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| gibi | #startmeeting nova | 16:00 |
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| opendevmeet | Meeting started Tue Jun 8 16:00:17 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 16:00 |
| bauzas | \o | 16:00 |
| gibi | o/ | 16:00 |
| elodilles | o/ | 16:00 |
| * kashyap waves | 16:00 | |
| gmann | o/ | 16:01 |
| gibi | I'm just back from a long weekend so I might not be up to date with things | 16:02 |
| gibi | anyhow | 16:02 |
| gibi | lets get started | 16:02 |
| gibi | I do a bit of resuffle for todays agenda | 16:02 |
| gibi | as kashyap has a topic but he needs to leave early | 16:03 |
| gibi | (kashyap) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/add-bochs-display-device | 16:03 |
| gibi | kashyap: are you looking for bp approval? | 16:03 |
| kashyap | gibi: Hi | 16:03 |
| kashyap | gibi: Yeah, that too | 16:03 |
| kashyap | It's fairly mechanical; and the rationale is: the QEMU folks suggest this as a more effecive alternative to 'qxl' (one of the other display devs) in the long term | 16:05 |
| gibi | so it is a new value for an existing flavor extra_spec and image meta? | 16:06 |
| kashyap | gibi: Yep; mostly for image meta | 16:06 |
| bauzas | uupgrade impact, maybe ? | 16:07 |
| kashyap | gibi: Here's the WIP patch: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/794796 | 16:07 |
| bauzas | what happens for existing instances ? | 16:07 |
| gibi | bauzas: I think we still support all the existing display devices | 16:07 |
| kashyap | bauzas: What gibi said | 16:08 |
| stephenfin | o/ | 16:08 |
| gibi | bauzas: so old instances use whathever they was booted with | 16:08 |
| bauzas | ok, so we are not changing the default value ? | 16:08 |
| kashyap | We're not deprecating any existing devices upstream | 16:08 |
| kashyap | bauzas: No, we're not :) | 16:08 |
| bauzas | ack | 16:08 |
| kashyap | bauzas: Simply making another option that is safer and simpler possible. | 16:08 |
| gibi | as of upgrade, kashyap do you need any changes on the compute service? | 16:08 |
| bauzas | so it's just a new option then | 16:08 |
| kashyap | gibi: No; I don't see any for that. It's simply a mechanical yet-another-possible-option | 16:09 |
| bauzas | and then just a documentation question | 16:09 |
| gibi | as far as I see the WIP patch does not change the compute manager or the virt driver | 16:09 |
| kashyap | (Yes, docs; of course) | 16:09 |
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| gibi | kashyap: cool | 16:09 |
| kashyap | gibi: Yep; you notice it well :) | 16:09 |
| bauzas | okay, so it looks to me a non-spec BP | 16:09 |
| gibi | so the old computes will support the new option out of the box | 16:09 |
| gibi | that is cool | 16:09 |
| bauzas | yup | 16:09 |
| gibi | any objection to to approve this as a specless bp? | 16:10 |
| kashyap | (We satisfy thea min_required_libvirt version too -- the current in-tree version is above what's required. So we're good there too.) | 16:10 |
| * dansmith stumbles in late | 16:10 | |
| * gibi lets stephenfin and dansmith to read back and possibly object against the bp approval | 16:11 | |
| stephenfin | no issues from me - I've already started reviewing the patches :) | 16:11 |
| dansmith | for the bochs display? | 16:11 |
| gibi | dansmith: yes | 16:11 |
| gibi | stephenfin: ack | 16:11 |
| dansmith | does it not require a new console proxy? | 16:11 |
| dansmith | or is this just guest-facing? | 16:11 |
| dansmith | ah, it's a guest device, I see | 16:12 |
| dansmith | yeah, no objection | 16:12 |
| gibi | cool | 16:12 |
| gibi | then I will approve the bp after the meeting | 16:12 |
| gibi | kashyap: is that all about this topic? | 16:13 |
| kashyap | gibi: That's all on it | 16:13 |
| gibi | kashyap: thanks | 16:13 |
| gibi | then lets go back to the normal agenda | 16:13 |
| gibi | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | 16:13 |
| gibi | no critical bugs | 16:13 |
| kashyap | dansmith: Yes, you parsed it right | 16:13 |
| gibi | 10 new untriage bugs (+1 since the last meeting) | 16:14 |
| gibi | I guess we have limited inflow as summer hits | 16:14 |
| gibi | any specific bugs we need to talk about today? | 16:14 |
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| gibi | #topic Gate status | 16:16 |
| gibi | placement periodic jobs are green | 16:16 |
| gibi | as I was on PTO in the last two days I'm not up to date about the gate status | 16:16 |
| gibi | is there any gate issue? | 16:16 |
| dansmith | there was a stable one, | 16:17 |
| dansmith | I think melwitt is on it tho | 16:17 |
| bauzas | yup | 16:17 |
| gibi | is it the one where we install too new Ceph version on stable? | 16:18 |
| elodilles | yes (and i linked it in the stable summary :)) | 16:18 |
| gibi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-June/022900.html | 16:18 |
| gibi | cool | 16:18 |
| gibi | anything else about the gate? | 16:18 |
| gibi | #topic Release Planning | 16:20 |
| gibi | Milestone 2 is 15 of July | 16:20 |
| gibi | we will freeze our Xena specs at that point | 16:20 |
| gibi | I will propose a spec review day a week before that | 16:20 |
| bauzas | lgtm | 16:21 |
| gibi | anything else about the release or other deadlines? | 16:21 |
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| gibi | #topic Stable Branches | 16:22 |
| gibi | victoria, ussuri gate is broken due to nova-grenade-multinode job failure ( fix: https://review.opendev.org/q/I02b2b851a74f24816d2f782a66d94de81ee527b0 ) | 16:22 |
| gibi | wallaby, train..pike should be OK | 16:22 |
| gibi | EOM from elodilles | 16:22 |
| gibi | anything else on stable? | 16:23 |
| elodilles | nothing else from me | 16:23 |
| gibi | elodilles: thanks for the summary | 16:23 |
| elodilles | np | 16:23 |
| gibi | #topic Sub/related team Highlights | 16:24 |
| gibi | Libvirt (bauzas) | 16:24 |
| bauzas | nothing to report, EOM from bauzas :-) | 16:24 |
| gibi | :) | 16:24 |
| gibi | #topic Open discussion | 16:24 |
| gibi | we agree to re-discuss the topic of moving this meeting to the the #openstack-nova channel | 16:25 |
| dansmith | yes please | 16:25 |
| gmann | yeah | 16:25 |
| sean-k-mooney | im fine with trying it and i would not have been as late if it was there | 16:25 |
| dansmith | note no traffic in -nova since the meeting started :) | 16:26 |
| gmann | yeah I was typing the same :) | 16:26 |
| gibi | I'm OK to give it a try | 16:26 |
| bauzas | well, sometimes we discuss in the -nova channel while we have a meeting | 16:27 |
| gibi | we did the Asia friendly office hours last Thursday on nova | 16:27 |
| gibi | and it worked | 16:27 |
| gmann | fyi, neutron also moving to neutron channel | 16:27 |
| bauzas | but we could ask people to discuss in -dev if they want | 16:27 |
| gibi | bauzas: true about side discussions, but I think it is even beneficial to do that _after_ the meeting | 16:27 |
| dansmith | or wait a few minutes | 16:27 |
| gmann | bauzas: or we can ask them to wait to finish the meeting or so | 16:27 |
| gibi | :) | 16:27 |
| gmann | we do same in QA. | 16:28 |
| dansmith | especially if they don't realize there is a meeting because it's in another channel, | 16:28 |
| dansmith | and then leave before the rest of the team is finished | 16:28 |
| sean-k-mooney | ya if a side discusion betwen people in the meeting we can also just wait | 16:28 |
| bauzas | gmann: well, sure, unless folks have a time around 7pm after the meeting ;) | 16:28 |
| bauzas | but, meh | 16:29 |
| gibi | OK then lets try it. See if it works. | 16:29 |
| gibi | if not then we can switch back | 16:29 |
| gmann | +1 | 16:30 |
| gibi | please feel free to approach me with feedback publicly or privately in the future about this | 16:30 |
| gibi | I will update the wiki and the eavesdrop page with the information after this meeting | 16:30 |
| gibi | and I will drop a mail to the ML | 16:31 |
| gibi | any other topic for today? | 16:31 |
| tosky | totally unrelated: would anyone complain if I backported https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/741603/ (available since victoria) to ussuri and earlier release? Just to remove a few not used legacy jobs | 16:31 |
| gibi | tosky: no objection from me | 16:32 |
| sean-k-mooney | from experimenatl no concern form me | 16:32 |
| tosky | thanks! I will propose the patches | 16:32 |
| gmann | yeah, ok for me too | 16:32 |
| gibi | tosky: thanks | 16:32 |
| elodilles | neither from me, since it's experimental | 16:32 |
| sean-k-mooney | whould we do a review of what in that in general | 16:32 |
| gibi | sean-k-mooney: we can do that but honestly if nobody tried to fix them so far then I guess we dont need them | 16:33 |
| sean-k-mooney | tempest-pg-full is that postgress | 16:33 |
| elodilles | (this ran last in 2020: https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/builds?job_name=legacy-grenade-dsvm-neutron-multinode-zero-downtime ) | 16:33 |
| gibi | sean-k-mooney: the patch only removes legacy-grenade-dsvm-neutron-multinode-zero-downtime and legacy-tempest-dsvm-nova-libvirt-kvm-apr | 16:35 |
| sean-k-mooney | oh i know | 16:35 |
| sean-k-mooney | i was just lookign to see if there was anything on master we shoudl remove | 16:35 |
| gibi | sean-k-mooney: oh you mean review what remains | 16:35 |
| sean-k-mooney | or graduate | 16:35 |
| sean-k-mooney | ya | 16:35 |
| gibi | sean-k-mooney: yeah I guess that make sense | 16:36 |
| sean-k-mooney | i tend to avoid running experimatal beacuse of how much stuff is in it | 16:36 |
| sean-k-mooney | normally i dont need to but its proably good to prune it form time to time | 16:36 |
| gmann | this we can remvoe for sure as devstack does not support opensuse anymore 'tempest-full-py3-opensuse15' | 16:36 |
| gmann | but yes, cleanup can be done for more jobs | 16:37 |
| gibi | sean-k-mooney, gmann: cool. if you find others to be removed then feel free to add me to the review | 16:37 |
| gmann | sure | 16:37 |
| sean-k-mooney | well likely a new review right | 16:37 |
| gibi | sean-k-mooney: yes please | 16:37 |
| gibi | any other topic for today? | 16:38 |
| gibi | then thanks for joining today. | 16:40 |
| gibi | o/ | 16:40 |
| gibi | #endmeeting | 16:40 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Tue Jun 8 16:40:22 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:40 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2021/nova.2021-06-08-16.00.html | 16:40 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2021/nova.2021-06-08-16.00.txt | 16:40 |
| opendevmeet | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2021/nova.2021-06-08-16.00.log.html | 16:40 |
| bauzas | \o | 16:40 |
| bauzas | and thanks gibi | 16:40 |
| elodilles | o/ | 16:40 |
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