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nikhil_k | #startmeeting Glance | 14:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 4 14:00:45 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is nikhil_k. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
ativelkov | o/ | 14:00 |
nikhil_k | roll call | 14:00 |
kragniz | o/ | 14:00 |
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lakshmiS | o/ | 14:01 |
stevelle | o/ | 14:01 |
rosmaita | o/ | 14:01 |
sigmavirus24 | o/ | 14:01 |
mclaren | o/ | 14:02 |
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nikhil_k | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:02 |
jokke_ | o/ | 14:02 |
nikhil_k | #topic updates | 14:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to "updates (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:02 | |
nikhil_k | we got confirmation about having the glance mid-cycle meet up alongside Nova | 14:02 |
nikhil_k | Was just curious how many want a 3 day meetup? | 14:03 |
nikhil_k | else will propose to keep Tues and Wed | 14:03 |
jokke_ | are we fully overlapping with Nova? | 14:03 |
nikhil_k | i.e Jan 27, 28 | 14:03 |
mclaren | For me two days sounds like plenty | 14:03 |
nikhil_k | in a separate room, parallel to nova sessions | 14:04 |
ativelkov | It depends on the number of topics we have to discuss, but 2 days should be probably enough | 14:04 |
lakshmiS | 2 days was good last time | 14:04 |
rosmaita | +1 to 2 days | 14:04 |
nikhil_k | cool - Jan 27, 28 (Tues/Wed) it is, then! | 14:04 |
jokke_ | +1 | 14:04 |
nikhil_k | will sync with Nova ptl and schedule common sessions | 14:05 |
nikhil_k | #action nikhil_k : sync with Nova ptl and schedule common sessions | 14:05 |
nikhil_k | next | 14:05 |
nikhil_k | #topic BP for tracking (besides creating a spec) | 14:06 |
*** openstack changes topic to "BP for tracking (besides creating a spec) (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:06 | |
jokke_ | nikhil_k: quick one ... is it still @ VMWare Palo-Alto? | 14:06 |
nikhil_k | think most of us have probably got familiar with this by now | 14:06 |
nikhil_k | yes, to confim | 14:06 |
jokke_ | yes | 14:06 |
nikhil_k | #info Glance kilo mid-cycle meetup to be at VMware office in Palo Alto on Jan 27, 28 (tentatively) | 14:07 |
nikhil_k | about the BP creation - there may be confusion that spec auto creates a BP | 14:07 |
nikhil_k | that is not the case as lp api does not support creating a blueprint | 14:07 |
jokke_ | there is tool 'though to do that | 14:08 |
nikhil_k | this is relavant as we may want to schedule a feature for k-1, 2, 3 even before a spec is completely discussed approved | 14:08 |
nikhil_k | and this may get missed in communicating with release management - thus preventing landing of the code in the cycle | 14:08 |
ativelkov | What about blueprint dependency trees? Should we make the spec dependent in geerit for that? | 14:08 |
nikhil_k | ativelkov: that would be good | 14:09 |
lakshmiS | so creating spec on gerrit and lp are seperate process? | 14:09 |
sigmavirus24 | lakshmiS: yes | 14:10 |
nikhil_k | not separate process per say - just manunal work in the same process | 14:10 |
jokke_ | lakshmiS: Effectively yes, but as said there is a script to do it (need to dig out Tue cross project meeting logs where it is) | 14:10 |
lakshmiS | ok | 14:10 |
nikhil_k | basically - one feature proposal == creating a spec + bp | 14:10 |
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nikhil_k | oh, one more thing | 14:11 |
kragniz | jokke_: is that a script to do both, or create blueprint from gerrit spec? | 14:11 |
nikhil_k | we are planning to enable a script which identifies inconsistency in the BPs and kick them out of schedule (k1, k2 etc) | 14:11 |
jokke_ | kragniz: it's called spec2bp | 14:12 |
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jokke_ | it creates the bp out of the spec | 14:12 |
nikhil_k | insconsistencies like - priority not set, status not proper etc | 14:12 |
nikhil_k | am little dubious about it | 14:13 |
nikhil_k | having a api to create bp would mean potentially spamming the system, but anyways... | 14:13 |
nikhil_k | #info please sync with nikhil_k if you need to target a bp/spec to a milestone to keep it on schedule and avoid it getting kicked out by the script | 14:14 |
nikhil_k | next | 14:14 |
nikhil_k | #topic BPs for k1 | 14:14 |
*** openstack changes topic to "BPs for k1 (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:14 | |
nikhil_k | #link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/kilo-1 | 14:14 |
nikhil_k | one BP merged, so yay! | 14:15 |
sigmavirus24 | time to celebrate | 14:15 |
nikhil_k | we've 2 planned and many more to go in the cycle | 14:15 |
nikhil_k | the tentative schedule suggests that we'd at least complete 5 by k1 to be on track in this cycle | 14:15 |
nikhil_k | would like some volunteers here | 14:16 |
nikhil_k | may be specs like taskflow which have code submitted already | 14:17 |
lakshmiS | I would love to say yes but i think practically "catalog index service" bp would be k2 target | 14:17 |
ativelkov | Ш may split artifacts spec to some smaller parts | 14:17 |
sigmavirus24 | nikhil_k: volunteers for? | 14:17 |
mclaren | volunteers for reviews or code nikhil_k ? | 14:17 |
ativelkov | I* may | 14:17 |
nikhil_k | what about your BP sigmavirus24 ? can we target it for k1? | 14:17 |
sigmavirus24 | nikhil_k: I can work on a patchset for it the end of this week or start of next | 14:17 |
nikhil_k | mclaren: sigmavirus24 : atm volunteers for specs | 14:17 |
ativelkov | This will let us some code which is already completed (such as SemVer support) to be landed in K1 | 14:18 |
nikhil_k | and after that we can identify reviewer availability | 14:18 |
nikhil_k | ativelkov: that sounds good | 14:18 |
jokke_ | nikhil_k: could we have a fast-track to copy the approved speks from previous release to new one if gets delayed. By the looks of it we did not have anything approved for Kilo thus far | 14:18 |
nikhil_k | ativelkov: please create a BP for it in that case and later on you can create a spec. so that we can get the ball rolling | 14:18 |
stevelle | I'm not sure if I can have a patchset for mine in the K-1 time frame but I could try | 14:19 |
nikhil_k | jokke_: sure, we can have a fast-track | 14:19 |
nikhil_k | it's not approved as things were in a bit of flux - the plan is to understand which ones to target for k1 and focus on them | 14:20 |
jokke_ | nikhil_k: that would just help to keep track what we have going on | 14:20 |
nikhil_k | rather than spreading out thin on various specs | 14:20 |
nikhil_k | stevelle: sure, let's target it | 14:21 |
nikhil_k | at least we will get some momentum | 14:21 |
stevelle | nikhil_k: I'll sync with you after the meeting then on targeting, per above | 14:21 |
nikhil_k | early next week, I will try to circulate the proposed specs/BP for k1 | 14:21 |
ativelkov | nikhil_k: here it is, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/semver-support | 14:21 |
nikhil_k | and we can have a discussion between cores to pick and choose their options | 14:22 |
nikhil_k | ativelkov: awesome! | 14:22 |
nikhil_k | stevelle: sg | 14:22 |
ativelkov | will prepare and submit a spec today/tomorrow | 14:22 |
nikhil_k | #action: nikhil_k to find if we can have a fast-track | 14:23 |
nikhil_k | thanks :) | 14:23 |
nikhil_k | #topic core-reviewers | 14:23 |
jokke_ | nikhil_k: would be great if we could agree/approve the specs for the release, targeting and changing them are easy, but I really dislike the idea of people writing tons of code for review at the point the big picture has not been agreed | 14:23 |
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nikhil_k | that's a NP hard problem | 14:24 |
nikhil_k | and basically - life :) | 14:24 |
nikhil_k | new cores | 14:24 |
nikhil_k | #info Welcome to the core team Erno and Alex! | 14:25 |
nikhil_k | thanks for all the hard work and contributions, much appreciated :)) | 14:25 |
lakshmiS | congrats! | 14:25 |
mclaren | добро пожаловать + tervetuloa | 14:25 |
jokke_ | :) | 14:25 |
kragniz | congrats! | 14:25 |
jokke_ | cheers | 14:25 |
ativelkov | Thanks! :) It's a honor to be with you, guys | 14:25 |
sigmavirus24 | Conrats everyone! | 14:25 |
mfedosin_ | ativelkov, cakes were tasty! congrats | 14:26 |
nikhil_k | heh | 14:26 |
stevelle | congrats | 14:26 |
* sigmavirus24 will bake cakes in your honor and eat them for you =P | 14:26 | |
nikhil_k | congratulations! | 14:27 |
nikhil_k | so we'd find some new energy in the reviews :) | 14:27 |
wayneo | congrats! | 14:27 |
* jokke_ needs to bring something to the "usual place" @ Mon :P | 14:27 | |
nikhil_k | be careful though | 14:27 |
nikhil_k | people might buzz you for reviewer assignment to their specs ;) | 14:28 |
nikhil_k | try to steer away from irc (just kidding) | 14:28 |
jokke_ | nikhil_k: no worries, have had good mentors to deal with those buzzes :P | 14:28 |
ativelkov | A question: if I am a co-author of some change-request, is it fair to review patchsets submitted by my co-authers and +1/+2 them? Or, if I am part of the authors, then no reviews from me at all? | 14:28 |
mfedosin_ | ativelkov, yes :) | 14:29 |
jokke_ | ativelkov: IMO treat them as you authored them | 14:29 |
ativelkov | so, only -1s. got it ) | 14:29 |
nikhil_k | ativelkov: please try to *avoid self-approvals* unless it's exceptional situation | 14:29 |
kragniz | ativelkov: I'd say you're a little close to the action | 14:29 |
nikhil_k | +1s are good too | 14:30 |
nikhil_k | to suggest that you've reviwed them and are okay with the changes proposed | 14:30 |
ativelkov | got it, thanks | 14:30 |
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nikhil_k | #toic stable juno | 14:30 |
nikhil_k | #topic stable juno | 14:31 |
*** openstack changes topic to "stable juno (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:31 | |
nikhil_k | :) | 14:31 |
nikhil_k | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/StableJuno | 14:31 |
nikhil_k | seems like we got things resolved and/or clarified | 14:31 |
jokke_ | somewhat | 14:31 |
nikhil_k | think we might have missed ativelkov's image update patches though | 14:31 |
nikhil_k | so what do our action items look like jokke_ ? | 14:32 |
nikhil_k | yt? | 14:32 |
ativelkov | Yup, I'd prefer the race condition to be fixed at some point, even if not backported to stable juno, but merged into K1 | 14:33 |
jokke_ | flaper blocking the glance_store bump&cap causes 2014.2.1 -> 2014.2.2 upgrades to fix the swift multi store issues, but other than that I think all tagged and implemented got in | 14:33 |
nikhil_k | ativelkov: can you mark those bugs to k-1 then ? | 14:33 |
ativelkov | nikhil_k: sure | 14:34 |
jokke_ | so please, please tag any backport potential bugs you think with juno-backport-potential ... I'll be reviewing and tracking those | 14:34 |
nikhil_k | jokke_: umm, what do you mean "upgrades to fix the swift multi store issues" -> that's a good thing right | 14:35 |
jokke_ | sorry on my previous one, flaper blocking the bump causes that the upgrades are still broken with swift multi store | 14:35 |
nikhil_k | ah ok | 14:35 |
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nikhil_k | is that up for the next stable juno release then? | 14:36 |
jokke_ | so new installs are ok or if the deployer upgrades glance_store manually | 14:36 |
mclaren | this is the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137704/ | 14:36 |
jokke_ | but upgrade from previous Juno to latest does not fix the issue | 14:36 |
jokke_ | mclaren: correct | 14:37 |
nikhil_k | yes, am curious if we can try to get that merged in (with whatever changes to the store) in the next release of stable juno ? | 14:37 |
ativelkov | nikhil_k: for some reason I cannot assign tag to https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1371728 | 14:37 |
mclaren | the store changes are in, but making it mandatory to update to the fixed version of glance_store is not | 14:37 |
nikhil_k | huh, juno-backport-potential tag does not exist | 14:38 |
nikhil_k | may be we can create that | 14:38 |
ativelkov | nikhil_k: never mind, Works now. assigned "kilo-1" | 14:38 |
nikhil_k | mclaren: ah ok, so the decision to fix it is still not confimed | 14:38 |
nikhil_k | ok | 14:38 |
nikhil_k | ativelkov: ^ | 14:38 |
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jokke_ | nikhil_k: I think there is common tag for *-backport-potential where you're supposed to replace the * with the release | 14:39 |
mclaren | nikhil_k: yeah this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137704/ would mean you'd be certain to get a working version of the store | 14:39 |
mclaren | but I think there are questions from flaper87 about the mechanics | 14:39 |
jokke_ | nikhil_k: sorry SERIES-backport-potential it is | 14:40 |
nikhil_k | ok, was trying to confirm the stance - we can decide later as well | 14:40 |
nikhil_k | jokke_: ah ok thanks | 14:40 |
nikhil_k | #topic Artifacts | 14:40 |
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TravT | jokke_: so we should use juno-backport-potential for bugs that should be backported? | 14:41 |
nikhil_k | for the past few days there have been some concerns about the issue of Glance not including artifacts by a sub set of the group | 14:41 |
jokke_ | TravT: correct | 14:41 |
mfedosin_ | I like this topic :) | 14:41 |
nikhil_k | the request is to keep image and registry only in the program | 14:42 |
jokke_ | nikhil_k: would you mind to open that statement up? | 14:42 |
jokke_ | ah | 14:42 |
nikhil_k | to let everyone know that am trying to get some feedback from variety of people and more importantly from the TC | 14:42 |
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nikhil_k | there is not much to tell at this point and just this small piece of imformation - as it was sincerely requested by some to do so | 14:43 |
ativelkov | what does it mean to us? | 14:43 |
nikhil_k | will post some concrete comments next week | 14:43 |
nikhil_k | ativelkov: we can sycn up outside of the meeting if that helps | 14:44 |
jokke_ | nikhil_k: does that mean that there is concerns it not being there yet or concerns to include artifacts to glance? | 14:44 |
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ativelkov | nikhil_k: yes, I'd like some more details please. Outside the meeting is fine | 14:44 |
nikhil_k | to clarify - "concern to include it/such features in Glance" | 14:44 |
nikhil_k | #topic osprofiler | 14:45 |
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jokke_ | nikhil_k: thnx | 14:45 |
nikhil_k | kragniz: think that's you | 14:45 |
nikhil_k | we've some time so figured we can quickly see what's the status | 14:45 |
kragniz | yeah, I'm going to talk about this in the cross project meeting | 14:45 |
nikhil_k | cool | 14:45 |
kragniz | we can probably skip it | 14:45 |
nikhil_k | kragniz: you can discuss if you want | 14:46 |
mclaren | kragniz: is this about some of the pipeline etc stuff? | 14:46 |
kragniz | okay, so basically we're the odd ones out in terms of the option name for enabling/disabling osprofiler | 14:46 |
kragniz | I'm proposing we adopt profiler_enabled instead of enabled | 14:47 |
mclaren | ah, ok, so not about loading or not based on whether it's in the pipeline... | 14:47 |
nikhil_k | #link http://www.mail-archive.com/openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org/msg41298.html | 14:47 |
kragniz | this aligns with what cinder folk want, since iirc they already have an option named 'enabled' | 14:47 |
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kragniz | mclaren: no, just deprecating this option | 14:47 |
mclaren | ok | 14:47 |
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kragniz | that's pretty much all the status is | 14:49 |
nikhil_k | cool | 14:49 |
nikhil_k | thanks kragniz | 14:49 |
kragniz | it would be nice if we all used the same option | 14:49 |
nikhil_k | #topic Reviews to catch up | 14:49 |
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nikhil_k | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123722/ | 14:49 |
nikhil_k | ativelkov: ? | 14:49 |
ativelkov | This is one of the ways to solve race conditions | 14:50 |
ativelkov | So, I just wanted some more reviews on this | 14:51 |
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nikhil_k | #help https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123722/ needs some attention | 14:51 |
ativelkov | BTW, jokke_, you could update your +1 there with +2 | 14:51 |
mclaren | I can take a peek | 14:52 |
nikhil_k | #topic open discussion | 14:52 |
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jokke_ | Ref bug triage guidelines, I did not rewrite them | 14:52 |
nikhil_k | np | 14:52 |
jokke_ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BugTriage | 14:53 |
jokke_ | Please read through with thought ... if we need something more specific for ourselves, we can agree those point or see if we can include them to existing ones | 14:53 |
TravT | what are the guidelines on backport bugs? | 14:54 |
kragniz | jokke_: looks good | 14:54 |
TravT | IOW, what qualifies a bug as backport? | 14:54 |
TravT | Actually, I'd like to hear more about the artifacts discussion from TC. | 14:55 |
nikhil_k | #liink https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StableBranch#Stable_branch_policy | 14:55 |
nikhil_k | TravT: ^ | 14:55 |
TravT | th | 14:55 |
TravT | thx | 14:55 |
jokke_ | ah nikhil_k was faster :D | 14:55 |
jokke_ | TravT: if unsure, tag the bug and I have a look/consult with the stable-maintainers | 14:56 |
TravT | jokke_: ok | 14:56 |
nikhil_k | #info flaper87 is a stable-maint* | 14:57 |
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nikhil_k | if there's nothing else | 14:58 |
kragniz | can I request some eyes on this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135267/ | 14:58 |
kragniz | before the next client release | 14:58 |
nikhil_k | #help https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135267/ before the next client release | 14:59 |
nikhil_k | ok | 14:59 |
kragniz | cool | 14:59 |
nikhil_k | Thanks all! | 14:59 |
TravT | i've got something i need in next client release | 14:59 |
TravT | when will it be? | 14:59 |
nikhil_k | link please | 14:59 |
nikhil_k | may be Dec 9 | 14:59 |
TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128791/ | 15:00 |
TravT | needed to land Horizon k1 patch | 15:00 |
nikhil_k | ok | 15:00 |
nikhil_k | we need to log off | 15:00 |
TravT | michal -1'd it only because I didn't yet get the pagination support in cli as well as api | 15:00 |
jokke_ | yeah, thanks all | 15:00 |
sigmavirus24 | Thanks everyone | 15:00 |
TravT | i'll look at adding that today | 15:00 |
kragniz | thanks | 15:00 |
nikhil_k | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 4 15:00:42 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2014/glance.2014-12-04-14.00.html | 15:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2014/glance.2014-12-04-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2014/glance.2014-12-04-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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