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| nikhil_k | #startmeeting Glance | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 22 15:00:18 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is nikhil_k. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 15:00 |
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| kragniz | o/ | 15:00 |
| ativelkov | o/ | 15:00 |
| sigmavirus24 | o/ | 15:00 |
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| sigmavirus24 | f/goto bops | 15:00 |
| pennerc | o/ | 15:00 |
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| nikhil_k | Let's get started! | 15:01 |
| nikhil_k | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 15:01 |
| nikhil_k | #topic Updates | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Updates (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 15:01 | |
| TravT_ | o/ | 15:01 |
| nikhil_k | The updates this week are about | 15:01 |
| nikhil_k | 1. Mid-cycle meetup schedule .. | 15:01 |
| nikhil_k | 2. K-2 | 15:02 |
| nikhil_k | 3. K3 | 15:02 |
| nikhil_k | #topic Mid-cycle meetup schedule | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Mid-cycle meetup schedule (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 15:02 | |
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| nikhil_k | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-glance-mid-cycle-meetup | 15:02 |
| nikhil_k | if you have responded, you must have received an email. | 15:03 |
| nikhil_k | If anyone has any questions on the venue, directions, topics, schedule, food etc | 15:03 |
| nikhil_k | Please bring it up now or send an email to me | 15:04 |
| sigmavirus24 | How do remote participants request food? /kidding | 15:04 |
| nikhil_k | #action everyone: please respond to the long lunch proposal either way soon | 15:05 |
| nikhil_k | Next. | 15:05 |
| nikhil_k | #topic K-2 | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "K-2 (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 15:05 | |
| nikhil_k | https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/kilo-2 | 15:05 |
| nikhil_k | We've a long list of reviews | 15:06 |
| nikhil_k | Please take a look at them on priority. | 15:06 |
| nikhil_k | If the code has not major objections, and the spec is consistent with the code proposed it would be merged soon | 15:06 |
| nikhil_k | You must already have received some feedback | 15:07 |
| * sigmavirus24 hasn't on the Policy blueprint | 15:07 | |
| nikhil_k | #action: everyone, the k2 bugs (if not necessary) can moved to k3 as long as corresponding code does not look in a good shape. | 15:08 |
| nikhil_k | sigmavirus24: that one is dicey | 15:08 |
| nikhil_k | let's see how things go on others in next couple of days | 15:08 |
| nikhil_k | we need reviewers focused on small set of patches so that at least some get in | 15:08 |
| sigmavirus24 | Yeah, I figured mine would be okay for k-3 so I targetted there. Someone moved it to k-2 apparently | 15:09 |
| nikhil_k | If anyone is worried about a patch not getting in soon, this might be a good time to speak up (or about something getting in that shouldn't be) | 15:09 |
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| nikhil_k | sigmavirus24: it was me :P (optimistically prioritizing) | 15:10 |
| nikhil_k | Next. | 15:10 |
| nikhil_k | #topic K3 | 15:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "K3 (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 15:10 | |
| nikhil_k | The following features/additions/changes have been deferred to k3 | 15:11 |
| nikhil_k | 1. Catalog Service | 15:11 |
| nikhil_k | 2. Artifacts | 15:11 |
| nikhil_k | The deactivation of an image and policy changes *may* get in k2 . (due to some recent developments) | 15:12 |
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| nikhil_k | Other specs that have not received any significant reviews yet | 15:13 |
| nikhil_k | They are just hard to focus on given other major changes that we are planning to adopt this cycle. | 15:13 |
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| nikhil_k | That was the updated part. We can leave some time here for feedback. | 15:14 |
| nikhil_k | *update* | 15:14 |
| TravT_ | So, FYI, with catalog service, one of the tasks was to add notifications for metadefs. You and Brian thought we should break that out. So, I'll be putting up a spec on that. | 15:15 |
| sigmavirus24 | That review is already written, yes? | 15:15 |
| nikhil_k | TravT_: Sounds like a good idea. | 15:16 |
| sigmavirus24 | (The actual metadef notification code) | 15:16 |
| TravT_ | yes, kamil has a good start on it | 15:16 |
| krykowski | Yup, the implementation is ready (almost?) | 15:16 |
| nikhil_k | It's fine to start off sluggish and keep a watch on the bugs. | 15:16 |
| nikhil_k | Seems like metadef team has been actively resolving some as well as has been great with specs. | 15:17 |
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| nikhil_k | (Basically, we would be short of reviewers) | 15:17 |
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| nikhil_k | #topic Reviews/Bugs/Releases | 15:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Reviews/Bugs/Releases (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 15:18 | |
| nikhil_k | 1. Glance client | 15:18 |
| nikhil_k | https://launchpad.net/python-glanceclient/+milestone/v0.16.0 | 15:18 |
| nikhil_k | 2. glance_store | 15:18 |
| nikhil_k | https://launchpad.net/glance-store/+milestone/v0.1.11 | 15:18 |
| nikhil_k | Those are the planned ones | 15:18 |
| nikhil_k | kragniz: brought a good point that we should probably release SemVer style | 15:19 |
| mfedosin | what about sorting features for v2 in the client? | 15:19 |
| nikhil_k | So, yeah. Things like that - please mark it on the lp and | 15:19 |
| nikhil_k | leave a message to sigmavirus24 kragniz jokke_ zhiyan or me to add it to the trello board | 15:20 |
| nikhil_k | flapper87 too | 15:20 |
| nikhil_k | sigmavirus24: I kinda stole your topic, did you have anything more important to point out? | 15:20 |
| nikhil_k | (sorry about that) | 15:20 |
| sigmavirus24 | Nope. Just wanted to discuss it's progress :) | 15:21 |
| nikhil_k | Cool. Looks like reviews for the most part. | 15:21 |
| kragniz | I'm planning on writing release notes for client and store when some of the reviews are merged | 15:21 |
| nikhil_k | kragniz: +1 | 15:21 |
| sigmavirus24 | I thought PBR did that for us or something | 15:21 |
| kragniz | sigmavirus24: not release notes | 15:22 |
| nikhil_k | personal touch is always welcoming ;) | 15:22 |
| kragniz | sigmavirus24: we went over this with dhellmann :P | 15:22 |
| sigmavirus24 | PBR confuses me | 15:22 |
| * nikhil_k means that in the modest possible way | 15:22 | |
| nikhil_k | Who's next? | 15:24 |
| stpierre | is this a point where i can hop in? i need to find core reviewer(s) for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145223/ | 15:24 |
| nikhil_k | Feature request:- | 15:24 |
| nikhil_k | https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1411215 | 15:24 |
| sigmavirus24 | Yeah I added that and wanted to bring attention to it. It seems useful but I'm not sure if it is really desirable | 15:25 |
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| sigmavirus24 | Also I wanted to make sure no one things that anything other than a glob-like syntax is necessary | 15:25 |
| nikhil_k | sigmavirus24: we've planning to work on the cloning feature for that | 15:26 |
| sigmavirus24 | Compiling regular expressions provided by the user seems like a badidea | 15:26 |
| rosmaita | +1 | 15:26 |
| rosmaita | we want to push that stuff to the metadata indexing service | 15:27 |
| sigmavirus24 | stpierre: I'm not a core but I'll look at that today | 15:27 |
| nikhil_k | stpierre: can we wait just a bit? would like to give some feedback in the open discussion | 15:28 |
| stpierre | sure | 15:28 |
| nikhil_k | Next. | 15:28 |
| nikhil_k | https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1188532 nominated for juno and icehouse | 15:28 |
| sigmavirus24 | The OSSA requested someone nominate it for those but we haven't accepted the nominations | 15:29 |
| sigmavirus24 | (Or we hadn't as of last night) | 15:29 |
| sigmavirus24 | So I wanted feedback as to whether we do want to backport and someone to accept those. I'll backport them today since teh juno branch freeze starts on 30 Jan | 15:29 |
| nikhil_k | sigmavirus24: the duplicate one has more info unfortunately https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1383973 | 15:30 |
| nikhil_k | sigmavirus24: I'd started work on it yday and could get to it only partially. It's tricky due to the glance_store changes. We can discuss more offline. | 15:30 |
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| TravT_ | That looks like a good one to backport to me | 15:31 |
| sigmavirus24 | Okay | 15:31 |
| sigmavirus24 | I just wanted to bring it up since the next juno release is not far off | 15:32 |
| ativelkov | May I for some attention on https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1412802 ? Quite a nasty bug, and also worths backporting to I-J | 15:32 |
| nikhil_k | sigmavirus24: this is the most active duplicate https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1398830 | 15:32 |
| sigmavirus24 | Oh that's already nominated. Nevermind :) | 15:33 |
| nikhil_k | yeah, lp needs a cleanup there ;) | 15:33 |
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| nikhil_k | ativelkov: can we get to you review after sigmavirus24's next one? | 15:35 |
| TravT_ | ativelkov: nikhil_k: I'm kind of surprised that is only a medium. since it is data corruption \ loss. | 15:35 |
| ativelkov | Sure, sorry for interrupting | 15:35 |
| sigmavirus24 | Next one is just the spec for passing real targets to the policy enforcer (which is now targetted for k-2) | 15:36 |
| nikhil_k | TravT_: be back on that, sorry | 15:36 |
| * TravT_ shuts mouth too ;) | 15:36 | |
| nikhil_k | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149112/ | 15:36 |
| sigmavirus24 | so I'd love feedback on that and early review on the associated review is appreciated. I have ideas for tests as detailed in the spec but haven't added them | 15:36 |
| sigmavirus24 | yes, thanks nikhil | 15:36 |
| nikhil_k | awesome, thanks for that pointer sigmavirus24 ! | 15:37 |
| * sigmavirus24 hands torch to ativelkov | 15:37 | |
| ativelkov | Thanks sigmavirus24 :) | 15:37 |
| ativelkov | Well, that's a data corruption issue I recently found | 15:38 |
| ativelkov | The fix is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148574/ | 15:38 |
| ativelkov | As it happens in Icehouse and Juno, I proposed to backport it (which is quite simple: the changed code haven't been modified for a long time) | 15:39 |
| * sigmavirus24 is reviewing | 15:40 | |
| nikhil_k | ativelkov: TravT_ : yeah, I think we can mark it critical. | 15:40 |
| nikhil_k | Our initial discussion with ativelkov lead me to believe this was specific to stores, with the values associated to them | 15:40 |
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| nikhil_k | Thanks for the pointer TravT_ , much appreciated! | 15:41 |
| sigmavirus24 | Should we target that to k-2? | 15:41 |
| nikhil_k | just did :) | 15:41 |
| nikhil_k | Thanks | 15:42 |
| ativelkov | If more reviews come, we may definetly release it in k2 | 15:42 |
| nikhil_k | might be a good idea to focus on critical bug sooner | 15:42 |
| nikhil_k | ;) | 15:42 |
| nikhil_k | Need to sync openstack/common from oslo-incubator: | 15:43 |
| lakshmiS | Need to sync openstack/common from oslo-incubator for service module - catalog index service requires it for notifications listener | 15:43 |
| nikhil_k | lakshmiS: ^ (seems like you) | 15:43 |
| lakshmiS | Should i open a bug to import it? | 15:43 |
| nikhil_k | that would be great | 15:43 |
| lakshmiS | We are also looking at the service module to use as a framework for notification refactoring - similar to how ceilometer uses it for notifications. | 15:43 |
| lakshmiS | are there any other ideas on refactoring notifications? | 15:44 |
| * sigmavirus24 hasn't looked at notifications in depth yet so I can't give useful feedback, yet | 15:45 | |
| krykowski | according to current work at notifications for metadata objects https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148546/ which is based on implementation from images | 15:45 |
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| nikhil_k | We are thinking about some notification refactoring in glance, this might come up in Nova-Glance common session at the mini-summit | 15:46 |
| lakshmiS | is there a agenda for nova-glance common session? | 15:46 |
| nikhil_k | Please free to float this idea on the summit etherpad, we can try to sneak it in >.> | 15:46 |
| lakshmiS | ok | 15:46 |
| nikhil_k | #topic Open Discussion | 15:47 |
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| nikhil_k | stpierre: about your spec | 15:47 |
| nikhil_k | Looks like a good improvement. I'm just worried about it clashing with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125156/ and (possibly) https://review.openstack.org/141331 | 15:48 |
| nikhil_k | Just with the code proposal path. | 15:49 |
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| nikhil_k | stpierre: if you've a draft ready, we can try to merge it faster than those two. | 15:49 |
| nikhil_k | (unlikely for k2) | 15:50 |
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| stpierre | i don't have anything ready yet unfortunately | 15:50 |
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| nikhil_k | stpierre: no issues, not a possibility in next 2 weeks. So, anything after than is welcome :) | 15:51 |
| stpierre | okay, i can definitely have something by then | 15:51 |
| nikhil_k | sigmavirus24: would you like to be assigned to https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1398830 backports? (I can help as needed and in review too ;) ) | 15:51 |
| stpierre | the only potentially serious point of contention i see is with the "in-memory cache" in the first spec there; it doesn't describe how the in-memory cache will be populated. but even that should be fairly trivial since my change will just replace the current read/write operations with something consistent and easy :) | 15:51 |
| stpierre | so all i need is a core reviewer to sign on and i can be off and writing code | 15:52 |
| nikhil_k | stpierre: feel free to assign and bug me on this | 15:52 |
| sigmavirus24 | nikhil_k: go for it | 15:52 |
| sigmavirus24 | i'll assign myself | 15:52 |
| nikhil_k | sigmavirus24: awesome! | 15:52 |
| sigmavirus24 | I'm going to prioritize juno though | 15:52 |
| sigmavirus24 | because deadlines | 15:52 |
| stpierre | nikhil_k: tyvm | 15:52 |
| nikhil_k | +1 | 15:52 |
| nikhil_k | stpierre: :) | 15:53 |
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| nikhil_k | If nothing else ... | 15:54 |
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| TravT_ | looking forward to seeing many of you next week! | 15:55 |
| sigmavirus24 | TravT_: ;_; | 15:55 |
| kragniz | TravT_: ;_; | 15:55 |
| sigmavirus24 | Also TravT_ sorry I misunderstood your spec. I read it totally wrong :) | 15:56 |
| TravT_ | yeah, wish you guys could be there. | 15:56 |
| TravT_ | sigmavirus24: no worries | 15:56 |
| nikhil_k | Thanks all! | 15:56 |
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| nikhil_k | #endmeeting | 15:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 22 15:56:56 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2015/glance.2015-01-22-15.00.html | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2015/glance.2015-01-22-15.00.txt | 15:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2015/glance.2015-01-22-15.00.log.html | 15:57 |
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| hughsaunders | hey | 15:57 |
| cloudnull | hows it | 15:58 |
| d34dh0r53 | lo | 15:58 |
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| odyssey4me | |o | 15:58 |
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| sigmavirus24 | o/ | 15:58 |
| sigmavirus24 | long time no see odyssey4me and hughsaunders | 15:58 |
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| odyssey4me | :p | 15:59 |
| cloudnull | it has been a long time | 15:59 |
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| hughsaunders | yar, but apparently people are scheming to fix that | 16:00 |
| b3rnard0 | #startmeeting OpenStack Ansible Meeting | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 22 16:00:02 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is b3rnard0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible_meeting' | 16:00 |
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| cloudnull | so hey everybody | 16:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | hi | 16:01 |
| b3rnard0 | #topic RollCall | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RollCall (Meeting topic: OpenStack Ansible Meeting)" | 16:01 | |
| mattt | \o | 16:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | here | 16:01 |
| palendae | Hello | 16:01 |
| b3rnard0 | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-ansible | 16:01 |
| odyssey4me | o/ | 16:01 |
| cloudnull | present | 16:01 |
| hughsaunders | \o | 16:01 |
| andymccr | \o | 16:01 |
| sigmavirus24 | present | 16:01 |
| d34dh0r53 | pre sent | 16:01 |
| palendae | present | 16:01 |
| klamath | here | 16:01 |
| cfarquhar | present | 16:01 |
| hughsaunders | git-harry: present | 16:02 |
| b3rnard0 | #topic The state of "10.1.2" and "9.0.6", loggin, bugs, ect. - (cloudnull) | 16:02 |
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| mancdaz | present | 16:02 |
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| cloudnull | looks like I need "apell". | 16:02 |
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| cloudnull | ^see | 16:03 |
| cloudnull | so odyssey4me andymccr , how are we looking towards getting logging all happy ? | 16:03 |
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| andymccr | i think the main work that was required has gone in already - courtesy of odyssey4me | 16:03 |
| andymccr | so we should be fine. | 16:04 |
| b3rnard0 | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1399371 | 16:04 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull: one patch left before it's all hunky dorey - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148623/ | 16:04 |
| odyssey4me | essentially the only bit left is that for some reason the swift logs aren't coming through properly - the rsyslog container doesn't send them... I'm still trying to figure out the problem there | 16:05 |
| cloudnull | odyssey4me: is that something that maybe d34dh0r53 can help out with ? | 16:05 |
| andymccr | odyssey4me: i'll look into that because i know i removed the rsyslog containers from being built on the swift storage hosts | 16:06 |
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| odyssey4me | sure - in truth anyone who has a working build can help to figure out what the cause is - once I know that it'll be easy to roll in the patch | 16:06 |
| odyssey4me | it may be an aio specific issue, in which case we can ignore it - but I could do with assistance to triage, thanks andymccr | 16:06 |
| andymccr | ive got a build almost completed now | 16:07 |
| andymccr | so will be no problem | 16:07 |
| b3rnard0 | #action andymccr to investigate why rsyslog container doesn't send swift logs issue | 16:07 |
| odyssey4me | ok - we can sort that out before COB tomorrow then | 16:07 |
| andymccr | e-z | 16:07 |
| d34dh0r53 | let me know if I can assist as well | 16:07 |
| cloudnull | sweet. | 16:07 |
| b3rnard0 | #action d34dh0r53 To help andymccr on rsyslog issue | 16:08 |
| andymccr | i could use a coffee - milk, 1 sugar :D thanks d34dh0r53 | 16:08 |
| hughsaunders | haha | 16:08 |
| cloudnull | so for our open bugs within 9.0.6. | 16:08 |
| d34dh0r53 | :) on it's way, may be a little cold when it gets there | 16:08 |
| b3rnard0 | #topic 9.0.6 | 16:09 |
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| cloudnull | between mattt odyssey4me and mancdaz everything looks "in progress" | 16:09 |
| cloudnull | odyssey4me: logging should be good in 9.0.6 | 16:09 |
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| cloudnull | because no swift? | 16:09 |
| mancdaz | cloudnull yeah I backported the stuff that was tagged as a potential, after assessing if it was needed | 16:09 |
| b3rnard0 | #link https://launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+milestone/9.0.6 | 16:09 |
| mancdaz | some of those are outstanding | 16:09 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull: yep, once I get a working aio on 9.x I'll test all the logging patches and submit them | 16:10 |
| odyssey4me | next week will be backport week, pretty much | 16:11 |
| cloudnull | odyssey4me: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1399387/comments/10 is that being broken out into multiple commits? | 16:11 |
| cloudnull | or will it stay as is? | 16:12 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull: yes - that'll be reverted and submitted one at a time once openstack infra approves https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149305/ | 16:12 |
| cloudnull | kk. | 16:12 |
| odyssey4me | that patch will allow me to patch both the icehouse and juno branches to a point where we have a working aio check on both those branches | 16:13 |
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| cloudnull | sounds good. | 16:13 |
| odyssey4me | then we'll re-enable voting on those branches for the aio check | 16:13 |
| cloudnull | is there anything that is presently in 9.0.6 that needs to have the state changed? | 16:14 |
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| cloudnull | like i said, thats a lot of in progress for only one week till release? | 16:15 |
| cloudnull | ok | 16:15 |
| cloudnull | on to 10.1.2 | 16:15 |
| b3rnard0 | #topic 10.1.2 | 16:16 |
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| b3rnard0 | #link https://launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+milestone/10.1.2 | 16:16 |
| mancdaz | lots of things | 16:16 |
| cloudnull | whats pressing there? does anyone need help on working these issues? | 16:16 |
| mancdaz | I need help in getting the cherry-pick backports approved | 16:16 |
| mattt | w/ 9.0.6, some of those in progress are actually fix committed no ? | 16:17 |
| odyssey4me | mancdaz I've got your back there. | 16:17 |
| cloudnull | mattt, i assume yes. but i guess we'll have to go through and figure that out | 16:17 |
| mattt | cloudnull: i looked at one and it's been merged into icehouse, so that list may not be accurate | 16:18 |
| mancdaz | it's the wau lauinchpad tracks the status | 16:18 |
| odyssey4me | mattt possibly - we can verify next week I guess | 16:18 |
| mancdaz | it's why I wanted to talk about how we do that in launchpad | 16:18 |
| cloudnull | mancdaz we'll get to that . | 16:18 |
| * mancdaz nods | 16:18 | |
| cloudnull | so , with 10.1.2 we need to do lots of backporting . but beyond that everything else looks to be good, right? | 16:19 |
| mancdaz | I can go through that list and see if anything targetted for a series has actually merged, even if the bug shows in progress | 16:19 |
| cloudnull | kk thanks mancdaz . we'll need to do that for 9.0.6 an 10.1.2 | 16:20 |
| cloudnull | i can help out with that too. | 16:20 |
| b3rnard0 | #action mancdaz To go through that list and see if anything targetted for a series has actually merged, even if the bug shows in progress (9.0.6 & 10.1.2) | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull: should be fine - essentially we just need people to actually test the build over and over again | 16:20 |
| mancdaz | there's actually not that many juno outstanding with the backport tag | 16:20 |
| mancdaz | I did most of the backports last week | 16:20 |
| mancdaz | just need them to be approved/reviewed | 16:21 |
| odyssey4me | once the aio check is fixed then it'll be automatically tested in principle per commit, which will help | 16:21 |
| b3rnard0 | #action cloudnull To help mancdaz with merging help | 16:21 |
| mancdaz | we need help with that help | 16:21 |
| cloudnull | haha | 16:21 |
| b3rnard0 | #topic Prioritizing the "next" milestone for 10.x and 9.x. - (cloudnull) | 16:22 |
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| cloudnull | we've got quite a few items in the "next" milestone. | 16:22 |
| cloudnull | link https://launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+milestone/next | 16:22 |
| b3rnard0 | #link https://launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+milestone/next | 16:23 |
| cloudnull | i'd like to see if we can prioritize them for what will be 10.1.3 and 9.0.7 | 16:23 |
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| cloudnull | starting with what will be a hot topic item , "F5 Pool Monitoring in Kilo" | 16:24 |
| cloudnull | presently the f5 monitoring script uses xml for token parsing , | 16:24 |
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| cloudnull | this is gone come kilo. | 16:24 |
| b3rnard0 | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1399382 | 16:24 |
| cloudnull | i'd like to see if we can do something better/different . | 16:25 |
| cloudnull | Apsu: you worked on that, any insight ? | 16:25 |
| odyssey4me | surely this belong in the set of things which need to be extracted from the generalised open build, as it's specific to the rax deployments | 16:25 |
| Apsu | cloudnull: Life is hard trying to process data on an F5, given the CPU limitations and poor forking performance | 16:26 |
| Apsu | So making use of JSON will be interesting. Also the python version is quite old. | 16:26 |
| mancdaz | some service that runs on the host and checks status locally? It's how galera recommend it's done | 16:26 |
| mancdaz | the f5 then only needs to do a standard http keyword check | 16:26 |
| Apsu | Might look into jshon, if we're still going to do API level checks | 16:26 |
| cloudnull | odyssey4me, it is true that rax does use f5 but that is not specific to rax, anyone that uses an f5 will not be able to in short order. | 16:26 |
| Apsu | At least as far as pool monitoring based on API availability/modest authenticated requests | 16:27 |
| cloudnull | Apsu can we spike within the next milestone to see how we make that better? | 16:28 |
| Apsu | Sure. | 16:28 |
| cloudnull | i know that its a wishlist item, but it will be something that we/the project is going to have to deal with sooner than later. | 16:28 |
| Apsu | I'll see about statically-compiled jshon in case it's a quick win and we can parse JSON from the bash script directly | 16:28 |
| palendae | A thing I'll toss out - does that check have to be done on the F5? | 16:28 |
| Apsu | Should incur the least penalty and not require a custom python version or such | 16:29 |
| mancdaz | palendae yeah that's what I was saying | 16:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | palendae: i was typing the same question | 16:29 |
| Apsu | We should definitely look into not | 16:29 |
| palendae | Given the limitations, would it be easier to move that monitoring action? | 16:29 |
| b3rnard0 | #action Apsu Spike on F5 monitoring | 16:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | voluntold | 16:29 |
| Apsu | The F5 needs to know, but it doesn't have to be the place that does token procurement. | 16:29 |
| mancdaz | the f5 can do a dumb poll, the results of which are generated by a more complex monitor on the host | 16:29 |
| palendae | Cool | 16:29 |
| d34dh0r53 | I don't really like the idea of the F5 doing anything other than port level monitoring either | 16:29 |
| palendae | ^ | 16:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | d34dh0r53: ding | 16:29 |
| palendae | Doesn't sound like anyone does | 16:30 |
| Apsu | Well that depends on what level of LB intelligence we want. | 16:30 |
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| Apsu | Port monitoring is great unless the API is spitting out 500s | 16:30 |
| palendae | Can probably dig deeper later, but something to think about | 16:30 |
| d34dh0r53 | Apsu: true that | 16:30 |
| Apsu | Port's open! but broken | 16:30 |
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| Apsu | Anyhow, I'll look into it | 16:30 |
| cloudnull | as for the rest of the wishlist items targeted for "next" , do we want to bring any of them in for the proposed 10.1.3 / 9.0.7 ? | 16:30 |
| mancdaz | I actually don't care where the intelligence lives, except that clearly in this case we can't do what we want on the f5, so do it somewher else | 16:30 |
| d34dh0r53 | Apsu: in it's current state the script is closing a lot of ports that are functioning correctly | 16:30 |
| Apsu | d34dh0r53: That's unrelated to the concept of availability monitoring, just the particular way the script skeleton was filled out so far :P | 16:31 |
| Apsu | Will have that fixed up too, lol | 16:31 |
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| d34dh0r53 | Apsu: cool | 16:31 |
| mancdaz | cloudnull as for other wishlist items, I doubt they'd make it into icehouse | 16:31 |
| mancdaz | since we are treating that as a maintenance branch/version now, right? | 16:32 |
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| mattt | cloudnull: i'll probably work https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1412762 into 10.1.3 | 16:32 |
| cloudnull | mancdaz we are. | 16:32 |
| mattt | we expose a whole bunch of non-function heat resource types which is a bit janky | 16:32 |
| mattt | *non-functional | 16:32 |
| cloudnull | kk . sounds good | 16:33 |
| cloudnull | if nobody has anything specifically that they want in, ill go through them and file them away accordingly. | 16:33 |
| b3rnard0 | #action matt To backport https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1412762 into 10.1.3 | 16:33 |
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| cloudnull | ok moving on. | 16:34 |
| b3rnard0 | #action cloudnull To target greater than wishlist next bugs into future milestones | 16:34 |
| b3rnard0 | #topic Triaging bugs, targeting at correct series, targeting series fixes at milestones - getting consensus on how we do it. mancdaz | 16:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Triaging bugs, targeting at correct series, targeting series fixes at milestones - getting consensus on how we do it. mancdaz (Meeting topic: OpenStack Ansible Meeting)" | 16:34 | |
| cloudnull | mancdaz you have the floor . | 16:35 |
| mancdaz | ok so the way we file/triage/target bugs etc | 16:35 |
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| mancdaz | when a bug is first filed, it is auto targetted to trunk | 16:35 |
| mancdaz | but we often need to backport it to icehouse and juno, or just juno | 16:35 |
| mancdaz | so what I tend to do is add the juno/trunk/icehouse series | 16:36 |
| mancdaz | and then for the milestones, target the relevant series at that | 16:36 |
| mancdaz | trunk would never have a milestone, as we don't actually release anything from master | 16:36 |
| mancdaz | I also see bugs being filed, and then a milestone being added to the default (trunk) series | 16:37 |
| mancdaz | just wanted to get consensus on how we do this | 16:37 |
| mancdaz | and also at what point we actually target a bug | 16:37 |
| mancdaz | ie can I decide right now if something is going in to 10.1.2, or do we do the backport now, and later target a handful at a milestone | 16:37 |
| mancdaz | I don't know the 'correct' way | 16:38 |
| mancdaz | but just as long as we're all doing it the same way | 16:38 |
| mancdaz | am I making sense? | 16:38 |
| mancdaz | example of what I do: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1408608 | 16:39 |
| odyssey4me | fyi - if you follow the methodology outlined by mancdaz, then the openstack-infra will also auto-update the bug status when your patch merges | 16:39 |
| mancdaz | only for trunk odyssey4me | 16:39 |
| cloudnull | imo once its fixed in trunk it should be backported to its appropriate series. | 16:40 |
| mancdaz | we have to manually change the status of the series | 16:40 |
| mancdaz | cloudnull yeah I'm not arguing about wherther we sdhould backport or not | 16:40 |
| mancdaz | just how we track it in launchapd | 16:40 |
| cloudnull | i would think that if the item was fixed outside of the already set milestone, as long as its not a new feature, it should be it should be added to the upcoming milestone. | 16:41 |
| cloudnull | and that would be tracked as such within launchpad. | 16:42 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull: the advatnage of adding the series is that you can target the series to the particular milestone | 16:43 |
| odyssey4me | rather than the trunk fix to a milestone, which means you can't target two milestones | 16:43 |
| odyssey4me | ie 9.0.x and 10.0.x | 16:43 |
| mancdaz | ok so look at my example versus this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1402028 | 16:43 |
| mancdaz | this was not targeted to a series | 16:43 |
| mancdaz | but the fix was against trunk | 16:44 |
| cloudnull | ah, i see now what you're talking about. | 16:44 |
| cloudnull | i like the mancdaz. | 16:44 |
| mancdaz | it was targeted at a milestone for the trunk | 16:44 |
| mancdaz | in the way I've been doing it, you'd never target the trunk fix at a milestone, only the series | 16:45 |
| mancdaz | as that's where we release | 16:45 |
| cloudnull | so, as we triage issues, add series target to milestone . | 16:45 |
| cloudnull | i like it | 16:45 |
| b3rnard0 | do we have agreement on this issue? | 16:45 |
| hughsaunders | got that #agreed ready b3rnard0? | 16:45 |
| mancdaz | (also please add appropriate backport-potential tags tags) | 16:46 |
| * odyssey4me likes it - milestones targeted at series makes the backporting tracking easier | 16:46 | |
| mancdaz | then release manager can come along and work through the backports | 16:46 |
| cloudnull | this is what we get for letting b3rnard0 chair a meeting... | 16:46 |
| cloudnull | all opposed ? | 16:46 |
| Apsu | cloudnull: It's because he has that standing desk. If he had an actual chair, we'd be golden | 16:46 |
| b3rnard0 | #startvote | 16:47 |
| openstack | Unable to parse vote topic and options. | 16:47 |
| cloudnull | the motion passes... | 16:47 |
| cloudnull | moving on . | 16:47 |
| d34dh0r53 | The eyes have it | 16:47 |
| hughsaunders | aye | 16:47 |
| b3rnard0 | #agreed triage issues, add series target to milestone | 16:47 |
| b3rnard0 | #topic Airing of grievances | 16:47 |
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| mancdaz | just make sure you also add trunk, as otherwise it looks weird | 16:47 |
| cloudnull | so . do we have anything that anyone wants to talk about regarding the project? | 16:48 |
| cloudnull | we didnt have too many agenda items | 16:48 |
| cloudnull | so i thought it would be nice to open it up to folks if they wanted to discus something. | 16:49 |
| cloudnull | and had neglected to add an agenda item. | 16:49 |
| toxick | Can we skip to the Feats of Strenght? | 16:49 |
| Apsu | cloudnull: I've got a lot of problems with you people. | 16:49 |
| d34dh0r53 | lol | 16:49 |
| palendae | The de-raxification is saved for 'next' correct? | 16:49 |
| palendae | Which is the first step in galaxification | 16:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | palendae: kilo, i think | 16:50 |
| cloudnull | moving on to the feats of strength | 16:50 |
| Apsu | Log Toss competitors, form a line on the left | 16:50 |
| cloudnull | however irc wrestling may be tough. | 16:50 |
| cloudnull | ok. if nothing then moving on. | 16:51 |
| b3rnard0 | #topic More on genericising deployment roles and code. - (cloudnull) | 16:51 |
| cloudnull | lets move to generizing things for the last 10 minutes | 16:51 |
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| cloudnull | which opens up to palendae | 16:51 |
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| cloudnull | so far the plan has been that we will not target 10 or 9 for the removal of the rax bits, moving to kilo will be the first release that has rax bits stripped | 16:52 |
| palendae | I was more asking about what we decided last time - we had deferred to next | 16:52 |
| cloudnull | which will also include the roles as made galaxy compatible though all within the same structure. | 16:53 |
| cloudnull | as we progress through the making of our stack more generic, we will hopfully get to the point where the roles become separate repos. | 16:54 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull: and using external galaxy roles for infrastructure (non-openstack) where applicable and possible, I guess? | 16:54 |
| cloudnull | odyssey4me: i'd like to say yes, though from what I've seen so far that may be difficult. | 16:55 |
| cloudnull | granted i've not look everywhere. | 16:55 |
| Apsu | May be room to improve the existing ones, then. | 16:55 |
| cloudnull | definitely . | 16:56 |
| Apsu | Merge in our work to improve both user communities | 16:56 |
| cloudnull | the rack_roles have been labeled as "abandon ware" so we could try to pick up where they left off or move to other role maintainers. | 16:57 |
| cloudnull | but i like the idea of being able to consume external roles. | 16:57 |
| palendae | cloudnull: So the os_cloud repo's going to remain as a sketch? | 16:57 |
| palendae | And I'd agree that long term upstream galaxy roles would be great, but I think we'd have to participate in contribs/maintenance then, too | 16:58 |
| cloudnull | as soon as we extract juno from master into the branches ill put through a collapsed pr as WIP. | 16:58 |
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| palendae | cloudnull: Of all the roles getting split out? | 16:58 |
| palendae | It sounded like there was some resistance to that | 16:59 |
| palendae | Since it's one big chunk | 16:59 |
| cloudnull | presently it would be a big chunk. | 17:00 |
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| cloudnull | lets move this convo into the channel because we're out of time. | 17:00 |
| hughsaunders | it may be impractical to have a stackforge repo for every role, at least immediately - that was my resistance. But I like the idea of using galaxy roles | 17:00 |
| palendae | ok | 17:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | good meeting y'all | 17:00 |
| odyssey4me | don't forget to end the meeting :) | 17:00 |
| b3rnard0 | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 22 17:00:43 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2015/openstack_ansible_meeting.2015-01-22-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2015/openstack_ansible_meeting.2015-01-22-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2015/openstack_ansible_meeting.2015-01-22-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
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