before we do that | 14:31 |
| sigmavirus24 | dhellmann: won't the old namespaces give deprecation warnings on newer versions of the oslo.* libraries? | 14:31 |
| kragniz | sigmavirus24: yes, they do | 14:32 |
| sigmavirus24 | I wonder if it'd be easier to catch those warnings in tests and fail if they're raised as an alternative method | 14:32 |
| kragniz | hmm | 14:33 |
| dhellmann | you'd have to configure that particular warning to be handled as an error | 14:33 |
| dhellmann | once for each library, which isn't a lot | 14:34 |
| kragniz | I think a simple regex hacking rule would be fine | 14:35 |
| sigmavirus24 | I'm also wondering if there's value in having tests fail vs having tox -epep8 fail =P | 14:35 |
| kragniz | (nova's proposed new rule: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146294/20/nova/hacking/checks.py) | 14:35 |
| sigmavirus24 | (gerrit is really slow again today for me) | 14:36 |
| sigmavirus24 | kragniz: yeah looks like it should work | 14:37 |
| kragniz | it's short and simple | 14:37 |
| kragniz | but yeah, that's not a pressing concern | 14:37 |
| sigmavirus24 | Should we close the meeting early? | 14:38 |
| kragniz | just checking no one morally opposed it | 14:39 |
| kragniz | sure | 14:39 |
| kragniz | I don't think we have much more to talk about | 14:39 |
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| sigmavirus24 | flaper87: objections? | 14:39 |
| flaper87 | nope | 14:39 |
| * flaper87 reads the backlog after saying nope | 14:39 | |
| flaper87 | so yeah, no objections | 14:40 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:40 |
| sigmavirus24 | #endmeeting | 14:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:40 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 29 14:40:22 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:40 |
| sigmavirus24 | Thanks yall | 14:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2015/glance.2015-01-29-14.01.html | 14:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2015/glance.2015-01-29-14.01.txt | 14:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2015/glance.2015-01-29-14.01.log.html | 14:40 |
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| kragniz | thanks for chairing, sigmavirus24 | 14:40 |
| sigmavirus24 | yw | 14:41 |
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| jokke_ | o/ | 15:06 |
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| sigmavirus24 | jokke_: you missed it. it was an hour earlier today :/ | 15:36 |
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| jokke_ | sigmavirus24: by the schedule it should have been at 1500 UTC | 15:37 |
| sigmavirus24 | jokke_: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 15:38 |
| sigmavirus24 | Thursday Jan 29 (14:00 UTC) | 15:38 |
| jokke_ | oh damn someone had added next week there on the list already | 15:39 |
| jokke_ | gr8 | 15:39 |
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| b3rnard0 | #startmeeting OpenStack Ansible Meeting | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 29 16:00:05 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is b3rnard0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible_meeting' | 16:00 |
| b3rnard0 | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-ansible#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 16:00 |
| b3rnard0 | #topic RollCall | 16:00 |
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| mattt | \o | 16:00 |
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| cloudnull | present | 16:00 |
| b3rnard0 | hello | 16:00 |
| rackertom | here | 16:01 |
| claco | hola | 16:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | yo | 16:01 |
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| hughsaunders | hey | 16:02 |
| odyssey4me | o/ | 16:02 |
| b3rnard0 | #topic What cherry-pick items do we need to sort out for icehouse/juno | 16:02 |
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| cloudnull | odyssey4me: you've been looking through the bp items . | 16:02 |
| b3rnard0 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/os-ansible-deployment,n,z | 16:03 |
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| cloudnull | do we have a good handle on what all needs to go in at this point. | 16:03 |
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| cloudnull | specifically in | 16:04 |
| cloudnull | #link https://launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+milestone/10.1.2 | 16:04 |
| odyssey4me | ok, anything that was targeted to a series should have a cherry-pick in flight | 16:04 |
| odyssey4me | except for those that aren't marked in-progress | 16:04 |
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| cloudnull | kk. | 16:05 |
| odyssey4me | those left either still have an unmerged patch waiting for review in master, or | 16:05 |
| odyssey4me | have conflicts/dependancies which need to be sorted out | 16:05 |
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| cloudnull | so with that we have a couple of high priority items : | 16:06 |
| cloudnull | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1415046 | 16:06 |
| odyssey4me | what hasn't been done is to trawl through all the bugs to see whether there are those which haven't yet been targeted at a milestone/series | 16:06 |
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| d34dh0r53 | #here | 16:07 |
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| cloudnull | ok so, if you have time today, let go through them and make sure we're not missing anything. | 16:07 |
| cloudnull | b3rnard0: action item. | 16:08 |
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| * cloudnull trawl through all the bugs | 16:08 | |
| b3rnard0 | #action cloudnull odyssey4me to go through bugs for targeting to milestones/series | 16:09 |
| cloudnull | anythine else we want to point out on "What cherry-pick items do we need to sort out for icehouse/juno" | 16:09 |
| odyssey4me | not from me | 16:10 |
| cloudnull | ok, moving on. | 16:10 |
| b3rnard0 | #topic Review action items from last week | 16:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review action items from last week (Meeting topic: OpenStack Ansible Meeting)" | 16:10 | |
| cloudnull | so andymccr is out but has anyone else taken a stab at "investigate why rsyslog container doesn't send swift logs issue" | 16:10 |
| cloudnull | this is related to d34dh0r53 To help andymccr on rsyslog issue | 16:10 |
| odyssey4me | yep - I've got that sorted out in the patches that have been merged into master | 16:10 |
| odyssey4me | it didn't affect icehouse as the way we created the folders & containers resulted in very permissive rights to the log files | 16:11 |
| cloudnull | odyssey4me: tagged to "juno" ? | 16:11 |
| odyssey4me | but for juno/master we changed that and rsyslog couldn't read some of the files | 16:11 |
| odyssey4me | those patches are all merged into both master and juno :) | 16:12 |
| odyssey4me | one outstanding patch for master which will need a backport: https://review.openstack.org/150483 | 16:12 |
| cloudnull | moving on to "Apsu Spike on F5 monitoring" | 16:12 |
| hughsaunders | Apsu now wears gloves while handling F5s? | 16:13 |
| Apsu | Gotta keep the fingers safe | 16:14 |
| cloudnull | Apsu you had any time to look into the f5 monitoring ? | 16:14 |
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| Apsu | cloudnull: Been stuck on the API SSL story, so not really. I looked into it some the other day, and am considering pushing towards oslo middlware | 16:15 |
| Apsu | For healthchecks that can be simple http status checks | 16:15 |
| Apsu | There's some design work out there for it already, just needs progress. | 16:16 |
| cloudnull | kk, so we'll carry that action item for now. | 16:16 |
| Apsu | The alternative is to somehow shoehorn performant JSON into the F5. | 16:16 |
| Apsu | Yeah, I have some good ideas for it. | 16:16 |
| b3rnard0 | #action Apsu Continue working on F5 monitoring spike | 16:16 |
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| cloudnull | so moving onto "cloudnull To target greater than wishlist next bugs into future milestones" | 16:17 |
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| cloudnull | which has been done a little bit but for our next sprint i believe we're going head long into gating so a lot of the wishlist items have been pushed for now. | 16:18 |
| cloudnull | i skipped - "mattt To backport https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1412762 into 10.1.3" | 16:18 |
| cloudnull | my bad. | 16:18 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull: I just sorted that out | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | :) | 16:19 |
| mattt | odyssey4me: the heat stuff ? | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | lol mattt nope - I just sorted out the bug targeting | 16:19 |
| mattt | ah! | 16:19 |
| b3rnard0 | #info cloudnull To target greater than wishlist next bugs into future milestones -- per cloudnull: which has been done a little bit but for our next sprint i believe we're going head long into gating so a lot of the wishlist items have been pushed for now. | 16:20 |
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| cloudnull | so moving on, the tempest bits will all be a focus of ours real soon, so the targeting "next" makes sense. | 16:21 |
| b3rnard0 | #topic Blueprints | 16:21 |
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| b3rnard0 | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/galaxy-roles | 16:21 |
| b3rnard0 | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/rackspace-namesake | 16:22 |
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| b3rnard0 | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/inventory-cleanup | 16:22 |
| b3rnard0 | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/dynamic-inventory-lib | 16:22 |
| cloudnull | we've been progressing on the genezied roles. and at the close of this sprint ill have a [WIP] to review. which I hope everyone will go pick on. | 16:22 |
| * odyssey4me nods | 16:23 | |
| cloudnull | is there anything that we want to talk about regarding these current BPs ? | 16:23 |
| claco | where would the maas bits fall? | 16:23 |
| odyssey4me | I've been testing it out and working through bits of it. It takes care of both the galaxy roles and rackspace-namesake blueprints nicely. | 16:23 |
| b3rnard0 | #info cloudnull:we've been progressing on the genezied roles. and at the close of this sprint ill have a [WIP] to review. which I hope everyone will go pick on. | 16:23 |
| cloudnull | they will be removed from the upstream stack . | 16:23 |
| claco | they could likely be removed entirely using the same tinkerings miguel is doing for the tab stuff | 16:23 |
| claco | seems like needs a bp proper to solidify that method | 16:24 |
| cloudnull | i'd like to see up move the plays / roles into the rpc-maas repo | 16:24 |
| odyssey4me | we'll need a volunteer to prepare a patch to convert rpc_support, maas and anything else rpc specific into a (or many) roles which can be installed by rpc after a standard os-ansible-deployment install | 16:24 |
| cloudnull | ^ was writing that | 16:25 |
| b3rnard0 | odyssey4me: do you have a voluntold-er in mind? | 16:25 |
| cloudnull | i think that we can build on what miguelgrinberg has done | 16:25 |
| odyssey4me | ideally anyone but cloudnull - we need the ansible love spread around :) | 16:26 |
| cloudnull | and do the same with rpc-support, rpc-maas and some of our rax specific scripts. | 16:26 |
| cloudnull | +9000 | 16:26 |
| cloudnull | i am happy to help but would love to see someone else take the lead on that. | 16:26 |
| claco | since he's not here to volunteer... I nominate miguelgrinberg | 16:27 |
| claco | :-) | 16:27 |
| odyssey4me | mattt would have been good, but is going on leave for two weeks from next week | 16:27 |
| cloudnull | claco I second | 16:27 |
| mattt | yeah i would happily take a stab but i'm only in mon/tue | 16:28 |
| b3rnard0 | #action miguelgrinberg to take the lead on: we'll need a volunteer to prepare a patch to convert rpc_support, maas and anything else rpc specific into a (or many) roles which can be installed by rpc after a standard os-ansible-deployment install | 16:28 |
| b3rnard0 | #action mattt will help miguelgrinberg before he leaves | 16:28 |
| cloudnull | the other bp worth talking about is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/dynamic-inventory-lib | 16:29 |
| mattt | :thumbsup: | 16:29 |
| cloudnull | i know palendae has commented on it. | 16:29 |
| palendae | Yep - no actual work done yet | 16:30 |
| cloudnull | but has anyone else thought about it? is it a good idea/investmetn? | 16:30 |
| cloudnull | do we care? | 16:30 |
| palendae | I think it'd be nice, but could probably wait to be done | 16:30 |
| mattt | i haven't read it so can't give any feedback | 16:30 |
| hughsaunders | I would like a tool to query the inventory - list all groups for example | 16:31 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull: I agree it'd be nice - but I think that should be a target for later. | 16:31 |
| hughsaunders | but not sure a DB is needed? | 16:31 |
| Apsu | cloudnull: Just read through it. Seems interesting as a starting point to the ultimate scaling/managing goal | 16:31 |
| b3rnard0 | #action mattt to read https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/dynamic-inventory-lib | 16:31 |
| Apsu | Also seems like a simple task to convert to a lib/wrap | 16:31 |
| odyssey4me | lol @ b3rnard0 | 16:31 |
| Apsu | The client tools using the lib/middleware connecting to storage/etc don't have to happen at the same time, obviously | 16:31 |
| hughsaunders | #inprogress matt reading https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/dynamic-inventory-lib | 16:31 |
| d34dh0r53 | haha | 16:32 |
| mattt | seems like something worth considering, but not sure if it's pressing in light of what we have to do at the minute | 16:32 |
| palendae | hughsaunders: I think the inventory-manage.py script is kind of that | 16:32 |
| palendae | But it's a little basic, I don't know that it can show groups or such | 16:32 |
| hughsaunders | #action hughsaunders to read inventory-manage.py | 16:32 |
| cloudnull | ok, so lets push it for now as a nice to have and we'll revisit it sometime in the future. | 16:33 |
| palendae | As I understood it, the DB was kind of an option | 16:33 |
| Apsu | Theory is to be more DRY, and coalesce all that intelligence into a library | 16:33 |
| palendae | Nothing we really *need* right now | 16:33 |
| Apsu | Then -manage.py can be simple lib calls | 16:33 |
| palendae | Yeah | 16:33 |
| odyssey4me | perhaps someone would like to volunteer putting together some sort of PoC? | 16:33 |
| b3rnard0 | odyssey4me: i see a career in management for you :-) | 16:34 |
| cloudnull | i nominate Apsu | 16:34 |
| mattt | b3rnard0: the people he worked with didn't, hence him being here now | 16:34 |
| odyssey4me | b3rnard0 them's fighting words :p | 16:34 |
| Apsu | I have thus been nomernaded | 16:34 |
| cloudnull | Apsu typie typie. make the go. | 16:34 |
| Apsu | typey typey | 16:34 |
| palendae | Link all that up to the F5 monitoring | 16:34 |
| b3rnard0 | #action Apsu perhaps someone would like to volunteer putting together some sort of PoC? | 16:35 |
| cloudnull | moving on to bugs if nobody has anything else to add to these items. | 16:35 |
| b3rnard0 | #topic Bugs | 16:35 |
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| b3rnard0 | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible | 16:35 |
| b3rnard0 | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bugs?field.searchtext=&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branc | 16:36 |
| b3rnard0 | hes=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on&orderby=-importance&start=0 | 16:36 |
| cloudnull | b3rnard0 king of the link | 16:36 |
| palendae | lol | 16:36 |
| cloudnull | are there any bugs that need to be addressed, that have not been prioritized? | 16:36 |
| b3rnard0 | my link failed | 16:36 |
| b3rnard0 | lol | 16:36 |
| Apsu | Yes, b3rnard0 not using a URL shortener. | 16:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | tinyurl ftw | 16:36 |
| cloudnull | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 16:36 |
| Apsu | High priority | 16:36 |
| b3rnard0 | #action b3rnard0 to read about link shorteners | 16:37 |
| hughsaunders | late comment: inventory management could be included in jasons support-ui? | 16:37 |
| palendae | hughsaunders: Possibly! Though that's rax-specific | 16:37 |
| cloudnull | hughsaunders: that might be an interesting take on that, but may be too rax specific | 16:38 |
| palendae | But inventory management doesn't have to be | 16:38 |
| odyssey4me | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1415411 I think is high importance | 16:39 |
| odyssey4me | we have a mix of dynamic worker determination and hard coded workers | 16:39 |
| odyssey4me | and some can be overridden | 16:39 |
| odyssey4me | it'd be ideal to have them all dynamically determined, but also to allow them to be overridden by user variables | 16:40 |
| cloudnull | that sounds like a sensible change. | 16:40 |
| cloudnull | lets target that to juno . | 16:40 |
| claco | the only other issue outstanding I can think of is the oslo.messaging issues | 16:41 |
| odyssey4me | Apsu, I'll target https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1399382 to you | 16:41 |
| Apsu | odyssey4me: kk | 16:41 |
| cloudnull | ok oslo messaging. | 16:42 |
| cloudnull | specifically : https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1406629 | 16:42 |
| cloudnull | oslo messaging 1.4.1 will satisfy juno requirements. https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/stable/juno/global-requirements.txt#L66 | 16:43 |
| claco | the main q was around upgrades for me | 16:43 |
| claco | something code/person would need to force a downgrade of the package | 16:43 |
| cloudnull | but pinning to 1.4.1 will force just about everyone to downgrade. | 16:43 |
| claco | and is that really what we want, or do we ride it out until kilo? | 16:44 |
| odyssey4me | or is there a workaround we can implement to help manage the situation a bit? | 16:44 |
| cloudnull | from the looks of the project, if / when the patch to fix the uncontrollable q creation will not land until 1.6 + | 16:44 |
| cloudnull | and when it does , it may not be a compatible change with juno. | 16:45 |
| odyssey4me | perhaps there's a way to prefer 1.4.1, but leave a higher version in place if it's there? | 16:45 |
| odyssey4me | ie new deployments will be fine, but existing deployments will stay as they are | 16:46 |
| cloudnull | imo there are too many "if's" regarding oslo.messaging and hoping that a fix will come for juno. | 16:46 |
| odyssey4me | (and can be manually fixed) | 16:46 |
| cloudnull | if we pin to 1.4.1 existing deployments will already be satisifed because they have 1.5.1 installed. | 16:47 |
| Apsu | Could carry the patch. Dirty but if the timeframe is awful, I'm not sure there's a great workaround besides monitoring channels/connection and restarting services if it blows up | 16:47 |
| Apsu | Which is what our troubleshooting/monitoring strat currently is | 16:47 |
| cloudnull | if they add additional services / infra nodes they will be in a situation where oslo messaging 1.4.1 and 1.5.1 are installed. | 16:47 |
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| odyssey4me | how disruptive is it to downgrade from 1.5 to 1.4.1? | 16:48 |
| cloudnull | odyssey4me just about every os service will need to be restarted to use it. | 16:48 |
| Apsu | Just to downgrade the package, not very unless post-install scripts restart things for you. | 16:48 |
| Apsu | But ^ | 16:48 |
| Apsu | Gotta reload the python processes to use the new lib. | 16:49 |
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| cloudnull | ^ that one | 16:49 |
| odyssey4me | ok, and if that's done in sequence per controller - what's the problem? | 16:49 |
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| cloudnull | there should be no problem , however we'll need to outline that process for deployers | 16:50 |
| Apsu | I think cloudnull's point is more along the lines of the facts we have to A) keep track of what versions are where and B) schedule the maintenance to do so, in case things go bad | 16:50 |
| cloudnull | as a release note | 16:50 |
| odyssey4me | yeah - I'm definitely thinking a doc note | 16:50 |
| Apsu | Which in the non-Rackspace world is just another facet of maintenance risk management. | 16:50 |
| odyssey4me | and we should pin to 1.4.1 | 16:50 |
| odyssey4me | with the removal of all the rax stuff, we'll start getting new entrant users - better that they start on a good foot | 16:51 |
| odyssey4me | we could pretty easily put together an 'upgrade' play to handle upgrades between major/minor versions | 16:51 |
| Apsu | Should look into the mechanism of apt pinning/preferences for pinning to a lower version unless it's a downgrade. | 16:51 |
| Apsu | Pretty sure you can do that, I've just forgotten how | 16:52 |
| odyssey4me | Apsu we're not using apt for openstack code | 16:52 |
| Apsu | odyssey4me: Then your suggestion of only pinning lower unless it's a downgrade probably isn't possible as a generic method. | 16:52 |
| b3rnard0 | #info there should be no problem, however we'll need to outline that process for deployers as a release note | 16:52 |
| Apsu | But doc note, sure | 16:52 |
| cloudnull | ok, lets put together a plan to pin it to 1.4.1 and then write up process for upgrading. | 16:53 |
| cloudnull | b3rnard0 action item. | 16:53 |
| claco | sigmavirus24 had some pip to force a downgrade as well | 16:53 |
| claco | assuming this is a next target? | 16:53 |
| sigmavirus24 | claco: just `pip install oslo.messaging==1.4.1` will force a downgrade | 16:53 |
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| Apsu | yep | 16:53 |
| b3rnard0 | cloudnull: who is the volunteer | 16:53 |
| cloudnull | ill step through that and see what it entails. | 16:54 |
| cloudnull | and write up an doc note. | 16:54 |
| b3rnard0 | #action cloudnull plan to pin it to 1.4.1 and then write up process for upgrading. | 16:54 |
| cloudnull | ok, | 16:54 |
| cloudnull | so we have 5 min left. anything else someone wants to bring up ? | 16:55 |
| claco | I like cheese. | 16:55 |
| cloudnull | ^ is good | 16:55 |
| b3rnard0 | looks like we are pretty covered on the milestones with the earlier topics, so | 16:55 |
| odyssey4me | it appears that d34dh0r53 and sigmavirus24 have done work on the issue itself and can perhaps help | 16:55 |
| b3rnard0 | #topic Open discussion | 16:55 |
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| sigmavirus24 | odyssey4me: I was just there to help discover the issue. I also know how to make pip do bad things =P | 16:56 |
| odyssey4me | #action b3rnard0 to prepare his whiskey cabinet for emptying later this year | 16:56 |
| b3rnard0 | odyssey4me: hah, def dark shades of management | 16:56 |
| sigmavirus24 | I'll be happy to help though anyway I can | 16:56 |
| hughsaunders | odyssey4me: maybe b3rnard0 will share with us when we visit | 16:56 |
| Apsu | sigmavirus24: You're helping enough elsewhere, stop volunteering. | 16:56 |
| b3rnard0 | odyssey4me: i have whiskey cart sir, it's all the rage with your favorite group of people | 16:56 |
| Apsu | simma down! | 16:56 |
| cloudnull | so i'm calling it. | 16:57 |
| cloudnull | its been real its been nice | 16:57 |
| hughsaunders | thanks cloudnull | 16:57 |
| hughsaunders | laters | 16:57 |
| mattt | ttyl | 16:57 |
| odyssey4me | \o/ | 16:57 |
| b3rnard0 | thanks everyone | 16:57 |
| b3rnard0 | #endmeeting | 16:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:57 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 29 16:57:31 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:57 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2015/openstack_ansible_meeting.2015-01-29-16.00.html | 16:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2015/openstack_ansible_meeting.2015-01-29-16.00.txt | 16:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2015/openstack_ansible_meeting.2015-01-29-16.00.log.html | 16:57 |
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