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| dougwig | morning | 15:57 |
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| sballe | morning | 15:57 |
| johnsom | Hello | 15:58 |
| kobis | hi | 15:58 |
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| ajmiller | Good Morning | 15:59 |
| xgerman | gm | 15:59 |
| dougwig | #startmeeting neutron lbaas | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 2 16:00:03 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dougwig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron lbaas)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_lbaas' | 16:00 |
| dougwig | #topic Roll call and Agenda and general waking up... | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll call and Agenda and general waking up... (Meeting topic: neutron lbaas)" | 16:00 | |
| johnsom | o/ | 16:00 |
| ajmiller | here | 16:00 |
| xgerman | o/ | 16:00 |
| dougwig | agenda: | 16:00 |
| dougwig | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/LBaaS#Meeting_02.12.2014 | 16:00 |
| sbalukoff | Morning! | 16:00 |
| rm_work | o/ | 16:00 |
| xgerman | anyhting form the Neutron meeting I tend to skip? | 16:00 |
| blogan | \o/ | 16:00 |
| dougwig | yep, but that's later in the agenda. | 16:00 |
| xgerman | suspensew | 16:01 |
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| evgenyf | Hi | 16:01 |
| jamiem | o/ | 16:01 |
| dougwig | #topic Announcements | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron lbaas)" | 16:01 | |
| dougwig | Review of the week: | 16:02 |
| dougwig | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123487/ | 16:02 |
| dougwig | that's the first half of the agent-less ref driver. needs eyes. | 16:02 |
| dougwig | any other announcements from anyone? | 16:02 |
| blogan | needs to rerun the testst oo | 16:02 |
| blogan | too | 16:02 |
| dougwig | jenkins was unhappy last night | 16:02 |
| blogan | is it recheck or recheck no bug? | 16:02 |
| dougwig | recheck | 16:03 |
| blogan | used to be recheck no bug | 16:03 |
| xgerman | ajmiller discovered that one of the Neutron changes broke our migrations | 16:03 |
| dougwig | they changed it | 16:03 |
| dougwig | you can check status.openstack.org/zuul to see if it re-queues. | 16:03 |
| dougwig | #topic Flavors | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Flavors (Meeting topic: neutron lbaas)" | 16:03 | |
| dougwig | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102723 | 16:03 |
| dougwig | the spec has been resurrected. whether it is undead or reanimated remains to be seen. | 16:03 |
| sballe | lol | 16:04 |
| dougwig | spec approval deadline is 12/14, so please weigh in with feedback. | 16:04 |
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| dougwig | any flavors questions/comments/feedback now? | 16:04 |
| blogan | need to refresh my memory | 16:04 |
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| xgerman | same here | 16:05 |
| dougwig | ok, i'll ping again next week. | 16:05 |
| dougwig | #topic Advanced services split discussion | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Advanced services split discussion (Meeting topic: neutron lbaas)" | 16:05 | |
| dougwig | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136835/ | 16:05 |
| dougwig | Some discussion at the neutron meeting this morning, at timestamp 14:26:13 | 16:05 |
| dougwig | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-12-02-14.01.log.html | 16:05 |
| dougwig | current spec creates four teams (neutron, lbaas, fwaas, vpnaas), and current decision is to share the neutron database with separate tables/migration chains. | 16:06 |
| dougwig | we need that spec to solidify this week if we're going to get it in early in the cycle. | 16:06 |
| blogan | sounds ambitious given all the comments | 16:06 |
| sbalukoff | Doug is doing a good job of addressing what he can in the comments. | 16:07 |
| blogan | yes he is | 16:07 |
| xgerman | +100 | 16:07 |
| sbalukoff | But yes, there are probably a few things that others in the group are simply not going to agree on. | 16:07 |
| blogan | i think the extensions decision and the same db will speed up the acceptance though | 16:07 |
| sbalukoff | I guess we'll see how willing people are to compromise. | 16:07 |
| sbalukoff | Yeah, there are a lot of trade-offs which are being made in the interest in speeding up acceptance. | 16:08 |
| dougwig | indeed. | 16:08 |
| sbalukoff | Even if we can't come to terms on the governance issue, having a technical plan to get split repositories is a step in the right direction, IMO. | 16:08 |
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| xgerman | did governace get even discussed today? | 16:09 |
| xgerman | I think we are doing a good job dancing around that :-) | 16:09 |
| dougwig | governance is pretty simple, actually. either we're in the networking program, and it's up to mestery, or we go to stackforge, with all that entails. both are viable options. | 16:09 |
| mestery | ++ | 16:09 |
| sbalukoff | Oh hey! | 16:09 |
| sbalukoff | I won't call you the devil this time. ;) | 16:10 |
| sbalukoff | (You know, speak of the devil...) | 16:10 |
| sbalukoff | Sorry, it's early and my brain is trying hard to humor. | 16:10 |
| dougwig | if we're insulting kyle, we say kyle, not mestery, so his irc client doesn't light up. | 16:10 |
| mestery | lol | 16:11 |
| dougwig | i think there's a gerrit spec about that somewhere. | 16:11 |
| xgerman | lol | 16:11 |
| sbalukoff | Ha! | 16:11 |
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| dougwig | alright, any split comments/feedback/questions? meeting slots on this topic have been pretty quiet, which is either awesome or worrisome. | 16:11 |
| xgerman | we just want it done -) | 16:11 |
| sbalukoff | Actually, I feel like we're in a pretty good place with that spec... | 16:11 |
| blogan | im just interested in getting progress done, path of least resistance at this point | 16:11 |
| johnsom | +1 on done | 16:11 |
| sbalukoff | Let's push hard for consensus. | 16:11 |
| xgerman | I don't think there is much we can do except +1 | 16:12 |
| blogan | i can +1000 | 16:13 |
| dougwig | ok, then please leave some comments or whatnot on the gerrit spec, and let's get this rolling. it'll get an update this morning for the decisions from today's neutron meeting. | 16:13 |
| xgerman | +1000 | 16:13 |
| sballe | mestery: I would like to attend the neutron meetup remote. Anything around taht yet? | 16:13 |
| dougwig | i'll post in channel when it's ready for action again. | 16:13 |
| dougwig | sballe: he mentioned in the meeting this morning that he's working on it. see the beginning of that chat log, in announcements. | 16:13 |
| sbalukoff | sballe: +1 | 16:13 |
| mestery | sballe: We will have remote participation, the plan for people coding is to have an etherpad where people can pick items, and we'll be in-channel on #openstack-neutron | 16:13 |
| mestery | I'll see about Hangouts as well | 16:14 |
| mestery | Though that depends on what Adobe can offer there too :) | 16:14 |
| blogan | they can't photoshop everyone in? | 16:14 |
| dougwig | i can offer a webex if it helps. | 16:14 |
| sballe | dougwig: I know I was there. I just wanted mestery to know that I am interested in attendign even thought I didn;t put my name onthe wiki | 16:14 |
| rm_work | blogan: +1 | 16:14 |
| mestery | sballe: Got it | 16:14 |
| mestery | blogan: lol | 16:14 |
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| dougwig | #topic Open discussion | 16:15 |
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| kobis | I wonder - if vendor code is pushed out of neutron, will the *aas repos include vendor code? | 16:15 |
| blogan | kobis: it will icnlude the vendor drivers | 16:15 |
| dougwig | kobis: that is mentioned in the spec. yes, because we're still trying to grow community | 16:15 |
| sbalukoff | kobis: Yes, according to the latest spec. | 16:15 |
| sbalukoff | Heh! | 16:15 |
| kobis | ok 10x | 16:15 |
| xgerman | yep, we also said so at the summit | 16:15 |
| dougwig | i would expect the long-term to look similar to neutron, though. | 16:16 |
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| xgerman | me, too | 16:16 |
| dougwig | any other topics for today? | 16:16 |
| blogan | yes | 16:16 |
| blogan | neutron lbaas meetup | 16:16 |
| dougwig | #topic neutron lbaas meetup | 16:16 |
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| dougwig | go | 16:16 |
| dougwig | blogan? | 16:17 |
| blogan | does everyone feel it is worth having it separate from an octavia meetup? I'm sure we want octavia to focus on octavia, but just getting everyone's thoughts | 16:17 |
| xgerman | no, we should combine | 16:18 |
| xgerman | dougwig - time for #vote | 16:18 |
| blogan | well we need to get everyone's thoughts on it first | 16:18 |
| sbalukoff | What do we hope to accomplish at the neutron LBaaS meetup? | 16:18 |
| sballe | if we combine will we have another face 2 face in January? LBaaS/Octavia? | 16:18 |
| blogan | neutron lbaas this time aroudn will have a lot to do, especially with the split | 16:18 |
| dougwig | i think there's quite a bit of v2 work left, and having folks in the same room, with enough cores to make a difference, would help a lot. | 16:18 |
| sbalukoff | Ok. | 16:19 |
| dougwig | plus, it needs to be later than december, to give the split time to settle | 16:19 |
| sbalukoff | I agree | 16:19 |
| blogan | i agree with that | 16:19 |
| dougwig | IMO | 16:19 |
| sbalukoff | I'm in favor having it separate | 16:19 |
| sbalukoff | Given those requirements. | 16:19 |
| blogan | however, i worry that having another meetup may cause a low attendance outcome | 16:19 |
| sbalukoff | Or objectives, rather. | 16:19 |
| xgerman | blogan +10 | 16:19 |
| sbalukoff | Well, we likely won't get a second Octavia face to face this cycle then. | 16:20 |
| dougwig | i wouldn't object to an octavia/lbaas meetup in late january. the holidays and the split is just making the december meetup tough. | 16:20 |
| xgerman | also there is the advanced services meetup | 16:20 |
| sballe | and markmcclain will be at the Octavia one. We could use him to do some +2 on LBaaS stuff | 16:20 |
| sbalukoff | As long as people are OK with some folks working on Octavia stuff at the Neutron LBaaS meetup, I'm OK with that. | 16:20 |
| dougwig | it'd need the full 5 days, and we'd want to schedule some of those days for lbaas only, and some for octavia only, IMO. | 16:20 |
| blogan | xgerman: im not sure there will be one now, though I am not sure | 16:21 |
| dougwig | sbalukoff: as long as octavia doesn't prevent v2 from making progress, they're the same teams. | 16:21 |
| sbalukoff | True | 16:21 |
| sballe | dougwig: +1 | 16:21 |
| xgerman | ok, with the family I am waty to be gone two weeks in January | 16:21 |
| mestery | Folks: Any reason not to just have a single meetup for lbaas in december? Why are two needed? | 16:21 |
| * mestery goes back to lurking | 16:21 | |
| sbalukoff | Let's have our employers rent out a conference center for the whole month of January and meet there and work on both. | 16:21 |
| sbalukoff | ;) | 16:21 |
| sballe | sbalukoff: +1 | 16:21 |
| blogan | mestery: the main reason is there is a lot to do on both fronts | 16:22 |
| sbalukoff | Yep. | 16:22 |
| sballe | sbalukoff: thinks this is a good idea. not distractions or meetings | 16:22 |
| dougwig | mestery: because the current december date is holidays for many (me!), and the split won't be done yet. | 16:22 |
| mestery | Ah, got it dougwig and blogan. Just curious | 16:22 |
| sbalukoff | sballe: Unfortunately totally impractical. ;) | 16:22 |
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| sballe | sbalukoff I know | 16:22 |
| blogan | well rackspace can host this meeting if it is determined we want it | 16:22 |
| dougwig | mestery: curiosity will be punished. | 16:22 |
| markmcclain | I'm on the road nearly all of January… so I won't be able to attend either in person/remote | 16:23 |
| mestery | lol | 16:23 |
| sbalukoff | blogan; I'm pretty sure we want it. | 16:23 |
| sbalukoff | Also, Texas is nice in January. | 16:23 |
| xgerman | so is Seattle :-) | 16:23 |
| xgerman | or Boise :-) | 16:23 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: In January? | 16:23 |
| rm_work | seattle is cold and possibly snowy in January :P | 16:23 |
| blogan | is it worth having without mestery and markmcclain there? if we can't get fast +2 eyes? | 16:23 |
| sballe | how about Boston ;-) | 16:23 |
| xgerman | yep, we can go to the slopes and ski | 16:23 |
| mestery | blogan: By then LBaaS will be it's own repo with at least you and dougwig as +2 :) | 16:24 |
| sbalukoff | Haha! | 16:24 |
| rm_work | but if I need to stay in WA longer let me know so I can cancel my return flight :) | 16:24 |
| sbalukoff | mestery: That's very optimistic of you. ;) | 16:24 |
| xgerman | rm_work just move there and start RAX west | 16:24 |
| blogan | mestery: good point, that totally escaped me | 16:24 |
| mestery | lol | 16:24 |
| rm_work | xgerman: RAX West is called the SFO office :) | 16:24 |
| rm_work | … which would be awesome to work out of, I think | 16:25 |
| blogan | okay so are we in agreement that we want one in January? | 16:25 |
| dougwig | alright, where's consensus at on this point? merged or separate? | 16:25 |
| dougwig | ha, jinx | 16:25 |
| xgerman | or shoudl we aim for later in case the plit gets dealyes... | 16:25 |
| blogan | later would be nearing the end of kilo | 16:25 |
| xgerman | but we could make the last big push | 16:26 |
| * dougwig would prefer some soak time. | 16:26 | |
| blogan | but if we have specs approved and mestery and markmcclain are okay with some exceptions to a late spec, then I'd be fine with later | 16:26 |
| dougwig | i'd think the last push should be for making octavia 1.0 be the ref. IMO. | 16:26 |
| dougwig | which implies we need v2 solid earlier. | 16:27 |
| blogan | yep | 16:27 |
| rm_work | oh god, 1.0 by Kilo *and* made the ref for n-lb? | 16:27 |
| rm_work | >_> | 16:27 |
| dougwig | that might too ambitious. :) | 16:27 |
| dougwig | but you've gotta have goals. | 16:27 |
| sbalukoff | Heh! | 16:28 |
| blogan | couldn't 0.5 be the ref impl? | 16:28 |
| rm_work | honestly not sure what I think of Octavia being the ref driver for n-lb still... | 16:28 |
| blogan | adn then it gets upgraded to 1.0 | 16:28 |
| sbalukoff | Big Hairy Audacious Goals? | 16:28 |
| dougwig | blogan: i thought 0.5 wasn't scalable? | 16:28 |
| blogan | its not | 16:28 |
| xgerman | depends on the hardware | 16:28 |
| rm_work | I like the idea of the "reference" driver being something SIMPLE so it can be easily updated when the API changes | 16:28 |
| dougwig | better or worse than the agent-ified haproxy namespace driver? | 16:28 |
| sbalukoff | Also, Neutron LBaaS v1 reference is not scalable. | 16:28 |
| rm_work | Octavia seems a bit complex (and out of tree) | 16:28 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: it is | 16:29 |
| dougwig | it's scalable with the agent on other machines. just not pleasantly. | 16:29 |
| xgerman | let's not get too far off topic | 16:29 |
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| rm_work | IMO leave the namespace driver as the ref <_< | 16:29 |
| dougwig | thank you, back to topic. | 16:29 |
| blogan | well thats antoehr discussion at a later time | 16:29 |
| blogan | back to meetup | 16:29 |
| dougwig | what's the vote syntax? | 16:29 |
| blogan | #startvote | 16:29 |
| openstack | Only the meeting chair may start a vote. | 16:30 |
| xgerman | well, we should find out if the adv services meetup is happening | 16:30 |
| rm_work | I mean, what are we voting on? | 16:30 |
| sbalukoff | .#startvote question? Yes No Maybe | 16:30 |
| rm_work | Just "Yes/No" to "have two meetings"? | 16:30 |
| blogan | xgerman: im almost certain that was going to happen with adv svc was spinning out as one | 16:30 |
| dougwig | i was just going to take the temperature of the room. | 16:30 |
| rm_work | or something more specific | 16:30 |
| dougwig | #startvote Are you ok with two meetups? Yes No Maybe | 16:31 |
| xgerman | ok, and that was split related also -- so we will have two split related meetups in jan | 16:31 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Are you ok with two meetups? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Maybe. | 16:31 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 16:31 |
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| blogan | #vote Yes | 16:31 |
| sbalukoff | #vote Yes | 16:31 |
| rm_work | i am a LITTLE worried about making everyone travel so often | 16:31 |
| dougwig | auto-correct changed meetups to metopes. that is some high end dictionary action. | 16:31 |
| xgerman | #vote Maybe | 16:31 |
| dougwig | #vote yes | 16:31 |
| johnsom | #vote Maybe | 16:31 |
| sballe | #vote yes | 16:31 |
| TrevorV | #vote maybe | 16:31 |
| rm_work | #vote Maybe | 16:31 |
| blogan | switzerland | 16:32 |
| ptoohill | #vote maybe | 16:32 |
| dougwig | good heavens, commit people. :) | 16:32 |
| dougwig | #endvote | 16:32 |
| rm_work | "If I don't make it, tell my wife I said -- Hello." | 16:32 |
| openstack | Voted on "Are you ok with two meetups?" Results are | 16:32 |
| openstack | Maybe (5): xgerman, rm_work, ptoohill, johnsom, TrevorV | 16:32 |
| openstack | Yes (4): dougwig, sballe, sbalukoff, blogan | 16:32 |
| dougwig | blogan: this is your topic. did you get what you needed? | 16:33 |
| blogan | well if that vote is a binding contract | 16:33 |
| sbalukoff | rm_work: Those who don't want to / can't travel can always attend remotely. | 16:33 |
| blogan | which i dont think it is | 16:33 |
| dougwig | it is not | 16:33 |
| rm_work | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ussCHoQttyQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpaQpyU_QiM | 16:33 |
| ptoohill | i guess if its here im fine with it. anywhere else we cant go. and on that note im interested how the remote aspect for the upcoming meetup is going to work | 16:33 |
| blogan | so if we had it in January | 16:33 |
| blogan | does the week of the 19th work for people? | 16:33 |
| sbalukoff | I'm OK with having it in Texas. | 16:34 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: AFAIK, yes. | 16:34 |
| sballe | sballe is checking her calendar | 16:34 |
| sballe | Can we have it in Austin if it is Texas? | 16:35 |
| ptoohill | I would love to have it in Austin | 16:35 |
| rm_work | heh, yeah, me too | 16:35 |
| dougwig | sballe: is HP volunteering space in Austin? | 16:35 |
| johnsom | I think I would only be able to make the first three days the week of the 19th | 16:35 |
| rm_work | though we'd have to start later so we have time to take the shuttle in the morning from SA :P | 16:35 |
| xgerman | we have space everywhere :-) | 16:35 |
| ptoohill | EVERYWHERE | 16:35 |
| jorgem | rm_work: or we could carpool together :) | 16:36 |
| sballe | I know RAX has space in Auston too. But HP we have space too | 16:36 |
| blogan | can it be a week long replay of the hp paris party? | 16:36 |
| dougwig | monday the 19th is MLK day, fyi. | 16:36 |
| TrevorV | I'm not gonna lie, I'm probably not going to travel to Austin daily for that. | 16:36 |
| rm_work | jorgem: gah | 16:36 |
| sbalukoff | Oh... | 16:36 |
| sbalukoff | Yeah, let's avoid the week of the 19th then. | 16:36 |
| dougwig | meetup proposal is 20-22, i think. | 16:36 |
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| blogan | well what about just start on Tuesday the 20th | 16:36 |
| xgerman | I think that week is anyway pretty close to the other meetup | 16:36 |
| ptoohill | I would do anything to get out of SA daily | 16:36 |
| sbalukoff | Have it be a 3-day thing? | 16:37 |
| xgerman | blogan then you only get 4 days | 16:37 |
| sbalukoff | That works. | 16:37 |
| sbalukoff | I can't attend the 23rd either. | 16:37 |
| xgerman | so 36-39 would be better for sbalukoff | 16:37 |
| blogan | most meetups are only 3 days anyway, so people dont ahve to travel on weekends | 16:37 |
| xgerman | 23-29 | 16:37 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: Which other meetup? | 16:37 |
| xgerman | adv services | 16:38 |
| sbalukoff | Aah. | 16:38 |
| blogan | xgerman: i dont think they're having one | 16:38 |
| xgerman | I thought you said they would | 16:38 |
| blogan | when we were going to split out as one yes, but now we're not | 16:38 |
| sbalukoff | If the split entails 4 different repositories, the need for an advanced services meetup starts to make less sense. | 16:38 |
| sballe | I am not available 26-30 I will be in Sunnyvale and Seattle | 16:38 |
| ptoohill | that message should be talked about a bit louder | 16:38 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: indeed | 16:39 |
| blogan | if the toher advanced services want to have a meetup, then they may choose that | 16:39 |
| dougwig | let's go for some closure here. if we don't have consensus on good timing/location here, let's fire up an etherpad. | 16:39 |
| xgerman | dougwig +1 | 16:40 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig +1 | 16:40 |
| sballe | =1 | 16:40 |
| sballe | +1 | 16:40 |
| blogan | ill fire one up | 16:40 |
| dougwig | #action blogan setup lbaas meetup etherpad | 16:41 |
| dougwig | thank you | 16:41 |
| dougwig | #topic Open discussion | 16:41 |
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| sbalukoff | Sweet. | 16:41 |
| dougwig | other topics? | 16:41 |
| xgerman | sure | 16:41 |
| xgerman | just a PSA we founbd that one of the lastest Neutron topics breaks our feature branch | 16:41 |
| blogan | do we need to fix a merge conflict? | 16:41 |
| blogan | or is it a functional break? | 16:42 |
| ajmiller | There is a problem when upgrading the neutron database. | 16:42 |
| ajmiller | I am working on suggesting a patch. | 16:42 |
| dougwig | do we just need another merge from master? | 16:42 |
| blogan | what is the break? | 16:42 |
| dougwig | if so, mestery needs to submit it. | 16:42 |
| ajmiller | Merge from master would probably fix it. There has been a database upgrade on master, and that breaks the neutron upgrade. | 16:43 |
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| blogan | is it just bc another db migration came in? | 16:43 |
| xgerman | yep | 16:43 |
| ajmiller | blogan yes | 16:43 |
| blogan | oh okay well thats expected, if its just an alembic sequence issue | 16:44 |
| ajmiller | yes | 16:44 |
| blogan | im not sure if thats something we always want to merge master for | 16:44 |
| dougwig | ok, i'll ask for another merge. i found out the hard way last time that only someone in the neutron release group can submit the patch. | 16:44 |
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| sbalukoff | Eew. | 16:44 |
| blogan | if we merge master for every new migration, thats a lot of contacting neutron release group to merge | 16:44 |
| xgerman | well, once the split happends | 16:45 |
| sbalukoff | ... | 16:45 |
| dougwig | is the feature branch broken, or just swapping between feature and master on the same install? | 16:45 |
| sbalukoff | There is that. | 16:45 |
| dougwig | because if it's the latter, i agree with blogan. wipe and reset | 16:45 |
| blogan | yeah so why dont we wait until the split is ready, then do one merge | 16:45 |
| rm_work | +1 | 16:45 |
| xgerman | But inquisitive minds want to try out LbaaS v2 | 16:46 |
| xgerman | ... | 16:46 |
| blogan | the feature branch should still work on its own | 16:46 |
| blogan | hopefully inquisitive minds can do a git checkout feature/lbaasv2 and restart? | 16:47 |
| blogan | unless they need some features that are in master as well | 16:47 |
| dougwig | xgerman: use neutron-db-manage to rollback to feature back alembic and then go forward. | 16:47 |
| dougwig | /back/branch | 16:47 |
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| dougwig | i can add instructions for that to the devstack wiki | 16:47 |
| blogan | oh yeah that too | 16:48 |
| blogan | lol | 16:48 |
| xgerman | well, so we decided to not track master with our feature branch? | 16:48 |
| xgerman | Just making sure we are on the same page | 16:48 |
| blogan | xgerman: i think waiting until the split to do one final merge is the best option | 16:48 |
| xgerman | I am ok with that -- I just like it spelled out | 16:48 |
| dougwig | when the branch was created, folks wanted to minimize the number of master merges. if there's something broken between them (which happened with jenkins jobs once), we merge. if it's just diverging migrations, we'll reset the chain for the final merge. | 16:49 |
| dougwig | that was our earlier plan, at least. | 16:49 |
| dougwig | any other issues there, or any other topics for today? | 16:50 |
| xgerman | I am good -- | 16:50 |
| dougwig | alright, thanks folks, and goodbye | 16:51 |
| xgerman | o/ | 16:51 |
| blogan | adios | 16:51 |
| ajmiller | bye | 16:51 |
| TrevorV | o/ | 16:51 |
| dougwig | #endmeeting | 16:51 |
| sballe | BYE | 16:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 2 16:51:34 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_lbaas/2014/neutron_lbaas.2014-12-02-16.00.html | 16:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_lbaas/2014/neutron_lbaas.2014-12-02-16.00.txt | 16:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_lbaas/2014/neutron_lbaas.2014-12-02-16.00.log.html | 16:51 |
| rm_work | whew | 16:51 |
| sbalukoff | Heh! | 16:51 |
| sbalukoff | Dang, not enough time for me to take a nap before the next meeting. :P | 16:52 |
| sbalukoff | (I'm totally getting one after, though.) | 16:52 |
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| dougwig | hello advanced services. | 17:00 |
| blogan | hello | 17:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: blogan: hi there | 17:00 |
| hareeshp | hello | 17:00 |
| dougwig | morning SumitNaiksatam | 17:00 |
| sbalukoff | Howdy, folks! | 17:00 |
| xgerman | o/ | 17:00 |
| banix | hi | 17:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: morning (thanks to neutron IRC had an early start ;-) ) | 17:01 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hareeshp: sbalukoff xgerman banix: hi | 17:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay lets get started | 17:01 |
| pc_m | hi | 17:01 |
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| SridarK | Hi | 17:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting Networking Advanced Services | 17:01 |
| glebo | yo | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 2 17:01:56 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Networking Advanced Services)" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_advanced_services' | 17:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: SridarK glebo: hi | 17:02 |
| johnsom | o/ | 17:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #info https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/AdvancedServices#Agenda | 17:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | copy pasting from the neutron IRC for the benefit who missed it - | 17:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #info SPD is 12-8-2014 and SAD is 12-15-2014 | 17:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #info Kilo-1 is 12-18-2014 | 17:02 |
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| sbalukoff | Could you expand those acronyms please? | 17:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | any other info/announcements people would like to share? (apart from the services’ split discussion, of course) | 17:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Spec Proposal Deadline | 17:03 |
| dougwig | Spec approval deadline, and the first is the submission deadline (not sure on the P) | 17:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Spec Approval Deadline | 17:03 |
| sbalukoff | Thanks! | 17:03 |
| blogan | it'll be a SAD day | 17:04 |
| xgerman | because you spec doesn't make it? | 17:04 |
| sbalukoff | badum-tish! | 17:04 |
| banix | not knowing what that is, probably no | 17:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | blogan: exactly - seemed like SAD had become common neutron lingo | 17:04 |
| banix | sorry; wrong window | 17:04 |
| sunil_ | hello everyone! | 17:05 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | okay next topic - our raison d'être | 17:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Advanced services’ spin out | 17:06 |
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| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: seems Paris has left its impression on u :-) | 17:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: oh good catch! | 17:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Services' split: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136835 | 17:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and there is a somewhat related spec which factors into the extensions’ discussions: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136760 | 17:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | to summarize for those who missed the meeting in the morning | 17:07 |
| dougwig | please note the imminent changes that are coming, based on today's neutron meeting: | 17:07 |
| dougwig | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/5qRvFm1X | 17:07 |
| * glebo yeah, thinks 06:00 is PAINFUL, but was commuting through inches of rain at the time. | 17:08 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: thanks, i was just about to summarize that, seems like you had it prepared ;-) | 17:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | glebo: yeah, commute was pretty painful | 17:08 |
| dougwig | that was my gerrit comment when I did -A just a few ago. :) | 17:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: you mean workflow-a | 17:09 |
| xgerman | neat | 17:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *workflow-1 | 17:09 |
| trinaths1 | Hi | 17:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: those read like executive decisions ;-P | 17:10 |
| dougwig | i realized after hitting submit that i should've put, "from the neutron meeting..." :) | 17:10 |
| mestery | SumitNaiksatam: That's because they were discussed and agreed to in the neutron meeting today | 17:10 |
| mestery | dougwig: ++ | 17:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mestery: yes sure, just pulling dougwig’s leg here | 17:10 |
| mestery | lol | 17:10 |
| dougwig | with both the split and flavors, it's a good thing that i'm secretly a spider. | 17:11 |
| sbalukoff | Wait, are we now getting to accuse dougwig of being a merciless tyrant? | 17:11 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | mestery: glad you could make it to this meeting as well | 17:11 |
| * mestery is omniscient | 17:11 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | sbalukoff: that we thought was already established, no? ;-) | 17:12 |
| glebo | mestery: lol | 17:12 |
| sbalukoff | As long as I get to carry around a pitchfork and torch, I'm happy. | 17:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay, so any thoughts feedback on those points, or anything else in the latest spec that we need discuss today/here? | 17:13 |
| sbalukoff | Aaanyway. | 17:13 |
| xgerman | sbalukoff likes to be the only merciless tyrant in town | 17:13 |
| glebo | sbalukoff: wait, we already passed halloween, no? | 17:13 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: +1 | 17:13 |
| sbalukoff | I feel like the current spec is pretty close to what we need to get progress to happen. | 17:13 |
| xgerman | +1 | 17:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | sbalukoff: okay | 17:14 |
| sbalukoff | As such, if you've got objections, please make specific comments to that effect soon! | 17:14 |
| xgerman | and if not +1 | 17:14 |
| dougwig | the work needs to start next week at the latest, so we need to get things solid. | 17:14 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: +1 | 17:14 |
| xgerman | yep, originally split was aimed for k1 | 17:14 |
| xgerman | and we can still make it | 17:15 |
| dougwig | i don't mind some rework later, but if you've got something major, please don't wait. | 17:15 |
| trinaths1 | I'm new here then, How to propose a spec here? | 17:15 |
| sbalukoff | And make time *now* to review if you haven't done so and feel like you have a horse in this race. | 17:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | trinaths1: hi, same as neutron spec | 17:15 |
| dougwig | trinaths1: our specs are neutron specs | 17:15 |
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| xgerman | there is a wiki somewhere explaining the process | 17:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | is pc_m here? | 17:16 |
| pc_m | yes sir | 17:16 |
| trinaths1 | okay. How will they be pointed to Advanced services? | 17:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | trinaths1: thats not needed, its all one neutron track | 17:17 |
| trinaths1 | okay. | 17:17 |
| trinaths1 | SumitNaiksatam: understood. | 17:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Services’ impact by L3 agent refactoring | 17:17 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | this would impact fwaas and vpnaas | 17:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: you want to summarize where we are at with this? | 17:18 |
| pc_m | sure | 17:18 |
| pc_m | Carl has a BP out for the effort (I think 131535) | 17:18 |
| pc_m | I did a commit for review to start the observer pattern to allow agents to register with L3 agent to get notifications for events. | 17:19 |
| pc_m | 136549 | 17:19 |
| pc_m | Assaf has refined it some, and will do a updated patch that merges his with mine. Will have it tomorrow or Thur I suspect. | 17:19 |
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| pc_m | Currently, we're trying to work out the notifications. | 17:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131535/ (for the spec) | 17:20 |
| pc_m | Seems like there may be some variation as to where notifications will occur. | 17:20 |
| pc_m | Will need help from FW folks to see about where hooks are needed for that agent. | 17:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136549/ (for pc_m’s patch) | 17:21 |
| SridarK | pc_m: i volunteer | 17:21 |
| pc_m | I think Assaf's is #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137668 | 17:21 |
| pc_m | SridarK: thanks! | 17:21 |
| pc_m | We can hook up offline. Looking at router add/delete/update and where agents need to be notified, for agent specific actions. | 17:22 |
| glebo | pc_m: i can also have Gary Duan from our team take a look | 17:22 |
| SridarK | pc_m: there are few places that notifications are needed esp on router stuff | 17:22 |
| SridarK | pc_m: yes exactly | 17:22 |
| pc_m | glebo: super! The more the merrier. | 17:22 |
| pc_m | I think we want to get Assaf's and my commits merged, and then it is a matter of working out the notification points and refine the notification method. | 17:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: so this does not propose to move away from the l3 agent inheriting from the fwaas agent? | 17:23 |
| hareeshp | pc_m: Is is the plan to still go for multiple agents (per service) or service specfic classes somehow loaded by a single agent? | 17:23 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: I think it will split them up. We're trying to tackle it piecemeal. | 17:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: ah ok | 17:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hareeshp: yeah, my earlier question | 17:24 |
| hareeshp | SumitNaiksatam: yes ;) | 17:24 |
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| pc_m | I posted on ML (a few weeks back) some steps Carl and I discussed, and I think Carl has it in his BP. | 17:24 |
| carl_baldwin | SumitNaiksatam: It is proposed to move away from the inheritence for FW. Very soon. | 17:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | carl_baldwin: okay | 17:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: so your patch is the first one to be reviewed in this chain, right? | 17:25 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: Sort of... Assaf's is dependent on mine. There are a few others as well. | 17:25 |
| pc_m | Carl has one to split up the L3 agent into modules. | 17:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ah there is a topic for this: | 17:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bp/restructure-l3-agent,n,z | 17:26 |
| carl_baldwin | As soon as we identify how FW needs to be notified and what callbacks are needed on the l3_agent and router then we should be able to break the inheritence relationship. | 17:26 |
| pc_m | Take a look at the BP first of all, so that we can get closure on carl_baldwin's BP. | 17:26 |
| dougwig | at the end of this discussion, i just want to make sure that my naive assumption that this work exists in parallel to the split is actually true, and we don't have to block on each other. | 17:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | carl_baldwin: pc_m: sounds good | 17:27 |
| SridarK | carl_baldwin: currently it is mostly on the router_interface_add | 17:27 |
| pc_m | dougwig: good question, and concern | 17:27 |
| SridarK | so we should be able to do this with some minimal restructure of the code | 17:28 |
| SridarK | (FW agent code) | 17:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: i would tend to think that this refactoring of the agent has to be accomplished prior to the fwaas and vpnaas split | 17:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so that the respective agents can move with the services when the split happens | 17:28 |
| dougwig | what is the timeline for that? alternately, i'm ok with a temporary circular dependency with the l3 agent | 17:28 |
| dougwig | temporary == never shipped. | 17:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: yeah i agree, if there is a workaround, we should consider that | 17:29 |
| xgerman | also since we are now splitting into 3 repos do we eed to split all at once? | 17:29 |
| pc_m | dougwig: We're hot on it now... not sure how long to tease it all apart. | 17:29 |
| carl_baldwin | dougwig: This is currently our highest priority. The bp just merged yesterday and so we should working on it in earnest. | 17:29 |
| dougwig | we have this, split, rest refactor, and vendor split, all aimed straight at each other. anything we can do to sever dependencies will make the impending management nightmare easier. | 17:30 |
| xgerman | +1 | 17:30 |
| SridharRamaswamy | dougwig: +1 | 17:30 |
| sbalukoff | +1 | 17:31 |
| s3wong | +1 | 17:31 |
| johnsom | +1 | 17:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | agreed, so it might help to get some of these things in first, so that we dont have too many loose ends after the split | 17:31 |
| trinaths1 | +1 | 17:31 |
| pc_m | +1 | 17:31 |
| dougwig | SumitNaiksatam: that is the opposite of severing dependencies. :) | 17:31 |
| trinaths1 | (confused) what does a split mean? | 17:31 |
| * pc_m +1 to dougwig's comment | 17:32 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: not all dependencies are equal | 17:32 |
| dougwig | trinaths1: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136835/ | 17:32 |
| pc_m | So REST refactoring starts next week at the mid-cycle? | 17:32 |
| dougwig | anytime you say "before" or "after", it is a dependency, and adds risk, IMO. | 17:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mestery: if you are still around, is there a timeline we are targeting for the services’ repo split? | 17:33 |
| trinaths1 | dougwig: thanks | 17:33 |
| dougwig | it's next week, unless the rest refactor makes it impossible. | 17:34 |
| xgerman | SumitNaiksatam at the summit we said K1 | 17:34 |
| carl_baldwin | dougwig: Did you have a plan for moving FW out of tree without breaking the inheritence hierarchy? | 17:34 |
| xgerman | I would still aim for that | 17:34 |
| * carl_baldwin has not completely read the bp. Sorry. | 17:34 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | that would help to evaluate if its feasible at all to address any percieved dependenices for the split | 17:34 |
| dougwig | carl_baldwin: yes, but you'll need a bucket handy. | 17:34 |
| pc_m | :) | 17:34 |
| dougwig | carl_baldwin: the short-form would be treating the classes/repos as if they're not separate for the very short-term. | 17:35 |
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| trinaths1 | dougwig: okay. thanks for the clarity. | 17:35 |
| dougwig | then the fw team can refactor to independence on their own timeline. | 17:36 |
| * carl_baldwin wonders where he left that bucket. ;) | 17:36 | |
| dougwig | i did warn you. | 17:36 |
| mestery | SumitNaiksatam: The work will be done next week in SLC | 17:36 |
| carl_baldwin | So, initially, the two repos are co-dependent? | 17:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so the idea would be that neutron would depend on adv services’ repo, and adv services’ repo would depend on neutron? | 17:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | carl_baldwin: yeah, you summarized it better :-) | 17:37 |
| dougwig | carl_baldwin: until the l3 refactor is done, yes. that's the only circular link that i know of. | 17:37 |
| carl_baldwin | dougwig: I think that is fine for the (very) short term but I’ll be looking again for the bucket if Kilo ships like that. | 17:37 |
| dougwig | i don't think we can allow kilo to ship like that. | 17:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i guess we would need the co-dependency would be needed regardless of the L3 agent dependency issue | 17:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | * i guess the co-dependency would be needed regardless of the L3 agent dependency issue | 17:38 |
| dougwig | only for the upgrade scenario. the plan is to have a hacking rule to prevent any other circular usages. | 17:38 |
| dougwig | with an exception for l3 for now | 17:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: okay | 17:39 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | so if the spin out is planned for the next week, i am guessing that is probably too short a time frame to achieve the l3 agent refactoring | 17:40 |
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| carl_baldwin | dougwig: okay. Does it mean more complexity in the build / test environment to support this co-dependent thing? | 17:40 |
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| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: yup | 17:40 |
| dougwig | no. the circular link is already there for the upgrade scenarios. it just means abusing it slightly for fun and profit. | 17:40 |
| dougwig | the only extra work is the exception to the new hacking rule | 17:40 |
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| carl_baldwin | dougwig: okay. I’m okay going forward with that. We can rebase our work to react to it. | 17:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | perhaps we can set the services’ agents (fwaas/vpnaas) as a target for K2, that way we are more or less guaranteed to get it done in Kilo | 17:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | if it lands earlier, great, but we can proceed with the split regardless | 17:43 |
| dougwig | i'll include this refactor and breaking this link in the split timeline. for K2 as SumitNaiksatam suggests? | 17:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: i think that will be good to call out | 17:43 |
| xgerman | +1 | 17:43 |
| dougwig | will do. | 17:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: at least it identifies what we need to follow up on after the split as an immediate requirement | 17:44 |
| dougwig | look for a spec with a detailed roadmap by lunchtime. | 17:44 |
| carl_baldwin | SumitNaiksatam: I’d like to target an initial break out of the inheritence hierarchy for a couple weeks from now. I’m not sure how much work will be needed to get to where you would like the service agents to be. | 17:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: thanks | 17:44 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | carl_baldwin: agreed, i think, like SridarK mentioned, on the fwaas side we dont anticipate it to be as much | 17:44 |
| carl_baldwin | I’m focused on detangling the L3 agent first. Service agents second. | 17:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | perhaps pc_m can talk to for the vpn side of things | 17:44 |
| carl_baldwin | SumitNaiksatam: dougwig: +1 | 17:44 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: carl_baldwin: yes should not be too bad on FW | 17:45 |
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| SridarK | I have probab jinxed it by saying that. :-) | 17:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay we have 15 mins left, and we haven’t ye reached “flavors” :-) | 17:45 |
| SridharRamaswamy | SumitNaiksatam: pc_m: i can help out if any vpn work spills over | 17:45 |
| pc_m | I don't think there is too much on VPN. only a handful of notifications. | 17:45 |
| sbalukoff | Heh! | 17:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridharRamaswamy: pc_m: okay thanks | 17:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Flavors | 17:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Flavors (Meeting topic: Networking Advanced Services)" | 17:46 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102723 | 17:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the spec has been repurposed from Juno ^^^ | 17:46 |
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| sbalukoff | It's back from the grave! | 17:46 |
| dougwig | and it wants your brains | 17:46 |
| * sbalukoff prepares his pitchfork and torch again | 17:46 | |
| dougwig | err, eyes. | 17:46 |
| dougwig | i meant eyes. | 17:46 |
| sbalukoff | Yes, eyes. | 17:46 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: thanks for resurrecting it in time for the SPD | 17:47 |
| johnsom | Mmmm, the flavor... | 17:47 |
| dougwig | it's roughly similar to mark's spec from juno. did anyone have major issues with that one? | 17:47 |
| dougwig | and by roughly, i mean almost entirely identical. | 17:47 |
| xgerman | I loved it@@ | 17:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | not to rat hole into names, but i believe there were some suggestions to drop the use of “flavor” terminology in general in OpenStack | 17:47 |
| dougwig | do we have a good alternative? | 17:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | if those still persist, perhpas they will show up early in the review | 17:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: not sure, i was just trying to look up the threads that i recall reading a week or so back | 17:48 |
| sbalukoff | If we want this approved before the SAD date, those reviews / objections better come quick! | 17:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | sbalukoff: agree | 17:49 |
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| dougwig | sbalukoff: +100 | 17:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: will look up and post if i can dig it out | 17:49 |
| dougwig | SumitNaiksatam: thanks | 17:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anything more of “flavors”? | 17:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | not sure if people had a chance to read it since it was resurrected | 17:50 |
| sbalukoff | Well, they should take the opportunity now. :) | 17:50 |
| * pc_m unfortunately not yet | 17:50 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok moving on | 17:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Open Discussion (and any FWaaS/LBaaS/VPNaaS updates) | 17:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (and any FWaaS/LBaaS/VPNaaS updates) (Meeting topic: Networking Advanced Services)" | 17:51 | |
| dougwig | for lbaas updates, scroll up one hour to the meeting minutes. :) | 17:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: :-) | 17:51 |
| sbalukoff | Haha | 17:51 |
| trinaths1 | :) | 17:51 |
| sunil_ | quick admin question: do we have a separate mailing list for advanced services? | 17:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | sunil_: not really | 17:51 |
| trinaths1 | SumitNaiksatam: When can I propose the FW Spec for K? | 17:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | sunil_: in fact there isnt one for neutron either | 17:52 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: FWaaS putting together spec for FW insertion on router - should have it out by tomorrow | 17:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | trinaths1: you can and should before SPD (dec 8th) | 17:52 |
| SridharRamaswamy | my understanding is the BPs on the flight need to be reproposed against advanced services spec repo ? Is this correct ? | 17:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridharRamaswamy: there isnt a separate repo | 17:52 |
| xgerman | there is only one spec repo | 17:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay, just to clarify for everyone’s benefit - | 17:52 |
| dougwig | SridharRamaswamy: no, only neutron-specs, and only re-propose if it was from juno and needs to be for kilo | 17:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | if you need propose a spec, please propose a spec in Neutron Specs, nothing has changed | 17:53 |
| trinaths1 | SumitNaiksatam: Okay, Here is my spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126187/ | 17:53 |
| glebo | re: FW insertion… | 17:53 |
| glebo | how are we doing on the use cases? | 17:53 |
| glebo | I've lost track since I went on TG break | 17:53 |
| trinaths1 | SumitNaiksatam: please consider it for K. | 17:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | if you need to send an email regarding advanced services, you send the email to the -dev ML, and prefix with: | 17:53 |
| SridharRamaswamy | SumitNaiksatam: okay, I've a vpn spec already in neutron-spec/kilo #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136693/ | 17:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | [Neutron][advanced-services] or [Neutron][LBaaS] or [Neutron][FWaaS] or [Neutron][VPNaaS] | 17:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | trinaths1: SridharRamaswamy: great | 17:54 |
| glebo | SridarK: I'll keep my eyes open for the insertion on router spec | 17:54 |
| trinaths1 | SumitNaiksatam: :) reviews bless the specs.. | 17:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | on the fwaas side, SridarK will be posting a new spec for the insertion | 17:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | glebo: ^^^ | 17:54 |
| trinaths1 | * reviewers | 17:54 |
| SridharRamaswamy | dougwig: this is a new spec for Kilo | 17:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | glebo: we sill need the use cases :-) | 17:55 |
| SridarK | glebo: yes have sent a reminder to FW folks on that | 17:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: SridharRamaswamy: anything you would like to add for VPNaaS that is relevant to the rest of the adv services’ team here? | 17:55 |
| pc_m | nothing from me. | 17:55 |
| SridharRamaswamy | nothing from me, waiting for all the refactors to fly in :) | 17:56 |
| * pc_m still trying to get unburied from vacation and 4 days of no internet | 17:56 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | altighty, if nothing else, we can call it a wrap and take back 4 mins! | 17:56 |
| pc_m | who hoo | 17:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks all for joining! | 17:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye | 17:56 |
| trinaths1 | bye all | 17:56 |
| SridarK | bye | 17:56 |
| dougwig | bye | 17:56 |
| SridharRamaswamy | bye all | 17:56 |
| pc_m | bye | 17:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 17:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:56 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 2 17:56:41 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_advanced_services/2014/networking_advanced_services.2014-12-02-17.01.html | 17:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_advanced_services/2014/networking_advanced_services.2014-12-02-17.01.txt | 17:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_advanced_services/2014/networking_advanced_services.2014-12-02-17.01.log.html | 17:56 |
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| glebo | SridarK: SumitNaiksatam: hmmm…. brian gil-torres and I defined them all a few weeks back | 17:56 |
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| glebo | I'll circle back w/ him re: write up logistics | 17:57 |
| SridarK | glebo: did u send it out ? | 17:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | glebo: yes please | 17:57 |
| SridarK | glebo: catch up on email | 17:57 |
| glebo | thought he was taking first crack at text, but maybe I misunderstood. I'll ping him now and reply on ML | 17:57 |
| * glebo really | 17:57 | |
| SridarK | glebo: ok cool | 17:57 |
| * glebo really needs to catch up on email. ha ha | 17:57 | |
| glebo | ttys | 17:58 |
| SridarK | glebo: i have a thread going u can check and respond on that pls | 17:58 |
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