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| dougwig | hello? | 16:00 |
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| sbalukoff | Hello! | 16:01 |
| evgenyf | Hi | 16:01 |
| johnsom | Hi Doug | 16:01 |
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| dougwig | #startmeeting neutron lbaas | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 9 16:01:21 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dougwig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| barclaac | Hi | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron lbaas)" | 16:01 | |
| dougwig | #topic roll call | 16:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_lbaas' | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: neutron lbaas)" | 16:01 | |
| johnsom | o/ | 16:01 |
| xgerman | o/ | 16:01 |
| jorgem | o' | 16:01 |
| dougwig | good morning from the neutron meetup | 16:01 |
| ajmiller | o/ | 16:01 |
| sbalukoff | Yo! | 16:01 |
| barclaac | O/ | 16:01 |
| kobis | hi | 16:01 |
| vjay7 | hi | 16:01 |
| sballe | \o/ | 16:02 |
| dougwig | #topic Announcements | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron lbaas)" | 16:02 | |
| dougwig | any announcements? i have one, but i'm going to save it for its own topic. | 16:02 |
| johnsom | Congrats on getting the tests going! | 16:02 |
| TrevorV | o/ | 16:02 |
| xgerman | +1 | 16:03 |
| rm_work | o/ | 16:03 |
| sballe | dougwig: Yeah great jobW | 16:03 |
| dougwig | #topic Services split | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Services split (Meeting topic: neutron lbaas)" | 16:03 | |
| dougwig | We are mid-split. Our new repo: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/neutron-lbaas/ | 16:03 |
| dougwig | nothing works today. :) | 16:03 |
| sballe | lol | 16:03 |
| jorgem | yay! | 16:03 |
| sbalukoff | woo-hoo! | 16:04 |
| kobis | :) | 16:04 |
| dougwig | starting tomorrow, you'll need to move any reviews. lbaas feature branch changes that are already in will be auto-merged soon. | 16:04 |
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| xgerman | cool | 16:04 |
| vjay7 | cool! | 16:04 |
| dougwig | if anyone wants to follow along: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/services_split | 16:04 |
| xgerman | so how's that Ruby thing going | 16:05 |
| xgerman | ? | 16:05 |
| dougwig | that was to tweak someone here. ignore it. :) | 16:05 |
| sbalukoff | I assume the re-implement services in Ruby thing is a joke? | 16:05 |
| sballe | :-) | 16:05 |
| xgerman | oh, and I was hoping we could use Rails for the API | 16:05 |
| sbalukoff | Aah | 16:05 |
| sbalukoff | Sweet. | 16:05 |
| sballe | I like Go better | 16:06 |
| dougwig | any questions about the split? | 16:06 |
| sbalukoff | Half our dev staff would love you. | 16:06 |
| rm_work | man, those gerrit URIs are ridiculous | 16:06 |
| sbalukoff | Haha | 16:06 |
| johnsom | Haskell? | 16:06 |
| dougwig | oh man, i unleashed something i can't control. settle down. :) | 16:06 |
| dougwig | any split questions? | 16:06 |
| xgerman | How can we help? | 16:06 |
| kobis | +1 | 16:07 |
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| dougwig | many ways. i had to disable the service-type extension test when other extensions aren't loaded; it breaks for some reason. i need that narrowed down. we need the tempest tests split into neutron and each of the services, and jenkins jobs submitted to infra to run the services jobs against the right repo. | 16:08 |
| dougwig | if we have any alembic wizards, we have to do the separate db chains today | 16:08 |
| dougwig | we need someone to look at tweaking the vmware plugin to not include services everywhere. | 16:09 |
| dougwig | ping me if you want to work on anything. | 16:09 |
| dougwig | in a bit, we'll need help getting all the unit tests running again, but that has to wait for alembic. | 16:09 |
| dougwig | ping me offline | 16:09 |
| xgerman | ok, sounds good | 16:10 |
| dougwig | oh, and special thanks to xgerman and HP for loaning us high cpu core nodes for this. such a big help to run the units quickly. | 16:10 |
| dougwig | #topic v2 specs | 16:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "v2 specs (Meeting topic: neutron lbaas)" | 16:10 | |
| blogan | sorry im late | 16:10 |
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| rm_work | is there a deploy guide somewhere now that our extension is separate? do you just clone it into the extensions directory and then otherwise it's the same as before? | 16:10 |
| dougwig | the spec dealing passed yesterday. all of the lbaas v2 community specs were re-submitted. if you're a vendor that wants a driver and did not submit, please send it TODAY and i'll ask mestery to sneak it in (no promises.) | 16:11 |
| rm_work | *spec deadline ? | 16:11 |
| dougwig | rm_work: extensions are not separate yet. nor does it work yet. there will be a ML post tomorrow on how to enable it. | 16:11 |
| dougwig | neutron-spec submission deadline | 16:11 |
| rm_work | yeah making sure that's what you meant | 16:11 |
| rm_work | not that there was a wheeling and dealing session that we needed to attend for specs :P | 16:12 |
| dougwig | #topic Open discussion | 16:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: neutron lbaas)" | 16:12 | |
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| xgerman | rm_work there probably was a wheeling and dealing seesion in Salt lake at a chick-fil-a | 16:12 |
| dougwig | no detailed agenda this week, due to mid-cycle. anyone have topics? do we have closure on status trees? | 16:12 |
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| rm_work | heh, Utah has CFA? did not know that :P | 16:13 |
| xgerman | mestery's twitter feed is like gospel | 16:13 |
| blogan | i think we decied in the interest of moving forward, we just put an operating_status and provisioning_status on LB and Listener, and operating_status on pool and members | 16:14 |
| dougwig | any topics, or shall we get out of here? | 16:14 |
| * rm_work just realized he did not know exactly where Utah was | 16:14 | |
| blogan | ^^ | 16:14 |
| xgerman | but more serious things: I filed a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1399749 | 16:14 |
| xgerman | which is now Low | 16:14 |
| xgerman | (and I agree) | 16:14 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: Will y'all be communicating somewhere when there are reviews or whatnot you'd like us to get eyes on? | 16:15 |
| dougwig | yes. i'll put them in the etherpad above and ping the channel. | 16:15 |
| sbalukoff | Ok. | 16:15 |
| sbalukoff | Thanks! | 16:15 |
| sballe | thx | 16:15 |
| dougwig | for now, i have a pile of cores in arm's reach and i've been going for speed until things aren't broken. | 16:15 |
| sballe | +1 | 16:15 |
| xgerman | +100 | 16:15 |
| xgerman | speed is good | 16:15 |
| johnsom | +1 | 16:16 |
| sballe | yeah we are not use to velocity anymore. How does it feel? | 16:16 |
| dougwig | status plan looks good to me. | 16:16 |
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| dougwig | alright, let's get out of here. thanks, and ping me on irc if you want split updates or want to do some code tweaking. | 16:17 |
| sbalukoff | Thanks! | 16:17 |
| jorgem | graci | 16:18 |
| xgerman | Thanks -- great job dougwig with the split!! | 16:18 |
| rm_work | o/ | 16:18 |
| dougwig | #endmeeting | 16:18 |
| vjay7 | +1 | 16:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:18 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 9 16:18:18 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:18 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_lbaas/2014/neutron_lbaas.2014-12-09-16.01.html | 16:18 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_lbaas/2014/neutron_lbaas.2014-12-09-16.01.txt | 16:18 |
| vjay7 | bye | 16:18 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_lbaas/2014/neutron_lbaas.2014-12-09-16.01.log.html | 16:18 |
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| TrevorV | \o | 16:19 |
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| ptoohill | :P doesnt track after the endmeeting | 16:19 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | banix: dougwig blogan sballe sbalukoff xgerman: hi | 17:00 |
| xgerman | o/ | 17:00 |
| blogan | hi! | 17:01 |
| banix | hi | 17:01 |
| sbalukoff | Hello! | 17:01 |
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| johnsom | Hello | 17:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | sunil__: hi | 17:01 |
| vishwanathj | SumitNaiksatam, hi | 17:01 |
| * mestery straps in the kevlar and dials it in | 17:01 | |
| vishwanathj | All, hi | 17:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | lets get started, perhaps we can keep this short | 17:01 |
| sunil__ | SumitNaiksatam: Hello | 17:01 |
| sballe | hi | 17:01 |
| dougwig | o/ | 17:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mestery: vishwanathj: hi | 17:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting Networking Advanced Services | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 9 17:01:51 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Networking Advanced Services)" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_advanced_services' | 17:01 |
| sbalukoff | +1 to short meeting | 17:02 |
| johnsom | o/ | 17:02 |
| kobis | hi | 17:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #info SPD has passed, next milestone in terms of specs is dec 15th | 17:02 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #info SAD is 12-15-2014 | 17:02 |
| SridarK | Hi | 17:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #info Kilo-1 is 12-18-2014 | 17:02 |
| mestery | FYI: We've already started moving lots of specs out of Kilo | 17:02 |
| mestery | See my email to the list | 17:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mestery: yes, thanks for that update | 17:03 |
| mestery | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron-drivers | 17:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | saw that email | 17:03 |
| mestery | See the bottom there for the reasoning we're using. | 17:03 |
| mestery | A lot of the removals were around plugin decomposition, or lack of community consensus. | 17:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mestery: okay | 17:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i havent checked the latest list | 17:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | what got booted out | 17:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but i guess we can bring any concerns in the open discussion | 17:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Advanced services’ split | 17:04 |
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| dougwig | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/services_split | 17:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: thanks | 17:04 |
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| dougwig | status is in there, as well as a few separable tasks that people can help with. | 17:04 |
| mestery | We need mindless coders soon | 17:05 |
| mestery | ;) | 17:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mestery: :-) | 17:05 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i thought we could use today’s meeting just to quickly sync up on this activity and see how we can get people to help out with the pending tasks | 17:05 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: nice to have this list in that context | 17:05 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: are the items in the order of priority on the etherpad? | 17:06 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | some of these things need to go in lock-step i guess | 17:06 |
| dougwig | SumitNaiksatam: and pc_m: blogan is working on the lbaas alembic chains. Once he's got that sorted out, we'll need someone to *quickly* do the same for vpn/fw, as the db stuff is gating most of the test fixing. | 17:06 |
| mestery | We need this to land first https://review.openstack.org/140225 | 17:07 |
| mestery | It's in the merge queue | 17:07 |
| mestery | Then we need this to land: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140164 | 17:07 |
| mestery | This involves watching these, working with infra and QA to get them merged | 17:07 |
| dougwig | the second disables advanced services tempest testing. | 17:07 |
| mestery | Lots of IRC time | 17:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mestery: the first one seems to have passed jenkins | 17:07 |
| blogan | mestery: im pretty mindless today, so im your man | 17:07 |
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| mestery | SumitNaiksatam: It's in the merge queue now, do you use http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ to watch these things? | 17:08 |
| mestery | blogan: lol | 17:08 |
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| mestery | Anyways, once these land ,we can land this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139901/ | 17:09 |
| mestery | Though we need to look at garyk's question there yet | 17:09 |
| blogan | indeed | 17:09 |
| mestery | So that's where things are at a high level here. | 17:09 |
| mestery | Thanks to dougwig for doing most of hte legwork here. | 17:10 |
| mestery | dougwig is doing some awesome stuff here. | 17:10 |
| blogan | dougwig i don't care what mestery says about you, you're alright | 17:10 |
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| mestery | blogan: rofl | 17:10 |
| dougwig | sigh. :) | 17:10 |
| sbalukoff | haha | 17:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140164 is mat treinish looking at it? | 17:11 |
| dougwig | anyone have questions? if you want to take on a task, please note it on the etherpad or ping me | 17:11 |
| xgerman | I am stull looking for something simple :-) | 17:11 |
| dougwig | that one needs a 'recheck' once the skip review merges. | 17:11 |
| blogan | why did i have to pick the one that everythign depends on | 17:12 |
| dougwig | xgerman: #1, #2, or #4 | 17:12 |
| xgerman | #1 it is | 17:12 |
| dougwig | SumitNaiksatam: it's on infra's radar, as soon as the other change merges and we get it's gate passing. | 17:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: ok great | 17:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: on the query: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+file:%255E.*/db/firewall/.*+OR+status:open+project:openstack/neutron+file:%255E.*/db/vpn/.*+OR+status:open+project:openstack/neutron+file:%255E.*/db/loadbalancer/.,n,z | 17:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | it seems to be returning non-split related patches as well | 17:13 |
| dougwig | that was for mestery, to temporarily -2 all services code during the split. | 17:13 |
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| mestery | ack | 17:13 |
| dougwig | yes, a completely clean query is darn near impossible. it's just kinda close. | 17:13 |
| dougwig | thanks to anteaya for creating that. | 17:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: ah ok | 17:14 |
| anteaya | o/ | 17:14 |
| mestery | Did you guys read the emails on all of this to list? | 17:15 |
| mestery | We've sent lots of information here, perhaps it all wasn't clear. | 17:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | blogan: do you have a WIP patch for the alembic migrations? | 17:15 |
| dougwig | SumitNaiksatam: he just started a few minutes ago. he's awesome, but i expect he needs a few. :) | 17:16 |
| mestery | SumitNaiksatam: Are you planning to review that patch when blogan is done? | 17:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig, mestery: ah okay, i was asking if we needed to start doing this in parallel for fwaas and vpnaas as well | 17:16 |
| blogan | SumitNaiksatam: what dougwig said, minus the awesome part | 17:16 |
| dougwig | check with blogan on when more hands will help there. | 17:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i dont want to duplicate efforts, but we can start in parallel if blogan is just getting started | 17:17 |
| blogan | SumitNaiksatam: you can definitely start setting up the alembic structure, that should take a few seconds | 17:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mestery: yes happy to review | 17:17 |
| blogan | for fwaas and vpnaas | 17:17 |
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| blogan | bc im doing it for lbaas right now, after that itll just be repeat | 17:17 |
| mestery | good idea blogan | 17:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so i guess, based on the number of folks from the lbaas team here, i think the lbaas action items are covered | 17:18 |
| blogan | well i was going to do do this for fwaas and vpnaas as well | 17:18 |
| xgerman | awesome | 17:18 |
| blogan | but since i dont have the domain knowledge i'd need yalls help on that | 17:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | blogan: ah okay | 17:19 |
| * mestery wonders why we're covering LBAAS items in this meeting when the LBAAS meeting just happened | 17:19 | |
| mestery | I guess people really like meetings? | 17:19 |
| blogan | im not a manager, so i dont like meetings | 17:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | are the items on the vpnaas side of things covered? | 17:19 |
| sbalukoff | Mentioning the term 'lbaas' doesn't intrinsically mean we're actually discussing said items. XD | 17:20 |
| xgerman | we are just the most awesome :-) | 17:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mestery: we are not just covering lbaas items, that was the first thing i was checking on | 17:20 |
| sballe | Everybody like LBaaS :-) | 17:20 |
| dougwig | alright, let's pull back and focus here. | 17:20 |
| sbalukoff | We're also the biggest jerks. | 17:20 |
| mestery | sballe: ++ | 17:20 |
| mestery | sbalukoff: rofl | 17:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mestery: next i wanted to check if the pending items had owners on the fwaas and vpnaas side as well | 17:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mestery: if you think the coordination is not required is not required at this stage, i guess we can move on | 17:21 |
| dougwig | we don't have individuals identified for fixing unit tests for each repo, though that will need to wait for the alembic stuff. likely the same person will do all of the tempest re-enabling/jobs. | 17:21 |
| mestery | I think we're doing it on the etherpad and in the various channels | 17:21 |
| dougwig | mestery: +1 | 17:21 |
| mestery | And in email | 17:22 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i guess pcm is not here for the vpnaas side of things | 17:22 |
| dougwig | he's here in person. :) | 17:23 |
| mestery | He's actually working right now as well :) | 17:23 |
| dougwig | currently talking with the l3 refactor guys, but i could throw my red bull and hit him. | 17:23 |
| mestery | coding and discussing refactoring in the room I believe | 17:23 |
| mestery | rofl | 17:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mestery: so are we | 17:23 |
| SridarK | dougwig: SumitNaiksatam: mestery: i can take a swag on the UT stuff for FWaaS or anything else so pls feel free to throw me into the fire. I am in another mtg now and hard to keep up | 17:23 |
| dougwig | SridarK: ok, we'll keep you posted once the alembic stuff goes in. | 17:23 |
| SridarK | dougwig: cool | 17:24 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Open Discussion | 17:24 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | so seems like we are covered on the split discussion between the various modes of communication | 17:24 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | anything else we want to discuss today? | 17:24 |
| johnsom | What is the status of the meet up? | 17:24 |
| blogan | johnsom: lbaas meetup? | 17:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | johnsom: i would imagine that we get done with the split mechanics first | 17:25 |
| johnsom | No, advanced services kilo midcycle | 17:25 |
| mestery | johnsom: What do you want to accomplish at that meetup? | 17:25 |
| mestery | The work to do the split will be done this week. | 17:26 |
| blogan | i assumed there wouldn't be one with each service splitting up into its own project, however we can discuss after | 17:26 |
| mestery | I'm unclear what the objective for an advanced services meetup would bve | 17:26 |
| mestery | It's not needed from my perspective | 17:26 |
| blogan | +1 | 17:26 |
| johnsom | That is kind of my question, are we still having it, what is the topic, etc. | 17:26 |
| * mestery notes dougwig said he's +1 to my idea too but he's eating a muffin at the moment | 17:26 | |
| mestery | ;) | 17:26 |
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| mestery | johnsom: No | 17:26 |
| xgerman | mmh - muffins | 17:27 |
| mestery | lol | 17:27 |
| johnsom | Ok, thanks! | 17:27 |
| mestery | johnsom: Sure! | 17:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anything else folks for today? | 17:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | else back to the split! | 17:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | alright thanks all! | 17:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 17:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:28 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 9 17:28:28 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye | 17:28 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_advanced_services/2014/networking_advanced_services.2014-12-09-17.01.html | 17:28 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_advanced_services/2014/networking_advanced_services.2014-12-09-17.01.txt | 17:28 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_advanced_services/2014/networking_advanced_services.2014-12-09-17.01.log.html | 17:28 |
| sbalukoff | Thanks y'all! | 17:29 |
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